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Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the show, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, listen and maybe you have your girlfriend in

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Speaker 1: the truck or something like that, and she'll just hear

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Speaker 1: the show. Sometimes, you tell me, she'll listen and say,

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Speaker 1: what's along with him? Why is he so mad with

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Speaker 1: the audience. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I promise. Hey,

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Speaker 1: first off, welcome to the show, and do you have

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Speaker 1: any other family members. If so, you should ask them

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Speaker 1: to subscribe, because it really helps our numbers around here,

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Speaker 1: and we're happy to have you ladies of Peate State.

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Speaker 1: We welcome you. But anyway, I'm not mad. But I

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Speaker 1: do think one of my blind spots is I don't

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Speaker 1: realize it takes folks a few shows. It takes a

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Speaker 1: little while to be immersed in kind of the way

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Speaker 1: we do things here before it's normal to you. So

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Speaker 1: I know if someone walks in the side door in

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Speaker 1: the middle of us doing our thing on this show

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Speaker 1: and they hear it, sometimes it can sound contentious. That's

447
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Speaker 1: not the case. That's I mean, that's just how I

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Speaker 1: talk with my friends, which I consider you guys. So

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Speaker 1: I try and format the show no different than if

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Speaker 1: you and I were hanging out at lunch eating barbecue

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Speaker 1: together down at Clearview Barbecue in Columbus, Georgia. Soon to

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Speaker 1: open again, I'm told, so don't worry. There is no hatred.

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Speaker 1: All is well here, although you may dislike me when

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Speaker 1: I do this. Got him? Got him? Uh, We're back okay.

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Speaker 1: Here we go from Shreon in New Delhi, India. He says,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the Michigan Exodus? This is

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Speaker 1: not a book in the Bible, kids, It's something that's

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Speaker 1: actually going on right now. And if you're unfamiliar, here's

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Speaker 1: the broad Strokes view. Right now, Jim Harbaugh has gone

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Speaker 1: to the NFL. He's taken a number of his staffers

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Speaker 1: with him, and some of his other staffers have left

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Speaker 1: to go elsewhere. And Sharon Moore was elevated. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan, you just shaw your team win

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Speaker 1: a national title. And you saw Sharon Moore, then the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, elevate to interim head coach when Harball was suspended.

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Speaker 1: And he did a good job and everyone loved it.

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Speaker 1: And it was kumbai a around the campfire. So when

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Speaker 1: Harball leaves, they had a natural plan in place to

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Speaker 1: elevate Sharon Moore to head coach. Everybody applauded. Good for

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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore. He gets his shot I got no problem

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Speaker 1: with it personally, but one of the big biggest talking

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Speaker 1: points around Michigan was this will benefit us because of continuity,

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Speaker 1: and it will benefit us because it will keep the

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Speaker 1: organization together. Well, some Michigan fans are looking and saying,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, now, all these guys are walking out

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Speaker 1: the door. If we weren't going to get the continuity,

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Speaker 1: was it really in our best interest to elevate Sharon

478
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Speaker 1: Moore to begin with? This was supposed to be one

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Speaker 1: of the big pros because there are several question marks

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Speaker 1: to giving a guy who's never been a head coach

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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan job as his first job. And

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Speaker 1: that's understandable too, But one of the big trade offs

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be at least a bunch of folks

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Speaker 1: won't leave. Well, now they're leaving, thus the Michigan exodus.

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Speaker 1: Now time will tell the impact on this. Sharon Moore

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Speaker 1: may go out and hire his own staff and it

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Speaker 1: may be Gangbusters man. He may kill it, and it

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Speaker 1: may be Sharon Moore's world up there, and they're a

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Speaker 1: Tier one program for years to come into Big ten.

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Speaker 1: That could happen. Also, what could happen is you could

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Speaker 1: find out. The further Jim Harble gets away from that program,

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Speaker 1: the more and more he was hiding some of the

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Speaker 1: warts internally. And I think a lot of you Michigan

494
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Speaker 1: folks know what I'm talking about, but nationally they don't. Nationally,

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Speaker 1: you need to know the athletic director at Michigan's not

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Speaker 1: very popular internally. Ward manual is not very popular with

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Speaker 1: the fan base or internally, let me put it that way.

