Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm when your
Speaker 1: hosts c J. Toldano, joined by my wife Gagan Gaily. Hi, Hi,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm pretty good. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Doing great? Doing great? Post Thanksgiving? I already don't want
Speaker 1: to do anything. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. Okay, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling? Did you eat well on Thanksgiving? Yes,
Speaker 1: I I very well. You saw me and I felt
Speaker 1: all levels of sickness. But yeah, I'm happy about what
Speaker 1: we did. I'm happy about what we did to um,
Speaker 1: let's bring in our guests so then we can really
Speaker 1: get the Thanksgiving talk popping. Um you want to intro? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not? A very very good friend to both of us,
Speaker 1: very very funny comedian writer direct after why we you know?
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why we're having him on the
Speaker 1: show is because he has a new movie coming out.
Speaker 1: Pre orders are already up. I've heard it's important. It's
Speaker 1: called Derek's Dead. Without further ado, welcoming the star, the writer,
Speaker 1: the director. Maybe edited it a little bit bit, Kurt
Speaker 1: Neil I did edit the whole thing pretty much. Clay
Speaker 1: helped a little. That's incredible. Yeah, it could have been bad.
Speaker 1: I don't maybe I edited it bad. I don't. Nobody
Speaker 1: said anything yet, so I think I did good. Um, No,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did great. So it's very very funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw there was a I think it was like
Speaker 1: the week of our wedding, because Kurt, you came into town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you did a little premier downtown. It was like
Speaker 1: the Monday before the wedding, we did a little friends
Speaker 1: and friends and family thing at the Damntown Independent. My
Speaker 1: parents and my brother were there. That was tight, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of pell shut up. I just I literally
Speaker 1: assumed Megan was just too busy, because she's now that
Speaker 1: I hear it, it's like, well, I'm like, what was
Speaker 1: I doing? What was I doing? And it's like I
Speaker 1: was obviously somewhere just being a bit about the wedding.
Speaker 1: Of course you had every reason not to be there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I was very hungry that week. Um, And so
Speaker 1: they're they're just were there were in a lot of
Speaker 1: activities on my plate. Um, Kurt is joining us from Oregon.
Speaker 1: I love Oregon. It's a beautiful stay. I'm in Pleasant Hill, Oregon,
Speaker 1: which is right by Eugene, Oregon. I mean that's not
Speaker 1: even like that name even. Yeah, that's exactly where I
Speaker 1: grew up. You go south from Eugene, you take fifty
Speaker 1: eight high. With fifty eight, you got this little hill
Speaker 1: after the gas station. That's literally where Pleasant Hill starts,
Speaker 1: where the first driveway on the right. Tell us, tell
Speaker 1: us about the kind of trees you're seeing up there.
Speaker 1: We got we got a bunch of pine, um and
Speaker 1: then we got them all to be perfectly honest, I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed because I can't name more than pine. But we've
Speaker 1: got pine, for sure. But you got big ones, huge
Speaker 1: ones in the forest, and we got little ones in
Speaker 1: the city with all the leaves, and they turned around
Speaker 1: and now they're on the street, and now everybody's blowing
Speaker 1: the leaves and that seems like a waste of time,
Speaker 1: but everybody's doing it. Um, Well, they blow them into bags, right,
Speaker 1: they blow them. But why do you do that? Can't
Speaker 1: you just leave them there? Well? I don't know what
Speaker 1: they do, honestly, I've seen people do it my whole life.
Speaker 1: Do they burn them? Doday? Is there a special recycling
Speaker 1: land for leaves? Real? You can't burn them? But the
Speaker 1: only specific times. There's sometimes you can't burn because everything's
Speaker 1: too dry. You gotta make sure enough to burn. But
Speaker 1: I meant like, does someone in charge burn them? Probably
Speaker 1: just one guy, I think Mr Mr Leaf Incinerator, which
Speaker 1: a college. He had to get it. He had to
Speaker 1: get a PhD in Ah inflammable. Two things here, just
Speaker 1: just I just want to let the audience in on
Speaker 1: Kurt Um. Not only you're you're comedian with all that
Speaker 1: stuff that we named earlier, but you're also are our
Speaker 1: friend that really really brings out the silliest and everyone
Speaker 1: you hang out with me specifically, so this is a
Speaker 1: cool compliment. Thanks man, dude. Yeah no, Megan because so
Speaker 1: uh we played that quip lash game. Yeah, and again
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of this interesting, but Megan
Speaker 1: like rolled her eyes when she saw immediately you and
Speaker 1: I want to roll my eyes interact. You weren't even
Speaker 1: with me. You weren't even with me. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: oh when I watched you guys, but you're saying you
Speaker 1: saw me roll my eyes. That's the appropriate response. But
Speaker 1: the thing is people on this thing and me and
Speaker 1: are making jokes at each other. Yeah, and they weren't good.
Speaker 1: They were I voted for a lot of yours. Her
Speaker 1: was the winning ist. I was second winning in our
Speaker 1: in our flip, we be a man in Louis for Tell,
Speaker 1: who I have so much respect and admiration for it
Speaker 1: has been on Jeopardy is one of the funniest, smartest people.
Speaker 1: And you and c J were able to effectively silence
Speaker 1: a genius just by being didn't you know? I left?
Speaker 1: I left the zoom feeling guilty that the guy never
Speaker 1: got to say anything? Did you know that the guy
Speaker 1: get out worded? I've never met him in my wo
Speaker 1: Kurt you were you were rost hurt. He has a
Speaker 1: famous gift, one of the most famous gifts of all
Speaker 1: time on the internet. He's the gift Master, which well
Speaker 1: he didn't even he was just on Jeopardy and he
Speaker 1: got um uh is that? When do they got like
Speaker 1: the Jeopardy you know, the Daily, the Daily Dopers what
Speaker 1: my dad calls it. See, I mean I come from
Speaker 1: silly stuff, so he got the Daily Silly and your
Speaker 1: family and then he like snaps and and he's just
Speaker 1: the best. He's so smart too. And then the apologized
Speaker 1: to him once I cut him off, and I said, sorry,
Speaker 1: you didn't get that joke in man, that's not like
Speaker 1: cutting roast. But no, it wasn't me personally. And then
Speaker 1: what else I was gonna say, we're gonna leave. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lead this back to sports. But the leaves thing, uh,
Speaker 1: this is a story from another podcast. Truly, this has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything except for the leaves fun story. Pasadena,
Speaker 1: So hallow, the movie Halloween was filmed in Pasadena, less
Speaker 1: than ten minutes from where we Megan and I sit today,
Speaker 1: and this is crazy. So they would carry around one
Speaker 1: bag of leaves because it was like filmed during the
Speaker 1: summer when there was no leaves, not leaves kind of
Speaker 1: anytime anytime, yeah, here in l A. And so one
Speaker 1: person would carry around the same bag of leaves where
Speaker 1: they shot, yeah, the leaves, and then they would after
Speaker 1: the scene was done, they would then put the leaves
Speaker 1: back in the bag, and then they would another location.
Speaker 1: And then there was obviously someone like some sort of
Speaker 1: set person that was like, if you do lose a leave.
Speaker 1: We hear these stories in Hollywood, Like the one that's
Speaker 1: coming to mind is like the guy that had to
Speaker 1: hold Russell Crowe's cigarette for him when he was playing
Speaker 1: a boxer in something and he like couldn't. So there's
Speaker 1: all of these There was a guy and they're gonna
Speaker 1: do this, so I won't even say they stole it
Speaker 1: for me. They should do like a a MC series
Speaker 1: where they interview whoever that like person is that there's
Speaker 1: these Hollywood urban legends about love that almost like a
Speaker 1: drunk history thing where like p A's go and tell
Speaker 1: their terrible stories. You would be a lot be a
Speaker 1: lot of drivers. I'm talking about this. This is a
Speaker 1: good idea. Nicky Rooney threatened to murderer guy if his
Speaker 1: wife was in the water for five more minutes for
Speaker 1: this weird movie I was working on his wife. Him
Speaker 1: and his wife were also in it and it was
Speaker 1: all it all had to be night shoots, but there
Speaker 1: was also a lot of water stuff, so it was
Speaker 1: like coal. And they're both Mickey Rooney, his wife like
Speaker 1: Mickey Rooney like eighty. His wife was at least like sixties.
