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Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you're listening to the Velvet's

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Speaker 1: Edge podcast. I believe our bodies are magnificent and can

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Speaker 1: do really amazing things if we set them up to

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Speaker 1: function properly. So this week on the podcast, I talked

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Speaker 1: to Nadine Artemis, who is the founder of Living Libations

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Speaker 1: and Living libations dot Com, which is a company. It's

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Speaker 1: full of skincare, beauty and body products made using one

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Speaker 1: natural oils and botanicals. There's no junk in these products.

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Speaker 1: She's also the author of Renegade Beauty, where she gives

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Speaker 1: natural and food based remedies for everything from melasma all

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Speaker 1: the way to cellulite. Don't Don't don I personally found

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Speaker 1: Nadine from her products Poetic Pits, which is the only

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Speaker 1: natural deodorant that has ever worked for me. Nadine is

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Speaker 1: full of knowledge about our bodies, natural chemistries and what

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Speaker 1: So here's Nadine. I'm here with Nadine Artemis, founder of

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Speaker 1: Living Libations and author of Renegade Beauty, about how to

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Speaker 1: reveal and revive your natural beauty radiance high nitting Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly so happy to have you on the Velvet

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Speaker 1: I've found you because of the product of Poetic Pits,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a bit, But now I'm

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Speaker 1: completely obsessed with all things Living Libations, which is your company,

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Speaker 1: and I just started reading your book too, so all

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Speaker 1: of it. Oh, I'm so glad you were able to

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Speaker 1: dive into the book. Yes, and some of our creations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about some of your creations.

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Speaker 1: Um So, Living Libations dot Com is your website and

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Speaker 1: are most of your products essential oil based? The ones

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Speaker 1: I saw were yeah, well, we do use essential oils

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Speaker 1: as a huge part of our palette. But really it's

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Speaker 1: like everything is pure natural, organic, um, you know, no fillers.

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Speaker 1: We just feel that every drop matters and we you know,

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Speaker 1: sourced from the botanical world because you just want all

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Speaker 1: goodness on your body because that's the drops from nature

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Speaker 1: that are you know, the most life giving and the

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Speaker 1: most beauty fulfilling. Even when you're looking at products where

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Speaker 1: things like a methyl parabin in and it's like, well

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Speaker 1: So it's you know, so micro, but those things show

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Speaker 1: up and when you know disease breast tissue is tested,

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Speaker 1: for example, that tissue is found to have parabins in it.

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Speaker 1: So really do just want goodness on in and around

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Speaker 1: our body? And we don't have to compromise either, We can't.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's twenty nineteen and there's a whole banquet

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Speaker 1: we care for our body. So how do you figure out, France,

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Speaker 1: since if you're using oils, are you set a lot

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Speaker 1: of botanicals, how do you figure out what works to

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of this process that I

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Speaker 1: for me. You know, I I come up with products

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Speaker 1: And then you know that manifest form is just that

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Speaker 1: So you know, and then there's always science behind it,

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Speaker 1: our skin, like yeah, that's the little biome. This lots

427
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Speaker 1: of good bugs. So you'll see the chapter on the

428
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Speaker 1: on skin, which is I believe it's called the moist

429
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Speaker 1: envelope of the souls. We do a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: the microbiome. But yes, we are all basically a tapestry

431
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Speaker 1: teeming with microbes on our skin, in our guts, in

432
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Speaker 1: our mouths. And it's the beneficial bacteria that we want

433
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Speaker 1: to be spearheading the population, and we don't want to

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Speaker 1: have the pathogens overtaking and so um. A lot of

435
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Speaker 1: our modern skincare regimes actually throw this balance of the

436
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Speaker 1: beneficial bacteria off, and then that paved the way for

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Speaker 1: the unwanted back to area. So when someone goes to

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Speaker 1: your website, how because I mean everything you just said

439
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Speaker 1: sounds amazing to me, but it also sounds overwhelming, Like

