1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. We sure hope you 3 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: enjoyed Royals who Died Ridiculous. That's part one, because this 4 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: is part two. So this is part two of a 5 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: continuing series. So this is like part one, part two, Right, 6 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: is this gonna be like idiomatic for the people? Yeah, 7 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: well it'll be like a ongoing, serious, an occasional ongoing series. 8 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: That's Noel Brown and shout out. Shout out to our 9 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: super producer and search associate, Mr Max Williams, shout out 10 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: to my tiny cup of espresso to I feel like 11 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: it's a little cup and it makes me looks powerful. 12 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: It's very just so it's my hands look huge. And uh, 13 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, as as we said previously, we are going 14 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: to be taking the next week off to hang with 15 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: some loved wins, get some R and R and um 16 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: probably probably do some more research. Honestly, I'm really I'm 17 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: really hyped about an upcoming episode called Leafblower, The Rise 18 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: of a Supervillain. Uh, the Reckoning, the reckoning feature, Uh, 19 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: leaf Blower Apart two, the blow it In. Uh. But 20 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you know what under appreciated use of a leaf blower 21 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: is by the way, in special effects. If you ever 22 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: see in movies that part where like someone gets sucked 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: into a vortex or you know some mystical you know 24 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: thing as a foot and their cheeks start, you know, 25 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: that is usually a leafblower pointed directly at someone's mouth. 26 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: That makes sense, That makes sense. We should do a 27 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: history of fully work as well, because are all geniuses. Yeah, well, 28 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: because it used to be you know, that all started 29 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: like I guess, in radio plays and when it was 30 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: all done live, and then it's sort of like an 31 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: art that has sort of continued over the years and 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: not become irrelevant because you know, you can have canned 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, sound effects, like we we have library subscriptions here, 34 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the podcast network that we use for 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: fiction type shows. But usually in you know, higher production 36 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: films and television, it's somebody in a booth clippity clopping 37 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: coconuts together while watching the horse galloping, making a metal 38 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: sheet for that thunder sounds, or hanging out and what's 39 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: called a fully pit, which is usually like a sandbox 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of situation for getting footsteps that might be pebbles 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: in there or sand or whatever. It might be depending 42 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: on the terrain. Uh. It's fascinating stuff and I have 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: the delight once um as part of the Drawn the 44 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: History of Animation podcast I did with Holly for Back 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: in the Day to visit a real folly studio here 46 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and it was just a delight to see 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: all the little trinkets and things that people like that 48 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: have to amass over the years. Alex and Matt for 49 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: some of the horror stories, big shout out to Twelve 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Ghosts of Christmas, the UM Christmas themed horror anthology, of 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: which you wrote a wonderful story, ben Um for a 52 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of the fully work they do, and our buddy 53 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Chris Child's has done on that series. Yes, Chris, if 54 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: you were tuning in UM, you know I've always said 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: for for those sorts of shows, sound design is another 56 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: character show, you know, in the theater of the mind 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: that is fiction. Audio weird can't be heavy handed, you know. 58 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: It has to be delicate. It has to serve the 59 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: scene and not draw attention to itself, Otherwise it kind 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of defeats the purpose, you know. Yeah, like sesame oil 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: or saffron and a little goes a long way, uh, 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: And and this, Uh, this is a conversation that has 63 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: absolutely thing to do with today's episode. We're always just 64 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: when Yeah, you know, you never know. When the four 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: of us get together, that means us and you listening 66 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: at home. Uh, we inevitably end up pitching each other ideas. 67 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: We have some of the most zany and off the 68 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: rails pitch meetings. Uh. And this idea of royals who 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: died ridiculous deaths came out of one of these conversations. 70 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: You never know what we're gonna end up using. One 71 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: of One of the things I wanted to ask you 72 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: guys as a way to get into our first example 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of a royal who ended life in a weird way, 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: was this. If you could have any sort of animal 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: as a pet in the world, what would it be. 76 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Do you have an automatic pick helper monkey, cappibera chill 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: helper monkey, useful? Productive? I like it. I like it. 78 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: If you're a king, it's good to be king. Uh, 79 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: you can have your pick of the litter. Would comes 80 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: to pets and animal companions, and you'll recall to we've 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: done an episode. I mean, I think they's even more 82 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: than one. On presidential pets. Some go more all in 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: than others, you know, but they'll just admitted. I mean, 84 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the president is kind of the King of America for 85 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. So today the subtitle of today's story, 86 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: or the first of today's stories is the King, his 87 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: dog and a minky to to to say it in 88 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the style of a yeah, yeah, shocked the monkey whatever 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: any other numerous monkey references that we could pull from. 