Speaker 1: Um who had to be in the water for this thing.
Speaker 1: And they were like going beyond when they were supposed
Speaker 1: to go, and Mickey and the producer had like the
Speaker 1: egg Mickey Rooney to let him keep shooting, and Mickey
Speaker 1: Rooney like was right that, like, hey, she shouldn't be
Speaker 1: in the water anymore. But he went too far when
Speaker 1: he's like, if anything happens to her, I'll fucking killing you. Wow.
Speaker 1: He is he passed? Is he passed? He might be
Speaker 1: by now, because I just don't want I don't want
Speaker 1: him to come for our podcast. It to somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't know if CJ wants Mikey Rooney. I don't know
Speaker 1: if c J wants to brought up, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: accidentally bring it up. Someone last week was like, have
Speaker 1: you ever eaten bugs? Was asking me like if I
Speaker 1: had ever eaten bugs? And I was like, god, I
Speaker 1: think I I feel like I eat a grasshopper or something.
Speaker 1: And then and then they were like and then I go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got high and ate grasshoppers with two NBA legends
Speaker 1: and somehow the story. I just was like, I can't
Speaker 1: remember if I ate a bug. And then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was with John Sally and Nate Robinson and we
Speaker 1: got high while eating bugs together and it left my
Speaker 1: brain somehow. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't think a week ago, and I've been excited
Speaker 1: for this white since July or whatever. But Megan and
Speaker 1: I are very connected to Nate Robins. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's not very connected, but we both met him.
Speaker 1: We text every day. Yeah, we've both met him. We've
Speaker 1: both met his assistant slash friend same one maybe not
Speaker 1: um and we both loved him and he like complimented.
Speaker 1: CJ met him first. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. He did
Speaker 1: the House Highlights show and maybe one of my fair guests.
Speaker 1: He let a snake in spider and he was before
Speaker 1: the show. He took a shirt off him and his
Speaker 1: friend uh and played ping pong, like very very competitively,
Speaker 1: and like we had to pull him in to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you gotta put on his shirt and do the show
Speaker 1: you're here for. And then I'm then like months later, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met him maybe six months later, and I was
Speaker 1: obviously like nervous. I was wearing these really thick edge
Speaker 1: shoes they're called Melissa's and so I was substantially taller
Speaker 1: than him, and so I was like chatting with him,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, I actually think you've met
Speaker 1: my boyfriend I think was my boyfriend at the time,
Speaker 1: and I was like House the Highlights and he goes
Speaker 1: Indian and I go Filipino, and he goes, that's right.
Speaker 1: But I was like, there isn't the other guy's Indian?
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't being like he just was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's which one for the Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the record, to Nate and I bonded over fashion over clothes.
Speaker 1: He really Yeah, I didn't know you were a close guy.
Speaker 1: So we're sad about Nate. We're trying to say, but
Speaker 1: he wasnt. Sigh. I don't. I wasn't even close to
Speaker 1: the guy, and I was pretty bumped. I don't. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a Pacific Northwest guy as well, like he rips.
Speaker 1: He was just a cool basketball player in Jake Paul's
Speaker 1: trash like, of course everyone was sad for Nate Robinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so, can can I ask you? Because I
Speaker 1: I've been obsessed over the last couple of days, Like
Speaker 1: I've been doing a deep dive on like what was
Speaker 1: going on through Nate's like, and I watched the vlogs
Speaker 1: before and you know, truly the magic of editing in sports.
Speaker 1: It's like he looked like he was training for real,
Speaker 1: but well he's also like so like he must have
Speaker 1: just assumed like he's the only athlete between the two,
Speaker 1: so he's probably fine. Looks like Jake Paul actually worked
Speaker 1: pretty hard. Well, I guess he was like boxing before.
Speaker 1: I don't know the difference between Jake Paul and Logan Paul,
Speaker 1: but I know I don't like either one exactly. And
Speaker 1: even if you were like, no, this one is better,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Nope, someone made a joke about now
Speaker 1: he's just like he's following in his older brother's footstep,
Speaker 1: staring at a dead guy or something because younger one
Speaker 1: I thought he was the one that did that. That's
Speaker 1: what I thought too, And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: if that's your role model, you know, like like if
Speaker 1: your big brother is the worst piece of ship, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna You're either gonna be like incredible or you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the next worst piece of ship. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: either have the one up or like do something. And
Speaker 1: so Nate from the Greatest and Curt Neil, we are
Speaker 1: sending you a speedy recovery. I'm sure he's okay at
Speaker 1: this point, but he's still like one. I sent the
Speaker 1: video to um Curtain Eyes. Brother. We call it the
Speaker 1: brother Ball chat Room up. But there's a video of
Speaker 1: of him at at the j W. Marriott. There was like, um,
Speaker 1: this guy who falls boxing video taping and does like
Speaker 1: interviews and he recorded Nate coming into the hotel the
Speaker 1: j W. And he's like, no, what's up the Nate?
Speaker 1: Like Nate was so cool and like he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Nate. I know my first ye I'm good at
Speaker 1: that j W. This is the j W. Ris Carlton
Speaker 1: is that was called Rich Carlton. There was a Rich
Speaker 1: Charles in Indianapolis and I was like, no, it was
Speaker 1: Rich Charles. And it's like that's clearly a rip off,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's tipsy, what did you call it? Cheeter brand,
Speaker 1: cheer everything, all these connects. There's a whole season. There's
Speaker 1: like a whole plot on Real Housewives in New York
Speaker 1: Desperate Housewife. Okay, so you are like, where do you
Speaker 1: go to see celebs in l A. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you. But the one place where I
Speaker 1: see more celebs in anywhere else, it's the Ritz Carlton
Speaker 1: j W. Marriott in l A. Live Meagan, I swear
Speaker 1: to God, when I last place, you think they'd be
Speaker 1: like why are you well They're the reason I've seen
Speaker 1: people there is for the SPS. That's where everybody stays.
Speaker 1: Staples said, well, but then, like anything that's happening at
Speaker 1: Staples Center, and then Microsoft Theater is like the Grammys
Speaker 1: and Awards. So he he literally in the video he
Speaker 1: walks to the elevators, and all I could think of
Speaker 1: was when you were in the elevator with DeAndre Jordan's yes,
Speaker 1: and what was the joke he said in there? It's
Speaker 1: of the elevator was packed because the SPS had just
Speaker 1: ended like five minutes ago, so it was packed maybe
Speaker 1: fifteen people in an elevator like craziness, and a guy
Speaker 1: like pops up like right as it's closing, and he's like, DeAndre,
Speaker 1: can I get twenty bucks? Like a stranger? And then
Speaker 1: the doors closed and it's kind of quiet, and then
Speaker 1: DeAndre looks at all us because what the fuck, and
Speaker 1: we're all like, yeah, what the funk? That was weird?
Speaker 1: And so then and so then people are having laughs,
Speaker 1: and then he's getting off the elevator and as the
Speaker 1: doors were closing, I go, hey, DeAndre, can I get
Speaker 1: twenty dollars? So and then then then the elevator and
Speaker 1: then the elevator laughed at me, and I think he
Speaker 1: was probably the only woman on the elevator, Like I
Speaker 1: felt like I it was my moment. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: just done that out of nowhere. That's guts even a
Speaker 1: goal for in that scenario. That's like, that's a great joke.
