WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Phobos Rising 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:11.280 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.520 My name is Robert Land, and I'm Joe McCormick, and 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 it's Monday. Of course it is time for listener mail. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.800 I don't know if I have any anything interesting at 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:21.400 all to say at the beginning of this one, except 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.840 should we just jump right into the moons of Mars. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:32.080 Let's do it right into the arms of Mars. Okay, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.520 do you mind if I do this? First message from Eric, 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.400 go for it, Eric says, Hi, Joe and Robert and 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.360 producer Seth loved the episodes on Phobos and Demos. I 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.839 had a couple of things I wanted to mention. I 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.080 might have missed it, but I didn't hear you mentioned 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.680 that Phobos orbits so close to Mars that it appears 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.440 to travel backwards, meaning that it rises in mars western 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.480 sky and sets in the east. This is because it 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.760 is lower than area synchronous orbit, or an orbital altitude 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.920 at which a satellite would complete one orbit per one 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.800 rotation of the planet. Demos is above ario stationary orbit, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.800 so it rises in the east like the Sun, but 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.959 its orbit is low enough that if it rose at sunset, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.440 it would set at about midnight rather than close to dawn. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.520 Earth's moon has a similar motion, but it only moves 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.520 about thirteen degrees per day relative to the stars. You 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.800 mentioned that Phobos has gravity, so you would still fall 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.400 down if you jumped. While this is true, it's incomplete. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.080 A typical jump speed is about three meters per second 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.119 or about five ft per second, which means that an 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.759 equivalent jump on Phobos would get you to a height 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.560 of about nine hundred meters or three thousand feet. The 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.040 escape velocity of Phobos is eleven meters per second, which 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.320 is quite a bit more than your typical jump speed 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.320 of between two and four meters per second. That said, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.480 a high jumper could get above two kilometers, and a 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.240 pole alter could almost certainly reach escape velocity. Wow. That's interesting, though, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.920 I wonder if that's calculating pull vaulter speed, UH vertical 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.160 speed or or horizontal speed. I'm not sure, but anyway, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.480 Eric goes on Demos is another story. It's escape velocity 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.240 is two point five meters per second, which is definitely 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.040 possible for anyone in reasonably good physical shape. So if 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.880 you landed there on demos, you would probably want to 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.040 either wait yourself down or tether yourself if you go 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.840 out on a space walk. Note that my numbers don't 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.200 take into account the fact that the force of gravity 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.240 decreases as you get further away from the surface, or 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.400 the dramatic changes in gravity due to the extreme variation 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.320 in terrain height, which on Phobos varies from zero point 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.360 four percent to zero point nine percent of Earth gravity 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.720 at the highest and lowest points, respectively. Anyways, just some 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.560 things I find fascinating about the Martian moons. Thanks for 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.040 the great episode and keep up the good work. Eric. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.120 Oh that's excellent. Thank you Eric for writing in with that. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.239 I I know the backwards uh nature of Phobos. I 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.400 know that came up in the research, and for some 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.000 reason or another I ended up not putting it in. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.799 I think I just maybe got too distracted by the 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.760 other weird things about it. But but yes, this is 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.920 very much the case. Yeah, awesome email, Eric. Thank you 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:25.160 love stuff like this. All right, what do we have next? 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.560 What does the mail bot Carney have for us? Okay, well, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.360 this next one is very short, so maybe I'll do 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.000 this one too and then let you take over after that. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.480 So this one is from Brian, and this is responding 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.000 to the part in our Phobos and Demos part one 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.720 where we talked about the conspiracy theory guy Alex Jones 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.160 claiming in an interview that Buzz Aldrin, the astronaut the 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.680 Apollo Love an astronaut who's been to the Moon, that 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.840 Aldrin had admitted to him that the Phobos monolith, this 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.880 big boulder on the surface of Phobos, was the work 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.880 of Aliens and that it had something to do with 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.040 Egypt and all this stuff. Uh. And I was like, what, 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.520 I don't believe buzz Aldrin said that. So I looked 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.200 it up and in the interview that he was referring 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.120 to the claim he attributed to Aldrin was actually something 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.119 older and said to make fun of, like he said 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.080 it as a joke and then explicitly disavowed it. He 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.640 was like laughing and said, obviously I don't believe that. Uh. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.680 So Brian is responding to that, and Brian says, I 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.120 couldn't help but be reminded of how poorly text captures conversation, 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.359 either by accident or by ill intent, depending on the interpreter. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.359 The best popular example is my cousin Vinny and Ralph 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.440 Maccio's character being interviewed by the police. Rather than repeat 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.440 the issue, here is the video and Brian attaches a 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.640 link to this scene from My Cousin Vinny, Rob, Do 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.400 you do you know this movie? You know the scene? 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.880 I do not. I've I've never seen My Cousin Vinny 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.400 and did vaguely aware of it because of you know, 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.599 though it's supposed to be good, has a good performance 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.679 as good actors in it. Yeah, this is a classic 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.039 like legal comedy, I guess it's also it's like a 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.440 weird like it's a fish out of water movie. So 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.960 it's got Joe Pesci playing this tough guy from Brooklyn 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.560 who happens to be the cousin of a kid played 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.599 by Ralph Maccio who gets uh who gets falsely accused 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.520 of murder in a small town in Alabama while he's 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.880 on the way to the beach. And so there's a 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.600 scene in the movie where Ralph Maccio and his friend 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.560 have just been driving along on the highway and they 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.080 get pulled over by police and they end up being 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.440 interrogated by police for a murder, but they don't realize 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.039 that that's why they're they've been captured. They think that 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.920 they've been captured because one of them accidentally shoplifted a 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.920 can of tuna, and so because they think they're they're 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.960 on account of the tuna, they're all they're all just 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.960 saying like, yeah, we'll just admit to it. It's fine, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.839 We're sorry, we did it. Sorry. I guess it's taking 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.280 too long to explain anyway. The the sheriff eventually asks them, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.320 so when did you shoot the clerk, and Ralph Machio responds, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:56.320 I shot the clerk. I shot the clerk. Uh with incredulity. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.640 But then the transcript of that interview is read back 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.919 and ward with him just repeatedly admitting that he shot 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.919 the clerk. And I think that's what Brian is getting 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.080 at here. Okay, I guess. Well, like I said, I've 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.520 never seen it, but but I am familiar with it 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.680 because of course Fred Gwynn is in it. Hermann Judge, 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.560 I think. But yeah, he was of course Herman Munster 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:22.320 and he played Jed Crandell in the Pet Cemetery that Road. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.520 he was. Arguably I think he was. He was maybe 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.960 the best part about that movie, Like he gave a 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.359 really solid performance. Yes, and in my cousin Vinny, he 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.680 plays a very very uh stiff Alabama judge who does 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:39.919 not take kindly to any any Brooklyn nonsense. But anyway, Brian, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.800 I mean, so, if you were to look at a 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.240 transcript of what buzz Aldrin said, I mean, even in 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.360 the transcript, it would be clear because he would say, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.040 I don't He says, I don't believe that. But if 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.520 you listen to it, it's even clearer because he's like 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.440 laughing when he's saying the thing that is attributed to him. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.840 I mean, no, nobody genuinely listening to this could think 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.880 that he literally meant, yes, that the Aliens were practicing 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.280 building a pyramid on the moon Phobos. That's obviously not 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.560 what he meant to be, and it's clear through what 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.760 he says later, but it's also clear in the tone. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.080 All Right, here's a short message from Olydia. Olydia writes, uh, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.000 more moons. Love the podcast and definitely interested in more 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:28.239 space exploration. Thanks for the introduction to the Expanse. I mean, okay, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.520 we we we we must have sent more moons. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.480 And indeed the Expanse continues to be a fun series. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.600 I think they have, like the TV adaptation. I think 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.600 they have maybe one more season coming out, maybe two. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.000 I don't know. It's and then it's one of those 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.520 that I think it could potentially be picked up by 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.040 somebody else. Uh. And of course they're There are a 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.760 number of books out there, and the books are good too. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.600 I read the first one, and um, and my wife's 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:58.960 been reading on him this summer. All right. This next 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.680 message is about owns in Wyoming. I think this is 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 a response to an episode where we asked whether we 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.640 had any listeners in the very sparsely populated U S 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.920 state of Wyoming, and we heard from Brandon. Brandon is 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.840 not the only Wyoming eight what what do you call him? 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.480 Wyominger's not the only one to respond, but Brandon says, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.600 I exist. During your episode about bones, you mentioned Wyoming, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.800 and surely I am not the only avid listener to 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.240 your podcast, but I most certainly do exist. In the 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.280 interest of full transparency, there are much better places for 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.200 you to come in Wyoming than Uh. Brandon says that structure. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.280 I think we were talking about a house made out 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.400 of bones that's somewhere in Wyoming, or it's made with 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:44.360 rocks that contained fossils to that extent. Yes, Brandon says, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.040 I have seen it myself talking about this house, and 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:51.040 you're gonna have a hard time setting up. Wait, this 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.560 is referring. I think we said we might do a 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.360 live show there. Anyway, Brandon says, the Medicine Bow area 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.400 itself though it's worth a visit a lot of Native 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.160 American his story there and you can actually see very 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.040 close and actual medicine wheel. Brandon, Well, I'm still that 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.040 he did. You know, Brandon still did not talk me 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.120 out of it, because this still sounds like a great 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.199 place to record. We'll go there. It'll be difficult to 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.800 set up. We won't tell anybody about it, so it'll 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.600 just be us, uh and and then we're done, and 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.040 you'll never know if we were actually there, if we're lying. Yeah, yeah, no, no, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.800 we would actually go there, okay, but we just we 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.360 wouldn't tell anybody, or maybe you know, we'd we'd let 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.280 we let Brandon know. Then Brandon could could watch like 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.160 through the window, I can't remember it has windows, or 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.640 not sign it. So we let Carney press his hands 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:41.800 into the wet cement and signed his name. All right, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.920 here is a bit of a listener mail. This is 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.240 from mars uh, someone who identifies as Mars. I guess 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:49.800 so Mars is their name, Where Mars is the name 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.920 of of a god, people can be called Mars. To 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.960 go for it, they write, Hello, Robert and Joe. I 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.880 have happily added stuff to blow your mind to my 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.320 listening list since the beginning of COVID and check off 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.720 most episode except I'm sad to confess I avoid Weird 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.840 House Cinema for the sole reason that my current viewing 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.840 list is longer than my life expectancy and I don't 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:12.720 want to add anymore. Must seas fair enough, um, they continue. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.080 I make my living in the aviation industry and have 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.800 been watching the evolution of drones closely, not often with excitement. However, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.400 this one really got me interested. The smell o coopter. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.760 I'm completely in awe of this type of development. See 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.200 and then they included a link. Although does this bring 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.079 us closer to the singularity anyway? I love the show 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.440 and love the rabbit holes I can get sent down. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.439 Keep up the great work, Mars, so I followed through 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.439 to this link. So this is a link to an 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.240 article on the web page for the American Society of 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.120 Mechanical Engineers the a s m E. And the the 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:51.440 article is called an Autonomous Drone Searches with Smell from 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.040 April by Michael Abrams, and so yeah, it describes this 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:00.120 tiny autonomous aerial vehicle that is guided by smells that 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.240 was designed by researchers who were like, hey, you know, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.080 are our cars are starting to sort of see based 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.440 on light and our phones are listening, right, so so 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.960 why not add more senses to robots? And so they 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.199 tried to make this um old factorial lee sensitive if 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.679 that's the word robot, that is based on the olfactory 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.040 anatomy of moths. I'll just quote from Abraham's article here. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.440 Moths are some of the most sensitive chemical sensors of 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.240 the insects. Thanks to some two odd million years of refinement, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.760 they can find flowers or mates miles away. They're also 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.680 easy to breed and handle. The men Duca sex to 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.120 hawk moths used by the researchers are palm sized with 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.120 antennae that are roughly toothpick in diameter. The months were 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.440 anesthetized in a refrigerator before researchers detached the antennae, which 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.920 stays biologically and chemically active for four hours. Researchers connected 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.160 the antennae to a circuit board with tiny wires placed 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.440 at either end. They attached the antennae sensor to an 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.760 inexpensive off the shelf quad copter to create the device. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.360 When the antenna picks up a scent, it sends an 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.920 electrical signal to the circuit board that directs the drone 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.439 according to a simple algorithm. This is this is this 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.360 is dark, this is weird. It goes to places I 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.560 didn't expect. The smellicopter. Yeah, it has a cute name, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.480 though I did not think we were going to get 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.840 like a bio borg thing here. Uh now I'm wondering. Okay, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.360 so there's gonna be like the drug dogs of the future, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.559 Like you just release these over a city and they 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.800 like sniff out everybody, every house that has cannabis in it. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.240 But but the author here claims they cite at least 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.520 one idea of how this could be used, which is 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.800 to locate disaster survivors in a disaster zone. So if 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.480 it's actually used for that, that sounds cool. Yeah yeah, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.960 but yeah, certainly nefarious uses for it. Less ethical uses 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.280 for it come to mind. Uh. The The author here 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.160 also says that it could be used to pinpoint chemical 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.960 leaks or to find the source of greenhouse gases. So okay, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.920 but anyway, Mars, Yeah, this this is very strange, so 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:15.400 so thanks for sending this our way. All right. Our 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.400 next bit of listener mail is one we meant to record. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.880 I actually did record for last week's listener mail, but 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.480 then we held it back. Yeah. This was from one 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.920 of the many Dans that wrote to us last week. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.280 We originally recorded a response to it, but this message 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.880 mentions the Digital Underground, the hip hop group which we 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.320 discussed in our response. And then right after we recorded 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.920 the episode, but before it was released, we saw news 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.680 on the Internet about the death of Gregory Jacobs, also 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.559 known as shock G of the Digital Underground. We thought 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.319 it'd be kind of weird to release our talking about 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.680 that without addressing the fact that he had passed away, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.080 so we wanted to rerecord it for today. All right. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.800 This one comes to us from Dan and says Hello, Robert, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.560 Joe and Seth as an Avid. Stuff to blow your 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.000 mind list nerve for years, there is one film you 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.280 have sometimes mentioned that I am surprised you have not 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.040 covered yet on Weird House Cinema. No, not Highlander or 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.960 even Highlander to the quickening, the film I'm speaking of 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.840 is nothing but Trouble. This was a film I saw 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.000 midway through back in the nineties on HBO. I had 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.920 no idea what it was about, really, but immediately felt 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.000 like I needed to take a shower afterwards due to 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.280 the high amount of ikeyness, gore, and nauseous prosthetic makeup 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.640 on Dan Ackroyd and those weird mutant twins. However, this 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.160 was also the first time I heard Digital Underground without 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.480 knowing who they were, so it wasn't all bad. I 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.800 really enjoyed your episode on Weird Music from a couple 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.040 of weeks back, as well as the companion episode on 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.080 Record Store Society. I would like to recommend one music video, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.480 although it may not be weird enough for your taste. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.000 This is the video for George Clinton's electro funk classic 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.240 Atomic Dog. I've included a link below. Also, can you 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.920 please explain the phrase throwing cabbages into the audience? Rob 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.120 mentioned when you were discussing post bly in Michigan, and 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.280 I have no idea what this means. Dan Okay, so 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.800 a number of things to address in this message. Uh, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.560 nothing but Trouble. I am pretty sure that came up 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.520 when we were talking about the Ridley Scott movie Prometheus, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.080 and I was deriding, um, what's his name, Guy Pierce's 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.360 makeup in that movie by saying that it was so 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.200 awful he looks like dan Ackroyd and Nothing but Trouble, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.200 which is kind of true. I've never seen all of 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.520 Nothing but Trouble. It's one of those movies I've seen 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.600 like parts of multiple times. They used to show it 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.040 on TV a lot, or at least I don't know. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.280 It is a movie that is so ugly it literally hurts. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.680 It's literally painful on the eyes and like in parts 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.880 of the head as you're watching it. It is a 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.160 unique film, though it is uniquely weird. It is. It 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.120 is a thing that emerged from dan Ackroyd's strange mind, 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.640 and I do love it for that's I guess it's 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:59.760 it's nobody's favorite movie, but I do find it perversely interesting. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.480 And indeed that scene, uh where well, there are two 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.200 scenes I think we're digital underground performed, but the main 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.960 scene kind of coming back to Fred Gwinn there's this 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:14.080 uh this country courthouse scene and Digital Underground is on 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.920 tour and they've been brought in and uh a charge 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.600 with speeding or something. I don't remember, but they basically 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.600 perform as part of their defense or something to that effect. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.280 So there's this huge musical number with Digital Underground performing 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.000 You Got Shocked Gene there he he he he takes 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.840 on the Humpty Hump persona you Got Tupac in there 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.320 as well, and then Dan Ackroyd's grotesque old man character 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.560 is uh is playing the organ. So it's it's tremendous 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.720 and I do I imagine for some people it was 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.000 there their introduction to Digital Underground, which was just a 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.840 you know, fabulous act, and Shock g was, you know, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.440 undeniably a huge talent, so it was it was sad 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.640 to hear about his passing. Yeah, I was listening to 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.520 the Humpty Dance earlier today. It's fantastic. Yeah. The song 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.760 they do, uh, same old song is the same old 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.840 song that they perform ended in um nothing but Trouble. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.040 I don't know, I think so anyway, great track as well, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.680 a number of hits and well beyond you know, just 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.680 the you know, the Humpty Dance, which because the most 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.480 famous uh digital underground track. They had so many great, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.560 great tracks that came out, so uh, if you if 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.199 you've never heard them, go look them up. And if 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.040 you haven't heard him in a while, uh, now is 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.320 a good time. But wait, what was this thing? Also? 