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Speaker 3: Knox in for Colin. You can listen to this show

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Speaker 3: talking about the feel good moment in Los Angeles with

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Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand and then the reality

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Speaker 3: of waking up and realizing you're also probably a Laker fan,

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Speaker 3: which sucks, but again, you know is what it is.

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Speaker 3: That being said, we now turn over to somebody else

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Speaker 3: in the world of football who knows a thing or

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Speaker 3: two about dysfunction. That would be none other than Nebraska

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Speaker 3: head coach Matt Ruhle, your former teammate at Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Lebar you guys are men. Yeah, you guys are real

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Speaker 3: nice to him. In practice, I'm sure we had a

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Speaker 3: good time with Matt. Matt was a special teams guy.

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Speaker 3: He was a special situations person. Yeah, it's super super

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Speaker 3: intelligent football player. Again, I credit him with a lot

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Speaker 3: of things that I learned as a freshman. How you know,

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Speaker 3: I knew how to study film to a certain degree.

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Speaker 3: In high school, had pretty good, good program I had

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Speaker 3: very quickly how much of the educational part of football

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Speaker 3: and your information in your notes. Matt. Matt Ruhle did

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Speaker 3: an excellent job of sitting with me and us learning that.

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Speaker 3: You know, my freshman year there was his last year there.

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Speaker 3: But it turns out it translated into him being a

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Speaker 3: So he was talking with Greg McElroy on the Always

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Speaker 3: College Football podcast, and he says that the experience in

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Speaker 4: Certain thing you learn when you're in the NFL is

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Speaker 3: So that was Matt Ruhle talking about the contractual similarities

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Speaker 3: point to that is is that when it's the pros,

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Speaker 7: I don't know you feel that way, you know? So

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Speaker 7: I think where they are right now, toront Armstead retires,

434
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Speaker 7: Ramsey's traded, I think they would listen on Tyreek Hill.

435
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Speaker 7: They've got some holes and the roster they didn't have before.

436
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 7: Two edge rushers I'm both having dealt with very serious injuries,

437
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Speaker 7: and Bradley Chubb and and Jalen Phillips like I just

438
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Speaker 7: think if you look at the team, you say yourself, like,

439
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Speaker 7: how many of these guys are going to be here

440
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Speaker 7: in two years? I think you can name two guys

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Speaker 7: to me, it's It's It's it's Jalen Waddle and it's

442
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Speaker 7: Chop Robinson. And other than those two, I don't know

443
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Speaker 7: how many guys are going to be there, you know,

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty seven. So I think this is a

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Speaker 7: natural spot for them to retool and rebuild. And to me, like,

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Speaker 7: that's moving Ramsey and Johnny Smith's contract, Doctor Ledger, moving

447
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 7: those problems, Doctor Ledger, And I wouldn't read too much

448
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Speaker 7: into the wall or thing other than that's just a

449
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Speaker 7: way to try to stop gap a hole that you

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Speaker 7: created by trading Johnny Smith.

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Speaker 3: What you said two people, you didn't say three. So

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Speaker 3: should I assume that includes coaches as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Mean, well I guess I should say two. Also, right, Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying tua, I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: What about the jokes? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What about the job? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, I know, I think that's fair. I mean, I

459
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Speaker 7: look like I does he have some security? Yeah, he

460
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 7: just signed an extension last year. Do I feel like

461
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Speaker 7: for sure he's going to be there in twenty twenty seven.

462
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Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, I mean it's I mean,

463
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Speaker 7: if if you're looking at potentially getting rid of the

464
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Speaker 7: general manager, Chris Career, who's been there for a long time,

465
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Speaker 7: does that come with like a complete reset of the organization,

466
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Speaker 7: I don't know. And I think Mike's for the most

467
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Speaker 7: part's done a really nice job, you know, I mean

468
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Speaker 7: was where they are versus where they were when he

469
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Speaker 7: got there, Like they've made a lot of progress, and

470
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Speaker 7: the culture there has been for the most part until

471
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Speaker 7: last year was was good and he fixed a lot

472
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Speaker 7: of things there he got into the playoffs. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, like I don't know. I mean, if you're

474
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Speaker 7: going through a roster retool, you know, and all of

475
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Speaker 7: a sudden you're a four or a five win team,

476
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Speaker 7: we could be talking about something.

