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Speaker 1: We'll talk all things evs well in Hollywood. The big

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Speaker 1: news right now is that Bob Barker has died. Legendary

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Speaker 1: Prices right in college. It was one of those things

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Speaker 1: I mean, at that moment, it is so tough to

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 6: knowing that five is kind of the bare minimum is reasonable.

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Speaker 6: I think for a lot of modern setups, most people

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Speaker 6: are kind of they're already. But I think you are

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Speaker 6: going to have situations where some people just don't have

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Speaker 6: a good setup in their house, so they haven't replaced

437
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 6: their router in twenty years, and they don't know why

438
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Speaker 6: it's slower there, and so they're going to be a

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Speaker 6: lot of tech calls about why isn't this working right?

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Speaker 6: Some of those issues and That's why I'm encouraging people

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Speaker 6: before they slap the two hundred bucks down that they

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Speaker 6: maybe look into try and remote play on other devices.

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Speaker 6: Try it on your phone, your Mac, your PC, whatever,

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Speaker 6: and see what you're already getting in that environment. Chances are,

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Speaker 6: if that's a decent experience, it'll be even better with

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Speaker 6: the portal.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the whole audio aspect of this, isn't

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Speaker 1: there kind of a weird audio aspect.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a little bit of funky going on with

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Speaker 6: this bit, and it feels a little like old Sony,

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Speaker 6: like memory stick, PlayStation portable, Vita Sony, where they wanted

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Speaker 6: to push a proprietary thing to players in that case

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Speaker 6: of with storage and cartridge type. In this case, it's

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Speaker 6: a new audio technology that they call PlayStation Link, and

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Speaker 6: PlayStation Link is a lossless potentially format or audio technology.

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Speaker 6: It will allow you to connect to these devices your

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Speaker 6: PlayStation portal and be able to hear audio in a

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Speaker 6: lossless way. It's also got two channels and by the

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Speaker 6: way they're making these heads they're making a headset and

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Speaker 6: a pair of earbuds to coincide with this launch. One

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Speaker 6: is called PlayStation Pulse Elite that's the large over the

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Speaker 6: ear headset, and the buds are called PlayStation Pulse Explore.

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Speaker 6: The real thing to know about those is both of

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Speaker 6: these support that link technology, which means this device will

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Speaker 6: work wireless wirelessly with those very low latency lossless audio.

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Speaker 6: That's really good if you're into the ecosystem and that's

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Speaker 6: what you want to hear. But this device does not

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Speaker 6: support Bluetooth. So if you've got existing headsets, earbuds or

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Speaker 6: whatever laying around and you want to use them with

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Speaker 6: this device, you're out of luck. Ironically, though, those devices

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Speaker 6: support Bluetooth from other sources, so you could use those earbuds,

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Speaker 6: for example, with your iPhone or Android phone, and it

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Speaker 6: would recognize it as a Bluetooth device. So it's kind

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Speaker 6: of weird it's serving one side and not the other.

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Speaker 6: They really want you to buy one of these headsets,

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Speaker 6: otherwise you're stuck with speakers or some sort of dongle adapter,

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Speaker 6: or at the very least you just you know, plug

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Speaker 6: it in with a with a wired headset, which it

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Speaker 6: does have support for.

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Speaker 1: What about someone who maybe, because this is probably going

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Speaker 1: to launch during the holidays, someone is purchasing a gift

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Speaker 1: for a friend or family member that has a PS five,

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Speaker 1: is this a good companion to that device if they

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Speaker 1: don't mind spending the money.

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Speaker 6: Let's say you're somebody who is one hundred percent in

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Speaker 6: the PlayStation ecosystem. You really just care about your PlayStations,

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Speaker 6: and right now the five is your PlayStation of the day,

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Speaker 6: and you're not dabbling in Steam decks or other you know, switches,

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Speaker 6: this sort of thing. If that's the case, and you

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Speaker 6: are that level of purest PlayStation player and you play

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Speaker 6: all the hoteny releases and you subscribe to their service,

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Speaker 6: I think this might be a good buy for those

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Speaker 6: for that very specific kind of person, which is what

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Speaker 6: I mean about it being kind of a weird, not niche.

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Speaker 6: But it's a smaller percentage of even the PlayStation market.

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Speaker 6: I think they could have passed a wider net, maybe

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Speaker 6: even made this device work with other services. They're not

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Speaker 6: going to make it work with xCloud, obviously, but maybe

499
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Speaker 6: it could have worked with in videos service or somebody else's,

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Speaker 6: but they chose to keep it all in house. And again,

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Speaker 6: if that's all you care about is your PlayStation games

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Speaker 6: and you continuing to play them in bed or off

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Speaker 6: on your trip, or on the plane or wherever you

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Speaker 6: can get that connection. Then yeah, I think two hundred

505
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Speaker 6: bucks is okay, especially if you already spent the six

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Speaker 6: hundred a couple of years ago, and you've already you know,

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Speaker 6: you've forgotten about that loss of cash in your wallet.

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Speaker 5: Scott, what game are you playing these days?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I have so many on my list, but right now

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Speaker 6: it's all about Balder's Gate three. The good news is

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Speaker 6: Balder's Gate three within a week or two, I believe,

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Speaker 6: launches on PlayStation five, and for a while it will

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Speaker 6: be a PS five console exclusive until the Xbox versions

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Speaker 6: ready later this year. This game is breaking every possible

516
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Speaker 6: record you can think of, including reviews and scores. Kind

517
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Speaker 6: of just shattered the world this year and a year

518
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Speaker 6: that has already got amazing games in it, Balder's Gate

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Speaker 6: three is the place to be, and PlayStation five owners

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Speaker 6: are about to get it, so I'm excited for them,

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Speaker 6: and it probably will plague really well on this device,

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Speaker 6: so I guess look forward to that, all right.

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Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, founder of the frog Pants Network and host

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Speaker 1: of the video games news and views podcast Core.

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Speaker 5: Where can folks find you online?

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Speaker 6: Best place to go would be FrogPants dot com. If

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Speaker 6: you're looking for Core or any other podcasts we do

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Speaker 6: frog pants dot com. We'll have a whole listing there

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Speaker 6: of those podcasts, and if you want to check me

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Speaker 6: out online, you can usually find me in all the

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Speaker 6: socials is either Scott Johnson or frog Pants.

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Speaker 2: So I look forward to seeing you there.

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Speaker 5: Scott, thanks so much for joining me today. If you

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Speaker 5: have a question about technology, hop on the phone is

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Speaker 5: triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 5: seven four two four one zero one more.

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech right after this, welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking

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Speaker 1: technology at triple A rich one on one. That's eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to John in Mission Viejo, California. John, you're

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Speaker 1: on with.

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Speaker 8: Rich Well, thank you very much. My question has to

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Speaker 8: do with two models of iPhone. The first one is

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Speaker 8: the fourteen Promax and the second one is the se model.

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Speaker 8: We're traveling to Europe in a couple of months and

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Speaker 8: I need to know if I need a converter to

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Speaker 8: go from sixty cycles to fifty cycles for each phone,

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Speaker 8: or can I just buy an adapter. That is each phone,

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00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 8: can it detect fifty cycles all by self?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's my experience with this. The only time

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00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: you need a travel there's two things. There's a travel

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00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: conver and then there's there's a voltage converter, and then

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Speaker 1: there's a travel adapter. So what you need is just

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Speaker 1: to travel adapter because if you look on the you know,

556
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Speaker 1: if you look on the tiny tiny print on these

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00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: plugs that you've got, they pretty much do fifty and

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00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: sixty hurts like you mentioned, So it's it's automatically going

559
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Speaker 1: to handle that part. The main thing you need to know,

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Speaker 1: and this, I think is is really tricky for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, and myself included when I when I

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Speaker 1: was going to Europe for the first time, this was

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what to expect. You know, I

564
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Speaker 1: didn't know if my phone was going to melt when

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Speaker 1: I plugged it in, right, But the reality is most

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Speaker 1: of the I guess you would call it the plug,

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Speaker 1: you know, the thing that you plug into the wall

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Speaker 1: here in the US, right, what would you call that, John.

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Speaker 8: I would call that the electrical receptacle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, no, what okay? The thing that you plug

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Speaker 1: into that what would you call that, the little like

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Speaker 1: square thing, what would you call that?

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Speaker 8: I would call that an adapter?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the adapter, So the adapter that we have

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Speaker 1: here in the US, the one that you plug your

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Speaker 1: iPhone like USB cord into. Those typically handle a range

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Speaker 1: of If you look on the back, it says input

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Speaker 1: one hundred to two hundred and forty volts one point

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Speaker 1: five amps, and then fifty to sixty hertz. So what

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Speaker 1: that means is that this device itself can handle a

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Speaker 1: little bit of fluctuation with the power supply. But I

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Speaker 1: think what it comes down to is, you know, the

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Speaker 1: plug on the end needs to be converted to be

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Speaker 1: able to plug into a European plug, you know, wall

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Speaker 1: outlet or something like that. So I don't The short

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Speaker 1: answer is all you need is an adapter. Do you

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Speaker 1: have an adapter?

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Speaker 9: So far?

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Speaker 8: If you have that, no, But I can go down

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Speaker 8: and I can buy a couple of adapters. We're going

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Speaker 8: over to Greece and then we're going to go over

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Speaker 8: to Italy and then also Craotia.

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Speaker 1: Oh very nice, very exciting. Well, one adapter should handle that.

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Speaker 1: The one that I like, that's it's very inexpensive. I've

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Speaker 1: used this in various countries. It's on Amazon. It's not

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Speaker 1: just me that likes this. It's got eleven thousand ratings.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty popular. It's the Epica EPI CKA and this

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00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: is a travel adapter that works in you know, different countries.

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Speaker 1: It's got USB on the bottom, the large USB and

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Speaker 1: it's on sale for eighteen dollars and thirty nine cents.

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Speaker 1: So I like that one. And it's got one USBC.

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Speaker 1: So the idea is that you can actually plug that

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Speaker 1: into the wall and then you don't even need your converter.

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Speaker 1: You can just or your wall adapter. You can just

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Speaker 1: plug your USB directly into that. Now that's going to

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Speaker 1: work nicely. But if you want something that powers up

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Speaker 1: devices faster, I do also like this one called one

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Speaker 1: Adapter one World one hundred, and this is a little

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Speaker 1: bit more expensive. It's closer to like ninety dollars, but

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Speaker 1: this will power things like your laptop and your tablet

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Speaker 1: without the need for your adapter at all. So you

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Speaker 1: can plug that directly into the wall, then plug your

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Speaker 1: USBC into it. It's got two USB C two USBA

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00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: and you can plug that. But what you need to

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Speaker 1: know when you travel is that most of your regular gadgets,

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Speaker 1: like your phones and your tablets and your laptops, those

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Speaker 1: will all be fine with the adapters that you already have,

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Speaker 1: and you just need a travel adapter. It's when you

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Speaker 1: look at things like appliances. So if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a hair dryer or a hair straightener, that's when you

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Speaker 1: need a travel voltage converter. And so that's where it

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Speaker 1: gets a little bit trickier because those have a different

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Speaker 1: power requirement, and so those those definitely are not definitely

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Speaker 1: but many times need a converter. So that's the answer

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Speaker 1: to that. I know it's so complicated because it's but basically,

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Speaker 1: what I've found is that most of the things just

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Speaker 1: sort of work. So that's the good news, all right, John,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the question today from a mission Viejo. Appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here. Let me talk about two things that

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Speaker 1: I think you should know about here. Number one, Meta

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Speaker 1: Meta has rolled out a new version of threads, and

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Speaker 1: Threads is now on the web. So remember we talked

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Speaker 1: about threads. This is sort of their answer to Twitter

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Speaker 1: from Facebook. It is now available on the internet. I

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Speaker 1: know it does not sound weird, but it was. It

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Speaker 1: was previously available on the apps on iOS and Android

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Speaker 1: and on the internet you can only view someone's thread.

