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<v Speaker 1>Hit contact. All right, We got some great guests coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this week. Scott Johnson, founder of the frog Pants

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<v Speaker 1>Network and the host of a video game news and

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<v Speaker 1>views podcast called Core. He will be joining us to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Sony's new PlayStation portal portable gaming system. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got doctor Chris Pearson, founder of Black Cloak, to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about AI and hacking, and a little bit later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Emily dry Belbis, electric vehicle reporter for PC mag.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk all things evs well in Hollywood. The big

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<v Speaker 1>news right now is that Bob Barker has died. Legendary

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<v Speaker 1>game show host ninety nine years old, nineteen time Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>Award winning game show host. And Bob has a special

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<v Speaker 1>place in my heart because I was actually on The

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<v Speaker 1>Prices right in college. It was one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm from New Jersey, come out to school in

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<v Speaker 1>California and they say, hey, we're doing a field trip

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<v Speaker 1>to The Prices, right, anyone want to go? And I said, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. I mean, who didn't grow up with that show?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And we get there. You stand in this long line

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<v Speaker 1>in television city, which is CBS Studios kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the city here, and you just wait

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<v Speaker 1>and the producers they kind of come up and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to all the people in line, and they give you

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<v Speaker 1>a name tag. Of course, that iconic name tag still

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<v Speaker 1>have it, by the way. And then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden in the show, what do I hear rich de Mirro? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Richard. You have to use your

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<v Speaker 1>full name. It was Richard Demiro. Come on, down, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at that moment, it is so tough to

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<v Speaker 1>explain what your brain feels like. But the best way

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<v Speaker 1>I could describe it is it went to Jello. If

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<v Speaker 1>someone asked what my name was, I wouldn't have known.

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<v Speaker 1>The energy level. All the excitement in that place was

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<v Speaker 1>so fun. I ended up not winning anything except the

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<v Speaker 1>consolation prizes because I bid seven hundred dollars on a

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<v Speaker 1>sewing machine. And how would I not a sewing machine costs?

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<v Speaker 1>I had no clue, but I did find it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Barker's biography here. He worked part time in radio

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<v Speaker 1>during college KTTS Radio in Springfield, Missouri. Then he worked

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida at WWPG Radio. Then here in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>he got his own show, The Bob Barker Show, that

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<v Speaker 1>ran for six years out of Burbank. He did a

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<v Speaker 1>show on k and X Radio in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 1>he was just on the radio and Ralph Edwards, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess a big producer was looking for a TV host

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<v Speaker 1>and he heard his voice. He loved it, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I would like to do a version

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<v Speaker 1>of Truth or Consequences on TV. And Bob Barker said,

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<v Speaker 1>the day I met Ralph Edwards. My life changed forever.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly did. He went on to host that show

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many years and at the end of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we all remember what he said, This is Bob Barker

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<v Speaker 1>reminding you to help control the pet population. Have your

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<v Speaker 1>pet Spader newtered. When I was a kid, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what that meant. Like half the people watching

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<v Speaker 1>that as kids, we were just like, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like this mysterious thing he said every single

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<v Speaker 1>time at the end of the show. And now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we know Bob Barker died of natural causes at

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. And you know, by the way, I posted

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<v Speaker 1>the video clip of me on prices right on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at rich on Tech if you want to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit dated, I'll be honest, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit dated because it was a long time ago. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting because you know, this is my birthday

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<v Speaker 1>week actually, and so whenever it's my birthday, I always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think I'd be get very retrospective about things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of think about my life and where

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<v Speaker 1>I've come and where I've been and what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>and where I'm going, and I don't recommend you do

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<v Speaker 1>that because it can really mess with you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So just anyway, I tell you that because I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been very, very retrospective, and I feel like when people

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<v Speaker 1>that you grew up with, your idols start passing away

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<v Speaker 1>as you get older, it's a check, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like you're really sitting there thinking about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I'm at. So anyway, rest in peace,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Barker and all the other folks from my child

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<v Speaker 1>hood that are now passed it. Really, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this show to be a downer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a very positive guy, but it's like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're getting old. When let's see what happened

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<v Speaker 1>this week? Oh yesterday, Okay, So I went through this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing of switching to the pixel fold. Okay, Google

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<v Speaker 1>pixel Fold. I got the phone into test and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna see what Android is like.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a couple of weeks until the Apple event.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna switch the iPhone fifteen. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see what Android's all about by putting my SIM card

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<v Speaker 1>in there. And so I put my SIM card in

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<v Speaker 1>there and it was great. Everything was good, but it

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<v Speaker 1>became this whole thing of my I message and this

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<v Speaker 1>is like this lock that Apple has on Americans with

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<v Speaker 1>this I message situation, and people would it. Really. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fine for a bit until someone sent me a

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<v Speaker 1>video and the video was like postage thumbnail sized, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is this video? I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>My friend was trying to explain something to me in

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<v Speaker 1>a video and I couldn't even see it. He was

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<v Speaker 1>actually to show me how to cut open a I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a papaya that he grew in his backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like this, how you open it? And so I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't watch the video because it was so small. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I got to go back to my iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried to switch my my SIM card back

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<v Speaker 1>to my iPhone, and oh my gosh, what a hassle.

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<v Speaker 1>All these phones have switched to what's called e sims,

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<v Speaker 1>electronic SIMS or embedded SIMS, which means there's no physical

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<v Speaker 1>SIM card. So theoretically you can do the switch online,

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<v Speaker 1>but that did not work. So I was on phone

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with a customer service representative yesterday for

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<v Speaker 1>over an hour trying to get my old phone to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and meantime I had no phone line, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>using my test phone to actually call the customer service rep.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a mess and we spent an hour

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. I said, I got to go. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up my kids at school. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>phone line. I'm growing to pick up my kids. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get back home and I said, let

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<v Speaker 1>me call again, let me try again. I get someone

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and I'm like, I've you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been very frustrating. This has taken over an hour with

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<v Speaker 1>the last person, do you think you can do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, well, what's the eSIM number that you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to activate on the new phone. I said, here

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<v Speaker 1>you go. I got a message on my phone that

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<v Speaker 1>said your phone's active. I said, wait, what you just

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<v Speaker 1>did in thirty seconds when it took the last person

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<v Speaker 1>an hour to try to figure out? And I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>about this, I said, you know this happened, and people

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<v Speaker 1>are calling it customer service rep roulette. Sometimes when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting the satisfaction you need from a customer service rep,

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<v Speaker 1>it is okay to just go ahead and say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we're not getting anywhere here. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>call back, and you call back, you get someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and they change your life. It happened to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting thirty seconds, and it was it was all

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<v Speaker 1>figured out eSIMs. I also get some messages from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time on the show about talking about things and

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<v Speaker 1>not thoroughly explaining them. So let me explain what eSIM is.

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<v Speaker 1>So physical sim cards, if you've ever seen one, is

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<v Speaker 1>that little tiny card. It looks like a chip that

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<v Speaker 1>you pop into your phone and it helps you get

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<v Speaker 1>the cellular signal connects the phone to the cellular network.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've used these for many, many years. But

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<v Speaker 1>an e SIM is now built into the phone, so

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<v Speaker 1>you no longer have to put that physical sim card

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<v Speaker 1>into the phone. Now. Apple was the first to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>this back in like twenty eighteen, and they did it secretly.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't really tell a lot of people. But they've

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<v Speaker 1>started activating these things in the in the Apple stores

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<v Speaker 1>without really making a big deal out of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to test it out and see how it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, it became good enough. We're on the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone fourteen, which is the phone I have it on

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<v Speaker 1>they just did away with the physical simcard slot, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way to put a physical SIM card in

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<v Speaker 1>this new iPhone. And so Apple said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been testing this secretly for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to work out and it's all good. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we're ready to jump off the you know, off

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<v Speaker 1>the dock into the water and just let everyone do this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great until you have a situation like mine yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>where it just didn't work. So what's the benefit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go into a store. You can

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple SIM cards on your phone, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>travel internationally, you can have your regular simcard plus an

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<v Speaker 1>international SIM. It makes it really easy to switch carriers.

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<v Speaker 1>By removing the simcard slot, you can make sleeker and

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<v Speaker 1>smaller devices. In fact, one of the first devices that

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<v Speaker 1>Apple had this on was the Apple Watch because it

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<v Speaker 1>was an embedded simcard, just a little piece of technology inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now pretty much every major phone that comes out has eSIM. Google,

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung has it, and there is a phone I tested recently,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nothing Phone, which didn't have it, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>little odd because I was like, oh, that's weird to

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<v Speaker 1>not have an e SIM. Also, this enables things like

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<v Speaker 1>laptops and tablets to have cellular connectivity. Basically, with eSIM,

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<v Speaker 1>every single device in the world could theoretically be connected

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<v Speaker 1>to cellular, which is what the cellular companies want. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure every device can have it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's cheap enough and small enough where they can just

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<v Speaker 1>build it into this device and now you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a cellular line or a data line for ten bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a month, whatever it is. So eSIMs are really handy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are wanting to switch carriers, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a store, you don't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>get a SIM card. If you want to travel internationally,

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<v Speaker 1>it theoretically makes things more competitive because you have the

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<v Speaker 1>choice of all these carriers. If you don't like who

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<v Speaker 1>you're on, you can switch instantly to a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go overseas, you can download an eSIM. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's all when it works out perfectly. Many people have

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<v Speaker 1>had issues with this, including myself recently. But now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering was it just the customer service person I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to, because the other person did it in about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds, So is it really the technology or is

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe someone that wasn't as trained on this technology.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is, now you know what an

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<v Speaker 1>eSIM is. Electronic simcard is probably in your phone, so

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<v Speaker 1>next time you go to activate your phone, they may

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<v Speaker 1>not have to put any sort of simcard in. The

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<v Speaker 1>Samsungs have both eSIM and a physical SIM. The Google

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<v Speaker 1>phone still have an eSIM and a physical SIM. The

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<v Speaker 1>iPhones just have the eSIM. So now you know all

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<v Speaker 1>about ESM All right. Coming up on this week's show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about Threads. Remember Threads. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Meta's answer to Twitter. They took a big step this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It is now available on the web. So will it

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<v Speaker 1>had it. But anyway, let's go to uh, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Scott to kick things off in Atlanta, Georgia. Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Rich, I heard you talking about not having a

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<v Speaker 3>message on Android on your Samsung found Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 3>use paper? I'm sure you received an invite today Abitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh so, I actually I've been using it, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for a month or so. When it works great with

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<v Speaker 4>that message, you don't have to worry about those little

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that comes through on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's you know, and there's several I actually

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an invite to Beeper, but I have been

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<v Speaker 1>using another program called Sunbird. And it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel guilty doing this, Like I feel like I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong by getting my I messages on an Android phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you talk to almost any tech person, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest non kept secret in the tech world that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most tech people are using an iPhone plus

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<v Speaker 1>an Android device because you've got to keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>both platforms. But for some reason, and Apple knows this.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why Apple does not open up I message

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<v Speaker 1>to the world is because they know people would switch

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<v Speaker 1>away from the iPhone. The iPhone's an amazing device, but

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<v Speaker 1>what really locks people in, at least here in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact of those blue bubbles. You can debate

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<v Speaker 1>me all day you want on that, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>what keeps people locked into that platform. Yes, the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing, but people would quickly forget it if they

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<v Speaker 1>use something else like a Samsung or a Google Pixel

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<v Speaker 1>or the variety of other Android phones out there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone is special, but it's not that special. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really more about the ecosystem. And so anyway, I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that because yes, I do have a system that

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<v Speaker 1>uses Sunbird, which we've actually had them on the show here,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a couple of things I'll go through Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned one, you mentioned Beeper, But there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of companies working on the cross message solution. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Apple does not condone any of this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Apple try well, you know, they don't allow this, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it, they don't build an easy way to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. But these companies have found solutions around Apple's

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<v Speaker 1>lack of support for cross messaging solutions. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I Message is proprietary and it's fantastic, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>cross messaging solutions that would make every phone in the

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<v Speaker 1>world function like I Message. It's called RCS, and Android

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<v Speaker 1>incorporates RCS, which means if you go from Android to Android, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you can send big videos, you can send you know,

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<v Speaker 1>read red receipts, responses, people can see when you're typing,

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<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff. It was a long time coming

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<v Speaker 1>on Android, but now it's across the board. And what

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<v Speaker 1>Apple does is with you know, if they're not if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sending an I message, like if you're sending

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<v Speaker 1>from Apple to an Android. The reason it pops up

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<v Speaker 1>green is because they're using just SMS, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>short Messaging service, which has been around forever, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>an old standard. The new standard is RCS, and Apple

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to adopt that because again I explain why, because

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<v Speaker 1>if they did, it would make everyone happy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would make people forget about this whole iPhone versus Android

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<v Speaker 1>message debacle. I tell you all this because yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Beeper. That's one of them, and all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things are either really tricky to set up or still

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<v Speaker 1>invite only. So Beeper is one b E E P

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<v Speaker 1>E R dot com. The one I'm using is Sunbird.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's one called Blue Bubbles and this is

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<v Speaker 1>open source and you can install this yourself, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is very complicated, so just fair warning there. It requires

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<v Speaker 1>you to have like an Apple computer on at all

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<v Speaker 1>times in your house acting as a server or another setup,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also equally tricky. Then there's one called air