Speaker 1: But then we saw Jamal Hill in the lobby and
Speaker 1: I was so drunk holding my shoes like barefoot, like
Speaker 1: you are a hero to me. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: John white woman celebrating the black woman, saw the what's
Speaker 1: the bad? What's Floyd and others crew get money gang
Speaker 1: the money. Then they had they have like eight rolls
Speaker 1: Royces outside of their ones like or yeah, a double
Speaker 1: decker Rose Royce. Um. Okay, so Kurt, we'll get it
Speaker 1: back to you. We just needed to talk about Nate
Speaker 1: Robinson a little bit and Leaves. But so this is
Speaker 1: a question only specific to you. Are you a good athlete?
Speaker 1: It is a total set up. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you are. I've heard your good basketball, but yet you
Speaker 1: you are? You are? No. I just love I've always
Speaker 1: loved your confidence and just like you're one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people to talk about kind of just like high
Speaker 1: school uh, sports stories and right, so it was good
Speaker 1: as Yeah, what what did you play growing up? And
Speaker 1: and catch us up on some of your your kind
Speaker 1: of playing career. Sure, thanks that this is a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for me growing up a little like through junior
Speaker 1: high it was football, basketball, baseball, the Big three by
Speaker 1: the end of eighth grade, and which one were you
Speaker 1: the best at? Football? Absolutely? And position did you play
Speaker 1: football as a youth? That was just kind of receiver. Um,
Speaker 1: as I got into high school and like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: as fast as the other guys. By then, I was
Speaker 1: a tight end and I played I played cornerback on defense,
Speaker 1: two way starter. But after I quit basketball after eighth
Speaker 1: grade because I wasn't good. Um, I hit it. There
Speaker 1: was one game in eighth grade. It was I think
Speaker 1: that was the first year we had three pointers, and
Speaker 1: at one point I got the ball and like no
Speaker 1: one was open and I was just desperately looking to
Speaker 1: pass it, and then everybody was just saying shoot it, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, So I shot a three and
Speaker 1: I made it. I got cool, and I go back
Speaker 1: on defense. But as I'm going back on defense, I
Speaker 1: look over and every single parent in the crowd on
Speaker 1: their feet, just losing their minds because Kurt hit a
Speaker 1: three pointer. In that moment, as like a twelve or
Speaker 1: thirteen year old kid, I was like, alright, basketball is
Speaker 1: not for me. That I have a good deal when
Speaker 1: I hit a three man basketball is not for me.
Speaker 1: And I didn't feel like I'm the bad in that moment.
Speaker 1: I just it's probably in retrospect it was dumb, like
Speaker 1: I was. Probably okay, I probably should have kept playing,
Speaker 1: but then it was all about football baseball. In high school,
Speaker 1: I was really good. Second team All State football, uh
Speaker 1: team MVP, first team All League baseball pitcher. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so left handed. I was surprised that you didn't play quarterback.
Speaker 1: I get quarterback pipes from me, and you're tall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It didn't transfer for some reason. Even though I was
Speaker 1: a pitcher in baseball, I couldn't throw a football very
Speaker 1: well and from a very young age, from the second
Speaker 1: I like tried out for football, I was just really
Speaker 1: good at going and getting the ball. I had like
Speaker 1: exceptionally good hands. Unfortunately for all the other kids. UM.
Speaker 1: When I tried out for football in fourth grade for
Speaker 1: the first time, I played with the fifth graders. UM now,
Speaker 1: I'm were there black people at your school? Oh? I
Speaker 1: just genuinely, I was genuinely curt very just there was one.
Speaker 1: There was like one or two at a time. There's
Speaker 1: a kid, Drew that was like two years old. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was cool. He's a good baseball player. And then
Speaker 1: there was Tyrone who was a year younger than he
Speaker 1: was a badass football player. But he would like I
Speaker 1: would give him rides home and he'd make me like
Speaker 1: mixed ds of like rap music. I'd never it was.
Speaker 1: It was, would you guys play schools that had black people?
Speaker 1: M m, I can't remember any. No, I don't remember
Speaker 1: any other black kids on any of the schools we played.
Speaker 1: We were all we were small enough that we were
Speaker 1: only playing other small world town of course, but even
Speaker 1: the bigger schools outside of Portland's, there's there's not many
Speaker 1: black people. Yeah, we're trying to tell your high school
Speaker 1: playing career is infant. I was so good in football especially,
Speaker 1: and then like nobody did anything and like at any
Speaker 1: level after high school? What were you nearby? Uh? And
Speaker 1: was this at the same time as Kevin Love or No.
Speaker 1: Kevin Love was a little older than me, and he
Speaker 1: was up in Portland. He went to lick Oswego, which
Speaker 1: is the richest hell I know. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: to Lake us we Go. It's like it's not like
Speaker 1: a Bond film, like it's so beautiful. It's beautiful, but
Speaker 1: it's he's a rich he's a rich kid. His dad's
Speaker 1: apparently a prick. But by all accounts he's really cool.
Speaker 1: He seems yeah, he seems like he's he's become very
Speaker 1: very cool. I've just heard his dad's an assholes. Yea
Speaker 1: perfect sense. Honestly, Lake Oswego rich people are some of
Speaker 1: the best I've met, Like I know, very kind, amazingly
Speaker 1: lovely people from there. They just also happened to be gazillionaires.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to I don't even want to
Speaker 1: know if I want to put a letter on it, um,
Speaker 1: but I so I want to say to your your
Speaker 1: playing style, just to like sort of segue into the
Speaker 1: topic here, because I know i've seen you in and
Speaker 1: just kind of your character and I genuinely don't think
Speaker 1: you are so Our topic today is greatest show boats,
Speaker 1: and I think you you and I maybe do it
Speaker 1: you more just as a kind of a joke, but
Speaker 1: I think we also we gravitate towards you know, um
Speaker 1: players like this who are very very like show showman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: carras that like it's a stage. The playing field in
Speaker 1: corn is a stage to that. Yeah, and you put like, yes,
Speaker 1: I think we both do it a lot, but we
Speaker 1: both put enough silliness on it. But nobody's like piste
Speaker 1: off at us. Like when we're showing off, it's me like,
Speaker 1: shoot a shot backwards, make it half the time, but
Speaker 1: like it's like and see it as the same thing.
Speaker 1: Will do like ten pump fakes three leafty loops and
Speaker 1: like the laughing. But he thinks it's good. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are you guys are weird? Al Yankovic of like
Speaker 1: pick up ball, but c J thinks he is John
Speaker 1: Lennon and Megan like nobody. Megan, you you played, you
Speaker 1: have a you have a short playing career. Were you
Speaker 1: at any point a show boat at basketball anything? I
Speaker 1: don't know. At tennis, I was like, oh, I was
Speaker 1: kind of like a bitch. I would I would fight
Speaker 1: with people. But it was also it was like the
Speaker 1: other fourteen year old girls and we were so in tennis.
Speaker 1: This is what's sucked up they weren't. We didn't have
Speaker 1: referees or umpires to fourteen year old girls playing a
Speaker 1: sport from opposite size of the track, you know, based
Speaker 1: on the honor system, and there would be bitches that
Speaker 1: would lie for sure. It's also really hard to call
Speaker 1: a tennis match when you're playing it. So I would hunt,
Speaker 1: like you were taught, say are you sure? Very passive
Speaker 1: aggressive you, but that's what you're taught. Are you usual?
