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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nobel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. And guys, I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you, if you've been reading the news, do you

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Speaker 3: feel some of it is strange?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's just a handful of stories.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, thank you, Thank you Matt, because hopefully all

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Speaker 3: our fellow conspirac realist agree. This is indeed our weekly

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Speaker 3: strange news program. If you are listening the evening it publishes,

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Speaker 3: we have some we have some weird news for you, folks.

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Speaker 3: Just here at the top, Dylan, if we could get

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Speaker 3: like a bittersweet sound cue little satdur inspired at the end,

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Speaker 3: amazing perfect. Welcome to September one, folks, August twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five is officially done. It's done, so heck yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's also finally kind of fall weather.

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Speaker 5: I think we're in true perma fall and it's not

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Speaker 5: another fake out fall. It feels glorious outside today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel glorious here at our fair metropolis

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Speaker 3: of Atlanta. You can have a great time walking around.

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Speaker 3: We encourage you to always do as people have said lately,

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Speaker 3: touch grass, get out there in nature, take height, wave

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Speaker 3: to a coyote if you're in Matt's neighborhood, that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff. Unfortunately, we do have to start with a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a sad story and a big thank

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Speaker 3: you to everybody who reported from Burning Man. Guys, things

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Speaker 3: didn't work out at the orgy Dome.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: What could go wrong? I really don't know the answer, Guys,

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Speaker 5: this is due to me. What's going on with the

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Speaker 5: orgy Dome? First of all, what is it?

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Speaker 4: Well? I think it's probably self explanatory, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not an ironic name, got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Before you get into it and what it is,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at an article from the Mirror Ben and

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Speaker 2: Noll and here's the title, burning Man. Orgy Dome requires

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Speaker 2: a lot of preparation involving wet wipes and gloves and

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Speaker 2: maybe some.

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Speaker 3: Lube and maybe they should have focused on the structure. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: we're an audio podcast currently, so in full disclosure, I

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Speaker 3: did have to use a must for some other things recently.

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Speaker 3: I do associate mustaches with sleazy guys from the seventies.

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Speaker 3: This is not a permanent thing, so please don't think

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Speaker 3: facial hair on our side is any way related to

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Speaker 3: the notorious orgy dome of Burning Man. As Matt said,

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Speaker 3: this does require some preparation. Can sense being key in

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Speaker 3: that preparation, and it's one of the most well known

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Speaker 3: attractions at burning Man For anybody who doesn't know. Burning

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Speaker 3: Man is the infamous flagship of things that are called

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Speaker 3: burns across various parts of the globe where people get together,

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Speaker 3: and originally they focused on community art, self expression, self reliance,

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Speaker 3: rejection of capitalism, things of that nature. Burning Man, as

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Speaker 3: the big ticket item, is a week long desert event

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Speaker 3: and its name comes from this, I think the second

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Speaker 3: huge effigy Wickerman style, right that that's why they call

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Speaker 5: How's that rejection of capitalism going? It seems like it's

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Speaker 5: a real hotspot for top dogs in the capitalist universe.

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Speaker 3: Ar ketamine MICRODOSINGE tech Bros. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of criticism of the main big tent Burning Man endeavor

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Speaker 3: because it is often seen as falling to the wayside

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Speaker 3: of its original mission. However, since the beginning of Burning

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Speaker 3: Man as a concept, they've been very into something they

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Speaker 3: call the orgy Dome, which is just what it says

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Speaker 3: on the Ten Folks Burning Man. Due to its location

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Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety, it's been in a place called black

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Speaker 3: Rock City in northwestern Nevada. A lot of people who

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Speaker 3: and regional burns. The orgy Dome encountered disaster just this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that originally was not the case. That was

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Speaker 3: not always the case. If we go to the orgy

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Speaker 3: see the following statement from two days ago, as we

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Speaker 3: record on August twenty seven, twenty five quote, our build

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Speaker 3: team worked so hard this past week to erect our

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Speaker 3: lovely space. Unfortunately, the winds yesterday and did all that

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Speaker 3: labor and wrecked our structure. We are still here and

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Speaker 3: thankfully safe. We hope to gift the PLAIA some workshops

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Speaker 3: and we'll keep you updated. So the more conservative conspiracy

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Speaker 3: theory here is that God finally had enough.

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Speaker 4: Let's not bring God into this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everybody's welcome at the Dome. Man.

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Speaker 2: The president on the Board of Directors of the Orgy

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Speaker 3: Jesus nominative determinism.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps what's his last name is out of curiosity so

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Speaker 5: we can say the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Tom's going to Bernie Mansons twenty thirteen, joined

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Speaker 5: Tom Baby Jesus McGillicuddy. We're just going to use our imagination,

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Speaker 3: And so with that we're let's give you a again.

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Speaker 3: We love a primary source, So let's give you some

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Speaker 3: statements from the comments for our friends at Orgy Dome.

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Speaker 3: Quote that's Jesus Christ saving people from STDs. Upwards of

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Speaker 4: is it just okay? Interesting? Because I guess that's it's

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Speaker 5: That that just seems remarkably weird to me, that that is,

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Speaker 4: But why if it's going.

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Speaker 5: To be advertised somewhere, why not burning Man? And you know,

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Speaker 5: speaking of God intervening, what if the wouldn't burning Man

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Speaker 5: Gomorah type situation potentially for God to smite all of

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Speaker 5: these desert dwelling centers. In one fell swoop, you also

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Speaker 5: take out some of the top CEOs the planet as well.