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<v Speaker 1>Message dot org and they do I message. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a Windows computer, Windows actually has a solution.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft has what's called phone Link for iOS, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is available for Windows eleven and this will effectively allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to see your I messages on your Windows computer,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily on your Android phone. So those are a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of solutions you can do. But again, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm using is not necessarily secure because I do

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<v Speaker 1>have to log in with my Apple ID to a

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<v Speaker 1>third party service, and whenever you're doing that, you are

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<v Speaker 1>really opening yourself up to a variety of issues security

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<v Speaker 1>wise and elsewise. So while I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people use these solutions, I can't necessarily say for the

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<v Speaker 1>average person they're very good. I personally wish that Apple

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<v Speaker 1>made an I message app for Android overnight. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be the number one messaging app at least here in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. They could charge ninety nine cents a month

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<v Speaker 1>for it and people would buy it, people would use it,

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<v Speaker 1>But Apple knows on the flip side there would be

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<v Speaker 1>people who deflect to Android. So great question, Scott. To

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<v Speaker 1>kick us off, if you have a question, It's triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. Coming up, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Scott Johnson about the PlayStation Portable. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a new way to play your PS five games on

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<v Speaker 1>the go. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out talking technology with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the line is Scott Johnson, founder of the frog

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<v Speaker 1>Pants Network and host of the Video Games News and

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<v Speaker 1>Views podcast Core Scott, thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Really happy to be here. Rich Thanks all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So of developments this week in the video game world.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is this PlayStation remote play device called the

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<v Speaker 1>PlayStation Portal. This is a one ninety nine dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine cent, so two hundred dollars device that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to play your PS five.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm a little confused.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to explain to me, is this something that

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<v Speaker 1>lets you play the games outside your house or just

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<v Speaker 1>inside your house.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good news it's a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's one been one of the big complaints about

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<v Speaker 6>remote play in the past is it hasn't been great

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<v Speaker 6>for out of the house Wi Fi use, like if

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<v Speaker 6>you went to a hotel or a resort or something

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<v Speaker 6>like that. And a big part of that is just

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<v Speaker 6>you know, remote play has been a little fishy for

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<v Speaker 6>a long time, for years really in terms of quality

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<v Speaker 6>and what you can sort of expect. This device promises

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<v Speaker 6>we'll see if it delivers to be able to take

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<v Speaker 6>you out of the house or anywhere that there's a

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<v Speaker 6>decent Wi Fi connection and be able to remotely not

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<v Speaker 6>only wake your PlayStation five up, but also play that

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<v Speaker 6>game with as little latency as humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're making some really big promises in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea of this, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo switch, but it's tethered almost to your console, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a PlayStation five to use this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not actually doing the processing on board. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of using your system to process the games. Has

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<v Speaker 1>anyone done this before?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in a sense.

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<v Speaker 6>There are some portable devices that are exclusively for streaming

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<v Speaker 6>games from various streaming services, a little bit different than this,

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<v Speaker 6>where you've got, you know, the server housing the games

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<v Speaker 6>is your own PlayStation five. But Logitech, for example, makes

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<v Speaker 6>a device that works with game Pass within vidia's service

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<v Speaker 6>called g Force now various other services, including remote play

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<v Speaker 6>from PlayStation and its job is to just pull from

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<v Speaker 6>the cloud and let you play these games remotely. The

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<v Speaker 6>big difference here is this is a you device, meaning

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<v Speaker 6>this is not a server on the internet somewhere. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not a service you subscribe to. It is your PlayStation

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<v Speaker 6>five at home, running and using your home Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 6>and the Internet to send it to you wherever you

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<v Speaker 6>are so that you can play it. And that may

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<v Speaker 6>sound a little maybe a little out there to a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people, like maybe this is just a weird

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<v Speaker 6>way to play your games. But if you can have

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<v Speaker 6>a successful connection and keep that latency low, there's some

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<v Speaker 6>value in saying, well, I spent three hours last night

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<v Speaker 6>playing this game. I'd sure like to take my progress

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<v Speaker 6>on the road, and that's what this is designed to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, you use the term called latency.

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<v Speaker 1>We often hear this with audio and also video games.

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<v Speaker 5>What does that mean exactly?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, latency is just really when you push a button

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<v Speaker 6>or do an action, how long does it take for

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<v Speaker 6>that to show up on screen?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the simplest way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like depending on your network setup, some

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to have a great set up. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people are a little techier than others. They want a

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<v Speaker 1>minimum of what speed for this. It also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>depends on your router and just your you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have a great router and a great setup, then

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<v Speaker 1>some days you're just like, what's going on with my WiFi?

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<v Speaker 5>Why is it not very good today?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>That is absolutely true. What Sony is saying is if

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<v Speaker 6>you have a five megabyte connection, that you'll be able

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<v Speaker 6>to play, and you'll play okay. If you have up

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<v Speaker 6>to fifteen, that's even better. They recommend fifteen or higher,

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<v Speaker 6>but if you're down to as low as five you

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<v Speaker 6>can get by, that's probably good news. For when you

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<v Speaker 6>are in hotels, I can't imagine. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 6>a hotel I've been to in the last fifteen years

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<v Speaker 6>that had great Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not known for that.

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<v Speaker 6>So it seems like a lot of the on the

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<v Speaker 6>road opportunities are going to be places like hotels and

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<v Speaker 6>resorts and things, and I think you're going to find

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<v Speaker 6>that your experience there may be a little mixed, But

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<v Speaker 6>knowing that five is kind of the bare minimum is reasonable.

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<v Speaker 6>I think for a lot of modern setups, most people

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<v Speaker 6>are kind of they're already. But I think you are

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<v Speaker 6>going to have situations where some people just don't have

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<v Speaker 6>a good setup in their house, so they haven't replaced

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<v Speaker 6>their router in twenty years, and they don't know why

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<v Speaker 6>it's slower there, and so they're going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of tech calls about why isn't this working right?

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<v Speaker 6>Some of those issues and That's why I'm encouraging people

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<v Speaker 6>before they slap the two hundred bucks down that they

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<v Speaker 6>maybe look into try and remote play on other devices.

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<v Speaker 6>Try it on your phone, your Mac, your PC, whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>and see what you're already getting in that environment. Chances are,

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<v Speaker 6>if that's a decent experience, it'll be even better with

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<v Speaker 6>the portal.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the whole audio aspect of this, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>there kind of a weird audio aspect.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a little bit of funky going on with

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<v Speaker 6>this bit, and it feels a little like old Sony,

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<v Speaker 6>like memory stick, PlayStation portable, Vita Sony, where they wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to push a proprietary thing to players in that case

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<v Speaker 6>of with storage and cartridge type. In this case, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a new audio technology that they call PlayStation Link, and

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<v Speaker 6>PlayStation Link is a lossless potentially format or audio technology.

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<v Speaker 6>It will allow you to connect to these devices your

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<v Speaker 6>PlayStation portal and be able to hear audio in a

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<v Speaker 6>lossless way. It's also got two channels and by the

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<v Speaker 6>way they're making these heads they're making a headset and

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<v Speaker 6>a pair of earbuds to coincide with this launch. One

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<v Speaker 6>is called PlayStation Pulse Elite that's the large over the

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<v Speaker 6>ear headset, and the buds are called PlayStation Pulse Explore.

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<v Speaker 6>The real thing to know about those is both of

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<v Speaker 6>these support that link technology, which means this device will

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<v Speaker 6>work wireless wirelessly with those very low latency lossless audio.

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<v Speaker 6>That's really good if you're into the ecosystem and that's

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<v Speaker 6>what you want to hear. But this device does not

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<v Speaker 6>support Bluetooth. So if you've got existing headsets, earbuds or

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<v Speaker 6>whatever laying around and you want to use them with

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<v Speaker 6>this device, you're out of luck. Ironically, though, those devices

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<v Speaker 6>support Bluetooth from other sources, so you could use those earbuds,

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<v Speaker 6>for example, with your iPhone or Android phone, and it

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<v Speaker 6>would recognize it as a Bluetooth device. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of weird it's serving one side and not the other.

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<v Speaker 6>They really want you to buy one of these headsets,

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<v Speaker 6>otherwise you're stuck with speakers or some sort of dongle adapter,

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<v Speaker 6>or at the very least you just you know, plug

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<v Speaker 6>it in with a with a wired headset, which it

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<v Speaker 6>does have support for.

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<v Speaker 1>What about someone who maybe, because this is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to launch during the holidays, someone is purchasing a gift

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<v Speaker 1>for a friend or family member that has a PS five,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a good companion to that device if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind spending the money.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say you're somebody who is one hundred percent in

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<v Speaker 6>the PlayStation ecosystem. You really just care about your PlayStations,

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<v Speaker 6>and right now the five is your PlayStation of the day,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're not dabbling in Steam decks or other you know, switches,

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<v Speaker 6>this sort of thing. If that's the case, and you

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<v Speaker 6>are that level of purest PlayStation player and you play

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<v Speaker 6>all the hoteny releases and you subscribe to their service,

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<v Speaker 6>I think this might be a good buy for those

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<v Speaker 6>for that very specific kind of person, which is what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean about it being kind of a weird, not niche.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's a smaller percentage of even the PlayStation market.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they could have passed a wider net, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>even made this device work with other services. They're not

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<v Speaker 6>going to make it work with xCloud, obviously, but maybe

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<v Speaker 6>it could have worked with in videos service or somebody else's,

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<v Speaker 6>but they chose to keep it all in house. And again,

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<v Speaker 6>if that's all you care about is your PlayStation games

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<v Speaker 6>and you continuing to play them in bed or off

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<v Speaker 6>on your trip, or on the plane or wherever you

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<v Speaker 6>can get that connection. Then yeah, I think two hundred

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<v Speaker 6>bucks is okay, especially if you already spent the six

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<v Speaker 6>hundred a couple of years ago, and you've already you know,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 6>you've forgotten about that loss of cash in your wallet.

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<v Speaker 5>Scott, what game are you playing these days?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>I have so many on my list, but right now

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<v Speaker 6>it's all about Balder's Gate three. The good news is

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<v Speaker 6>Balder's Gate three within a week or two, I believe,

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<v Speaker 6>launches on PlayStation five, and for a while it will

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<v Speaker 6>be a PS five console exclusive until the Xbox versions

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<v Speaker 6>ready later this year. This game is breaking every possible

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<v Speaker 6>record you can think of, including reviews and scores. Kind

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<v Speaker 6>of just shattered the world this year and a year

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<v Speaker 6>that has already got amazing games in it, Balder's Gate

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<v Speaker 6>three is the place to be, and PlayStation five owners

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<v Speaker 6>are about to get it, so I'm excited for them,

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<v Speaker 6>and it probably will plague really well on this device,

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<v Speaker 6>so I guess look forward to that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Johnson, founder of the frog Pants Network and host

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<v Speaker 1>of the video games news and views podcast Core.

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<v Speaker 5>Where can folks find you online?

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<v Speaker 6>Best place to go would be FrogPants dot com. If

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<v Speaker 6>you're looking for Core or any other podcasts we do

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<v Speaker 6>frog pants dot com. We'll have a whole listing there

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 6>of those podcasts, and if you want to check me

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 6>out online, you can usually find me in all the

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 6>socials is either Scott Johnson or frog Pants.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look forward to seeing you there.

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<v Speaker 5>Scott, thanks so much for joining me today. If you

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<v Speaker 5>have a question about technology, hop on the phone is

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<v Speaker 5>triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 5>seven four two four one zero one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Tech right after this, welcome back to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at triple A rich one on one. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to John in Mission Viejo, California. John, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with.

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<v Speaker 8>Rich Well, thank you very much. My question has to

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<v Speaker 8>do with two models of iPhone. The first one is

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<v Speaker 8>the fourteen Promax and the second one is the se model.

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<v Speaker 8>We're traveling to Europe in a couple of months and

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<v Speaker 8>I need to know if I need a converter to

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<v Speaker 8>go from sixty cycles to fifty cycles for each phone,

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<v Speaker 8>or can I just buy an adapter. That is each phone,

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<v Speaker 8>can it detect fifty cycles all by self?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So here's my experience with this. The only time

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<v Speaker 1>you need a travel there's two things. There's a travel

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<v Speaker 1>conver and then there's there's a voltage converter, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a travel adapter. So what you need is just

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to travel adapter because if you look on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look on the tiny tiny print on these

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<v Speaker 1>plugs that you've got, they pretty much do fifty and

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:23.479
<v Speaker 1>sixty hurts like you mentioned, So it's it's automatically going

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<v Speaker 1>to handle that part. The main thing you need to know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this, I think is is really tricky for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, and myself included when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Europe for the first time, this was

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what to expect. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if my phone was going to melt when

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I plugged it in, right, But the reality is most

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<v Speaker 1>of the I guess you would call it the plug,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the thing that you plug into the wall

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, right, what would you call that, John.

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<v Speaker 8>I would call that the electrical receptacle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, no, what okay? The thing that you plug

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<v Speaker 1>into that what would you call that, the little like

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<v Speaker 1>square thing, what would you call that?

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<v Speaker 8>I would call that an adapter?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the adapter, So the adapter that we have

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, the one that you plug your

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone like USB cord into. Those typically handle a range

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<v Speaker 1>of If you look on the back, it says input

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred to two hundred and forty volts one point

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<v Speaker 1>five amps, and then fifty to sixty hertz. So what

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<v Speaker 1>that means is that this device itself can handle a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of fluctuation with the power supply. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think what it comes down to is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>plug on the end needs to be converted to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to plug into a European plug, you know, wall

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>outlet or something like that. So I don't The short

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<v Speaker 1>answer is all you need is an adapter. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have an adapter?