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Speaker 1: But now you can actually go to the website threads

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Speaker 1: let's see, is it threads dot net and you can search,

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Speaker 1: you can post, you can repost whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 1: You can basically do most of the functionality that you

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Speaker 1: can do on the app version on the web. So

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Speaker 1: what does that mean, Well, it just gives Twitter a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a competition because before, if you

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Speaker 1: were a really hardcore user of this, you had to

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Speaker 1: go on your phone, and it was tough to just

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Speaker 1: leave this on on your computer all day because it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything. But now you can leave it on

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Speaker 1: your computer. You can do the same stuff you can do.

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Speaker 1: So if you haven't checked out threads lately, check it

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Speaker 1: out again threads dot net. You just log in with

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Speaker 1: your Instagram and you can read, you can write, you

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Speaker 1: can post, you can repost, and it just gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer to a product that is easier to

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Speaker 1: use more so. You know, they had one hundred million

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Speaker 1: and then a lot of people dropped off, so according

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Speaker 1: to let's see Reuters and Let's see similar Web says

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Speaker 1: daily active users on threads dropped to ten million from

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Speaker 1: I mean I could tell this myself and just kind

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Speaker 1: you have a LinkedIn account, they are under attack. Cyberint

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Speaker 1: says their research team has observed an alarming trend lots

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Speaker 1: of people getting hacked on LinkedIn and this is happening

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Speaker 1: to people around the world. And what they do once

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Speaker 1: trick other people. They do a whole bunch of the

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Speaker 1: standard stuff that they do when people hack you. People

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Speaker 1: always say, why do they want to hack me? What

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Speaker 1: do they want to do with my account? Well, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to trick your friends. They're basically when you have

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Speaker 1: a hacked account, that account is legitimate, and so because

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Speaker 1: it's a legitimate account, you can do things on that

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Speaker 1: account and fly under the radar for longer, which means

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Speaker 1: You can post a lot of stuff without the spam

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Speaker 1: flags getting you because it thinks that you're a regular account.

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Speaker 1: So that's why spammers don't just set up a new account.

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Speaker 1: They love to have your account because your account is

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Speaker 1: marked as a legitimate account. Computer systems can figure out

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Speaker 1: when spammers sign up for thousands of accounts all at

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Speaker 1: the same time because it all comes from the same

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Speaker 1: IP address, and there's other things that kind of indicate

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Speaker 1: that that those are not real people, their bots. But

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Speaker 1: when they take over your account, it says, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is an account that's been around for a while, it's

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Speaker 1: been used for a while, and so it's more trusted

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Speaker 1: and that's why they like those accounts better than setting

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Speaker 1: up new accounts. Anyway, if you have a LinkedIn account,

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Speaker 1: it is now a good time to go through and

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Speaker 1: make sure that there are no other email addresses or

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Speaker 1: old email addresses on your account. Change your password, make

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Speaker 1: sure that it is a specific password just for LinkedIn,

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Speaker 1: don't reuse one, and turn on two step verification. This

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Speaker 1: will send you a text when someone tries to log

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Speaker 1: do not want something posted to your LinkedIn and your

702
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Speaker 1: boss sees it, right, and it's something that's really bad.

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Speaker 1: That would be a really look because this is what

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Speaker 1: people use for work and all that good stuff. So

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Speaker 1: all things AI and hacking. Plus, uh, maybe you got

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Speaker 1: kick things off of John John in Los Angeles. You're

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Speaker 1: on with Rich.

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Speaker 10: Hi.

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Speaker 11: Rich.

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Speaker 9: I switched my home internet last week, and I have

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Speaker 9: a Gmail account that it won't let me log in

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Speaker 9: since I switched the internet. So I go to log

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Speaker 9: in and I'm getting a message that says we need

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Speaker 9: to verify that it was you. And I put the

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Speaker 9: correct security word ahead written down, and it still won't

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Speaker 9: let me log in. And then I put the correct

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Speaker 9: password and I get the same message again that says

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Speaker 9: we can't verify that it's you.

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Speaker 7: So I'm I'm sort of at a lot.

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Speaker 9: Of what to do about it. I called Google's eight

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Speaker 9: hundred number and stayed on on hold for about four hours.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they didn't answer.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know they had an a hundred number.

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Speaker 1: They do Google, Okay, So number one, is this your

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Speaker 1: primary account?

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Speaker 9: It's not, It's a it's like a backup account. One

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Speaker 9: of the problems I'm having is I use it to

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Speaker 9: verify a subscription service, so now I can't I can't

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Speaker 9: cancel the subscription because I can't log into that email,

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Speaker 9: so it's preventing me from doing that.

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Speaker 1: And okay, so I think I think what's happening here

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Speaker 1: is your your change of provider has triggered some sort

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Speaker 1: of security situation with Google. That's what I'm understanding. Have

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Speaker 1: you logged into this account on any other device that

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Speaker 1: you still have, like your cell phone?

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Speaker 9: Perhaps no, I haven't, And that's sort of the problem

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Speaker 9: because there's a message that says, go to a device

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Speaker 9: where you're already.

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Speaker 11: Logged in, right right, you'll be able.

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Speaker 9: To confirm it. But because it's a backup email, I only,

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Speaker 9: you know, on purpose, ever used it on my laptop,

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Speaker 9: so I never had a reason to log into it

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Speaker 9: on a phone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I would, Okay, So what email Google is

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Speaker 1: trying to do is, yeah, they're trying to verify that

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Speaker 1: it is you. And it's interesting that it's still triggering

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Speaker 1: all of these security alerts when you're logging in with

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Speaker 1: the correct information. That's what's a little bit concerning. And

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a bigger message to everyone that

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Speaker 1: has an account that you know, anything can happen at

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Speaker 1: any time. So if you think that just because you've

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Speaker 1: got your stuff backed up or sorry, not backed up.

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Speaker 1: If you think you have your you know, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you wrote down your code word, you have your password,

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Speaker 1: and you still can't get access to this account. Now,

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Speaker 1: remember these are free accounts, so I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: you're always giving and taking with that because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: in the terms of service at some point it says

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Speaker 1: somewhere like we don't guarantee anything. You know, we may

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Speaker 1: take this away from you at any time. So I

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Speaker 1: say that because you know, we got to back up

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Speaker 1: our information just in case something like this happens. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think that you will get regain access to this account.

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Speaker 1: So what I would do is I would try logging

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Speaker 1: in from another device that you have, like your smartphone.

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Speaker 1: I would try logging in from there see if that works.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know that you didn't log in

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Speaker 1: from that before, but it may. It may like the

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Speaker 1: fact that you're logging in from another device that you've

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Speaker 1: either surfed the web on with Google or done something

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Speaker 1: on there, even though you didn't log into there. You

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Speaker 1: can you know, obviously, you can go to the account recovery,

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Speaker 1: which it sounds like you've already done. But on that

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Speaker 1: account recovery page, if you Google and you got to

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Speaker 1: be careful with the phone numbers that you call, because

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Speaker 1: if you just Google for a phone number, I don't

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Speaker 1: recommend doing that. But if you type in Gmail recovery

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Speaker 1: into Google, and Gmail help page comes up says how

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Speaker 1: to recover your Google account or Gmail, and it gives

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Speaker 1: you some tips on there, and I think, John, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of good tips on there. Where it says

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Speaker 1: let's see here, it says that there's a way to

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Speaker 1: you know, like log in from a device that you've

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Speaker 1: already logged in from. It gives you like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we go some a tip from Tips for Recovery. Okay,

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Speaker 1: answer as many questions as possible. Use a familiar device

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Speaker 1: and location. Use a computer, phone or tablet where you

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Speaker 1: frequently sign in, use the same browser being a location

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Speaker 1: that you usually sign in from home or work. Be

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Speaker 1: exact with passwords and answers to security questions. And let's

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Speaker 1: see what else here? Enter an email connected here account.

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Speaker 1: So those are all kind of ways you can do it.

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Speaker 1: If you look in the upper right hand corner of

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Speaker 1: this help page, there is a contact us and I

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Speaker 1: think that that would be easier to contact Google than

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Speaker 1: calling them. I have chatted with Google before with issues,

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Speaker 1: and they absolutely do help. And I think that the

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Speaker 1: chat is a much better way of getting some help

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Speaker 1: with this than calling in the phone number. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: I feel for you. I like that you had things

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Speaker 1: written down, and you've got your recovery word and your password.

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Speaker 1: Everything is written down. It sounds like you're doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing. But this is indeed frustrating. And I know

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Speaker 1: how frustrating is because in this very room that I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting in, the first time that I logged into my

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Speaker 1: Google in this room, I set off some sort of

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Speaker 1: red alert at Google that locked out every single one

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Speaker 1: of my Google features. And I about had a heart

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Speaker 1: attack when I saw every single one of my systems.

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Speaker 1: I saw my computer, my phone, my tablet, everything logged

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Speaker 1: out because it said, sorry, we noticed unauthorized access to

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Speaker 1: your account. I guess because it was the first time

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Speaker 1: I was logging in from here and they didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: And my heart stopped because I said, what if I

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Speaker 1: don't get access to my account again? That would be really,

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Speaker 1: really bad. And what you've just described is the fact

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Speaker 1: that even if you take the time to make sure

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Speaker 1: you have all of your login info, these systems can

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Speaker 1: lock you out for any reason, even as simple as

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Speaker 1: changing your ISP your Internet service provider, and it's saying, hmm,

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Speaker 1: we don't really like this. We've never seen John log

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Speaker 1: in this way before. So it is a scary reminder

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Speaker 1: that we need to back up our information. We need

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Speaker 1: to write down those recovery passwords and those codes that

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Speaker 1: they give us, and we need to keep good notes

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Speaker 1: about our passwords because sometimes they ask you for an

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Speaker 1: old password and they say, hey, what was your password

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Speaker 1: before this? And you know, Google is up against a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff here. They're up against a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that are trying to break into accounts twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven, and so they come up with these systems

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Speaker 1: that are not perfect, but hopefully they filter out a

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Speaker 1: lot of the bad actors. So John, check out that

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Speaker 1: support page, try to chat with Google. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, make sure that you back

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Speaker 1: up your stuff. I'm guilty of not having a backup

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Speaker 1: of everything, so I need to do that, and so

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Speaker 1: do you, especially your pictures, your files, anything that's important.

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Speaker 1: Your Gmail. You can use what's called Google takeout. So

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Speaker 1: if you have a Google account, check out Google Takeout.