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Speaker 1: how do I pick the right product? You know, like I,

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Speaker 1: for instance, have blackheads on my nose? How do I

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Speaker 1: go to your website and pick which oil I need

443
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Speaker 1: to start using? Yes, so we have we say as

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of amazing restriction onwards. Um. So

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Speaker 1: customer care team. So the good thing is like, uh,

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Speaker 1: we simply you can email us and totally. Just you know,

449
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Speaker 1: over Skype and they're free and you know, anybody can

452
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Speaker 1: have and the ask those questions about dental care, oral care,

453
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Speaker 1: skincare and we will figure that out for you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the dental hair because

455
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Speaker 1: that was fascinating to me. So it's a natural approach

456
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Speaker 1: to dental care. Also, I have to talk about poetic

457
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: pits because it's been life changing for me. Like I said,

458
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Speaker 1: I found that's how I found you and I have

459
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Speaker 1: been probably on the natural deodorant train for about two

460
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Speaker 1: years now. Um. For me, I just I read a

461
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Speaker 1: lot about aluminum and just I didn't want to be

462
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: putting so much toxins into my warm pit every day

463
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: for sure, especially because we shaved their micro micro aluminum.

464
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Speaker 1: Think about that. Sure, maybe it's just a tiny amount again,

465
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Speaker 1: but you're putting that on for forty fifty years, right,

466
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Speaker 1: every single day exactly. UM. I actually have some post

467
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Speaker 1: on my blog velvet dot com if anyone wants to

468
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Speaker 1: read about why I made the change natural deodorant But

469
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: my issue was is I would wear a natural deodorant

470
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Speaker 1: for a month or two. It would work great and

471
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: I would smell fine, and then by the set a month,

472
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I would go work out or whatever it was, and

473
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Speaker 1: it just didn't work. So yeah, the poetic pits though,

474
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Speaker 1: let me tell you, I mean it has been crazy.

475
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Speaker 1: This is going to sound so disgusting, but I will

476
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Speaker 1: go work out after using it. I have the rose

477
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Speaker 1: scent and it smells so good. But I go work

478
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Speaker 1: out and then I leave the gym and my arm

479
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: pits still smells good after, you know, the sweatiest class.

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy. How does it work? Totally? That's what we

481
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: get that all the time, Like people do I just

482
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Speaker 1: did hot yoga and then people are like, oh my god,

483
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Speaker 1: you're still so good. What have you got so that

484
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: you know that In my twenties, um, that was also

485
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: an area where that was one of my last things

486
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Speaker 1: to go too, just for effectiveness. Even though I was

487
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Speaker 1: making everything, UM, I wasn't making the ordering at that point.

488
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Speaker 1: At that time, and you know, I was experimenting with

489
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Speaker 1: different ones obviously, you know, even a water based one,

490
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: but it wasn't quite concentrated enough. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about sandal would one day, and um,

492
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Speaker 1: I know I knew at that time, and this is

493
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Speaker 1: what made me connect the dots is it does have

494
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Speaker 1: a phido hormone, So like me, phido meaning a plant

495
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: hormone and of androsterone and so that and that's what

496
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: a hormone, a pheromone that both men and women to

497
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: create from there pits. So I was just like, oh,

498
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Speaker 1: there's such an affinity here between sandal wood and our armpits.

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Speaker 1: And so um, I started using sandal wood and just

500
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Speaker 1: found it was such a great solution. And then we

501
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Speaker 1: made and then should make all the little varieties. We

502
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Speaker 1: you know, made different formulas of essential world with sandal wood.

