WEBVTT - Draft Experts Rafael Barlowe And Sam Vecenie Break Down The NBA Draft 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.880 You're tuned into Heat Check with Triste Quick. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.559 On this bonus episode of the Heat Check, we're getting 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.280 you ready for draft tonight with even more draft experts. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.920 We've got two heavy hitters here combined into one interviews 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.240 Raffi Obarlow from Locked on NBA Big Board, who I 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.480 subscribe to, who I listen to all year. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.119 I'm super excited to have him on. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.279 And then we have another big heavy hitter in the athletics, 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.479 NBA draft expert, Sam Veseni. He joined me and my 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.479 co host Ryan Horvaught on bet MGM tonight, so I 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.600 wanted to give this information to you as well. Really 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.720 great insight, it's super hard to find this close to 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.040 draft time. Super excited about having them on and providing 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.040 that insight to you. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.760 So let's go, Nick drop that motherfucking beat that should 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:46.280 be Rihanna. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.600 You want to talk some NBA draft I do? 0:00:58.680 --> 0:00:59.279 I think you do. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.040 With our man Rafael Barlow. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:01.920 Let's do that right now. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.280 Rafael, thanks so much for joining us. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.480 Mit, how are you tonight doing? Good man? It's a 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.960 busy time of year, but it's a good time. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.080 I am so happy and excited to have you on. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.400 Thank you for making it work. I know that you're 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.400 doing a bunch of different things. I need first and 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.839 foremost to get your perspective on whether there's a real 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:26.240 smoke screen going on in Charlotte, Because last year, Adrian 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.039 war Janowski put out the day before the draft and 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.479 the morning of the draft that the Magic We're definitely 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.520 taking Jabari Smith, that all signs pointed to him, and 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.520 then an hour before the draft things changed very quickly. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:40.520 And he had to backpedal. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.920 Is there a possibility that's what's happening this year with Charlotte. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.600 Yeah, it's always a possibility. And the funny thing about that, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.880 I spoke to Caylo Bank Caro's mom and dad this 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.040 morning at the official NBA hotel, and then I happened 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:00.480 to introduce them to Brandon Miller's agent, and they just 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.720 kind of had a little joking side conversation about it 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.920 and how at one point it looked like it was 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.680 you know, right now it's looked like it's trending towards 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.640 Brandon Miller, but you just never know until the last minute. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.120 And follow dad I mentioned it was probably like thirty 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.120 minutes before the draft that they knew Polo was going 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.760 number one, So it could be smoke screen, but it 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.399 could definitely change over the next I guess twenty four 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:24.600 hours or a little less than that. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.080 So to you, Raphael, if you were to be a 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.440 betting man, would you still take Brandon Miller. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.840 To go to Yeah? I would. I think Charlotte is 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.079 comfortable with Miller because he's more so a plug and 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.840 play guy. You can put him next to LaMelo Ball 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.760 and while a school it wouldn't be a perfect fit. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.120 Although some people may think that he's the more talented player, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.640 but I think Brandon Miller is the easier fit and 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.160 more versatility, and he's a better shooter, which is one 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.760 of the scoots biggest question marks. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.720 Yeah, you look at the third overall pick, any chance 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.040 anybody other than Scoot then would go third overall? And 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.639 how do you think a possible fit with him and 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:01.679 Dame on the floor would look. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.839 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that fit, and 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.760 it could definitely cause a domino effect with Portland, but 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.040 I do think there is a chance. I wouldn't bet 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.640 on it, but I think there's a chance that, you know, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.400 Portland could really take a long, hard look at i'man 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.840 Thompson also, so it'd be interesting. Just a few months back, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.760 we thought School was a lock to go number two, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.280 and now there's a chance, slim chance, but there is 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.920 a chance that he could fall to number four. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.799 You know, one of the biggest risers in this draft 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.120 Raphael is Kobe Bufkin. I love him, I love his size, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.480 I love his versatility. A bunch of teams have needs 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.400 that he would fit very easily in. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.360 Where do you see. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.800 Him landing, Like what would be his floor and what 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.840 would be his ceiling in terms of like positional draft, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.760 and what do you think explains his rapid rise up 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:52.200 the board? 