WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Cree Summer 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.240 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.479 welcome to another episode of QLs Classic. I'm Quest Love 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.720 and we hear quest Love Supreme. We like to dig 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.720 it into the archives to bring you some really amazing 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.080 interviews and stories from past episodes. Coming up next, we're 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.440 going to talk to actress Chris Summer about our pioneering 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:25.159 work on the. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.840 HBCU SIcom Classic A Different. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.159 World, and her endless work of animated voiceovers. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.239 For movies and television. We really hope you enjoyed we did. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.080 Are you ready? Let's get it. Here goes nothing, Here 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:42.479 we go. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:54.920 Supreme Supreme, O, Rome Supreme Supreme, Rome Suprema Sun Supreme 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.960 Rome Supreme Sun Sun Supreme. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.280 On some mumbers that are not a newcomer, humble brag 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.480 nemon straight stunner, Yeah, hi Jack my theme. Ain't that 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.440 a bummer roll gaes st up like twenty nine humbers? 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:21.680 Oh god, thunder whoops ned Flanders. I made a blunder 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.199 straight flag on my heather hunter craft work. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.760 Can't do these numbers? Oh lord, ugly salad. Hold the 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:38.319 cute cumbers. Gunner Runner, Running Connor, Yeah, Hayters. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:43.440 Boom My Verse, Sleeping Slender, Yeah, mediocre album opening song, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:51.840 Bill Thunder, Robinson g Ross, Ruff and Jackson Wonder, Alphabet 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:59.320 carries asking price, expensive, high feed, dumb and dumber. Yeah, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.520 a ya, that's a rhyme scheme for Crease Summers. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:13.040 Somewhere that name Supreme Supremo road. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.400 My name is Fante, Yeah, time to get deep. Yeah, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:18.720 Chris Sumo. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.040 Woke me from my mean o. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:29.679 Son Son Supremo roll call Supremo Supremo roll call. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.560 My name is Sugar. Yeah, I got bad habits. Yeah, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.320 but I'm not the only one here who works with 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:37.680 Joey Kravitz. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:45.840 Son Supreme A roll call Suprema, son Son Supremo roll call. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.240 Dude was younger, Yeah, Freddie Brookstream saying, but that opinion 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.320 subject to change. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.920 Son Son Supreme roll. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.680 So sore roll call sly Ere Yeah, Oh my gosh, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:05.079 she's here. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.800 Yeah, Chris Summer, I mean in your trip for years. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:18.239 Whoa Supremo, Some Supremo roll call, some Supremo roll. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:26.000 Call from Saskatchewan to Toronto to North Richmond, Sherman Oaks. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.600 You know, let me fish, let me do it. Again. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:30.840 Let me. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:41.839 Supreme roll call Supremo, Supremo role cal Suprema son son 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:43.200 sub freeo roll. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.280 I didn't even get there. I was still trying to 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:49.680 get there. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:50.400 I think I met. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.760 Everybody was looking at their books and I looked at 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:53.880 my empty hairs. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.160 You well from Saskatchewan. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.040 I started in Saskatchewan, then I went to Toronto, then 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.320 I went to North Richmond. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.440 That I went to Sherman Oaks. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.119 I make so many jokes about Saskatchewan, but don't think 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.200 I know anyone from Substatchell. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:09.960 That's amazing. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:17.600 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Creston. This 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.640 is Cree Supreme only on Pandora. We have a team 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.159 Supreme with us. We got Sugar Steve and Boss Bill 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:25.719 and Fantigolo and. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.520 How's it going. I'm sweating. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.920 We are extremely happy to have our guests with us today. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.800 She is I mean, is she our first Boho crush ever? 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.720 Second? Second? Second? Second? 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:45.800 You know. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:56.120 Yes, because you said first said first, I saw Lisa. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.760 First battle is that we're doing. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.240 It's not Denise versus Freddy, It's Freddy. Freddy was to me. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.760 Freddy was more idealistic like she was. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.840 Was you know what I mean, Like she was just 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.839 sonny and like you really like you would take Freddie 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.920 on to your mama. Yeah, Like Denise was just kind 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.040 of flighty and kind of like exactly, y'all are talking 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.200 Denise versus Freddy. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.680 So but I was just talking about who I saw first. Well, yeah, 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.240 we technically my out. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.000 My first question It was I was more questioning on 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.760 Freddie Brooks than Denise. Denise didn't strike me as bowho. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.520 She just striked me as somebody couldn't keep a job, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.800 and I just I couldn't fuck with that. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:41.000 Young favorite employee ever. Ladies, John please welcome Chris Summer. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:46.560 Yes, it's a delight to be here. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.920 Shout out to Zoe for giving me this number because 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:56.200 love I had to, you know, hit her up fifty 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.960 two billion times. She's one of those people that might 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.960 answer the phone this week. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:00.560 You know. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.839 Now I feel bad that I disturb my roll call. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.960 That Stevens were like legendary fighters. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:14.280 Yeah, okay, but that feels yeah, hate relationship. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.880 Going, But that's Steve. You know, you'll learn to hate 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:16.600 them in five minutes. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.120 You'll experience all the all the emotions. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.960 I already have that spent moment I had to spit. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.200 I gotta know that you Okay. Today you told me 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.839 that you are. We're going to a Star Wars convention. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.200 Yes, and I am now endeared to you because you 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:38.960 let me come in a little early so I can 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.320 still get there. It's a pop up Star Wars bar 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.680 called The Dark Side, and it's been traveling all over 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.720 America and it's interactive. They haven't told me too much. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.720 I do know that there's the possibility of a burlesque show, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.040 all the chicks representing all the different planets in the 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:56.920 Star Wars universe. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:02.359 Doesn't it sound amazing? Yes? Look I got this. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.400 The bar that Jap of the Hut, was it right? 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.080 That's what you're I mean, I don't know what this 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.160 bar is. They just call it the Dark Side. I'm 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.920 hoping the band is going to be there, because that 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.200 band is legendary. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:21.200 I mean, yes, yes, you really are a Star Wars 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.800 what's your I am? I love it? 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.800 What's your favorite all time scene in and all the 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.080 Star Wars things combined? 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.360 It's probably when Luke. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.880 I mean, it's kind of dour and a little maudlin, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.400 but I love that moment when Luke when his parents 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.440 are dead and they're charred, and they're just fucking sitting there, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.720 you know, frozen. And he comes up out of that 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.240 beautiful sphere that they live in, and he looks and 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.760 there's those two moons, like those that clear sky, and 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.400 those two blood red moons. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.640 I don't know. That just always has rocked me. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.960 I was going to say, have you seen the Last Jedi? 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.320 But that's a stupid question. Of course, what did you think? 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:58.640 You know? 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.120 I just loved the nostalgia of it. I mean, everybody 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.560 was getting so fucking hung up on you know, why 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.360 is lay a flying and ship? 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.520 I don't give a fuck. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.640 I mean, I think my heart is just so all 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:16.520 encompassing all things Star Wars, except for of course, well know, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:22.840 he shall not be named jar Jar Banks, So I mean, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.120 you know, yeah may so, no fucking like it either, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.160 That's the only one I don't do. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.720 But yeah, I mean I liked it. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:31.360 I liked it. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.240 It's hard to it's hard to make me not like 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:33.880 I haven't. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:34.120 Seen it yet. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.600 I'm looking for as a as a so called nerd 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:43.120 who is not that much into science fiction. Yeah, it's 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.800 it's really hard for me to figure out which side 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.120 is correct, because a lot of Star Wars dweebs are 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.199 like Prince Vans. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.400 Yeah, they're not really feeling this film. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.760 But yet I trust a Rotten Tomatoes ninety one when 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.920 I see it now, I mean, who am I to 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.439 believe that all these critics were just blindly going to 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:08.480 give this a claim across the board? Really no, because 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.560 they ended up with a now report one one manly 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.520 Portman and now those three middle one suck. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.040 Yeah, yeah, I think we can all agree those were drag. 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:17.520 So you liked the New One though? 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.719 I did. I had a good time, man, I was 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.520 so excited to get there. And favorite Star Wars movie 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.840 of all time A New Hope, of course. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:26.880 Yeah. I'm hearing a lot of people say Rogue one 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:27.400 these days. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:28.280 Now they can have it. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.280 No, I liked it, but it ain't no New Hope, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.559 and a New Hope just changed my my world. I 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.280 remember my daddy who's left now he's dead. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.960 He he and I loved Star Wars together. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:50.079 New Hope. He just were you trying to explain it 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:50.959 to me like football? 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.679 I was telling Amre, who's not the biggest Star Wars fan, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:55.600 that New Hope. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.640 Was episode one, Episode one, which is technically episode episode 0:09:58.800 --> 0:09:59.760 Well yeah, yeah. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.280 I mean it was the very first one that came out, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.640 and I remember just this whole universe and this whole 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:06.880 concept of the force. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:08.480 I loved it. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.040 It made sense to me being not a religious person, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.559 it occurred for me in a very religious way. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.400 So did you ever have any dreams of, especially with 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.000 all the voice over working, Yeah, and working with like 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.800 Frank Oz and all that stuff, like, to ever do 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:25.360 these things? 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.320 Well, you want to hear something crazy, My father, Don 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.559 Frank's was the first one to ever give voice to 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:36.760 Boba Fett in the Star Wars animation. Yeah, because you know, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.199 we never hear Boba Fett speak, so that in animation 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.320 they let him speak. And then a couple of years later, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.439 George Lucas did an animated cartoon called Droid's and Ewoks, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.599 and I got to play Princess Nissa of the Ewoks. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.480 So that I think I was ten years old. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.040 Oh wow, was your father a voice actor? 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.960 Yeah, that's how I started. It was just your nepotis. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:04.079 From the beginning. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.839 I found where she told us in the in the 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.520 so I'm driving the car, thank you, I appreciated. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:11.199 In the back. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.640 Let us know what we can ask directions. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.800 So you were you were born in Saskatchewan. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.439 I was, Actually, you want to hear something crazy. I 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.960 was born in in Sino California. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.880 Y born in Sino California, And I know, and then 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.720 right away, I think at the maybe six or seven months, 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.319 my parents dropped out of society and moved to Saskatchewan. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.760 And I was raised on an Indian reservation with the 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.719 plains Kre Indians. We had lived in a house that 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.959 my father made out of mud, which is traditional for 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:39.560 this tribe. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.040 And we were there until I was about seven years 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:47.720 oldy Oh, it was beautiful. I mean well, I mean 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:48.920 it was definitely hard. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.760 I don't know if you've ever been in a Canadian 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.199 tundra and the plane and the plains in the dead 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.920 of fucking winter. I mean it's, you know, below forty 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.560 it's pretty fucking cold. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.960 Yeah, you have to use your lightsaber. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:03.920 To open your eyes. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:04.320 Yeah. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:05.760 But we. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.080 It was powerful. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.440 I mean I was exposed to all kinds of beautiful 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:17.040 native music, pow wow music, payota music, dancing powow as 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.240 a girl. It was a nice way to grow up, 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.880 I'd say. And then after that we left there res 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.120 and we lived nomadic in a school bus for a 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.320 couple of years and then finally settled in Toronto. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.040 Wow. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.839 Yeah, it sounds like a half of Freddy's backstory. I 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.480 think they got it from me. I mean, I remember 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.679 when I walked into audition. They had this idea that 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:43.000 this that Freddie Winifred was from Santa Fe and so 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.760 they and I know that they wanted her to be, 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.600 you know, have a white mother, was what they said. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.120 And then they just kind of left it open end. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.480 And then I just remember them after auditioning, they were 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.400 interviewing me, and I could see their wills turning. And 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.199 then the next time I went back to audition, the 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.680 script was almost almost just the just the interview, you know. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.120 What I mean? So, were you the only child or 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.080 did you have something? 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.520 I have a baby brother. His name is Rainbow's son. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.719 He's also an actor. I don't know if there's any 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.880 geeks out there. He was in the original Stargate with 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.920 Jason Momoa. We're all very conted. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:16.920 Yeah that's kind of strange. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.800 Yeah. Yeah, he's ten years my junior. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.760 So how are you well, not even how are you 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.400 pulled into acting? Your father was my father was an 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.079 voice over work, but you guys live this whole he 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:31.000 was doing more. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.559 Than voiceover work. I mean he when I was, like 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:34.800 I said, I was born in Encino. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.400 My parents met. My mother's a dancer and my father 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 was was an actor, and he was an on camera 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:43.640 actor at first. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.880 He was did his well. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.520 The movie that they met was Francis Ford Coppola's very 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.800 first film and fred Astaire's very last film. It was 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.320 a musical called Finian's Rainbow starring fred Astae Patulla Clark 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.719 and my father and my mother was a dancer in 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.719 the chorus, and that's how they met. So he was 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.160 a very very popular working actor for years and years 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.480 and years. And she danced all over all over Broadway, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.360 you know, and Sweet Charity with Juliet Prowse and you know, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.040 Shirley McLean and they were really magic. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.080 So what was the decision to leave? 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.760 They were disillusioned. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:28.640 They really were disillusioned. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.320 I mean, he was really getting tired of playing bad 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.000 guys that hurt babies and women. And she was my 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.280 mother as beautiful and black as night, and she was 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.720 tired of, you know, being the only one or never 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.040 getting to be the one. And they just said fuck it. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.960 And they sold everything they had and moved to Saskatchewan, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.240 where my father had been dig this crazy thing. He's 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.440 had so many incarnations. But for a while he was 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.320 the spiritual advisor for this heavy metal band called Crowbar. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:14:59.320 Yeah. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.760 Ar did this tour of all the Indian reservations in Canada, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.840 and my old man just fell in love with. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.080 Red Pheasant this reservation. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.520 Then he really became family to them, and I think 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.040 that's where the seeds were planted. And they told him 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.640 if he ever wanted to come back, he could, and 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.320 he came back when he found my mama. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.440 Wow, there's a gorgeous picture of the two of you online. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.200 There is his hair braided. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.080 Yeah, did you wear a lot? 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:25.520 Yeah? 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.800 I wear my parents' hats. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.200 You know, I've been wearing It's so trendy now, but 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:30.720 you know, I've been wearing these hats since I was 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:31.360 a little girl. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:32.240 You know. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.720 So as a young girl, did you have dreams of 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.320 getting it? How did you get into the industry. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.120 Or I always wanted to be a performer. My parents 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.040 performed even though we were on the res You know. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.520 My father did this amazing show on the reservation called 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.720 The Insanity of One Man and it was just his 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.280 ramblings and his thoughts. He'd had a projector he'd play autoharp, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.160 and then my mother would dance, you know. She the 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.360 tap dancer retired from the National Tap Company of Canada 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.600 at sixty nine years old. And so just watching them, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.960 I really never considered doing anything else. I wanted to 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.960 be a singer and a songwriter and an actress. And 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.200 then when we left the res my father that's when 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:21.040 he became a voiceover actor, and then watching him, I 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:21.720 just wanted to. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:22.080 Do it too. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.440 Did he have a like, was he of a male 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:25.240 blink variety? 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:25.360 Like? 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.600 What type of voice did your father? 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:31.560 My father just had this really low and rich, resonant, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.440 low raspy voice, really beautiful. Yeah, I mean, but he 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.400 did everything. I mean, he could alter himself. He was 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.760 so talented. Can you tell I missed my old man? 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:45.320 Yeah? 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.280 Okay, so you're actual, I mean you're speaking voice, and 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:56.080 I mean it's so there's such a not a trademark 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.480 on it, but it's so distinctive. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:57.960 Yeah. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.560 Did you have this sort of raspy curse, this kind 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.800 of voice when you were a kid? I did? 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.080 I Mean, my mama used to joke about it that 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.480 I always sounded like I had a mentalated cool hanging 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.639 out of my mouth. I mean even when I was 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.159 like three years old, you know, was like Mama, you know, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.120 it's just this low, kind of froggy. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.680 And my youngest daughter, Hero has that same voice. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.560 Yeah, how old is she? 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:24.160 Hero? 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.800 Peregrine storm Born is four years old? 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.800 Oh wow, she's a star on Instagram. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.680 I mean we got to an elevator after Dan's class 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.800 and this chick was like Hero, you know, and it was, yeah, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.439 a little it was a little creepy. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.000 I should Yeah, we spoke to pause. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:41.480 Sorry. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.960 We spoke to U Laila Hathaway recently about the way 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.040 her voice sounds strikingly similar to her father's. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:48.480 Isn't it. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.440 The same as people looking physically? Yeah, their facial features 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.040 or voices almost. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:57.600 The same thing. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:58.680 It's Sheila. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.440 It's funny that you bring up, because you're exactly right. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.720 When you can have a white man and an Asian 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.920 man who look the same and they will sound the same. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.600 It's jaw placement, and it's all these things that give 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.800 us all these sounds, and that's why they sound so similar. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.359 It's really freaky, you know. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.240 Hashtag jaw placement. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:28.640 Yeah, right now is a very hypnotic thing to every syllable, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.200 and it's an articulation. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.080 That she does voiceover work people. Yeah, but where does 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.080 that come from? Like were you trained for this? Like 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.160 how did you even enter? 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.320 Well, like I said, it was it was pure nepotism. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.280 My father was doing a voice on Inspector Gadget and 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.880 I was he Well, he would go on and off 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.080 with with Welker, with Frank Welker, just sometimes guessing and 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.560 doing doctor Claw, and then he would do a lot 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.080 of in Daniel's, a lot of henchmen, a lot of 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.119 you know, teachers in the school and shit like that. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.680 And then I remember, but this is just when he 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.600 was auditioning. We didn't even know if he had the gig. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.960 And then he said, could you audition Cree, which is 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.560 just being in the right place at the right time, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.560 the child of the right person. And then I lucked 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.800 out and got it, you know, yeah, I got Penny. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.880 And then it just really steamrolled from there. I found 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.200 myself working so much. I really wasn't even in school. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:31.119 I was singing jingles and doing every voiceover that came 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:37.199 down the pike in Toronto, you know, Okay, yeah, oh 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:39.720 well I was. I was living in Canada at the time. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.440 I didn't move to LA until I was seventeen. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.480 Oh really yeah, No, Inspector Gadget came from Okay, yeah. 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:49.320 It came from Deek Entertainment, which is a Canadian company. Oh, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.359 I mean, but in Toronto is where I did you 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.040 know all the George Lucas productions. It's where I was 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.679 in the very first Hello Kitty cartoon. I played her 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.320 arch nemesis, cat Nip. God, what else did we do? 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.000 Hello Kitty had a cartoon, actual. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:04.919 Had an actual cartoon. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.840 Yeah, Hello Kitty's been around for quite a long a 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:07.360 long time. 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.320 I've seen Hello Kitty. I just never knew it was 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.520 a car, actual cartoon with voices, and. 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:14.480 And she had enemies. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:15.479 She had enemies. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.040 This really weird chick name cat Nip, which is a 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:20.200 kick ass name, isn't it? 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:24.520 You? Guys? 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:24.919 Ye? 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:30.800 Sorry, I have a question. 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.159 Do you have like duel citizenship? 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:38.600 I do have dual citizenship? I love this guy, yet. 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:40.359 Give it? 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.480 No, I was I was just wondering what country we 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:46.200 should get married. 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:47.959 She's married. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:59.320 I'm actually not there, hold on bringing no, I I 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.119 haven't man and he ain't going nowhere. I guess I 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.800 should be married. You know it feels man you are committed. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.680 it's not it's not important. 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:10.720 And I was just kidding, just kidding. 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.200 She lives in Canada. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:20.480 On vacation in Niagaphone. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.000 I know it's not looking at her like that. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.200 See what high school? Did you go to high school? 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.600 I went to high school in Toronto for about ten minutes. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.960 I actually started school in the fourth grade and I 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.920 dropped out right before I started the tenth grade. So 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.119 I have six, almost six years of formal education. I 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.160 went to the Toronto High School for the Performing Arts. 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:40.480 There was thirty six students. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:42.440 Wow, in the entire high school. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.359 The entire high school. Fridays were dedicated to cleaning the school, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.040 all of us. Yeah. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.040 So what was in between tenth grade and being seventeen 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:50.880 and come into. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.560 Well tenth I was honest, honest to god, I just 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.119 was so. I was kind of burnt out. You know, 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.119 I was working a lot, and I remember going to 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.239 my father, my best friend and I who's in LA 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.119 she's an actress too, Tamara Taylor. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.240 She and I we just wanted to leave Toronto. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.879 We had so many dreams about coming to la I 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.080 wanted to come here and have a band, and I 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.840 was going to make music and that was really my dream. 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:18.880 And she was going to come here at the time 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.840 and be a model, which she'd hate for me to 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:25.280 say now that all changed, That all change, and she 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.720 of course committed to being an incredible actress. But we 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.199 looked at each other at we had just turned sixteen, 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:32.639 and we said, do you want to do this anymore? 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.840 And we said, no fucking way. And I said to 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.879 my dad, I think I want to drop out of 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.040 high school and he said. 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.280 What tuki so long? Man? 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:40.560 Wow? 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.080 I were so disappointed that I'd gone this long. 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:46.120 And he said, you know, I was just giving you space, man, 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.480 because I thought I thought you might might like it. 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.399 And I said, I I can't stand it. You know 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:51.240 that was an option. 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:52.040 Yeah. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:55.920 Oh, she felt the same way. I mean, they really 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.600 had such disdain for the education system. 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.480 And you must have had a hell of us savings 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.400 already for someone I'm just doing. 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:08.399 Okay, I can't here, okay, okay, secure at the bag damn. 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.800 So from that point on, once you came here, what 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.000 was your first break? 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.560 I guess my first break was working for an amazing 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.120 woman whose since retired. I'm miss sterely named Andrea Romano, 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.000 and she directed a Steven Spielberg cartoon called Tiny Tunes. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.280 Oh Yeah, obscure, and. 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:32.359 I played Elmira Almira. Yeah you know, I'm going to 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:37.280 hug you and squeeze you think you go on the paper, Bobby. 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:45.120 Hilly, that's what I know. Yeah, that was my first 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:45.959 job in LA. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.720 How do you develop because you do so many voiceovers? 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:54.560 Yeah, how do you develop, uh, the specific characteristics in 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:55.560 the voices. 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:55.680 That you do. 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.200 Luckily, they give they give you a picture of the 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.720 character and then they usually get you like a little 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:05.480 bitty paragraph describing the character. And I remember looking at Elmira. 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.560 The paragraph threw me because it said she was Elmer 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:16.560 Fudd's niece, and I remember, yeah, it just and I 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.880 remember thinking like, oh, Ship, I can't do an Elmer Fudd. 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:20.760 I'm fucked. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.920 And then I looked down and I saw that she 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.160 had like a gerbil skull in the middle of her bow. 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.200 Do you guys remember, And then I read the lines 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.160 and I just thought, this chick is bad, ship nuts. 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.399 I'm just going to play her so crazy and just 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.840 see what happens. But I really had no expectation because 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.240 I didn't put that, you know, that Elma fudd elment 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:44.879 into so I. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.240 Can't believe I never made that connection. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.119 And now you look at her face and it's like 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:50.840 she looks. 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.880 Tell me that Tiny Tuns came out before a Different World? 0:24:56.240 --> 0:25:01.120 Yes it did, Yes, I'm I mean if it didn't 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.960 come out before Different World, I got booked it before 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:03.520 a Different World. 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.600 Oh okay, you came aboard a Different World eighty eight? 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:08.400 I thought. 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.240 Ninety okay, well slightly one year right made it tomatow. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.240 So yeah, you just look at the character and you're like. 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.560 Yeah, and I read the paragraph and see what I 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.200 usually go by what I feel, you know what I mean? 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.640 You get a feeling when you look. I do anyway, 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.040 and maybe it's just accumulated through all these years. 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.399 I get it just to look at the eyes. 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.040 So they're not telling you, like what's directing to go 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:36.520 with them? 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:37.080 They do. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.040 They give you a really tiny thing that says she's thirteen, 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.280 or he's fourteen and he really likes sports, he's shy, 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.359 he's always got a cold, or you know. Sometimes they 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.200 give you little things or you know, but you really 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.320 have to make it up yourself, which is you. 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:56.800 Know, acting, that's the cool part, man, are the what 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.200 would so taping tiny tunes? 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:03.160 As a voice actor? How long would an episode take 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:05.000 in order for you to get all the voices down for? 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.560 Maybe like an hour maybe if it's full cast, maybe 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:09.240 an hour and a half. 