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Speaker 2: What is up? Met stuff?

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Speaker 1: Listeners back here for episode number fifty of the met

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Speaker 1: Stuff podcast. Of course, I'm your co host draftdeck Mark

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Speaker 1: Mark Luino here with James Ciano had no range talking

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Speaker 1: about the miserable, awful, terrible Saint Louis Cardinals series that

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Speaker 1: said this a couple times now, but this is probably

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Speaker 1: signaling the end. This is the beginning of the end.

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Speaker 1: I think that's officially ninety nine point nine nine nine

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Speaker 1: we go on this podcast. We're a roller coaster of emotions.

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Speaker 1: now they are playing just not very great. Sweep by

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Speaker 1: go through all the games in depth as we always do,

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Speaker 1: It's a damn shame that we're basically, you know, waving

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Speaker 1: the white flag here and having our funeral today as well,

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Speaker 1: but it is quite the accomplishment. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: Here on episode number fifty of the met Stop podcast.

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Speaker 2: James.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling the funeral? I mean, we talked about

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Speaker 1: Fucking Adam Wayne, right man. I know you've been telling

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Speaker 1: I completely believe that. I mean, I'm pretty sure you

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Speaker 2: The game, absolutely no doubt.

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Speaker 3: And that was the case this game, because the only

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Speaker 3: after the game he actually said that kind of he did,

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Speaker 3: and he's a rat fuck for that stupid, troll fucking quote.

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Speaker 3: Stab me with the knife twisted. It's been fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: So but and Forrest swinging the bat well, which is

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's great that he got hot, so good for him,

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Speaker 3: And then when Alex Rady's just clicked and he struck out, Pete,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rojas has been doing some really really questionable stuff

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Speaker 1: The only way that I guess I would feel comfortable

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Speaker 3: He left because they got he got cancer and he's okay,

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Speaker 2: A best asset. As best as I could possibly.

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Speaker 1: Say it, that shit's like still like it doesn't even

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Speaker 3: And a couple of ages have done I mean, I

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Speaker 3: Yep, And this start brought him back into a tie

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Speaker 3: had eight whiffs on seventeen swings of it, which is

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00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560
Speaker 3: just an ignorant number, almost fifty percent, And along with

437
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Speaker 3: that he got ten call strikes with the pitch good

438
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,680
Speaker 3: for a forty nine percent CSW rate. So literally half

439
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,800
Speaker 3: of the sliders that Marcus Stroman threw, more than forty

440
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,960
Speaker 3: percent of his total pitches, resulted in a strike in

441
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Speaker 3: the catcher's mit. Not a foul ball is striking the

442
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 3: catcher's mid impressive as stuff. And there was even only

443
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,240
Speaker 3: one hard hit ball off that slider, and it was

444
00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,399
Speaker 3: just heited the dinky ninety six miles an hour a

445
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,400
Speaker 3: week fly ball from Nolan ar not non inch comparitive

446
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,320
Speaker 3: flat ball whatsoever.

447
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 2: The pitch chart was gorgeous.

448
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,679
Speaker 3: He was just throwing that low and away the right

449
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,040
Speaker 3: handed hitters, lowing away the right handed hitters, finding strikes

450
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,840
Speaker 3: we needed too, then dunning it back outside. Ends up

451
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,520
Speaker 3: with six innings, eight strikeouts to earn just that one

452
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 3: stupid rally.

453
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,640
Speaker 2: And I think that was the fourth.

454
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 1: Inning and he made that play on the ball that

455
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: was hit too him and he rushed the throw yeah

456
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 1: away and that was a rough one as well.

457
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,159
Speaker 3: But eight strikeouts, three hard hit balls all game. The

458
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,920
Speaker 3: guy has grown so much the season. He's a borderline

459
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,040
Speaker 3: ace right now. It's been by far the best storyline

460
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Speaker 3: of the met season. How far Marcus Stroman has come

461
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Speaker 3: after a year off.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people wanted to talk about, you know,

463
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 1: whether Stroman should be here in the first place, because

464
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people weren't happy about him taking off

465
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season, to which like, who are you

466
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 1: to say who should play during COVID or not? And

467
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably doubted what he was gonna

468
00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: be able to come back and do this year after

469
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Speaker 1: taking again a full season off.

