Speaker 1: What is up, dollphans, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's episode,
Speaker 1: we are right back to the positional capsules, a very
Speaker 1: important group to talk about today, both with Miami's incumbents,
Speaker 1: what might happen at the top, the draft prospects, the
Speaker 1: free agent possibilities out there. We're going to talk all
Speaker 1: things wide receivers. Plus I have some thoughts on some
Speaker 1: of the comments and content that happened during the weekend
Speaker 1: or the week that was rather at the super Bowl
Speaker 1: at Radio Row from the Baptist Health Studios inside the
Speaker 1: Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Before we dive into these wide outs, is my friend?
Speaker 1: OJ McDuffie might say, still feels very cool to call
Speaker 1: him my friend. There was a lot of material to
Speaker 1: cover from the week that was at the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but the Monday show was already so jam packed with content.
Speaker 1: I wanted to cover some of it with you guys
Speaker 1: here on the Wednesday show. And it all kind of
Speaker 1: ties together because I have four things and they're all
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football. First up, Marino
Speaker 1: was talking about Tua at his Dan Marino, Tarn talked
Speaker 1: about his future, Tyreek talked about his future and the
Speaker 1: apology tour, and of course the Jalen Wattle injury prone narrative,
Speaker 1: I guess is the right word out there. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and start with Marino in Tua off the top.
Speaker 1: Marino revealed that it was an injury akin to a
Speaker 1: hit pointer, which we've discussed on this show a few times.
Speaker 1: And you know, we know that two was adamant that
Speaker 1: he was going to play regardless of orders had we
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, and obviously a week eighteen did not
Speaker 1: allow for that. But let's just say, with his gusto
Speaker 1: about playing, it would have had to have been pretty bad, right.
Speaker 2: Immobile is the term that I would use.
Speaker 1: I don't think he physically could have done it for
Speaker 1: them to hold him back like their playoffs lives were
Speaker 1: on the line.
Speaker 2: I just think we should keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: And that was a pretty big hit to that hip
Speaker 1: on that scramble against the Texans, and again it comes
Speaker 1: with Tua as a runner. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: the conversation you have to have if you're the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins brass this year is how the hell do you
Speaker 1: keep your quarterback safe. That hasn't proven an ability to
Speaker 1: do that, to do that outside of one season, and
Speaker 1: I don't think you can tell your quarterback to just
Speaker 1: be a statue in today's NFL. And hell, we saw
Speaker 1: some of Tua's biggest plays over the last three years
Speaker 1: come as a result of his ability to move around
Speaker 1: a little bit. That famous you know, he's got to
Speaker 1: Tyreek going deep speed racer. That was him jumping off
Speaker 1: off the spot and attacking the last scrimmage and throwing
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. The spin touchdown throw to
Speaker 1: River Craycraft against the Ravens back in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo touchdown last year on the move, that third
Speaker 1: and a mile conversion to Raheem Mostert against the Rams
Speaker 1: that kept our season alive at that juncture of the season.
Speaker 2: I do not want to lose those plays.
Speaker 1: But if we don't have Tua, we literally cannot beat
Speaker 1: anybody who's fielding an NFL team. And you know, we
Speaker 1: did beat Jake Brisket led Patriots, who have the worst
Speaker 1: offensive personnel in the league we've seen in the last
Speaker 1: half decade. And then Dory and Thompson Robinson, who will
Speaker 1: never start a game in the NFL ever again. So
Speaker 1: my take is I think Tua should have the same
Speaker 1: offseason regimens he had last year. But I think he
Speaker 1: just has to play smarter, which we all have asked
Speaker 1: for that for a while now. That's all it is.
Speaker 1: And I always say I understand the Houston play because
Speaker 1: it was a critical down and a critical game. Any
Speaker 1: third down in the game of that magnitude is gonna
Speaker 1: be big. You can't give away possessions. I don't want
Speaker 1: him to give up on those plays, and I'll take
Speaker 1: the risks that come with that, But like the concussion
Speaker 1: against Buffalo down twenty one in Week two, we can
Speaker 1: live without those, right. That's where I come down on
Speaker 1: the Tua debate. Let's just reduce the ones that we
Speaker 1: can control, and if it's still not enough, well then
Speaker 1: we kind of have our answer. At least we can
Speaker 1: remove that element of it, and if he can't stay
Speaker 1: healthy still, then you know where you have to go
Speaker 1: from there. But I also know there's a ton of
Speaker 1: players in this league that were once deemed injury prone
Speaker 1: and then went on to play like iron Man streaks
Speaker 1: and play for five to six years in a row
Speaker 1: without missing games. So you know, it could be a
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, but
Speaker 1: we need you healthy to Let's just control as much
Speaker 1: as we possibly can.
Speaker 2: Next up was to Ron Armstead.
Speaker 1: Sure as hell sounds like a guy that thinks he's
Speaker 1: coming back to play for this football team. But we'll
Speaker 1: see how he feels, you know, come training camp and
Speaker 1: all that. But you know, will it be here, will
Speaker 1: it be somewhere else? A lot of options are punitive
Speaker 1: in terms of how it could affect the Dolphin's financial situation.
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, I think Patrick Paul is ready to go,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that Armstead of it all makes
Speaker 1: you know, for a good option there, because to me,
Speaker 1: the only option is Paul to right tackle and Austin
Speaker 1: Jackson to right guard. But I think that makes both
Speaker 1: players worse than what they would be if they played
Speaker 1: left and right tackle respectively. You know, I've opined about this,
Speaker 1: and I think that I'm settled on the idea of
Speaker 1: leaving those guys all alone and addressing the two guard
Speaker 1: spots this offseason. I like the idea of you know,
Speaker 1: will Hernandez coming over from the Cardinals giving you some
Speaker 1: more ability to run some inside zones and due at
Speaker 1: the point of attack. A mid round draft pick and
Speaker 1: re sign and win and have those two guys compete
Speaker 1: for the right guard spot, and then a heavy emphasis
Speaker 1: on a swing tackle like a Patrick McCary so that
Speaker 1: you're deep at every position and you are good with
Speaker 1: reliable guys in the top five. Now, if Armstead comes back,
Speaker 1: I think you do have to go with Paul as
Speaker 1: the swing tackle. And given Tehran's history, you know he's
Speaker 1: going to play eventually, but that's the choice you'll have
Speaker 1: to make if they go that route. I think you
Speaker 1: can get out of the Armstead business even if he
Speaker 1: doesn't retire this season, and kind of take your medicine now,
Speaker 1: but be okay down the road. And look, I'm not
Speaker 1: at all saying that Tehran doesn't make you a better
Speaker 1: football team, because he does, But when you have a
Speaker 1: finite amount of resources, you have to consider what that
Speaker 1: ripple effect of those moves could be. And I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure that him being a left tackle for this
Speaker 1: team right now is the best thing. Now maybe it is,
Speaker 1: but right now I kind of think Patrick Paul needs
Speaker 1: those reps and needs that job, and Austin Jackson should
Speaker 1: stay at tackle, and I kind of feel like that's
Speaker 1: the best route they could take right now. Next, Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill went on an apology tour, and my first thought
Speaker 1: regarding that.