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Speaker 1: You can download your data from Google using that service,

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Speaker 1: and it may take a while depending on how much

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Speaker 1: you have, but it can definitely help. Thanks for the call, John,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you get recovery on your account and

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Speaker 1: email me and let me know if you do. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of shutting down accounts, shut or fly has been setting

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Speaker 1: a lot of emails. At first, they were going to

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Speaker 1: shut down any accounts that had not been active for

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Speaker 1: eighteen months, so if you didn't make a purchase, or

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Speaker 1: if you didn't do anything on your account, basically, if

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Speaker 1: you didn't make a purchase in the past eighteen months,

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: they were going to delete all of your photos. Well,

873
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: apparently a new CEO has taken over and they said,

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Speaker 1: we're gon, we're gonna pause this idea because we don't

875
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: like it anymore. So now accounts that even if you

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00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't make a purchase in the past eighteen months, they're

877
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Speaker 1: going to keep your photos on Shutterfly. But if you

878
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: haven't done anything in five years, they're still going to

879
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: delete them. So you may have gotten that email from Shutterfly.

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: The bottom line is if you want to keep your

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Speaker 1: photos on Shutterfly that you've had there forever, you need

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Speaker 1: to make a purchase within five years, So that's that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the bottom line that I'm reading here. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't made a purchase in eighteen months, we still

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Speaker 1: designate your account as inactive, but we're not going to

886
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: delete those pictures. Very very confusing, shutterfly. You need someone

887
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: better to write your emails, because it took me about

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00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: an hour to read this email and figure out what

889
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me. So this app is pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are talking about it. It's called

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Speaker 1: call Sheet c A L L S H e e T.

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00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: This is an iOS alternative to IMDb. IMDb is really

893
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: cool because it can keep track of all the movies

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Speaker 1: you want to watch. You can look up people, but

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Speaker 1: it's gotten really cluttered ever since Amazon purchased it, and

896
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: it's just got a lot of junk on there. So

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: if you want something that's really clean, check out call Sheet.

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00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people are talking about this. I downloaded it.

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Speaker 1: It is very clean. It's only on iPhone for now,

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Speaker 1: and you do have to pay after a bunch of

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00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: free searches. It's either a dollar a month or nine

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, But don't let that dissuade you. I

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00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: would still download this if you are looking for an

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Speaker 1: app to keep track of your movies and you know

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Speaker 1: you just want to look things up. It's pretty cool.

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00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: So it's got a way to look up actors, see

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Speaker 1: what movies are in. You can keep a list of

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Speaker 1: the things you want to watch, and it also links

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Speaker 1: out to just watch to see where a TV show

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Speaker 1: or movie is streaming. It's not quite as detailed IMDb,

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Speaker 1: but it still works. It's called call Sheet c A

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Speaker 1: L L S H E E T. I will put

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Speaker 1: it on the show links. And by the way, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get in on the feedback segment, which

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Speaker 1: is at the end of the show, if you have

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Speaker 1: something to say about this show or about me or anything,

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Speaker 1: you can go to my website rich on Tech dot tv,

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Speaker 1: hit the contact button and I'll make sure you get

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Speaker 1: in the feedback segment at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we'll talk about AT and t's

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Speaker 1: new Internet air plus more of your calls at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. This is rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here at

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Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one oh one that's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Judy in San Diego. Judy, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 12: Hi.

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Speaker 13: Rich.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking I'm an older person. I'm thinking of getting

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Speaker 7: my first smartphone. However, I do have an Apple iPad Mini,

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Speaker 7: so I'm somewhat familiar with devices. I've had the rugged

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Speaker 7: kios Era uh duraphone XB I think that you get

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Speaker 7: from you buy them to Verizon.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 7: So I have really liked this phone because you can

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Speaker 7: drop it in the pool, you can drop it on concrete.

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Speaker 7: It really holds up. They call the military garade grade

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Speaker 7: for durability. Oh yeah, so what would what would your

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Speaker 7: Are you familiar with the these and I wondered what

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Speaker 7: your opinion would be if I went for the latest

942
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Speaker 7: one that is coming out, the Kyosera Dura Force Ultra

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Speaker 7: five G. It's eight ninety nine and I can drop it,

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Speaker 7: and I dropped stuff all the time. I wouldn't worry

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Speaker 7: about it cracking and breaking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Dura Force Pro three smartphone military.

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Speaker 7: Standard they have. They have a newer one coming out now.

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Speaker 7: You can even get a new battery.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, this is on Verizon this just just

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00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: came out. It looks like July I got the information.

951
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: IPX IP sixty eight Dust and waterproof Military. It's more

952
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: than a set of specs. Let's see here. Let's see

953
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: enterprise level durability, Hazardous Location Protection, Wi Fi sixty Blazing

954
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: five g dual SIM Enhanced Security, Outdoor Visible Display X

955
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: frame structure adds reinforcement to withstand drops, dirt, water, and more,

956
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: washed and sanitized Qualcom Snapdragon seven six gigs a RAM.

957
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: Let's see what else here. Forty two seventy million hour

958
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: battery slide lock to prevent unintended displacement. Oh, removable and

959
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: replaceable battery. That's what you were talking about. Huh. Now

960
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing. This is aimed towards construction workers. So

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Speaker 1: that's are you. Are you dropping your phone a lot?

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Speaker 1: Or are you on construction side?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 7: I have arthritis in my fingers, so I find I

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Speaker 7: dropped stuff a lot. Plus I do ride a bicycle.

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Speaker 7: I have an e bike, and even though I'm older,

967
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Speaker 7: I do this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But oh, wow, you have an e bike. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: You're a little high techie Judy, Well not.

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Speaker 7: Really high Techee. I mean I just do a lot,

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Speaker 7: but I'm not techie because I've never had a smartphone yet,

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Speaker 7: and I'm thinking because I have really liked this other

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Speaker 7: phone so much and dropped it so many times and

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Speaker 7: never had a problem, I'm thinking of going with that.

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Speaker 7: But it is Android, and so is this one I have.

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Speaker 7: But I don't get data on it because I use

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Speaker 7: my iPad for that. So I'm wondering what the drawbacks

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Speaker 7: would be of not going with a more well known

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Speaker 7: brand like Samsung or a smartphone iPhone.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so good question. I think number one, probably

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Speaker 1: the top drawback is the price. You're paying a very

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Speaker 1: premium price for this device, and I think it has

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Speaker 1: a lot of features that you may not need per se.

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Speaker 1: At nine hundred dollars. Now, it may be cheaper if

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00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: it's you know, if they give you a deal or

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: something through Verizon. But the other thing is that the software.

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00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: I'd have to look at the the software kind of

988
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: like what they say, and I'm trying to see if

989
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: it says it on here, you know, because a lot

990
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: of the new Android phones the software is updated for

991
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: about three to five years, so it depends if this phone,

992
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, has that many years of lasting out. I

993
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: think you can be just fine with a phone that

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00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: has a really nice case on it. Like if you

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Speaker 1: went with like, let's say you want to stick to Android,

996
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: you can get a Pixel seven a for like four

997
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks something like that, and a case

998
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: that is like maybe fifty dollars, and you could have

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00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: a case that's pretty much going to be almost as

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Speaker 1: protective as this device.

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Speaker 7: Because well, I probably probably go with the with the

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Speaker 7: Apple then, because I already have the Apple device for

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Speaker 7: the iPad Mini. And my concern too was I used

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Speaker 7: my phone for basics. I don't use it like oh

1005
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 7: yeah with all these apps and stuff, but I do

1006
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Speaker 7: like the camera on my old iPad mini, and for

1007
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 7: if I get a smartphone, i'd probably want to transfer

1008
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 7: the pictures over to my iPad mini. Yeah, I know

1009
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 7: if you can do that with the Androids do switch

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 7: them over?

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00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can. You can switch that over. There's

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00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: a there's an app actually called switch to iOS, and

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: so you could download that to your Android. Sorry move okay,

1014
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: let me see what the app is called. It's called

1015
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: move to.

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 7: I don't have a computer, no, it would just have

1017
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 7: to go to the.

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00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: iPad yep, This is called move to iOS and that

1019
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: will help you move your your pictures from there to

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00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: your uh to the iOS phone. So you would install

1021
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: that on your Android and it would help you do that.

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00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: I would recommend for you. I think the iPhone SE

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00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: and I think that that would be a good phone

1024
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: to get. And I think the benefit of getting this

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00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: is that you put a good case on there. And

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00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: the case. I mean, there's so many rugged cases out

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: there that you know. I mean, I love the case

1028
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: the stuff from Spec so those are great cases. But

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00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean you can get one that's our zag. They

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Speaker 1: have them that are you know, rug it up to

1031
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: like thirteen feet drops and then you get a nice

1032
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: screen protector on there and you're pretty much covered, and

1033
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: this will have a home button. I think the iPhone

1034
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: SE would probably be a good one for you. It

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: starts at four hundred and thirty dollars. By the time

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00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: you get the case and the screen protector, you're talking

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: maybe five hundred dollars. And once you've got to protected,

1038
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be easier because it has everything

1039
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: you need. You've got friends and family to help, You've

1040
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: got the Apple stores to walk into if you need

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00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: help with that, so, Judy, I think that that might

1042
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Speaker 1: be a better bet. But if you like the Kyo

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Sarah and you like the rugged phone, I just think

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00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna be paying more for something you may not need.

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Speaker 1: So good question. Thanks for calling today. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to doctor Chris Pearson, founder of

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Speaker 1: Black Cloak. We're gonna talk about AI and hacking right

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Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talking tech with you at triple eight

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Speaker 1: rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Give me a call

1052
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: if you have a question about technology, or hop on

1053
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Speaker 1: the internet and send me an email. Just go to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot tv hit the contact button. And yes,

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Speaker 1: you are all having a field day with my old

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Speaker 1: school video of me on the Price is Right. Yes

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Speaker 1: I had a different haircut, Yes I was younger. No

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Speaker 1: I didn't win anything. Yes I got down to contestants

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Speaker 1: row And actually I didn't mention this when I first

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Speaker 1: told you about Bob Barker, but he actually scolded me

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Speaker 1: on the show because I was going to USC and

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Speaker 1: the guy next to me was going to Pepperdine and

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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, Soo's are kind of rivals. Not really,

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Speaker 1: but I made a jab at Pepperdin and Bob Barker

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Speaker 1: just barked at me. He was like, don't make fun

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Speaker 1: of his school, and I was like, whoa. It was like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line is doctor Chris Pearson, CEO

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Speaker 1: and founder of Black Cloak. Doctor Chris, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 11: Hey Rich good here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me first off about black Cloak. What

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: do you do with black Cloak?

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Speaker 14: Black Cloak provides concierge, cybersecurity, and privacy protection to high

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Speaker 14: net worth ALDR high networth individuals, celebrities, sports stars, rock stars,

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Speaker 14: folks that are in the public eye, Folks that people

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Speaker 14: want to get their personal information on, want to get

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Speaker 14: their pictures, want to hack into their homes or their

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Speaker 14: camera feeds.

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Speaker 11: They're really having a you know, either an obsession with.

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00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 14: Them or more importantly, they want to go ahead and

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00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 14: steal their money or steal information or documents or things

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00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 14: about them. And we protect those individuals through our black

1082
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 14: Cloak platform. So kind of a higher end solution for

1083
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 14: those people that have very very high end knee and

1084
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 14: high end targets after them.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I never really thought about that, But that must

1086
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: be so wild. If you're a celebrity, you must be

1087
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: almost under attack twenty four to seven by these security threats.