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Speaker 3: Else in tire Albert Breer with US Year on Fox

478
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. How is it going to play out with

479
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Speaker 3: the fact that thirty of thirty two second round picks

480
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Speaker 3: are still unsigned because two guys got fully guaranteed deals

481
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Speaker 3: and everybody else is like, why should I sign something

482
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Speaker 3: different than them?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 3: How do you think this all plays out? With training

485
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Speaker 3: camp right around the corner.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's just it sort of depends on,

487
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 7: like you know, each one of these deals, and when

488
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Speaker 7: the first person does a deal that isn't fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 7: And and the lynchpin right now is Tyler Shuck the

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks and the Saints who look, I have to look

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Speaker 7: it up. He was he thirty five thirty six. I

492
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 7: think he might have been thirty sixth overall, But that's

493
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Speaker 7: the one everybody's waiting for because that comes with the

494
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Speaker 7: quarterback premium, right and then Quinchohn Judkins is right there.

495
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Speaker 7: And so if you're Judkins and you see the Carson

496
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Speaker 7: Schwassinger who want a couple of picks before you got

497
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Speaker 7: a fully guaranteed deal from the Browns, you're gonna be

498
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Speaker 7: looking for the same thing from the Browns, you know.

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Speaker 7: So there are a couple up there.

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Speaker 3: Shuck was forty, by the way, pick forty.

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Speaker 7: Chuck was four. Okay, so all right, so Shuck was forty.

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Speaker 7: So like you're talking about like Shuck, like there's the

503
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 7: people are waiting on Shuck as the quarterback premium, and

504
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Speaker 7: does the quarterback at the fully guaranteed deal, because if

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Speaker 7: the quarterback is the full guaranteed deal at forty And

506
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry I mixed that up, but if Shuck is

507
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Speaker 7: a fully guaranteed deal at forty, then everybody before forty

508
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Speaker 7: is going to ask for it. So if you were

509
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 7: picked before forty, you're waiting on that, right Like Meanwhile,

510
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Speaker 7: on the other end of the spectrum, it's thirty five

511
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 7: and again I have to look up who was thirty five?

512
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Speaker 7: Was that Judkins.

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Speaker 3: Em and Worry from Southminorial and.

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Speaker 7: Then Judkins was thirty six? Right? Yeah, So Judkins of

515
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: course has the fact that the sweassenger got the fully

516
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Speaker 7: guaranteed deal, so now he wants what his teammate got

517
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Speaker 7: em and Wauria of course is going to wait to

518
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 7: see if the Browns double double down on what they

519
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Speaker 7: did with Sweastnger with Judkins and then you get the

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Speaker 7: quarterback four picks after that. Thank you for organizing.

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Speaker 3: Well, but is there? And I want to ask you

522
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Speaker 3: this is there because now it feels like Jimmy haslm's

523
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: done it again to where he's done the guaranteed deal

524
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Speaker 3: and put everybody in a bad spot, like what is

525
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Speaker 3: what's the opinion of him around the league? From from

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Speaker 3: owners and people that are in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Well, it wasn't him, right or was he thirty three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy, yeah, that was a Sweassinger.

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Speaker 7: Thirty three or thirty thirty three right, Judkins is thirty

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Speaker 7: six and okay, okay, now I have it strict because

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Speaker 7: but but it wasn't him actually, because it was the

532
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Speaker 7: Texans receiver Higgins, Stiggins, Higgins from Iowa state that we

533
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 7: got the first one. So Higgins got it and then

534
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Speaker 7: Swastnger got his deal as a result of what Higgins did.

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Speaker 7: That's what the timeline was. I think, I think, I think,

536
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, Swastngers signed

537
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Speaker 7: one day after Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, and so now and and.

539
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Speaker 7: So that's what created the whole. I knew it was

540
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 7: the Texans that that that that created it. So it's

541
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Speaker 7: not Jimmy in particular. But if he does two fully

542
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Speaker 7: guaranteed deals for got the top of the second round,

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, you do get some side as

544
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Speaker 7: because of it.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, speaking

546
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Speaker 3: of I mean speaking of guarantees and contracts in Ohio,

547
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Speaker 3: are has there been any movement on the defensive line

548
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: you know, that's the the rookie end. With Hendrickson the

549
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: veteran have have Has there been any movement on Cincinnati

550
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: closing that down?