Speaker 2: No more talk.
Speaker 1: And I do apologize for the audio quality on that
Speaker 1: best I could find, but like, shut up, dude, you know,
Speaker 1: how are you gonna sit here and talk about being
Speaker 1: the same guy who's on time to meetings? Like we
Speaker 1: have examples of you not being that brother, So I
Speaker 1: get really frustrated by it all. And to me, the
Speaker 1: worst thing a player can do is to put in
Speaker 1: less than one hundred percent and then go on control
Speaker 1: the fans after the fact, like Javon did on Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday talking about Vic FANGI like, what the hell, man,
Speaker 1: what the hell like? And then you say they're too sensitive.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that approach. These are people that
Speaker 1: love this team unconditionally. I don't think you should go
Speaker 1: after them for anything. So Tyreek as a player being
Speaker 1: here is obviously great. He makes the football team better.
Speaker 1: I have no like disregard of his talent, but I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, guys, to me, it points to a
Speaker 1: limited change, and I just don't see running it back
Speaker 1: as status quo is a viable option, and there's time
Speaker 1: to prove that that won't be how it is. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys right now, even if they bring
Speaker 1: back Reek and they sign will Hernandez and they land
Speaker 1: and Tyler Warren, it picked thirteen. Maybe they signed Milton
Speaker 1: Williams and they hit on a free agent linebacker in
Speaker 1: safety and guard the positions they have to find this year.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be bearish on the entire thing for
Speaker 1: the first time in a while, because I just don't
Speaker 1: think that you can administratively do all the same things
Speaker 1: again and expect to be different. So that's my take
Speaker 1: on Tyreek, and last one here is, you know, the
Speaker 1: idea that all of Miami's core parts are either old
Speaker 1: or injury prone, and not that point in general, but
Speaker 1: the Wattle play that Waddle's name being listed among the
Speaker 1: injury prone players was what bothered me.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 1: That's like saying this team has completely neglected the offensive
Speaker 1: line for the last decade or however far back that
Speaker 1: threshold goes when I hear that point.
Speaker 2: But just want to be sure that we all.
Speaker 1: Realize he's played sixty two games out of a possible
Speaker 1: sixty eight and five five years, four years. Just so
Speaker 1: we're clear, that's the same number as Jamar Chase, same
Speaker 1: number as Devonte Smith. I'm just impartial to nonsense. That's nonsense.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I might have to cut Jalen's third down
Speaker 1: reel here and show y'all how special that dude is,
Speaker 1: because I just can't understand some of the conversation around
Speaker 1: his game that I've seen out there.
Speaker 2: So that's what I wanted to get off my chest.
Speaker 1: Now We're gonna go ahead and pivot forward here to
Speaker 1: the next positional capsule. And it's a long When I
Speaker 1: have eleven draft prospects I watch, I think I have
Speaker 1: nine free agents I watch as well, So we have
Speaker 1: to talk about that and our own guys, just so
Speaker 1: real quick, just so you guys are with me, here
Speaker 1: going to be a long episode Bucker Room, So go
Speaker 1: ahead and buckle up. Bucker Rooms wide receivers. In terms
Speaker 1: of what expectations were from a fantasy and counting stats perspective,
Speaker 1: I think you could say this room was the one
Speaker 1: that fell shortest of expectations. And those are three thousand
Speaker 1: yards and twenty touchdowns from your top two guys, right
Speaker 1: or at least close to that, at least you pay
Speaker 1: them that much, And it turned out to be the
Speaker 1: top two receivers were a back and a tight end
Speaker 1: this year. But also you got that because of the
Speaker 1: presence of Waddle and Tyreek and where that fell off
Speaker 1: from the top. I think you could say this was
Speaker 1: the best number three wide we've had under the Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel regime, with Maleague, Washington, River Craycraft battled injuries all year,
Speaker 1: and Stuffer had that shoulder injury that he had back
Speaker 1: in August. Then you've got a glimpse of guys trying
Speaker 1: to carve out a role between ds Gridge Grant Dubo's
Speaker 1: Eric Azukama never really cracked the lineup, Braxton Barrios going
Speaker 1: down after the sixth game before his first catch in
Speaker 1: the season, Taj Washington getting hurt in the summer, Anthony
Speaker 1: Schwartz getting hurt in the preseason. I think there's a
Speaker 1: ton of work. There's a ton to work with here
Speaker 1: up and down the roster, But the biggest domino or
Speaker 1: thing they have to figure out is how to get
Speaker 1: Tyreek back to twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three production,
Speaker 1: and of course by now you know that I feel
Speaker 1: the toothpaste has left the tube and I don't know
Speaker 1: how you put it back in. No matter how much
Speaker 1: he lies on sports talk shows like brother, you were
Speaker 1: not here all the time and at every like. You
Speaker 1: can say as much as you want, but that ain't reality.
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and get into the players here.