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<v Speaker 9>So far?

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<v Speaker 8>If you have that, no, But I can go down

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<v Speaker 8>and I can buy a couple of adapters. We're going

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<v Speaker 8>over to Greece and then we're going to go over

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<v Speaker 8>to Italy and then also Craotia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh very nice, very exciting. Well, one adapter should handle that.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that I like, that's it's very inexpensive. I've

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<v Speaker 1>used this in various countries. It's on Amazon. It's not

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>just me that likes this. It's got eleven thousand ratings.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty popular. It's the Epica EPI CKA and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a travel adapter that works in you know, different countries.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It's got USB on the bottom, the large USB and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on sale for eighteen dollars and thirty nine cents.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like that one. And it's got one USBC.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea is that you can actually plug that

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<v Speaker 1>into the wall and then you don't even need your converter.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You can just or your wall adapter. You can just

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>plug your USB directly into that. Now that's going to

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>work nicely. But if you want something that powers up

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<v Speaker 1>devices faster, I do also like this one called one

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<v Speaker 1>Adapter one World one hundred, and this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more expensive. It's closer to like ninety dollars, but

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>this will power things like your laptop and your tablet

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<v Speaker 1>without the need for your adapter at all. So you

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>can plug that directly into the wall, then plug your

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>USBC into it. It's got two USB C two USBA

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and you can plug that. But what you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know when you travel is that most of your regular gadgets,

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<v Speaker 1>like your phones and your tablets and your laptops, those

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<v Speaker 1>will all be fine with the adapters that you already have,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just need a travel adapter. It's when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at things like appliances. So if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a hair dryer or a hair straightener, that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>need a travel voltage converter. And so that's where it

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 1>gets a little bit trickier because those have a different

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>power requirement, and so those those definitely are not definitely

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>but many times need a converter. So that's the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I know it's so complicated because it's but basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've found is that most of the things just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of work. So that's the good news, all right, John,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the question today from a mission Viejo. Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see here. Let me talk about two things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should know about here. Number one, Meta

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Meta has rolled out a new version of threads, and

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Threads is now on the web. So remember we talked

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>about threads. This is sort of their answer to Twitter

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>from Facebook. It is now available on the internet. I

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 1>know it does not sound weird, but it was. It

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>was previously available on the apps on iOS and Android

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and on the internet you can only view someone's thread.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But now you can actually go to the website threads

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>let's see, is it threads dot net and you can search,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you can post, you can repost whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can basically do most of the functionality that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do on the app version on the web. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean, Well, it just gives Twitter a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a competition because before, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were a really hardcore user of this, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>go on your phone, and it was tough to just

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>leave this on on your computer all day because it

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do anything. But now you can leave it on

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 1>your computer. You can do the same stuff you can do.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you haven't checked out threads lately, check it

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>out again threads dot net. You just log in with

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>your Instagram and you can read, you can write, you

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>can post, you can repost, and it just gets a

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit closer to a product that is easier to

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<v Speaker 1>use more so. You know, they had one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>sign ups within five days of launch back in July,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a lot of people dropped off, so according

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<v Speaker 1>to let's see Reuters and Let's see similar Web says

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>daily active users on threads dropped to ten million from

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>a peak of fifty million within a month. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I could tell this myself and just kind

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, casually observing that. Yeah, I just

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't really use it that much because you had to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the phone app and I just forgot. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a LinkedIn account, they are under attack. Cyberint

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<v Speaker 1>says their research team has observed an alarming trend lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people getting hacked on LinkedIn and this is happening

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<v Speaker 1>to people around the world. And what they do once

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<v Speaker 1>they get into your account, they post bad links, they

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>post mean things, They try to use your account to

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>trick other people. They do a whole bunch of the

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>standard stuff that they do when people hack you. People

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>always say, why do they want to hack me? What

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>do they want to do with my account? Well, they're

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to trick your friends. They're basically when you have

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a hacked account, that account is legitimate, and so because

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a legitimate account, you can do things on that

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>account and fly under the radar for longer, which means

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you can message a lot of people and ask for money.

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<v Speaker 1>You can post a lot of stuff without the spam

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>flags getting you because it thinks that you're a regular account.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why spammers don't just set up a new account.

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<v Speaker 1>They love to have your account because your account is

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<v Speaker 1>marked as a legitimate account. Computer systems can figure out

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>when spammers sign up for thousands of accounts all at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time because it all comes from the same

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<v Speaker 1>IP address, and there's other things that kind of indicate

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that that those are not real people, their bots. But

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>when they take over your account, it says, oh, this

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 1>is an account that's been around for a while, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been used for a while, and so it's more trusted

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they like those accounts better than setting

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<v Speaker 1>up new accounts. Anyway, if you have a LinkedIn account,

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<v Speaker 1>it is now a good time to go through and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that there are no other email addresses or

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>old email addresses on your account. Change your password, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it is a specific password just for LinkedIn,

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<v Speaker 1>don't reuse one, and turn on two step verification. This

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<v Speaker 1>will send you a text when someone tries to log

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<v Speaker 1>into your account. Definitely secure your LinkedIn account because you

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<v Speaker 1>do not want something posted to your LinkedIn and your

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<v Speaker 1>boss sees it, right, and it's something that's really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a really look because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>people use for work and all that good stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if you have a question for me, give

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up this hour, we're gonna talk to Chris, doctor

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Chris Pearson. He is going to talk about def Con,

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>all things AI and hacking. Plus, uh, maybe you got

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>an email from Shutterfly. I'll explain what that is. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a cool new app that is a good alternative

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to IMDb, and plus I'll tell you about AT and

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>t's new way to get internet to your house. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick things off of John John in Los Angeles. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi.

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<v Speaker 11>Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>I switched my home internet last week, and I have

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 9>a Gmail account that it won't let me log in

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 9>since I switched the internet. So I go to log

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 9>in and I'm getting a message that says we need

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 9>to verify that it was you. And I put the

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 9>correct security word ahead written down, and it still won't

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 9>let me log in. And then I put the correct

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 9>password and I get the same message again that says

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 9>we can't verify that it's you.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm I'm sort of at a lot.

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<v Speaker 9>Of what to do about it. I called Google's eight

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<v Speaker 9>hundred number and stayed on on hold for about four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they didn't answer.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know they had an a hundred number.

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<v Speaker 1>They do Google, Okay, So number one, is this your

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<v Speaker 1>primary account?

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<v Speaker 9>It's not, It's a it's like a backup account. One

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 9>of the problems I'm having is I use it to

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 9>verify a subscription service, so now I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 9>cancel the subscription because I can't log into that email,

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<v Speaker 9>so it's preventing me from doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, so I think I think what's happening here

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>is your your change of provider has triggered some sort

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of security situation with Google. That's what I'm understanding. Have

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you logged into this account on any other device that

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you still have, like your cell phone?

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<v Speaker 9>Perhaps no, I haven't, And that's sort of the problem

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<v Speaker 9>because there's a message that says, go to a device

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<v Speaker 9>where you're already.

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<v Speaker 11>Logged in, right right, you'll be able.

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<v Speaker 9>To confirm it. But because it's a backup email, I only,

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 9>you know, on purpose, ever used it on my laptop,

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<v Speaker 9>so I never had a reason to log into it

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<v Speaker 9>on a phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I would, Okay, So what email Google is

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is, yeah, they're trying to verify that

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it is you. And it's interesting that it's still triggering

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<v Speaker 1>all of these security alerts when you're logging in with

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the correct information. That's what's a little bit concerning. And

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a bigger message to everyone that

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>has an account that you know, anything can happen at

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>any time. So if you think that just because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got your stuff backed up or sorry, not backed up.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>If you think you have your you know, like you said,

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you wrote down your code word, you have your password,

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and you still can't get access to this account. Now,

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>remember these are free accounts, so I mean, you know

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you're always giving and taking with that because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>in the terms of service at some point it says

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere like we don't guarantee anything. You know, we may

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<v Speaker 1>take this away from you at any time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>say that because you know, we got to back up

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>our information just in case something like this happens. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you will get regain access to this account.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would do is I would try logging

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<v Speaker 1>in from another device that you have, like your smartphone.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I would try logging in from there see if that works.

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I know that you didn't log in

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<v Speaker 1>from that before, but it may. It may like the

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that you're logging in from another device that you've

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>either surfed the web on with Google or done something

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>on there, even though you didn't log into there. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you know, obviously, you can go to the account recovery,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>which it sounds like you've already done. But on that

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>account recovery page, if you Google and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful with the phone numbers that you call, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you just Google for a phone number, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recommend doing that. But if you type in Gmail recovery

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>into Google, and Gmail help page comes up says how

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<v Speaker 1>to recover your Google account or Gmail, and it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you some tips on there, and I think, John, there's

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of good tips on there. Where it says

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<v Speaker 1>let's see here, it says that there's a way to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like log in from a device that you've

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 1>already logged in from. It gives you like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go some a tip from Tips for Recovery. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>answer as many questions as possible. Use a familiar device

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and location. Use a computer, phone or tablet where you

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<v Speaker 1>frequently sign in, use the same browser being a location

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that you usually sign in from home or work. Be

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>exact with passwords and answers to security questions. And let's

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>see what else here? Enter an email connected here account.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>So those are all kind of ways you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look in the upper right hand corner of

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>this help page, there is a contact us and I

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>think that that would be easier to contact Google than

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>calling them. I have chatted with Google before with issues,

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and they absolutely do help. And I think that the

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>chat is a much better way of getting some help

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with this than calling in the phone number. Like you said,

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel for you. I like that you had things

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>written down, and you've got your recovery word and your password.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Everything is written down. It sounds like you're doing the

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>right thing. But this is indeed frustrating. And I know

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>how frustrating is because in this very room that I'm

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>sitting in, the first time that I logged into my

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Google in this room, I set off some sort of

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>red alert at Google that locked out every single one

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of my Google features. And I about had a heart

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>attack when I saw every single one of my systems.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw my computer, my phone, my tablet, everything logged

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>out because it said, sorry, we noticed unauthorized access to

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 1>your account. I guess because it was the first time

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I was logging in from here and they didn't like it.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And my heart stopped because I said, what if I

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get access to my account again? That would be really,

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.959
<v Speaker 1>really bad. And what you've just described is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that even if you take the time to make sure

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you have all of your login info, these systems can

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>lock you out for any reason, even as simple as

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>changing your ISP your Internet service provider, and it's saying, hmm,

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't really like this. We've never seen John log

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>in this way before. So it is a scary reminder

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 1>that we need to back up our information. We need

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to write down those recovery passwords and those codes that

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>they give us, and we need to keep good notes

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>about our passwords because sometimes they ask you for an

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>old password and they say, hey, what was your password

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>before this? And you know, Google is up against a

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff here. They're up against a lot of

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 1>people that are trying to break into accounts twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven, and so they come up with these systems

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that are not perfect, but hopefully they filter out a

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of the bad actors. So John, check out that

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>support page, try to chat with Google. And you know,

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this, make sure that you back

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>up your stuff. I'm guilty of not having a backup

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of everything, so I need to do that, and so

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>do you, especially your pictures, your files, anything that's important.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Your Gmail. You can use what's called Google takeout. So

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>if you have a Google account, check out Google Takeout.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>You can download your data from Google using that service,

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and it may take a while depending on how much

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you have, but it can definitely help. Thanks for the call, John,

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and I hope you get recovery on your account and

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>email me and let me know if you do. Speaking

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of shutting down accounts, shut or fly has been setting

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of emails. At first, they were going to

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>shut down any accounts that had not been active for

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months, so if you didn't make a purchase, or

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't do anything on your account, basically, if

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.919
<v Speaker 1>you didn't make a purchase in the past eighteen months,

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>they were going to delete all of your photos. Well,

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>apparently a new CEO has taken over and they said,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>we're gon, we're gonna pause this idea because we don't

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like it anymore. So now accounts that even if you

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't make a purchase in the past eighteen months, they're

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>going to keep your photos on Shutterfly. But if you

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't done anything in five years, they're still going to

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>delete them. So you may have gotten that email from Shutterfly.

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is if you want to keep your

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>photos on Shutterfly that you've had there forever, you need

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to make a purchase within five years, So that's that's

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of the bottom line that I'm reading here. If

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you haven't made a purchase in eighteen months, we still

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>designate your account as inactive, but we're not going to

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 1>delete those pictures. Very very confusing, shutterfly. You need someone

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>better to write your emails, because it took me about

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>an hour to read this email and figure out what

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to tell me. So this app is pretty cool.

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are talking about it. It's called

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>call Sheet c A L L S H e e T.

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>This is an iOS alternative to IMDb. IMDb is really

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 1>cool because it can keep track of all the movies

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to watch. You can look up people, but

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.439
<v Speaker 1>it's gotten really cluttered ever since Amazon purchased it, and

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just got a lot of junk on there. So

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want something that's really clean, check out call Sheet.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are talking about this. I downloaded it.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>It is very clean. It's only on iPhone for now,

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and you do have to pay after a bunch of

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>free searches. It's either a dollar a month or nine

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year, But don't let that dissuade you. I

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>would still download this if you are looking for an

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>app to keep track of your movies and you know

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.479
<v Speaker 1>you just want to look things up. It's pretty cool.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's got a way to look up actors, see

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what movies are in. You can keep a list of

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the things you want to watch, and it also links

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>out to just watch to see where a TV show

0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 1>or movie is streaming. It's not quite as detailed IMDb,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here at

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<v Speaker 1>to Judy in San Diego. Judy, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 12>Hi.