470
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Speaker 2: And being on the wrong side of the thirty.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and being on the wrong side of thirty. But

472
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Speaker 1: Stroman's come out pretty much every single start and been

473
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Speaker 1: healthy and been good, consistent, one of the most consistent

474
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 1: pitchers in all of baseball. I mean, Bueller and Golzman

475
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 1: are cy Young candidates. I think Stroman is probably in

476
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 1: that same range as Wayne right right now of the

477
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,479
Speaker 1: cy Young talks, they're on the outskirts, but they'll get

478
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: a couple of votes here and there, I think because

479
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 1: they have both been very solid this year. He has

480
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: been so huge this team's relative success. Imagine if we

481
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: didn't have Marcus Stroman this year, where this team would be,

482
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we would be dangerously bad.

483
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: That's would be probably like in the fifth, sixth seventh

484
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,119
Speaker 2: pick in the draft range, like they'd be competing with

485
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 2: the Marlins right now.

486
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like more so than ever, We've been

487
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 1: saying this pretty much since like the first two or

488
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: three starts of the year. Yeah, gotta re sign Stroman.

489
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 1: The consistency gives you, the fact that he goes out

490
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: there every five days, the fact that he goes six

491
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: seven innings pretty consistently as well. You've got to keep

492
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 1: this guy in rotation because when you do have this

493
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: these injuries and this turmoil and all this stuff come up,

494
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: he's the one guy that you can look to and go,

495
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be pretty consistent and this stuff shouldn't fall

496
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 1: off because he doesn't rely on velocity.

497
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 3: It's crazy where his season long statistics would be if

498
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 3: he didn't have that hip issue for the one month

499
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: in June, Like is he raising the twos anyway? Like

500
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 3: it would be like two three, two four, Like he

501
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 3: would be in the side on conversations, he.

502
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 2: Would be shy.

503
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: His whip could be below one if he didn't have

504
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: those few bad starts in succession, and especially now that

505
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 3: he's become so comfortable with off speed pitches that he's

506
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 3: striking guys out at a rate that's better than League gaveraging.

507
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: I didn't think we'd ever see this Marcus Stroman end.

508
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 3: I'm truly excited for his future, and I hope he

509
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 3: hasn't pitched himself off the Mets because of the success.

510
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 1: I think the Mets are gonna be super aggressive with him.

511
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: I think Cohen has talked about this as well, that

512
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 1: he wants, you know, guys that are gonna help you win,

513
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: but he also wanted guys that are gonna be marketable.

514
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: He wants guys that are going to be stars essentially,

515
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: and Stroman, while maybe isn't a super star by any means,

516
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: he's got the personality of a superstar for sure, and

517
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: that's a guy you want on.

518
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 2: Your team, no doubt.

519
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: And the shame is that this was all for nought

520
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: because we just couldn't get to Jake Woodford the way

521
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: it felt like we were going to.

522
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: In the first sitting of this game.

523
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, first hitting what three singles back to back, all

524
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: in a row, we scored a run real quick, and

525
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: then we got another run, get two in for the

526
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: first inning.

527
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was looking great.

528
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: We're like, there we go. We're hitting Jake Woodford. This guy,

529
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: he's so unimpressive as well. He just doesn't have anything

530
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: very good.

531
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Speaker 3: Dude, he had three wis the whole game. Yeah, like

532
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: what the fuck? And this ending would have been way bigger,

533
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: but Pete grounded into like a pretty brutal double play

534
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: and that was the beginning of a game where he

535
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: didn't really uh hit well. When the time that he

536
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 3: did get he did get a nice hit extra endings

537
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: that kept like a baby rally going. But yeah, double

538
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: play in the first. He had double play again later

539
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: in the game. I remember he had a big strikeout

540
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: in the fifth with two one and two out. They

541
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 3: snapped the bat on yeah, which he likes to do

542
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: that sometimes, and that was I think signaling oh for

543
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: nineteen stretch for him at that point when he stapped

544
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: that bat.

545
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was struggling big time. Also weird interesting fat

546
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: Jake Woodford is his high school teammate. They went to

547
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: high school together and played with each other, and he

548
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: also had Harrison Bader, who was a Florida teammate out

549
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: in center field.

550
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

551
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: But Pete's been struggling. We've known this from him. He

552
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: goes through these insane streaks where he is so frigging

553
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: ice cold but then so insanely hot. We gotta find

554
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: that consistency a little bit. All that being said, Pete

555
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,239
Speaker 1: has had a great year. He's been one of the

556
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: most on the team. So it just stinks that it's

557
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: coming right now and that he like in this game particularly.