Speaker 1: And to me, Tyreek Hill number ten quitting on the team,
Speaker 1: skipping walkthroughs and not practice and then blaming your coach
Speaker 1: for that was weird. Being in the wrong spot, dropping
Speaker 1: critical passes in quite literally every big game this team
Speaker 1: has played. I mean, point to your quarterback in those
Speaker 1: games and measure their legacy in those games. Right, But
Speaker 1: everyone outside of Dolphins Land, all the nerds commentators will
Speaker 1: tell you that Tyreek made Tua. Right, he's the best player,
Speaker 1: and he is the best player on the team. I'll
Speaker 1: give him that. But if that's the case, then how
Speaker 1: about his legacy as the best player and the guy
Speaker 1: that's in the MVP conversation with the quarterbacks every year,
Speaker 1: and that you know they put Tyreek up there last
Speaker 1: year not to in those conversations, Well, then we should
Speaker 1: probably evaluate him in the big moments the same way
Speaker 1: you do quarterbacks. And I go back and watch a
Speaker 1: drop touchdown against the Philadelphia Eagles, I go back and
Speaker 1: watch a drop touchdown against the Ravens that would have
Speaker 1: given you a touchdown lead in the second quarter of
Speaker 1: that game for the number one seed in the AFC
Speaker 1: in week seventeen, the critical third down drops in the
Speaker 1: finale against the Bills. A week later, and on the
Speaker 1: final drive before a pick the end of the game,
Speaker 1: The drop and the fumble against the Chiefs that same year,
Speaker 1: the two against the Niners this year, probably a third
Speaker 1: that if you want to count that way. A bad
Speaker 1: route against the Houston Texans and losing a fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty ball that led to two picks, including the one
Speaker 1: on the game's final drive. I mean, if he were
Speaker 1: a quarterback, we'd be calling this guy the biggest big
Speaker 1: game choker of all time.
Speaker 2: That's just how it is.
Speaker 1: And aside from this tangent, that thing that is most
Speaker 1: inexcusable of all of that, bigger than quitting on the
Speaker 1: team is the way he handled the entire aftermath. Man
Speaker 1: to get on social media and ttrol your fan base,
Speaker 1: then to come back and not understand all the unrest
Speaker 1: and negative comments that come along with that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Like this is when your friends is in a terrible
Speaker 1: relationship with a horrendous person, but he refuses to open
Speaker 1: his eyes to it. This is that, Like this is
Speaker 1: a toxic partner that will make you a worse person. Geez, Travis,
Speaker 1: tell you how you tell us how you really feel,
Speaker 1: and it probably comes back to bite me because it
Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, depending on who you listened to, Like,
Speaker 1: he ain't going anywhere, so I don't know. He's arguably
Speaker 1: the most talented player on the entire planet, even with
Speaker 1: a dip in production. He commands attention and helps us
Speaker 1: have more multiple ways to play. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: obstacle here is earning back the goodwill of the teammates
Speaker 1: and the staff after refusing to go back in the
Speaker 1: game in the finale against the Jets. That's tough, and
Speaker 1: there's been a lot said about the approach and professionalism
Speaker 1: and all of that.
Speaker 2: It has to get solved.
Speaker 1: Number one up front this entire offseason, even above personnel.
Speaker 1: It starts with the best player on the team being
Speaker 1: your most committed player. I'm really curious to see how
Speaker 1: that all plays out. I think Jalen Waddle, number seventeen,
Speaker 1: could be the best player in the team if he
Speaker 1: was afforded the opportunity. I put on his third down
Speaker 1: reel the other day, and the dude just wins when
Speaker 1: he has to. And he'll get to that place. When
Speaker 1: they try to take it away from him, I will
Speaker 1: argue until I'm blue in the face. He is number
Speaker 1: one receiver across all but like seven or eight teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He is so good off the line
Speaker 1: with his release. We heard Tua discuss the indicators that
Speaker 1: he gives and the importance of a player like him
Speaker 1: to help dictate coverage. And he counts on all those
Speaker 1: third and sevens, not on Reek, not on anybody else.
Speaker 2: But Waddle's his go to guy.
Speaker 1: When he has to win an out route against outside
Speaker 1: leverage from a squatting cornerback, he can still get there.
Speaker 1: He's a dog who competes his butts off butts. But
Speaker 1: go watch all the big plays by him or his teammates,
Speaker 1: and he's happier than those guys are to make the
Speaker 1: big play. There is no shortage of will in the
Speaker 1: run game, even if sometimes he's overmatched by a bigger safety.
Speaker 1: I've said this a lot in this series. Give me
Speaker 1: twenty two Jalen Waddles and I'll go win a championship.
Speaker 2: If I have to nitpick.
Speaker 1: He is not super creative as a runner like I
Speaker 1: thought he might be coming out of Alabama. I think
Speaker 1: he's regressed a bit in that regard in his career.
Speaker 1: Number eighty three Molik Washington. The way he closed the
Speaker 1: season has me jazzed about his projection, first off, to
Speaker 1: make an impact in this system with all the timing mechanisms,
Speaker 1: in the proficient, precise nature of how Tua plays the game,
Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about how he gets
Speaker 1: himself ready to play football. He made tough catches, he
Speaker 1: bounced off tackles. He's an asset in the screen game
Speaker 1: and as a return man. I have to imagine there's
Speaker 1: an expanded role for him next season. Number eighty five
Speaker 1: River Creakcraft is scheduled to be a free agent. Remember
Speaker 1: him having the best camp of his life before that
Speaker 1: injury in the preseason game last year and then never
Speaker 1: really got back into the fold until like the very
Speaker 1: last game of the season. Exceptional blocker. He'll be where
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be. He'll catch everything. He just has
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. The most games he's played his career
Speaker 1: was eleven back in twenty twenty two. Number eighty four
Speaker 1: Eric Azukama played in just two games, targeted twice. I
Speaker 1: was hopeful that his development would take off, especially after
Speaker 1: that running back role he played to open the year
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. But he's been hurt. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been available. I don't know how how prepared he is
Speaker 1: to play in this offense. He'll be a free agent
Speaker 1: after next year, so he'll be in camp most likely
Speaker 1: this year and get another crack at it, but you
Speaker 1: know it's a long road. Braxton Burios scheduled to be
Speaker 1: a free agent zero catches this year. Number A two
Speaker 1: Dwayne Eskridge, also a free agent. I thought the fact
Speaker 1: that he got as much run as he did early
Speaker 1: on was a good sign for his long term prospects
Speaker 1: here because he's a run after catch guy. We know
Speaker 1: McDaniel loves that he has returnability, screen game impact.
Speaker 2: He's a good blocker.