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Speaker 3: In thought, stuff to think about, and speaking of weird,

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Speaker 3: we have so much more stuff to get to. We

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Speaker 3: gotta talk about the Gallain Maxwell update and all the

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Speaker 3: Not to sound like a broken window there, there are

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Speaker 3: some of course, aviation shenanigans. There's a cartel we wanted

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Speaker 3: to mention, there's some widespread surveillance and what about this, guys,

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Speaker 3: Can we take a break for a word from our

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Speaker 2: Well, that's how my all means.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned breaking news and unfortun breaking news

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Speaker 3: it turns out that American nationals linked to the current

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Speaker 3: in the past. These guys wanted to infiltrate Greenland and

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Speaker 3: they wanted to run covert influencing operations there, with the

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Speaker 3: goal being for the United States to take possession of

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Speaker 3: Greenland as either a territory or a fifty first state. Now,

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Speaker 5: I just remember the President floating this idea of doing

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Speaker 3: looking low key for some new biological organisms. To your

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Speaker 3: invasion of Greenland, has not declared that there will be

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Speaker 5: So special and also like biological organisms in the arctor

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Speaker 3: something interesting. But the issue here is that Greenland is

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Speaker 5: Well, and shout out to the podcast you wrote, Ben,

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Speaker 3: Oh jeez, thank you so much. Noel with our pal

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Speaker 5: I got some science good news coming in my segment,

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Speaker 2: Short then gosh, what Is there a.

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Speaker 2: Sure, is there a specific group bad guy eyes that

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny that applies to both stories?

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Speaker 4: Is it? The foot Clan are seeing the rise of

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Speaker 3: The rise of the foot. We trusted foot Locker all along,

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Speaker 3: Let's do this. It's about a group of people who

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do a joke, but no, he's just

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Speaker 3: This came out just yesterday as we're recording. It's an

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Speaker 3: There's a second piece that was discovered on the sister

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Where should it? Who should it be returned to?

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Speaker 5: Perhaps, or what like what's what country? Is it about

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Speaker 2: Certainly be in a museum and not in somebody's house

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Speaker 5: It belongs in a museum, damn right right, and thank

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Speaker 3: This is this is a thing that is is tricky

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Speaker 2: Go, right, let's send it back to Germany and make

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Speaker 3: No, don't be sorry.

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Speaker 3: There's some poetry to it. We also have some descriptions

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Speaker 3: I don't know what painting you're talking about? How many

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Speaker 4: How can we possibly keep?

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh oh, a legendary Italian painting of a contessa.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the portrait of a lady on fire. That's

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Speaker 4: It is a portrait of a lady.

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Speaker 3: Now I want to help you, but could you tell

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Speaker 5: Know, the one, the one that's shaped like a carriage

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Speaker 3: Again, if you could just be a little more specific

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Speaker 3: The story that we didn't cover is exciting science. The

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. We are jumping to July thirtieth for

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Speaker 2: this story own way back. A lot has happened. Mm hmm, yeah,

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Speaker 2: very correct. Yes, we're gonna talk about International Paper Incorporated

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Speaker 2: about that Packaging Corporation of America, International Paper Company, SMURFET,

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Speaker 2: Cascades Incorporated, Cascades USA, and the holding US BRAT Industries,

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Speaker 2: Graphic Packaging International and Grief or GRIEFE g R e

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Speaker 2: I F Incorporated. These are a bunch of companies. What

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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: they do is they manufacture stuff like paper pulp.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, Matt, I was unmute. I just have

442
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Speaker 5: to say, grief incorporated?

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Speaker 4: Is that real?

444
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: It's probably like grief for different.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like it'd be like a funeral home cartel or something.

446
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it just destruck me as odd. Please carry on.

447
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Speaker 2: All I know is they're incorporated and they create paper

448
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: pulp and other things that are and they also manufacture

449
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: things like corrugated cardboard and very specific packaging all kinds.

450
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: The other day, yeah, last week, cardboard.

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Speaker 2: I just brought it up as in like, hey, there's

452
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Speaker 2: the thing going on. Well, we're going to talk about

453
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: it because this kind of sucks and it's way bigger

454
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Speaker 2: than even this class action lawsuit that's being filed, and

455
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about is. Let's jump to the

456
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: stories comes to us from Reuters via Mike Scirella Scarea

457
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: maybe again. On July thirtieth, twenty twenty five, International Paper

458
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Speaker 2: and other cardboard makers hit with US price fixing class

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Speaker 2: action lawsuit. So all of those people, all those companies

460
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: and corporations that I just named, including International Paper, they

461
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: have been accused in this new lawsuit of conspiring to

462
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Speaker 2: fix prices and inflate prices for key raw materials like

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Speaker 2: that paper pulp they're used to make cardboard boxes and

464
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: merchandise displays. This is a crazy deal because it's not

465
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Speaker 2: like they raised them a little bit and and it

466
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Speaker 2: just the prices are just going on because of inflation, guys. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no. Specifically, the lawsuit is saying that these

468
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Speaker 2: organizations collectively raised prices by thirty percent overall since late

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty because.

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Speaker 3: They were they were they're a limited group of suppliers.

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Speaker 3: Just so we know, merchandise displays that we're talking about

472
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Speaker 3: are something you're going to see every day anytime you

473
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Speaker 3: go to a physical art store, right, Yeah, a grocery store.

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Speaker 3: It's the stuff on what we call the end cap

475
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Speaker 3: where there's like a there's a sturdy card we're box holding,

476
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Speaker 3: you know, the stuff that is that is branded.

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Speaker 5: You know sometimes the spokesperson right and give the thumbs.

478
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: Abisco, the brawny towel man, stuff of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's everything from pizza boxes. So imagine how

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Speaker 2: many pizza boxes you've seen in your life.

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Speaker 5: Is the thing that makes it corrugated, the little wiggies

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Speaker 5: on the inside.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, layers, Yeah, okay, c COO.

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Speaker 2: Cool moving boxes. If you ever went to U haul

485
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Speaker 2: before or the home depot or any of those places

486
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: that got boxes, banker boxes and again, packaging boxes, shipping boxes,

487
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: all the boxes. So in your mind you may think, well,

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: see twenty twenty, that's around the time pandemic was really

489
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Speaker 2: in swing. It makes sense because there's so many more

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Speaker 2: boxes in our lives now than there were before that.