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.040 Is this per episode or just like a season or 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.399 per episode? And would you go to a studio? Like 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:15.920 how would you do it? 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:16.520 You just like this? 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.600 You go and go in the studio and have all 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.520 the chairs in a circle like us, and a booth 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.120 with your stand and your script and then and those 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.040 are the best ones. I mean oftentimes now things have 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.240 changed so much and everybody's so damn busy. Oftentimes it's 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:30.919 just me alone. 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.920 Yeah, you just read your lines and then they put 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.560 it together later what did they mix it? But at 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.639 the time you're doing that, you were all doing it together. 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:42.840 But there used to be a really golden age when 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:44.600 we used to all record together and it felt like 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.720 you were kind of doing live radio, which is fun, 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:48.560 which I used to do in Toronto too, a lot 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:49.240 of live radio. 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:49.920 There's fun. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.720 Who are the uh kind of the veterans of that 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.280 voice circle? I know the word I know mel Blank 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.000 and I know Marsh Maurice Lamars. 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:02.000 Yeah, another Canadian. 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.920 A lot of us are Canadian, by the way, I 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:10.199 would I mean listen Tress McNeil, Rob Paulson, Tara Strong, 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.560 Robin Tayer and other Canadians Jennifer Hale, Grey. 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.680 Delisle, Like who were the idols, the gods. 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.399 The well for me? I mean, I really look up 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:20.880 to Tress McNeil. 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:25.760 She's you probably know her from like Futurama and the Simpsons. 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.399 I mean, she's just one of these. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.520 I remember when I walked into Tiny Tunes that was 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.160 the first time I met Tress, and she did six 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.240 voices in a row, talking to herself literally the entire scene. 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.000 And I remember at seventeen just sitting down going, fuck, 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.959 I am way out of my depth, man, because up 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:49.080 until then, I think I was okay as a voiceover artist, 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.880 but I don't know if I was committed to being 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.640 really good, because sometimes when you do things as a kid, 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.520 you don't even mean it per se. You know, commitment 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.399 and real passion, I think is something that I developed 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.720 in voiceover over time. Like you said, falling in love 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.159 with people and admiring their talent, and that in that 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.080 show was when I made a conscious decision to be good. 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.560 Is it hard to to turn on? Sometimes? 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.560 Say, if you're on set and you might have gotten 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.119 a text that blah blah blah's in the hospital or 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.280 someone passes away, and suddenly it's like, all right, well, production, 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:30.920 you got to turn on. 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.600 Let's go Like how hard is it to well? 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.560 You know, because you no, you, I mean, you do 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.440 this too. You know exactly what the answer to that is, 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.040 you do it as best you can, you know. I mean, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.160 I've been in that situation several times, and I think 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.400 one thing, I just being a born gypsy and a 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:56.280 hereditary performer, it definitely is the show must go on. 0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.800 So I will show up as best as I can, 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.520 be a little afraid at the edges, and when they 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.520 yell cut probably fault to pieces, you know. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:22.080 So how did you get word of a Different World developing? 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.920 I had a manager is when I got to l 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.560 a very kind man, Larry Robbins retired now, and he 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.600 he and his wife let me live with him actually 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.320 for the first six months, and he would drive me 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.720 to all my auditions, and I think Different World was 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.160 the first audition I had was for. 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.640 I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you, sucker. 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:40.720 I know, I was not. 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.920 I did not do the part. I didn't get any 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.240 parts that was my audition for. I auditioned for the 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:46.480 part that Don Lewis played. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:55.760 Imagine you can imagine audition for the part that Amory 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.520 Johnson taken off. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:00.760 Listen. 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.200 I I just I think I just went there and 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.440 just took a dump. I was probably just awful. But 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.720 the next audition was a different world. So that was 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.200 a real score, really really lucky. 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.280 So you're actually one of the few people in a 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:19.840 different world that didn't go through school days. Yeah, so 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.880 was there a moment for you to get on in 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.120 that production or in that movie or never? 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.800 Just that didn't happen long prior. 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.400 Yeah, okay, but they were already all friends and everybody 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.120 year and I came the second year, so they were 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:35.800 already doing that. 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.480 Because so when you came along, that's the year that 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.000 Wi Allen also came board. 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.880 We all came and Charnelle Brown and so Dad, we 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:43.720 all came together. 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.920 So you came on the retooling what okay? 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.960 Explaining to me, I wasn't you know, because there was 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.360 an Internet and none of that stuff that, So what 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:58.120 was the problem with whatever happened the first year that 0:30:58.280 --> 0:30:59.960 they cleaned up and then I. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:00.920 Don't know, I do know that. 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.320 I can't call her Lisa, but okay, well Lisa got 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.160 pregnant and so she wasn't going to return to a 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.640 different world was what we were told at the time. 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.360 Okay, but also with Marissa leaving and the director who 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.120 was the first director before, I don't know that Debbie 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.040 came along, Like I just know that they just had a. 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.520 Complete Yeah, they felt they I mean yeah, and Debbie 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.280 came in saying, let's make it like a real black college. 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:29.400 Yeah. 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.400 The first season is like the week of season like, 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.160 that's it didn't really look good until she came. 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:36.880 It wasn't It wasn't one person who was the star. 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:38.400 It was kind of cool. Everybody. 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.720 Dwayne like finally fell in love with each other the 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.280 last episode, or at least she kissed him the last episode. 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:44.920 Yeah, and. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.160 She went back to the house. She was still at 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:50.640 the Cosby Houseyne. 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:50.920 Was so traumatized. 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:51.440 He looked up with. 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.960 So what was it like for those was it four 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.640 years for you? That was college. 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:01.080 And work? 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.360 Were you at the time I started it? The just 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.640 turn God, I think I was just about to turn eighteen. 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.040 I guess are you tired of talking about a different world? 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:09.280 You know? 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.320 I love it's a good world. Do you know what 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.480 I love about a different world? 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.680 There was a lot of times, a long stretch of time, 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.120 nobody fucking talked about Different World. Yeah, And I feel 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.480 like Different World is very is you know, it was 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.600 over and then nobody talked about it, and then just 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.560 recently it's become this real retroactive, especially with You'll come back. 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.400 It's just it's like, yes, I mean, maybe you loved it, 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.520 you know, forever, and you were consistent, But the truth is, 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.440 you know, well, you know, a Different World really wasn't 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.959 I mean, it was a hit. It was a hit 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.960 because it was in the right place, you know, we 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:47.040 were right after Cosby and then. But the truth is, independently, 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.200 you know, we really didn't get a lot of love, 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:50.240 you know. 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:51.280 And that's the truth. 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.040 But every single now about every single black household had 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:55.240 you on. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.680 So maybe yes, I went knots very farm, I would 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.520 get a lot of right in LA. 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.920 Otherwise it was really not that popular. I mean, I 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.880 feel like it's much more beloved now. 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.960 Yeah, And I mean it's just I mean, I think 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.320 the importance of it is more understood. I mean, for me, 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.920 you know, that was the first time I really saw college. 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.080 I mean, like my you know, my grandmother and my 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.840 grandparents they were teachers, and so I had people in 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.080 my family that were college graduates. But it was just 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.880 always an idea. It's just you hear about this college thing, 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.320 but it's like, okay, so what is that? But then 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.720 a different world came and you actually saw like, oh, 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.640 so there's this place after high school that you go 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.040 call college and what does. 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:38.440 It look like? 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.080 And you know, you have you know, the calf, like 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.000 the whole going with you know, mister gangs like all 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.840 that like that. Really yeah, yeah, that was you know, 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.400 that was like, oh ship. And so I actually talked 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.200 to Kadeen. It's been like a couple of years of 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:52.800 but I just had a chance to tell him, you know, 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.160 I man, just how much that show did for me, 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.120 like going to and graduating from an HBCU. 0:33:58.680 --> 0:33:59.960 I mean, a different world. 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.000 I know, a lot of cats my generation probably would 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.160 not have even thought about college if you were not 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:06.960 for a different world. 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.040 This is why this show is so magic, and this 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.240 is also a reason I'll never get tired of talking 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.759 about it, because I'm just proud. I mean, what a 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.920 lovely thing to get to say that I was a 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.320 part of it. Because there's not a place I go 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.960 where I don't hear the same story where someone comes 0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:23.640 up and says, man, I never thought I could go 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.120 to college. 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:24.279 I was. 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.080 I didn't have a you know, any kind of academic career. 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.440 But then I started watching Different World and I got inspired. 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.080 I got my ship together, and I went to college. 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.440 And that's pretty damn beautiful. 0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.719 So first season you ever, did you had a date 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:37.520 rape episode? 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:44.240 Yes, with the Last Dragon sa. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.600 It was her first season. Yeah, what was that like? 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.040 Well, first of all, I love that fucking movie, so 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.600 I couldn't wait to meet him and I was so excited. 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.880 I don't know, I don't want to was really awkward? 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.840 Should I tell the stories? 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:02.319 Yes? 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.520 Yes, it was super awkward, but I just was All 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.800 of us girls were in a you know, you know, 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.520 we were in a tizzy. Man, we can wait for 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:10.520 this dude to show up. 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:14.480 And then I got and no, no, no, I don't 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.480 want to say that I'm such as everyone thinks I'm 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.600 so kind. Okay, but no, but I just remember we 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.640 were doing the thing, and this is not his fault 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.200 because I just attribute this to a lack of experience. 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.400 I don't know how many movies he did other than 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:27.960 the Last. 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.359 Dragon it was, yeah, Janet video. 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:34.239 It's not like he was. 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.239 So it's not like he was coming in with a 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.520 ton of experience. So I definitely cut him a little 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.520 bit of slack. But I don't know if you guys 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.640 are you guys are familiar When you have a table read, 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.800 you're simply reading. I mean, you don't even have to 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.719 make eye contact with the person you're in a love 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.160 scene with. You can simply just look at your sides. 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.440 So I was doing the date rape sceneity he started 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:04.200 raping me, not literally, like literally like groping me and 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:05.840 trying to kiss me, and I was, you know, the 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.040 whole take. The whole room went crazy. It's like a 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.439 bunch of NBC exacts and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, Wow, 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.160 is just a fucking table read. He's gonna kill me. 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:16.480 It's not really bad. 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:17.560 It didn't. 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:22.960 It didn't go too far, didn't go to listening, but 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:23.759 you were. 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:24.600 Always invited to question. 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:26.560 Somebody always said something, you know, what I. 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.279 Mean as soon as you I just you know what, 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.200 It's okay, He's a god. 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.680 I still love that. I still love that movie. 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.080 On stage. Yes, Chappelle's Black Party, Yeah, it's a Chappelle's. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:46.840 Uh. When we were shooting Dave Schapelle's Black Party in Brooklyn, Yeah, he. 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.279 Like say something about him. 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.360 He's so handsome. Still still still. 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:51.719 You know he. 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:54.319 Keeps it. 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.560 Like when you like, just hear what he said, did 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.879 the see you miss it joint? Talking to me? That's 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.439 he's Roselle's cousin. So is Roselle's cousin. 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:12.040 Yeah, So he invited him on stage and then like 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.800 next thing, you know, he's doing karate with the microphone. 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.800 Brownouse kicks and everything, Brown House in the microphone. It 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.880 was you were up there too. I don't remember that ship. 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.800 He was on stage like he and but Loud was 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.680 like singing back and forth at the end when it 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:29.920 just kind of all just went. 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:30.960 Did I know you back then? 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:31.560 Yeah? 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.680 Yeah, I was a little brother fan this. 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:34.120 Yeah. 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.680 Now you didn't get me in. I got in through 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.120 other means of subterfuge. 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.319 Remember him and Rosario on stage and then he roundhoused 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.760 Rosario's shoulder. 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.200 And then it was like, all right, all right, get 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.640 off the stage. You get this on tape. I was 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:56.160 definitely on tape. Yes, definitely, he's gonna feel that beautiful moment. 