Speaker 1: I think he's worth developing in the system further should
Speaker 1: they bring him back. Number eighty eight Grant d Bo's
Speaker 1: an exclusive right free agent coming off that scary injury
Speaker 1: in Houston. His tape was one of excellent blocking and
Speaker 1: some run after the catch ability, but two long term
Speaker 1: injuries prevented us from getting a good look at him.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be back in camp with a chance
Speaker 1: to make the team again. Number A two TODJ. Washington,
Speaker 1: was hurt back in the summer, but he was one
Speaker 1: of the most polished deep ball receivers in the nation
Speaker 1: his last year at USC Plenty of speed to burn,
Speaker 1: good ball tracking. I'm excited to watch him this spring
Speaker 1: in the summer. Number eighty four Anthony Schwartz was injured
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He's a restricted free agent who was
Speaker 1: making some real noise through camping in the preseason. Another
Speaker 1: speed guy that was finding his footing in the system
Speaker 1: what this room needs. I think you solve a lot
Speaker 1: of problems by just moving off the top guy. Waddle
Speaker 1: becomes just peachy as your number one receiver. You remove
Speaker 1: that negative influence for how to go about your business
Speaker 1: and not give the rest of the skill guys the
Speaker 1: idea that it's okay to just be complacent, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of not doing what needs to be done
Speaker 1: to be a great player and team and you can
Speaker 1: get more of a compliment in terms of how you
Speaker 1: you search for your new number two receiver. Especially the
Speaker 1: three is also small, and you can pivot your offense
Speaker 1: to more of a twelve personnel base attack without the
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar guy. I think we need size, we
Speaker 1: need smarts, we need blocking, we need accountability, just like
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster. We're not looking for a
Speaker 1: star here, just a robin to go along with the
Speaker 1: batman one more time. I think the room needs audition
Speaker 1: by subtraction. But if it doesn't happen, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play that way too and try to find our
Speaker 1: fit along along in those parameters too additional assets. Tarik
Speaker 1: Black is on the reserve of futurist contract. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and take our first break, come back and talk
Speaker 1: about the free agents. That's next Draft Time Podcast, your
Speaker 1: host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation. Back here
Speaker 1: segment to Draft Time Podcast, talking about the wide receivers
Speaker 1: as we get closer and closer to the scout and combine, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, we have some very fun coverage coming
Speaker 1: your guys away during the week of the combine gonna
Speaker 1: get some big time names on the show, and not
Speaker 1: just talking about media members. Maybe a certain coach of
Speaker 1: a certain football team might be.
Speaker 2: Joining us on the podcast. Maybe we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: But this entire offseason kind of hinges to me on
Speaker 1: one move that may or may not happen.
Speaker 2: I really don't know. I mean, I have expressed my thoughts.
Speaker 1: On what should happen, but the entire makeup of this
Speaker 1: exercise changes with Tyreek Hill and his status on the
Speaker 1: football team, which at this point, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lean on what's gonna happen. Rap sheet coming
Speaker 1: out saying he's not expected to be moved. Schefter on
Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show had a face that when they
Speaker 1: asked him a question like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: So I think the good soldier routine has validity from
Speaker 1: two standpoints of go say nice things and we'll get
Speaker 1: you the hell out of here. It also would fit
Speaker 1: the approach of Reek not wanting to leave South Florida
Speaker 1: because trust me, he likes it here a whole heck
Speaker 1: of a lot. So I'm I'm all out of leans
Speaker 1: on how this might go. I have what I want
Speaker 1: to happen but what might happen, I don't know, And
Speaker 1: if he's back, even if he's not, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're dipping your toe too much into the top of
Speaker 1: this class and free agency. This position is akin to
Speaker 1: That's got a funny text from Kyle. This position is
Speaker 1: at the tackle spot. These days, you're better off going
Speaker 1: young or reclamation because you're you're paying above average players
Speaker 1: top dollars.
Speaker 2: Like what Christian Kirk got.
Speaker 1: I like Christian Kirk, but he got way too much
Speaker 1: money on the open market.
Speaker 2: Look at what Zay Jones got.
Speaker 1: I don't like him at all, and he got ten
Speaker 1: million bucks a couple of years ago from the Jags.
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel got three for thirty. I like Curtis Samuel,
Speaker 1: but ten million per year. I mean, you cannot tell
Speaker 1: me that's money well spent. He had basically the same
Speaker 1: numbers as Malik Washington, and Eliite costs one twentieth of
Speaker 1: his salary compared to what the Bills played Samuel. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do mega workups on all these guys.
Speaker 1: Some I'm not even gonna do. Sound good all right,
Speaker 1: two two at well all gas all the time, every
Speaker 1: part of his game has built off the ability to
Speaker 1: get vertical, and he was so valuable for the Rams
Speaker 1: because they would often motion him. He's the one that
Speaker 1: you know has the most issue being pressed between him
Speaker 1: Nakua and Cup and then into minimal safety, help threaten vertical,
Speaker 1: get on that back hip, and then break that route off.
Speaker 1: So he's a crisp route runner that's only added Polish
Speaker 1: as a pro. My conclusion is there's no reason to think.
Speaker 2: That at Will.
Speaker 1: At Will won't get an eight figure per year contract
Speaker 1: the way Zay Jones and Curtis Samuel did, and without
Speaker 1: Tyreek or with him, I don't think you can justify
Speaker 1: another one hundred and sixty pound wide receiver to this mix,
Speaker 1: especially when a lot of his catches come off clean
Speaker 1: releases from pre snap motion. Feels like if you brought
Speaker 1: him in, you basically remove any pre snap motion for
Speaker 1: Reek or Waddle because you can only have one guy
Speaker 1: go to time right. I love his game, his speed,
Speaker 1: his quickness has familiarity, but this is a luxury that
Speaker 1: we cannot afford. Can you win in a short amount
Speaker 1: of space and be unimpeded by physicality? I don't think
Speaker 1: he can. I think we kind of need that Diami.
Speaker 1: Brown has patience and length and can high point the
Speaker 1: football that makes a really good second fiddle vertical option
Speaker 1: without help over the top. But six foot one, long
Speaker 1: arms and exceptional tracking skills make him a threat. He
Speaker 1: averaged twenty yards per catch in college and wasn't really
Speaker 1: even a downfield type of player. He builds to speed
Speaker 1: to get vertical, not super explosive in a short area.
Speaker 1: A lot of his production came in the same vein
Speaker 1: as at Will. You know, with attention going to McLaurin
Speaker 1: and zach Ertz and credit to him for doing that,
Speaker 1: But we need a rookie contract in that role, not
Speaker 1: a player who's for sure going to get wide receiver
Speaker 1: to money from somebody eight figures. My conclusions the exact
Speaker 1: same is at Will not a luxury store we're shopping from.
Speaker 1: Those playoff performances are going to get him paid. Now
Speaker 1: he had he stayed quiet and didn't go off in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, sure I would be interested in three or
Speaker 1: four million bucks a year, but that's a fraction of
Speaker 1: what I think he'll get Hollywood. Brown essentially had like
Speaker 1: a red shirts season for the Kansas City Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: not because he you know he was just hurt. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't use this year's tape to evaluate him, so I
Speaker 1: thought he was a little bit slower. At his best,
Speaker 1: he destroys man coverage with pace and timing, the ability
Speaker 1: to alter his stem to attack the leverage without losing acceleration.