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<v Speaker 13>Rich.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking I'm an older person. I'm thinking of getting

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<v Speaker 7>my first smartphone. However, I do have an Apple iPad Mini,

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<v Speaker 7>so I'm somewhat familiar with devices. I've had the rugged

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<v Speaker 7>kios Era uh duraphone XB I think that you get

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<v Speaker 7>from you buy them to Verizon.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>So I have really liked this phone because you can

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<v Speaker 7>drop it in the pool, you can drop it on concrete.

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<v Speaker 7>It really holds up. They call the military garade grade

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<v Speaker 7>for durability. Oh yeah, so what would what would your

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<v Speaker 7>Are you familiar with the these and I wondered what

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<v Speaker 7>your opinion would be if I went for the latest

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<v Speaker 7>one that is coming out, the Kyosera Dura Force Ultra

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<v Speaker 7>five G. It's eight ninety nine and I can drop it,

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<v Speaker 7>and I dropped stuff all the time. I wouldn't worry

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<v Speaker 7>about it cracking and breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the Dura Force Pro three smartphone military.

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<v Speaker 7>Standard they have. They have a newer one coming out now.

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<v Speaker 7>You can even get a new battery.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Yeah, this is on Verizon this just just

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<v Speaker 1>came out. It looks like July I got the information.

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<v Speaker 1>IPX IP sixty eight Dust and waterproof Military. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>than a set of specs. Let's see here. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise level durability, Hazardous Location Protection, Wi Fi sixty Blazing

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<v Speaker 1>five g dual SIM Enhanced Security, Outdoor Visible Display X

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<v Speaker 1>frame structure adds reinforcement to withstand drops, dirt, water, and more,

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<v Speaker 1>washed and sanitized Qualcom Snapdragon seven six gigs a RAM.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else here. Forty two seventy million hour

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<v Speaker 1>battery slide lock to prevent unintended displacement. Oh, removable and

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<v Speaker 1>replaceable battery. That's what you were talking about. Huh. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. This is aimed towards construction workers. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's are you. Are you dropping your phone a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you on construction side?

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<v Speaker 12>No?

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<v Speaker 7>I have arthritis in my fingers, so I find I

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<v Speaker 7>dropped stuff a lot. Plus I do ride a bicycle.

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<v Speaker 7>I have an e bike, and even though I'm older,

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<v Speaker 7>I do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, wow, you have an e bike. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a little high techie Judy, Well not.

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<v Speaker 7>Really high Techee. I mean I just do a lot,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm not techie because I've never had a smartphone yet,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm thinking because I have really liked this other

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<v Speaker 7>phone so much and dropped it so many times and

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<v Speaker 7>never had a problem, I'm thinking of going with that.

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<v Speaker 7>But it is Android, and so is this one I have.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't get data on it because I use

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<v Speaker 7>my iPad for that. So I'm wondering what the drawbacks

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<v Speaker 7>would be of not going with a more well known

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<v Speaker 7>brand like Samsung or a smartphone iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so good question. I think number one, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the top drawback is the price. You're paying a very

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<v Speaker 1>premium price for this device, and I think it has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of features that you may not need per se.

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<v Speaker 1>At nine hundred dollars. Now, it may be cheaper if

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, if they give you a deal or

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<v Speaker 1>something through Verizon. But the other thing is that the software.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to look at the the software kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like what they say, and I'm trying to see if

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<v Speaker 1>it says it on here, you know, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the new Android phones the software is updated for

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<v Speaker 1>about three to five years, so it depends if this phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has that many years of lasting out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can be just fine with a phone that

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<v Speaker 1>has a really nice case on it. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>went with like, let's say you want to stick to Android,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a Pixel seven a for like four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty bucks something like that, and a case

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<v Speaker 1>that is like maybe fifty dollars, and you could have

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<v Speaker 1>a case that's pretty much going to be almost as

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<v Speaker 1>protective as this device.

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<v Speaker 7>Because well, I probably probably go with the with the

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<v Speaker 7>Apple then, because I already have the Apple device for

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<v Speaker 7>the iPad Mini. And my concern too was I used

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<v Speaker 7>my phone for basics. I don't use it like oh

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<v Speaker 7>yeah with all these apps and stuff, but I do

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<v Speaker 7>like the camera on my old iPad mini, and for

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<v Speaker 7>if I get a smartphone, i'd probably want to transfer

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<v Speaker 7>the pictures over to my iPad mini. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 7>if you can do that with the Androids do switch

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<v Speaker 7>them over?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you can. You can switch that over. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's an app actually called switch to iOS, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you could download that to your Android. Sorry move okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see what the app is called. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>move to.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have a computer, no, it would just have

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<v Speaker 7>to go to the.

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<v Speaker 1>iPad yep, This is called move to iOS and that

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<v Speaker 1>will help you move your your pictures from there to

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<v Speaker 1>your uh to the iOS phone. So you would install

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<v Speaker 1>that on your Android and it would help you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would recommend for you. I think the iPhone SE

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that would be a good phone

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<v Speaker 1>to get. And I think the benefit of getting this

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<v Speaker 1>is that you put a good case on there. And

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<v Speaker 1>the case. I mean, there's so many rugged cases out

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<v Speaker 1>there that you know. I mean, I love the case

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the stuff from Spec so those are great cases. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can get one that's our zag. They

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<v Speaker 1>have them that are you know, rug it up to

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like thirteen feet drops and then you get a nice

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>screen protector on there and you're pretty much covered, and

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<v Speaker 1>this will have a home button. I think the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>SE would probably be a good one for you. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts at four hundred and thirty dollars. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>you get the case and the screen protector, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five hundred dollars. And once you've got to protected,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be easier because it has everything

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<v Speaker 1>you need. You've got friends and family to help, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Apple stores to walk into if you need

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<v Speaker 1>help with that, so, Judy, I think that that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a better bet. But if you like the Kyo

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and you like the rugged phone, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be paying more for something you may not need.

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<v Speaker 1>So good question. Thanks for calling today. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to doctor Chris Pearson, founder of

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<v Speaker 1>Black Cloak. We're gonna talk about AI and hacking right

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<v Speaker 1>here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here talking tech with you at triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>you are all having a field day with my old

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<v Speaker 1>school video of me on the Price is Right. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>I had a different haircut, Yes I was younger. No

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't win anything. Yes I got down to contestants

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<v Speaker 1>row And actually I didn't mention this when I first

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<v Speaker 1>told you about Bob Barker, but he actually scolded me

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<v Speaker 1>on the show because I was going to USC and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy next to me was going to Pepperdine and

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<v Speaker 1>here in Los Angeles, Soo's are kind of rivals. Not really,

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<v Speaker 1>but I made a jab at Pepperdin and Bob Barker

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<v Speaker 1>just barked at me. He was like, don't make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of his school, and I was like, whoa. It was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me on the line is doctor Chris Pearson, CEO

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<v Speaker 1>and founder of Black Cloak. Doctor Chris, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey Rich good here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So tell me first off about black Cloak. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with black Cloak?

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<v Speaker 14>Black Cloak provides concierge, cybersecurity, and privacy protection to high

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<v Speaker 14>net worth ALDR high networth individuals, celebrities, sports stars, rock stars,

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<v Speaker 14>folks that are in the public eye, Folks that people

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<v Speaker 14>want to get their personal information on, want to get

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<v Speaker 14>their pictures, want to hack into their homes or their

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<v Speaker 14>camera feeds.

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<v Speaker 11>They're really having a you know, either an obsession with.

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<v Speaker 14>Them or more importantly, they want to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 14>steal their money or steal information or documents or things

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<v Speaker 14>about them. And we protect those individuals through our black

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<v Speaker 14>Cloak platform. So kind of a higher end solution for

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<v Speaker 14>those people that have very very high end knee and

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<v Speaker 14>high end targets after them.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, I never really thought about that, But that must

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<v Speaker 1>be so wild. If you're a celebrity, you must be

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<v Speaker 1>almost under attack twenty four to seven by these security threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you, let's just say, you get like a

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<v Speaker 1>Nest camera for your house and it's set up wrong

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.359
<v Speaker 1>and someone taps into that, it's like, oh, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be really bad. So do you actually physically go to

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 1>like these people's places and like see their setups or

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<v Speaker 1>is it more like you know how to secure their Gmail?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's definitely how to secure their Gmail.

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<v Speaker 14>But I mean our platform actually goes in ahead and

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<v Speaker 14>assesses their homes every seven days. So literally, we have

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<v Speaker 14>an entire team of individuals that every seven days tries

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<v Speaker 14>to break into our clients' homes.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's just say celebrity it breaks.

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<v Speaker 14>It tries to break into the celebrities' homes and we

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<v Speaker 14>try to see if we can get in. Can we

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<v Speaker 14>get into the camera, can get into their internet, can

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 14>we get into their Wi Fi? Can we get into

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<v Speaker 14>their systems? All done remotely through our platform, And if yes,

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<v Speaker 14>then we'll work with their AB company, their AB probrider

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<v Speaker 14>to go ahead and close those gaps. And if no,

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 14>then they can rest with the kind of peace of

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<v Speaker 14>mind and kind of be safe from all those digital threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that is so wild. So what is

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<v Speaker 1>your advice for the average person that obviously, you know, uh,

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>just wants to stay protected. Do you think that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to break into the average person's home

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<v Speaker 1>network or Wi Fi or you know, security cameras very

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<v Speaker 1>easily or do you think that these systems have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where they're pretty good out of the box.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, what's interesting is the ones that are you know,

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<v Speaker 14>kind of the consumer DIY solutions right, A lot of

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 14>them now auto update, they auto apply patches. Really, the

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<v Speaker 14>number one way to get in on a consumer grade

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<v Speaker 14>solution is going to be because they're using a username

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<v Speaker 14>i e. Your email address and a password that has

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 14>been breached and it's the same password you use everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 14>It's like all the usual stuff you talk about of, Hey,

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 14>have a unique password for those key sites, a camera system.

0:57:58.000 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 11>Your ring, doorbell, your nest, all the rest of this.

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<v Speaker 14>You're going to want a unique pass for all those

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 14>but more importantly, more importantly, turn on dual factor authentication

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 14>for all of those accounts, all of those devices. And

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 14>the email that controls them, your Gmail, your Yahoo, whatever

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<v Speaker 14>it might be. Turn on dual factor for that. That's

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 14>going to be the single greatest piece of advice that

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 14>we can give to consumers. On the celebrity side, these

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 14>are really expensive, high end solutions, high end cameras. There's

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<v Speaker 14>a whole other extra layer of patching that needs to happen,

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 14>security updates, and really system architecture. These homes are kind

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 14>of like small businesses, so to speak. So there's a

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 14>lot more there. But for the everyday consumer, phrase told

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<v Speaker 14>you to do one thing, it would be this, turn

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<v Speaker 14>on dual factor authentication onto your IoT, your Internet of

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<v Speaker 14>Things device, your camera system, whatever it might be. Turn

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<v Speaker 14>on dual factor authentication on there. That is going to

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<v Speaker 14>protect you up at that ninety five percent plus mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're recently at the black Hat conference. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>there's black Hat and there's def Con. They go on

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<v Speaker 1>kind of simultaneously in Vegas. Explain the difference.

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<v Speaker 14>So black Hat ends up being a conference that is

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<v Speaker 14>maybe more corporate focused. So it's kind of the summer

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<v Speaker 14>summer activity for chief information security officers. So at all

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<v Speaker 14>large companies, they have chief information security officers CISOs, and

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<v Speaker 14>so they'll come to black Hat and they'll be looking

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<v Speaker 14>for the latest and greatest technology. Talk to the vendors,

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<v Speaker 14>talk to suppliers, figure out how new things can either

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<v Speaker 14>automate more make more simple their corporate structure, the corporate

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<v Speaker 14>security posture, and also to integrate and talk to and

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<v Speaker 14>collaborate with one another. It's probably one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 14>benefits of me as a former chief information security officer.

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<v Speaker 11>It's one of the biggest benefits of black Hat.

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<v Speaker 14>In a relaxed environment in Las Vegas, be able to

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<v Speaker 14>get together, sit, have a beer of people, talk to people,

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<v Speaker 14>chat with people that are your peers.

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<v Speaker 11>What are you doing well on? What could you better on?

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<v Speaker 14>Ask people about things that you have problems with, and

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<v Speaker 14>there's a lot of information sharing and knowledge sharing there.

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<v Speaker 14>Then def CON's a little more can we call it

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<v Speaker 14>summer camp for hackers. It's more where the higher intent

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<v Speaker 14>behind def con is to push the envelopes, push the limits.

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<v Speaker 11>They have a whole bunch of like hacker villages that

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<v Speaker 11>are set up.

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<v Speaker 14>It might be an electric system, might be voter machines,

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<v Speaker 14>it could be anything, and the folks actually will break

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<v Speaker 14>in and try to hack into those devices and they'll compete.

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<v Speaker 14>They'll compete for awards, so compete for prices, they'll compete

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<v Speaker 14>for notoriety, and.

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<v Speaker 11>So all that is at def Con.

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<v Speaker 14>Two very very different conferences, but a great way to

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<v Speaker 14>grow your mind no matter which audience you fall into.