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: We're talking about Alexander, the King of Greece born July 91 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety three. He reigned long may He reigned long 92 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: long ish No, not really actually a couple of years 93 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: from nineteen seventeen the nineteen twenty We're gonna see why 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: it was. His reign was cut brutally short. He was 95 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: the second son of King Constantine and Queen Sophia. Uh. 96 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: He became the king June twelfth of nineteen seventeen, when 97 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: his dad was forced by the Allies during World War 98 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: One to give up or abdicate his throne um and 99 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: allow his country to join into the war. After Alexander's uh, 100 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, succession, Eluthorios venez Zelos Okay, again once again 101 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: doing the best we can do in our level best 102 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: as non Greeks. Um. It's pronouncing some of these names. 103 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: There's some little accent marks that I think I'm probably 104 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: not doing quite Ramturre again. Eltharios venez Zelios, I think 105 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: that's probably as close as I'm gonna get. He became 106 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: a new position there in Greece, no longer the king, 107 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: but the premier of Greece, and he essentially, you know, 108 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: was the actual ruler, while Alexander was kind of just 109 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: like the ruler in name or sort of more of 110 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: a figure head, you know, kind of like the queen 111 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: versus the prime minister. Right, And this guy pulls Greece 112 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: into the war, also pulls them into global politics in 113 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: a way that um was remarkably effective, right in comparison 114 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: to what was happening previously. He has this he you know, 115 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: he sends his crew to the peace conference, they've got 116 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: some diplomatic triumphs, they get some new territory, which every 117 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: country loves. They get specifically the territories of Smyrna. And 118 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: that's not Smyrna, Georgia. It's a totally different Smyrna felt 119 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the same, though I think he felt the same. We'll 120 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: let you guess which one came first, folks. Congratulations, you 121 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: got it, uh, and then they get part of Turkey 122 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: and Bulgaria. This gives Alexander the possibility, the opportunity to 123 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: expand Greece even further into Anatolia. But before he is 124 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: able to make that ream a reality, his monkey betrays him, 125 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: does his royal leafblower. Who's who's making an appearance in 126 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: the podcasts, Yeah, Dulce tones, he's hot on the heels 127 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: of the quister man. I'm telling you. Uh So, here's 128 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: what happens. It's October two n Alexander, who is king 129 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and his relatively young is walking around Athens and he's 130 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: a he's a pet guy. You know. He's got his dog, Fritz. 131 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: He's also running into a monkey, and this monkey is 132 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: not actually his It is the pet monkey of a servant, Fritz, 133 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: it turns out, is not a fan of monkeys. Fritz 134 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: and the monkey get beefed up and they start to like, 135 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're going at each other. Right. Um, it's 136 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: a it's a straight on monkey dog fight. Alexander doesn't 137 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: like it. He's a decent dude. He doesn't want to 138 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: see animals fighting unnecessarily. He jumps in the midst of this, 139 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: this one on one match, the scuffle, and uh, the 140 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: monkey is not holding back. He's like, you know what, 141 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: I hate your dog, and if you're down with your dog, 142 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I hate you too, that's right. Rather than trying to 143 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: stir the beef, Alexander is trying to squash the beef, 144 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: and he uh sustains injuries as a result. Monkey bites, 145 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: not the cute kind that that couples might do, you know, 146 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: a little nibble. Uh, this is these are serious chomps 147 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: that he receives, quite a few of them, in fact. 148 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: But Alexander doesn't bristle at this. You know, He's like, 149 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: it's fine, no big deal, exactly, very similar to our 150 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: boy uh in the first episode, you know who got 151 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: bit by the severed head. He's thinking, nah, this is nothing, 152 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I barely even noticed, right, So he just kind of 153 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: went went about his merry way. But you know, again, 154 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: the mouth of a human is pretty disgusting and often 155 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: full of bacteria and uh, you know, and all other 156 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: sorts of nasties. Monkeys don't brush their teeth last time 157 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I checked it. But it's not their natural thing, not 158 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: their natural state. Um, so I'm going to make a 159 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: wild conjecture here that this monkey's mouth was absolutely crawling 160 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: with infectious bacteria. Dirty monkey mouth at a dirty old 161 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: bunky mouth. Uh and uh, and Alexander's seemingly innocuous wounds 162 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: became horribly infected. Yeah, sepsis. Uh. We want to thank 163 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: the New York Times for a great recap of this. 164 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: He is weakening, his body is failing, his pulse is 165 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: becoming fainter and fainter. He's having difficulty breathing, and his 166 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: doctors eventually keep in mind, this is one of the 167 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: most important men in Greece. His doctors go, I don't 168 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: know if we could save this one. And so it 169 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: came to pass that on October, King Alexander of Greece died. 170 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: And just like our friend from episode one who died 171 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: of over indulgence, who died of over eating, Alexander's death 172 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: affected the political spectrum of Greece. It had far reaching consequences, 173 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: just a chain of events that led to disaster in 174 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: the military field. Uh. Winston Churchill eventually remarked because the 175 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill right, not a perfect dude by any means, right, Uh, 176 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: death could turn a phrase, though he sure could you know, 177 