1088
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Like if you, let's just say, you get like a

1089
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Nest camera for your house and it's set up wrong

1090
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: and someone taps into that, it's like, oh, that could

1091
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: be really bad. So do you actually physically go to

1092
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: like these people's places and like see their setups or

1093
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: is it more like you know how to secure their Gmail?

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00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 11: Well, it's definitely how to secure their Gmail.

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00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 14: But I mean our platform actually goes in ahead and

1097
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 14: assesses their homes every seven days. So literally, we have

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 14: an entire team of individuals that every seven days tries

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00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 14: to break into our clients' homes.

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Speaker 11: Let's just say celebrity it breaks.

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00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 14: It tries to break into the celebrities' homes and we

1102
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 14: try to see if we can get in. Can we

1103
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 14: get into the camera, can get into their internet, can

1104
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 14: we get into their Wi Fi? Can we get into

1105
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 14: their systems? All done remotely through our platform, And if yes,

1106
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 14: then we'll work with their AB company, their AB probrider

1107
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 14: to go ahead and close those gaps. And if no,

1108
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 14: then they can rest with the kind of peace of

1109
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 14: mind and kind of be safe from all those digital threats.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is so wild. So what is

1111
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: your advice for the average person that obviously, you know, uh,

1112
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: just wants to stay protected. Do you think that you

1113
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: would be able to break into the average person's home

1114
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: network or Wi Fi or you know, security cameras very

1115
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: easily or do you think that these systems have gotten

1116
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: to a place where they're pretty good out of the box.

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 14: Well, what's interesting is the ones that are you know,

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00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 14: kind of the consumer DIY solutions right, A lot of

1119
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 14: them now auto update, they auto apply patches. Really, the

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Speaker 14: number one way to get in on a consumer grade

1121
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 14: solution is going to be because they're using a username

1122
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 14: i e. Your email address and a password that has

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00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 14: been breached and it's the same password you use everywhere else.

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Speaker 14: It's like all the usual stuff you talk about of, Hey,

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00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 14: have a unique password for those key sites, a camera system.

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Speaker 11: Your ring, doorbell, your nest, all the rest of this.

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 14: You're going to want a unique pass for all those

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Speaker 14: but more importantly, more importantly, turn on dual factor authentication

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Speaker 14: for all of those accounts, all of those devices. And

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Speaker 14: the email that controls them, your Gmail, your Yahoo, whatever

1131
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 14: it might be. Turn on dual factor for that. That's

1132
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 14: going to be the single greatest piece of advice that

1133
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 14: we can give to consumers. On the celebrity side, these

1134
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 14: are really expensive, high end solutions, high end cameras. There's

1135
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 14: a whole other extra layer of patching that needs to happen,

1136
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 14: security updates, and really system architecture. These homes are kind

1137
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 14: of like small businesses, so to speak. So there's a

1138
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 14: lot more there. But for the everyday consumer, phrase told

1139
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 14: you to do one thing, it would be this, turn

1140
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 14: on dual factor authentication onto your IoT, your Internet of

1141
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 14: Things device, your camera system, whatever it might be. Turn

1142
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 14: on dual factor authentication on there. That is going to

1143
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 14: protect you up at that ninety five percent plus mark.

1144
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: Now you're recently at the black Hat conference. There's so

1145
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: there's black Hat and there's def Con. They go on

1146
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of simultaneously in Vegas. Explain the difference.

1147
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 14: So black Hat ends up being a conference that is

1148
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 14: maybe more corporate focused. So it's kind of the summer

1149
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 14: summer activity for chief information security officers. So at all

1150
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 14: large companies, they have chief information security officers CISOs, and

1151
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 14: so they'll come to black Hat and they'll be looking

1152
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 14: for the latest and greatest technology. Talk to the vendors,

1153
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,959
Speaker 14: talk to suppliers, figure out how new things can either

1154
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 14: automate more make more simple their corporate structure, the corporate

1155
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 14: security posture, and also to integrate and talk to and

1156
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 14: collaborate with one another. It's probably one of the biggest

1157
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 14: benefits of me as a former chief information security officer.

1158
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 11: It's one of the biggest benefits of black Hat.

1159
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 14: In a relaxed environment in Las Vegas, be able to

1160
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 14: get together, sit, have a beer of people, talk to people,

1161
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 14: chat with people that are your peers.

1162
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 11: What are you doing well on? What could you better on?

1163
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 14: Ask people about things that you have problems with, and

1164
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 14: there's a lot of information sharing and knowledge sharing there.

1165
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 14: Then def CON's a little more can we call it

1166
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 14: summer camp for hackers. It's more where the higher intent

1167
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 14: behind def con is to push the envelopes, push the limits.

1168
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 11: They have a whole bunch of like hacker villages that

1169
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 11: are set up.

1170
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Speaker 14: It might be an electric system, might be voter machines,

1171
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 14: it could be anything, and the folks actually will break

1172
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 14: in and try to hack into those devices and they'll compete.

1173
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 14: They'll compete for awards, so compete for prices, they'll compete

1174
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 14: for notoriety, and.

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Speaker 11: So all that is at def Con.

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Speaker 14: Two very very different conferences, but a great way to

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Speaker 14: grow your mind no matter which audience you fall into.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing and it's so interesting, the whole idea

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Speaker 1: of being in person, Like I go to a bunch

1180
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Speaker 1: of these shows every year, and it's just so great

1181
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: to be with your peers, to actually talk about stuff

1182
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: in person, because that's when you know, like you said,

1183
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: over the drinks, over the beer, over the meetings, where

1184
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: you actually get to like say, hey, I'm seeing this,

1185
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: like what do you think of that? And just see

1186
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Speaker 1: what they say.

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Speaker 2: Let's totally agree.

1188
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: What were some of your big takeaways? Like, I assume

1189
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: that AI was a big topic of conversation this year.

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Speaker 1: What were your big takeaways from the conference?

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I will tell you a lot of

1192
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 14: us were talking about AI and where we're actually at

1193
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 14: there's a lot of hype here right now. I mean

1194
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 14: as we take a look at things, there's kind of normal.

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 14: There's kind of normal machine learning, which is more if

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 14: this than that. So it's ways of looking at things

1197
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 14: and saying, if a then go ahead and turn a

1198
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 14: red switch and then turn a blue switch. And then

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Speaker 14: it allows you to predictively analyze and assess certain things.

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Speaker 14: It could be for anti fraud purposes, for into money laundering,

1201
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 14: for cybersecurity. But machine learning has really grown up a

1202
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 14: lot and been integrated into a lot more corporate cybersecurity products.

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 11: Generative AI.

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Speaker 14: This kind of chat GPT that we're all talking about,

1205
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 14: generative means it actually creates something for you. You know, hey,

1206
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 14: I want you to go ahead and write a story

1207
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 14: about a man walking on the beach and he meets

1208
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 14: his a favorite new dog. Whatever it might be, you know,

1209
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 14: you can put that into chat GPT. It will generate

1210
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 14: it for you. It could be a picture, it could

1211
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 14: be an image, could be a story. Of course, that

1212
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 14: has enabled AI to get out into the hands of

1213
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 14: the everyday person. Corporate security AI, I mean it is evolving,

1214
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 14: but not quite there yet.

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Speaker 11: I mean there's a.

1216
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 14: Lot of a lot of kind of uh, you know,

1217
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 14: marketing going.

1218
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 11: On about AI. AI AI. We're not all the way

1219
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 11: there yet. But what is.

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Speaker 14: Happening is that to the extent things are growing and

1221
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 14: becoming better. They are being integrated into corporate systems, but also,

1222
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 14: quite honestly, it's aber criminals are doing the same thing.

1223
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 14: I'll give you an example. So generative AI allows for

1224
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 14: you to write something in better English to make it

1225
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 14: sound better right now, kind of the crutch of a

1226
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 14: lot of phishing emails is ooh, it has some spellings.

1227
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Speaker 14: It doesn't use words or language that we would find

1228
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 14: in common parlance here in the United States. And so

1229
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Speaker 14: I want to write an email that tells you that

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01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 14: your username and password has expired and you need to

1231
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 14: click here on the link. Well, I can tell that

1232
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 14: to chat GPT and it will push out something that

1233
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 14: is grammatically correct, looks accurate, has much better English, no

1234
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 14: broken English, and therefore it makes it for a consumer

1235
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 14: to spot whether it's a phishing email or not because

1236
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 14: it's been generated correctly.

1237
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Speaker 11: That's probably one of the biggest things that we see

1238
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 11: and upward trend on right now.

1239
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's scary. So basically, these AI systems can help

1240
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: these even if you don't really have a commanding use

1241
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: of the English language, it can help them write in

1242
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: that method. What about this yes scam that you were mentioning?

1243
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, so I mean, we're seeing a lot more

1244
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 14: in terms of phone scams out there, you know, tech

1245
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 14: support scams where somebody calls and says, hey, I'm Microsoft

1246
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 14: on Apple you have something wrong with your computer?

1247
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 11: Can we jump on it and help you?

1248
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 14: And the person says, yeah, of course you can, and

1249
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 14: you download a program. They get on and right, you've

1250
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 14: now paid money to somebody and also they've taken all

1251
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 14: your data. What we're actually seeing right now is some

1252
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 14: of the what we call the the yes scams. So

1253
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 14: this is where a scammer goes ahead and calls you

1254
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 14: and gets you to say, you know, hey, am I

1255
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 14: talking too rich? And the answer is yes, and they'll

1256
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 14: record your voice saying yes, this is rich and they

1257
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 14: can use that to replay back into bank systems for

1258
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 14: voice identification and fingerprinting, so to speak. So what we're

1259
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 14: seeing is this happening a lot more. You know, can

1260
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 14: you hear me? And then the answer is yes, Oh wow,

1261
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 14: that's tricky. Yeah, Well it's one of those things where

1262
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 14: you know, you say, hey, is this rich? It's your bank?

1263
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 14: On answer is yes, hey rich, can you hear me?

1264
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 14: Is this call going okay?

1265
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 4: Yes?

1266
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 14: That gets you to immediatelicit that yes response, and so

1267
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 14: it becomes very very very dangerous and potentially can be

1268
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 14: used in the future.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I was on the phone yesterday with my

1270
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: wireless company and they said, hey, can we make a

1271
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: voice fingerprint of your of your fingerprint of your voice

1272
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: to read for biometrics, And I was like, I said, no,

1273
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: but what's your advice on that? Should people be saying

1274
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: no to that or yes?

1275
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 11: I don't know how many times you and I have

1276
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 11: said yes or no on this call. I know here

1277
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 11: at the bottom.

1278
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 14: Line is that many corporations are actually using your recorded

1279
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 14: voice when you call in so they can get a

1280
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 14: what's called a baseline. They can know how you sound.

1281
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 14: It doesn't really change all that much, you know, once

1282
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 14: you're in your twenties and thirties, it's not really changing

1283
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 14: that much.

1284
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 11: And so if that is your bank doing it.

1285
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 14: Or even your wireless carrier, I mean, that's kind of

1286
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 14: interesting because on the wireless carry side, there's a lot

1287
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 14: of what's called sim swapping going on, and so if

1288
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 14: you actually were to have said yes you can and

1289
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 14: have I don't know, let's just save horizon record your

1290
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 14: voice and do a baseline.

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Speaker 11: It actually can.

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Speaker 14: Enable the better protection of your account and your phone

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Speaker 14: and the ability to text you and get dual factor

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Speaker 14: and all the rest. That's probably paramount to them having

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Speaker 14: a you know, fifteen second thirty second clip of your voice.