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<v Speaker 1>That is amazing and it's so interesting, the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of being in person, Like I go to a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of these shows every year, and it's just so great

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<v Speaker 1>to be with your peers, to actually talk about stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in person, because that's when you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>over the drinks, over the beer, over the meetings, where

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<v Speaker 1>you actually get to like say, hey, I'm seeing this,

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<v Speaker 1>like what do you think of that? And just see

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<v Speaker 1>what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>What were some of your big takeaways? Like, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>that AI was a big topic of conversation this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your big takeaways from the conference?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean, I will tell you a lot of

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<v Speaker 14>us were talking about AI and where we're actually at

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<v Speaker 14>there's a lot of hype here right now. I mean

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<v Speaker 14>as we take a look at things, there's kind of normal.

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<v Speaker 14>There's kind of normal machine learning, which is more if

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<v Speaker 14>this than that. So it's ways of looking at things

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<v Speaker 14>and saying, if a then go ahead and turn a

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<v Speaker 14>red switch and then turn a blue switch. And then

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<v Speaker 14>it allows you to predictively analyze and assess certain things.

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<v Speaker 14>It could be for anti fraud purposes, for into money laundering,

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<v Speaker 14>for cybersecurity. But machine learning has really grown up a

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<v Speaker 14>lot and been integrated into a lot more corporate cybersecurity products.

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<v Speaker 11>Generative AI.

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<v Speaker 14>This kind of chat GPT that we're all talking about,

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<v Speaker 14>generative means it actually creates something for you. You know, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>I want you to go ahead and write a story

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<v Speaker 14>about a man walking on the beach and he meets

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<v Speaker 14>his a favorite new dog. Whatever it might be, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>you can put that into chat GPT. It will generate

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<v Speaker 14>it for you. It could be a picture, it could

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<v Speaker 14>be an image, could be a story. Of course, that

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<v Speaker 14>has enabled AI to get out into the hands of

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<v Speaker 14>the everyday person. Corporate security AI, I mean it is evolving,

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<v Speaker 14>but not quite there yet.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean there's a.

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<v Speaker 14>Lot of a lot of kind of uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>marketing going.

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<v Speaker 11>On about AI. AI AI. We're not all the way

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<v Speaker 11>there yet. But what is.

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<v Speaker 14>Happening is that to the extent things are growing and

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<v Speaker 14>becoming better. They are being integrated into corporate systems, but also,

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<v Speaker 14>quite honestly, it's aber criminals are doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 14>I'll give you an example. So generative AI allows for

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<v Speaker 14>you to write something in better English to make it

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<v Speaker 14>sound better right now, kind of the crutch of a

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<v Speaker 14>lot of phishing emails is ooh, it has some spellings.

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<v Speaker 14>It doesn't use words or language that we would find

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<v Speaker 14>in common parlance here in the United States. And so

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<v Speaker 14>I want to write an email that tells you that

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<v Speaker 14>your username and password has expired and you need to

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<v Speaker 14>click here on the link. Well, I can tell that

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<v Speaker 14>to chat GPT and it will push out something that

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<v Speaker 14>is grammatically correct, looks accurate, has much better English, no

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<v Speaker 14>broken English, and therefore it makes it for a consumer

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<v Speaker 14>to spot whether it's a phishing email or not because

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<v Speaker 14>it's been generated correctly.

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<v Speaker 11>That's probably one of the biggest things that we see

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<v Speaker 11>and upward trend on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's scary. So basically, these AI systems can help

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<v Speaker 1>these even if you don't really have a commanding use

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<v Speaker 1>of the English language, it can help them write in

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<v Speaker 1>that method. What about this yes scam that you were mentioning?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, so I mean, we're seeing a lot more

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<v Speaker 14>in terms of phone scams out there, you know, tech

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<v Speaker 14>support scams where somebody calls and says, hey, I'm Microsoft

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<v Speaker 14>on Apple you have something wrong with your computer?

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<v Speaker 11>Can we jump on it and help you?

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<v Speaker 14>And the person says, yeah, of course you can, and

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<v Speaker 14>you download a program. They get on and right, you've

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<v Speaker 14>now paid money to somebody and also they've taken all

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<v Speaker 14>your data. What we're actually seeing right now is some

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<v Speaker 14>of the what we call the the yes scams. So

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<v Speaker 14>this is where a scammer goes ahead and calls you

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<v Speaker 14>and gets you to say, you know, hey, am I

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<v Speaker 14>talking too rich? And the answer is yes, and they'll

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<v Speaker 14>record your voice saying yes, this is rich and they

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<v Speaker 14>can use that to replay back into bank systems for

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<v Speaker 14>voice identification and fingerprinting, so to speak. So what we're

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<v Speaker 14>seeing is this happening a lot more. You know, can

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<v Speaker 14>you hear me? And then the answer is yes, Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 14>that's tricky. Yeah, Well it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 14>you know, you say, hey, is this rich? It's your bank?

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<v Speaker 14>On answer is yes, hey rich, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 14>Is this call going okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 14>That gets you to immediatelicit that yes response, and so

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<v Speaker 14>it becomes very very very dangerous and potentially can be

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<v Speaker 14>used in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. I was on the phone yesterday with my

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<v Speaker 1>wireless company and they said, hey, can we make a

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<v Speaker 1>voice fingerprint of your of your fingerprint of your voice

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<v Speaker 1>to read for biometrics, And I was like, I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's your advice on that? Should people be saying

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<v Speaker 1>no to that or yes?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know how many times you and I have

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<v Speaker 11>said yes or no on this call. I know here

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<v Speaker 11>at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 14>Line is that many corporations are actually using your recorded

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<v Speaker 14>voice when you call in so they can get a

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<v Speaker 14>what's called a baseline. They can know how you sound.

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<v Speaker 14>It doesn't really change all that much, you know, once

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<v Speaker 14>you're in your twenties and thirties, it's not really changing

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<v Speaker 14>that much.

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<v Speaker 11>And so if that is your bank doing it.

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<v Speaker 14>Or even your wireless carrier, I mean, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 14>interesting because on the wireless carry side, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of what's called sim swapping going on, and so if

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<v Speaker 14>you actually were to have said yes you can and

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<v Speaker 14>have I don't know, let's just save horizon record your

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<v Speaker 14>voice and do a baseline.

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<v Speaker 11>It actually can.

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<v Speaker 14>Enable the better protection of your account and your phone

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<v Speaker 14>and the ability to text you and get dual factor

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<v Speaker 14>and all the rest. That's probably paramount to them having

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<v Speaker 14>a you know, fifteen second thirty second clip of your voice.

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<v Speaker 14>So in that case, I would actually opt to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 14>you can, you go ahead and record it, so you

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<v Speaker 14>now have a baseline of what I sound like. So

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<v Speaker 14>any anomaly, any differential from there will be flagged as

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<v Speaker 14>a variance, and then they will go into stepped up

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<v Speaker 14>authentication a you know, rich, when what type of phone

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<v Speaker 14>do you have? When was the last time you up

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<v Speaker 14>your service? When was the last time you're actually in

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<v Speaker 14>a Verizon store?

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<v Speaker 11>So to speak? Right, And that allows them to do

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<v Speaker 11>some sip up authentication.

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<v Speaker 14>This one thing the sembercriminals are not necessarily able to

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<v Speaker 14>do is go ahead and replicate fool your voice down.

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<v Speaker 14>We are seeing some of it start in terms of

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<v Speaker 14>proof of concepts, but nothing that's been mass scale applied everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Chris, We're gonna leave it there, Doctor Chris Pearson,

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<v Speaker 1>CEO and founder of black Cloak. You can go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website black cloak dot io. Always so interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>the irony of my call yesterday, I was actually trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do a simswap for my own phones. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for calling Triple eight rich one O one more

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<v Speaker 1>of your calls at eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one is the phone

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<v Speaker 1>number to all. Let's go to Alex in Nuevo California.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that how I say it? Nuvau Neuvaux, California. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta. I can't hear you, Alex. Uh, maybe call

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<v Speaker 1>back Alex. We had a back connection there. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to carry in mission via ho is this our second mission?

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<v Speaker 1>Viejo call today? Carry your on with rich Huh. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having problems with all of our callers right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe it's us. It's not you, it's me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was explaining to my kids. They asked me last night, Uh, Carrie,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you either, so maybe carry there? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh there you are, Okay. I was explaining to my

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<v Speaker 1>kids last night. They said, how do you break up

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<v Speaker 1>with someone? And I said, well, you just say it's

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<v Speaker 1>not you, it's me, And they laughed. What can I

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<v Speaker 1>help you with.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I were on my computer doing Zoom and I've

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<v Speaker 12>been having a problem figuring out what's wrung with the audio.

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<v Speaker 12>At this point, I can hear the person speaking, but

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<v Speaker 12>they cannot hear me. And I've gone through.

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<v Speaker 15>All the Zoom fixes of how to fix it. I

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<v Speaker 15>don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have not contacted Zoom.

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<v Speaker 15>I've been trying to see but there's a fix. I

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<v Speaker 15>have had problems previously with the audio, but it's been fixed,

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<v Speaker 15>and now it's been like three weeks. I've been having

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<v Speaker 15>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you on a Mac or a PC?

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<v Speaker 7>PC?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And can you record audio on other programs?

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<v Speaker 15>Actually I had another program and it was working fine,

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<v Speaker 15>and all of a sudden it went out.

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<v Speaker 8>The same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like it's a computer problem and not a Zoom problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a website called mic tests dot com. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go there and uh test your microphone to see

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<v Speaker 1>if it's working. So I would go there. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not working, then I would I would look into an

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<v Speaker 1>external microphone. Have you tried that?

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<v Speaker 15>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 15>I will.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have a do you have a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of headphones or earbuds or any sort of external microphone.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I've been using those. Those don't work either. That

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<v Speaker 15>At first it was the earbuds, and then the earbuds

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<v Speaker 15>went out, and then I was just using the computer

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<v Speaker 15>and it worked for a while and then that went out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm okay, so so and how how old is this computer?

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<v Speaker 3>Two years old?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, that shouldn't be happening. So and you're running

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<v Speaker 1>Windows on this yes, okay. So have you tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do the mic tests in a different like in a

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<v Speaker 1>different program like this website I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think yeah, I think that would be because

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you need to do is you need

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<v Speaker 1>to narrow down if this is a computer hardware problem

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<v Speaker 1>or if this is a software problem. It sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>me like this is a hardware problem if none of

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<v Speaker 1>these mics are working. Now, when you say you've tried

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<v Speaker 1>different mics you've tried, are they all plug in or

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<v Speaker 1>they bluetooth?

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<v Speaker 5>What type are they plug in?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're plugging him into the same thing USB.

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<v Speaker 15>Or what I'm plugging him into the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Like through does it look like a headphone jack plug

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<v Speaker 1>or does it look like a USB plug.

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<v Speaker 15>A headphone jack plug.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So I would if I were you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to get a inexpensive USB mic and

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<v Speaker 1>I would try that and see what happens, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it sounds like this headphone jack is either

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<v Speaker 1>wonky or it's just not working properly. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a USB mic if you go. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>to best Buy, or you can go to Amazon. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's I'm at them right now. On Amazon, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get one for sixteen bucks. So I would probably

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<v Speaker 1>try a USB mic because I think that that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that'll get you around this other issue of

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<v Speaker 1>this microphone plugin situation. Now here's my other question. Does

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<v Speaker 1>your computer have a built in microphone? Yep?

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<v Speaker 15>And I've been trying and if that was working for

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<v Speaker 15>a while and now it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the part I was trying to say, And you

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<v Speaker 1>do know on Zoom there is an area where you

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<v Speaker 1>can oh, just you can hear my zoom. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know on Zoom there is a way to select your microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've tried that and switched between the different mics. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not working. Interesting, Okay, I would try to

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<v Speaker 1>narrow down if this is hardware software. Sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hardware issue. If you ask me, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you should try an external USB MIC and see if

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<v Speaker 1>that works. But try this this website first, this mic

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<v Speaker 1>test website, and do that and then see if your

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<v Speaker 1>MIC is detected if it's you know, actually going into

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<v Speaker 1>the computer with the audio, and that's the first place

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<v Speaker 1>I would start if it. If it doesn't work there,

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<v Speaker 1>then the microphones that you're having and that's that jack

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer is just not working anymore. What concerns

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<v Speaker 1>me is the fact that the computer microphone also doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's something a little funky there. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any apps that are interfering with this, like any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of audio routing apps?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, uh yeah, so that's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you got to figure out if this

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<v Speaker 1>is hardware or software. But I would say try the

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<v Speaker 1>USB mic see if that works, because USB is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>direct and uh, I think that that's probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to get this to work again if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>working through the standard headphone jack. So uh, keep me posted. Carrie.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the call today. If you have a question,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a call at Triple eight. Rich one on

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<v Speaker 1>one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. There's nothing more frustrating then something not working

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer, like a microphone, and you're just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there trying and trying and trying and plugging and unplugging.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens to the best of us. You are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here talk in technology with you at Triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. You know I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but I'm always testing something new. So this

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<v Speaker 1>week I've been testing the Pixel fold, which is Google's

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<v Speaker 1>foldable smartphone, and I've got to say it's actually pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great it's it feels like a passport, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the form factor is like a passport. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a screen, nice big screen on the outside and

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<v Speaker 1>you open it up to a bigger screen on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very heavy and very hot, so it runs very

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<v Speaker 1>very hot for some reason, and it's probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>the heavier smartphones I've used. But with all that said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very endearing. It is a very very endearing phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and it better be for eighteen hundred dollars. But it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice little device. It takes good pictures.