Speaker 1: And so I would of course be like, are you sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: I've I see I see you yeah, And so that
Speaker 1: would happen. I once got into it with the sweetest girl,
Speaker 1: the sweetest girl who's sweet mom, sweet even sweeter than
Speaker 1: her mom, was friends with my sweet mom, and they
Speaker 1: were there watching us, and I just like so mean
Speaker 1: and losing and just just ruined my family's name. I'd
Speaker 1: love to see it. I wish there was a video.
Speaker 1: And like chunky, I was like chubby and mean and
Speaker 1: not that good, and I had so much attitude on
Speaker 1: the I love it. Those are the people that you
Speaker 1: have the post attitude, the people that can't quite bag
Speaker 1: it up. I used to do a lot I got
Speaker 1: like especially in football, like with baseball, especially as a picture.
Speaker 1: It's about like it's calm, stoked, in control. So I
Speaker 1: was all business in baseball, and I was a bad
Speaker 1: hitter too, so it was only a pitching anyways. But
Speaker 1: with football, I could just get so jacked playing football.
Speaker 1: I've never been. There's nothing in my life I've done
Speaker 1: since where I'm just like, let's go, like just sucking ready,
Speaker 1: not never before, like a sketch show, dude, I just
Speaker 1: can't energy bars moving up. It's like I'm getting stronger
Speaker 1: and but like so there's no there's no stopping me.
Speaker 1: As soon as I actually do something good, I couldn't
Speaker 1: help it. I would like spike the ball and then
Speaker 1: have to apologize to the reff And like the first
Speaker 1: touchdown I caught in in varsity football, I like jumped
Speaker 1: up and spiked it and screamed and my buddy was
Speaker 1: like what are you doing and the reff was like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I'm like I'm sorry. I said it slipped,
Speaker 1: and even my friend was still like old slip. Sure, dude.
Speaker 1: So everybody's making fun of me, and like I just
Speaker 1: showed up. And there's a bunch of other ones that
Speaker 1: were bad. There was one time where like I intercepted
Speaker 1: a ball and then fell down own and there's a
Speaker 1: clip of it. I'm right in front of the news camera.
Speaker 1: I've got it on a VHS. I mean I can't
Speaker 1: and I'm right by I'm right by our bench. Like
Speaker 1: as soon as I pop up, I like hold the
Speaker 1: ball up over my head like I'm showing it to
Speaker 1: like the crowd, like I got it. The balls ares
Speaker 1: and it's right in front of the bench, and everybody's
Speaker 1: like slapping me. But I'm like staring at the crowd,
Speaker 1: like not even paying attention. And then somebody comes up
Speaker 1: and lifts me from behind, and I dropped the ball
Speaker 1: over my head, just like the most obnoxious ship that
Speaker 1: I thought you're going to say, you like stepped into
Speaker 1: a Gatorade cooler and fell down. That's what I was
Speaker 1: expecting that we got. We gotta get into the topic. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, people are
Speaker 1: going to be mad at us, but I think any
Speaker 1: of the people that liked just us talking have left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break and when we come back, we
Speaker 1: will be back with the greatest show boat. And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're going to do the topic without fail. Guys. Right
Speaker 1: after I say, Kurt. Also, if you haven't seen a
Speaker 1: picture of him, don't know who he is. He looks
Speaker 1: like he should be in the movie Everybody Wants Some
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I needed to say. Okay, so we're doing
Speaker 1: the greatest show boat. Did you tell them to kick
Speaker 1: it off? Oh? Okay, sorry, I was truly um, there's
Speaker 1: too many screens. You know, it's hard when there's so
Speaker 1: many screens. It's hard to say, get out of here screen, Okay,
Speaker 1: get this woman a stage, miss stand up? Miss is
Speaker 1: so much show my god, i'ms on Zoom shows giving
Speaker 1: it my all. Just all. Okay, So, Kurt, since you
Speaker 1: are our guest, you uh, you start us off with
Speaker 1: your number three pick. We go in descending order, descending order,
Speaker 1: number three pick. Was I supposed to have a top
Speaker 1: three ready to go? Yes? Do you see you didn't
Speaker 1: tell me that? I thought we said in a text
Speaker 1: you said something like you gotta have nine. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to go and then maybe you
Speaker 1: can maybe? Or do you just want to throw a
Speaker 1: name out there, someone you like that's a show boat
Speaker 1: and then we'll just talk about it. Yeah, let's start.
Speaker 1: He's he's not my number one, so we'll start with
Speaker 1: him just in case. Um deon deon Sanders the fucking
Speaker 1: coolest ever. And what I love about him. You could
Speaker 1: compare him to like TiO. Maybe one of you are
Speaker 1: going to bring him up like a Terrell Owens. The
Speaker 1: thing with Tarrell Owens. Terrell Owens was more like it
Speaker 1: was like mean spirited. When Treill did it, it was
Speaker 1: like revenge. It was like there was an extra bit
Speaker 1: of like TiO did, but there's an edge. Everything Dion
Speaker 1: did was about showman. He was showing off his tiptoe
Speaker 1: and he's like smiling, he's dancing, joyful. It was joyful,
Speaker 1: playful and joyous and like almost silly, like the stuff
Speaker 1: me and c J were talking about. So there was
Speaker 1: something about him. I gravitated to Draft night. He from
Speaker 1: the like from the second he started get go and
Speaker 1: like even some of his sians annoying, like he did
Speaker 1: some ship in baseball, I'm like all right, Like he
Speaker 1: drew a dollar symbol in front of the home plate
Speaker 1: at Nyankees beating him in like his first bats, and
Speaker 1: Carlton Fisk like dott his face like fucking knocked that
Speaker 1: off too, and he's like a little kid, you look
Speaker 1: scared as hell. Carlton Fisk like getting his face and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm just sorry, looked really scared. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the have fun. But that's even more that
Speaker 1: makes it more likable. So I love Dion and I
Speaker 1: like I laughed onto him right away, even as a
Speaker 1: young kid whose dad is very much a fan of
Speaker 1: the like Harry standers, just hand the ball to the
Speaker 1: ref guys, my dad loves that ship. So like I
Speaker 1: still in the mindset of like, oh, but I still
Speaker 1: didn't want to be on Jersey once a week through
Speaker 1: all of like junior high, Like I'm in my seventh
Speaker 1: grade class picture wearing because it was my favorite shirt.
Speaker 1: Um soon sure, that's a great one. Yeah it came out. Um.
Speaker 1: Someone asked to Marvin Harrison Ones like, why don't you
Speaker 1: ever celebrate when you score touchdowns? And he goes, because
Speaker 1: that's my job. Um, and every white dad was like,
Speaker 1: that's our hero as our hero, and even I was like,
Speaker 1: that's his job. But it's like, if I scored a touchdown,
Speaker 1: I would rip my clothes off, like I would go,
Speaker 1: I would be I would make out with a cheerleader
Speaker 1: I would jump in the stands. I would be so thrilled.
Speaker 1: That's the one I'm waiting for. Some. I want some.
Speaker 1: I want a couple of NFL guys to try to
Speaker 1: pretend like their woke and after a touchdown, I want
Speaker 1: to see two guys grab each other by the helmet
Speaker 1: and face mask to face mask like make out. I
Speaker 1: want them to take their helmets off and do it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Dion is a great one. I'm sure, I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: come up. I mean I have spent time around him
Speaker 1: as an adult, like in his retirement years, and he
Speaker 1: we have eaten a lot of meals together in a
Speaker 1: green room and he is very kind and funny, but
Speaker 1: is still that like you're in a room of people
Speaker 1: that are on TV and he is holding Core and
Speaker 1: he is if what is it? You ball? You get
Speaker 1: the call? Listen all you get the call. That's what
Speaker 1: you want? You want Dion to call you because he's
Speaker 1: cool and fun. Absolutely, I love it all right, Megan,
Speaker 1: okay um. I wanted to pick a basketball, a baseball,
Speaker 1: and a football. I wanted to have representation from every sport,
Speaker 1: and so my number three is the NBA player and
Speaker 1: it's Allen Iverson. I just think of him as I guess,
Speaker 1: like he's not his show boat is sort of less
Speaker 1: of what Dion's was and more just like I am here,
Speaker 1: I am the best, I'm gonna do whatever I want
Speaker 1: and fuck you. And it's like it's attitude, it's showmanship.