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Speaker 2: That's when the Amazon craze thing really began. That's when

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Speaker 2: every company out there that offers goods is giving you

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Speaker 2: that whole We'll ship it right to your house like tomorrow,

494
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe even we'll get it to you as fast as

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00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: we possibly can. Please buy from us by our stuff,

496
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: don't go to Amazon, which is because Amazon is dominating

497
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: everything so hard. It makes sense that prices would go

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Speaker 2: up at least a little bit because demand for all

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00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: of this cardboard, in all of these paper products skyrocketed

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00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: at that time, and that would make sense, But thirty

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00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: percent for paper pulp products, it's very it seems like

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00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: way too much. So if you jump down to the lawsuit,

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: you can check this out, by the way, you can

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00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: look it up. The plaintiff in this lawsuit, by the way,

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00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: or this proposal for a class action lawsuit is are

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Speaker 2: TWUSO Pastry Foods Corporation that is aart USO pastry Foods Corporation.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how this group and their attorneys

508
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: figured out that all of these groups somehow uniformly increased

509
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: their prices, you know, by ticks, at the same exact

510
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: time over all of these times. Because it says the

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00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: manufacturers violated US anti trust law through quote numerous unprecedented

512
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: and unjustified price increases, often implemented at the exact same time,

513
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: and for the exact same price increase.

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Speaker 3: It's the coordination that got them.

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: Well yeah, because now nobody can be the person or

516
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: the corporation you go to to get slightly cheaper versions

517
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: of that thing. It means competition or the thing that's

518
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: supposed to drive competition gets eliminated. And now you just

519
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: choose somebody and it's and if there are enough of

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00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: these groups working together, you can have let's say, a

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00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: company like Georgia Pacific that is going to manufacture a

522
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: whole bunch of products like this. But they're going to

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Speaker 2: focus on certain regions, let's say of the world or

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00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: of the United States, and then another big corporation could,

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00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: let's say, focus in another area, and everybody gets their

526
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: slice of the pie because guys were in this cardboard

527
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: pie together, this pizza pie, this box filled with US currency.

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Speaker 3: Corrugated corruption and conspiracy. You'll love to see it because

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00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: also at such a word loophole, here's what plausibly happens.

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: Our pastry company gets this crazy price rise, right, and

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Speaker 3: they know there's a free market. So they go to

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: this other company and lo and behold the same thing

533
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: as occurred. So they go to this third company and

534
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: cheepers low and behold part two electric Googloo. And now

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00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: they're starting to put the pieces together. It is interesting

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Speaker 3: that it took a corporation to do this because plausibly,

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00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: here's the insidious, very clever ethics aside part. The average

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00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: individual consumer would not have clocked this.

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00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: No, no, but we'd all noticed that prices for everything

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: would be increasing pretty extensively and seem to outpace every

541
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: other variable that would increase prices. And so you're like, WHOA,

542
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: why is everything so expensive?

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00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: When I go to the grocery store. Well, guess what,

545
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: you know what you're all the products in the center aisles.

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's in what those are inside cardboard materials.

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00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: Not necessarily these exact cardboard, container board, liner board and

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but very similar products. And if this

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00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: is happening, where this lawsuit is drilling down into these

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: specific paper products, you can only imagine that it's happening

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: across the board in other ways. The cardboard.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that was worth it, my gosh, Yes.

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00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: But you know, I think you're absolutely right. But because

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: nobody would be talking about that unless I don't know,

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00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: unless somebody, you know, like a General Mills or some

556
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: huge brand would say, well, we got to increase prices

557
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: a little bit because our packaging prices have just gone crazy.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I got to tell you. And personal anecdotes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how helpful they are to the show,

560
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: but I got to tell you, Matt, this one is

561
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: really speaking to me. Because not to brag or high

562
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: road anyone, but earlier this morning I went and bought

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Speaker 3: some toilet paper. That's what it's like at the top.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: I am a fan of bidets. Shout out to NOL. However,

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Speaker 3: getting that toilet paper. I was astounded by the price

567
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Speaker 3: increases when I had only been on the road for

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: maybe two and a half weeks or so, right, and

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: that measurably ticked up. And I think we're just all

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Speaker 3: as consumers, as again, individual consumers, we're not really clocking

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00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 3: the baked in cost. We're clocking the retail price going up.

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00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: So to your point, it's devilishly easy to not be

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Speaker 3: aware of how those production cost are getting folded in

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00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: because the cardboard cartels are not charging you, they're charging

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00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: the companies that are then passing that cost onto you,

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: just like i'll say it tariffs. So I'm thinking of

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: cereal boxes. Right. When's the last time anybody bought a

578
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: box of cereal in a reusable glass container? If you

579
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: have right in because I don't know if that exists.

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00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was so excited back in the day when

581
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: they introduced the concept of just these plastic giant bags

582
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: of cereal instead of the little boxes. But then I

583
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: thought about all the oil involved in you know what,

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Speaker 2: I never considered glass bottles, glass containers of cereal. That

585
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: feels like something a wealthy person does, kind of like

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Speaker 2: with a container of whiskey or something.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't know about you, guys, but

588
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: that's like the main reason I Buypasta sauce is because

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00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 3: you get a free glass at the end.

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00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, only drink out of ball products everybody and

591
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: or reused.

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Speaker 3: That's that cannot be our parable, Matt.

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Speaker 4: I only drink out of commemorative McDonald's glasses from the

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Speaker 4: night that the ones with really high cadmium content.

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Speaker 3: You know, the catmium just makes it, Pope, give it

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Speaker 3: a little extra.