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.799 We were doing whom he says with most and then 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.719 he gets on stage and fighting the wind and then 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.960 he just starts roundhouse kicking, and then he roundhouse kicked 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.719 the microphone standing and then brown house kick and it 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:15.960 was like, all right, okay, get out the pool. Damn 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.040 now you brought that up like I remember them, had 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:19.759 to jump through. 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:20.520 The top of the. 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:25.439 Wait ready weight. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.920 Yeah, and he was so cool because he had like 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.200 a whole crush on him but he can't even though 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.480 he wasn't knowing her like that. And I was in 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.480 that dress, that purple dress viole. 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.080 I used to Okay, so which episode who time act 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.120 was a date rapist? Which one was the episode with 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.719 Shaza with Gary. 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:46.040 Quite a few off? 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:47.480 He remember he became my man. 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.720 And Byron's almost wedding. 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.360 Yeah, we were, we were together. 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:57.640 He was right, that's right, that's right. 0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.600 I remember sha He was like the hotel dude speeches 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.960 and ship like he was like people dying that the 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.799 kids are going to sleep into something. 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:13.279 But oh, gel now, but shas started really sideways. He 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.839 started first with this whole book that he had written 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.719 about misunderstanding how the chicks were supposed to cater to 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:24.440 their dudes. He came in sideways, but he was so fine. 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.120 No one gave a. 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:30.319 Ship off up until five years ago. 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:30.840 That was. 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.120 The era, and that's what he. 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:38.719 Understanding. 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.480 Where is she now? Is she dead? 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:42.320 No? 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.399 She he did? 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:45.320 She did. 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:47.200 Now. 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.560 I thought she was there, but I don't know. I 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:50.680 don't know. I can't say for sure. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.520 Then I got to look her up. Yeah, shares out Ali. Wow, man, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:00.840 many many dining you appearance, no. 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.120 Reason that's. 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.400 After Well, you know, I know college isn't supposed to 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:11.000 go on forever, so I guess having a good five 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:12.640 year one was good enough for the show. 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.040 But I think it should have gone long. But you know, 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.440 they just didn't give a ship about it. I'm telling you, man, 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:18.759 we were really a step child. 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.239 We really did you like the storyline of you kind 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.200 of straightened up and flying. 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.600 It was literally paved paradise and put up a parking lot. 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.279 And it just bummed me out because even Friday and 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.120 they flirted what was doing. 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:44.799 And it was weird. I never got behind. It was yeah, 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:52.480 it was unforn you got all this. I want to 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.160 do a Different World trivia. 0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.080 Four hours a day, four hours a day. I've been 0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.680 watching a Different World for. 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.880 Hours a day because like, once it comes on, you know, 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.080 you can't turn off because there's no commercials in between 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.600 TV shows now because they show all the credits super fast. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.440 You got to wear a diaper and it's like, you know, 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:12.759 in one episode, you have. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.520 Time to change the channel before the next episode starts. 0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:21.840 So it's like, is this episode I'm gonna watch? No, 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:22.680 it's on TV one. 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.279 Did you'll hear who or Hulu? 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.239 Did y'all hear what you said? I just said, I said, Bill, 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.000 I want battle you. She said, they have those. 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.280 There is a Different World trivia game by this company 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.360 called Cards for the Culture, and they have a Martin 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:34.040 Trivia game. 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.240 They have a Different World Trivia. 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:36.000 Actually they got. 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:40.800 On your team because you know everything. 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.359 Yeah, I love that show Man. So after the show, 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:47.520 did you. 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.080 Were you interested in doing more live action things or 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.879 was it just like you had a comfort zone with well, 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:55.480 you know, the. 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.040 Whole time I was on a Different World. I had 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:57.680 just started. 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.360 I had just started a rock band called Subject to 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:04.480 Change and we were assigned to Capitol Records and on 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.000 hiatus we had done tour, I don't know, we did 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.680 like seven or eight months with Fishbone, and I remember 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:12.879 coming here. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.160 Whatever the first year of Different World was was when 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:18.239 I did Subject to Change. 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.480 So doing like the whole Truth and Soul era fishone. 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.680 It was definitely truth and Soul. Yeah, that's what That's 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:23.719 what we were, That's what we were touring. 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.040 Yeah. Yeah, how chaotic was that. 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.279 I was engaged to fish at the time, and it 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:33.160 was crazy. I was yeah for years. Yeah, we were 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.040 together for years. 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.800 I never knew that it was crazy. 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:41.640 If you know, yeah, then you know it was crazy. 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:47.520 And then I remember that that was what I wanted 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.239 to do the most. That's why I came to LA 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:50.920 was to be a musician. It was never to be 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:56.160 an actress. And it was I really thought, I would, 0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:01.880 you know, afford this music with acting. And I remember 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.000 when Capitol Records just dropped us. 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.560 They dropped us before the album even came out, and 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:07.959 I was so disillusioned. 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.120 So I went and did another series called Sweet Justice 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.200 with Cecily Tyson and Melissa Gilbert, and you remember that, Yeah, 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:16.960 you do it. 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:17.680 It was. 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.719 It was a sweet little thing though. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:25.680 Yeah, and after that, I just was, you know, writing 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.600 a little bit and then doing mostly voiceovers. At the 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.320 time I remember that was that was when I just 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.880 went into a really dark period. I was really crestfallen 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:36.279 about that. 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:36.560 Man. 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.279 I couldn't get my shit together. 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.640 On the back end of that, on the back end 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:41.360 of a different. 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:43.919 Subject to change. 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:45.600 Yeah, on the back end of that, because you know, 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.200 we had toured that record almost two years straight, and 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.240 that was when Capital was under this guy named Hal Milgram, 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.759 and he really loved music. I mean, I'd never been 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.600 to like, you know, had a CEO who was always 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.760 at the fucking gig, you know, and we were just nothing. 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.520 We were just we were like, you know, an all 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.000 black rock band, and at that time there was oh 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:10.680 my god, we had drums, keys, two guitars, sat had 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:15.680 one man sack horn section, and uh, I think we're 0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:16.920 like six six pieces. 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.600 Yeah, I'm surprised that the producers of a different world 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.200 than trying to figure out a way to ease in 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:21.520 your story. 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.040 Like the guest Freddy was not supposed to dance, know 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:29.520 how to dance or sing? Yeah, comes I had to 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:30.560 do my best time. 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.520 That they try me in the background episode. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:39.600 Yeah, and Lisa doesn't want to get married. Yeah, here 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.359 comes a bro. 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.520 I know he's got it all, but I mean, and 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.960 then after that, I just did animation, animation until finally 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.240 getting over it and getting to do a solo album 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:52.879 on work Group. 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:54.600 How did you and lady hook up for that? 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.120 Well, you know, I met I can't call I met Lisa. 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.840 I met Lisa when I was doing Different World, probably 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.520 the first season. Uh, Kadiem and I were dating when 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:07.399 we did Different World. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:08.320 That was that was. 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.120 That was my boyfriend for about god. We were together, 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:12.960 I don't know, three years, four years. 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:16.120 I did. 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.440 Duyne. We're together. We were together almost the entire run, 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:24.719 I guess, not together the last year. 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:25.799 Is that hard? 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.680 Like mhm, I hate okay. I always use this term, 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.480 but I mean it rather in a polite way. 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.640 Is that not weird? Shitting? 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.120 Where you eat first, it's delightful, then it's then it 0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.920 is ship Where you eat you know what I mean? 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.520 Tastes good, then you don't want to eat it? 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.920 Well, just working on TV, you know, like I know 0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.480 that there's a lot of temptation to because you spend 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:52.640 a lot of hours. 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:59.040 But Smiley, damn, that just slipped out. 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:03.600 Sorry, Tavis Valley, I'm waiting on he's been quiet lately, 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.399 but sorry he edit that out. 0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:11.759 I gotta say something in that in Kadeem's defense, because 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.880 Kadeem was really my first real boyfriend, and he was 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:20.360 an amazing boyfriend. I mean, we rode motorcycles together. We 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.320 I remember, I remember I told him one time we 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:24.759 had just gotten together. I told him I love this 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.640 comic book Deathlock, and he one of our first dates 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.760 was driving all over the city getting all ten issues 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.920 because I think Marvel had only done ten issues, man, 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.200 and he got them all. 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:39.200 And going, you know like it was. It was super sweet. 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:39.719 I mean, just. 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:44.680 Imagine being young and never having a real, real adult 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:45.840 romantic relationship. 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.279 It was really a nice way to enter into what 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:49.919 love is about. 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.240 Wait time, all over the city. Where did you get shoot? 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.040 We shot at CBS Radford in the valley. Yeah, but 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.719 we had to go to you know, all the comic 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.600 book shops to maybe one. 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:03.440 Shop had one issue, one shove had two. Oh no. 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.919 We shot in La Yeah, in the valley, in the valley. 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:07.919 See this is ill because now it's like a whole 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.120 different idea of who you guys behind the scenes, and 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.080 even when you mentioned Lisa in our minds as you 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.839 guys never were on the same show at the same time. 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.440 Is so ill she was. 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.320 To get back to what you said, Amya, she was. 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.960 She was very good friends with Kadeen because of their 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:29.120 first season, and I was in I think, yeah, I 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.360 was in my band at the time, and I remember 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.560 Kadeen was like, you gotta let love rule had not 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.839 come out, he was, you know, and he was like, man, 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.400 you got to meet my friend Lenny, and you gotta 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.839 meet Lisa. I think you guys will love each other. 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.560 And I remember them. They came over and Zoe was 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:50.080 so tiny, and I remember I played I Think you 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.440 want to know something crazy Lenny. Lenny had never heard 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.279 Carnival Leon Russell's album, he'd never heard tight Rope, he'd 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.759 never heard Out in the Wood, which at the time, 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.920 I was, you know, my whole life obsessed with. And 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.759 I remember playing it for him and we had a 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.840 real connection. I mean, and with Lila Quoy and with 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:12.279 Lisa and I we had a very instant love at 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:12.719 first sight. 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:13.760 That is my sister. 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:14.520 I will. 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.080 I can't say enough about how deeply I love her. 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.319 So anyway, that's how we all came together was all 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:21.359 through Kadeen. Thank god. 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:29.279 I'm jealous that that Zoe was the second person to 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.600 ever hear public enemies. It takes a nation of millions 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:33.239 to hold us back. 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.719 Was she really the day that Lenny was done with 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:42.560 making uh rule? Where is the day that pe was 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.440 mastering Nation of Millions? She don't remember that shit? 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:52.040 And so no, well, there's a story that I think 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.120 Lenny tells of like they really loved black Stiel in 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.680 the Our Chaos, So they like played it three times 0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.320 in a row. That was like Lisa's favorite one, and 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.719 they kept playing it like they felt the baby vibrating. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:07.239 Oh sweet, Yeah, crazy was jealous, something like, damn, you 0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.520 don't even know anything about that record. 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.040 You were there for it. You know. How did you 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.520 go about getting your deal? It was with work. 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.520 Yeah, how did that go? That is Jeff are off. 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:21.080 And I just remember. 0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:25.400 I was shopping for a record at the time, you know, 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.520 or trying to get a deal, and I was getting 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.080 a lot of doors closed in my face. 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:30.880 It just they just didn't want the music. 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:35.919 And then Lilakoy or Lisa gave my like a three 0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.880 song demo to Lenny, and Lenny went crazy. 0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.319 He was like, I love this ship. I'll produce this ship. 0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.759 And then I think I had a meeting with Work 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.840 Group and my manager at the time said, Lenny Kravitz 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:48.680 will produce it, and they were like, well we you know, 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.000 we started with Lenny at Virgin and they were like, 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:51.600 let's do this. 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.560 So, I mean, I went to the only place that 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.759 really wanted it. And that's the truth, man. I mean 0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:04.120 my money, yeah, you and twelve others that well, you know, 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.000 you know that record really was a bonafide flop. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.240 You know you gave me that record. 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:11.160 Is that why I don't have it anymore? 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.560 You gave me that record, and you gave me some 0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:20.040 group one talking loud. I forget the japan Japanese group. 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.759 I'm so glad you don't smoke yoo. Yeah. 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:28.400 But United Future Organism, Yes, there you go. You gave me, 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:32.120 you gave me crazy record, and you gave me United 0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:33.319 Future Organization work. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.400 I mean, sometimes I don't know the worst, but I 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:35.960 know what I like. 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.840 You used to host a Sunday radio program that was 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.000 sort of like the percursor The Quest of Supreme line. 0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:44.520 She was. She was the you. 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:55.920 Yeah long time ago, yeah, when she was six years old, 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.759 nineteen ninety four, go mama, yeah, Mean Sleep. 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.240 How did that come together? 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.440 Oh gosh, I love that song. 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.880 You know, that's a funny one because I did not 0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.400 have the nerve to ask Lenny to do a duet, 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:13.160 and we were we were Mean Sleep was Oh no, no, 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.600 that's deliciously down Mean Sleep. 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:16.400 I remember we were. 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.279 We recorded the whole thing at Compass Point in now 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.600 saw Bahamas, So talk about spoiled. I mean, what a 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:26.680 magical place to be recording. And I think even the 0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.960 mandolin was Jimmy Page's mandolin that we used, and it's 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.640 just so many little, you know, ancient magic things that 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:38.080 went down in that studio. And I remember we're sitting 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.440 at the control uh, sitting at the controls and I 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:41.239 said we were. 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.759 Getting to Mean Sleep. And I said, man, you know, 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.400 who are we going to get to do this duet? Thinking? 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:52.319 Please, please, please please feel this desperation I'm shooting at you, ma'am, 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.040 and uh, I said, you know, I guess I could 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.160 get You just have to be someone really good, man. 0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.759 It has to be something really fucking good. And he goes, well, 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.320 I'm going to do it. Of course, you know. 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.840 So that was but I really didn't know if he 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:04.480 was going to do it. 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.319 You know, when did you like your songs? How did 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:08.920 you write them? Did you write on the instrument or 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:09.279 did you just. 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:13.480 Want Really I'm really a shitty guitar player. Uh just 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:17.560 kind of plunk it out. But I mostly write melody 0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.719 and lyric on my own, and then I bring it 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:22.960 to whoever I'm writing with and I just sing it 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.080 to them. I tell them what I wanted to sound like. 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.919 Have you and Zoe ever had a musical moment? Yes, 0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:29.440 we did, save you. 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.960 Save Yourself, that's right. I wrote this song called save 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.000 Yourself and she was in the video. 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.359 Yeah, and we had was in the video. There's there's 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:39.759 I assume that's three versions of you like you. 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:40.600 That's what it was. 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.200 And then who's the Because are my two other god children? 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:48.120 That is Stry Sunshine and Body La La, two daughters 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.560 of Hayes Rosen good good good friend of mine. 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:52.359 Man. When I have kids, I'm gonna have y' all 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:53.000 name them. 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.520 My pleasure her kids. 0:52:55.560 --> 0:53:00.880 They sound like action heroes, sound like Marvel characters, and 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:01.680 it's so great. 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.920 I mean, just that you don't have to be like 0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.800 everybody else. You don't have to be to be Steve. 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:07.319 Yeah. 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:12.480 Sorry, tell us. 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:13.759 More about your friend Zoe. 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.359 Oh he's yeah, O yeah. 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:28.919 Yeah. 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.640 The greatst Zoe Steve movement was Zoe jumped out of 0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.600 a moving car that Steve was driving because she. 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:42.160 Could take She jumped out. 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.520 No, she jumped out because she saw standing on the corner. 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:47.880 Yeah, but that was all she needed. 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:51.920 She's like, like, we're driving up sixth Avenue, Steve's going 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:57.799 like thirty miles an hour, just like, yeah, jump out 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:58.560 of the car. 0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:04.120 Talking, you know. Then headlines read engineer wrestled for Zoey 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:07.160 Kravitz mishaf that was her fault. 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.520 I miss you guys are fighting like cats and dogs. 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.239 Man, excuse me, sir. Later, are we gonna do rapid fire? 0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.799 Different world questions? Because more to go? I just wanted 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.200 to know. Okay, So. 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:22.960 Me and my mom were talking about the HIV AIDS 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.600 episode the other I wanted you to talk about it 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.200 and the filming and if you guys were there moments 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:29.239 of tears because t. 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:34.560 Shir Yeah, she destroyed that didn't Well, here's the skinny 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:34.880 about that. 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:35.200 Ship. 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:37.720 You guys got to remember, at that time, you couldn't 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:42.680 even talk about sex. Censorship was so intense, man. You 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:46.759 couldn't show a condom. You had to imply that it 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.080 was in your purse and describe it as best you could. 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.000 And this is at a time when masses we're dying 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.640 of fucking age. I mean, just you know, when you 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.360 weigh that out, it's just so sad. You know that 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:03.399 the right, the Christian right, will will just not give 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:06.080 us shit about it, to the point where they'll censor 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.720 these very important things that can save so many lives. 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:12.040 So we were in tears about so many things. And 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:15.840 I attribute that to Debbie Allen. Debbie Allen came in 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:19.320 and she said, you can't have a show about a 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:23.720 black college and not address the social issues taking place, 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.839 because it's always the children. It's always the young people 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.280 that are going to yell up and rise and protest. 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:34.320 And that's how that episode came, you know, And the 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:38.000 original episode was even deeper. I mean, you know, I 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.920 mean she had you know, people were dropping condoms. You know, 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.640 we were trying to get this message across. But it 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.759 was very tight, man, It was very tight. Then only 0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.440 so much you could say, so, I think she did 0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.960 an incredible job. I really give hats off to Susan 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:56.400 Failes and Debbie Allen and navette Lee Bouser. Yeah, these listen. 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.040 Can you guys imagine what it was like. We had 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.200 people on this show like Lena Horn and Richard Rowntree 0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:03.280 and Joseph. 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:05.520 Carroll and Diane. 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:07.680 Such a pie. 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.080 I mean, like, you know, TV one actually did a 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:12.640 marathon of just Patty LaBelle episodes. 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.320 Oh I love it, but I have to say that, 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:20.280 you know, you got you gotta understand that these actors 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:22.920 had never been some some of these actors had had 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:26.560 to enter the soundstage from the back, you know, and 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.480 they were coming to different world. They were driving on 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.120 through the fucking front and they were greeted by the 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:34.560 executive producer and creator who's a black woman. And then 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.839 they look over and the director is a black woman. 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:38.640 And then at the start of the fucking show is 0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.480 a black woman. And everybody working the cameras and everybody 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:46.600 doing fucking craft service away. It was you know, I 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:49.440 remember sitting with Diane Carroll and you know her, the 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:51.600 stories that they would tell us, and they would almost 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:51.840 be in. 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:55.520 Tears they would say, you guys have no idea. We didn't. 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:56.960 We could never envision this. 0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.879 Who you know, who is she the mother of dying 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:01.160 here Whitley? 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:03.479 Yeah, she was Whitley's okay. 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.880 And Ron O'Neill was her father, depending what season. 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.720 It was, Yeah, ron. 0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:11.640 Out. 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:12.719 Yeah, we had to shaft down. 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:18.640 Yeah everybody. Yeah, he's daddy. 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.280 Now he's being Mary Jans somebody daddy. 0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:28.160 Now he's on Richard that Cobbler. 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:34.000 I'm just leaving space for you. Okay, I'll jump in 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:37.120 when I need to, Okay. So I could do this 0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:37.560 all time. 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.280 So how did you feel about now the brother the 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.120 brother storyline, the white brother's story. 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:46.640 I thought he was our brothers, like. 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:49.160 You talk about Matthew. 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.720 Yeah, Matthew, I can't hear you louder. That's all I 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:53.240 think when when I hear Matthew. 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:53.920 Okay. 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.720 So I also wanted to ask you when the new 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.040 cast came, not the new cast, but when the dis 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.560 freshman new freshman freshman, you know Jada p. 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:02.480 Robinson. 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:06.640 Can I tell you, guys, here's a little known fact. 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:07.200 Bomber. 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:09.360 Robinson is a very big voice of her actor and 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:13.600 he kicks assay. 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.439 Yeah, he was Dorian, Dorian. 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.680 The one that wouldn't sleep with Yeah, that's right, that's right, 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:20.360 she couldn't take it. 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.960 Man. That's not on a Different World question, but on 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.680 a Jada Pinkey question, did you guys bond rock and roll? 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:26.680 Wise behind? 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.480 She wasn't doing rock and roll at the time. I 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:29.880 don't even think she listened to rock and roll all 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.640 the time. I don't think so, I don't remember that anyway. 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:38.080 Yeah, you guys, ever see Seinfeld. 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:42.320 Whip it out, whip it out? 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:53.800 Playing What what's your favorite episode of the Different World. 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:58.080 That's such a good question. I'm going to say the 0:58:58.120 --> 0:58:59.960 one that everybody loves this stuffing show is. 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.400 Stepping Show is my favorite stepping show? 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.640 That the Do you know why the Stepping Show is 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:06.080 my favorite? 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:15.920 Freddie couldn't get the step, yes, Gilbert. 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.520 So anyway, why I loved it was because, like I said, 0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:22.160 Freddie was supposed to be such an inconfident when it 0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:26.280 came to singing and dancing. And so when we got 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.360 to the actual dance routine. You know, my mother's a dancer, 0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:31.920 and so I was doing the dance routine all out 0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:33.520 and I kept saying, I'll suck it up in the show, I'll. 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.440 Up in the show. And then I think it was 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:38.320 Debbie or somebody said just let her get it because 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:43.080 it'll be so much more rewarding if Freddy gets the dance. Yeah, 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.560 So I don't know. I'm just it's a special one 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:45.840 for me. 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:49.800 You got more different world questions. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:51.240 I don't have to. 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:55.240 I was just going to ask you in retrospect the episode. 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:59.439 The episode was where it's really focused on you and Jasmine, well, 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.440 you and Whit and Roslyn Cash. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.720 Yeah, talk about Oh my god, can I talk about 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:07.680 ros Can I just tell you that the minute she 1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:12.320 walked in, what a goddess and what a life and 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:16.080 you know, just her telling us stories about the movies 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:19.120 that she did, and I don't know, she was like 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:21.000 the kind of person you just were dying to hang 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:22.800 out with on purpose, you know, I just wanted to 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.440 go get a drink with and she cussed like a sailor. 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:26.480 That's my kind of fraud. 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.280 It was delightful to work with Roslyn and Jazzy. Jasmine 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.440 is one of my favorite people on the planet, and 1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:36.760 we were and still are very much in love. Our 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:39.400 firstborn daughters are born on the same day. 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:41.760 Oh yeah, and. 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.920 Album I wrote a song for her album. 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.600 She let me write a song everybody knows my name. 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:56.360 Oh yeah, real, real good song, tray Ma. 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:04.840 We've inspired me. I remember, just like thinking, God, I 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.120 hope my band gets a deal. I hope we get 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:07.560 to do this. 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:09.919 When we found out that Jazmine Guy Guy was working 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.640 with full Force, we were like, you know, this is 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:13.400 going to be crazy. 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:18.240 What was the white chicken face? It's Samantha. It was 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:23.560 just like tits on a chin. She was amazing. It 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:26.520 was like a second period. 1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:29.600 Jazmine would always remind you of her talent, like you 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:32.760 see her dancing and the lift up video. 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:33.960 You know she dances. 1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:37.919 Jazzy is no joke, and let's give kudos to the woman. 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:41.840 She's written books, she directs and writes and produces plays. 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:47.360 She doesn't did she write a book with a phoenix about. 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:50.880 Well? 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:53.600 Since we're in a different world, I have a slight question. 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:56.760 Whatever happened to the character of Millie. 1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.480 I loved you too. I thought she was the sweetest 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:06.120 little thing. 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.400 Little thing when Ron was still the dork h the 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:09.960 first season. 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:14.480 I liked Million That's a character they could have kept, Yea. 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:18.160 I hate Steve right now he's making fun of it. 1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:20.720 It's a great watched it. 1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:22.080 I watched it a little bit. 1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:24.480 I did a little bit. 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.600 You were talking about roseland Cash. What was she like. 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:30.680 I mean, she's just like a down sister. She was 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:35.640 funny and she was really generous with herself. She spent 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:37.920 time with us. You know, we got to eat with 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:39.920 her and talk with her and ask her lots of questions. 1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:44.320 She never got tired, and she gets distillertful air her. 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.840 We didn't do that with her, but we certainly did 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:49.720 that a lot. I mean, I have to vuye honest 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:51.560 with you. I don't even remember the last season. I 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.200 was so drunk out and drunk down. I mean, I 1:02:55.040 --> 1:02:56.880 you know, Jasmine and I used to go across to 1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:59.240 this place called a Votre Sante that was like right across. 1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:01.200 We taped two show, so you tape one show in 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:03.640 the day, then you have dinner, and then you come 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:04.439 back and tape it again. 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:07.680 So you know, our theory was same show. 