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Speaker 1: And there is a train of thought that I happen

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Speaker 1: to buy into with Michigan Athletics that they have not

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Speaker 1: jumped into the real world. They are still stuck twenty

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Speaker 1: years behind times when it comes to things like nil

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Speaker 1: and they think that Michigan brand is going to carry

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Speaker 1: the weight at the end of the day, and they

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Speaker 1: don't have to do what some of these other schools do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you do, Yeah you do. And the more a

506
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Speaker 1: legendary head coach walks out who was probably holding it

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Speaker 1: together and who was probably the last remnants of being

508
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Speaker 1: able to win with culture as the main selling point,

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Speaker 1: the further he walks away, the quicker and quicker, you're

510
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Speaker 1: going to realize, oh wow, harpball really was special. Getting

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Speaker 1: all those kids to stick around after they lost back

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Speaker 1: to back playoff games to come back and win a

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Speaker 1: national title. That was special. It was. It may be

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Speaker 1: the last of an era. It maybe the last time

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Speaker 1: you see anything like that, because let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: in the normal college football world, with the amount that

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Speaker 1: Michigan does or doesn't spend in NIL, that team should

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Speaker 1: have fractured last year. A bunch of those players, that

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Speaker 1: veteran senior laden team, a bunch of them are going

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Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. Now in normal world, in

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Speaker 1: normal college football terms, those guys making what they didn't

522
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Speaker 1: make it, Michigan would have just gone elsewhere and that

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Speaker 1: team would have broken up, and you never would have

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Speaker 1: had this run last year. Harball was so good ingraining

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Speaker 1: the culture into them that they actually agreed to stick around,

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Speaker 1: taking far less money than they were going to get

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Speaker 1: on the open market. They won a title. Great story,

528
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Speaker 1: by the way, like I love it. But now either

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Speaker 1: either Sheron Moore can do that or he can't. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use a default adding here and assume

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Speaker 1: that he can't, because I don't think hardly anyone can

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Speaker 1: do that anymore. And those guys came in together and

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Speaker 1: they were committed, and that's a very, very unique bond.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that every future Michigan class is going

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Speaker 1: to have that. I know it's kind of popular, and

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Speaker 1: it's idealistic to think they will, because every fan base

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Speaker 1: thinks their kids and their organizations made up of different, unique,

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Speaker 1: right stuff. Hopefully for Michigan's sake, You're right, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I think they're in the same world as

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and as Georgia and as USC and everyone else,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to find out we're behind the times here,

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Speaker 1: and Sharon Moore or you know, Brian Kelly or Chris

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Speaker 1: Kleiman or whoever we would have brought in, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to get with the times in nil and they're

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Speaker 1: not there right now. And Michigan's not a poverty program,

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Speaker 1: but they are a program where you know, some of

547
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: the old heads have been very resistant to jump on

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Speaker 1: the conveyor belt of modern college football. And I don't

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Speaker 1: blame them because they're not in love with it. They

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Speaker 1: don't really like it. But you know, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of boosters begrudgingly participating elsewhere just the way of

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Speaker 1: the world right now. Maybe it won't always be that way,

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Speaker 1: but it is right now. Randy is up next from Asheville,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. He said, I need some help. My best

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Speaker 1: friends and I attend a game every year for our

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Speaker 1: annual guys trip awesome tradition. The issue is we're having

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Speaker 1: trouble picking this year. What have been your favorite games

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Speaker 1: or stadiums you've attended? Any recommendations are welcome. Well, the

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Speaker 1: first thing you have to do, Randy, is you have

560
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Speaker 1: to make sure you don't have any weddings on your calendar.

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Speaker 1: And the next thing you need to be able to

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Speaker 1: confirm is that you can go any time of year,

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Speaker 1: because if there are times that are blocked off that

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Speaker 1: could impact my answer. The third thing you need to

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Speaker 1: ask is does distance matter? Or could you go anywhere

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Speaker 1: you want to? I mean, how free is this guy's trip?

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Speaker 1: And fourthly, a lot of prerequisites I know. Fourthly, do

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Speaker 1: you want to go to a home stadium or could

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Speaker 1: you go to a neutral site? Now, as you know,

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Speaker 1: we're usually opposed to neutral site games at all costs,

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Speaker 1: but there are some ecceps and one of them that

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Speaker 1: I would recommend anyone go to at least once is

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Speaker 1: the Red River Shootout called by no other name on

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Speaker 1: this show, and that is ou versus Texas in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl's awesome. I love it. I have gifts of

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Speaker 1: myself at that place. That's how awesome it is. But

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Speaker 1: can you also imagine, Terry, if you go to that

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Speaker 1: game this year, both teams are going to be probably

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Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten, I would imagine, and you're

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Speaker 1: also going to get to see that game in its

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Speaker 1: first year as an SEC game. It's just going to

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Speaker 1: be wild. But it already is wild. They don't need

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Speaker 1: that SEC moniker to make that game awesome, so please

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Speaker 1: don't misunderstand me. Another one if you're not so inclined

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Speaker 1: to take the trip to Dallas is Ohio State plays

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Speaker 1: at Oregon this year. And Oregon's an awesome place to

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Speaker 1: go anyway. But Ohio State versus Oregon, and that's a

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Speaker 1: big ten game, and I don't think that's late in

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Speaker 1: the year. I think it's earlier in the year. That

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00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: one could be awesome too. Georgia plays at Alabama this year.