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Speaker 2: Mommy, I'm not kidding you guys want to say it's

598
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: it's mostly Mason jars here in this house and old

599
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: pint glasses from when I was in my twenties and

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00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: I went to a bunch of different like beer fests

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Speaker 2: around Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love the commemorative stuff.

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, put stacks of them fast man.

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00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: Okay.

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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: So that's a great note, by the way, a peak

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Speaker 3: behind the curtain. Folks. No matter what you think about

607
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: the the four of us or the five of us

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00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: you listening along at home, please remember it's great to

609
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: save money. Odds. Oh, it's some nice reusable glassware. Like

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us are above it unless

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00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: Dylan sends us an angry message in the chat.

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Speaker 5: Huh No, I don't know that Dylan's ever sent an

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Speaker 5: angry message to anyone in his life.

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00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: Okay, besides the cardboard folks. He's doing that right now.

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00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: That's an off air revelation into our super producer's personality. Matt,

616
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Speaker 3: do we know, like this lawsuit is in play right now?

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Speaker 3: There have been no conclusions or where are we at?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No conclusions? Yeah, this is basically that's funny if

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Speaker 2: you actually read the document here looking currently at the

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00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: Sherman anti trust law from eighteen ninety, which is what

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Speaker 2: this lawsuit is based on, anti trust practices. Here, where

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Speaker 2: is it? Here we go? What was filed was a

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Speaker 2: class action complaint demand for jury trial. Okay, so right

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: now it's just like, hey, this is going to be

625
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: a thing. We want a class action lawsuit. And they're

626
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Speaker 2: saying that there are potentially hundreds of thousands of other

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00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: corporations companies just like Artiso Pastry Foods Corporation. It says

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Speaker 2: them individually and on behalf of all others similarly situated.

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Speaker 2: So anybody that sells pizza and uses those boxes has

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Speaker 2: to buy those as part of their cost of doing business.

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Speaker 2: And anybody that has end caps, anybody that does any

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Speaker 2: kind of I guess cardboard packaging, whatsoever, probably haul you

633
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Speaker 2: haul is going to get in there. They're a real upset.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can you wait till the FedEx folks

635
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: get in on this. They're going to go nuts. As

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00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: you mentioned Amazon, The issue here, I think that gives

637
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: us a lot of sand on the lawsuit is that

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Speaker 3: past a certain threshold of business in the US, and

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Speaker 3: indeed and broad there is no way to find different

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Speaker 3: companies for this.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, at least to my knowledge. I'm going to

642
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: read a little bit more from this Reuter's article and

643
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: then we'll jump out of the story goes. It says

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: price increases in the corrugated box market quote drastically outpaced

645
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: what the lawsuit described as a modest rise in demand

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00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: over the period covered by the complaint, and as demand

647
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: fell in recent years, the price increases continued, which is

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00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: one of the big things here. It's not costing more

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: and more and more and more and more to produce

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00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: paper pulp, would be the argument, then, why and how

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Speaker 2: could all of these different companies all be increasing their

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Speaker 2: prices in the same way at the same time by

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Speaker 2: the same amount. That doesn't seem to match up with

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Speaker 2: any other variables. You can learn a ton more if

655
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Speaker 2: you look it up. It's pretty simple. Maybe the best

656
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: thing to search would be cardboard price fixing. Probably that's

657
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: the best thing. You can see a lot about it, guys.

658
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: There's one other story that we're not gonna fully talk

659
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: about here, but you should definitely look it up. There's

660
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: this company called Flock Safety that we have talked about

661
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: before on this show. This is a company that specifically

662
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 2: has cameras that are all over the place around four

663
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Speaker 2: thousand communities across the United States. These cameras are mounted

664
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Speaker 2: up everywhere and they are doing pretty specific thing. They're

665
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: looking at license plates. They read, scan, check out license plates,

666
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: and see where everybody goes. Well for a minute there

667
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: they were working with the Department of Homeland Security and

668
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Speaker 2: the Customs and Border Protection Crew there, I guess, and

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Speaker 2: they have decided to stop doing that out of fears

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Speaker 2: of what information they're actually providing. Department of Homeland Security

671
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: and these other groups like ICE. They're worried about a

672
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Speaker 2: lot of things. But there's a specific thing that you

673
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 2: can look up right now that they're worried about where

674
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: a sheriff was looking for specific woman and that woman

675
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: was suspected of I guess or wanted because she had

676
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Speaker 2: an abortion in an area where there are now state

677
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: laws against that, and flock Safety realized, oh crap, These

678
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: law enforcement officers can use this technology for anything they want,

679
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and not just the stuff that we are attempting to,

680
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, sell our product and services.

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: For, including personal stocking.

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Speaker 2: By the way, yes, but that's actually kind of good

683
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: news because flock Safety at least appears to be acknowledging

684
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: that that's a problem in stopping some of the behaviors

685
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: that we're putting, you know, people at risk. So yay,

686
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: look it up. You can find it on AP News

687
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: in a bunch of other places. Again, flock Safety, flock Safety.

688
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right back with more strange news.

689
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Speaker 5: And we have returned with the story of drama in

690
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: the friendly skies, or in this case, maybe the not

691
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: so friendly skies, and then we're gonna follow that up

692
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 5: and wrap with a very positive medical story out of Japan.

693
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Speaker 4: I bring up this Delta Airline.

694
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Speaker 5: Story because we are, of course here in Atlanta and

695
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 5: we all love flying those friendly skies, but they are

696
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 5: not immune to situations. As Ben might put it, a

697
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 5: male Delta passenger is suing the airline, claiming that he

698
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Speaker 5: was open handed slap by a flight attendant on a

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Speaker 5: Delta flight.

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Speaker 4: Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Dad is suing Delta Airlines after he claims a flight

702
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: attendant slapped him in the face during an altercation provoked

703
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Speaker 5: by a simple request for his family to be served water,

704
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Speaker 5: a move his lawyer claims was pure prejudice.