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<v Speaker 12>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still forming my opinions on it, but and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's for everyone. And I think that Google

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<v Speaker 1>has some work to do with their processor and figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out how to make it run a little bit cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>But the software is just incredible. The software that Google

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<v Speaker 1>does on this pixel is really really incredible. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to rich Demiro here on Rich on Tech. Phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>are open at triple eight Rich one oh one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also I just got this today. It's called fabric

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<v Speaker 1>fab ri c dot so and this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of like everything all at once bookmarking services.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can just put like a link in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put a photo, and then you can search everything,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of like a smart search. And then

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<v Speaker 1>later on they're gonna have connections so you can search

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<v Speaker 1>all of your stuff, like Google Drive will be included,

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<v Speaker 1>your bookmarks, your notion, your dropbox, your screenshots, your email,

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<v Speaker 1>your text messages, so your history on Chrome. So they've got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all these connections. They're going to add soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically be like a search engine for all of

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<v Speaker 1>your own stuff that you remember. That's called fabric fabric

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<v Speaker 1>dot so and I've been testing that. What else I've

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<v Speaker 1>been testing so many little things. Oh, a new car

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<v Speaker 1>this week, the Nissan Aria. It's an ev We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to our I'm gonna talk to my guests about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, Emily dry Belbis, electric vehicle reporter for PC

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<v Speaker 1>mag will be joining us this hour. She can talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk. I've got a little bone to pick

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<v Speaker 1>with evs because charging a non Tesla is not as

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<v Speaker 1>easy as I thought, and we're gonna talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>with her as well. Let's see. AT and T has

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<v Speaker 1>a new thing called Internet Air. This is a home

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi that is delivered over a wireless network. You

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<v Speaker 1>can install this in your house in less than fifteen minutes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you may say, Rich, I already know that T Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>has this and Verizon has this. Yes, but now AT

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<v Speaker 1>and T has it. And it's a good thing that

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<v Speaker 1>these companies all have this because it gives some competition

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<v Speaker 1>to the cable companies that service your house. Traditionally, homes

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<v Speaker 1>have like one, maybe two options for Internet. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time's either your phone company or your cable company,

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<v Speaker 1>or both. If you're lucky, now you have a third option.

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<v Speaker 1>But in many cases it's also a phone company because

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<v Speaker 1>it's AT and T, Verizon or T Mobile. So what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing is they're using these strong five G networks

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to supply internet to your house. So

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<v Speaker 1>you get this box, it's called the Internet Air. You

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<v Speaker 1>scan the QR code and then you set up the

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<v Speaker 1>box near your your strongest area of the house with

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<v Speaker 1>your five G signal. They have a little app that

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<v Speaker 1>tells you how to find that, and then you turn

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<v Speaker 1>on the box and it takes the five G wireless

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<v Speaker 1>signal and it broadcasts it out as Wi Fi. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very similar to having the Internet come through a

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<v Speaker 1>cable to your house, but it's just delivered wirelessly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's confusing, you say, Rich, why not just

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<v Speaker 1>use the five G signal. Well, it's easier to have

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<v Speaker 1>your devices connecting to a Wi Fi signal than a

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<v Speaker 1>five G signal because not all of them could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T Internet Air is available in parts of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Pennsylvania, Las Vegas, Phoenix, specifically Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>let's see Chicago, Detroit, Michigan, New Haven, Minneapolis, Portland, Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City, Seattle, and Tampa, Florida. So if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>one of those places, this is fifty five dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no overage fees, there's no price increase at

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months, let's see, no annual contract. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>qualify for this Affordable Connectivity Program, that's the government program

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<v Speaker 1>that'll give you thirty dollars off a month. Basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on Snap or some sort of government assistance, you

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<v Speaker 1>can qualify for that ACP program that'll give you thirty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars off the price of this. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a great thing. I have not tested it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T is supposedly going to send me one

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<v Speaker 1>to test. We'll see, but I have tested the one

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<v Speaker 1>from Verizon and it works as advertised. And the downside

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<v Speaker 1>is really just the speed of the service. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>limited by the speed of what the five G signal

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<v Speaker 1>that comes into your house offers. So what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do if this is available at your house, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>T Mobile, Verizon, or AT and T, check the speed

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone using either fast dot com or an

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<v Speaker 1>app called Medior met Eo r Medior Speed app that

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<v Speaker 1>will that will test the speed of your Internet connection.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have AT and T, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>test the signal on your phone. That'll give you an

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<v Speaker 1>indication of how fast this might be. If you have Verizon,

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<v Speaker 1>test the signal on your phone. If you have T Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>test the signal on your phone. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>switch to one of these other companies and get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your Internet from AT and T. When you have a

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<v Speaker 1>friend over, I know it's a nerdy thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but say, hey, can I test the speed on your

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<v Speaker 1>phone to see what it's like? Because I'm curious about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Paul Paul's in Long Beach.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fantastic.

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<v Speaker 10>I love your show and your Katla segments are very informative.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That is my goal. That is my one

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<v Speaker 1>goal is to uh to help people. So what can

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<v Speaker 1>I help you with?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you're just talking about internet and I have the

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<v Speaker 10>traditional cable model along with you know, TV at home,

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<v Speaker 10>and the price just keeps going up and I'm looking to,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, look at an alternative, but just want to

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<v Speaker 10>how really good they are. I've had people try the

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<v Speaker 10>wireless ones and they weren't impressed with it, But maybe

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<v Speaker 10>that's just based on their signal in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think it comes down to the

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<v Speaker 1>signal that you get and what you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me personally, I couldn't use one of these

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<v Speaker 1>things because I'm uploading and downloading video all day long

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<v Speaker 1>with my job, you know, like my KTLA segments were

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<v Speaker 1>always exchanging stuff on Dropbox that are like five ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty gigabyte files which take a while to upload. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a thousand speed on my Internet which is

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<v Speaker 1>up and down, so it's extremely fast. But does anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else need that? No, most people, unless you're a video editor,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not need that sort of speed up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think for many people the wireless does work

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<v Speaker 1>if you are just using you know, Netflix, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just surfing the web and you're doing your email and

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing your zooms, as long as you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good signal. If you don't have a good signal, like

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<v Speaker 1>if your cell phone is spotty in your house, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be spotty. Now it's going to probably

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<v Speaker 1>pull down a little bit of a better signal just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a box that's dedicated with a better antenna

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<v Speaker 1>than your phone, you know, your phone. Even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pulling in a good signal, it is regulated by

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<v Speaker 1>how much you know radio frequency. It wants to emit

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<v Speaker 1>and also capture, so it's not going to be the strongest.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want this thing that's like, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>strong as a dedicated box in your pocket because it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it may not be safe. So what what

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<v Speaker 1>are you looking to change your Internet? Or are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking to change your cable TV? Which are all the above?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, maybe all above. I'm just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 10>the best way to consume that kind of stuff now,

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<v Speaker 10>and just based upon what we watch, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>we do stream some We use Disney Plus and Paramount

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<v Speaker 10>Plus and we have Amazon Prime, but we do watch

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<v Speaker 10>network TVs. So I guess there's ways to get around that.

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<v Speaker 10>But I guess maybe looking at what some coming down

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<v Speaker 10>the future too, is perhaps satellite what yeah, in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, starlink, but I mean starlink at this point is

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<v Speaker 1>really for people who are in a more rural area

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<v Speaker 1>or in a place that's not serviced. You're in Long Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>so I assume what you have a cable company and

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<v Speaker 1>any do you have more than one provider to your home.

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<v Speaker 10>No, yeah, they all.

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<v Speaker 8>About the same.

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<v Speaker 10>I have both Spectrum in Frontier available.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you have two available, which is good, so

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<v Speaker 1>that means you can play them off each other. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is these cable companies know they've got us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know there's not many options. They're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>as many deals as they used to do. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to options, look, if you want like a

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<v Speaker 1>cable alternative, I think a really good option is is YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>TV is probably the most popular. It's got unlimited V

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<v Speaker 1>got all the channels, including the local channels. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's too expensive unless you are consuming a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of TV and then you by the way, also sports

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<v Speaker 1>is the trickiest thing about getting you know, these streaming services,

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<v Speaker 1>because you either have to have the cable or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you like the Clippers, they have their own service.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of different factors when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to what you watch. I think is the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>issue when it comes to switching to just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a streaming service. Now, for me personally, I switched to

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<v Speaker 1>streaming about I'd say maybe four or five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a big decision and my wife was

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<v Speaker 1>very much against it because it's very complicated and she saw,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like me Chrome casting stuff to the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and I decided none of that. But now it's pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Netflix, you've got Hulu, you've got Prime Video.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, you've got Paramount, so you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of the movies and things and content. It

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<v Speaker 1>just really comes down to the traditional network television that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch those shows, and also the cable

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<v Speaker 1>shows and also sports. So I think when you decide

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<v Speaker 1>to make that jump, you have to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch and do your research and see

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get those on streaming. For instance, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big sports fan, a lot of the sports

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<v Speaker 1>in many cities are not on a dedicated streaming service.

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<v Speaker 1>Some cities have it, some cities don't, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>really comes into play whether you want to subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>like an NBA League Pass or something like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>even with that, you may not get the local games.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are many, many considerations when it comes to streaming.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, both for Internet and when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>your television service. At the end, of the day. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching a ton of stuff and you like a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of shows on the traditional cable networks, it may

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<v Speaker 1>just be cheaper to go ahead and do a bundle.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise, if you want to piecemeal it together and

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe one thing here, one thing there, it can be cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you cancel that cable service, many times your

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<v Speaker 1>internet price will go up. So that's when these other

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<v Speaker 1>alternatives like the the air, you know, the wireless internet

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<v Speaker 1>services may work because T Mobile, Verizon, AT and T

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<v Speaker 1>they're really trying to push these new ways of getting Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're giving you a deal right now, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit cheaper, but the signal may not be

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<v Speaker 1>as strong or may not be as fast. Triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one is the phone number. This

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<v Speaker 1>is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here. Yeah, it's my birthday week. I call

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<v Speaker 1>it birthday week because we've been celebrating for a while now,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell now, I'm just kidding. Counting Crows one

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<v Speaker 1>of my all time favorite bands. They're actually playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the LA area like right now, and anyway, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get tickets, so wampwomp for made. We have a wamp

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<v Speaker 1>womp sound. Let's go to Andrea in h Are you

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea in LA or Louisiana a Los Angeles? Okay? Says

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<v Speaker 1>la here. When I lived in Louisiana and I say la,

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<v Speaker 1>it meant like when I see the letters, it meant

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<v Speaker 1>something different. But you know, anyway, what can I help

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<v Speaker 1>you with? Welcome to the show?

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<v Speaker 16>Thank you. I have an iPhone and I believe I

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<v Speaker 16>need to replace the battery and when I called Apple,

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<v Speaker 16>they said that I need to back up everything on

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<v Speaker 16>the iCloud. So what are my options besides the iCloud.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, you don't like the cloud or what I've.

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<v Speaker 16>Never had it. I just don't want to get involved

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<v Speaker 16>with it. And then if I want to get off

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<v Speaker 16>the cloud, how would I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's impossible. Once you're on. It's like the Hotel California.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check in, but you can't check out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really tough, and of course they want you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud is great because it's all backed up and

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<v Speaker 1>it's simple and it's all wireless, but it does have

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<v Speaker 1>its downsides. It gets cluttered, you can't find stuff. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where you stand. You don't know if things

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<v Speaker 1>are actually backed up, so you kind of have to

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<v Speaker 1>stay on top of those things. You are sending in

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<v Speaker 1>your phone for service.

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<v Speaker 16>Is that what I'm bringing it?

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<v Speaker 1>You're bringing it and they said basically that it could

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<v Speaker 1>come back wiped clean.

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<v Speaker 16>Right, Well, I thought I would wait there, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not uh oh at the Apple store. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it depends. You may. But here's the deal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, when you bring in any device to

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<v Speaker 1>get fixed, you always want to have a backup of

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<v Speaker 1>it because there is a chance that they will have

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<v Speaker 1>to either wipe it clean or they may replace the

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<v Speaker 1>drive on it. You just don't know, so you always

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a backup. What do you have on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone that you need to back up?

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<v Speaker 16>Photos?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, just photos?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I don't know what would be wiped clean, Like

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<v Speaker 16>would my email stay there?

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<v Speaker 1>Emails are generally linked to your email account, so those

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<v Speaker 1>would probably come back if you logged back in. For

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<v Speaker 1>most people, I would say the main thing on your

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<v Speaker 1>phone would be your photos. Your contacts are generally in

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud already through your service provider, whether it's Gmail

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<v Speaker 1>or Yahoo or whoever you're using a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>your contacts are linked to them. So if it's just photos,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of things you could do. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a computer?

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<v Speaker 16>I haven't used it in years?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so that may not be the best

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<v Speaker 1>solution then, So I think without a computer that if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to plug this into a computer, the

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<v Speaker 1>way you could back up photos is with a USB drive.

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<v Speaker 1>How long do you have to get this figured out?

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<v Speaker 16>Hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Hours? Oh? Okay, but I can change that, okay. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're I think the cloud might be the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>way to do this. Now, you don't have to use

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<v Speaker 1>iCloud per se. Are you an Amazon Prime member by

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<v Speaker 1>any chance?