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.600 Yeah you said that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. By the way, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.480 I'm glad to hear you mentioned Record Store Society, which, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.400 of course, uh, if you haven't heard our crossovers with Seth, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.960 our producer Seth has a podcast called The Record Store 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.920 Society where they talk about music. We did a couple 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.720 of crossover episodes, so you can check those out, or 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.920 you can look up The Record Store Society wherever you 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.240 get your podcasts. But also, yeah, in that crossover episode 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.639 we did with seth, um, we talked about a music 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.760 video called Possibly in Michigan, and you said that it 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.000 was not quite at the throwing cabbages into the audience 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.159 level of comedy. So I think that's what Dan is 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.840 asking about. What does that mean? That was just my 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.760 sort of on the spur of the moment attempt to 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.280 try and explain how I felt about the varying levels 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:14.240 at which creators and performers and composers, etcetera. Are aware 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:18.639 of the audience, perhaps acknowledging the audience, toying with the audience, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.640 and in the most extreme cases like straight up trolling 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.400 the audience, you know, or even provoking the audience, which 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.080 would be uh yeah, And I think I divided into 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.040 two categories there, But if I had to rethink it, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.879 I would say, you've got you got four different levels. Roughly, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.440 there's their performers that are throwing cabbages at each other 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.119 on the stage. They are performers that are doing that 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.120 and then occasionally allowing cabbage to fly into the audience. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.320 Then there are the the performers who are throwing cabbages 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.920 into the audience, uh, you know, with intention, and then 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:57.280 there cases where they're throwing them at audience members. And uh, 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.160 I don't I'm still not sure this actually clarifies any thing, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.800 but that's what I was talking about. Okay, So for you, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.359 possibly in Michigan was throwing cabbages into the audience, but 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.960 not at the audience, I guess. So yeah, wait, maybe 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.160 I'm misremembering it. I don't think I'm going to explore 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.080 this topic too much further and go into like a 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.359 full thesis, but it's just sort of like the loose 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.680 way I sometimes think of Like sometimes I feel like um, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.600 for instance, in electronic music and I D I d M, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.280 sometimes there'll be a track and the track is really great, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.160 but it will have some like atrocious title that sometimes 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.160 I feel like it's just like the creator is having 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.160 having a laugh at the perhaps at the audience's expense. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.960 But sometimes it doesn't matter because the track is so good, 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.560 you know. But then also sometimes the track is just 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.800 really weird and weird to the point where I'm like, 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.280 come on, are you just testing me to see what 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.560 I'll put up with as a listener. I don't know, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.760 you know. I feel like that's where there's some significant 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:59.080 overlap between electronic musicians and fast food menus. For sometimes 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.439 you ever get the feeling you're being trolled by a 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.560 fast food menu because they're trying to get you to 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.119 say the name of a fast food menu item that 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:11.520 is just absolutely uh just fatal to your personal dignity 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.399 to say out loud. Yeah and yeah. I mean it 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.200 can also take place in um, you know, independent restaurants 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.800 that have kind of cute sie titles for things. Yeah, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.320 and it's like will I say that out loud, or 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.240 will I just say I would like this sandwich or 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:32.040 something to that effect. Is it time for weird House 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.440 Cinema Listener Mail? I guess it is. We already sort 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.399 of got in there in the last message. Okay, so 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:41.080 this is from James. James says, Hi, guys, I've been 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.000 listening for several months and have been loving the podcast, 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.240 and I'm overdue in reaching out to give you props 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.080 regarding the Turbo Graphics sixteen segment of a recent listener 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.080 Mail episode. I think this all got started when we 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.119 were talking about Gunhead having some kind of adaptation for 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:00.000 the Turbo Graphics sixteen. Um. But anyway, in a previous 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.480 Listener mails, somebody brought up a game for the turbographics 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.520 that was like the most bizarre concept. It was like 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.520 a racing RPG, so you know where you'd have to 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.480 go around to different places on a map and like 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.400 meet and talk to people and convince them to race 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:21.520 with you. Uh, fantastic concept. But James here has an 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.600 answer of what this is. James says, it is a 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.359 racing game. It is called Final Lap twin. It's actually 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.080 a hybrid RPG racer with an overworld map complete with 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.080 random encounters, in which defeating opponents in races earns you 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.639