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Speaker 4: This is from the New York Post, which we don't

706
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: always love, but it.

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Speaker 5: Seems to be a relatively matter of fact report of

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Speaker 5: this incident, at least as in terms of the allegations

709
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Speaker 5: from this individual named Mohammed shib Lee Shabilee, Yeah, I

710
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: think that's right, who along with his wife and four

711
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Speaker 5: year old son and two year old son, were on

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Speaker 5: a Delta flight from Atlanta to Fresno, California, on July

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Speaker 5: twenty ninth, when his youngest requested water.

714
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Speaker 4: And as the New York Post puts, it was.

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Speaker 5: Crying for water, he and his legal team said during

716
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: a news conference on Tuesday. When the plane took off

717
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: and flight attendants made their rounds offering refreshments to passengers,

718
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Speaker 5: the accused attendant allegedly refused to serve Shibili's wife.

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Speaker 4: He told reporters, I'm just going to read the rest

720
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Speaker 4: of this because it's short.

721
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Speaker 5: Shabili vin got up and went to the back area

722
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 5: of the plane to request water, but the same flight

723
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: attendant allegedly refused, again, using a very disrespectful tone with him.

724
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Speaker 5: He said he did successfully get water from another attendant,

725
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Speaker 5: who apologized for their coworker. Despite the apologies, the situation escalated,

726
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Speaker 5: and ultimately, after a back and forth with the Q

727
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: flight attendant, Shibili claims that she slapped him after she

728
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: whispered a vulgar word into his ear, prompting him to

729
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: stand up and launch into some choice words of his own.

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Speaker 5: And then that's when he accuses her of snapping and

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Speaker 5: hitting him in the face open palm as hard as

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Speaker 5: she could.

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Speaker 4: There is a somewhat of a twist here.

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Speaker 5: Again, this is just allegedly, but the lawyer went on

735
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Speaker 5: to cite an alleged incident of discrimination by the airline

736
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Speaker 5: against Palestinians. When last July, an ex user posted two

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Speaker 5: photos of Delta flight attendants wearing Palestinian flag pins, which

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Speaker 5: were incorrectly described as Hamas Badger's during the flights.

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Speaker 4: Yikes, not cool.

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Speaker 5: Prompting a response from the airline, And I mean not

741
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 5: cool in terms of that's obviously incredibly reductive and insulting

742
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 5: to refer to them as that. So there is an

743
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 5: implication here, because of Shebili's national or perceived nationality, that

744
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 5: this represented a pattern of discrimination. At least that's what

745
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Speaker 5: the lawyers are saying.

746
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Speaker 3: Do we go to the specific pejorative.

747
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: No, we don't, Okay, we do not, just that it

748
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: was nasty as it was reported here. The lawyer posed

749
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Speaker 5: the question is this a single, isolated incident or is

750
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Speaker 5: it one a platform of clear discrimination against Palestinians to

751
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Speaker 5: a history of physical violence from Delta employees and three

752
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: negligent hiring. And this is coming from the lawyer Ali Awad,

753
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Speaker 5: who claimed the incident was triggered by Shoulbili's wife's shirt,

754
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Speaker 5: which had the word Palestine on it.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to look confused about the sighting of.

756
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Speaker 5: You know, like wearing of Palestinian flags by flight attendants

757
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: as being a negative here. It would seem that that

758
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Speaker 5: would represent support of Palestinians. So it's a little convoluted

759
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: in the way this is being reported, But I do

760
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: want to say that I have an inside scoop on

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00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: this story. Someone that I've been hanging out with is

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00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 5: a flight attendant for Delta and is the one that

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Speaker 5: hit me to the story in the first place, and

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Speaker 5: sent me some chatter from some kind of Delta centric

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Speaker 5: flight attendants forums, which I know that you're aware of,

766
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 5: Ben as well as I know you have relationships with

767
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Speaker 5: folks who have worked for that organization as well, and

768
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of groups on the Internet communities for

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Speaker 5: folks that are employed by Delta and I'm sure other airlines.

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Speaker 5: So and initially she sent me a report just kind

771
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Speaker 5: of giving the rundown of the press release and the

772
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Speaker 5: statement from the lawyer, but then sent me a really

773
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 5: interesting screenshot of a thread on another forum. Was on

774
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Speaker 5: that flight with my wife in fifteen month old daughter.

775
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: Flight attendant never slapped him. He in fact pushed one

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00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: of the flight attendants. Next, we've got another comment from

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Speaker 5: somebody who was on board. I was waiting on a

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Speaker 5: witness because there is no way no one else saw

779
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: the incident. He was yelling out that one of the

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Speaker 5: flight attendants called him a which also never happened. People

781
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 5: will do anything for a free check, so it would

782
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: appear that this is, you know, you know, innocent until

783
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 5: proven guilty. This is a bit of a case of

784
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: manufacturing some faults outrage in the hopes of.

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Speaker 4: Getting a payday.

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Speaker 5: Let's see, there's some really fun takes on a Reddit

787
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Speaker 5: passenger slap by FA thread. This is also on a

788
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Speaker 5: Reddit Delta thread, so a lot of FA means flight attendant.

789
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: There's a lot of shorthands used by folks in that community,

790
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 5: and let's see slap what slap? I didn't see any slap.

791
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Speaker 5: Anyone else not see a slap, But if there was,

792
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: and there definitely wasn't because I didn't see anything, a

793
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 5: racist piece is exactly the type of person who would

794
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 5: rightfully earn such a thing. Initial reports said that the

795
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: individual who received the slap used some horrible racist language.

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Speaker 5: That very much appears to not be the case as well.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of misinformation swirling around this. But

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Speaker 5: my favorite bit here is I pray that Delta will

799
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Speaker 5: realize that the best way to improve the flying experience

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Speaker 5: for ninety percent of his customers is to permit FA slappings.