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Speaker 14: So in that case, I would actually opt to say, yes,

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Speaker 14: you can, you go ahead and record it, so you

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Speaker 14: now have a baseline of what I sound like. So

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Speaker 14: any anomaly, any differential from there will be flagged as

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Speaker 14: a variance, and then they will go into stepped up

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Speaker 14: authentication a you know, rich, when what type of phone

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Speaker 14: do you have? When was the last time you up

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Speaker 14: your service? When was the last time you're actually in

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Speaker 14: a Verizon store?

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Speaker 11: So to speak? Right, And that allows them to do

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Speaker 11: some sip up authentication.

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Speaker 14: This one thing the sembercriminals are not necessarily able to

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Speaker 14: do is go ahead and replicate fool your voice down.

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Speaker 14: We are seeing some of it start in terms of

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Speaker 14: proof of concepts, but nothing that's been mass scale applied everywhere.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, We're gonna leave it there, Doctor Chris Pearson,

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Speaker 1: CEO and founder of black Cloak. You can go to

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Speaker 1: the website black cloak dot io. Always so interesting and

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Speaker 1: the irony of my call yesterday, I was actually trying

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Speaker 1: to do a simswap for my own phones. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for calling Triple eight rich one O one more

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Speaker 1: of your calls at eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one is the phone

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Speaker 1: number to all. Let's go to Alex in Nuevo California.

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Speaker 1: Is that how I say it? Nuvau Neuvaux, California. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: we gotta. I can't hear you, Alex. Uh, maybe call

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Speaker 1: back Alex. We had a back connection there. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to carry in mission via ho is this our second mission?

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Speaker 1: Viejo call today? Carry your on with rich Huh. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're having problems with all of our callers right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well maybe it's us. It's not you, it's me. I

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Speaker 1: was explaining to my kids. They asked me last night, Uh, Carrie,

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Speaker 1: I can't hear you either, so maybe carry there? Yes,

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Speaker 1: oh there you are, Okay. I was explaining to my

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Speaker 1: kids last night. They said, how do you break up

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Speaker 1: with someone? And I said, well, you just say it's

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Speaker 1: not you, it's me, And they laughed. What can I

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Speaker 1: help you with.

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Speaker 12: Yes, I were on my computer doing Zoom and I've

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Speaker 12: been having a problem figuring out what's wrung with the audio.

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Speaker 12: At this point, I can hear the person speaking, but

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Speaker 12: they cannot hear me. And I've gone through.

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Speaker 15: All the Zoom fixes of how to fix it. I

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Speaker 15: don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have not contacted Zoom.

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Speaker 15: I've been trying to see but there's a fix. I

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Speaker 15: have had problems previously with the audio, but it's been fixed,

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Speaker 15: and now it's been like three weeks. I've been having

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Speaker 15: a problem.

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Speaker 1: Are you on a Mac or a PC?

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Speaker 7: PC?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And can you record audio on other programs?

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Speaker 15: Actually I had another program and it was working fine,

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Speaker 15: and all of a sudden it went out.

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Speaker 8: The same way.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Well that.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it's a computer problem and not a Zoom problem.

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Speaker 1: So there's a website called mic tests dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can go there and uh test your microphone to see

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Speaker 1: if it's working. So I would go there. If it's

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Speaker 1: not working, then I would I would look into an

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Speaker 1: external microphone. Have you tried that?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 15: I will.

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Speaker 1: So do you have a do you have a pair

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Speaker 1: of headphones or earbuds or any sort of external microphone.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I've been using those. Those don't work either. That

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Speaker 15: At first it was the earbuds, and then the earbuds

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Speaker 15: went out, and then I was just using the computer

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Speaker 15: and it worked for a while and then that went out.

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Speaker 1: Hmm okay, so so and how how old is this computer?

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Speaker 3: Two years old?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that shouldn't be happening. So and you're running

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Speaker 1: Windows on this yes, okay. So have you tried to

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Speaker 1: do the mic tests in a different like in a

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Speaker 1: different program like this website I was talking about.

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Speaker 15: Uh No, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think yeah, I think that would be because

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Speaker 1: I think what you need to do is you need

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Speaker 1: to narrow down if this is a computer hardware problem

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Speaker 1: or if this is a software problem. It sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like this is a hardware problem if none of

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Speaker 1: these mics are working. Now, when you say you've tried

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Speaker 1: different mics you've tried, are they all plug in or

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Speaker 1: they bluetooth?

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Speaker 5: What type are they plug in?

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Speaker 1: And you're plugging him into the same thing USB.

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Speaker 15: Or what I'm plugging him into the computer.

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Speaker 1: Like through does it look like a headphone jack plug

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Speaker 1: or does it look like a USB plug.

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Speaker 15: A headphone jack plug.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I would if I were you,

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Speaker 1: I would try to get a inexpensive USB mic and

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Speaker 1: I would try that and see what happens, because I

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Speaker 1: think that it sounds like this headphone jack is either

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Speaker 1: wonky or it's just not working properly. But you can

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Speaker 1: get a USB mic if you go. You can go

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Speaker 1: to best Buy, or you can go to Amazon. I

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: mean there's I'm at them right now. On Amazon, you

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01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: can get one for sixteen bucks. So I would probably

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Speaker 1: try a USB mic because I think that that's going

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Speaker 1: to be that'll get you around this other issue of

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Speaker 1: this microphone plugin situation. Now here's my other question. Does

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Speaker 1: your computer have a built in microphone? Yep?

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Speaker 15: And I've been trying and if that was working for

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Speaker 15: a while and now it's not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the part I was trying to say, And you

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Speaker 1: do know on Zoom there is an area where you

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Speaker 1: can oh, just you can hear my zoom. You don't

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Speaker 1: know on Zoom there is a way to select your microphone.

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Speaker 1: And you've tried that and switched between the different mics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's not working. Interesting, Okay, I would try to

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Speaker 1: narrow down if this is hardware software. Sounds like it's

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Speaker 1: a hardware issue. If you ask me, I think that

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Speaker 1: you should try an external USB MIC and see if

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Speaker 1: that works. But try this this website first, this mic

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Speaker 1: test website, and do that and then see if your

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Speaker 1: MIC is detected if it's you know, actually going into

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Speaker 1: the computer with the audio, and that's the first place

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Speaker 1: I would start if it. If it doesn't work there,

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Speaker 1: then the microphones that you're having and that's that jack

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Speaker 1: on your computer is just not working anymore. What concerns

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Speaker 1: me is the fact that the computer microphone also doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: so there's something a little funky there. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any apps that are interfering with this, like any sort

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Speaker 1: of audio routing apps?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: No, okay, uh yeah, so that's what I would say.

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Speaker 1: I would say, you got to figure out if this

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Speaker 1: is hardware or software. But I would say try the

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Speaker 1: USB mic see if that works, because USB is pretty

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Speaker 1: direct and uh, I think that that's probably the best

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Speaker 1: way to get this to work again if it's not

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Speaker 1: working through the standard headphone jack. So uh, keep me posted. Carrie.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call today. If you have a question,

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Speaker 1: give me a call at Triple eight. Rich one on

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. There's nothing more frustrating then something not working

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Speaker 1: on your computer, like a microphone, and you're just sitting

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01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: there trying and trying and trying and plugging and unplugging.

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Speaker 1: It happens to the best of us. You are listening

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talk in technology with you at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. You know I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: this before, but I'm always testing something new. So this

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Speaker 1: week I've been testing the Pixel fold, which is Google's

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Speaker 1: foldable smartphone, and I've got to say it's actually pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: It's a great it's it feels like a passport, like

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Speaker 1: that's the form factor is like a passport. So it's

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: got a screen, nice big screen on the outside and

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: you open it up to a bigger screen on the inside.

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Speaker 1: It's very heavy and very hot, so it runs very

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Speaker 1: very hot for some reason, and it's probably one of

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Speaker 1: the heavier smartphones I've used. But with all that said,

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Speaker 1: it's very endearing. It is a very very endearing phone,

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Speaker 1: and it better be for eighteen hundred dollars. But it is.

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: It's a nice little device. It takes good pictures.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm still forming my opinions on it, but and I

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's for everyone. And I think that Google

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01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: has some work to do with their processor and figuring

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: out how to make it run a little bit cooler.

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: But the software is just incredible. The software that Google

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Speaker 1: does on this pixel is really really incredible. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to rich Demiro here on Rich on Tech. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open at triple eight Rich one oh one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: I'm also I just got this today. It's called fabric

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Speaker 1: fab ri c dot so and this is one of

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Speaker 1: those kind of like everything all at once bookmarking services.

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Speaker 1: So you can just put like a link in there,

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Speaker 1: you can put a photo, and then you can search everything,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a smart search. And then

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: later on they're gonna have connections so you can search

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: all of your stuff, like Google Drive will be included,

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01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: your bookmarks, your notion, your dropbox, your screenshots, your email,

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: your text messages, so your history on Chrome. So they've got,

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Speaker 1: you know, all these connections. They're going to add soon.

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: So basically be like a search engine for all of

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Speaker 1: your own stuff that you remember. That's called fabric fabric

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Speaker 1: dot so and I've been testing that. What else I've

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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: been testing so many little things. Oh, a new car

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: this week, the Nissan Aria. It's an ev We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to our I'm gonna talk to my guests about that.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Emily dry Belbis, electric vehicle reporter for PC

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Speaker 1: mag will be joining us this hour. She can talk.

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk. I've got a little bone to pick

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: with evs because charging a non Tesla is not as

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: easy as I thought, and we're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 1: with her as well. Let's see. AT and T has

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01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: a new thing called Internet Air. This is a home

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: Wi Fi that is delivered over a wireless network. You

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Speaker 1: can install this in your house in less than fifteen minutes. Now,

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Speaker 1: you may say, Rich, I already know that T Mobile

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: has this and Verizon has this. Yes, but now AT

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: and T has it. And it's a good thing that

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01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: these companies all have this because it gives some competition

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: to the cable companies that service your house. Traditionally, homes

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: have like one, maybe two options for Internet. Most of

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Speaker 1: the time's either your phone company or your cable company,

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Speaker 1: or both. If you're lucky, now you have a third option.

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Speaker 1: But in many cases it's also a phone company because

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Speaker 1: it's AT and T, Verizon or T Mobile. So what

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Speaker 1: they're doing is they're using these strong five G networks

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: that they have to supply internet to your house. So

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: you get this box, it's called the Internet Air. You

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: scan the QR code and then you set up the

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01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: box near your your strongest area of the house with

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: your five G signal. They have a little app that

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: tells you how to find that, and then you turn

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01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: on the box and it takes the five G wireless

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: signal and it broadcasts it out as Wi Fi. So

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01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: it's very similar to having the Internet come through a

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01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: cable to your house, but it's just delivered wirelessly. And

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: I know it's confusing, you say, Rich, why not just

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: use the five G signal. Well, it's easier to have

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: your devices connecting to a Wi Fi signal than a

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: five G signal because not all of them could do that.

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: AT and T Internet Air is available in parts of

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Pennsylvania, Las Vegas, Phoenix, specifically Prescott

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: let's see Chicago, Detroit, Michigan, New Haven, Minneapolis, Portland, Salt

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: Lake City, Seattle, and Tampa, Florida. So if you're in

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01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: one of those places, this is fifty five dollars a month.