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:10.040 Twice and then they well, then they've edited and see 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:12.600 what's the best from both shows, because most shows had 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.960 a live audience, and they say, you know, what's the best. 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:16.800 We'll take the scene from the first show. This scene 1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:19.560 from the second show. But by the last season, I 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.680 was already on tour with subject to change in my mind. 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:24.560 I was bylocating, you know what I mean. I was 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:26.840 so ready to go do this thing that I've always 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:30.080 wanted to do. Jazzy had a record coming out, you know, 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:31.200 Kadem was about. 1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:33.320 To do a big movie. We were really like, you 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:38.439 know what I think he was about, You like, white 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:49.280 men can't jump for something. We couldn't wait to. 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.520 Get the fuck out of there, you know, just in retrospect, 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:53.520 what a bunch of dumb ass in grades, you know. 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:58.160 But but last year was so well we, like I said, 1:03:58.200 --> 1:03:59.960 we taped the first episode. Then Jazzy and I would 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:01.680 go to this little shitty restaurant and we would get 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:03.320 as drunk as we fucking could, and then we go 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:04.080 back and do the. 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:06.800 Tape the last episode. So when I see a lot 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:09.480 of those shows, it's it's wonderful. It's the first time. 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:15.720 It was that wedding episode, and it was much fun 1:04:15.800 --> 1:04:17.360 filming as it is as much fun. 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:19.520 No, it was awful. 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:23.360 It was awful, you know, because that was awful because 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:25.439 you got to understand as much as we were ready 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.560 to leave that show just fucking ended. It ended with 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:32.880 a thud, and it we didn't know why it ended, 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:35.439 you know, as far as we knew, we were still 1:04:35.640 --> 1:04:38.120 going strong everybody loves you and blah blah blah, and 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.200 all of a sudden, it was like it's over, you know. 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:43.880 And so that wedding episode, no cake, no nothing, no 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:46.200 fucking party. Just don't let the door hits you on 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:49.560 the way out, man, And we really didn't. Yeah, it 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:50.920 came up. It was like, all of a sudden, oh, 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:53.160 this is the last episode. Oh okay, we'll get them. 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:55.160 You better get them, get them together, better make it 1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:55.760 a wedding, you know. 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:58.400 Oh wait, okay, yeah that was it. 1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:00.120 You talking about the fake out, Well. 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:06.040 You're talking about the funk autum. Know that episode was 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:11.880 amazing because when he said please, the audience went fucking. 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:16.600 Correctly crazy in your body because that's your man, Like yes, baby, no, no, 1:05:19.600 --> 1:05:19.959 I went. 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:20.840 To I'm sorry. 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:30.320 Someone someone, someone y'all know of, once gave this episode 1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:35.040 as a reference to me, uh to go grab my woman. 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:40.560 I really don't grab your woman. 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.960 Is this the Rick James story? No, no, no, no, 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:48.320 it's it's someone else has done that. I'll mention off 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:49.400 the off the air. 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:53.240 This was someone called someone kind of me and was like, yo, man, 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:56.040 He's like, I already know who the call is. 1:05:56.200 --> 1:05:57.080 Something's happening. 1:05:57.360 --> 1:05:59.920 And if I was you, I'd be on that dwing win, 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:01.880 I get on the plane right now, come out here 1:06:01.920 --> 1:06:04.160 and grab your one like Dwayne Wayne at Whitley's wedding. 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:08.040 Like they used this thing as as an example. Yeah, 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:12.720 so that was a great episode. I'm so. 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:14.680 Curious. 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:18.520 It's brilliant. 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:21.480 Yes, he is as well. Well, all right, let me 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:21.720 get you. 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:23.560 So I'm ready, Steve, because I can tell you about 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:25.280 to say something off the off the change. 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:28.440 I'm good, I'm good. Okay, we're done with Different World though, 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:31.680 because I watched it a little bit. 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:34.160 But not like which episode did you study it? Which 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:35.320 episode was it that you saw? 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:37.240 What was what was a perfect episode? 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:37.520 Yeah? 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:42.680 I was watch for Alicia Bonet and Jasmine guy. 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.000 You know they weren't there at the same time. 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:45.400 I thought they were. 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:49.720 Yeah, yeah they were they were first season. 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:52.640 Yeah, I watched the first season and that's pretty much it. 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:56.760 You're still keep in touch with everybody, uh, the cast? 1:06:57.360 --> 1:07:01.120 Yes you do, Yeah, there's not there's Yeah, I got 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:01.600 to say. 1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:05.720 The most memorable moment I've ever had in my career 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:09.600 doing chows. It was like when the twelve of you 1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:15.520 showed up, Like imagine in like nineteen ninety four and 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:19.960 you're doing your first show in Los Angeles, California, and 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:25.840 then like it's Cree and it's Lisa, and it's Jasmine 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:29.440 and it's Jada and Latifa. 1:07:30.560 --> 1:07:31.160 Light was there too. 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:35.480 Yeah, it was right. And what's her name? She was 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:37.120 the eighteen t girls. She y had short. 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:40.000 That's my best friend. That's what I'm talking about tomorrow. Yeah, 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:44.760 we moved here together from Toronto. That's that's the godmother 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:45.400 and my children. 1:07:45.480 --> 1:07:47.520 Now, I loved it for so long. 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:50.800 Man, she just did a twelve year bid on Bones one. 1:07:50.840 --> 1:07:55.640 Oh no, no, no, I mean that's how long the show. 1:07:56.680 --> 1:08:02.040 Sorry God, sorry. 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:05.760 Yo, that night. Yeah, we were never the same. 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:08.800 We just thought because I mean we just thought, like, yo, 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:11.600 the sky's a limit, Like you know, our first show in. 1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:16.320 All of Black Hollywood is out here for us. 1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:20.040 But you know what, we I am such a diehard 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:23.040 roots fan. I mean we were so fucking excited. 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:23.120 To be there. 1:08:23.320 --> 1:08:26.680 Oh man, that made Yeah, I'll say that of all 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:29.240 I mean we've done, I think we're up to like 1:08:29.439 --> 1:08:30.599 forty five hundred shows. 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:34.120 But that that to me is that's a top tip memory. 1:08:34.439 --> 1:08:36.280 Whenever I get together and there's a picture taken, I 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:37.320 feel like y'all break the internet. 1:08:37.479 --> 1:08:41.080 So yeah, we hang out on purpose, you know. 1:08:41.560 --> 1:08:43.800 I think it has to do with just that we 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:47.280 were you know, really there weren't a lot of black 1:08:47.320 --> 1:08:50.519 people on TV, and we were a part of such 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:53.440 a movement. And like I said, when you're an underdog, 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:56.800 you know you really you're bind together. You know, you 1:08:56.920 --> 1:09:01.400 got become really resilient and really strong. And I think 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:03.840 that that's another beautiful thing about that show. 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:09.200 Is it really created you know, lifelong friendships, youts, you 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:11.639 know that. Yeah, but they'd never touched this one. It's 1:09:11.680 --> 1:09:12.679 such a weird thing. 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:15.680 I just don't understand, no, no, what you can do 1:09:15.880 --> 1:09:18.799 without us. I mean, you don't wheel out the fucking ancients. 1:09:18.920 --> 1:09:21.479 I mean, bring us some new blood. How many wants 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:24.800 to see our But that's white people. They can bring 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:25.639 back anything. 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:28.439 O L E. R. 1:09:30.800 --> 1:09:32.439 I mean they went to Japan and what happened, That's 1:09:32.479 --> 1:09:33.080 all I'm saying. 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:37.080 Yeah, yeah, they bring it back to with like with 1:09:37.320 --> 1:09:38.320 young young Blood. 1:09:38.400 --> 1:09:40.280 To build on that question, where do you think Freddy 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:40.840 Brooks would be? 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:43.680 Right now, Freddie might have well, god, you know, the 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:45.639 unfortunate thing she had to become a lawyer. But maybe 1:09:45.680 --> 1:09:48.560 she used that, you know, maybe maybe she started you know, 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:50.920 a couple of lovely organizations. I'd like to think that 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:53.000 she went back to school and started teaching, maybe had 1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:55.760 like fifteen kids or something crazy, you know, because I 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:57.880 just always thought she was such a mother nature and 1:09:58.000 --> 1:09:59.760 so nurturing, and I think she'd have to have a 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:02.600 lot babies just because she have such an overabundance of 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:06.840 love and compassion, and I think she would change things, 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:10.760 you know, because she did. This character was very inspiring. 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:13.479 You know, I have moments sometimes my mama we call 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.040 her hell Cat. Sometimes she come to La and visit 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.280 and we'll see, you know, a couple of cute little 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.519 young things, and she'll say, oh, look at those two Freddy's, 1:10:20.600 --> 1:10:22.960 you know, and it's just you know, they'll have their 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:25.519 you know, hair all the wild, and they'll just be 1:10:25.840 --> 1:10:31.160 dressed like like more like themselves than ever before, you know, 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:34.839 just being themselves powerfully. And I think that's what Freddie 1:10:34.880 --> 1:10:38.519 gave us, because at that time, there were no let's 1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:40.800 face it. There were no black chicks that didn't. You know, 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:42.439 we were all part of that time where it was 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:44.519 so important to look like everybody else and be like 1:10:44.600 --> 1:10:47.599 everybody else, and especially on television, it was really important 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:50.880 to fit into some kind of caricature. And let's face 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:53.519 it that there were Freddi's that existed all over the 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:56.640 world that were so isolated and alone and then they 1:10:56.720 --> 1:10:59.280 saw this character and they were like, oh fuck, there's me, 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:02.519 you know, And that's why I love her. 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:04.559 I mean, I just think special. 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:08.360 If she was on Freddy Brooks in twenty eighteen, would 1:11:08.360 --> 1:11:09.800 be your Instagram honey. 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:13.360 Oh please, don't she like. 1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:17.800 Not a scammer like, but she would be like she 1:11:17.880 --> 1:11:20.960 would be the Freddy Brooks. She would be the YouTube 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:23.200 hair girl, like showing how to do the curls like. 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:25.559 She has. 1:11:26.680 --> 1:11:28.840 I think she'd have more important things to do. 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:32.639 I do think she'd be back with she'd had babies, 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:36.400 just to have all the good she'd ye because ronn 1:11:36.400 --> 1:11:37.240 ain't having all them kids. 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:42.639 Wasn't need to be two months ago. 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:44.479 Yeah, she wouldn't be with him. 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:45.880 Do you guys know this? 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:48.240 Another fun fact is that Darryl Bell is in love 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:50.799 and been in love and living with tempest for a millionaires. 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:53.679 Yeah, I did a reality show. 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:58.479 Wow, Vanessa Hawks, they did a reality show. 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:04.679 Just your mind blown down your mind there, I'll say 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:05.719 this off the record. 1:12:05.880 --> 1:12:10.920 Yeah, okay, that explains why he was accompanying someone in 1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:11.599 the courtor. 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:15.839 Okay, okay, See. 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:17.360 Did you ever meet Bill Cosby? 1:12:17.520 --> 1:12:18.719 I did for about ten minutes. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:20.160 I was gonna say if it was just for a 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:22.559 few minutes, and then everything goes went black. 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:31.120 Yeah, nor the car. 1:12:31.400 --> 1:12:35.200 I eject myself from the understand though. 1:12:35.160 --> 1:12:39.320 You do. Now you see where the line. I knew 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:42.719 that it was coming. See see. 1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:46.200 How it's starting to he is laughing. 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.760 Now cut is Mike off? So but you only met 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:51.439 him once. That's what it was. 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:54.040 Very It was like it was like assembly, you know, 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:56.960 like the opening day when we first first started working 1:12:57.040 --> 1:12:59.920 on the show, and he came out and kind of 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.759 thanked everybody in the split was it was real short man, gotcha? 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:17.600 Okay, Now I want to know how hard is it? 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:21.280 Are you the only notable person of color in the 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:24.439 voiceover world during O No, no, No, I'm sorry, I'm 1:13:24.479 --> 1:13:25.200 not going to answer. 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:27.680 That for no, but there's there's there's a few of us, 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:29.439 but you know, not very many. I'll tell you there's 1:13:29.439 --> 1:13:31.920 probably about the three or four of us, or maybe 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:35.639 maybe five. The thing about the voiceover community is it's 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.960 so fucking small. It's like a click, you know, we've 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:40.240 got of you? 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:40.640 Or is it? 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:43.960 Oh there's less than that, Oh there's I mean, when I. 1:13:44.040 --> 1:13:46.160 Go to work, I probably see the same ten people 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:49.320 every time, and when we see a new person, we're like, 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:50.120 who the fuck is that? 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:51.639 Are you lost? 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.479 You know, No, we're not that mean, but I've seen 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:55.280 that looking the way back. 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:57.519 Is don still doing a lot of voice ess? 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:00.680 I think she still does. Yeah, I don't see very much. 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:07.120 Some other stuff she's done some really nice jobs. 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:11.479 I've just seen her in a movie, or she's something 1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:18.200 on Netflix lower, or it's just recently she was a 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:19.759 lawyer or something. 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:21.360 So I think I know what you're talking about. And 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:23.680 I can't remember it either. But I've seen it this 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:25.240 week and I was like, oh, my god, that's doing. 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:34.559 Noise, doesn't she She's definitely sacrificing children. She looks great. 1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:35.000 Man. 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:38.280 Are we ever going to see you back on the screen? 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:39.120 You know what? 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:42.760 Sometimes I sometimes I do do it for friends. I 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:44.920 have friends that will ask me I actually just did 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:48.240 a film for a friend and amazing writer named Charles Murray. 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:52.760 I just did a film for him. It's called Truth. 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:55.599 For Someone. 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:57.599 In terms of voice acting, because that's something that I'm 1:14:57.720 --> 1:14:58.439 looking to get into. 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:01.120 We do have a very nice voice. That's such a 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:02.120 pretty residence. 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:05.840 Thank you so much. What where's the starting point for that? 1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:06.320 Oh? 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:08.479 Boy, man, I gotta get real with you. It's so tough. 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:10.000 It's so tough to get into. 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:14.240 But I I can't really give you the same advice 1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:16.360 i'd give anybody else, because you know, the sound of 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:17.080 your own voice. 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.680 You do this all the time. I'd say, you just 1:15:19.800 --> 1:15:21.120 need to know somebody. 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:21.920 How you. 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:27.200 Who is who's the gatekeeper? 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:27.560 You know? 1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:31.600 I think it's probably the casting agents and the you know, 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:36.360 the different networks like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network and well. 1:15:36.320 --> 1:15:39.759 Actually, okay, I'll ask you a question. Yeah, I'm actually 1:15:40.800 --> 1:15:41.280 a little bit. 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:43.200 A sweating man. Hold on, I just got it. 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:45.679 Okay, all right, the thing you got, the wet and waving. 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:49.640 Yeah, I'm going listen, I'm going back home. I can 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:53.439 feel it in the back that is getting very very upset. 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:55.599 Yeah, the living room turn into the kitchen. 1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:59.080 Yes, okay, well, I'm in the process of developing two 1:15:59.120 --> 1:15:59.800 animated series. 1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:01.320 Are so is it? 1:16:02.520 --> 1:16:02.640 Oh? 