551
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Speaker 7: Yes, So with Hendrickson, I think it's just a complicated

552
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 7: situation that's kind of you hit the pause button on

553
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 7: it now while the NFL's I'm breaking. They'll pick it

554
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 7: up when they get back. There have been discussions. I

555
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 7: don't think they're necessarily close. And you know, really there

556
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 7: are two things here. Number one is the wrong number,

557
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 7: which has gotten really big. Right, So you can say

558
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 7: he's not worth what Miles Garrett or what Miles Garrett got,

559
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 7: or what what Michah Parsons will get. But then he

560
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 7: is in the same category as guys like Max Crosby,

561
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Speaker 7: and and and and the' Neil Hunter who just got

562
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Speaker 7: into the mid thirties on third contract.

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Speaker 3: Can I stop you there? Can I stop you?

564
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Speaker 4: There?

565
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Speaker 3: Is it safe to say that you can't put him

566
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Speaker 3: in the same category as Miles Garrett If you look statistically,

567
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Speaker 3: it's comparable and they are around the same age.

568
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Speaker 7: He is he is. I just think Miles Garrett's seen

569
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Speaker 7: a different on a different on a different level.

570
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, but production is production. I mean,

571
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Speaker 3: you can you could score twenty points here, they could

572
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Speaker 3: score twenty.

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Speaker 7: Here's what I'm saying, LeVar, LeVar, he's going to be.

574
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Speaker 7: He has to be in the mid thirties. Look at

575
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Speaker 7: like wero thecounter of the line. Okay, So there's that

576
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 7: part of it. So there's that part of it. And

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Speaker 7: then the second part of it is structure, right, like

578
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 7: where the Bengals have had these strict rules about structure

579
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Speaker 7: over the years. And the thing that complicates this one

580
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 7: is that they did the two receiver contracts right. They

581
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 7: broke their rules to do a deal for Jamar Chase.

582
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Speaker 7: They didn't break their rules to do T Higgins right,

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Speaker 7: So Chase got a deal with a little bit more

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Speaker 7: from a structure standpoint, like Burrow and Higgins was more

585
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Speaker 7: of the traditional deal the Bengals have done. So now

586
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Speaker 7: you look at those two guys, which one do you

587
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: do for Hendrickson?

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00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: So that one's complicated. And then the shamar Sewart thing,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I it's it's it's about default. It's about

591
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 7: the default language on the guarantees. And this one is

592
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 7: relatively black and white. Now I think what's what will

593
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 7: be interesting is are the Bengals that head set on

594
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 7: setting a new precedent where they're going to give Stuart

595
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 7: sweeteners to get him to take it? And does Stuart

596
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 7: have to worry about what that's going to mean in

597
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 7: the locker room for him and with other players for

598
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 7: him if he's setting a bad contractual precedent for other players.

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00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 7: So that one, I think, I think that one will

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Speaker 7: get done. But it's just sort of a matter of

601
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Speaker 7: who bunks first.

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Speaker 3: Jeez abe, we appreciate it. Enjoy the fourth of July holiday.

603
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Speaker 3: Stay safe out there. I mean you got you got

604
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: great whites swimming around you. There's all sorts of shenanigans

605
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Speaker 3: taking place, so be safe.

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Speaker 2: I will.

607
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 7: I will report back to you guys if I get bitten.

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Speaker 7: How about that?

609
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Speaker 3: No, don't do that. Just we'll read about it and

610
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: we'll send you get well, get well wishes.

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Speaker 7: Man.

612
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: And they come in, Hey, they come in closer than

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Speaker 3: three feet, bro, I know that hold three feet when

614
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 3: jobs came out, they come in.

615
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 7: They come in closer, closer, the great Whites, closer than

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Speaker 7: people think. For sure.

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Speaker 3: You're right, man, don't don't you know boogie Boarton is fun.

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Speaker 3: Don't try to surf out there, and you know what,

619
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Speaker 3: if you can't see your feet, you're too deep. That's

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Speaker 3: all I'm gonna tell you that. Yeah, all right, all right,

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Speaker 3: well be.

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Speaker 2: Not ours.

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Speaker 3: I mean, otherwise you might lose a leg or a

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Speaker 3: limb to to pay that cost. Can't we can't have that.