Speaker 1: It's also his size, like I think it's not overcompensating,
Speaker 1: but he is, like he's given you some extra because
Speaker 1: he is kind of a little guy, and so he's
Speaker 1: throwing some spice on there. And I just, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like the way he dressed and carried himself and and
Speaker 1: like practice that's obviously like so iconic. He knew what
Speaker 1: he was doing, like you don't stubble stumble into one
Speaker 1: of the most iconic like sayings in sports history. Like
Speaker 1: he he was making a point and he knew how
Speaker 1: to like play up his point. Yeah, it's smart. It's
Speaker 1: smart because he's like you're not going to immediately think
Speaker 1: of Alan Iverson like this like running down like Kurt
Speaker 1: Gibson or something. But every little stink guy, the fucking
Speaker 1: stepping over Tyler you're talking about, like every little it's
Speaker 1: the it's like he's a show off, but it's because
Speaker 1: he knows he's from like the streets, and he knows
Speaker 1: he's that good, Like he's that much of a badass.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't even have to show off. That's
Speaker 1: how I'm showing up his he was so good at Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you when you go to a game, iversone was putting
Speaker 1: up stats, but you knew something else was going to
Speaker 1: happen because like in like that step over to this day,
Speaker 1: in my line of work, maybe the most used sports meme.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a crying Jordan, but like the stepover
Speaker 1: is always photoshopped to signify like someone beating somebody else
Speaker 1: at something. Right, Yeah, it's perfect, great one, great one.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you said Dion, I want to say so,
Speaker 1: I don't know much about him other other than like, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's Connor McGregor. Oh wow, I didn't even go there.
Speaker 1: I didn't even I would have been no specific moments.
Speaker 1: I just know, yeah, any time I've like, yeah, anytime
Speaker 1: i've ever I don't think i've ever seen him actually
Speaker 1: fight a full fight. I've only just seen him at
Speaker 1: press conferences. Yeah, footage of him fighting a bus um
Speaker 1: and then his like dances and celebrations and so literally
Speaker 1: I only know him as a performer. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say Connor McGregor, Yeah, that's a great one. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because like what's the context? Is it
Speaker 1: like show off? That like does it? Only one? He's
Speaker 1: doing really good and he's under control and he's likable.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's like, yeah, McGregor could be like the biggest
Speaker 1: show off of all time, but he's also like a
Speaker 1: piece of it and like an asshole. So it's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We just said show up and refresh me.
Speaker 1: Why he has he what is his um bad stuff
Speaker 1: that he's done. I believe assault and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know specific I mean technically an important distinction.
Speaker 1: I think it's mostly just to get like property and men. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't think he's up there beating women.
Speaker 1: You maybe you maybe wouldn't want to like have him
Speaker 1: nanny your kids, but actually he may be fine with
Speaker 1: He's just like I think he's just one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think. I think the whole I get the impression
Speaker 1: the whole UFC is just like terrified up like psycho, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your guy? What are your guys. Thoughts on
Speaker 1: someone who is in UFC, your boxing and get in
Speaker 1: trouble with the law for fighting, not not sexual, but
Speaker 1: for like assault, like assault of other Does that hurt
Speaker 1: their image? Yeah, I mean I know that like the military,
Speaker 1: once you're like trained in certain things, you know, they
Speaker 1: sit you down and they're like, hey, don't go home
Speaker 1: to your town and kill somebody at a bar, because
Speaker 1: you can't you know, conn airship. And so it's like
Speaker 1: just because you have the tools to kill someone in
Speaker 1: a and and box and fight, doesn't mean you can
Speaker 1: use them outside of I mean, I find actual boxing
Speaker 1: to be barbaric. So it's like I've been pro it
Speaker 1: in a bar. Yeah, boxing here like stupid overall in
Speaker 1: my opinion. But um so it doesn't necessarily hurt the image.
Speaker 1: If anything, it probably helps the image. If by image
Speaker 1: we mean like selling ship with your name on it.
Speaker 1: Like he's probably more populier than ever because he gets
Speaker 1: in part fight right, But it's like a very scary,
Speaker 1: dangerous thing, and it just proves that the sport and
Speaker 1: masculinity and all that, and their brains may be bleeding,
Speaker 1: you know, they may be actually having side effects of
Speaker 1: c T e. I laughed when you said his name,
Speaker 1: because you know, Irish people, we have so few people,
Speaker 1: you know, it's there's just not a lot of sports fame,
Speaker 1: definitely not in sports, and so for the most name
Speaker 1: is one to be like, you know sometimes like fighting Irish.
Speaker 1: Why is that still out? It's like, well, look at us,
Speaker 1: you know, like we we are all we always fulfill
Speaker 1: the stereotype. We almost always do fresh and like I'll
Speaker 1: take yeah, I'll take no. I'll take no sports heroes
Speaker 1: over economic Like I don't need a sports hero. Oh
Speaker 1: he's not my sports hero. But even when you just
Speaker 1: like pop sports guy, even the way like friends that
Speaker 1: we were talking about someone and they were like, um,
Speaker 1: the hot one, the Irish one, and my friend and
Speaker 1: I who are Irish, immediately go, you know, like we
Speaker 1: have so few that it's like on the tip of
Speaker 1: our talk and it's like we just like take who
Speaker 1: we take who we have. But Colin Farrell is perfect.
Speaker 1: He is so he's like he's fighting and drinking and
Speaker 1: like her accents are funny, you know wild Gregory's It's
Speaker 1: like you still sound funny. I know you're kill somebody,
Speaker 1: but you you sound a little leop for Connie. You know, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: should we take a break. Yeah, we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Will be back with our second and the first pick,
Speaker 1: and we are back current, keep us rolling. He opened
Speaker 1: it up from me being a good way. I had
Speaker 1: another guy in mind. Uh and then mccarnie, you opened
Speaker 1: something up. So I'm gonna I'm gonna get this guy
Speaker 1: out of the way now. Um, I forget his fucking name,
Speaker 1: Boxer man or the bowler? The bowler guy? Who do
Speaker 1: you think you are? Dang it? You took mine? Yes,
Speaker 1: I know you tweeted about the the Tim character. Who
Speaker 1: do you think you are? I think you are? I
Speaker 1: am the best show off ever. He straight up just
Speaker 1: took the second thing from wrestling and would do that.
Speaker 1: He would do the put motion to your crotch, and
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, bowling, he's like a he's like
Speaker 1: a Will Ferrell sidekick. Like it doesn't even it seems
Speaker 1: like a character. It's exactly an sl sketch of the character.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. It's funny. Though I can't remember his
Speaker 1: last name, Pete Pete Webber is his name. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: the guy Tim, what's his name, Tim Robinson? Tim Robinson
Speaker 1: did a knockoff that character and it like just looks
Speaker 1: like a normal guy now because that guy exists. That's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna I was gonna let him do
Speaker 1: that character. It would look like a completely fake guy,
Speaker 1: but now he just looks real. I was gonna reply, like,
Speaker 1: no discredit to Tim, but like, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: as funny, if or funnier than than the original guy
Speaker 1: that this is based on that real guy, because in
Speaker 1: that video he does like a tagline and it's like, no, actually,
Speaker 1: the one is. The actual one is way funnier, and
Speaker 1: Tim is maybe the funniest person I've ever met. Tim
Speaker 1: is one of the finest people in the world. And
Speaker 1: they clearly tried to mimic that specific line, who do
Speaker 1: you think you are? I? Yeah? And you can hear
Speaker 1: the line when they tried to mimic it, and it's
Speaker 1: just not as good. It's just not as good as
Speaker 1: who do you think you are? I Am? And I
Speaker 1: haven't done research. There's a whole documentary I think that
Speaker 1: where everyone found out about him. They did like a
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty short, But just let's break down that
Speaker 1: tag who do you Think you are? I Am? Was
Speaker 1: that intentional or not. It was absolutely not. No way
Speaker 1: was that on purpose. He funked up, and I know
Speaker 1: it because what do you think he was trying to say?