Speaker 1: And then there's a whole acceleration thing right Like, he
Speaker 1: can run away from you vertically, horizontally, has really good
Speaker 1: body control on throws all over his frame could be
Speaker 1: a key in a timing offense.
Speaker 2: We play that.
Speaker 1: He has quiet, soft hands to pluck tough catches and
Speaker 1: small windows on verticals on a sprint sprint while contested
Speaker 1: in zones over the middle of the field. My conclusion
Speaker 1: is if he takes a one year prove it deal,
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, especially in the absence of the Reek.
Speaker 2: This to me is a good Tyreek.
Speaker 1: Replacement if you go that route, But I doubt it
Speaker 1: because he was the top guy available for a couple
Speaker 1: of years or trade option, and I think he'll be
Speaker 1: that once again. Brandon Cooks, this is alphabetical, guys. You
Speaker 1: want a top tier route runner, ultimate professional, detail oriented
Speaker 1: individual who can beat you with his traits and his
Speaker 1: brain and isn't that what it sounds like we need?
Speaker 1: This is the guy, the way he competes, the feat
Speaker 1: the way he can win in short areas. I am
Speaker 1: such a huge fan of his game. He catches everything,
Speaker 1: the way he celebrates his own plays. Plus his teammates
Speaker 1: has that psycho mentality. His quickness matches with his understanding
Speaker 1: of how each move impacts the defender and how he
Speaker 1: can exploit the leverage that he creates with all those moves.
Speaker 1: And I think that his play strength is good enough
Speaker 1: to make all of this effective even undersized conclusion, you
Speaker 1: have to pick your spots in free agency, and this
Speaker 1: feels like the right combination of ingredients to give you
Speaker 1: a good player at maybe an affordable cost, or maybe
Speaker 1: he retires, who knows, but he can play, and I
Speaker 1: do not imagine he costs a time. Plus, you want
Speaker 1: the receiver room to be more accountable than get unkin there.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin truly one of the best wide receivers in
Speaker 1: the game. We're talking about raw skills of go lineup
Speaker 1: and beat this defensive back with your collection of moves,
Speaker 1: tough dog, attention to detail, hands, coverage recognition, quarterback friendly,
Speaker 1: big catch radius, I love Chris Godwin and his game. However,
Speaker 1: even with the injury, I imagine he'll be very pricey.
Speaker 1: Copy and paste the conclusion here. For Brandon Cooks, maybe
Speaker 1: it's a one year, get healthy deal and we can
Speaker 1: be the beneficiaries. But man, when he got hurt, he
Speaker 1: was rolling as he usually is. Go look at any
Speaker 1: team and the fan base that has a need a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're gonna be posting about signing Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: It will not be cheap. Te Higgins, top twenty wide
Speaker 1: receiver gonna get paid like it. Don't even have to
Speaker 1: go over this one. Just don't go to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Big Doug, can you do this that favor?
Speaker 2: Please? Cool?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 1: Little Jordan Humphrey, that's his name, the best downfield blocker
Speaker 1: of this group that with the height, I think makes
Speaker 1: him a target as a fourth. Remember here, it's not
Speaker 1: like you don't play because we sub a lot. So
Speaker 1: he can be part of your screen game. He can
Speaker 1: be part of your red zone. Twelve personnel eleven personnel
Speaker 1: packages give you a bigger body to thwart those robbers
Speaker 1: that want to try to undercut stuff. Think about him
Speaker 1: running that Claypool route versus the Bills in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: but not running the way he ran the way Claypool
Speaker 1: ran it. I love him as a runner on the
Speaker 1: screen game just as much as a blocker. Like imagine
Speaker 1: having the John hu Now screen option to either side
Speaker 1: of the formation out of double stacks. That's what you
Speaker 1: get with little Jordan Humphrey six foot four, two twenty five.
Speaker 1: You could essentially sign him as an f who's probably
Speaker 1: a better blocker than John hu I really see the
Speaker 1: fit here. Maybe your ben' skeronic type for the Rams,
Speaker 1: same build. His career high was this year two hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety three yards, But I think you're looking at
Speaker 1: him for situational football, an area we all agree has
Speaker 1: to get better. Plus there's a reason his projected market
Speaker 1: is only two million bucks.
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore.
Speaker 1: This could be another possible like Tyreek replacement like a
Speaker 1: poor man's obviously, but probably the best short space mover
Speaker 1: breaker of the list of guys that fall in the
Speaker 1: affordable range. Plays low out of his release, sinks the
Speaker 1: hips into the break, takes the extra step in his
Speaker 1: route to further sell the fake and generate separation. Shifty
Speaker 1: slot type of guy some tackle breaking ability, polished release
Speaker 1: game that can get to his spots against the preferred
Speaker 1: leverage of the defender. He lacks the second gear and
Speaker 1: downfield explosiveness off of that cut as well, so he
Speaker 1: has to get to the to the point unencumbered. My
Speaker 1: conclusion here as if Maleak didn't hit like he did
Speaker 1: last year, I think more would be a very viable
Speaker 1: number three. If you move off of Riek, you can
Speaker 1: bring him in as well as number three and kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, replace that number two role maybe, but he
Speaker 1: can uncover against the opponent's third. Best option has the
Speaker 1: shakes and pacing, the defeat zone coverage, nothing special, but
Speaker 1: a nice like Jarvis Landry type of player. Josh Palmer
Speaker 1: is a big slot X option that can run the
Speaker 1: full route tree from more than just that ex position.
Speaker 1: Wins with more more with detail that he does with
Speaker 1: quickness and hip syncing. He presses vertical, then tries to
Speaker 1: swim or box out and stack, which he's quite good at,
Speaker 1: and he builds to speed but probably won't outrun a
Speaker 1: lot of cornerbacks. His ability to make a contested catch
Speaker 1: does create pressure that he uses to his advantage in
Speaker 1: terms of setting up his routes. He's adept at out
Speaker 1: physically in cornerbacks to prevent their ability to go up
Speaker 1: to make a play on the football. The ball tracking,
Speaker 1: the quiet hands, the adjusting eye line all qualities of
Speaker 1: his game, along with the body control and field awareness.