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Speaker 1: And so that's also what I do differently often in

504
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Speaker 1: my formulations too. It's not just like, you know, well

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Speaker 1: I was making this stuff sort of before green beauty

506
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Speaker 1: got popular anyway. But it wasn't just like Okay, now

507
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take something normal and then just switch it

508
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: up to cleaner ingredients. It's more like building something different

509
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Speaker 1: from the ground up. And so we have their sandal

510
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Speaker 1: would be based veterans. I mean, they're more exquisite than

511
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Speaker 1: the finest perfume, and they create such a great synergy

512
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: with everybody's pits because it takes your unique pheromonal aroma

513
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: and then highlights it and then sends it out on

514
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Speaker 1: this great as the great like molecular messenger to the planet,

515
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Speaker 1: whereas the other other unorants are like trying to stop

516
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Speaker 1: the sweat or just map your own aroma instead of

517
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Speaker 1: like celebrating that union of your aroma with the plant aroma.

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Speaker 1: And uh and that's how the poetic pits were born.

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Speaker 1: That is so interesting. Tell me if this is right

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Speaker 1: or not. But I got mine at Moon Juice in

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Speaker 1: l A. And the girl said the reason it worked

522
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Speaker 1: was because it removed the bacteria from your armpits. Is

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: that accurate? Well, it wouldn't remove it, that it would

524
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: work harmoniously with it. Okay, So that's what you're saying

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Speaker 1: with your own fair modes. Yeah, well well kind of.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are antibacterial, anti fungle, so it's not

527
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: um so it's bouncing at the bacteria because that's what

528
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: makes you smell. Yeah, and then the aroma, so then

529
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Speaker 1: the little aroma part of it is also been working

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Speaker 1: with your aroma. Would remind me of that Walt Whitman

531
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Speaker 1: quote in um the any rights, the sense of these

532
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Speaker 1: armpits is an aroma finer than prayer. That's how I

533
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Speaker 1: feel now about my armpits. I'm not even joking. It's

534
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Speaker 1: it's the best I feel like I've ever smiled. And

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Speaker 1: it's such a great place to kind of, you know,

536
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Speaker 1: put a perfume, so to speak. I mean, it's a

537
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Speaker 1: bit different than a perfume. There's no alcohol and stuff,

538
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: but it's it's such a great part because as soon

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00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: as you just get slightly heat, hot or excited, then

540
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: you just have these great transmission of this aroma. That's

541
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Speaker 1: just so sensual, right, I think that was most people

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Speaker 1: go ahead and go ahead. I'm just saying most people find,

543
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Speaker 1: like you know, if they don't shower every day, it

544
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Speaker 1: definitely works. Sentially, it works, yeah, multiple days in a row. Also,

545
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Speaker 1: I was going to say one thing that I did

546
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: have to adjust to with natural deodorant was that you

547
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: still sweat, Like when you just said you got if

548
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Speaker 1: you got hot, you do still sweat. But that's good.

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Like our bodies need to sweat, correct, We do need

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Speaker 1: to sweat, especially since we're you know, often just sort

551
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Speaker 1: of bound up and clothing and synthetic clothing and all that.

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Speaker 1: We definitely, you know, we want to sweat. You want

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Speaker 1: to sweat out that small stuff. You want the lymp

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Speaker 1: system working. Right? Is there one product that you could say,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is asking someone who their favorite

556
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Speaker 1: child is. But is there an overall products that you

557
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Speaker 1: that's either your best seller or that you just recommend

558
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: universally for everyone from the Living Libation site. Yeah, it

559
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Speaker 1: is a bit hard to harrow down, but I would

560
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Speaker 1: say like something like, you know, start with the Sea

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Speaker 1: bucks doorn Best can Ever as a foundation to everything

562
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Speaker 1: that you because it really that is like the one

563
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Speaker 1: bottle that can do it all, man, woman or child?

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Speaker 1: What does wash? Yes, so any of the best can

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Speaker 1: Ever is, But the Sea bucksorn Is was the first,

566
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Speaker 1: and it's so so popular, I mean we must have

567
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Speaker 1: like I think five reviews on that one product alone. Um,

568
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: so like you so again, because you're not going to

569
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Speaker 1: be using soap, and it was soap only for pits

570
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: and scrubbing your hands and nails. That's the only place

571
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: for soap. You don't want to be washing your face

572
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: with soap. Your arm skin doesn't need to be washed

573
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: with soap every day and you want to again, you

574
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: want to let that micro bio flourish, so you wash

575
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: your face with oil, so the seat bucks from bascan. Ever,

576
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: you can remove makeup, a man could shave with it.