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Speaker 2: I would sign.

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Speaker 5: I would sign away my right to sue Delta if

803
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Speaker 5: I could fly with a plane full of people who

804
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Speaker 5: knew that those fas arms toned from safety belt demonstrations

805
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Speaker 5: and hauling drinks carts up turbulent aisles where a hair

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Speaker 5: trigger away from slapping bad passengers.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, great language to use the word turbulent. There are

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Speaker 3: absolutely couple right.

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Speaker 5: Out, very very very good, very very good. So the

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Speaker 5: jury is still out on what actually happened. Here another

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Speaker 5: comment here on that forum, they are calling for all

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Speaker 5: Delta employees to receive education and sensitivity training on Palestine

813
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: and the Palestinian people. Hope Delta rip him and his

814
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 5: lawyer a new one. Things like this is how you

815
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 5: alienate people from a cause. Initially I said the same

816
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: thing that this next user said. I'm sure there is

817
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 5: more to the story. Doubt a gal making one hundred

818
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 5: k a year flight attendants, paid very well and benefits

819
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 5: just randomly slaps some random customer in the face. I

820
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Speaker 5: hope Delta backs her and if they can prove he

821
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Speaker 5: was out of line or caused it, bans him for life.

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Speaker 5: And here's the fun part. And by fun. I mean,

823
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Speaker 5: I just the I guess symbolic gesture of what this

824
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: individual is asking for. In the lawsuit, the settlement request

825
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 5: of one day of Delta's earnings is moored to a

826
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Speaker 5: precedent whereby a defendant company, corporations total assets can be

827
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: considered in the award of damages in a civil suit

828
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: cause of action to be determined by a jury for

829
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Speaker 5: purposes of punitive damages.

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Speaker 4: But if the stories of.

831
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: Him being the at fault party or true, this clown

832
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: and his attorney need to be dragged over the.

833
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: Coals either way, not kinda happen.

834
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Speaker 4: Happen.

835
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Speaker 3: You won't get a day of Delta's full time pay now.

836
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Speaker 5: And then I saw a number associated with that, and

837
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 5: maybe Ben you know more about the Delta earnings than

838
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 5: I do, but it was you know, millions of dollars

839
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Speaker 5: of course, and Ben off Bank.

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Speaker 4: We were chatting a little bit.

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Speaker 5: You had you made a good point about where this

842
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 5: might end up going, whether the dude was in the

843
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 5: wrong or not.

844
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Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, no, we you, Matt and I were talking

845
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: off air with that real quick. It feels like a

846
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: negotiation tactic which our legal beagles in the crowds night

847
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: are very familiar with. Right, you want ten dollars, you

848
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: asked for ten thousand, and then you just you just

849
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: make it easy to get out. I would pause it

850
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: without us knowing the full facts other than what you

851
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: have shared with us in your reporting, Noll, I would

852
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: pause it. There is some kind of quiet settlement on

853
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: the way one way or another, especially pulling in geopolitics

854
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: right and the arguments of discrimination based on ethnicity or

855
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: nation or political identification. I also got to tell you

856
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: this reminds me. As soon as you brought this to us,

857
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: this reminded me of another thing that American airlines are getting.

858
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: Airlines based in the US are getting in trouble for

859
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: keep my flub there, dull it, because there is an

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00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: American airlines right. So, Delta and United Airlines are currently

861
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: getting sued as of last week for charging people for

862
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: windows seats that do not indeed come with a window.

863
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Speaker 5: Finally happens all the time where you're in that in

864
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Speaker 5: between spot and you're looking at plastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah the time has come. Yeah, No good, they're charging

866
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: you extra to get those windows. All I'm saying with

867
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Speaker 3: that is in their grand calculus, if there's already you

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00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: know x amount of class action lawsuits going in and

869
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: they're getting terrible bad press for this incident, then it

870
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Speaker 3: might move the appoicus a little. I'm interested in hearing

871
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: you all's thoughts, like, do we think there might just

872
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: be a quiet settlement, a shut up and go away

873
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: thing at.

874
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 4: Play, or is this a making an example thing?

875
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 5: Or is the Palestine Israel conflict just too hot that

876
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 5: they don't even want to enter into the chat. They'd

877
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: rather just just make it go away, you know what

878
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 5: I mean? Yeah, And I'm certain if there is malfeasance

879
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 5: going on from on the part of the individual making

880
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 5: these accusations, that that's certainly played into it. To your point,

881
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 5: bend setting the bar high with this a day of

882
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 5: earnings nonsense, knowing that a settlement might still yield them

883
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: one hundred grand or so. But to the point of

884
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: the folks chatting online and in some of these flight

885
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 5: attendant groups, I think they're hoping that they'd make an

886
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 5: example of this individual to show that this kind of

887
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 5: stuff won't stand.

888
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: Fas have to put up with so much stuff. You know,

889
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: people hand in you dirty diapers, literally spitting gum into

890
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: your hand. It's rough.

891
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 4: Imagine. I can't imagine one hundred percent.

892
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 5: And I think all three of us mind our p's

893
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 5: and ques, and we're on flights and like try to

894
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 5: be the absolute model passengers and if nothing if.

895
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: Not overly cooperative. Dude, you know the humans, why do

896
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: I ever?

897
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: I absolutely kiss ass with flight attendants, even if you.

898
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 4: Get good information from them too. Ben, we were on

899
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 4: a flight together from the Middle East.

900
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: You were very cordial with our lovely flight attendant, and

901
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 5: you got some really good intel on some stuff to

902
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 5: see and insider scoop on places to go.

903
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: It's it's a great resource.

904
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: If you, you know, are are kind and uh and curious,

905
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 5: which you respect.

906
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: Listenings, Oh, thank you? Yeah, and so.