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: There are no overage fees, there's no price increase at

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01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: twelve months, let's see, no annual contract. And if you

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,919
Speaker 1: qualify for this Affordable Connectivity Program, that's the government program

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 1: that'll give you thirty dollars off a month. Basically, if

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: you're on Snap or some sort of government assistance, you

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: can qualify for that ACP program that'll give you thirty

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: dollars off the price of this. So I think this

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01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: is a great thing. I have not tested it yet.

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: AT and T is supposedly going to send me one

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: to test. We'll see, but I have tested the one

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: from Verizon and it works as advertised. And the downside

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: is really just the speed of the service. So you're

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: limited by the speed of what the five G signal

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: that comes into your house offers. So what I would

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: do if this is available at your house, whether it's

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: T Mobile, Verizon, or AT and T, check the speed

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01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: on your phone using either fast dot com or an

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: app called Medior met Eo r Medior Speed app that

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: will that will test the speed of your Internet connection.

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: So if you have AT and T, go ahead and

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: test the signal on your phone. That'll give you an

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: indication of how fast this might be. If you have Verizon,

1545
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: test the signal on your phone. If you have T Mobile,

1546
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: test the signal on your phone. If you want to

1547
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: switch to one of these other companies and get you know,

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: your Internet from AT and T. When you have a

1549
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: friend over, I know it's a nerdy thing to do,

1550
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: but say, hey, can I test the speed on your

1551
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: phone to see what it's like? Because I'm curious about this.

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Paul Paul's in Long Beach.

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: You're on with Rich.

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic.

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01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 10: I love your show and your Katla segments are very informative.

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01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. That is my goal. That is my one

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: goal is to uh to help people. So what can

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: I help you with?

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01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 10: Well, you're just talking about internet and I have the

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 10: traditional cable model along with you know, TV at home,

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 10: and the price just keeps going up and I'm looking to,

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01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 10: you know, look at an alternative, but just want to

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 10: how really good they are. I've had people try the

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01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 10: wireless ones and they weren't impressed with it, But maybe

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 10: that's just based on their signal in that area.

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it comes down to the

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01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: signal that you get and what you need to do.

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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: Like for me personally, I couldn't use one of these

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01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: things because I'm uploading and downloading video all day long

1570
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: with my job, you know, like my KTLA segments were

1571
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: always exchanging stuff on Dropbox that are like five ten

1572
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty gigabyte files which take a while to upload. Now

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01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: I've got a thousand speed on my Internet which is

1574
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: up and down, so it's extremely fast. But does anyone

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01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: else need that? No, most people, unless you're a video editor,

1576
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: you do not need that sort of speed up and down.

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01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: So I think for many people the wireless does work

1578
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: if you are just using you know, Netflix, and you're

1579
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: just surfing the web and you're doing your email and

1580
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: you're doing your zooms, as long as you have a

1581
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: good signal. If you don't have a good signal, like

1582
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: if your cell phone is spotty in your house, this

1583
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 1: is going to be spotty. Now it's going to probably

1584
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: pull down a little bit of a better signal just

1585
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: because it's a box that's dedicated with a better antenna

1586
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: than your phone, you know, your phone. Even though it's

1587
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: it's pulling in a good signal, it is regulated by

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01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: how much you know radio frequency. It wants to emit

1589
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: and also capture, so it's not going to be the strongest.

1590
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: You don't want this thing that's like, you know, as

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01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: strong as a dedicated box in your pocket because it,

1592
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, it may not be safe. So what what

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: are you looking to change your Internet? Or are you

1594
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: looking to change your cable TV? Which are all the above?

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe all above. I'm just trying to figure out

1596
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 10: the best way to consume that kind of stuff now,

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01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 10: and just based upon what we watch, and uh, you know,

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01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 10: we do stream some We use Disney Plus and Paramount

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 10: Plus and we have Amazon Prime, but we do watch

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 10: network TVs. So I guess there's ways to get around that.

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 10: But I guess maybe looking at what some coming down

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 10: the future too, is perhaps satellite what yeah, in the air.

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01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: Yes, starlink, but I mean starlink at this point is

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: really for people who are in a more rural area

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: or in a place that's not serviced. You're in Long Beach,

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: so I assume what you have a cable company and

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: any do you have more than one provider to your home.

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 10: No, yeah, they all.

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01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 8: About the same.

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 10: I have both Spectrum in Frontier available.

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have two available, which is good, so

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01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: that means you can play them off each other. But

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01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: the problem is these cable companies know they've got us,

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01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: and they know there's not many options. They're not doing

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01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: as many deals as they used to do. But when

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01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: it comes to options, look, if you want like a

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: cable alternative, I think a really good option is is YouTube.

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: TV is probably the most popular. It's got unlimited V

1619
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: got all the channels, including the local channels. I just

1620
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: think it's too expensive unless you are consuming a lot

1621
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: of TV and then you by the way, also sports

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01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: is the trickiest thing about getting you know, these streaming services,

1623
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: because you either have to have the cable or you know,

1624
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: like if you like the Clippers, they have their own service.

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of different factors when it

1626
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: comes to what you watch. I think is the biggest

1627
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: issue when it comes to switching to just sort of

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: a streaming service. Now, for me personally, I switched to

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: streaming about I'd say maybe four or five years ago,

1630
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: and it was a big decision and my wife was

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: very much against it because it's very complicated and she saw,

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01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, like me Chrome casting stuff to the TV,

1633
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: and I decided none of that. But now it's pretty easy.

1634
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: You've got Netflix, you've got Hulu, you've got Prime Video.

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Like you said, you've got Paramount, so you can get

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of the movies and things and content. It

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01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: just really comes down to the traditional network television that

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: you want to watch those shows, and also the cable

1639
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 1: shows and also sports. So I think when you decide

1640
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: to make that jump, you have to figure out what

1641
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: you want to watch and do your research and see

1642
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: if you can get those on streaming. For instance, if

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01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: you're a big sports fan, a lot of the sports

1644
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: in many cities are not on a dedicated streaming service.

1645
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Some cities have it, some cities don't, and so that

1646
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: really comes into play whether you want to subscribe to

1647
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: like an NBA League Pass or something like that, but

1648
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: even with that, you may not get the local games.

1649
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: So there are many, many considerations when it comes to streaming.

1650
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: I think, both for Internet and when it comes to

1651
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: your television service. At the end, of the day. If

1652
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: you're watching a ton of stuff and you like a

1653
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: bunch of shows on the traditional cable networks, it may

1654
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: just be cheaper to go ahead and do a bundle.

1655
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: But otherwise, if you want to piecemeal it together and

1656
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: subscribe one thing here, one thing there, it can be cheaper.

1657
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: But when you cancel that cable service, many times your

1658
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: internet price will go up. So that's when these other

1659
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: alternatives like the the air, you know, the wireless internet

1660
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: services may work because T Mobile, Verizon, AT and T

1661
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: they're really trying to push these new ways of getting Internet,

1662
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: so they're giving you a deal right now, and it's

1663
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: a little bit cheaper, but the signal may not be

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01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: as strong or may not be as fast. Triple eight

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01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one is the phone number. This

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here. Yeah, it's my birthday week. I call

1669
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: it birthday week because we've been celebrating for a while now,

1670
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: can you tell now, I'm just kidding. Counting Crows one

1671
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: of my all time favorite bands. They're actually playing in

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: the LA area like right now, and anyway, we didn't

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: get tickets, so wampwomp for made. We have a wamp

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01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: womp sound. Let's go to Andrea in h Are you

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01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Andrea in LA or Louisiana a Los Angeles? Okay? Says

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: la here. When I lived in Louisiana and I say la,

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01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: it meant like when I see the letters, it meant

1678
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: something different. But you know, anyway, what can I help

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01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: you with? Welcome to the show?

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 16: Thank you. I have an iPhone and I believe I

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01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 16: need to replace the battery and when I called Apple,

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01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 16: they said that I need to back up everything on

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01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 16: the iCloud. So what are my options besides the iCloud.

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01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Ah, you don't like the cloud or what I've.

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01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 16: Never had it. I just don't want to get involved

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 16: with it. And then if I want to get off

1687
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 16: the cloud, how would I do that?

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01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible. Once you're on. It's like the Hotel California.

1689
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: You can check in, but you can't check out. It's

1690
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: really tough, and of course they want you know. And

1691
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: the cloud is great because it's all backed up and

1692
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: it's simple and it's all wireless, but it does have

1693
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: its downsides. It gets cluttered, you can't find stuff. You

1694
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: don't know where you stand. You don't know if things

1695
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: are actually backed up, so you kind of have to

1696
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: stay on top of those things. You are sending in

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01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: your phone for service.

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01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 16: Is that what I'm bringing it?

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: You're bringing it and they said basically that it could

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01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: come back wiped clean.

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01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 16: Right, Well, I thought I would wait there, but.

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 1: Maybe not uh oh at the Apple store. Yeah, I

1703
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: mean it depends. You may. But here's the deal. I mean,

1704
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: no matter what, when you bring in any device to

1705
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: get fixed, you always want to have a backup of

1706
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: it because there is a chance that they will have

1707
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: to either wipe it clean or they may replace the

1708
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: drive on it. You just don't know, so you always

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01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: want to have a backup. What do you have on

1710
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: your phone that you need to back up?

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01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 16: Photos?

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01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Okay, just photos?

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 16: Well, I don't know what would be wiped clean, Like

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 16: would my email stay there?

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01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Emails are generally linked to your email account, so those

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01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: would probably come back if you logged back in. For

1717
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: most people, I would say the main thing on your

1718
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: phone would be your photos. Your contacts are generally in

1719
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: the cloud already through your service provider, whether it's Gmail

1720
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: or Yahoo or whoever you're using a lot of times

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01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: your contacts are linked to them. So if it's just photos,

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01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things you could do. Do you

1723
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: have a computer?

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01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 16: I haven't used it in years?

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01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so that may not be the best

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01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: solution then, So I think without a computer that if

1727
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: you don't want to plug this into a computer, the

1728
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: way you could back up photos is with a USB drive.

1729
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: How long do you have to get this figured out?

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 16: Hours?

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01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: Hours? Oh? Okay, but I can change that, okay. I mean,

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01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: if you're I think the cloud might be the easiest

1733
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: way to do this. Now, you don't have to use

1734
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: iCloud per se. Are you an Amazon Prime member by

1735
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: any chance?

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01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:44,839
Speaker 16: No?

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01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean there's many ways to back up photos

1738
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: that don't use Do you have Google?

1739
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 16: Do I have Google?

1740
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Like? Do you use like Gmail at all?

1741
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 16: I have something that I've never used. Well, I haven't

1742
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 16: used it in like years.

1743
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

1744
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think without going through the cloud, you're

1745
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: gonna have to either plug something into this phone, which

1746
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: is a USB drive. So I like one from sand Disk.

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01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: There's also one from pmy. What's did you say you

1748
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: have one of those? What a USB drive?

1749
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 16: Well, there's one in the computer.

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01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but it may not plug into the bottom

1751
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: of your phone because it's your bottom of your phone

1752
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 1: is lightning and the computer is probably USB. So unless

1753
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: you had a specific lightning USB drive, it would not

1754
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: work with your phone. So I think the easiest way,

1755
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: there's two things you could do. I think the easiest

1756
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: way is to plug this into your computer and use

1757
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: iTunes to just make a complete backup of this device.