577
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: You could use it as an after shave. You could

578
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: use it to moisturize your whole body skin after a

579
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: bath or shower. You can take it to your massage

580
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: therapist and get a massage with it. Um and you

581
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: can wash your face with it and then moisturize your

582
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: face with it. You can you can put it in

583
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: your hair to give an oil treatment before you wash

584
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: your hair, so it could do it all. See you

585
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: wash your face with an oil. Yeah, that is key

586
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: to super radiant and glowing skin. Really yeah, and it's

587
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: still would you say, I promise you even if you

588
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: have cisti acne for twenty years, it is the solution, right.

589
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: That was That's the first thought that comes to mind

590
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: is I think most people would think, well will it

591
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: make me break out? Yeah? I mean again, you have

592
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: to use quality oil. And you know you don't want

593
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: to be using the almond oils, peach kernel, the grape

594
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: seed or whatever combination of like you know again, I

595
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: call it petroleum based. They don't always have petroleum in

596
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: the word, but like there's a lot of words for

597
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: like you know, the mineral oil or just that whole

598
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: realm of ingredients. So um, you want to make sure

599
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: it's real oil. I reckon all of our best skin

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Speaker 1: evers have hooba in them. And I love ho hooba

601
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: because it is actually a plant wax. It's a liquid

602
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: plant wax. It is the oil, the botanical oil on

603
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: the planet that most matches are sea boots. It is

604
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: great for drawing things that have clogged pores, it's great

605
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: for removing makeup, and um, the thing is that we

606
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: have we are so conditioned to scrub our skin with

607
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Speaker 1: your factants and we think that's what we need to

608
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: wash our skins. But we really do need to sort

609
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: of step away from those concepts because it's very important

610
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: when we're healing the skin of wanting to even our skin, tongue,

611
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: get rid of that melasma that dry patches, all that

612
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, just start healing the skin. We need

613
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: to start thinking about sealing and healing the skin by

614
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: recovering the integrity of the epidermist and repairing the hydro

615
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: lipid barrier that seals the skin and that has been

616
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: damaged from you know, those derma rollers, to the acid peals,

617
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: to the over exfoliation, to the applying of chemicals to

618
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: scrub our face. And now that researchers and scientists are

619
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: studying the microbiome, now a lot of studies are coming

620
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: in and what we're seeing now is that the use

621
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Speaker 1: of surfactants, whether it's from a harsh like dove soap

622
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: or what seems to be a mild green beauty foaming cleanser,

623
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Speaker 1: they all this sort of the spin cycle of surfactants

624
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: is leaving in leaving in the stratum corneum of our skin,

625
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: the top layer. It is leaving microscopic splinters of surfactants

626
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: that are not washed away when we rinse with water

627
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: after we wash with soap and so um, it's very

628
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: important to really switch gears on that way of thinking

629
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: of caring for our face and um. You know, really

630
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: a lotion is made by just combining oil and water

631
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: within a multifier, and so when we wash our face

632
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: with oil, it's kind of like making a fresh lotion

633
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: on your face, and it's really able to you know,

634
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: pick up the dirt, lift off the makeup and um. Again,

635
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: you want to use something pure and it's a simple.

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00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: It's the way that skin was cleansed for centuries, you know,

637
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: from the Berber women to the Turkish bath bath ancient Greece.

638
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: All that way of bathing was with using oils and um.

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Speaker 1: So the website is Living Libations dot com. You guys

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Speaker 1: it's just it's so insightful. Nadine, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for doing this with me. Thank you my pleasure, and

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. Bye. This is Kelly Henderson

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