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.840 Interesting. I had a conversation with his mom earlier today 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.440 and we just kind of talked about how he started 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.560 school early, and so he's really the same age as 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.800 a lot of the freshmen. He's actually younger than his 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.640 teammate Jed Howard. So I think teams are starting to 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.760 take that into account that he is the same age 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.880 as his peers, his freshman peers, but he has two 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.159 years of experience and if he came into this season 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.880 with all the hype that some of the other freshmen had, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.120 then he would be right up there. And that mixed 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.120 to be a lottery pick, which I think he is now, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.040 but he just didn't have that same buzz coming into 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.040 the season. I think his floor might be Atlanta, and 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.920 I've heard from multiple people that he is the type 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.960 of guy that Sam Presty loves to have. But the 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.920 big concern there is like where is their minutes in Okay? See, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.479 they just have a lot of guards there. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:49.080 Yeah. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.039 A quick follow up though, do you think there's a 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.760 possibility maybe that Washington would take him at eight or 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.040 do you think that they're going to go with a 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.839 playmaking guard like Anthony Black. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.400 I think it's a possible ability that they could take 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.920 him at age, but right now it seems like Anthony 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.920 Black is a favorite to go number eight to Washington. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.880 But I mean Washington could end up making some trades 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.920 or some move also, so you just never know. I mean, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.839 I think this is going to be a wild and 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.599 crazy night tomorrow. And it's interesting because this was a 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.280 draft that people thought was really really strong coming in. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.279 But how often do you see a class that is 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.479 considered really strong. And you can say almost all the 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.360 teams in the top ken outside of San Antonio are 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.360 rumored to be looking to possibly move to pick or 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.080 trade up or trade down? 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.680 You think Detroit tries to move the fifth overall pick. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.080 I feel like they would want to. And also, you know, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.520 who do you think the favorite should be to go 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.080 fifth overall? Because for me, that's when the draft really begins, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.120 because I wanted it to be Cam Whitmore really bad. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.640 I got him plus four hundred. He was really chalky. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.920 Now doesn't look like that's going to happen. It looks 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.600 like it's between Thompson and probably Jeris Walker. What do 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:55.839 you think happens at five overall? 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:56.120 Though? 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.360 You know, I don't know if the camp with more 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.960 stuff is small screen, Like they talked about some injuries, 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.400 but he had an injured thumb, Like it's not like 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.160 it's a knee or back. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:06.680 So I have. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.000 Somebody say that it might be smoke strings there. I 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.920 was still taking them at number five. I mean, I 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.440 would even take Cam at number four. If Houston brings 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.719 James Harden along, I just don't think hardened and and 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.839 Thompson would would be the best. It would be the 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.600 best fit. But no, I think it's I think it's 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.560 smoked Spring. I think he's still in the mix at 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.760 five The Jars, Walker talk is interesting because Detroit their 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.320 roster is already unbalanced as is I mean, of course 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.680 they can make some moves, but adding another four five 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.760 to Detroit's roster would be very interesting. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:41.320 Yeah. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:42.400 I was wondering that too. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.480 And you know, Troy Weaver said in his recent pressors 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.560 that their entire goal is to swing for the fences. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.480 If you're swinging for the fences in your Detroit, who 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.559 do you think has the highest upside at five? 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.080 Maybe Thompson nor I mean, I would say cam wickmore, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.760 but maybe a sre time. They could even swing for 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:07.119 defenses with Taylor Hendrick. Taylor reminds me of Jabari Smith 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.359 in the sense, and Javari was a guy everybody thought 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.640 was going to go number one three hundred and sixty 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.840 five days ago. So it's going to be a crazy night. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:21.440 But I think that Detroit is probably gonna ling with 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.160 with more. That would be my guess. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:24.680 What do you think it's a good fit for a 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.040 guy like Jordan Hawkins or even a guy like Grady Dick, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.600 two of the better shooters in the draft. Where do 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.200 you see them going a little bit higher and maybe 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.880 falling a little bit later in the first round. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.520 I think I think one will go in the lottery, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.280 maybe both. I mean, you look at Orlando at eleven 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.920 and Toronto at thirteen. Both of those teams really really 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.320 neat shooting, I really need shooting. Orlando was one of 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.679 the worst teams in the league in three point shooting, 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.800 and then Toronto has a bunch of wings but not 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.080 a lot of wings back in space the floor. So 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.520 I would say I think Grady goes to Orlando, and 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.040 then I would say Jordan Hawkins could go as high 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.320 as thirteen to Toronto. I don't know if he gets 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:06.800 past the Lakers at seventeen. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.960 Interesting, I'm curious your perspective, which player do you think 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.520 Raphael fall outside the lottery but you think ends up 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.920 being the best NBA player long term in that non 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.480 lottery slot. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.920 You know it could be. That's a tough question because 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.160 a guy like Nick Smith could fall outside of the lottery. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.480 I think there's a small chance Kante George could fall 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.080 outside the lottery. But the guy that I'm high on 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.880 I think is going to fall in the late first 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.480 round is Gigi Jackson. And I think as far as 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.760 his talent wise, he's a top ten talent, but he's 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.640 just young. He reclassified up and he's started the season 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.000 off at seventeen. He's only eighteen now, he's only eligible 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.360 to be in his draft by fourteen days. And to 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.880 put into perspective, if Kobe Buffkin try to enter the 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.520 draft last year, he wouldn't have even been mentioned just 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.000 because he started off. You know, he was a young freshman, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:10.240 wasn't the most productive, while Gigi was productive as a freshman, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.360 averaged fifteen points per game, and teams are a little 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.680 worried about his age. So imagine how I see it is. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.880 Imagine if he comes back next year as an eighteen 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.400 year old sophomore, and I think he will be the 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.000 number one pick in the twenty twenty four draft. So 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.760 and he was the number one player in his high 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.560 school class before he reclassified up. So one hand, some 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.840 people feel like trying to get to the NBA earlier 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.760 was a mistake and may have cost him a lot 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.360 of money on the front end. But a team could 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.839 draft him in the late first round, maybe even mid 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.520 first round, developing for a year and just you can 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.640 end with one of the better players in this class. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.640 Oh that's fascinating, great answer. I like you love Billa 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.000 Coola Bali. He's been rumored to go to OKAC. You 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.480 mentioned big question mark around OKAC is just who's getting 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.120 the minutes? What do you think their draft strategy is 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.840 going to be? We have about a minute. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.080 Yeah, I've heard multiple people say Sam Presty, the general managers, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.560 wants to collect the most talent. And it's kind of 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.800 concerning for some agents because they're like, you know, is 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.840 there a guaranteed roster spot as far not roster spot, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.000 but it's a guaranteed minutes behind all the young guys 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.200 that they already have. But I think Blaw is going 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.160 to be gone. I would bet that he's gone before 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.800 the better pick. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.920 You think you'll go nine to the Jazz. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.160 I heard nine, but I heard it could be higher. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.880 Wow, wait really quickly, about ten to fifteen seconds? 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.800 What do you think the fastest bilaal could go? 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.000 I don't know. I was trying to ask even but 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.319 I just heard a smirk and they said nine. He 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.400 might be gone by nine. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:47.119 Wow. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.520 From multiple people got to look at the draft. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.120 Positions, Yeah, we really do. That's interesting stuff. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.520 Rafael Borlo, thanks so much man, NBA big Board. Check 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.440 him out NBA big board dot com thanks so much, man, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.160 enjoy the draft. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.600 Smorrow night, no problem, Thank you guys having me on. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:00.600 Thanks. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:05.199 Got to subscribe to his substack and his substack. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.880 The guys that I have on this draft show, I 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.280 buy their stuff. I think that they're really good. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.640 I spend my own money on Raphael, I spend my 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.640 money on The Athletic and Sam Bessini's coming on. I 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.640 spend the money on Sean Hiken. If you're good enough 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.280 and you've got a substack. Mark Stein, who won't come 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.480 on the show because he's too bougie. Now he's got 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.559 too much stuff going on. I don't think he likes 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.480 doing hits. But I pay for his stuff. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.040 I pay for like eight guys, and we've had some 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:32.640 of them. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:52.240 On the Good news though, we're gonna get a little 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.880 bit smarter about the NBA Draft. We're gonna do that 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:54.240 right now. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.080 With Sam Passini. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.520 He writes about basketball. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.600 He covers the NBA for The Athletic, the NBA Draft, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.840 as well being the host of Game Theory. Sam so 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.720 much for thanks so much for joining us, man. I 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.679 know it's a busy week for you. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.200 Yeah, how's going, guys, We're good. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.200 Thanks so much for coming on I've been just hopelessly 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.520 digging through every iteration of your mock draft because I 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.640 feel like that's where the insight lies. I do kind 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.079 of want to get your thoughts overall on a team 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.040 that's been very perplexing for me, just at the tail 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.840 end of the lottery, which is Toronto, Like what direction 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:26.320 are they going? 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.920 I feel like there's been kind of some smoke screens. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.120 I don't think they've been publicizing who they've had work out. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.360 Maybe some people think that they offered a promise to 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.440 Kobe Buffkin, Like what's the deal there. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.880 Yeah, I don't have a great feel for Toronto, to 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.800 be honest. Similarly to you, sources around the league don't 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.840 have a great feel for Toronto right now. I think 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.280 that they are focusing a lot of their energy in 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.760 the backcourt at the very least, that seems to be 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.040 an overriding sentiment. And I think that if Kobe Buffkin 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.920 was to get to thirteen, that makes a lot of sense, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.920 right A guy that is a well round prospect who 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.040 can defend, you can really finish in the basket, you 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.439 can shoot. They have a lot of different potential iterations 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.520 of what their backcourt could look like so, Buffkin does 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.560 make a lot of sense for them at the very least, 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.439 But Toronto is one of the tougher teams to figure 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.280 out right now. I think that because they have so 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.000 many balls in the air in terms of free agency, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.280 and because there are so many teams in front of 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.560 them that could make decisions, it is a little bit 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.120 difficult to get a feel for them. For sure. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.120 We saw the market just completely flip right now to 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.360 go second overall. Brandon Miller's minus five point fifty. You 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.240 were getting plus one fifteen when we got off the 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.800 air last night. Yeah, yes, you're a third overall pick. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.720 Now Scoot Henderson's minus four to fifty. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:37.360 Is that what you have? 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.400 I know you updated your mock about two hours ago. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:40.720 Is that the way that you see it playing out 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:41.920 the first three picks tomorrow night? 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:42.720 Yeah? 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.480 So look I have Brandon Miller at too. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:45.080 Okay. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.800 I think that it's very clear the markets are playing 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.800 defense right now after what happened last season at number one. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.079 You look at like the hold in terms of the 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.440 difference between what your price is on Brandon Miller versus 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.000 what your price is on Scoot Henderson, and it just 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.680 is so abundantly obvious that markets are trying to be 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.800 a bit reactive to what is happening in terms of 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.880 the information game when things get reported, because obviously the 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.520 market flipped last night immediately when Adrian Molchinarowski went on 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:20.240 ESPN and said that Brandon Miller is currently in line 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:24.120 or on track to be the number two overall pick. Look, 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.480 all of my information is that Charlotte certainly did not 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.600 make the pick up until this week. Whether or not 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.920 they have made that pick is unclear to me. In 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.160 terms of Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller. I think Mitch 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.440 Kupcheck literally had a press conference earlier today where he 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.360 said we hadn't like officially one hundred percent decided, and 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.720 we won't decide until tomorrow. So how much of this 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.720 is smoke screens? How much of this is real fake? 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.640 What I do know is that Charlotte undertakes a very 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.720 deliberate process in terms of all of their draft decisions. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.440 Mitch cup Check is a guy that generally cares a 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.680 lot about the idea of the in person workout. And 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.880 this is also an organization going through an ownership change. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.800 And while the Hornets can say till they're blue in 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.560 the face that this is Mitch Kupcheck and Michael Jordan, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.280 like they're the main decision makers here. I do find 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.120 it hard to believe that, like the new ownership that's 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.040 taking over on July first, would in Habits stay here. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.360 So I'm just a little bit confused about the overall 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.600 tenor of the reporting on this. Frankly, I find it 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.880 a bit odd that it's always seemed like a Leon 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.560 or Brandon Miller Lean from day one post lottery. It 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.960 just hasn't been my impression. But at the end of 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.960 the day, I think that, you know, it's a fifty 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.600 to fifty choice and I don't know the way it'll 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.400 go down. Like, I wouldn't recommend anybody better on this 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.680 market right now, given how strong thehold is. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.240 Yeah, I agree. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.720 Another market that I feel like is very interesting in 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.360 a team that I'm not really sure. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:55.920 What they're going to do. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.680 Troy Weaver said that they're going to take a big swing. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.560 They don't have a lot of He doesn't want a bunch, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.400 he doesn't want singles. He says he's going for the 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.440 home run, which means the player with. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:06.680 The biggest upside. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.920 To me, that feels like a Thompson twin to you, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:10.680 what does that mean? 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:11.800 To me? 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.480 It would be Cam Whitmore, but I've gotten mixed stuff 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.040 on whether or not Cam Whitmore is the guy there. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.600 I certainly have a Sar Thompson there right now, and 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.080 you know wrote on Monday that I think of Sar 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.360 Thompson is very clearly in the mix at number five 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.040 at this point. Kim Whitmore of the you know, connections 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.040 to Troy Weaver myriad he played on Team Mellow. Troy 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.240 Weaver recruited Carmelo Anthony to go to Syracuse back in 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.480 two thousand and two, and you know, he certainly will 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.760 have as good of intel on Kim Whitmore as anybody. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.760 And there's also the Thompson twins. And Kevin Ollie was 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.800 heavily involved in the Detroit coaching search in large part 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.280 because of a long standing relationship with Troy Weaver. And 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.840 Kevin Ollie is the head coach or was the head 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.080 coach certainly at Overtime Elite, and you know, you would 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.960 think that the intel is going to be strong there 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.320 both ways. The other name I've gotten there is Jaris Walker. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.560 A pretty real amount I think Detroit has done a 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.240 better job than anybody in the league at smoke screening. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.920 Though this year. I was having this conversation last night 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.320 with my editor and he asked me to like rank 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.680 the teams in terms of, like the how impressive they've 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.200 been in their smoke screening. I think Detroit is probably 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.160 number one because I've gotten everything across the board when 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:27.080 it comes to them. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.120 Yeah, another team famous for smoke screening. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.200 Deception, keeping you out, freezing you out, but making hell 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.919 of draft picks and roster accumulation in general. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.439 Is okay, See, like what is their strategy. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.879 I've heard they might go after a Kobe Buffkin or 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.320 a blau Cool of Bali, But then you're talking about, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.040 like how do those minutes get distributed? 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.840 Yeah, the funniest thing is that, you know, in that 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.160 conversation with my editor, my number two pick was Oklahoma 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.119 City in terms of the smoke screen So you're one 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.720 hundred percent right there, Trista. It's funny. Typically with Oklahoma City, 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.639 you actually do have like a feel like we kind 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.760 of knew last year that it was gonna be chet 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.680 Holm Grin. There were rumors ahead of the draft last 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.320 two years ago or three years ago. I guess maybe 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.560 that it was gonna be Alexey Pokoshewski that they really wanted. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.560 They've let loose promises on campaign and Mitch McGarry before 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.439 and this year, I think that they just decided to 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.040 flood the zone with information coming from every single direction, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.120 and I've gotten six different names. I've gotten trade up, 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.160 I've gotten trade down. I think that Cobe. The names 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.920 that are most consistent for me are Kobe Buffkin, Derek Lively, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:40.960 and Blacool Labali. There Sam Presty went to France last 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.040 week to go see Blocoolabali. Kobe Buffkin just makes a 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.400 lot of sense for them in terms of a well 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.520 rounded player that they tend to value, also as younger 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.760 than guys like Jet Howard and Jarris Walker despite being 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.600 a sophomore. And then Lively is the name that doesn't 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.680 totally fit there because they tend to really like guys 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.399 that can dribble, pass, shoot at the center position. Lively 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.960 is more of just like a defensive savant on that 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.479 end that doesn't really do that. So, you know, I 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.640 think cool Ball Liam Buffkin are probably the two names 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.840