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: it's like Madam tomorrow, I will be sober and you'll 178 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: still be ugly. That's our boy, Winston, he says stuff 179 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: like that, and so he quipped, is perhaps no exaggeration 180 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: to remark that the quota of a million persons died 181 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: of these monkeys bites once again, shout out saw the 182 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: UK listeners out there, who who tied us on our 183 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: British accents. I love it. That's my point. Can I 184 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: say that's the point we we go extra cartoonist with 185 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: them as not to offend any modern day Brits. Yeah, 186 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: unless we attempt to actually impersonate what you know they 187 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: sound like to this day. So we do over the 188 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: top absurd you know, go pick a pocket or to 189 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: my love type of accents. For that very reason, wanted 190 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: to point point that out there again. Also we're the 191 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: ones with the accents. We're aware of that also true, 192 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, correct, correct, And I will say kudos to 193 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you Brits British actors for being fabulous at doing American 194 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: accents while the opposites is just not the case. I 195 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: don't know how that works, but shots fired by me 196 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: at American actors, you never really see them being cast 197 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: as British characters. But man, I'm always shocked when I 198 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: see behind the scenes interviews and I'm like, he's British 199 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: Lewis the whole time. Christian Dale also Kauto Eieves is 200 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: counter example. I was I was rewatching Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula, 201 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: which I was so bad comic book come to life. 202 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: But you know, and and we love counter Reeves. He 203 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: seems like a really awesome person, but uh not with 204 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the Boston sleeps is just no no that. And also like, 205 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: I mean, what's it, uh Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves ol, 206 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: He just kind of drifts in and out of an 207 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: already lackluster British accent sometimes doesn't even bother with it. 208 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Uh that's the one for the books for sure. But yeah, 209 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: indeed Churchill got it right. This monkey bite really are 210 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: these monkey bites plural really did cause a serious amount 211 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: of of suffering in the country, and to the tune 212 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: of a quarter of a million deaths. So that's a 213 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: far reaching monkey bite right there. Yeah, he went out 214 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: with a bite, unlike our next example of ridiculous royal death, 215 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: William the Conqueror, who went out with a bang. We 216 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: talked about street names in episode one, those sort of 217 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: uh royal monikers you get. Uh. Sometimes they're very complimentary, 218 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: like Alexander the Great or William the Conqueror. And sometimes 219 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: they're you know, historical dishes, you know, like Tony the Midling. 220 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: That's just that's just an example which I love. If 221 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: there is a Tony the Midling, I'm sorry, Oh yeah, 222 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure you came by it. Honestly, William the Bastard 223 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: was it was it was a choice one that he had. Um. 224 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, usually they have kind of like a smattering 225 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: of names and then usually imagine they'll go with the 226 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: one that's the most flattering, uh, William of Normandy, sort 227 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: of the innocuous name, just sort of a descriptive. William 228 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the Conqueror probably the one that he liked the best. 229 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: William the Bastard probably was upset when people called him that. 230 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Probably one that was more you know, done in hushed tones, 231 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, um and yeah. And in French, let's see, 232 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: we'll make casey pegram, ashamed, gull, conquer con or gooya 233 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: or good Sorry Guillaume, it's Guillaume. I'm saying it right now. 234 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: It's Guillaume de Normandy Uh. He was born in ten 235 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: eight in uh Falaise, Uh, Normandy, France. They're famous for 236 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: their their milk uh and their cows, the quality of 237 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: their cows, which is why I believe Normandy has really 238 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: really famous crapes. They're really known for the because the 239 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: course of the quality of the milk and then all 240 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: that good stuff. So he was the Duke of Normandy 241 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: from ten thirty five and then became King of England 242 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: from ten sixty six, and he was considered a very 243 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: very uh qualified and capable soldier and one of the 244 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: better rulers of the Middle Ages, which is the time 245 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: that was lousy with with terrible rulers, absolute pills you 246 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,239 Speaker 1: know that really didn't give two shakes for human life. Yeah, yeah, Unfortunately, 247 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: it's true, and he did change the Court of England's history. 248 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: He left this fundamental mark on both Normandy and England. 249 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: He had a lot of drive and tenacity and will, 250 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: and he also had a lot of luck. Let's be honest. 251 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: He was able to survive chaos in his youth in 252 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Normandy and he brought this place to uh a remarkable 253 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: state of regional power. He also supported some crucial reforms 254 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: to the monastic system. He made good with church leaders, 255 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: you could say, which furthered his influence, and he adopted 256 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: a number of Anglo Saxon institutions. Uh, he continued some 257 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: trends that had begun before his time. But like said 258 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: an episode one man, you can do a hundred good things. 