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Speaker 7: I love going in the ocean, so it's hard for me,

626
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 7: but I have to be Yeah, you're right, it's I

627
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 7: have to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, listen, enjoy it, enjoying the time with the fam,

629
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Speaker 3: and then we'll do it again next week. There is

630
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Speaker 3: Albert Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio, Amazon,

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Speaker 3: NFL on Prime Insider, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

632
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Speaker 3: at the m m QB. Okay, that's wild. Imagine having

633
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: your kid out there for surf. I don't want to

634
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: really bring it up while AB was on, but it's

635
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: like it's like your your devices read your brain from

636
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: from now because your algorithm comes up on like what

637
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about something about sharks for some reason,

638
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: and the the video of the kid in the water

639
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Speaker 3: in Egypt hollering for his dad while he was getting

640
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: attacked by a shark. I just saw the video yesterday.

641
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 3: Real video or no, it's a real video. Oh yeah,

642
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: in the in the boat had just got to the

643
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: point of trying to save him when the shark took

644
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Speaker 3: him under, Like the kid is hollering for his dad

645
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: and the shark took him money. I just saw that

646
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: video yesterday. I'll pull it up for you on the

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Speaker 3: break as if you want to see it. It's a

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Speaker 3: little it's it's it's it's sad because I recall it

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Speaker 3: being on when it hit on, like CNN, they were

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Speaker 3: like showing it, showing it on the news. That's how

651
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Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't AI. I mean, AI has messed

652
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: up everything because you don't know if anything's true or

653
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: folks anymore. So this was actually a real, real situation

654
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: where some type of a shark. I don't know what

655
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: type of shark it was, but it it definitely had

656
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: its way with little buddy and it was the that

657
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 3: was the end. Yeah, yeah, I'm like like this serment. Yeah,

658
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: not going to the water. I'm good. Everybody have fun

659
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: with that. Do what you want. Like I said, I

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: put my feet in the sand and half the time

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00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: out here, depending on the time of the year, I'm

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00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: not even facing the water. I'm facing the volleyball nets.

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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: You know, well, what's over there. I mean some people

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Speaker 3: do things ass backwards, and I refuse to be the one,

665
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So the water I'll turn

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: around when these professional volleyball tournaments is over. I'm not

667
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: looking at the waives. I'm looking at the hills cannon.

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Speaker 3: It is two pros and a cup of Joe filling

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Speaker 3: in for the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,

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Speaker 3: Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next here in

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Speaker 3: another edition of the Herdline News, We've got the latest

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Speaker 3: scandal in the world of sports right here on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: We should open a restaurant between the four of us

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Speaker 3: and call it weak Bellies, Damn Boots for those who

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Speaker 3: have weak bellies. It would make sense. Two pros and

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Speaker 3: a cup of Joe in for the Herd. Here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, it's LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox in

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Speaker 3: for Colin. Coming up top of next hour. We will

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Speaker 3: call it a little over twelve minutes from now. One

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Speaker 3: team has made a decision, and it feels like a

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Speaker 3: decision they could have made a long ass time ago.

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Speaker 3: That'll be yours here again a little over twelve minutes

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Speaker 3: from now. Before we get to this, the latest edition

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Speaker 3: of The Herdline News. A reminder that even though you're

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Speaker 3: listening to us now, did you know you can also

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Speaker 3: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 8: All right, Ryan Music, you got some news that a

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Speaker 8: Major League Baseball that's right. Luis Ortiz of the Cleveland

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Speaker 8: Guardians under investigation by the MLB for breaking the league's

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 8: rules on sports gambling. This, according to the SPN, yes

699
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Speaker 8: being placed on the non disciplinary list paid leave through

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Speaker 8: at least July seventeenth. It's going to conclude at the

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Speaker 8: All Star break. This was negotiated on the MLB and

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00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 8: the players Association could be extended longer if the investigation

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Speaker 8: remains open.

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Speaker 3: Past that date, it's wonderful, just wonderful because then you know,

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00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: it humanizes these guys. You know a lot of people think, well,

706
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: they're a professional athlete, they're above me. No, they're just

707
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: like you, degenerates like to gamble, Like to add a

708
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: little bit of that hot sauce on a game that

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00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: otherwise is pretty dull and uninteresting, throw a prop at

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 3: on it. Next thing, you know, all of a sudden,

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: that game matters that much more. You know, anyone who's

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00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: getting busted in professional sports on sports gambling, you're dummy.