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Speaker 1: Like there are some big time games. It's college football,

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00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: so we have it year. But there are some big

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Speaker 1: time home campus games in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 1: But man, I'm telling you now, if I were to

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Speaker 1: circle one, I'd love to go to all those, and

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Speaker 1: selfishly I probably will go to all those. But if

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Speaker 1: you can tell me you only go to one, that

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Speaker 1: OU Texas Game takes a backseat to no other game.

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Speaker 1: You know I choose the game I want to go

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Speaker 1: Ken asked, is it possible for the ACC or Big

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Speaker 1: FSU wins the ACC and they beat Miami or Clemson

643
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Speaker 1: or who do they still have divisions there? I can't

644
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Speaker 1: remember who scrap divisions and who didn't, but whoever they play,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a one loss team and that

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Speaker 1: team's second loss comes in the conference title game, chances

647
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Speaker 1: are whether that's Kansas State in the Big Twelve, whether

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Speaker 1: that's for a surprise, Virginia Tech team in the ACC,

649
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Speaker 1: chances are that teams still in the top twelve, and

650
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Speaker 1: chances are they're going to the playoff. So yeah, Ken,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely think that's going to be the case. Now,

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Speaker 1: I am also of the opinion, don't get me wrong

653
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Speaker 1: that the SEC and the Big Ten are going to

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Speaker 1: dominate this thing, but not to the point where it

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Speaker 1: chokes out the ability for any of the other conferences

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Speaker 1: to get more than one team in. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: it'll be that pronounced. Let's go to Council Bluff's Iowa

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Speaker 1: BT is there. He said, do you think any of

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Speaker 1: the teams in new conferences can win them? If so?

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Speaker 1: Who absolutely? I do? Yeah, look at me, mister positive

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Speaker 1: today a bunch of yeses. Oregon can win the Big

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Speaker 1: ten USC, so I wouldn't pick them to win the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. I think there's at least a year's adjustment

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to have. But if I'm wrong

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Speaker 1: about that, USC does have a very workable schedule. They

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Speaker 1: don't play Oregon, they don't play O High State. They

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Speaker 1: go to Michigan and Washington, but both of those teams

668
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Speaker 1: are in rebuild years. They get Penn State at home,

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Speaker 1: I believe, so it sets up pretty well for USC.

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Speaker 1: Now again, I think they're going to have some struggle

671
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Speaker 1: adjusting a lot of the things they're trying to adjust

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Speaker 1: defensively and philosophically with that program. But if they're ahead

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Speaker 1: of schedule, if they're able to do that over the

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Speaker 1: course of one spring, in one summer, they could win

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Speaker 1: it in the SEC. I could see Texas win the SEC.

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Speaker 1: I could see a world where if Oklahoma gets their

677
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Speaker 1: offensive line figured out, they challenge. I mean, this is

678
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Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility at all. I

679
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: think there's a perception that these new teams are going

680
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Speaker 1: to have to really really adjust when they enter these conferences.

681
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Speaker 1: And that's true. But I heard Landing say the other day,

682
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Speaker 1: and if it was a fake quote, it's still valid.

683
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Speaker 1: He said, I think the Big ten's going to have

684
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Speaker 1: to adjust to us too. Well, he's right about that,

685
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Speaker 1: I mean he is. I don't know how else you

686
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Speaker 1: present that he's right about that. It would be correct

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Speaker 1: if Steve Sarkisian said that about Texas, if Venables said

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Speaker 1: it about Oklahoma. So that's a two way street. Hey, Also,

689
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Speaker 1: let's not forget now we've got new teams coming into

690
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Utah absolutely could win the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: What if SMU walked into the ACC and surprised everyone? Again,

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Speaker 1: this is not a prediction show because it's February. Mema

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Speaker 1: always said, never predict before Valentine's Day. She also said

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Speaker 1: that about Arbor Day, and Mema even said it about

695
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Speaker 1: Labor Day. Mema just was against predictions, but I told her, Mema,

696
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Speaker 1: at some point, now, at some point, we have to

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Speaker 1: go on the record. Folks have to have a way

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Speaker 1: to dunk on you in December, and so we agreed.