907
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: Never mind the extra pretzels.

908
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll get that angry message later. I can't

909
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: believe your entire conversation was based on extra pretzels. The

910
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: betrayal you sky bound Judas.

911
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 5: But pro tip, though, they will usually give you two

912
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 5: bags if you ask nicely.

913
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, if you ask, If.

914
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 5: You just say I want cookies and pretzels, they'll give

915
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: them to you.

916
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: You do, exactly. It's all about yes.

917
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: And we're we're from Atlanta, so we have already if

918
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: this were a role playing game or D and D,

919
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: we already have like a plus one or two on

920
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: folksy charisma because we are I think we all are

921
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: quite diplomatic when we speak to people, and I really

922
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: appreciate that. Like you can also, Matt, by the way,

923
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 3: just so you know, I'm sure you're aware. But when

924
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: they when you order a drink like irregular beverage or whatever,

925
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: you can ask them for the whole cannesota. They'll give it.

926
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, please please?

927
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: Can you ask him to put a little vodka in? No,

928
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that, say like real cheeky like that,

929
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: but pull a little vodka in.

930
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you could do that bad smoke show.

931
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: We should, we should. We've got to test this together. Uh,

932
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: maybe we can catch the same flight to our dis

933
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: embarkment point or our embarkment point for our upcoming live show.

934
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: Our Conspiracy Cruise are True Crime Cruise technically with Virgin

935
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: voyages October tenth through the fifteenth of this very year. Guys,

936
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

937
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: Think we've booked our flight sets in Miami, which I've

938
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 5: never been to, so we should definitely run this test together.

939
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: I need you to put the Will Smith song on

940
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: your hot summer gold playlist.

941
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 5: No, now, Will Smith is dead to all of us. What, bro,

942
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 5: have you followed his cringe like come back rap stuff

943
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 5: that's going on right now?

944
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: I've heard it, But I don't follow celebrities.

945
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: I know. Okay, you're so above it, Ben, I appreciate.

946
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm just it's just not avery of interest.

947
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: But you're into hip hop and you obviously are a

948
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 5: fan of Will Smith's previous.

949
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: Well, it's really bad.

950
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 5: I just but Miami is an unequivocal bang.

951
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: Are You're not wrong? There?

952
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

953
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: I like Miami.

954
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: It's fun.

955
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 4: It's clearly his best song other than the Fresh Prints theme.

956
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: Pretty good Miami.

957
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: You guys know Will is a big fan of this show.

958
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: He's listening right now. And sorry, man, yeah, little that

959
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: the newest rap just wasn't necessarily Do you guys.

960
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: Remember the name of his album, Big Willie Style.

961
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: Oh that's yeah, that did not age one Dylan unmuted

962
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 5: and then muted.

963
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, Will aniums better than Big WILLI.

964
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: Oh just makes me titter.

965
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's he doesn't light the cigar, but he does

966
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: bite it. Again.

967
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Think about how tame that album title is now though,

968
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: like just how tame that is?

969
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: Now? For sure? But honestly, do you think he was

970
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: going for a penis reference? I don't think he was.

971
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: I think it's an inverted penis reference. Again, it's hard

972
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 5: to say, y'all. Ye'll let us know. Do you think

973
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: big Willie style is an overt reference to having you know,

974
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: a large chunk? Is it the the early two thousands,

975
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 5: late nineties equivalent of big energy?

976
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Let us know BWS right before BD.

977
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: Well, will Smith doesn't have to cuss in his wraps

978
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: to sell records, but we do.

979
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so f him and FU two. No, Actually, we

980
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: love all of you. Someone wrap that one up, And

981
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I promised.

982
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: That one up.

983
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: I'll wrap it up. Indeed, I promised a feel good story.

984
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 5: We won't get too much into the details because we

985
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 5: we burned a lot of time talking to Delta, but

986
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 5: I think it was time well burnt. Japanese scientists have

987
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 5: developed a method for removing the chromosome associated with down syndrome,

988
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: which I think is fantastic. And I probably should have

989
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: led with that one because it sounds like I'm prioritizing

990
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 5: sky Drama over this. Absolutely life changing scientific development. Down

991
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: syndrome is the most common chromosomal abnormality caused by the

992
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: presence of an extra copy of chromosome twenty one.

993
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: Try some me twenty one.

994
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 5: This is also reading verbatim here from medtour dot com

995
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: reporting on this. This genetic disorder leads to physical characteristics

996
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 5: developmental delays, including congenital heart defects, hearing impairments, and learning

997
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 5: and speech difficulties. But researchers at my University in Japan

998
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 5: have made an important breakthrough. They have developed a gene

999
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 5: editing method using Crisper technology. The Cast nine Crisper system

1000
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 5: are any incredible genetic innovation to remove that extra chromosome.

1001
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: The result so the study published in the journal PNAS

1002
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 5: Nexus describe how the Crisper CAST nine system used to

1003
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 5: modify DNA can remove the extra chromosome from affected cells.

1004
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 5: Crisper uses enzymes to search for specific DNA sequences and

1005
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: once a match is found, is capable of removing entire

1006
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 5: strands of genetic material. This is fantastic, you know, I mean,

1007
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 5: this is absolute game changer. But then the question becomes

1008
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 5: who gets it? Who gets access to this? Is it

1009
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 5: very expensive? I don't have the answer to that. It

1010
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 5: is not really part of the conversation yet. I don't

1011
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 5: think this is something that is available yet. It is

1012
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 5: just the results of a study. In addition to laboratory

1013
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: cell culture, scientists tested Crisper on skin fibroblasts taken from

1014
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 5: people with Down syndrome. The method worked again, successfully removing

1015
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 5: the extra chromosome in several cases. However, Crisper can also

1016
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 5: affect healthy cells, so researchers emphasize the techechnology is still

1017
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 5: a long way from clinical application. The research teams currently

1018
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: working on improving the technique so that editing only affects

1019
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 5: cells with trismine. So seems like a promising development. But again,

1020
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: with all this gene editing stuff, it does become a

1021
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 5: question of who who gets it, who gets access to it?