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:06.360 Heying? But is there? 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:10.360 Is it kind of a mafia system? Like am I 1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:13.040 naive thinking like, oh, I'll choose who I want to 1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:13.639 do these voices? 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:20.000 All? No, no, you choose whoever you want and you'll 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:21.439 be just fine. It's not like that. 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:24.080 So it's not like a union where you have to choose. 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:27.400 Oh god, no, yes there is. 1:16:27.560 --> 1:16:30.200 And you watch Robot you watch Robot Chicken. They throw 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:32.439 anybody in their situation and it sounds really great. 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:36.120 Yeah, no, listen, it's it's definitely not. I think, honestly, 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.679 I think the reason that you see the same twelve 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:40.560 people this guys are really fucking good, that's all. And 1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:41.600 they're really dependable. 1:16:41.680 --> 1:16:41.800 You know. 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:43.960 It's like your studio musicians. You know, you got your 1:16:44.720 --> 1:16:47.439 your you know, like your your session, your session guys, 1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:49.280 you know, and I feel like we're the session. 1:16:49.040 --> 1:16:50.800 Guys, and it's hard and I feel like it's a 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.439 sacrifice sort of Like well, when I visited the settum 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:56.920 of Sesame Street, it was almost like the same thing. 1:16:57.040 --> 1:17:00.400 Like that's a very specific area that it's hard to 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:02.559 make a steady living and if you can. 1:17:02.960 --> 1:17:03.439 Get in there. 1:17:03.880 --> 1:17:05.320 Is it a good living for you now? 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:08.519 It's a wonderful living. Yeah, it's very nice. I mean, listen, 1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:11.479 I'm a mama. I started having babies real late. My 1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:15.400 children are really young, and I have time to hang 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:17.160 out with them. I have time to write music, I 1:17:17.240 --> 1:17:19.320 have time to do all kinds of things, and I 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.439 can still support myself, which is really nice. 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:24.320 So what is the average like a work week for 1:17:24.439 --> 1:17:25.320 you as a voice actor? 1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:28.120 Well, you know, I have shows that I'm a regular on. 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:29.880 I have a lot of shows that I reoccur on, 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:31.200 and then I have a lot of shows that I 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:34.439 just do guest spots on. So I have in your 1:17:34.479 --> 1:17:38.599 regular gigs, you have maybe two on Monday, one on Thursday, 1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:42.040 one on Friday, and then you'll have your reoccurring gigs 1:17:42.040 --> 1:17:45.080 that you do, you know, throughout the week too. I'd 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:46.880 say work maybe four or five times a day. 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:49.679 And do you find it's a difference between Cause it's funny. 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:52.040 I listen to you and I'm like, I've done voice 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:53.719 over work, but I feel like it's a difference between 1:17:53.720 --> 1:17:57.120 a voiceover actress and a voice over I want to say, announcer, 1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:00.080 like different things versus Yeah, and. 1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:02.280 You break that down to people, well, I think a 1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:06.200 voiceover a voice announcer, you're trying to do something that 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:08.760 is going to of course lure them in. And the 1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:11.679 only quality that one has to have is that cell 1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:15.280 sell sell ability and that likability. And of course, when 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.600 you're a voice over actress, you're playing characters, so likability 1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:20.800 and all those other things are not important. It's just 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:23.479 important that you're delivering a well rounded, believable character. 1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:26.719 How do you protect your voice? 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.040 I don't, man, I smoke weed, I smoke cigarettes. I 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.360 smoke I'll smoke you if you'll fit in this paper. 1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:37.960 But I you know, but so I don't. 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:38.400 I don't. 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:40.280 I don't take care of my voice. I'm an asshole 1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:42.720 when it comes to this voice. Man, I just go 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:46.200 really fucking hard. I mean, yeah, so I got no. 1:18:46.280 --> 1:18:47.520 Advice about. 1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:49.719 It works. 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.120 Well, you know, it's also just it's real Rasby and 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:54.240 it's always been and it's not going to clean up 1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:59.439 if I fly straight, you know, So why fat dairy? 1:18:59.800 --> 1:19:00.160 I do? 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:01.519 I do? 1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:01.880 Yeah? 1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:05.600 Yes, in my mind, I think everybody thinks, you know, 1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:07.400 sometimes I'll just have my face and a rib and 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:09.479 you know, a fan of walk By be like Oh 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:10.560 my god, Freddy. 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:13.960 You eat meat and I just think, yeah, I love it. 1:19:15.120 --> 1:19:15.639 What do you want? 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:15.920 Man? 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:21.160 What did you think of Nika and Van's cover of 1:19:21.280 --> 1:19:21.759 Me Sleep? 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:26.320 I really am good friends with Nica because Nika's son, Suede, 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:29.479 goes to school with my daughter Hero and so and 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:31.200 I God, I love Van. 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:32.080 I loved it. 1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:32.880 I just thought it was. 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:33.560 Cool, you know. 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:35.360 And yeah, I liked it a lot. 1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:36.640 I thought they really did. 1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:38.559 I thought they did a good job. Nika sings her 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:39.479 as off man. 1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:42.679 How did you eat Van in the first place? Street? 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:47.360 Van and I wrote together deliciously Down and Mean Sleep 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:50.760 and some other songs that I wish the world would 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:51.360 get to hear too. 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:55.120 I love writing with Van. We were you know what 1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:56.639 you're going to say. Listen. 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.040 They call me amish two thousand. I'm such a fucking 1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:02.160 tech retard. One would literally have to do the thing 1:20:02.200 --> 1:20:03.519 for me. You know, I don't know you know me, 1:20:05.600 --> 1:20:09.920 so we'll scratch. But that was something that the record 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:13.800 company did. The record work group set me up with 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:24.160 this dude, David Ryan Harris from Follow for Follow. I 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:26.960 used to follow them around like a group album when 1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:28.960 they would come to l A. My friends and I 1:20:29.200 --> 1:20:31.400 like groupies. We would go to the gig, would wait 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:33.040 by the fucking bus. It was embarrassed. 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:39.800 I was follow a record on it called If I had. 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:46.880 That one Boys Boys, So he did. 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:48.960 He did Dan Faris album That's right, and I think 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:50.880 it was her m D for like a couple of years. 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:53.280 So they set me up with David, Ryan Harris and 1:20:53.920 --> 1:20:56.360 Van uh because. 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:58.280 If you on work that you were labeling, you know 1:20:58.360 --> 1:21:00.479 what's with David Harris. 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:04.040 I wrote Still my Heart with Ryan Harris. That was 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:08.880 our cool writing. An Astero is from Toronto. That's my girl. 1:21:09.000 --> 1:21:10.920 She's I met her because she was dating my brother 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:13.200 and then he brought her to a gig and she 1:21:13.439 --> 1:21:15.960 was happened to be on the same label. An Astero 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:17.920 is a pirate and a dear sister of mine. 1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:23.800 David, No, he wasn't. 1:21:23.840 --> 1:21:24.160 He wasn't. 1:21:24.200 --> 1:21:28.320 No, he was on something else. Eagle Eye, the Cherry's Brother. 1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:34.200 Save Tonight record that was a good man in a minute. 1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:36.320 That record was everywhere I heard it, like in Trader 1:21:36.400 --> 1:21:37.040 Joe's Oh Listen. 1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:39.280 It drove me crazy because at the time my album 1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:42.680 was just laying there like it was laying like a 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:45.400 fucking egg, and everywhere we went, We'd hear Saved Tonight 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:46.439 and I'd be like that mother. 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.320 Yeah, the jealousy, man, it was deep. That was a 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:56.519 hard time, man. I we had put so much love 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:57.800 and you were. 1:21:57.680 --> 1:21:59.920 Ahead of your time and you know, I don't know, man, 1:22:00.280 --> 1:22:03.360 it was it was rough. I mean, touring was beautiful. 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:06.120 We were really adored and embraced everywhere we went. And 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:07.800 then you know, you check the record sales. 1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:15.280 I have a question for what should again the name 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:15.719 of the band. 1:22:16.320 --> 1:22:18.080 I was in a band called Subject to Change, and 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:20.479 then I did a solo album and then okay, I 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:21.960 left the Yeah, the band broke up and. 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.120 All right, but let's let's say the Subject to Change 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:26.120 you did. 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:27.360 That album tanked as well. 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:29.680 But there's now that did actually come out? 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:32.640 It never came out, Yeah, I guess it. 1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:36.080 I think it did come out. Yeah. 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:37.720 I think that's like one of those things you find 1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:42.160 by accident at a truck stop, right there beside trying 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.000 to get it right beside Nam Campbell. 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:45.040 I got an idea. 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:49.360 Seeing that album. 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:50.439 It's called Baby Woman. 1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:55.760 I've actually heard it. Hold up, Yes, she did what. 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:58.080 I bet Quincy produced it. 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:02.000 No, he didn't have to deal with Okay, but the 1:23:02.040 --> 1:23:02.760 subject to change. 1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:06.959 Go ahead ahead, I'm sorry, sorry. 1:23:07.240 --> 1:23:08.360 Now and waited too long. 1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:09.479 Now it's going to sound. 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:13.120 How we just diffuse every Steve bomb. 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.839 Tell either forget or just won't sound right anymore. 1:23:18.560 --> 1:23:18.920 Go ahead? 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:21.439 So the subject to change album? What's that called? 1:23:21.920 --> 1:23:23.520 It was called womb Amnesia? 1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:24.920 Okay, did it come out or not? 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:25.840 I don't think it. 1:23:25.960 --> 1:23:28.840 I think it that. 1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:33.320 There's copies, there's used copies for sale and discogs. I'm 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:34.040 looking at them right now. 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:35.519 I guess it. 1:23:37.600 --> 1:23:39.679 Doesn't matter whether it came out or not, actually, because 1:23:39.720 --> 1:23:42.800 the idea is to re release it now. 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:44.960 Oh god, I would hate to put that record out. 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.400 I mean I I just think it sounds like a 1:23:47.560 --> 1:23:48.640 raging chipmunk. 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:48.920 You know. 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:52.080 It's like, you know, because I was I had just 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:55.960 really become a feminist, you know, like just discovered that 1:23:56.080 --> 1:23:58.479 I you know that I was angry, and so I 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:01.280 was really fucking like you know what you know when 1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:02.200 you first get angry. 1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:04.240 I mean, I was mad about being black, I was 1:24:04.280 --> 1:24:05.240 mad about being a chick. 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.439 I was mad about everything, and so that album just 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:11.640 sounds like a petulant frenzy, you know, And I. 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:17.639 Think, yeah, I mean, I'm it's sweet you know, fucking pissed, 1:24:17.720 --> 1:24:19.479 you know hearing it. 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:21.160 Now, is it kind of embarrassing? 1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:22.920 Like the thing about like just like I think it's 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:25.880 kind of cute, you know, it tickles me a little bit. 1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:28.720 And I just sound so small, you know, like I 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:30.719 sound really small and mad. 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:35.040 So not very potent since you mentioned anger. Just curious 1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:37.720 to check your your temperature on the Hollywood right now 1:24:38.080 --> 1:24:41.240 as a feminist, and I love it. 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:42.679 Man, this is a great time. 1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:45.360 I think a lot of motherfuckers are shaking in their 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:46.880 boots and they should. 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:48.600 It really excites me. 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:51.400 I just can't wait for the next one, you know, 1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:55.120 you know what, I can't wait because know, I just 1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:57.559 can't wait for the next motherfucker to get strong because 1:24:58.080 --> 1:25:00.599 because the truth is, you know, I got two small 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:05.080 daughters who have really already expressed a desire to perform 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.960 and I and I don't want them to ever be 1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:13.519 pray for these predators. And I also know myself too, 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:17.160 I am a big fan. I admire so many people, 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:20.880 I admire so many men, and I have just been 1:25:21.000 --> 1:25:24.680 blessed that no one decided I was pray because I've 1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:26.400 looked up like you know, like I said, you know, 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:28.080 we used to wait outside the bus. 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:30.920 Man looking like we were prey on purpose, you know. 1:25:32.200 --> 1:25:37.560 And yeah, they all got to get got because this 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:42.719 is this is ancient, this is the beginning of time. 1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:45.599 This is the plight of the weaker sex. 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:47.439 And time is up. 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:51.519 Time is up, motherfuckers. I have been god, no one 1:25:51.600 --> 1:25:57.360 ever got me completely. Let's say I got halfway got 1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:00.800 And I'll tell you another really sad, shitty fact that 1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:03.120 I know you can attest to. If you get a 1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:06.720 bunch of women together, not one woman has gotten out unscathed, 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:10.280 not one, not a single one can say they didn't 1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:13.160 get me because we all were so fucking happy to 1:26:13.200 --> 1:26:15.640 be there. At one point let it go further than 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:18.560 we wanted it to go. Maybe we even did say no, 1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:22.240 and it still kept going. And you know, this is 1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:24.800 what has happened to all of us, and this is 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:28.960 why this time is so important, and it's got to 1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:32.080 keep going until every last one of these motherfuckers are out. 1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:34.360 What do you tell your daughter's like, what do you 1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:35.479 say to them? 1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:37.639 You know, I have to be very careful. They're four 1:26:37.760 --> 1:26:40.000 and six. I don't want them to be afraid. 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:43.880 What I tell them is, if anybody tells you that 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:47.479 they can touch you and don't say anything because they'll 1:26:47.600 --> 1:26:50.720 hurt your mom or dad. You tell them your mom 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:54.439 is a wolf, your daddy's a fucking dragon, and nobody 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:57.720 can hurt us. I said, anybody touches you, you tell us. 1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:01.360 I can't wait. You know, my babies know and they 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:03.680 see me. I got you know, I'm not the one 1:27:03.760 --> 1:27:04.840 to cut off while driving. 1:27:04.920 --> 1:27:08.160 I'm not. I'm not the one in the park. You 1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:17.280 know what I mean? Character it actually does, it actually does. 1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:18.960 Then don't forget. 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:24.000 My mother's family is from North Richmond, California, so I 1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:25.240 can don't push. 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:26.560 Me birthplace of Masterpiece. 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:31.360 That's right, That's right. 1:27:31.680 --> 1:27:34.200 That's so dope. So now, like, what do you pretty 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:34.640 much do? 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:35.080 Is it? 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:38.000 Are your days pretty much consistent of voiceover stuff? 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:40.920 It's all voiceover? I mean, I just started writing again. 1:27:41.040 --> 1:27:44.680 I'm super excited. I'm singing again, and that's setting me 1:27:44.760 --> 1:27:45.280 on fire. 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:46.080 I'm so happy. 1:27:46.479 --> 1:27:48.280 Which is you know, when we talk about retro uh 1:27:48.720 --> 1:27:52.240 retroactive street Ferry is retroactive, you know, And all of 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:56.400 a sudden, you know, people are talking to me about again. 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:00.439 I don't know. I mean, I don't know if you 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:03.000 could get back the master or something, but I really 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:03.360 I can't. 1:28:03.880 --> 1:28:07.800 It's Sony that belongs to this. I'd have to re 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:09.479 record the whole fucking you know. 1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:11.320 But no, I think it was a record. I mean 1:28:11.360 --> 1:28:12.960 when it came out, I think it was kind of 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:14.040 before it's time a little bit. 1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.639 I think it was. I definitely wasn't ready for it. Yeah, 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:18.400 it's definitely more for now. 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:21.960 It would be understood more now than it would, you 1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:24.040 know at that time, I think, which us back to 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:25.200 my idea. 