Speaker 1: My conclusion is the tape tells me spot racks four
Speaker 1: point three million dollars per year apy or that's a
Speaker 1: million per year means is woefully too small, but he's
Speaker 1: had an issue staying healthy. He played fifteen games this year,
Speaker 1: just ten last year. But that's part of the equation
Speaker 1: that makes my preference. One for five would be a
Speaker 1: good deal for this player, and I would take that
Speaker 1: to the bank all day long. Rondell Moore, nobody stands
Speaker 1: a short king like us. Right in terms of the
Speaker 1: screen game return game, this is kind of the ideal fit.
Speaker 1: His career never took off like we thought it might,
Speaker 1: but he has suddenness and burst run after the catch
Speaker 1: ability off the charts. I love how shifty he is
Speaker 1: at the top of the route and some of the
Speaker 1: stuff he can do to four tackles beside or rather
Speaker 1: bides him separation. As a route runner, he can lean
Speaker 1: on you, he can armbar you and get that subtle
Speaker 1: push off which aids him in that explosive lateral step.
Speaker 1: My conclusion is that he had a horrific injury down
Speaker 1: here last year in training camp. The resulted in the
Speaker 1: air cast. So if you want your Brent Grimes like
Speaker 1: one year, prove it off an injury contract. He's your
Speaker 1: scratch off undersized wide receiver who has not lied up
Speaker 1: to expectations. Option in this realm, I don't know. Checks
Speaker 1: a lot of the boxes, but also leaves a few
Speaker 1: of the big ones to be unchecked. Unlike Nick Westbrook,
Speaker 1: a kine from Tennessee Titans. What he lacks in foot quickness,
Speaker 1: he makes up for strength, leverage, and catch radius. I
Speaker 1: think he's adept enough at setting up routes to allow
Speaker 1: those traits to flourish. He's not breaking you down with
Speaker 1: a snap move. He's not running by you with some
Speaker 1: sort of you know, without some type of deception. He's
Speaker 1: not even Devonte Parker pulling down deep shots. He's a
Speaker 1: master of none, but good at plenty. Hence his position
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver two or three in your offense.
Speaker 1: I love his feel most of all. He knows what
Speaker 1: type of footwork and timing of his break, how it
Speaker 1: times up with route requires. He knows how to collision
Speaker 1: settle in the tight areas against zone and in the
Speaker 1: red zone. He adjusted the ball really nicely and plays
Speaker 1: a rebound style when coming back down the stem that
Speaker 1: I think a quarterback would really trust. My conclusion here
Speaker 1: is this is what my preferred options provided the spot
Speaker 1: rack projection of four million ap ys on. I think
Speaker 1: that everything we don't have in the receiver room and
Speaker 1: isn't crazy expensive fits with what he does to me.
Speaker 1: This could be your Cedric Wilson redo or perhaps what
Speaker 1: he should have been. Maybe Erica As would comment to
Speaker 1: that regard as well. Free agent receiver rankings removed t
Speaker 1: Hollywood and God went from our projected interest, so not
Speaker 1: to fudge up my one through three, so it would
Speaker 1: go like this, Brandon Cooks number one, Josh Palmer number two,
Speaker 1: westbrook A keen A number three, Rondell Moore number four,
Speaker 1: Little Jordan Humphrey number five, two to two at Will
Speaker 1: Diami Brown, and Elijah Moore round out six through eight.
Speaker 1: I also did not work up Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: and Alan Mike Williams, Darius Slayton, fifteen million per year
Speaker 1: for Darius Slayton. Huh, Mac Hollins, Noah Brown. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of names just like there are every single year,
Speaker 1: like there are in the draft. And we're gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and put a pin in this right now and
Speaker 1: come back and talk about my receiver rankings, which are
Speaker 1: all over the map in terms of what you've seen
Speaker 1: from a national perspective. Stay tuned for the wackiest wide
Speaker 1: receiver rankings in the universe. That's next Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation.
Speaker 2: All right, we are.
Speaker 1: Coming up on like minute number twenty eight of the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I have eleven players to tell you about, So
Speaker 1: strap in, buckle up, bookaroo for this last portion of
Speaker 1: the wide receiver capsule. Again, the work is far from
Speaker 1: complete what I've done so far. We always start with
Speaker 1: that disclaimer and this disclaimer that I stacked these guys
Speaker 1: in order that I found them on a draft publication site,
Speaker 1: and then I had significant changes to my rankings.
Speaker 2: So if the language doesn't always.
Speaker 1: Add up here, I do apologize, But the way I
Speaker 1: ranked them was nowhere near the order that I watched
Speaker 1: them in let's go ahead and start with my top
Speaker 1: receiver in the entire class. And I always try to
Speaker 1: find a way to pair projection of physical traits to
Speaker 1: polish at playing football. Like Tua is an incredibly polished
Speaker 1: quarterback that plays the position as well as anybody in
Speaker 1: the NFL, he doesn't have high end upside physical traits.
Speaker 1: When you get those two worlds together, you get legendary
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players. But I think that when you're
Speaker 1: that good at football, because Zach Thomas, for instance, you
Speaker 1: can make the Hall of Fame. If you're just traits based,
Speaker 1: you can have a fun four or five year flash
Speaker 1: in the pan. And I heard this conversation about DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf the other day on a podcast I listened to
Speaker 1: about how there's concern about a guy that had a
Speaker 1: limited route tree, isn't a crafty route runner, and how
Speaker 1: if you're not an incredible, like world class route runner,
Speaker 1: you have to get by on your physical traits. And
Speaker 1: then once those begin to diminish in any sense, and
Speaker 1: at wide receiver it happens a lot earlier than a quarterback,
Speaker 1: for instance, then you become a fraction of the player
Speaker 1: that you were. So you look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, who is still a monster top ten receiver
Speaker 1: all day, every day because he is he came out
Speaker 1: as a great route runner and was as a rookie
Speaker 1: and has been every single year since then. Or you
Speaker 1: look at a Devonte Parker who ran like five routes
Speaker 1: at Louisville and you know, never really took off because
Speaker 1: he just that wasn't part of his game. He couldn't
Speaker 1: create separation through route running. But because he was fast
Speaker 1: and taller than you, he could win that way. And
Speaker 1: the minute he slowed down a fraction of a second,
Speaker 1: he became, you know, a twenty five catch per year
Speaker 1: type of guy. So I think all that's important. We
Speaker 1: are already at thirty one minutes. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: get into these players here. My number one player that
Speaker 1: I watched on tape, and I watched eleven of these
Speaker 1: guys was elk Ao Minor from Stanford, the six foot two,
Speaker 1: two ten receiver who moves like a lot of the
Speaker 1: five foot ten, one hundred and seventy five pounds guys
Speaker 1: coming out that your boy falls in love with every
Speaker 1: single year.