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<v Speaker 16>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean there's many ways to back up photos

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<v Speaker 1>that don't use Do you have Google?

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<v Speaker 16>Do I have Google?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Do you use like Gmail at all?

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<v Speaker 16>I have something that I've never used. Well, I haven't

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<v Speaker 16>used it in like years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think without going through the cloud, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to either plug something into this phone, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a USB drive. So I like one from sand Disk.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also one from pmy. What's did you say you

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<v Speaker 1>have one of those? What a USB drive?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, there's one in the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, but it may not plug into the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of your phone because it's your bottom of your phone

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<v Speaker 1>is lightning and the computer is probably USB. So unless

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<v Speaker 1>you had a specific lightning USB drive, it would not

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<v Speaker 1>work with your phone. So I think the easiest way,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two things you could do. I think the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>way is to plug this into your computer and use

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<v Speaker 1>iTunes to just make a complete backup of this device.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the easiest way to do it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, there's an you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to use iTunes and you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to use your computer. The other way is really a

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<v Speaker 1>flash drive, and you can plug the flash drive into

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the phone. But you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>get one of those. So if you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>like best Buy and look for either the sand Disc,

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<v Speaker 1>you need what's called a lightning USB drive, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>the brand from sand Disc is called I expand the

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<v Speaker 1>letter I expand, and then pn Y has one as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and pn Y is again but it's brand new, so

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<v Speaker 1>they may not have in the stores just yet. But

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<v Speaker 1>again you need what's called a lightning to a lightning

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<v Speaker 1>flash drive. So if you go into the store and

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<v Speaker 1>ask for that, you can plug that into the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of your phone and then use the software to download

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<v Speaker 1>the photos onto that flash drive. That's probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. If you don't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a backup using Google Photos would work well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a website called i drive which is really

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<v Speaker 1>fast and easy. I might just use that. You can

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<v Speaker 1>download the app for i drive and download your photos

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<v Speaker 1>to there and they'll be backed up. It's in the cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't want the cloud, but those are the two

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<v Speaker 1>best ways to do it. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology with you at triple eight Rich one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one on the line. Emily dry Beelbis, electric

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle reporter for PC mag Emily, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me today.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>So you cover all sorts of electric cars. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>met at a show out here called what was it

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<v Speaker 1>electrify something, Yeah, Electrify Expo, which was really cool. They

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<v Speaker 1>had like almost every sort of car on display. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the in the market for like an

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<v Speaker 1>electric car. It was like, not just that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like bikes and scooters and every kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 17>So yeah, I think we met when I was going

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<v Speaker 17>around the track on the electric motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the one that I wouldn't go on because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to like sign a wave and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>too much effort. So I was like, never mind, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, So, let's talk about this whole situation

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<v Speaker 1>with electric cars. Where do you see kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>state of the union with EV's, because I'm always talking

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<v Speaker 1>about them on the show. I live in California, which

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<v Speaker 1>has a ton of them. Where do you think we're at?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so there are some numbers recently on the state

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<v Speaker 13>of the union with the EV's.

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<v Speaker 17>In the past couple of years, adoption rate has been

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<v Speaker 17>doubling and kind of going up really quickly, almost exponentially,

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<v Speaker 17>And they look at it in terms of new car sales.

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<v Speaker 17>So maybe five years ago it was one two three

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<v Speaker 17>percent of new cars for EV's and this year it

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<v Speaker 17>hit seven percent, which is quite a jump. But I

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<v Speaker 17>will say it kind of stagnated and the seven percent

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<v Speaker 17>number we hit in January and it was still seven

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<v Speaker 17>percent later in the year.

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<v Speaker 13>More recently, so we are.

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<v Speaker 17>A little bit at people are wondering, are the early

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<v Speaker 17>adopters through and it's next step to be mass production,

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<v Speaker 17>mass market.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what all the.

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<v Speaker 17>Car companies I talk to are talking about. I talked

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<v Speaker 17>with Ford, Kia, Nissan, GM, all of them are kind

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<v Speaker 17>of talking about, all right, it's ready to figure out

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<v Speaker 17>what evs need to be applicable and useful and enjoyable

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<v Speaker 17>for the rest of the population that's not those early adopters.

1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:19.200
<v Speaker 13>So I would say that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think one of the big concerns, well, there's

1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>probably two concerns. Number one is the technology, like is

1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it ready? Am I getting a car that's going to

1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>be you know, useful in five ten years? And then

1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:34.599
<v Speaker 1>also the charging situation. Now, I feel like the charging

1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>situation is twofold. If you are commuting to and from

1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:40.439
<v Speaker 1>work and you have a charger at home or at work,

1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be fine with pretty much any car

1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:44.599
<v Speaker 1>because you can charge. You know, if you're just commuting,

1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not unless you're commuting like three hundred miles a day,

1:33:47.240 --> 1:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be fine. Now, when it comes to

1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>road trips, that is a different world. Entirely. And I

1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>do feel like, and I think that this was reinforced

1:33:55.640 --> 1:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>this week with my test drives, that Tesla is really

1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the only game when it to road trips at this point.

1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:03.439
<v Speaker 1>And you can debate me on this, but I feel

1:34:03.479 --> 1:34:06.639
<v Speaker 1>like it's really tricky to go on a road trip

1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in a non Tesla because of the charging situation. What

1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>do you think of that?

1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:13.839
<v Speaker 13>I would agree, Yeah, of course you can do it.

1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:17.920
<v Speaker 17>It's just the the infuriation of going to a charging

1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:20.200
<v Speaker 17>station and not working for you, and then doing that

1:34:20.280 --> 1:34:23.120
<v Speaker 17>over and over again is just going to bring you

1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:25.360
<v Speaker 17>down on the road trip. And of course you're traveling,

1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:27.400
<v Speaker 17>you have a million other logistics. The last thing you

1:34:27.400 --> 1:34:29.360
<v Speaker 17>want to think about is how to power the actual car.

1:34:29.479 --> 1:34:31.000
<v Speaker 17>You just want to get it done and keep moving,

1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:33.479
<v Speaker 17>and I will say Tesla is probably our.

1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:34.000
<v Speaker 11>Best bet for that.

1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So I've been testing this Nissan Aria, which is a

1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>great car. I love it. It's really really nice. It's

1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:41.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Nissan Rogue. It's a crossover suv

1:34:42.200 --> 1:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and it gets three hundred miles, which I think is

1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:47.519
<v Speaker 1>the sweet spot for mile edge at this point. I'm

1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:49.519
<v Speaker 1>sure you know five hundred and six hundred be nice,

1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>but three hundred. Really, I've had no range anxiety. But

1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>when I've gone to charge this car, I'm not kidding,

1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I've been I went yesterday to three different charging stations.

1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>The first one I couldn't get to work. The second

1:35:03.840 --> 1:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and the two fast chargers were used, and then the

1:35:06.080 --> 1:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>second one the charger was broken. It was like out

1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:11.559
<v Speaker 1>of service, and the other chargers were in use. And

1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>then the third time, both chargers were in use. And

1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're not doing supercharging, these chargers sometimes take a

1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:22.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer. And so I realized the frustration of like,

1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>here I am talking about these electric cars and how

1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>great they are. But if you're getting one of these

1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>cars and you're spending a lot of money on it,

1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden you're not you know,

1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not charging at home or you think you can

1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>do this, it could be really, really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I had the same experience, So it was funny

1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:40.120
<v Speaker 17>you said that. So yesterday I have an aud EQ

1:35:40.200 --> 1:35:41.439
<v Speaker 17>eight E trond right.

1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:42.759
<v Speaker 13>Now, beautiful car.

1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:45.880
<v Speaker 17>I think it's the top trim, so I think it's

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<v Speaker 17>eighty or eighty five thousand dollars. It comes with two

1:35:48.960 --> 1:35:51.479
<v Speaker 17>years free charging with electric five America, which is an

1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:54.000
<v Speaker 17>awesome perk. Anyone who wants to buy and ev should

1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:56.240
<v Speaker 17>look at these types of promotions. You don't have to

1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:58.479
<v Speaker 17>buy an eighty five thousand dollars car to get that.

1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:02.200
<v Speaker 17>So that's and there's a target near my apartment that

1:36:02.280 --> 1:36:05.360
<v Speaker 17>has eleven Electric America stations. Okay, cool, I'm gonna go charge.

1:36:05.400 --> 1:36:08.320
<v Speaker 17>We're gonna go get some groceries, no big deal. And

1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:10.680
<v Speaker 17>I get there in all the stations, all eleven are

1:36:10.760 --> 1:36:15.160
<v Speaker 17>just out to get for maintenance and improvements. And the

1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:17.760
<v Speaker 17>issue there is, you know, I navigated there on Google Maps,

1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:20.120
<v Speaker 17>and Google doesn't know that they're that they're out. So

1:36:20.160 --> 1:36:22.599
<v Speaker 17>we have kind of an app component to it as well,

1:36:22.680 --> 1:36:25.479
<v Speaker 17>and you know, the vehicle navigation needs to know that

1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:28.160
<v Speaker 17>Google if you use that other apps like plug share,

1:36:28.600 --> 1:36:30.519
<v Speaker 17>So there's a lot of factors that go into what

1:36:30.680 --> 1:36:34.000
<v Speaker 17>charger you choose and kind of how it works with

1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.320
<v Speaker 17>your car, the port, and then why you go there,

1:36:36.320 --> 1:36:38.519
<v Speaker 17>what you want to do when you're charging. So that

1:36:38.600 --> 1:36:41.200
<v Speaker 17>one didn't work on a good day, that would have

1:36:41.200 --> 1:36:43.679
<v Speaker 17>been a fantastic option for me. And then I also

1:36:43.760 --> 1:36:46.720
<v Speaker 17>went to two others and the other one was in

1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:49.040
<v Speaker 17>a parking garage, and I had to get a ticket

1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:49.639
<v Speaker 17>and everything.

1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:51.880
<v Speaker 13>I was desperate at this point. It was my third

1:36:51.920 --> 1:36:54.320
<v Speaker 13>one I had to pay to get in a garage.

1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.960
<v Speaker 17>So I actually just turned around and went back home

1:36:57.120 --> 1:36:59.640
<v Speaker 17>with less at charge than I even had when I

1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:00.679
<v Speaker 17>set out to charge.

1:37:00.760 --> 1:37:02.519
<v Speaker 13>So demoralizing for sure.

1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>That is so frustrating. Now it's getting better. I did

1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>see because I was using I don't know which Google

1:37:06.720 --> 1:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Maps you were using. I was using it on Android

1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>on this car that I was testing, and it did

1:37:11.120 --> 1:37:15.479
<v Speaker 1>seem to have some like live data about the charging station,

1:37:15.760 --> 1:37:18.240
<v Speaker 1>so it seemed like it was not for all of them,

1:37:18.240 --> 1:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>but it did say like zero of two or something,

1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:23.559
<v Speaker 1>so it seemed to be getting some sort of live data.

1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>The other thing that I noticed is that, and this

1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:29.439
<v Speaker 1>really really bugs me, Please car manufacturers, there should not

1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be an icon for gas stations, like on the main

1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:35.519
<v Speaker 1>screen on your built in navigation software. And I get it.

1:37:35.600 --> 1:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>My wife is debating me. She's like, well, maybe you

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>want to find a restroom or like a soda. I'm like,

1:37:39.880 --> 1:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just like bad form, like show

1:37:42.000 --> 1:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>me ev stations, Like I don't know anyway, So do

1:37:45.479 --> 1:37:47.559
<v Speaker 1>we feel like the battery tech is getting better because

1:37:47.560 --> 1:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>people always you know, we've seen the cars, they've been

1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>around for a while. Is battery technology getting better, Yes,

1:37:55.040 --> 1:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it is.

1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:57.600
<v Speaker 13>And the interesting thing about range is that it's not

1:37:58.040 --> 1:37:59.080
<v Speaker 13>all about the battery.

1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:01.240
<v Speaker 17>So what these cars our companies are doing is they're

1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:05.000
<v Speaker 17>learning how to connect the motor and the software.

1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.160
<v Speaker 13>To the battery. So there's a lot of different areas

1:38:07.200 --> 1:38:08.440
<v Speaker 13>you can see range improvements.

1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:09.280
<v Speaker 11>It could just be a.

1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:11.559
<v Speaker 13>Software update in your cargets ten more miles.

1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:15.080
<v Speaker 17>It could be something that they figure out in the

1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:17.960
<v Speaker 17>production line that will make the motor connect to the

1:38:18.000 --> 1:38:19.040
<v Speaker 17>battery in a different.

1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:20.720
<v Speaker 13>Way, and okay, you get twenty more miles.

1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:22.920
<v Speaker 17>But of course the biggest jumps are going to be

1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:24.960
<v Speaker 17>from the battery technology.

1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:26.240
<v Speaker 13>And what I'm.

1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:28.759
<v Speaker 17>Seeing really is that China is far, far, far ahead

1:38:28.800 --> 1:38:30.920
<v Speaker 17>of the US. And this can be hard to wrap

1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:33.639
<v Speaker 17>our minds around for the average American in some ways.

1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:36.800
<v Speaker 17>But I write about what they're doing with battery technology,

1:38:36.840 --> 1:38:39.240
<v Speaker 17>and it's just far and away what we have going

1:38:39.240 --> 1:38:42.680
<v Speaker 17>on here. I don't hear announcements from US automakers like

1:38:42.720 --> 1:38:43.400
<v Speaker 17>I do from.