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:27.680 You can't do that. 1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:30.080 But you know, also, don't forget there was a weird 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:31.960 thing going on at that time in the nineties. Do 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:34.759 you remember when you weren't allowed to do television and music? 1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:35.360 Do you? 1:28:35.400 --> 1:28:38.680 Guys you know what that was? You don't remember that thing? 1:28:39.080 --> 1:28:42.160 If you were on TV, if you, well, that's now. 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:44.519 But if you were on TV back in those days, 1:28:44.600 --> 1:28:46.479 you'd come on the stage and they'd be like, ah, fuck, 1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:53.080 this is that chick from different world. There's no way 1:28:53.439 --> 1:29:00.640 I remember God to say, remember everyone she used to 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:04.760 just play Genghis cohen Man. But at that time you 1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:08.400 really couldn't do both a stigma about it. Now you 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:09.799 better do it fucking everything. 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:11.920 Yeah, because I was thinking like maybe. 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:14.160 I think your journey with the music, maybe it would 1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:16.479 have been different if people knew you from the music 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.439 first and then the acting they start. When you start 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:23.280 with the acting first, people automatically discredit you as a musician. 1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:25.400 It's easy to be a musician, and I have a 1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:27.920 feeling that was what hinder Jasman's career as a singer 1:29:27.960 --> 1:29:31.400 as well, because people were expecting and they were waiting 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:32.280 for Whitley to start singing. 1:29:32.360 --> 1:29:33.519 Yeah, they wanted to give it. 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:36.200 RBL But I am I gotta say though, I am 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:40.640 just super grateful for all the sweetness and love that 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:41.920 people give Street Fairy. 1:29:42.000 --> 1:29:42.120 Now. 1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:45.840 I was just literally facetiming Lenny last night and he 1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:47.680 was saying, man, I can't believe how many people won't 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:48.840 stop talking about Street Fairy. 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:52.800 It's so nice, you know, so you're writing now still. 1:29:53.920 --> 1:29:56.400 I just have been really set on set a flame. 1:29:56.479 --> 1:29:59.080 I caught a fire. It feels so good. You're ready 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.720 to perform too, I would like to, Yeah, I will. 1:30:01.840 --> 1:30:03.400 I will to. 1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:06.920 Rewind back to your voice acting. Yeah you did. You've 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:08.120 done video games as well? Right? 1:30:08.240 --> 1:30:08.400 I do? 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:14.280 Not as many, not very many thought. Yeah, I like 1:30:14.600 --> 1:30:16.880 there's things I like about video games and things I 1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:19.519 don't fucking like about video games. I mean video games 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:22.560 when they set down that script, it's like, right, thud. 1:30:22.720 --> 1:30:24.679 That's what That's what I wanted to ask you about 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:27.679 the strike that recently happened with the voice actors, because 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:30.000 you know, you guys have to do you know, screams 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:33.000 and so many different like you know, so many different 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:34.360 screams and so many different yells. 1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:37.600 It's real voice. Yeah, So I was wondering if that 1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.000 was something that you had ever encountered. 1:30:39.040 --> 1:30:41.320 Well, oh yeah, man, there's some jobs you just call 1:30:41.439 --> 1:30:43.240 blood throat. That's like the kind of the code name. 1:30:43.280 --> 1:30:45.639 You know, how's your gig today? Blood throat? Man, fucking 1:30:45.680 --> 1:30:48.760 blood throat, because it's just page after page of like, 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:52.120 you know, one punch has this sound, one punch has 1:30:52.240 --> 1:30:56.840 this sound, thirty fucking kicks, nineteen death cries, and by 1:30:56.920 --> 1:30:59.120 the end of the day, by the end of the day, 1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:00.679 you just feel like you've been hit by a semi 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:05.479 you know, in the trope. And and the other thing 1:31:05.560 --> 1:31:08.080 about that contract that was so shady was, you know, 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:12.880 these these non disclosure things that we'd have to sign, 1:31:13.479 --> 1:31:15.720 and then they were allowed to not tell us what we. 1:31:15.760 --> 1:31:16.560 Were auditioning for. 1:31:17.080 --> 1:31:19.320 So you'd go to this gig you it would just 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:22.600 say unknown video game, right, and then you'd book it. 1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:24.360 They'd negotiate your fucking fee. 1:31:24.439 --> 1:31:28.760 You'd book it. Yeah you're in Halo. You're in Halo, 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:32.360 and you got paid ten cents. So we were pissed. Man, 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:34.240 we're pissed. It's not okay. 1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:40.200 Wow, So what you know is the union, Well, you 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:41.240 guys did strike behind it. 1:31:41.360 --> 1:31:46.400 Yeah, we did strike behind it. Okay, you're a little 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:46.680 bit better. 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:46.840 You know. 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:50.200 They were also, you know, the the video game companies 1:31:50.240 --> 1:31:52.400 were saying that it didn't matter if professional actors were 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.840 doing the doing the jobs, that it was all about 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:56.480 the game, and that we were incidental. 1:31:57.040 --> 1:31:57.320 Wow. 1:31:57.400 --> 1:31:59.240 We'll always wondered it was why couldn't they just you know, 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:02.559 once you've recorded, you know, twenty thirty people doing all 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:04.519 these different screens, why can't you just reuse them? 1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:05.280 Wait? 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.880 You know what the kind directors do, the ones that 1:32:08.960 --> 1:32:10.880 you love to work for do they say, ah, we 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:12.160 got it, we got it, go home. 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:15.840 Yeah, we love those people. Yeah, that's Blizzard is really 1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:18.760 good like that. Andrea Torre is a Blizzard. They're a 1:32:18.800 --> 1:32:19.320 good company. 1:32:20.080 --> 1:32:22.599 Which video games were you on oh god. 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:25.040 Honestly, I'd have to IMDb myself. 1:32:26.640 --> 1:32:27.080 Much weed. 1:32:27.680 --> 1:32:28.720 I spoke so much weed. 1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:30.280 We won't be a fallout. 1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:33.280 It won't be a lot of video games fall out 1:32:33.320 --> 1:32:34.240 because I don't do a lot. 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:35.200 Of final fantasies. 1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:36.799 Are you an indict? 1:32:38.479 --> 1:32:40.920 I like Sativa? I also like a little Skywalker in 1:32:41.000 --> 1:32:43.320 the hyd Yeah. 1:32:44.040 --> 1:32:46.040 How do you feel about the new the new law situation. 1:32:47.240 --> 1:32:49.000 We're going to be able to do it? Yeah, recreation, 1:32:49.560 --> 1:32:50.559 I think it's wonderful. 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.519 No, it's not yet, No, it's now, Yes, it is now. 1:32:53.920 --> 1:32:56.720 I got I got mine on Wednesday, so I can 1:32:56.800 --> 1:32:59.080 do anybody. But there's only four shops in all of 1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:00.759 Los Angeles, and they're all and what's Hollywood. 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.799 But if you have a prescription, we get a discount. 1:33:03.840 --> 1:33:05.960 I don't have a prescription. No, I just got a 1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:10.200 guy that drives it home. I've got the same guy 1:33:10.320 --> 1:33:12.839 that's been delivering this ship, you know, since the Coke Daisies. 1:33:13.000 --> 1:33:13.479 You know what I mean. 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:17.160 It's something about the normal sys. I did that up 1:33:17.200 --> 1:33:18.400 until like a couple of months ago. 1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:20.760 Yeah, night, what does it feel. I've never ever been 1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:21.519 in one of those shops. 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:23.679 Well, you know what's crazy, because it's like seven eleven, 1:33:23.800 --> 1:33:27.600 but we no, that sounds went into yeah yeah, And 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:29.840 it's kind of crazy to get your prescription over the 1:33:29.880 --> 1:33:31.960 phone and you know, get it five minutes. 1:33:32.000 --> 1:33:33.800 So, I mean, this is what I hear. 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:34.880 Drugs. 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:40.240 I like that door to door man, old school, but. 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:41.599 They have charged, you know, for delivery. 1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:45.280 I don't mind, man, because you're just like now, you know. 1:33:46.640 --> 1:33:48.280 It's like I don't want to get out of the house. 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:51.479 When you want to smoke. You don't want to go anywhere. 1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:53.559 You're talking about drones delivering your weed. 1:33:53.640 --> 1:34:03.040 Now, if I was motivated, I wouldn't be exact him. Yeah, 1:34:06.680 --> 1:34:09.960 we forgot you were here. We just kind of. 1:34:18.280 --> 1:34:20.040 You're like in a different world over there. 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:32.479 Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I just read something 1:34:33.439 --> 1:34:34.679 you were supposed to be make Griffin. 1:34:35.680 --> 1:34:37.800 I was Griffin for the first season. 1:34:38.200 --> 1:34:43.040 That was was was I thought that was. I got 1:34:43.120 --> 1:34:44.080 to watch the first season again. 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:46.800 That's awful. Don't do it. You know, that's one of 1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:49.600 my heartbreaks. Like I just didn't fit, you know, I 1:34:49.680 --> 1:34:51.200 gotta say, how do. 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:53.800 You fit for? I mean, you're like I did. 1:34:53.960 --> 1:34:58.560 I didn't veteran of listen, I've been fired from better jobs. 1:35:01.720 --> 1:35:05.280 I have, man, I've been fired from some fucking gig everything. 1:35:05.320 --> 1:35:07.280 But can I tell you when I do when I 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:09.479 go there from a voice though, you can just get 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:11.240 the same call you get from every gig. You know, 1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:14.320 it's not working. You know, we really love her, it's 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:14.840 not working. 1:35:18.360 --> 1:35:18.560 You know. 1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:22.160 Here's the thing. You know, when that fucking job smarts me. 1:35:22.479 --> 1:35:24.000 When I go to do a guest spot on The 1:35:24.040 --> 1:35:29.559 Cleveland Show and it's a building a family guy like man, 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:31.720 that fucking I get butt hurt going up on the 1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:34.799 elevator because I just like, think of all the fucking 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:38.680 money I could have made that was probably get fired from. 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:41.599 But I just didn't, you know, when you just don't gel. 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:42.840 I mean, I have to tell you this. You know, 1:35:43.920 --> 1:35:46.519 Seth Green and I are that's my love. But the 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:49.040 other Seth, I mean, we just didn't We didn't you do? 1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:53.360 Oh yeah, that's a love of my life. He's such 1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:57.000 a dope ass dude. But you know it just didn't jibe. Listen, 1:35:57.080 --> 1:35:58.439 we all ain't going to be friends. 1:35:59.080 --> 1:35:59.280 You know. 1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:06.200 It's like Meg was always just a straight ahead character, 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:07.679 said you didn't have to be silly. 1:36:08.040 --> 1:36:10.320 I think that might have been a problem. I don't 1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:12.080 know how good I am as the straight man. 1:36:13.080 --> 1:36:16.280 Oh, they wanted you more dryer. Yeah, and you were. 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:19.679 I think I was just trying everything everybody else was trying, 1:36:19.880 --> 1:36:20.800 you know, because I. 1:36:20.880 --> 1:36:24.160 Love that first season, So I gotta watch it now. Well, yeah, 1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:25.320 I was one of the people that was like, I 1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:27.040 want to see a bit you know when when they 1:36:27.080 --> 1:36:29.040 got cancel when they got canceled all that stuff. It 1:36:29.080 --> 1:36:31.479 was one of those people too. Wow, Okay, now I 1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:36.240 gotta read Sorry, America, watch it. I gotta rewatch it. 1:36:36.400 --> 1:36:36.880 Well, so. 1:36:38.360 --> 1:36:42.720 I'm using the Simpsons as as the wrong example, But 1:36:44.160 --> 1:36:48.760 is the goal to be on a series so successful 1:36:49.760 --> 1:36:52.799 that those residual checks just it would be nice? 1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:55.479 I mean, you know, it would be nice. You know 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:58.800 I I don't even think I think about it in 1:36:58.920 --> 1:37:02.160 terms like that and in v O because it's such 1:37:02.200 --> 1:37:03.519 a constant. Do you know what I mean? 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:07.920 But what's what constitutes a successful series? Five years? 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:10.599 Twenty years of rug round? 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:14.280 Hold on, I'm sorry, I hate to rewind back to 1:37:14.880 --> 1:37:16.840 to a family guy, but I just read the wiki. 1:37:17.479 --> 1:37:17.799 Together. 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:22.040 We want to we want to talk about Foxy loving. 1:37:23.880 --> 1:37:24.519 Love the fox. 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:27.479 Yes, let me know if this is correct. On your. 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:32.519 Fat They're fun, get that your fun. 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:37.080 Okay, I just want to see if this is true. 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:39.360 This is on your Wikipedia page, but it says the 1:37:39.439 --> 1:37:42.920 reason why Meg got recast because they felt having a 1:37:42.960 --> 1:37:45.600 black woman's voice of white character would be racially insensitive. 1:37:47.760 --> 1:37:49.560 The Cleveland show, that's. 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:50.000 A fucking. 1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:54.639 Well, we thought it will be insensitive, so we fire 1:37:54.760 --> 1:38:00.559 the black girl white man. If it's true, I hope 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:01.000 it's not true. 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:03.360 Yeah, that would kissed me off. 1:38:03.560 --> 1:38:06.360 Yeah, let's let's say that's not You got to. 1:38:06.320 --> 1:38:07.960 Go back in the building. Yeah, I gotta go back. 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:15.320 I had to update great filling games before you took off. 1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:21.080 We talked about Foxy you know, Yeah. 1:38:21.120 --> 1:38:24.280 She's not real. You know that, right, Foxy Love. I 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:27.639 just feel that ask some question. 1:38:27.680 --> 1:38:28.200 It's real. 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:32.400 She was a Jacoli colored, freaking amed foreman. Then for 1:38:32.560 --> 1:38:34.240 Maniac mistress Salva musician. 1:38:34.439 --> 1:38:36.280 She plays Frisbee, that's right. 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:39.439 She played the ship out of the jingle frisk How 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:40.720 many seasons we get out of that? That was like, 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:44.719 I think we only got to God. It was so good. 1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:49.040 No one was exempt, I mean even God. I remember 1:38:49.080 --> 1:38:53.760 there was like this glory, glory, hollelujah, and he you know, 1:38:54.320 --> 1:38:58.000 sorry anyway, saying everybody got theirs you know. 1:38:58.680 --> 1:39:00.679 Here's here's a good question. Do you think there should 1:39:00.720 --> 1:39:03.639 be limits in comedy? Because, like, you know, the Dave Chappelle, 1:39:04.120 --> 1:39:07.320 I love that and you love I love them too, 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:08.640 But there are quite a few people that did not 1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:10.760 like the Specials because of some of the topics that 1:39:10.840 --> 1:39:12.880 he covered. So I'm assuming that you don't think that 1:39:12.920 --> 1:39:14.519 there should be any boundaries in comedy. 1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:17.280 I don't know if I just think in comedy, I mean, 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:21.479 I just think that, Oh, that's such a tough one. 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:26.160 I use my instinct when it comes to when I'm offended, do. 1:39:26.160 --> 1:39:26.840 You know what I mean? 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:30.360 I I can feel, I can feel when it hurts you. 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:34.680 I can feel when it hurts and then I can 1:39:34.760 --> 1:39:37.559 feel when it's just a really fucking clever joke, man. 1:39:37.720 --> 1:39:41.599 And listen, caricatures exist for a reason. Yeah, we all 1:39:41.640 --> 1:39:42.679 got a little bit of that ship. 1:39:43.320 --> 1:39:44.559 You hear actually said that word. 1:39:46.120 --> 1:39:59.600 Caricatures, caricatures, the boxing, caricatures, caricatures. 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:00.680 I love it. 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:10.080 Hear it? Wow? And actually I almost wish I wasn't 1:40:10.080 --> 1:40:11.439 in the room with her so I could just hear it. 1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:17.680 Do you kids know what you are? 1:40:18.040 --> 1:40:18.280 Do you know? 1:40:18.360 --> 1:40:21.720 They don't give us ship, They don't watch TV. 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:22.640 They do. 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:27.000 They watch My daughter loves the Legend of Cora. Brave, Brave, 1:40:27.080 --> 1:40:28.599 Little Wing loves the Legend of Cora. 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:31.320 Mama, is that your voice? 1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:34.120 You know which one hero loves? Vamporina. 1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:36.519 This new show I do on Disney Junior and I 1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:40.040 actually the May the Circle Be Unbroken, bye and bye 1:40:40.320 --> 1:40:42.360 and bye and bye. I just got them a gig 1:40:42.520 --> 1:40:43.520 on Vampa. 1:40:43.560 --> 1:40:45.240 They did, you're pulling. 1:40:45.680 --> 1:40:53.280 Oh yeah, let's Mama's gonna be oldest started somebody else 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:54.040 get to work. 1:40:57.040 --> 1:40:58.599 To save this time she was seventeen. 1:40:59.120 --> 1:40:59.840 Show you right? 1:41:00.160 --> 1:41:04.120 Yes, yeah, But they don't really, they don't get very excited. 1:41:04.280 --> 1:41:06.120 I mean, every now and then a cartoon will come 1:41:06.160 --> 1:41:08.519 on and they'll say is that you? And I say yeah, 1:41:08.520 --> 1:41:13.479 and then they just go by the business. As a 1:41:13.520 --> 1:41:15.639 matter of fact, I got so excited about Vamporina because 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:18.759 this is the only cartoon they've gotten excited about. At first, 1:41:18.840 --> 1:41:21.200 I was trying to push it on them. I'd be like, 1:41:21.240 --> 1:41:22.200 don't you want to check out this? 1:41:22.760 --> 1:41:26.400 Look at this ship like, and they just didn't like it. 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:26.800 You know. 1:41:29.439 --> 1:41:34.600 That One of our guys on the podcast is the 1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:38.080 musical director for Sesame Streak and his daughters. 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:44.920 Hate me just about to make even the Halloween episode 1:41:44.960 --> 1:41:49.160 when he was like trying to They were just like, no, 1:41:50.280 --> 1:41:56.559 I'm good. Well you know I think. I mean, I'm 1:41:56.600 --> 1:41:58.559 trying to think of Wars. I was about to say, 1:41:58.680 --> 1:42:05.160 like I wanted to be there so much. Anyway, Well, 1:42:05.439 --> 1:42:07.280 uh listen, this was so. 1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:13.519 Long, cried I. 1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:19.679 Well, I appreciate you coming. 1:42:19.800 --> 1:42:21.720 Yeah, I'm happy I did well. Like I said, I'm 1:42:21.760 --> 1:42:22.120 a fan. 1:42:22.320 --> 1:42:25.439 So we love you, thank you, thank you for. 1:42:26.439 --> 1:42:27.400 Meeting you guys. 1:42:30.160 --> 1:42:32.400 She looks at Steve any last words. 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:35.280 Steve now on behalf of two members of the Steve 1:42:35.360 --> 1:42:41.360 Miller Man myself, boss, belle yourself. 1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:52.280 Yes, I had to step anyway, that's that's that on 1:42:52.479 --> 1:42:52.920 behap of it. 1:42:53.840 --> 1:42:56.000 Thank you for raising a nation of weird and loving me. 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.840 Yes, yeah, just I guess I just want to say, God, 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:03.599 bless the freaks. Freak shall inherit the earth and the squares. 1:43:03.840 --> 1:43:07.960 Got will watch the fuck out at night? 1:43:08.600 --> 1:43:19.439 Right the car back please then I'm stalking of all 1:43:19.520 --> 1:43:21.320 you freaks out there. 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