1758
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: That is the easiest way to do it. If you

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01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, there's an you know, if

1760
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: you don't want to use iTunes and you don't want

1761
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to use your computer. The other way is really a

1762
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: flash drive, and you can plug the flash drive into

1763
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: the bottom of the phone. But you're gonna have to

1764
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: get one of those. So if you can go to

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01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: like best Buy and look for either the sand Disc,

1766
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: you need what's called a lightning USB drive, So it's

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01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: the brand from sand Disc is called I expand the

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01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: letter I expand, and then pn Y has one as well,

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01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: and pn Y is again but it's brand new, so

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01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: they may not have in the stores just yet. But

1771
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: again you need what's called a lightning to a lightning

1772
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: flash drive. So if you go into the store and

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01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: ask for that, you can plug that into the bottom

1774
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,919
Speaker 1: of your phone and then use the software to download

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01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: the photos onto that flash drive. That's probably the best

1776
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: way to do it. If you don't want to do that,

1777
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I think that a backup using Google Photos would work well.

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01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: There's also a website called i drive which is really

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01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: fast and easy. I might just use that. You can

1780
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: download the app for i drive and download your photos

1781
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: to there and they'll be backed up. It's in the cloud.

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: You didn't want the cloud, but those are the two

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01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: best ways to do it. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: technology with you at triple eight Rich one oh one.

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Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to

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Speaker 1: one zero one on the line. Emily dry Beelbis, electric

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Speaker 1: vehicle reporter for PC mag Emily, thanks so much for

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01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: joining me today.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Rich.

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01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: So you cover all sorts of electric cars. We actually

1792
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: met at a show out here called what was it

1793
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: electrify something, Yeah, Electrify Expo, which was really cool. They

1794
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: had like almost every sort of car on display. Like

1795
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're in the in the market for like an

1796
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: electric car. It was like, not just that, but it's

1797
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: like bikes and scooters and every kind of thing.

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01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 17: So yeah, I think we met when I was going

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01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 17: around the track on the electric motorcycle.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the one that I wouldn't go on because I

1801
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: had to like sign a wave and it was like

1802
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: too much effort. So I was like, never mind, I'll

1803
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,440
Speaker 1: just you know, So, let's talk about this whole situation

1804
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: with electric cars. Where do you see kind of the

1805
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: state of the union with EV's, because I'm always talking

1806
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: about them on the show. I live in California, which

1807
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: has a ton of them. Where do you think we're at?

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01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, so there are some numbers recently on the state

1809
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 13: of the union with the EV's.

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01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 17: In the past couple of years, adoption rate has been

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01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 17: doubling and kind of going up really quickly, almost exponentially,

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01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 17: And they look at it in terms of new car sales.

1813
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 17: So maybe five years ago it was one two three

1814
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 17: percent of new cars for EV's and this year it

1815
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 17: hit seven percent, which is quite a jump. But I

1816
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 17: will say it kind of stagnated and the seven percent

1817
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 17: number we hit in January and it was still seven

1818
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 17: percent later in the year.

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01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 13: More recently, so we are.

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01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 17: A little bit at people are wondering, are the early

1821
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 17: adopters through and it's next step to be mass production,

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01:32:59,240 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 17: mass market.

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01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 13: That's what all the.

1824
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 17: Car companies I talk to are talking about. I talked

1825
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 17: with Ford, Kia, Nissan, GM, all of them are kind

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01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 17: of talking about, all right, it's ready to figure out

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01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:14,520
Speaker 17: what evs need to be applicable and useful and enjoyable

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01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 17: for the rest of the population that's not those early adopters.

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01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 13: So I would say that's where we're at.

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01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the big concerns, well, there's

1831
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: probably two concerns. Number one is the technology, like is

1832
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: it ready? Am I getting a car that's going to

1833
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: be you know, useful in five ten years? And then

1834
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 1: also the charging situation. Now, I feel like the charging

1835
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: situation is twofold. If you are commuting to and from

1836
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: work and you have a charger at home or at work,

1837
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: you're going to be fine with pretty much any car

1838
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: because you can charge. You know, if you're just commuting,

1839
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: it's not unless you're commuting like three hundred miles a day,

1840
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: you're going to be fine. Now, when it comes to

1841
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: road trips, that is a different world. Entirely. And I

1842
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: do feel like, and I think that this was reinforced

1843
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: this week with my test drives, that Tesla is really

1844
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the only game when it to road trips at this point.

1845
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: And you can debate me on this, but I feel

1846
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 1: like it's really tricky to go on a road trip

1847
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: in a non Tesla because of the charging situation. What

1848
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: do you think of that?

1849
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 13: I would agree, Yeah, of course you can do it.

1850
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 17: It's just the the infuriation of going to a charging

1851
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 17: station and not working for you, and then doing that

1852
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 17: over and over again is just going to bring you

1853
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 17: down on the road trip. And of course you're traveling,

1854
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 17: you have a million other logistics. The last thing you

1855
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 17: want to think about is how to power the actual car.

1856
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 17: You just want to get it done and keep moving,

1857
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 17: and I will say Tesla is probably our.

1858
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 11: Best bet for that.

1859
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: So I've been testing this Nissan Aria, which is a

1860
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: great car. I love it. It's really really nice. It's

1861
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: kind of like a Nissan Rogue. It's a crossover suv

1862
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: and it gets three hundred miles, which I think is

1863
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: the sweet spot for mile edge at this point. I'm

1864
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: sure you know five hundred and six hundred be nice,

1865
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: but three hundred. Really, I've had no range anxiety. But

1866
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: when I've gone to charge this car, I'm not kidding,

1867
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: I've been I went yesterday to three different charging stations.

1868
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,799
Speaker 1: The first one I couldn't get to work. The second

1869
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: and the two fast chargers were used, and then the

1870
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: second one the charger was broken. It was like out

1871
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: of service, and the other chargers were in use. And

1872
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: then the third time, both chargers were in use. And

1873
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: because you're not doing supercharging, these chargers sometimes take a

1874
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: little bit longer. And so I realized the frustration of like,

1875
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: here I am talking about these electric cars and how

1876
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: great they are. But if you're getting one of these

1877
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: cars and you're spending a lot of money on it,

1878
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're not you know,

1879
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: you're not charging at home or you think you can

1880
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: do this, it could be really, really frustrating.

1881
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, I had the same experience, So it was funny

1882
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 17: you said that. So yesterday I have an aud EQ

1883
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 17: eight E trond right.

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01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 13: Now, beautiful car.

1885
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 17: I think it's the top trim, so I think it's

1886
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 17: eighty or eighty five thousand dollars. It comes with two

1887
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 17: years free charging with electric five America, which is an

1888
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 17: awesome perk. Anyone who wants to buy and ev should

1889
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 17: look at these types of promotions. You don't have to

1890
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 17: buy an eighty five thousand dollars car to get that.

1891
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 17: So that's and there's a target near my apartment that

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01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 17: has eleven Electric America stations. Okay, cool, I'm gonna go charge.

1893
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 17: We're gonna go get some groceries, no big deal. And

1894
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 17: I get there in all the stations, all eleven are

1895
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 17: just out to get for maintenance and improvements. And the

1896
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 17: issue there is, you know, I navigated there on Google Maps,

1897
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 17: and Google doesn't know that they're that they're out. So

1898
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 17: we have kind of an app component to it as well,

1899
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 17: and you know, the vehicle navigation needs to know that

1900
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 17: Google if you use that other apps like plug share,

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01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 17: So there's a lot of factors that go into what

1902
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 17: charger you choose and kind of how it works with

1903
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 17: your car, the port, and then why you go there,

1904
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 17: what you want to do when you're charging. So that

1905
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 17: one didn't work on a good day, that would have

1906
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 17: been a fantastic option for me. And then I also

1907
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 17: went to two others and the other one was in

1908
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 17: a parking garage, and I had to get a ticket

1909
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 17: and everything.

1910
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 13: I was desperate at this point. It was my third

1911
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 13: one I had to pay to get in a garage.

1912
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 17: So I actually just turned around and went back home

1913
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 17: with less at charge than I even had when I

1914
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 17: set out to charge.

1915
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 13: So demoralizing for sure.

1916
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: That is so frustrating. Now it's getting better. I did

1917
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 1: see because I was using I don't know which Google

1918
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 1: Maps you were using. I was using it on Android

1919
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: on this car that I was testing, and it did

1920
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: seem to have some like live data about the charging station,

1921
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: so it seemed like it was not for all of them,

1922
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: but it did say like zero of two or something,

1923
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: so it seemed to be getting some sort of live data.

1924
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: The other thing that I noticed is that, and this

1925
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: really really bugs me, Please car manufacturers, there should not

1926
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: be an icon for gas stations, like on the main

1927
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: screen on your built in navigation software. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: My wife is debating me. She's like, well, maybe you

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Speaker 1: want to find a restroom or like a soda. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like bad form, like show

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Speaker 1: me ev stations, Like I don't know anyway, So do

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Speaker 1: we feel like the battery tech is getting better because

1933
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Speaker 1: people always you know, we've seen the cars, they've been

1934
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Speaker 1: around for a while. Is battery technology getting better, Yes,

1935
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 13: And the interesting thing about range is that it's not

1937
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 13: all about the battery.

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Speaker 17: So what these cars our companies are doing is they're

1939
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 17: learning how to connect the motor and the software.

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Speaker 13: To the battery. So there's a lot of different areas

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Speaker 13: you can see range improvements.

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Speaker 11: It could just be a.

1943
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 13: Software update in your cargets ten more miles.

1944
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Speaker 17: It could be something that they figure out in the

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01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 17: production line that will make the motor connect to the

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01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 17: battery in a different.

1947
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Speaker 13: Way, and okay, you get twenty more miles.

1948
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Speaker 17: But of course the biggest jumps are going to be

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Speaker 17: from the battery technology.

1950
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Speaker 13: And what I'm.

1951
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,759
Speaker 17: Seeing really is that China is far, far, far ahead

1952
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 17: of the US. And this can be hard to wrap

1953
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 17: our minds around for the average American in some ways.

1954
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 17: But I write about what they're doing with battery technology,

1955
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 17: and it's just far and away what we have going

1956
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 17: on here. I don't hear announcements from US automakers like

1957
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 17: I do from.

1958
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Speaker 13: Battery makers in China.

1959
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 17: So they are cooking up batteries that are going to

1960
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,799
Speaker 17: go in EBS there that can go six hundred miles

1961
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 17: on charge. I just heard another announcement from CAATL they

1962
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 17: made a battery that can charge I think.

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01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 13: It was two hundred and fifty miles and ten minutes.

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01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 17: So that's of the cars on the road have two

1965
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 17: hundred and fifty miles range.

1966
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,839
Speaker 13: You're saying you can charge it in ten minutes.

1967
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,799
Speaker 17: And these are still future technologies, but they are listing

1968
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 17: models that will have these new batteries, and that is

1969
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 17: far ahead of what we're hearing in the US. And

1970
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 17: then COATL I just mentioned they've partnered with four to

1971
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 17: build a plant in Michigan using their battery technologies. So

1972
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 17: we're kind of seeing some overseas innovation with batteries. Nissan,

1973
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 17: not Nissan, actually Toyota and Honda have had breakthroughs, so

1974
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 17: I mean Chinese battery makers and then Toyota, Honda. That's

1975
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 17: where I'm hearing the big battery announcements, and it seems

1976
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 17: like at least in the short term, US automakers will

1977
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 17: be partnering with them for those big advancements. And then

1978
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 17: Biden has allocated billions of dollars to stimulate US battery production.