1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:44.679
<v Speaker 13>Battery makers in China.

1:38:44.840 --> 1:38:47.160
<v Speaker 17>So they are cooking up batteries that are going to

1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:49.799
<v Speaker 17>go in EBS there that can go six hundred miles

1:38:49.840 --> 1:38:54.479
<v Speaker 17>on charge. I just heard another announcement from CAATL they

1:38:54.520 --> 1:38:56.960
<v Speaker 17>made a battery that can charge I think.

1:38:56.800 --> 1:38:58.599
<v Speaker 13>It was two hundred and fifty miles and ten minutes.

1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:02.120
<v Speaker 17>So that's of the cars on the road have two

1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:03.160
<v Speaker 17>hundred and fifty miles range.

1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:04.839
<v Speaker 13>You're saying you can charge it in ten minutes.

1:39:05.600 --> 1:39:08.799
<v Speaker 17>And these are still future technologies, but they are listing

1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:11.840
<v Speaker 17>models that will have these new batteries, and that is

1:39:11.880 --> 1:39:14.360
<v Speaker 17>far ahead of what we're hearing in the US. And

1:39:14.400 --> 1:39:18.040
<v Speaker 17>then COATL I just mentioned they've partnered with four to

1:39:18.120 --> 1:39:21.920
<v Speaker 17>build a plant in Michigan using their battery technologies. So

1:39:22.640 --> 1:39:27.080
<v Speaker 17>we're kind of seeing some overseas innovation with batteries. Nissan,

1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:31.240
<v Speaker 17>not Nissan, actually Toyota and Honda have had breakthroughs, so

1:39:31.960 --> 1:39:36.280
<v Speaker 17>I mean Chinese battery makers and then Toyota, Honda. That's

1:39:36.320 --> 1:39:38.679
<v Speaker 17>where I'm hearing the big battery announcements, and it seems

1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:41.439
<v Speaker 17>like at least in the short term, US automakers will

1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:44.519
<v Speaker 17>be partnering with them for those big advancements. And then

1:39:44.880 --> 1:39:49.759
<v Speaker 17>Biden has allocated billions of dollars to stimulate US battery production.

1:39:49.920 --> 1:39:52.799
<v Speaker 17>Because we are so far behind, and we get ninety

1:39:52.840 --> 1:39:55.840
<v Speaker 17>five ninety seven percent of our batteries are from overseas,

1:39:56.000 --> 1:39:58.320
<v Speaker 17>so we have brilliant engineers in the US. We do

1:39:58.400 --> 1:40:01.880
<v Speaker 17>have startups working on fantastic technology. We are just a

1:40:01.880 --> 1:40:05.759
<v Speaker 17>little bit far behind, and we will be partnering probably

1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:08.680
<v Speaker 17>with overseas companies who are doing an amazing job with

1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.680
<v Speaker 17>the technology. So we could benefit from that, and I

1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:15.200
<v Speaker 17>think probably in the next maybe five.

1:40:15.040 --> 1:40:17.519
<v Speaker 13>Years, we could start to see some of that. Certainly

1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:18.439
<v Speaker 13>in ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got about a minute. What You've seen a lot

1:40:21.240 --> 1:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>of cars, you test drive a lot of stuff. What

1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>are you excited about right now? What's kind of like

1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>exciting in the EV space.

1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:30.120
<v Speaker 17>I'm always looking for evs that are getting cheaper with

1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:32.800
<v Speaker 17>better battery performance. So in PC mag I maintain a

1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:35.679
<v Speaker 17>list of eb's under forty thousand dollars. I love adding

1:40:35.720 --> 1:40:37.960
<v Speaker 17>new cars to that list. I think that is the

1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:41.160
<v Speaker 17>most exciting. It's great to have a huge EV that

1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:44.120
<v Speaker 17>costs two hundred thousand dollars. We've seen that before. What

1:40:44.200 --> 1:40:46.439
<v Speaker 17>I get excited about is a new car like the

1:40:46.560 --> 1:40:49.639
<v Speaker 17>Volvo Ex thirty, which is thirty five k and has

1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.439
<v Speaker 17>great range. So any car under forty k I am

1:40:52.479 --> 1:40:54.080
<v Speaker 17>all in on it and.

1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:54.880
<v Speaker 13>That's what gets me going.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Emily dry Belbis, electric vehicle reporter for PC mag,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks rich all right, I'm gonna put a link to

1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the forty evs under forty thousand dollars on the PCMAC website.

1:41:08.360 --> 1:41:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll put that online at richontech dot tv. Coming up,

1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:13.720
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna close out the show, and of course it's

1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:17.400
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1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you've emailed me throughout the week. I'll be reading it.

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<v Speaker 1>So get through a couple of news items before we

1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>get to the feedback. As promised, Samsung has a special

1:42:05.360 --> 1:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>TV for Disney fans celebrating Disney's one hundredth anniversary with

1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a special edition of the Frame. The Frame is a

1:42:14.120 --> 1:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>TV that displays artwork when it's not in use, and

1:42:18.280 --> 1:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>it looks like real artwork. I mean, this thing, if

1:42:20.320 --> 1:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you've seen it in person, is very, very impressive. It's

1:42:23.160 --> 1:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>available in sixty five, fifty sorry, fifty five, sixty five

1:42:27.479 --> 1:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and seventy five.

1:42:28.400 --> 1:42:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Ah, there we go.

1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's Disney's Wait is it Disney's birthday? I guess

1:42:33.720 --> 1:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's for me. Oh that's for me, thank you. Yes,

1:42:39.280 --> 1:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it is my birthday week. I'm running out of here

1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to go have a birthday dinner. Actually, let's see Disney's

1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one hundredth anniversary. The frame has it gets one hundred

1:42:50.280 --> 1:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>special pieces of artwork from the Disney collection, a Mickey

1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Mouse inspired remote, and do I have a price on

1:42:56.720 --> 1:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>this thing? I don't have the price anyway. Limited edition

1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>while so applies last, Samsung dot Com, slash US, slash Disney,

1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and Best Buy Atari bringing back the twenty six hundred

1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>with a recreation The twenty six hundred plus a recreation

1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of the console that first appeared in nineteen eighty will

1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be launching worldwide on November seventeenth for one hundred and

1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars. It'll include ten games. It looks just like

1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the original. It actually uses the same cartridge slot. And

1:43:26.240 --> 1:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the coolest part. I think that the original

1:43:29.280 --> 1:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>cartridges will plug into this new machine. So if you

1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have some old Atari twenty six hundred or seventy eight

1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred cartridges, they will work with this machine, which is

1:43:38.840 --> 1:43:42.519
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Then the cartridge it comes with has ten

1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:47.679
<v Speaker 1>games built in, including Adventure, Combat, Dodgeum, Haunted House, Mays, Craze,

1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Missile Command, Real Sports, Volleyball, Surround Video, Pinball, and Yars Revenge.

1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Does not include Pong. Was that not on the original?

1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. It also has some modern necessity

1:44:00.200 --> 1:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like an HDMI output and USB, plus a recreation of

1:44:04.840 --> 1:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the original c X forty plus joystick. And finally I

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<v Speaker 1>tested this out Samsung. Remember a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>I did the Apple AI Voice clone. Well, now Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>has it. So if you have a Samsung Galaxy and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got the latest software, you can train Bixby on

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<v Speaker 1>your voice and then you can have the voice assistant

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<v Speaker 1>talk in your voice.

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<v Speaker 15>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you'd want your phone talking back

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<v Speaker 1>to you and your voice, but you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So how to do it? Open the bix b app.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's probably the first time you've ever opened

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<v Speaker 1>that app in your life. Go to settings, Language and

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<v Speaker 1>voice style, and then create custom voice. You only have

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<v Speaker 1>to record like you saying ten things, and it takes

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<v Speaker 1>about five minutes to create your voice. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>online on my Instagram at rich on Tech. It does

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<v Speaker 1>not sound like me at all, So it didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>work that well, but you know, it's a start, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of fun. I mean, your results may vary.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe my voice is just not as clonable. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see. Can I get to a couple things people said?

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<v Speaker 1>Jet says, Verizon's offering me seven hundred dollars for my

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone thirteen? Should I trade it in or wait until

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<v Speaker 1>the new iPhones come out? Wait, don't buy iPhones right now,

1:45:14.600 --> 1:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>just wait every either deals will get better, the price

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<v Speaker 1>will come down. Just Senda says. Cox has two different

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<v Speaker 1>affordable Connectivity programs. One is ACP, which can be applied

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<v Speaker 1>to any Cox Internet. Then there are several different level programs.

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<v Speaker 1>COX will assist with under Connect Assist and Connect to Compete.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the benefits includes one hundred dollars off a laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>Cox recently increased the broadband speed with no additional charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Their customers just send to I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>work for Cox or what, but thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>public service announcement, so ask for those discounts. David says,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the best site for NFL on TV? Ooh, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, it's YouTube TV. They got the exclusive rights

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday tickets, so that's probably the best place at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. Richie said as evs. Electrify America has its

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<v Speaker 1>own app which shows if the charger is in use

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<v Speaker 1>or not, making it easier to choose where to go. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is true, but I've also found like last night

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<v Speaker 1>we went to the Electrify America stations, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a it reminded me of like a fifties like what

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<v Speaker 1>are those places called, like where they the people on

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<v Speaker 1>skates roller skates like a whatever? That's you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what bobo, what are those called?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like remember like the fifties, like the

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<v Speaker 1>place where you go outside and there's a car hop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. It reminded me of a car hop. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people there. They're all kind of sitting out

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<v Speaker 1>of their cars waiting to like charge and this and that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>me either. And I can't even remember what I call

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<v Speaker 1>a car hop. Yeah. So okay, all right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to some Let's see do I have How long do

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<v Speaker 1>I have here? Four minutes? Okay, so I've got let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Barry asks, I want to buy a watch for someone

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<v Speaker 1>with dementia in case they wander. They are elderly. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a smart watch or device I can keep track

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<v Speaker 1>of it? She does not have a phone. I would

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<v Speaker 1>look into something called the geobit jiob t. This is

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<v Speaker 1>real time location tracking. It's kind of like an air tag,

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<v Speaker 1>but with a built in cellular signal. So gobit jiobit

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<v Speaker 1>I think will be your best bet there. Roger asks,

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<v Speaker 1>you always have great news. Thank you. I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get rid of ads on my Android

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<v Speaker 1>phone without cost. Is there a way? Ooh, great question,

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<v Speaker 1>And I do have a good way, easiest way I

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<v Speaker 1>know of. This is built into every Android phone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>super simple. All you have to do is go to settings,

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<v Speaker 1>Network and Internet Private DNS, private DNS provider host name,

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<v Speaker 1>and you type in DNS dot adguard dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>that will block all the ads on your phone without

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<v Speaker 1>installing any programs. It just has to run your URLs

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<v Speaker 1>through ad Guard. So obviously do your research and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out if that's something you want to do, because it

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<v Speaker 1>will send all of the websites that you go to

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<v Speaker 1>to this website. But that's really easy. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes yea we go? Was that really two minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see?

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<v Speaker 9>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Christina says, hey, Rich, number one fan here. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with the fellow that stated your explanations were too

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for the average person to understand. Your show is fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Love how you communicate live via so many modalities, Christina,

1:48:17.800 --> 1:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Neil says Rich, another great show. The Solar

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<v Speaker 1>Charger sounds fantastic. I'm shocked you've never used a UPS.

1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you only have laptops, but in my home, even

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<v Speaker 1>a one second glitch of power will reboot all of

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<v Speaker 1>our servers and desktops. Even my TVs have a UPS.

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly says your show is amazing. My family and I

1:48:36.840 --> 1:48:39.519
<v Speaker 1>have listened since your first show where you appreciate your

1:48:39.600 --> 1:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>informative and entertaining program. You truly have content for every listener.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell my friends about Rich on Tech and I

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<v Speaker 1>encourage them to listen. Thank you. And Mark says, hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to you yesterday and was ready for you to

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<v Speaker 1>make a joke when you aired voicemails the woman asked

1:48:54.560 --> 1:48:56.720
<v Speaker 1>for a good computer cleaner, and I was waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say, Windex. You do have a good sense

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<v Speaker 1>of humor and have done it a yeoman's job of

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<v Speaker 1>replacing Leo Yeomen. I've never heard that word, have you, Yeoman.

1:49:06.600 --> 1:49:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that's like a good job, I would assume

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<v Speaker 1>since it's a nice email. Thank you, Mark. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make that joke, but I try to be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see. Oh and finally, oh gosh. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to end on a bad note. Ginger and your

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<v Speaker 1>Blinda says, what happened to your Sunday show? I'm so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen on Saturday and I've looked for you on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Love your show. I don't do much TV. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a Sunday show since I started. This is only

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<v Speaker 1>on it depends where you listen. I guess on different

1:49:34.760 --> 1:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>stations they play it on different days, but it's only

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<v Speaker 1>one day a weekend. All right, that's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode. You can find links to everything I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned on my website richon Tech dot tv. Next week

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking from Ifa, Berlin. My name is rich Dmiro.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on social media at rich on tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways

1:49:54.640 --> 1:49:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending

1:49:57.120 --> 1:49:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes

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<v Speaker 1>this show possible. I will talk to you real soon