Speaker 2: Go watch the Colorado tape.
Speaker 1: That's a top five pick cornerback that he was giving
Speaker 1: fits to all game long, and Travis Hunter. His release game,
Speaker 1: the purposefulness of each step, the way he condenses gaps
Speaker 1: and can hit an explosive stride from choppy steps in
Speaker 1: any direction with that body composition and play strength, this
Speaker 1: is my guy. If you try to arm tackle or
Speaker 1: don't bring your feet through, he'll bounce right off that
Speaker 1: hit and run away from you. I saw him win
Speaker 1: inside releases against inside leverage. I saw him take verticals
Speaker 1: against cover two and find that soft spot in the
Speaker 1: honey hole he blocks his butt off.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit shook.
Speaker 1: I have not seen him talked about as a first
Speaker 1: round pick, and I see a first round player on
Speaker 1: tape all day long.
Speaker 2: For this guy.
Speaker 1: A mecca Atgbuka from Ohio State is my number two receiver.
Speaker 1: He is either the best route runner on the class
Speaker 1: or second best behind Ao Minor, but surprise, he played
Speaker 1: for Brian Hartline at Ohio State. I love the way
Speaker 1: he comes out of his breaks and how he can
Speaker 1: utilize sharp footwork to make setup steps look like breaks.
Speaker 1: Like his setup step will make a cornerback like bail
Speaker 1: when they're trying to mirror and then he has one
Speaker 1: more move for them and it puts him in the
Speaker 1: complete spin cycle. He's outstanding on broken plays coming back
Speaker 1: to the football, very quarterback friendly that way, has clean
Speaker 1: hands he can pluck it off of his frame.
Speaker 2: He did damage from every.
Speaker 1: Single position and has exceptional body control and quiet and
Speaker 1: late hands to make him a real red zone threat.
Speaker 1: He's also got an awesome blocking reel. He's a fiery competitor,
Speaker 1: akin to what Malik Washington put on tape at Virginia.
Speaker 1: He also had that great clip of him instructing the
Speaker 1: Ohio State offense to throw the game winning go ball
Speaker 1: to Jeremiah Smith based on the Notre Dame cornerback leverage
Speaker 1: he had been showing on that drive. He is a
Speaker 1: late first round pick for me. That's when my first
Speaker 1: round pick's end. But I have a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: here that I'm kind of projecting more than I am
Speaker 1: going off the actual tape, and so I want you
Speaker 1: guys to be very well aware of that when you
Speaker 1: hear these next few names. Save Yon Williams from TCU,
Speaker 1: I put number three. If you want zero to sixty
Speaker 1: speed in short spaces, a high hurdler who can carry
Speaker 1: the football fifty times a year and be a wildcat
Speaker 1: short yard guy. I saw him leap over the pile
Speaker 1: on the goal line on a one yard touchdown run.
Speaker 1: I saw him split two safeties with ten yards of
Speaker 1: angles at him, and he just ran right by him
Speaker 1: and split them for a long touchdown. I saw him
Speaker 1: take wildcat snaps around the corner for touchdowns or just
Speaker 1: toast linebackers down the middle of the field for eighty
Speaker 1: yard touchdowns. You know, like this is the man. And
Speaker 1: of course when I watch prospects, I think how they
Speaker 1: might fit here, and I see some Devon eight Chan
Speaker 1: in terms of the suddenness, the competitiveness, the ability to
Speaker 1: play both from the backfield and from different alignments and
Speaker 1: run multiple routes from those alignments. And having watched the film,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this after before I went and looked
Speaker 1: at his.
Speaker 2: Name on Google.
Speaker 1: He's six foot four, two twenties, so he's not Devon
Speaker 1: eh Chan that way. You talk about sinking your hips too.
Speaker 1: He will square up the leverage, press the toes, then
Speaker 1: just snap the route. And did I mention he's six
Speaker 1: foot four. I think this might be the next quarter
Speaker 1: Ole Patterson, one of my favorite players I ever watched
Speaker 1: the entire process. I think he's a Day two pick
Speaker 1: all day long, and probably earlier than later. Isaiah Bond
Speaker 1: from Texas is number four. This is the position where
Speaker 1: I'm straying from group thing here because Bond moves on
Speaker 1: a different level than the other guys I watched that
Speaker 1: I've seen slotted in these positions of the rankings. His
Speaker 1: wiggle and balance to sustain acceleration while he dips around
Speaker 1: coverage or tacklers just jumps off the screen unlike anybody
Speaker 1: else I saw in this class. He's efficient, He's a
Speaker 1: smooth mover that can turn guys around and hit home
Speaker 1: runs when he gets the ball in his hands. He
Speaker 1: has some availability issues. That's why I think he falls
Speaker 1: onto into Day two. Number five is Jack Besh from TCU.
Speaker 1: We don't do character references here on these seconds because
Speaker 1: I don't know any of these players, but the tragic
Speaker 1: death of his brother gave us a peek into what
Speaker 1: his mindset is and how he's to me inherently driven.
Speaker 1: And I can validate that on the tape because he's
Speaker 1: the best blocker in the class, and that's not even
Speaker 1: close quite Frankly, he can also be the best contested
Speaker 1: ball receiver. And here's the kicker. I'm usually down on
Speaker 1: the big target who doesn't move super well, and I
Speaker 1: think he's above that threshold in terms of how he
Speaker 1: moves around the football field, hence this ranking in the
Speaker 1: top five strong hands, strong lower hand. I have to
Speaker 1: combat contact at all levels of the route. Every tackle
Speaker 1: on him is a tax on the defense. If you
Speaker 1: can even get him to the ground. He knows how
Speaker 1: to use his body to shield the defender away from
Speaker 1: the football, then he can hang on as they rake
Speaker 1: at his arms and try to get the incompletion. His
Speaker 1: game is strength, positioning and wanting it more than you.