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01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,799
Speaker 17: Because we are so far behind, and we get ninety

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Speaker 17: five ninety seven percent of our batteries are from overseas,

1981
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 17: so we have brilliant engineers in the US. We do

1982
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 17: have startups working on fantastic technology. We are just a

1983
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 17: little bit far behind, and we will be partnering probably

1984
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 17: with overseas companies who are doing an amazing job with

1985
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 17: the technology. So we could benefit from that, and I

1986
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 17: think probably in the next maybe five.

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01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 13: Years, we could start to see some of that. Certainly

1988
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 13: in ten years.

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Speaker 1: I've got about a minute. What You've seen a lot

1990
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: of cars, you test drive a lot of stuff. What

1991
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 1: are you excited about right now? What's kind of like

1992
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: exciting in the EV space.

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Speaker 17: I'm always looking for evs that are getting cheaper with

1994
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 17: better battery performance. So in PC mag I maintain a

1995
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 17: list of eb's under forty thousand dollars. I love adding

1996
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 17: new cars to that list. I think that is the

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01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 17: most exciting. It's great to have a huge EV that

1998
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 17: costs two hundred thousand dollars. We've seen that before. What

1999
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 17: I get excited about is a new car like the

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01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 17: Volvo Ex thirty, which is thirty five k and has

2001
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 17: great range. So any car under forty k I am

2002
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 17: all in on it and.

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01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 13: That's what gets me going.

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Speaker 1: All right, Emily dry Belbis, electric vehicle reporter for PC mag,

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01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.

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01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,919
Speaker 1: Thanks rich all right, I'm gonna put a link to

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01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: the forty evs under forty thousand dollars on the PCMAC website.

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01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll put that online at richontech dot tv. Coming up,

2009
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna close out the show, and of course it's

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Speaker 1: your favorite segment, the feedback segment, all the stuff that

2011
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: you've emailed me throughout the week. I'll be reading it.

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Speaker 1: For better or for worse, rich on Tech come back

2013
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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech, closing out

2014
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Speaker 1: the show here with your feedback. If you like the show,

2015
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: you can follow me on social media at rich on Tech.

2016
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram, Facebook x formerly, Twitter, and threads. You

2017
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: can also listen to this show as a podcast. Just

2018
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: go to rich on Tech dot tv, click the podcast

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01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: icon and you can subscribe there. I also have show

2020
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: notes for the show and you can watch my TV

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01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: segments on the website. Yes, I do TV segments as well.

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01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: So get through a couple of news items before we

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01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: get to the feedback. As promised, Samsung has a special

2024
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 1: TV for Disney fans celebrating Disney's one hundredth anniversary with

2025
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 1: a special edition of the Frame. The Frame is a

2026
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: TV that displays artwork when it's not in use, and

2027
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: it looks like real artwork. I mean, this thing, if

2028
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: you've seen it in person, is very, very impressive. It's

2029
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: available in sixty five, fifty sorry, fifty five, sixty five

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01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: and seventy five.

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01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 2: Ah, there we go.

2032
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Speaker 1: Oh it's Disney's Wait is it Disney's birthday? I guess

2033
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's for me. Oh that's for me, thank you. Yes,

2034
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: it is my birthday week. I'm running out of here

2035
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: to go have a birthday dinner. Actually, let's see Disney's

2036
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: one hundredth anniversary. The frame has it gets one hundred

2037
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: special pieces of artwork from the Disney collection, a Mickey

2038
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Mouse inspired remote, and do I have a price on

2039
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: this thing? I don't have the price anyway. Limited edition

2040
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: while so applies last, Samsung dot Com, slash US, slash Disney,

2041
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: and Best Buy Atari bringing back the twenty six hundred

2042
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: with a recreation The twenty six hundred plus a recreation

2043
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: of the console that first appeared in nineteen eighty will

2044
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 1: be launching worldwide on November seventeenth for one hundred and

2045
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. It'll include ten games. It looks just like

2046
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 1: the original. It actually uses the same cartridge slot. And

2047
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: this is the coolest part. I think that the original

2048
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: cartridges will plug into this new machine. So if you

2049
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: have some old Atari twenty six hundred or seventy eight

2050
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: hundred cartridges, they will work with this machine, which is

2051
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Then the cartridge it comes with has ten

2052
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: games built in, including Adventure, Combat, Dodgeum, Haunted House, Mays, Craze,

2053
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Missile Command, Real Sports, Volleyball, Surround Video, Pinball, and Yars Revenge.

2054
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: Does not include Pong. Was that not on the original?

2055
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was. It also has some modern necessity

2056
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: like an HDMI output and USB, plus a recreation of

2057
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: the original c X forty plus joystick. And finally I

2058
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: tested this out Samsung. Remember a couple of weeks ago

2059
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: I did the Apple AI Voice clone. Well, now Samsung

2060
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: has it. So if you have a Samsung Galaxy and

2061
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: it's got the latest software, you can train Bixby on

2062
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 1: your voice and then you can have the voice assistant

2063
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 1: talk in your voice.

2064
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 15: Now.

2065
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why you'd want your phone talking back

2066
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: to you and your voice, but you can do it.

2067
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: So how to do it? Open the bix b app.

2068
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: I know it's probably the first time you've ever opened

2069
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: that app in your life. Go to settings, Language and

2070
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: voice style, and then create custom voice. You only have

2071
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: to record like you saying ten things, and it takes

2072
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: about five minutes to create your voice. You can hear

2073
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: online on my Instagram at rich on Tech. It does

2074
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: not sound like me at all, So it didn't really

2075
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: work that well, but you know, it's a start, and

2076
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 1: it's just kind of fun. I mean, your results may vary.

2077
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Maybe my voice is just not as clonable. All right,

2078
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: let's see. Can I get to a couple things people said?

2079
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: Jet says, Verizon's offering me seven hundred dollars for my

2080
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: iPhone thirteen? Should I trade it in or wait until

2081
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: the new iPhones come out? Wait, don't buy iPhones right now,

2082
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 1: just wait every either deals will get better, the price

2083
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: will come down. Just Senda says. Cox has two different

2084
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: affordable Connectivity programs. One is ACP, which can be applied

2085
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: to any Cox Internet. Then there are several different level programs.

2086
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 1: COX will assist with under Connect Assist and Connect to Compete.

2087
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: One of the benefits includes one hundred dollars off a laptop.

2088
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Cox recently increased the broadband speed with no additional charge.

2089
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Their customers just send to I don't know if you

2090
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: work for Cox or what, but thank you for the

2091
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: public service announcement, so ask for those discounts. David says,

2092
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: what's the best site for NFL on TV? Ooh, at

2093
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: this point, it's YouTube TV. They got the exclusive rights

2094
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: to Sunday tickets, so that's probably the best place at

2095
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: this point. Richie said as evs. Electrify America has its

2096
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: own app which shows if the charger is in use

2097
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: or not, making it easier to choose where to go. Yes,

2098
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: that is true, but I've also found like last night

2099
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 1: we went to the Electrify America stations, it was like

2100
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: a it reminded me of like a fifties like what

2101
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: are those places called, like where they the people on

2102
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: skates roller skates like a whatever? That's you know, like

2103
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: what bobo, what are those called?

2104
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 3: No?

2105
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like remember like the fifties, like the

2106
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: place where you go outside and there's a car hop.

2107
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 1: That's it. It reminded me of a car hop. There's

2108
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,759
Speaker 1: so many people there. They're all kind of sitting out

2109
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: of their cars waiting to like charge and this and that. Yeah,

2110
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: me either. And I can't even remember what I call

2111
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: a car hop. Yeah. So okay, all right, let's get

2112
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: to some Let's see do I have How long do

2113
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I have here? Four minutes? Okay, so I've got let's see.

2114
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: Barry asks, I want to buy a watch for someone

2115
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 1: with dementia in case they wander. They are elderly. Is

2116
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 1: there a smart watch or device I can keep track

2117
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: of it? She does not have a phone. I would

2118
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: look into something called the geobit jiob t. This is

2119
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,679
Speaker 1: real time location tracking. It's kind of like an air tag,

2120
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: but with a built in cellular signal. So gobit jiobit

2121
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: I think will be your best bet there. Roger asks,

2122
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: you always have great news. Thank you. I'm looking for

2123
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: a way to get rid of ads on my Android

2124
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: phone without cost. Is there a way? Ooh, great question,

2125
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: And I do have a good way, easiest way I

2126
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: know of. This is built into every Android phone. It's

2127
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: super simple. All you have to do is go to settings,

2128
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Network and Internet Private DNS, private DNS provider host name,

2129
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: and you type in DNS dot adguard dot com and

2130
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: that will block all the ads on your phone without

2131
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,839
Speaker 1: installing any programs. It just has to run your URLs

2132
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: through ad Guard. So obviously do your research and figure

2133
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 1: out if that's something you want to do, because it

2134
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: will send all of the websites that you go to

2135
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: to this website. But that's really easy. Oh my gosh,

2136
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: two minutes yea we go? Was that really two minutes?

2137
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: Let's see?

2138
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 9: Uh?

2139
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: Christina says, hey, Rich, number one fan here. I totally

2140
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 1: disagree with the fellow that stated your explanations were too

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Speaker 1: difficult for the average person to understand. Your show is fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Love how you communicate live via so many modalities, Christina,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Neil says Rich, another great show. The Solar

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Speaker 1: Charger sounds fantastic. I'm shocked you've never used a UPS.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you only have laptops, but in my home, even

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Speaker 1: a one second glitch of power will reboot all of

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Speaker 1: our servers and desktops. Even my TVs have a UPS.

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Speaker 1: Beverly says your show is amazing. My family and I

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Speaker 1: have listened since your first show where you appreciate your

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Speaker 1: informative and entertaining program. You truly have content for every listener.

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Speaker 1: I tell my friends about Rich on Tech and I

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Speaker 1: encourage them to listen. Thank you. And Mark says, hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: listen to you yesterday and was ready for you to

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Speaker 1: make a joke when you aired voicemails the woman asked

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Speaker 1: for a good computer cleaner, and I was waiting for

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Speaker 1: you to say, Windex. You do have a good sense

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Speaker 1: of humor and have done it a yeoman's job of

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Speaker 1: replacing Leo Yeomen. I've never heard that word, have you, Yeoman.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's like a good job, I would assume

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Speaker 1: since it's a nice email. Thank you, Mark. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to make that joke, but I try to be nice.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's see. Oh and finally, oh gosh. I

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Speaker 1: hate to end on a bad note. Ginger and your

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Speaker 1: Blinda says, what happened to your Sunday show? I'm so disappointed.

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Speaker 1: I listen on Saturday and I've looked for you on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Love your show. I don't do much TV. We haven't

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Speaker 1: had a Sunday show since I started. This is only

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Speaker 1: on it depends where you listen. I guess on different

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Speaker 1: stations they play it on different days, but it's only

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Speaker 1: one day a weekend. All right, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this episode. You can find links to everything I

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Speaker 1: mentioned on my website richon Tech dot tv. Next week

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking from Ifa, Berlin. My name is rich Dmiro.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at rich on tech.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways

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Speaker 1: you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes

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Speaker 1: this show possible. I will talk to you real soon