Speaker 1: It's like you think I think he was trying to say,
Speaker 1: like I'm like you think you think you're on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he must have mixed up two phrases. There was one
Speaker 1: phrase that started with who do you think you are?
Speaker 1: And the one phrase that ended with I am, And
Speaker 1: he mixed him up in his head. He couldn't decide,
Speaker 1: and he said the bull. It's like when you see
Speaker 1: someone you want to ask, you can't decided. You should
Speaker 1: have how are you? Or like what's going on? And
Speaker 1: he just like how are you going on? Combined him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy's classic. He's so fun and yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: he is like the Lebron or Michael Jordan's of ESPN three.
Speaker 1: You know it's because it's the context. It's like he's bony.
Speaker 1: It's like Tiger Woods out there going suck it. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's staying stuck it on on the gulf.
Speaker 1: His wife, her name's d D and she there's a video.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's classic. She's classic. You could play her
Speaker 1: in a movie. Big, big blond hair. Oh yeah, why
Speaker 1: that's so rude and like there's I just I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to know what his wife looked like, and
Speaker 1: she looks like it. And the first thing that pops
Speaker 1: up of her is he's bowling and she's flipping off
Speaker 1: like ESPN whatever like dd CDs class like you guys,
Speaker 1: like she's laughing. No, no, she's doing a joke. That's
Speaker 1: like that's d d's humor is like, you know, which
Speaker 1: isn't that? If c J was in the Dunk contest,
Speaker 1: what I maybe like do the like eating out Vy
Speaker 1: God first contest. Yeah, you're in the dunk I'm listen.
Speaker 1: I put myself in in every athlete we name their
Speaker 1: spouse's position. Um yeah, okay, so yeah check out Pete
Speaker 1: Webert is so good, so highly recommended. All right, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for my number two. I listened to
Speaker 1: I think there's a thirty for three podcast about episode
Speaker 1: about him, and so you know, we're just plugging all
Speaker 1: their products. Ricky Henderson and like Ricky Henderson is I
Speaker 1: just I really honestly, I know there's other guys in
Speaker 1: baseball who were like wacky, but like he became famous,
Speaker 1: I think because he talked about himself in the third person.
Speaker 1: You know, there's all these wild stories. There's some of
Speaker 1: them are just like they haven't been substantiated, and kind
Speaker 1: of the myth of him grew. But like there's a
Speaker 1: story of him standing naked in front of the mirror,
Speaker 1: like pretending to swing and just going where he's the best,
Speaker 1: where he's the best, and it's like I'm love in
Speaker 1: front of his Um. He didn't spend any of his
Speaker 1: per diam money. He would like, you know, keep it
Speaker 1: in the envelope, and then if one of his kids
Speaker 1: did something good or got like a good grade, he
Speaker 1: would give them an envelope of perdam money. So he's
Speaker 1: like a cool, fascinating guy. He never really he didn't
Speaker 1: ever do anything wrong. This is joy fall as well too,
Speaker 1: Like he just loved baseball. Of the episode about him
Speaker 1: is when he goes down to the minor leagues and
Speaker 1: like independent leagues and was like a father, a mentor,
Speaker 1: like men are like crying weeping about being on a
Speaker 1: minor league baseball team with Ricky Henderson just because he
Speaker 1: was so incredible and could still really fucking play at
Speaker 1: such a age. Um is Ricky the one who does
Speaker 1: who flips? Or no, No, that was Auzie Smith. I
Speaker 1: think I considered him, and it's a cool choice. I
Speaker 1: was thinking baseball. I'm like, I don't know what kind
Speaker 1: of griffy I guess, but not really like Junior now
Speaker 1: is doing some back flips. Maybe it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: find anybody that's really stands out, but Ricky was at
Speaker 1: the top of the list of baseball guys I was
Speaker 1: considering because of what you're talking about, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: a bunch of outlandish stuff. It's like every little slide
Speaker 1: and pop up and Clapp's fast and there's little energy
Speaker 1: behind all it. It's like, yeah, I'm excited, I'm having fun.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Um he's just like he looks like he's
Speaker 1: on speed the entire time. He's um. I think he's
Speaker 1: like the greatest base stealer of all time and considered
Speaker 1: one of the greatest leadoff hitters of all time. So
Speaker 1: he's bad. I mean, it's it's like Major League the
Speaker 1: movie stole characters based on people. He is the prototype
Speaker 1: for is it Wesley Snipe? Wesley Snipe guy the first one? Okay,
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he's just fast and fun. And he
Speaker 1: says that he does not speak like if you were like,
Speaker 1: what's what do you want for dinner, he'd be like
Speaker 1: Ricky wants. He says he does not do that. He
Speaker 1: he talks in the third person when he's trying to
Speaker 1: get on himself, like come on, Ricky, do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Come on, Ricky, step up like that. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a motivator, and that it got way blown out of
Speaker 1: proportion that he did it. But I don't either way,
Speaker 1: I like it, I think, especially in that context if
Speaker 1: that's really what he does, like that's cool. Come on, Kurt,
Speaker 1: come on you hurt. I'll do that. I've done that
Speaker 1: in my head. I still do that. Apparently this is
Speaker 1: a message he left to a manager that he was
Speaker 1: about to be playing for Kevin. This is Ricky calling
Speaker 1: on behalf of Ricky. Ricky wants to play baseball. Nike
Speaker 1: or some or a brand didn't like embrace that. I
Speaker 1: think he was like some people. A lot of people
Speaker 1: didn't like him because he was so flashy, um and
Speaker 1: he was new and like stealing basses was still not
Speaker 1: cool and sexy, and he like just started making it
Speaker 1: a thing and he could just do it like eighty
Speaker 1: times a season or something, and everyone was like kind
Speaker 1: of scared of him. I forgot in the ways that
Speaker 1: people weren't ready for he. Um when he path when
Speaker 1: he got the record for all times stolen bases, he
Speaker 1: gave a speech like it was an award show. Thanks
Speaker 1: God and his mother. Um yeah, I mean he is
Speaker 1: yeah great, he yeah, he's fun. Alright. Uh. Side note
Speaker 1: to one of our friends, Trevor, he has he bought
Speaker 1: a fake uh Ricky Henderson jersey from China and it
Speaker 1: says Ricky hendis Ron And um, I remember says Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 1: It says hendis Ron and I and I don't know
Speaker 1: that much about baseball. We all know that. And I
Speaker 1: remember just staring at it for like hours within hanging out,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, hey, man, do you know that
Speaker 1: it says hendis Ron on the back year jersey goes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got it from one of those bootlegs
Speaker 1: sites in China. So d I want to buy everything
Speaker 1: from those scared it just takes from you. I would
Speaker 1: trust that instinct. I would trust the scary and yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah all right. Um, so my number two pick.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy who actually doesn't in his
Speaker 1: play or did it in his like the way he plays,
Speaker 1: and I think it's I would consider a show about
Speaker 1: Jason Williams White Chocolate he was on. Yeah, Like it's
Speaker 1: like it's as we were talking about pick up. His
Speaker 1: play itself is so silly. Yeah, but it's like you're
Speaker 1: gonna hit it off your elbow, you show yeah, And
Speaker 1: I guess that, yeah, show off and show about the
Speaker 1: definition partly is like completely unnecessary and for the the
Speaker 1: simple simple purpose of showing off. Um, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: like the greatest kind of street ball highlight in NBA
Speaker 1: history is probably the rookie game where Jason Williams throws
Speaker 1: it off his elbow and if you like calculate all
Speaker 1: of it, really didn't do any didn't trick anyone. No,
Speaker 1: no one was trying to stop him. If anything, it's
Speaker 1: like confusing. You're like, why did he do that? And
Speaker 1: that's like altering that's altering the defense amount. But yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and I feel like his coach is probably like, yeah,
Speaker 1: being like you're a showboat or something showing off out there.