Speaker 1: Big fan of his game, I think he hears his
Speaker 1: name on day two as well. Tees Johnson talk about
Speaker 1: a size discrepancy here. You know, I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: even at one fifty six. If he were one seventy,
Speaker 1: he'd be my top player on the board here. But
Speaker 1: nobody moves like him. You're probably not gonna get hands
Speaker 1: on him at the line of scrimmage. He can hit
Speaker 1: that hesy and eurostep like crossover as a ball carrier
Speaker 1: without losing acceleration. And at leads to a lot of
Speaker 1: long touchdowns. He went nuts in the postseason, turning short
Speaker 1: throws into big gains and getting vertical after Tank Dell
Speaker 1: and two to two at Will came out and had
Speaker 1: success at their size. I think his game will translate,
Speaker 1: but you just can't put him up on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and expect him to win. You probably have
Speaker 1: to use a lot of pre snap stuff like motion
Speaker 1: stacks and bunches ends a rounds, which kind of limits
Speaker 1: your offense if you have to do that, But you
Speaker 1: can manufacturer touches for this guy. I think he goes
Speaker 1: early Day three because of his size, but I think
Speaker 1: someone's gonna get a steal at that part of the
Speaker 1: draft with him. Number seven is Luther Burden, the third
Speaker 1: from Missouri. Some folks have him receiver one. I would
Speaker 1: stake my reputation on the idea of this guy being
Speaker 1: a high school running back, but then I watch the
Speaker 1: way he adjusts the ball in flight. It's like, oh, never, Bind,
Speaker 1: he's a receiver. He is so shifty with really good
Speaker 1: burst out of the blocks, and he can set up
Speaker 1: tacklers before he even secures the football. He's compactly built
Speaker 1: tacklers bounce off of him, screen game jet sweeps, deep
Speaker 1: overs verticals from the slot. He can help you be
Speaker 1: a three level threat offense in terms of short, intermedia
Speaker 1: and deep. I don't think he's super polished as a
Speaker 1: route runner. In fact, I think he has a long
Speaker 1: way to go there, but there is some creativity that
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the I don't care how
Speaker 1: you get there or just get their chan Gaily philosophy.
Speaker 1: But you can also lose some of your pattern with
Speaker 1: that as well, So he could be a bit of
Speaker 1: a burden on the offense no pun intended while he
Speaker 1: gets up to speed, but his ability to track and
Speaker 1: secure tight window vertical throws is why I think he
Speaker 1: could sneak into the first round. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: a top fifty pick. I wouldn't take him that high,
Speaker 1: but I think he probably does go that high. Matthew
Speaker 1: Golden from Texas, guys, where has the speed gone? The
Speaker 1: whole speed of this class besides Savian and Tez, it's
Speaker 1: kind of not there. I feel like the knock on
Speaker 1: all these guys of the saying that there's no high
Speaker 1: end speed and separators in this class until you get
Speaker 1: to the guys that weigh one hundred and fifty six
Speaker 1: pounds like Ted Johnson. He's probably the next best route
Speaker 1: runner behind Abuka in this class. But I've seen a
Speaker 1: handful that I think are a bit telegraphed or slow developing.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough living at the next level. Now,
Speaker 1: why was he so productive? He just competes to the
Speaker 1: catch point and makes a lot of tough catches. But
Speaker 1: that's always a tough evaluation because if it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in college, it's not going to happen in the pros
Speaker 1: against NFL cornerbacks. His body control off frame highlight reels
Speaker 1: are awesome. He's not physically imposing. He doesn't create a
Speaker 1: lot after the catch. He offers nothing as a blocker.
Speaker 1: This is like a day too limited player for me.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: A lot of prognostic aaries think he's a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. The next one to be
Speaker 1: the one that shocks the entire universe here in Ted
Speaker 1: McMillan from Arizona. I hate doing this on a player
Speaker 1: that's going to probably go in the first round, but
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think he's sloppy as
Speaker 1: hell on his routes, his releases, the way he sets
Speaker 1: up his moves is elongated. He consistently fails to hold
Speaker 1: the line on vertical shots. I'm watching the BYU tape
Speaker 1: and they throw different coverages at him and he has
Speaker 1: no chance to go anywhere ever, Like, that's not you
Speaker 1: have to beat double teams to be a number one
Speaker 1: in this league.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: There's a rep where they press him up the lines
Speaker 1: at the sideline and take him into the bench like
Speaker 1: he's covering a damn punt. It's a labored process for
Speaker 1: him to create separation, and quite frankly, the best catches
Speaker 1: he makes are blanketed by a college cornerback that doesn't
Speaker 1: get better in the pros. I came into the tape
Speaker 1: hoping to see Drake London, but I see more Devonte
Speaker 1: Parker or Dare I say keyon Coleman. I think this
Speaker 1: is the weakest top of the wide receiver class we've
Speaker 1: had in a while because of guys like this being
Speaker 1: pushed up, and I don't see it with this player.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna run a four or five. He's
Speaker 1: like your deep shot X backside receiver. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: I just don't think. I think he's a Day two
Speaker 1: pick at best, and I would even take him there.
Speaker 1: Number ten Shrey Harris from Old Miss. At his size
Speaker 1: six foot three two ten, he can sync the hips
Speaker 1: into his routes and really defeat man coverage with separation,
Speaker 1: which obviously pairs well with his ability to make plays
Speaker 1: when he's not open. Evident by his contested catch production,
Speaker 1: I think some of those fakes in his routes is
Speaker 1: part of guys being worried about him getting downhill, because
Speaker 1: once he's stacked you on a deep shot, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep up with him. I always
Speaker 1: question how the type of movement works at the next level,
Speaker 1: but I think the run after the catch and boundary
Speaker 1: vertical game is good enough to get him NFL production,
Speaker 1: even if the route running is not up to standard.
Speaker 1: But I think it could be with some work. I
Speaker 1: have him as an early Day three pick. Jalen Royal's
Speaker 1: out of Utah State also have him on the third day.
Speaker 1: He's got some Albert Wilson to his build in terms
Speaker 1: of the tree trunk legs and the strength he plays with.
Speaker 1: He's a monster with the ball in his hands and
Speaker 1: in the screen game quick enough to reduce the target
Speaker 1: and run by corners. And that physicality plays at the
Speaker 1: catch point and off the last scrimmage as well. When
Speaker 1: I watch him as a route runner, I see a
Speaker 1: student of the game that understands the importance of running
Speaker 1: his route at proper depth, good pacing into zone, and
Speaker 1: just a general feel for the coverage that he's facing.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll run a super quick time at
Speaker 1: the combine, and that with some production dips at a
Speaker 1: program that show go to quarterback, including playing at the
Speaker 1: smaller school, I think makes him a Day three pick.
Speaker 2: That's my time on the show here. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and get out of here.
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