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Speaker 1: Where where are we in this debate? I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: with this, is this as good as it gets? Or

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Speaker 1: a control by the GOP. And this is the moment

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Speaker 1: will actually come to fruition are coming up. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to stump everybody because I think I'm going to find

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Speaker 1: another area where of ours and Jason agree on they're

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Speaker 1: gonna stick around. I think both of them want to

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Speaker 1: see this debate on or the vote rather on the

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Speaker 1: Green New Deal that is coming. I think I think

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Speaker 1: both of them want to see every lawmaker on the record,

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Speaker 1: but for very different reasons. You can download the Sound

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Speaker 1: On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or

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Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find

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Speaker 1: us on Radio dot com and I Heart Radio. We're

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELLI you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surreally on Bloomberg and seven m

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Speaker 1: h D two Bosom are Keith Urban on Monday. W

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Speaker 1: Kevin CERELLI Bloomberg News Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Radio. We are talking all things trade policy,

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Speaker 1: all things Mueller fallout, and yes, the Green New Deal.

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Speaker 1: There's a key vote coming up this week in particular,

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Speaker 1: and we've got just the panel to help guide us

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Speaker 1: through it. Her name is Varshny Prakash. Remember her name,

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Speaker 1: Varshny Prakash. She is the executive director and co founder

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Speaker 1: of Sunrise Movement, the organization that really launched and helped

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Speaker 1: to launch the Green New Deal. Have you heard of

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Speaker 1: fossil fuel divestment. It's all originating amongst these individuals who

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Speaker 1: New Deal. And Jason Miller, friend of the program, former

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Speaker 1: TENEO Strategy. He was very kind to stop by in

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Speaker 1: China trade talks. So we appreciate you being here, as

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Speaker 1: Secretary Manution and US Trade Representative Lightheiser are over there now. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: you'll find out what they're talking about. But Varsially, we

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Speaker 1: I wish we had more time. Varsinally, I want to

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Speaker 1: We are up against a heartbreak. That's it for me.

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