Speaker 1: He just gave him the ball. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do it five different ways. No, he one of the
Speaker 1: best clips. One of my favorite that's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite highlight reels to watch on YouTube for foremost White
Speaker 1: Chocolates like to go to And one of the best
Speaker 1: clips of it is when he crosses up Gary Payton
Speaker 1: and Gary Payton makes his face like, oh, Gary Payton's
Speaker 1: like blown away that William's broken down like that that
Speaker 1: he's he's he got beat so bad that he's enjoying
Speaker 1: it and he's looking back up Williams like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So for someone like Gary Payton to be blown away
Speaker 1: with how much you're showing off you because off it
Speaker 1: was John Timper, like the the o G like let's
Speaker 1: show off, let's show out. When I was doing my
Speaker 1: ute research for this episode, um, all of the articles
Speaker 1: were written by men who were so mad at these athletes,
Speaker 1: Like every headline was like the biggest show boating asshole
Speaker 1: donkey boot Lutton it like they were everything was mad,
Speaker 1: and then they'd be like this guy could be a
Speaker 1: good player if he would just stop his bullshit, like
Speaker 1: so angry at these players, so angry, and it's like
Speaker 1: fun people, You're like all of these is like all
Speaker 1: of famers, awesome cool guys. Yeah, yeah, it's white guys,
Speaker 1: lazy white guys who were like missed the days when
Speaker 1: good enough bad mad white sports writers who can't dunk.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I mean you're hearing report. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The classic white dad thing is like that guy shows
Speaker 1: off too much. He's always doing this razzle dazzle. It's like,
Speaker 1: why are you watching sports to watch someone do their job,
Speaker 1: like watch clean cups and backboard usage, Like let's have
Speaker 1: some fun. Okay, Um, shoot, we've already taken two breaks. Um,
Speaker 1: so I'm going first, Yes, so Kurt, how we do
Speaker 1: it is? The guests is our big grand finale? Oh god, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have one on Norble mention and it's Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1: Just to call your shot is so bold. I think
Speaker 1: just point and be like it's going. It's crazy candy
Speaker 1: bar and and and that is a show off. That
Speaker 1: is a show off to have you on candy bar. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: So gosh, you guys are gonna be mad at me
Speaker 1: um for how I did this. But my number one
Speaker 1: pick is just wide receivers, just so just and so
Speaker 1: that too. That like initially came to mine outside of
Speaker 1: Dion R t O and chat Ocho Sinko. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I guess if I had to pick, I would
Speaker 1: pick Ocho Sinko because he changed his name to Ocho Sinko,
Speaker 1: which was his number UM and legally did it and
Speaker 1: now has since changed it back, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: a famous celebrator, a famous sort of like trash talker,
Speaker 1: really fun, really fast, cool good um and on a
Speaker 1: team that like never really was able to get him to,
Speaker 1: Like he made his own national stage in Cincinnati, like
Speaker 1: it was just like okay, everyone, here's boring and all,
Speaker 1: we have a skyline Chili, I'll dance into your hearts.
Speaker 1: And he did, and I follow him on Twitter and
Speaker 1: he's still he acts like this on Twitter, like it's
Speaker 1: just who he is to just want to interact and
Speaker 1: like have fun and be raw and be real. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes he is apologizing like he's just someone he's just
Speaker 1: saying like thinking and saying everything, and so sometimes he
Speaker 1: has to go, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have done that,
Speaker 1: but he just is. So he is like a movie
Speaker 1: wide receiver. To me, he's that's a perfect pick. I
Speaker 1: feel I was kicking myself for not even considering, ever
Speaker 1: thinking of him. He was fantastic He was one of
Speaker 1: the best celebrators of all time in the NFL. He
Speaker 1: had so much fun everything the name changing. But one
Speaker 1: thing people forget or people don't pay attention to go
Speaker 1: back and watch some of the footage of him. He
Speaker 1: worked as hard as anybody. Yeah, he posted his ass
Speaker 1: man and he blocked and he liked he ran clean
Speaker 1: fucking Crisp ro out. He was like working people. So
Speaker 1: he worked really hard and people only paid attention to
Speaker 1: the to the outlandish stuff. But like he always delivered.
Speaker 1: He rarely made a stink like a t O would
Speaker 1: in terms of like give me the ball more like
Speaker 1: I think he did some probably, but like never it
Speaker 1: was never that significant. He never went full like Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown or anything. But he was fun and he worked hard,
Speaker 1: and there was joy in it. There was joy in
Speaker 1: the celebrating and the showing off because he clearly just
Speaker 1: loved it so much. And it's just like he just
Speaker 1: he had that same Ricky Henderson energy like I want
Speaker 1: to run and I want to catch on. I'm moving down.
Speaker 1: Cut this way and cut that way, let's go, and
Speaker 1: yes we did it. It's like just that like they're
Speaker 1: on speed kind of energy because they just loved playing
Speaker 1: that much. I love following his love life too. He's
Speaker 1: dated some reality stars. I saw, I saw him and
Speaker 1: I think her name is Eden. She was on she
Speaker 1: was on one of the reality shows. I saw them
Speaker 1: fighting out um in Lucas Oil Stadium at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They were having like they're having a lover squirrel inside.
Speaker 1: He's also one of those guys who, like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's only ever been that guy like he might he
Speaker 1: might actually just be stupid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because he's only ever just been like a charming guy
Speaker 1: who's like a freak athlete. So like he's there's an
Speaker 1: energy to him where he's like I feel like he's
Speaker 1: very like still there's a degree of like he's he's
Speaker 1: a little stilted, you know what I mean. He's probably
Speaker 1: not that mature. Maybe not mature is the better phrase.
Speaker 1: And this supposed to stupid, but like he's probably just
Speaker 1: like a google. I bet he's still in playing shape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like sprinting on things. It's like you don't need
Speaker 1: to be sprinting that hard, Chad. Yeah that him and
Speaker 1: t O both look in the same shape they did
Speaker 1: when they Yeah, Wow, good for them. Not me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can't stay the same shape for for women,
Speaker 1: it's probably wedding shape, you know that start playing shape
Speaker 1: and okay, c J, give us you number one. You
Speaker 1: got an honorable men cheese, I do, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to take him. Well, let me say, uh, Tara
Speaker 1: Owens was one of them, and then yeah, Kurt took
Speaker 1: Pete Webber from me. So I used to my pick um.
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is just yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think greatest like Showman, showboat, most confident athlete I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And granted, like we I didn't get to experience his
Speaker 1: prime in real time, and so I'm just watching like
Speaker 1: documentary footage, but just like him dancing in the ring
Speaker 1: all the like some of them, probably has the most
Speaker 1: iconic sports photography because he was almost putting it on
Speaker 1: for the camera. He was almost like striking the pose.