259 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: And if you do, if you if you have one 260 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: misstep and it happens to be ridiculous, than sometimes that's 261 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: how history remembers you. We could go on and on 262 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: about William the Conqueror, but instead of telling you about 263 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: his life, let's explore his death. Now. No, he died 264 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: after a battle right in ten s That's right, Ben, 265 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: And uh you'll recall my reference to Mr Creosote, the 266 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Monty Python character who explodes due to over eating. And 267 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: then we had a kingly overindulger who didn't explode but 268 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: ate himself to death in episode one, essentially after you 269 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: know already overdoing it and then you know, eating one 270 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: thing too many that led to intestinal rupture to some 271 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: degree or the very least digestive failure um that led 272 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: to his his untimely demise. And uh, this one doesn't 273 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: involve reading in the moment, but I think there's probably 274 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: some over eating and over indulgence that preceded this event. 275 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Because um William the Conqueror was is known for his 276 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: his portly stature. We've got a couple of accounts as 277 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: to what happened during this battle that led to his death. 278 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: The first one goes like this, William suffered something along 279 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: the lines of a stroke while fighting in the battle. 280 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: That's sort of the like less ridiculous version. You know, 281 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: we're not gonna lean on that one. Let's go with 282 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the most ridiculous version. The second story says that he 283 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: was impaled by a wooden pommel, which I think is 284 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: like the handle of a sword or a handle of 285 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: of of of a spear of some kind, but I 286 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: believe in this case it is the wooden pommel of 287 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: his saddle. Which they can go from being like, you know, 288 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of small, as in like you know, writing situations 289 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: that we might know today, that little nub that you 290 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: kind of grab onto joystick correctly correct two more ornate 291 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: and perhaps uh large and protruding. So the story goes 292 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: that he took a tumble of some kind and was 293 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: impaled in the guts on this this wooden pommel, and 294 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: this ruptured his intestines. That ain't kill him and kill 295 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: him right away? No, no, Unfortunately was a slow death, 296 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: quite painful. We imagine he passed away as a result 297 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: of these wounds. Whichever story you believe. On September nine, however, 298 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: fellow ridiculous historians, you may be saying, I don't know, 299 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: why should this guy make the list. That just sounds tragic. 300 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound ridiculous. We're here to talk about what 301 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: happened after you see. It is his funeral that makes 302 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: his death so ridiculous. This comes to us from a 303 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: benedicting monk named Order Rick Vitalis. His name does sound 304 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: like a Harry Potter spell, We get it. Yeah, And 305 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: uh so he is in state. He's going to be buried. 306 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Many people come to see the body of the king. 307 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: But his corpse has bloated, and his corpse has been 308 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: put in a sarcophagus that's too small. His body exploded 309 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: during the funeral. His bowels burst. It was the worst 310 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: part ever. Mr Creosote style. That's wow, Ben, you really 311 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: you put some stank on that one. Literally, Yeah, that's 312 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: why I brought up Mr Creosote again because our our 313 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: previous king did not in fact explode. Um this king, 314 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, by this account and the account of this 315 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: particular Benedictine monk, did in fact explode, leading to an 316 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: absolutely foul smell. I'm going to quote from the Benedictine 317 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: monks account that the swollen bowels burst and an intolerable 318 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: stench assailed the nostrils of the bystanders and the whole crowd, 319 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: causing the mourners to flee, to flee the stench. And 320 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and obviously, I mean, I don't know it was the 321 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: lid closed the time, was he laying there in state 322 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: to be viewed, That's what I'm picturing. And then it 323 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: just like, you know, it just went boom. I'm pretty 324 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: sure they were forcing the body and they were like 325 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: pushing it and yeah yeah, so they still, the priest 326 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: are trying to maintain some vestige of decorum, and so 327 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: they continue on, or they try to while this miasthma 328 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: is hitting them. And uh, you know, this is the 329 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: time where I regretfully have to mention the scientific fact 330 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: that smell and taste to relate it. So whenever you're 331 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: smelling something, you're tasting a little bit of it. Uh 332 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: and they I think I mentioned once that I saw 333 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: like a meme, you remember, I don't remember exactly where 334 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: it happened, but there's this meme format where it's like 335 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: skeletor telling you something unpleasant and then and I and 336 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: and I know, and then he runs away and and 337 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: this one was like, if you're smelling of fart, you're 338 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: also probably you've already tasted it a little bit. Yeah yeah. So, 339 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: uh so these priests, you know, they're they're doing their 340 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: best to do their duty, and nothing can match the stench, 341 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: which is why William the Conqueror conquered one last thing 342 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: his funeral. Yeah. Man, he was basically like a human 343 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: bomb you know, that went off and then and caused 344 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: everyone to run for I mean, this really is like 345 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: a Mr. Creasote. Since I'm sorry keep bringing that up, 346 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, in in that episode or that 347 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: sketch and Meaning of Life, everyone runs and ducks for cover, 348 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: and that is kind of what's