1022
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: I yield my time. What do y'all think?

1023
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. You nailed it, I think

1024
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: because the issue here was in conversations with some folks

1025
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: about this quite recently, the issue with all the phenomenal

1026
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: technological progress occurring now at a breakdeck pace is that

1027
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: we're not seeing the same social progress. The milieu in

1028
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: which these these breakthroughs exist itself is not evolving, right,

1029
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: These are antiquated systems. So imagine, if you will, the

1030
01:02:53,800 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: entire world was still a bunch of relatively inefficient monarchies

1031
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: and those are the folks who discovered penicillin. How would

1032
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: that work out? You know what I mean. So there's

1033
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: a very good argument that human civilization is going to

1034
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: have to evolve in order to fully realize the importance

1035
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: and the opportunity of technological innovations. Again, I yield my time.

1036
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: Well, no, casting it as a human right rather than

1037
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: something for the elites, and immediately thinking about it from

1038
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: a monetary, you know, commercial perspective, and that's just that's

1039
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 5: just that's the system that we live in, and it sucks.

1040
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 5: So when you're talking about evolution, we're talking about evolution

1041
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 5: of the social norms and mora's of our American culture.

1042
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 5: This is not something that exists in that same form,

1043
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 5: in that same structure in other parts of the world.

1044
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 4: And it is utterly.

1045
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what without the utterly left part. That's that's

1046
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you know, like being.

1047
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 5: I'm agreeing with the United States. Yeah, you're right on point.

1048
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 5: What do you think that stuff?

1049
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got hit in the face with a story

1050
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: that came out as we've been recording today about a

1051
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: mass shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota at a Catholic school where

1052
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: a bunch of kids were in church and a couple

1053
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: of tiny little kids got killed by some young twenty

1054
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: something that went on a shooting spree. And I'm just sorry.

1055
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that as we're talking about this, and

1056
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: just thinking about.

1057
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 5: And how unremarkable stories like that are. We've talked about

1058
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 5: this in the past as well. I think one time

1059
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 5: where something similar happened and it didn't even hit our

1060
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: radar for that day's strange news, because it is so

1061
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 5: sadly unremarkable.

1062
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 4: In this country.

1063
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 5: And we're not soapboxing here at anybody. It's just the

1064
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 5: reality of it.

1065
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 4: It sucks.

1066
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: What's hitting me is just the fact that we live

1067
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: in a world where this kind of thing had happened, right,

1068
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: where a group of researchers can put a lot of

1069
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: time and effort into helping so many people, and then

1070
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: some other person in some other part of the world

1071
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: can just pick up a gun and end the lives

1072
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: of a bunch of people. And you know, just the

1073
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: feeling of it happening simultaneously is a bit overwhelming to me.

1074
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: And we're going to talk about more of that in

1075
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: our conversation on animal communication, which is publishing quite soon.

1076
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: The idea that these technological breakthroughs are occurring in civilizations

1077
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: and indeed in a natural environment that is increasingly imperiled.

1078
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, folks, that nothing occurs in a vacuum.

1079
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: There are systemic causes to these things that are often

1080
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: often reported as unfortunate one off incidents. And so, as

1081
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: Noel said, we're not going to soapbox here, but we

1082
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 3: are well aware of these conversations that need to continue.

1083
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: We cannot continue these explorations without the help of you,

1084
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: specifically you the most important part of the show. So

1085
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 3: thank you, as always so much for tuning in. We

1086
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: are going to be back with learning to talk to animals.

1087
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: I think we'll finally hop off the Anunaki saddle for

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Speaker 3: a moment. We never know.

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Speaker 5: We are always grew, always lurking around the corner somewhere right.

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Speaker 3: And we are always always in the midst of a

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Speaker 3: great conundrum, which is that there is so much strange news.

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Speaker 3: We know we will not get to everything, but we

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Speaker 3: know we must continue, So help us out in this

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Speaker 3: regard in our strange enterprise to boldly go into the

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Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. You can give

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Speaker 3: us a call on a telephone. You can always find

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Speaker 3: us for an email where we'll send a random fact

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Speaker 3: to you. Or you can find us on the internet.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 5: You can find us at the handle Conspiracy Stuff where

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Speaker 5: we exist on Facebook with our Facebook group.

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Speaker 4: Here's where it gets crazy.

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Speaker 5: Get in on the conversation, toss some memes around, share

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Speaker 5: your perspective on legal slapping by flight attendants. We want

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Speaker 5: to know what you think. You can also find it's

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Speaker 5: that handle on x fk a Twitter and on YouTube.

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Speaker 5: We have video content glore for your perusing enjoyment on

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Speaker 5: Instagram and TikTok over. We're Conspiracy Stuff Show and there's more.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have a phone number. It is one eight

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Speaker 2: three three STDWYTK. It's a voicemail system. When you call in,

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Speaker 2: let us know what the biggest cardboard box you've ever

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Speaker 2: dealt with.

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Speaker 5: Was and hats absolutely disappear into it when it was done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how did you get that thing into your

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Speaker 2: recycling bin? Ah? That's not easy ever, box cutter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is a voicemail system. So when you call in,

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Speaker 2: give yourself a cool nickname so we'll know when you

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Speaker 2: call in again, and we'll put your name in the

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Speaker 2: system and everything and let us know within the message

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Speaker 2: if we can use your name and message on the air,

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Speaker 2: if you'd like to send us an email.

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Speaker 3: We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence

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Speaker 3: we receive. Be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void

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Speaker 3: writes back conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuff they don't want you to know. Is a production

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Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.