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: What only we need to call it this point, at

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: this point, I'm sorry, at this point, we need to

715
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: call names here. What if you're getting busted and you're

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00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: making at least four hundred thousand, right like minimum wages,

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00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: somewhere around like four hundred and a half a million,

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Speaker 3: and you're getting busted at this point in twenty twenty

719
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Speaker 3: five in sports gambling, as a pro player or even

720
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: a college player, you're a dummy. You're dumb, and whatever

721
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: happens to you, it was meant to happen. Nature took

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Speaker 3: its course. I'm sorry. Stop getting in trouble over gambling

723
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Speaker 3: and hit women stuff. Like that. Oh yeah, I mean,

724
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's just it's dumb. I just I like

725
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: people that you ain't worth mackay. Did people see one

726
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: of these pop up and they go, oh god, it's

727
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: going to poison the sport. It's gonna No, it's not. Okay,

728
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: there's you can always count on some screw off in

729
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: every room that you walk into. It's not going to

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00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: poison the sport. They're just a couple of guys who

731
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Speaker 3: had to scratch the edge. How much you think that

732
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: dude's making. How much you think is his contract is

733
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: worth the pitch for the Guardians? Yeah, I mean at

734
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: least you know, a few hundred grand. All right, Hey,

735
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: mortgages are expensive, Well get one that you can afford

736
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: with your contract. What you want to do? You got

737
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: to go start sports gambling to be able to afford

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Speaker 3: their bills. You're living beyond your means.

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Speaker 8: He's currently on a one year, seven hundred and eighty

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Speaker 8: thousand dollars contract.

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Speaker 3: All right, are you going gamble out of way? Had

742
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: they given him an extra hundred thousand, he would now

743
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: to go to these extents to to get the extra cash.

744
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean crazy, I mean, by the way, is he

745
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: betting on actual Major League Baseball games? Or does he

746
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: have like his own little you know, sports book his

747
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: locker in Cleveland and he's he's taking w n b

748
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: A wagers Like, uh, hey, doy, y'all want the mistakes?

749
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Speaker 3: Oh what what? What? What is he? What's his name?

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Speaker 3: Luis Ortiz? That ain't how you sound, man, That ain't

751
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: how you sound. When he was asking, I can guarantee

752
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: that same man. People get sick, Hey, Mike, They get

753
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: so paranoid. Hey, hey, Mike. He gets so paranoid about

754
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: this stuff, like, oh my god, it's gonna it's gonna

755
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: ruin sports. No, gambling's always been here, it's just now.

756
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Speaker 3: Guys are like, oh, I can do it for my phone, Like,

757
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 3: oh I could, I could just for my phone. Stay

758
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: away from gamble. If your pro athletes stay away from gambling. Done.

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00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: There's us a few things you stay away from, and

760
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: that's one of them. Done. You go towards it, you

761
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: go in it, you get caught. I don't have any

762
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: sympathy sports. Go Ron what you got. All right, We'll

763
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: turn our attention to the NBA.

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Speaker 8: The Bucks shocked the NBA world when they waved and

765
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Speaker 8: stretched to Damian Lillard. Now he's a free agent to

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Speaker 8: sign with whoever, and according to the Athletic, three teams

767
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 8: have emerged as the top potential landing spots, the Golden

768
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 8: State Warriors, Boston Celtics, and Jonas Knox's Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you know I could use all the help.

770
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: I'd love to see good things happen. Why wouldn't.

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: He's not playing.

772
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 3: This year though, so it's like a futures contract. That's

773
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: the current reporting.

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 8: I guess the idea is that he will be in

775
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 8: some type of healthy playing shape by the postseason.

776
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Speaker 3: Or they will bring him in and rehab him. I

777
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: don't see what. I guess. He's good enough where you

778
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: feel like, if you can get him right now, just

779
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: go ahead and get him and hold him until he's

780
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: he's healthy and ready to go. But I don't know

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: if I was one of those fan base at if

782
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: I was one of those fan based who are the teams?

783
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: It's the Warriors, Celtics, Lakers. Correct, all right, Celtics could

784
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: use them, but they I mean, you're dealing with one Gaile,

785
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna add another Gailes.

786
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 8: Gailey's replaced six weeks earlier.

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00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: Is that reab cheaper if it's two for one? Maybe

788
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: that's what it is, Like, I want to get one

789
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: fifty get too bad as ballplayers both the same time.

790
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: I'd like some immediate answers like what about this year,

791
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: like and is there any help coming this year?

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00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: That is crazy, ar bizarre