happening here. I'm picturing 349 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: you know this or flying willy nilly, you know, in 350 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: all directions, it probably wasn't as cartoony as as we 351 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: might be picturing it. But it's fun to do. It's funny. Yeah. 352 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: This let's stay with this family because unfortunately, there is 353 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: a a descendant of William the Conqueror who also makes 354 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: our list today. His name King Henry the First. Uh. 355 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: He knew about how his father passed, and uh, he 356 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: had no idea that he would meet an equally ridiculous death. Uh. 357 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: If you have any squeamishness about seafood, this this might 358 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: not be the one for you. Yeah, for sure, I 359 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: know definitely a lot of people do. Don't like the text, Sure, 360 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the smell. Um just doesn't do it 361 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: for him. And again, huge credit where credit is most 362 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: certainly due to Kalina Fraga for this article on All 363 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: that is Interesting dot com. Um that that that outlines 364 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these tragic, gory and ridiculous royal deaths. 365 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: This one comes from that list as well. We're talking 366 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: about King Henry the First, who was the youngest son 367 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: of William the Conqueror. Um, who was painfully aware of 368 00:23:53,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: the undignified circumstances of his pop's funeral. Yeah he Uh. 369 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: The race for the throne begins right as the patriarch 370 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: passes away, Henry is doing some political maneuvering another one 371 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: of his brothers who could have been air dies and 372 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: so Henry takes the throne in eleven hundred CE. He 373 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: wants to revamp the royal justice system. He wants to 374 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: build a nice abbey, and he wants to ball out. 375 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: He wants to live the high life. You know, his 376 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: idea of luxury lamb praise. He eats lamb praise. Look 377 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: up a picture, folks. But this is why we warned 378 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: you about the squeamishness of seafood. There's the thing, though, 379 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: he loves lamb praise, but he's allergic to him. Every 380 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: time he eats them, he gets sick. It reminds me 381 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: of a of a good friend of mine who once 382 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: upon a time told me that he is both allergic 383 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: to cheese and beef. And once a year he dopes 384 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: himself up and he eats a cheeseburger. And I've been 385 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: with him when he ate a cheeseburger, and it was 386 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: uncomfortable how much he enjoyed it. That discomfort paled in 387 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: comparison to the consequences. Sometimes we want what we know 388 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have, and this is the case with Henry 389 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: and the Lamprey, Henry and the Lamprey. It sounds like 390 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: a parable or like a band of the Pacific Northwest. 391 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: You know, dude, that's nailed. Uh. Lamprey is. By the way, 392 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure most people aware this are a type of 393 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, wriggly, slimy eel, and I think they were 394 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: often consumed live. I think it was certainly a medieval delicacy. 395 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: And it's become something of like an old English kind 396 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: of cliche, like if you've ever seen The Mighty Bush, 397 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: there's a character played by Noel Fielding who's like this 398 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: kind of Cockney you know, demon green face, kind of 399 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: witchy warlock kind of fellow, and he's all about eels. 400 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: He has a whole song about eels and is conjuring 401 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: these eels and you know, eating them alive and all 402 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: that stuff and feeling them wriggle around and his guts 403 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it has become something of a you know, 404 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of a medieval hallmark, you know, of of a 405 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: disgusting delicacy, right, yeah, And we want to thank the 406 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: medieval historian Mark Morris. The doctors of the day had 407 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: warned Henry the first several times. They had said hey, bud, 408 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: these lamb praise man, They're not good for you. I 409 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: know they taste great, but they're not great for you. 410 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: Be gone with ye men of science. I am a 411 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: man of luxury, and I I know my body, and 412 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: I will I will consume these lamp preis. Come hello, Hi, water, 413 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: I am your king. Fetch me the eel, Fetch me 414 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: the lamprey pi. Uh. Yeah. So we know that he 415 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: went hunting in Normandy in eleven. He's done hunting right, 416 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: and he's had a long day, so he wants to 417 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: kick up his feet and have a nash on his 418 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: favorite snack, and uh, it doesn't work out. We've got 419 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: a great description from a chronicler around that time, Henry 420 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: of Huntington's Yeah yeah, yeah. This guy was older too, 421 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: he was he was up there in age um. And 422 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: this is described thus lee by Henry of huntingdon Um quote. 423 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: This meal brought on a most destructive humor and violently 424 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: stimulated similar symptoms, producing a deadly chill in his aged 425 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: body and a sudden and extreme convulsion against this. Nature 426 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: reacted as it does by stirring up an acute fever 427 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: to dissolve the inflammation with very heavy sweating. Yeah, and 428 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: he passes away and doesn't make it through the this 429 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: reaction this time. It's just it's too much for him, 430 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: and doctors assigned a cause of death which remains ridiculous today. Indeed, 431 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: um and r I P. That's a king, Henry r 432 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: I P to all of these folks that we're talking 433 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: about today. Um. You know, we're obviously the approaching this 434 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: with a tongue firmly planted in cheek. But as you 435 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: mentioned at the top of episode one, all deaths are 