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Speaker 1: I think second week of August. I think that was

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Speaker 1: what me and Mema decided on for predictions. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could see I could see a prop bet at

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Speaker 1: FanDuel where they put out odds a yes or no

703
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: bet will a new team win a Power for league

704
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Speaker 1: this year? And I'm interested what the odds would be

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Speaker 1: there if you did that. You don't have to guess

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Speaker 1: which one. If you did the all the newcomers combined

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Speaker 1: acc Big twelve, sec, Big ten, Yes or no. Will

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Speaker 1: a new team win one of these conferences this year?

709
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Speaker 1: What would the odds be on that one? Very interesting?

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00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Maybe get a hypothetical spit out for you before we

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Speaker 1: do the Thursday show. Maybe that's not a promise. Maybe

712
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Speaker 1: let us now go to Wadmallaw Island, South Carolina, beautiful

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00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: this time of year. The question is with Missouri receiving

714
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: sixty two million in an anonymous donation. What are some

715
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Speaker 1: other schools that may have massive, untapped resources that could

716
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: make them competitive? Dude, everybody, everybody's got untapped resource. All

717
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Speaker 1: the major programs. I don't know if people realize this.

718
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Speaker 1: All the major programs have boosters that can afford to

719
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: do this. Okay, not sixty two million, but you don't

720
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Speaker 1: need sixty two million. Like right now, everybody's freaked out

721
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Speaker 1: because they think Ohio State just spent thirteen million dollars

722
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Speaker 1: on a class. Hey, let's say that's true. You're telling

723
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Speaker 1: me that if I went to Tennessee, or if I

724
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Speaker 1: went to North Carolina, or if I went to anywhere

725
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Speaker 1: like Oklahoma State, you're telling me that there aren't boosters

726
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: that could kick in twenty million dollars if they wanted to.

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00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Of course they could. So every one of them, is

728
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Speaker 1: my answer. Every one of them has untapped potential. If

729
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: that's what it takes to sign a class. Every one

730
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Speaker 1: of them has that. I think that you may be

731
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: so caught off guard by that number at Missouri that

732
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: you may not realize there are others out there who

733
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Speaker 1: have either done that already or who are contemplating doing that.

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Speaker 1: For instance, I'm aware of an example right now of

735
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Speaker 1: a major booster with a major program who has a

736
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Speaker 1: major donation on the table, but he wants it ear

737
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Speaker 1: marked not for football. He wants it earmarked for a

738
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Speaker 1: specific position. He's saying, if this is my money and

739
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you, and it's in the

740
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Speaker 1: seven figure range, if I'm gonna give it to you,

741
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Speaker 1: I want it to be spent on a quarterback. And

742
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Speaker 1: he may even want some say in which quarterback they

743
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Speaker 1: go and get. Isn't that fun? Isn't that a lovely

744
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: world to have to exist in if you're a head coach.

745
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Speaker 1: Gross mo is next up from Forny, Texas. He said,

746
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Speaker 1: is Ryan Day giving up play calling and taking this

747
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Speaker 1: approach because he knows behind the scenes his job could

748
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Speaker 1: be on the line next season. No, I think he's

749
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Speaker 1: doing it because it's in the best interest of his team.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a boring answer, but I don't

751
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Speaker 1: think that Ryan Day sat there and did a self

752
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Speaker 1: assessment and said, all right, well, I'd love to keep

753
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: calling plays, but since my job could be on the

754
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Speaker 1: line next year, I'm gonna go make a change at coordinator.

755
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Speaker 1: What I think he did do is say, I would

756
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Speaker 1: love to keep calling plays, but I don't think it

757
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Speaker 1: gives us the best chance to get where we want

758
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: to go. So even if I'm totally comfortable in my

759
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: job security, I'm gonna do what I think gives us

760
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. Now. I know that sounds

761
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: like coach. I know that sounds like I'm being a

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Speaker 1: mouthpiece for coaches. I'm not. I just think that's how

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day thinks about that. I think that's how any

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Speaker 1: legitimate coach thinks about that. Now, that doesn't mean there

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Speaker 1: aren't coaches out there that make moves in an attempt

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Speaker 1: to save their job. I do think that Billy Napier

767
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: right now is making some staff moves because he does know, yeah,

768
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Speaker 1: I probably have to do something different this upcoming year

769
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Speaker 1: or I could lose my job. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have made the moves anyway. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Could mean that, could not mean that. But in Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day's case, I don't think he's making that move because

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Speaker 1: of some job security issue. I think he's making the

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Speaker 1: move and you know, maybe having to make another move

775
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Speaker 1: here in the not too distant future, depending on how

776
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: staff moves go because he feels like it gives them

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Speaker 1: the best chance to win. That's the long and short

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