Speaker 1: Remember there's this one story, and I think I've said
Speaker 1: on the podcast before where there was a time when
Speaker 1: he knocked a guy out and the guy hadn't fallen
Speaker 1: like completely yet and he could illegally hit him again
Speaker 1: to make sure, but Ali backed off to watch him fall.
Speaker 1: For the dramatics like the dramatics of it all. It's
Speaker 1: like to me, that is like that is the greatest,
Speaker 1: um like literally the yeah, he's the greatest. Well and
Speaker 1: he was he like as I was doing Ricky Henderson research.
Speaker 1: That's his idol, you know, like he is so many.
Speaker 1: He was a trailblazer for the show boots to come,
Speaker 1: you know, or like I want to be like Mohammad Ali,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be the greatest, and even just declaring
Speaker 1: yourself the greatest is his showman ship. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: met the Beatles, huge greatest show up ever, the Beatles.
Speaker 1: So Mohammad Ali, al right, bring us home here with
Speaker 1: number one. Pick you're fregatting, you're freaking stull mine. It's
Speaker 1: of course Muhammad Ali is number one. It's like the
Speaker 1: lazy choice because he's like actually clearly the greatest ever
Speaker 1: at it. Um So that was my number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like the dancing in the in the showmanship in
Speaker 1: the ring is one thing, but like his like poetry
Speaker 1: of his interviews was insane. But the way he was
Speaker 1: like his own hype man and just like he gets going,
Speaker 1: he's like a pastor up in the church going crazy.
Speaker 1: Everybody's losing their mind listening to him because he's just
Speaker 1: so he gets this energy and you building, building to build,
Speaker 1: and it's all it's all like rhymes and there's like
Speaker 1: there's a there's a beat to it. It's like almost
Speaker 1: like a rap, and there's like it was insane. He
Speaker 1: was like the most interesting creative, like outlandish. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he played it up with he had like characters in
Speaker 1: his life. Sorry I stopped you from saying something, but
Speaker 1: the way you like played it up with like Howard
Speaker 1: Cosell and and Don King, like he like played into
Speaker 1: that like played characters. Yes, he must have. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: must have been of a like, oh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: a little actra on this, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's a there had to have been some self
Speaker 1: awareness there to still go out and be that good
Speaker 1: every time you fought, you have to be a little
Speaker 1: self aware of like, oh, this is part of it.
Speaker 1: This is like we're building hype here, We're we're selling tickets, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So this genius try to save it a little bit
Speaker 1: with this lackluster finished with some honorable mentions to think
Speaker 1: about right the back. You got the Brandy Chastain, you
Speaker 1: got the Rapino with her. But that also opens up
Speaker 1: like all the male soccer players to like that's like
Speaker 1: every single goal they're sliding on the Yeah soccer, sorry
Speaker 1: we forgot you, m m. But like they all get
Speaker 1: to do it, may do do it, So no one
Speaker 1: really stands out outside of that those two Rapino and
Speaker 1: chest Stain. There's no other moments that I can think of,
Speaker 1: like that one time that one guy did this well,
Speaker 1: like an Italian or a Spaniard. That's a level of like,
Speaker 1: you know, those are shown, come on there showing in
Speaker 1: the streets. You know, they're just yeah, but there's you know,
Speaker 1: who else is I thinking about? Um, there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of subtle show off that I love, Like Steph
Speaker 1: Curry and Aaron Rodgers are the two I think of most.
Speaker 1: Like show off a lot, but never big. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is always doing that little discount double check, the check
Speaker 1: of the belt, and he's always doing the cutest like
Speaker 1: first downs when he gets the first down, that thing
Speaker 1: that all white quarterbacks do whenever they run for one.
Speaker 1: That's cute, little finger. Um. But Philip Rivers, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's a little show boat. Yeah, the biggest trash chalkers
Speaker 1: in the game. He nuts, he screams, and he doesn't curse.
Speaker 1: He doesn't curse. Probably, I really do wonder how the defense,
Speaker 1: which is not polably yesterday, how the defense likes this
Speaker 1: like old white religious man. I bet they bet when
Speaker 1: he's on your team, it's like pretty fun. I bet
Speaker 1: it's pretty fun. Know when he's on it's like Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield like yeah, Baker, I'm sort of just ignoring him,
Speaker 1: Like c J will be like, let's go fill up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, we're not. Really. Do you know
Speaker 1: where there's other guys out there, you know we can
Speaker 1: focus on them. Yeah, Kurt tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about the movie. Yeah, thanks guys, movies called Derek's Dead.
Speaker 1: I made it twenty nineteen. Bunch of friends helped out,
Speaker 1: got some help with these producers. I want to shout
Speaker 1: out Lenny Barstop and Aaron Brown, Thank you guys. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we just made it for fun funny. It's a comedy.
Speaker 1: It's about the plot again here, I gotta remember the pitch.
Speaker 1: It's about two former best friends who currently hate each other,
Speaker 1: but they're forced to reconnect when their third former best friend,
Speaker 1: who they also hate, dies and tasks these two idiots
Speaker 1: who hate each other with spreading his ashes as like
Speaker 1: his last wish for These guys are kind of forced
Speaker 1: to reconnect over this other guy they don't even like Diane,
Speaker 1: and then it gets weirder from there. Yeah. I know
Speaker 1: one of the guys is Joe McAdam, who is our
Speaker 1: last guest. Um, it's very funny. I know people said
Speaker 1: that they enjoyed him, so yeah, check it out like
Speaker 1: you guys. You guys kind of did on a small
Speaker 1: budget and went out there and made something that was
Speaker 1: really really funny last year. And yeah, super super funny.
Speaker 1: It was fun to do. I'm very proud of it
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm happy it's coming out. It is just
Speaker 1: available for pre order right now on iTunes, but if
Speaker 1: you can swing it, it makes us look really cool,
Speaker 1: so pre orders would be tight. Okay, that's what preorder,
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. And I was dead. Derek's
Speaker 1: dead And I'm not even saying this. I hope no
Speaker 1: one is listening to this podcast with their child named Derek.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to be funny, but it does
Speaker 1: sound like it could be a holiday film being around
Speaker 1: people from your past has a lot of reconnecting past
Speaker 1: and letting go certain things forgiveness connection. I should point
Speaker 1: out that um, I named this guy Derek. The guy
Speaker 1: that's dead is Derek Anderson. That's why named him. I
Speaker 1: specifically named him after a guy. In high school. He
Speaker 1: lost the state championship to the team whose quarterback was
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson, who went on to play in the NFL
Speaker 1: for years. He had really easing with the Browns and
Speaker 1: he backed up Cam Newton for years in Carolina. That
Speaker 1: counts a nice guy. But he called me a bitch
Speaker 1: in the in the state championship game. Well, here's what happened.
Speaker 1: I was such a like show off, playful guy in
Speaker 1: in high school football. I would small top with the
Speaker 1: other guys and I try to be their buddy. And
Speaker 1: there was one time where some guy I thought I
Speaker 1: was cool with was like hit me in the jaw
Speaker 1: and like jabbing me and punching me in the ribs.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what's going on? Man? I thought
Speaker 1: we were cool. I was literally confronting him like that, like,
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? I thought we were buddies. Are you okay?
Speaker 1: But Derrick Anderson, future NFL quarterback witnessed that, and he
Speaker 1: thought I was trash talking, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: he was. He was acting crazy. I was telling him
Speaker 1: to calm down. And then Derrick Anderson said, you calmed down, bitch. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean when you said had a very good season
Speaker 1: with the Browns, It's like, I don't recall that. So
Speaker 1: I don't think I recall that. Derrick Anderson shut up,
Speaker 1: and I recalled that. Derek Anderson and the NBA one
Speaker 1: of Jordan Brand's first NBA players. Um, all right, well, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Where can people find you? Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram? Kurt Neils see Neil and e. I L
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