436 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: a sad thing, so we're not meaning to diminish the 437 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: lives of these individuals by h dunking on their absurd 438 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: deaths just a little bit. Yeah, yeah, a surfeit of 439 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: lamb praise the official cause of death for what is 440 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: a surfeits? We should all learn a new word together today. Yes, 441 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: a surfeit is uh too much, an excessive amount, which 442 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: is weird because for some reason it sounds like it 443 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: would be a dearth right lack a lack of But 444 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: a surf eight is too much. It's just too much. 445 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: It's the same cause of death as our buddy A 446 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Adolph Frederick right, he had a surfeit of everything, all 447 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: the things, and you know, and that that was just 448 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: pushed right over the cliff by those delightful little creamy 449 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: doughnut things hot milk. That's the detail that really bugs me. 450 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you would have made it if it 451 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: weren't it was maybe the Raisins that didn't. Guys, that's 452 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: my theory, sort of like the wel are thin uh 453 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: little disc you know in in the Mr Mr Creuso. 454 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Those raisins, man, they're bad news. Yeah, And uh, here's 455 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: something that I think is instructive. This is a good 456 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: one for us to end on. Here. Let's imagine ourselves 457 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: going east of Europe, or you can take the long 458 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: way around and just go completely west, you know. Uh, 459 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: and scenic crowd, scenic crowd. There we go, and you 460 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: end up in the amazing Middle Kingdom, a great seed 461 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: of civilization, ancient China. If you are anywhere in the 462 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: world an emperor or a king ruler of some sort, 463 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: then eventually you run into the one thing you cannot buy, 464 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: steel or conquer, and that is time. Right, So your 465 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: biggest flex ever is to become immortal. And our last 466 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: story is about a guy named qing Chi Huangdi again, 467 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: we're not native speakers who died in to ten b c. 468 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: Because he wanted to live forever. He had not heard 469 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the warnings from Freddie Mercury. Is that that was Queen? Right, 470 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: who wants to live forever? I think so, Yeah, I'm 471 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: not as familiar with that. It wasn't that for my 472 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: movie ors I now, I don't think so. I never mind. 473 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I did get my kid for an early Christmas present 474 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Queen's Greatest Hits on vinyl Target edition. Oh good and 475 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: limited colored vinyls. Thanks Target. Um. But yeah, man, love 476 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: love the music of Queen. But indeed we're talking about 477 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: can she hanged uh to ten BC E of the 478 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Chenn dynasty, and he was the first emperor to rule 479 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: over a unified China because as we know, China, you know, 480 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: prior to to this unification was sort of a collection 481 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: of you know, into sort of independent kingdoms. I guess 482 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: how would you describe been this? I know this is 483 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: really your wheelhouse? Oh yeah. So China is such an 484 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: ancient place that as you get far enough back into 485 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the historical record, you see it becomes almost mythic. Right, 486 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: So this guy has a mythological status because he brought 487 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: all these other kind of think of almost like nation 488 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: states brought them together the same way. Our boy unified 489 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: norway right, but way way before that center, three centuries 490 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: before that, and everybody was trying to kill him. Basically, 491 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: that's part of this. Yeah, yeah, exactly not a popular thing, 492 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, when people are used to again for generations, 493 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, be independent, this idea one person's unifier as 494 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: another person's conqueror, and that is definitely how this was 495 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: seen by the vast majority of of of these an 496 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: independent you know kingdoms. Yeah, everybody likes the idea of 497 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: an absolute monarchy so long as they're the monarch, right, 498 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the catch. You know. It's 499 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: like flying cars. Flying cars are a terrible idea unless 500 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: you're the only one with a flying car, that it's great, 501 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So this guy had a bit of a 502 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: death fetish, yeah, because he had so many close calls. 503 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: You can't trust anyone, right if you're the emperor, and 504 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: he became convinced that death was just around the corner, 505 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: so he upped his security at an unprecedented level and 506 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: he tried everything to avoid dying. Okay, so maybe let's 507 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: of a fetish and more of an aversion, a very 508 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: obsessive preoccupation to avoiding death. Um. And you know this 509 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: can lead to a life not particularly well lived. You 510 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean exactly? Yeah? He uh, he has 511 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: private roads. His security is super tight. No one can 512 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: know his location. If you share his location without permission, 513 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: you are put to death. He also starts saying, well, 514 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: what if I get in front of this problem. I 515 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: can't just keep building a fortress every time I want 516 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: to go somewhere. Uh, what if I could find some 517 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of medicine, some sort of postional licksa that would 518 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: push me past the bounds of mortality? And he thought 519 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: he found one. Yeah, this is the tail as old 520 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: as time, isn't it? The search for immortality? You know, 521 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: it's something we hear about now on our other show, 522 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: talk about a lot on stuff they don't want you 523 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: to know. The idea of life extension technology for the 524 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: super super rich. You know, we hear about royals and 525 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: and uh and and wealthy types bathing in the blood 526 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: of you know, children or whatever virgins, whatever it might be, 527 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: in order to extend their life or or make them 528 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: appear more youthful. Etcetera, youth and and more. And immortality 529 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: has been an obsession as long as people have been 530 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: alive and had access to kind of you know, self 531 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: awareness and uh resources. Yeah, and this, this story is 532 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: really interesting. Uh. This guy, this emperor, Uh, he falls 533 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: prey to a lot of snake oil. He buys finances 534 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: a ton of elixirs that are absolute con jobs. They 535 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: don't work, and the people selling them know they don't work. Uh, 536 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: and they just have to try to skip down and 537 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: stay alive. So he even sends uh, he sends hundreds 538 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: of people to a place called Chiful Islands to search 539 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: for a thousand year old magician who might be able 540 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: to help him out. Uh. And he even burns a 541 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: bunch of books in China, every like, almost everything except 542 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: for alchemical works. And some historians have said that he 543 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: was burning all the other sources of knowledge because he 544 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: wanted the best and brightest focused on giving making his 545 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: life potion a thing. Ben, do you think that there 546 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: were folks that cracked this code throughout history, this idea 547 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: of a thousand year old wizard or whatever. We hear 548 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: about people like Methuselah and you know, you know, throughout 549 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: Biblical tales and all of us. Do you think this 550 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: is there is anybody that figured out how to cheat death? 551 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Or does is all just become kind of an example 552 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: of uh talking a good game and and um and 553 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: being able to kind of spin a yarn and convince 554 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: people that you know what this stuff is all about. 555 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to be true. You know, I'm fox bolder 556 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: over here. I want to believe. Look, if you were 557 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: thousands of years old. First off, thank you for tuning 558 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: into our show and being so generous with your time. Uh. Secondly, 559 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: reach out and touch space. You know you don't have 560 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: to tell us your secrets, but we would love to 561 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: interview you. Uh. You know, even if you think you're 562 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: a thousand plus years old, even if you can't prove it, 563 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: let us know. It feels like you'd be a heck 564 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: of a conversation, right. I love the idea. What do 565 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: you think? No, I'm a little skeptical, but I want 566 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: to believe. I'm with you there. I would say I 567 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: fall pretty squarely on the probably not side, as I 568 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: think you do too. But you know, we're also fans 569 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: of of of fantasy and science fiction and all of 570 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: that stuff, So there is a kind of belief gene 571 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: in in us that that that causes us to be like, 572 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: well maybe, but probably not. Well, you know, it's you 573 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: never asked a magician their age, you know, in polite society, right. 574 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I think that's from an etiquette book somewhere, right, lest 575 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: they turn you into a tune. Yes, yes, So look, 576 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: this guy was alive so long ago, and he was 577 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: so secretive at times that, uh, his exact cause of 578 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: death is unknown, but the generally agreed upon explanation is 579 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: quite ridiculous. So he's searching for all these potions, right, 580 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: searching for these thousand year old magicians helped me live forever, 581 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: the one thing I could not conquer. Time. Along the way, 582 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: amid all this advice he's getting, someone tells him, Hey, 583 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: you know it's cool mercury. Yeah, I bet, I bet 584 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: if you drink mercury, you know you'll you'll be great. 585 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Let me look at it. It's clearly a mystical element, 586 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: and the way it rolls around needs up, and it 587 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: looks like it's made of magic. Just guzzle that stuff, man, 588 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: give it a gus down the old down the old throat. Shoot, yes, yes, 589 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: which is the medical term. So he either took pill 590 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: containing mercury, or he may have drank wine that was 591 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: laced with honey and mercury and thought, well, we've cracked it. 592 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna live forever. I'm way less stressed now. But 593 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason you're not supposed to break 594 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: open those old school thermometers. There's a reason that you 595 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: don't see mercury sold uh in the in the toy 596 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: aisles with ghack. There't remember ghack? What about floam? Oh yeah, 597 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: I forgot. That was sort of the successor to gags. 598 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: I always like ghack because it came in those containers 599 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: that sort of held a shape, you know, of like 600 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: a splat, and then you just pull it out and 601 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: it would have inevitably get filthy and disgusting, but it 602 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: looks so cool on the shelf. And then floam was 603 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of the like beated little little uh like styrofoam, 604 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, held together with kind of glue. And now 605 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: the kids are making slime. You can make your own. God, 606 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: what a what a new lease on life for the 607 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: Elmer's company. The essentially repackaged their glue um as like 608 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: slime make in kids. Whoever came up with that idea 609 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: and that pitch meeting. I hope they got a bonus, 610 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, or they may have just wanted a 611 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: bonus in uh glue by products, right, they said, just 612 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: pay me and ghak. And another another example of mercury 613 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: bad um is that you know, we we've said this before, 614 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: of course, but the expression matt as a hatter because 615 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: mercury used to be used to treat the felt in 616 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: hats by hat makers and they were handling it a lot, 617 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: and it would you know, not it wasn't enough to 618 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: kill them or poison them, because they were just handling 619 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: little bits of it enough that over time it would 620 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: cause them to have some mental decline. Yeah, mercuryus nitrate 621 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: used to cure felt um. Yeah, it's it's It's strange 622 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: because only decades after do people begin to put together 623 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: the long term consequences of some of the things they've 624 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: been messing with, Like think about think about that fascinating 625 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: theory regarding lad in the environment and later spikes and 626 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: crime intergenerationally. Look, the Emperor doesn't know about all this 627 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: at all. He just he wants to live forever. He 628 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: thinks mercury is cool. He's down in this stuff. He's 629 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: popping these pills. He's living the high life for a second, 630 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: because he died because you can't drink mercury. Yeah, yeah, 631 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a bad idea. He died relatively quickly, 632 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean he really was just for about a minute. 633 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: And once again, you know, um, this absurd death led 634 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: to an unraveling of a lot of the progress that 635 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: had been made because again he was the first ruler 636 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: of unified China, and we know there was a lot 637 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of pushback against this. So while this 638 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: was ultimately potentially a good thing that would cause some 639 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, standardization and and could lead to some positive 640 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: change for some of the inhabitants of this part of 641 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: the world, all of this stuff kind of, you know, 642 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: with the stroke of a of a thermometer, came undone 643 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: and caused China to quickly fall into bloody civil war. Yes, yep, 644 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: again consequences to quote that uh Ken Peel sketch, which 645 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: congratulations to the three people who remember that. But this 646 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: has been such a wild ride. Here we are at 647 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: the end of the year, and as we said, uh 648 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: Max Snolan, yours truly we're gonna we're gonna take a 649 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: little time for some R and R for some weird, 650 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: ridiculous research. We hope you get some stands for there 651 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: it is, yes, just so we hope you get some 652 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: time uh to relax with your loved ones. Enjoy uh 653 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: the last of two and we'll see you very soon 654 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: in twenty three. Uh wow, another year, another year. Indeed, Hey, 655 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: you know the stuff in this episode, I think it's 656 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: pretty uncontroversial, fun dinner table fodder. Maybe not the exploding 657 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: fart guts one, but we have kind of the cliche of, 658 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, the holidays being a time of great division 659 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to folks from different you know, generations 660 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: coming together maybe don't see each other all the time, 661 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: and all of the divisive conversation topics that can come 662 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: up over the old you know, honey honey baked ham 663 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: or the lamp right be exactly the lamp right pie, 664 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: which is definitely a thing that's still popular in the States. 665 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: But you know, all of these things and a lot 666 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: of the stuff we talked about on the show. I 667 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: think for the most part, we try to stay pretty 668 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: politically neutral. Army yourself with this and and be be 669 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: the change you want to see at the dinner table. Yeah, yeah, 670 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: and you it's also uh, if you're looking for some reading, 671 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: why not pick up the stuff they Don't want you 672 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: to know? Book on which Noel and our writer die 673 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: Mr Matt Frederick and I worked on with some excellent art. 674 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: It's a coffee table gift. And uh with that, big, 675 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: big thanks to the one and only Mr Max Williams. 676 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: First of his name, we can say, right, you're the 677 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: only Max Williams for us. Bro Oh, I am the 678 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: first and the only Maximus William Williamson. Yes, that's what 679 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: I call it. When he's not around, hey, hey, hey, 680 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: when he's When he's around, I'm alious of thenuls of 681 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: people I believe maybe something along those lines, but no, 682 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: huge thanks to you, Max, Huge thanks to your brother 683 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: and brother in arms of the show. Um, Alex Williams 684 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: who composed this theme. Um, all of our pals in 685 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: the Ridiculous Universe. We've got Zarin and Elizabeth of the 686 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime Podcast. Check those folks out. Yeah, also tune 687 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: into Ridiculous Romance Are Pure podcast with our pals Diana 688 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: and Eli. Who else. We've also got Bill and Mark 689 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: overt Ridiculous News. Uh. Plenty of delightful bits um every 690 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: week from those is for you to check out as well. 691 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: So we really do have ourselves a bit of an 692 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: m c U kind of situation. We call it the 693 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: the r c U. It's a cinematic RPU, the Ridiculous 694 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: Podcast Universe. There we go, There we go, cut print, 695 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: love it. Happy holidays, folks, will see you on the 696 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: next calendar. Yeah, we'll see a nice time, folks. For 697 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the i heart 698 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 699 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: favorite shows.