558
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not trying to pick on Pete. Pete's been

559
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: the best players in the team all yeah. I'm saying

560
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: like in this game specifically, he had three at bats

561
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 3: with men on and.

562
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: He did probably the worst scene could have done all

563
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: three times.

564
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely crush.

565
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah to just literally destroyed all the rallies that happened

566
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: this game and allows us not to get as many

567
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: runs as we could have had.

568
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: Jake Woodford the hobby bunt was kind of funny.

569
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Speaker 1: That was fun, Yeah, But Jake Woodford has no idea

570
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: how to field a bund. It's just like fell Over,

571
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: like the one guy who can't field. I'm Saint Louis

572
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: Carter's Jake Woodford.

573
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe this guy's in the rotation.

574
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: I feel like the big thing to talk about though,

575
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: is that we got what one hit or two hits

576
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: after the first inning until basically the ninth when we

577
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: had that little rally. The Pats went so insanely quiet

578
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: against nothing nothing.

579
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Speaker 3: Jake Woodford did not strike out one Met I said

580
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: before Jake Widford only got three whiffs. The Mets themselves

581
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: only try out four times this entire game.

582
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: Now, how hard that is to do for the Mets?

583
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: Are you know how hard does do for anybody in

584
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball? The way strikeout rates of balloons against

585
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: all these nonsense pitches.

586
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: It's no hard. They should put that many balls in

587
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: play and not score more runs. Ridiculous.

588
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Polar seems like he's cooling off. Neidles just swings

589
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: a pool noodle. He is so back to being the

590
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: old Tomaso, the Nedo King, that magic whatever was happening

591
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: for that one month with special Baby, it seems like

592
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: so long ago.

593
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: Right now.

594
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: It feels like forever ago. Nothing was going right, And

595
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: we also kind of had some weird let's talk about

596
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: Luis Rojas now pitching decisions. Stroman was cruising. Stroman pitching well,

597
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: I know he had that weird roughending with the error

598
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: and took a little bit longer than we would have hoped,

599
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: but he was cruising. He was dominant for the most

600
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Speaker 1: part in this game. Gets pulled in after the sixth

601
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: and Aaron Loop comes into the seventh to face the

602
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: bottom of the order, which felt a little strange, a

603
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: little peculiar. I know Loop has looked more human recently,

604
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: but it felt weird. And the reason it felt weird

605
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: was because what we saw in the eighth inning with

606
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: the lead the Mets throughout Jerry's Familia. And I know

607
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: I like Jerry's amilia because I say his sinker is

608
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: one of the nastiest pitches in baseball, which when it's working,

609
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: it is, but he has not had it recently, and

610
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand how he's even pitching in

611
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: the eighth I don't know why. I don't know how

612
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: what happened to the depth of this bullpen. May has

613
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: been struggling, but he's still better than Familia. Lugo was

614
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: apparently unavailable. I don't know what's going on there with him.

615
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: So frustrating to see that familiar got the eighth inning.

616
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: This isn't twenty fifteen.

617
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, May was definitely super available because he came

618
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: in to clean up Jerry's Familia's mess because Tyler O'Neil

619
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: hit a fucking moonshot, And I think we gotta give

620
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: credit words too, because Tyler O'Neil's taking a massive step

621
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: forward this year. I remember during Monday Night's telecast, Keith

622
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: was just going wild over his biceps. They were zooming

623
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: in on them, circling them on the screen.

624
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Speaker 2: It was pretty funny.

625
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: He's massive ze. He is a really intriguing player because

626
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: he hits the ball insanely hard, runs insanely fast, and

627
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: has a cannon of an arm with a great club.

628
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: He's a five tool player. You don't find those too often,

629
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: and he is really coming into his own this season.

630
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: This has been his breakout year for sure.

631
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: He could be an outside linebacker in the NFL. He

632
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: like is that built, like it's fucking amazing to see

633
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 3: him run. But again, he is still only twenty six

634
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: years old.

635
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 2: Like rookies coming.

636
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 3: He's the same age as Bobby Dolbeck, which is insane

637
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: because of how long Tyler O'Neil's been in the league.

638
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: But you just don't see like stackcast pages like Tyler O'Neal.

639
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: He's in the ninety fifth percentile on average ex velosity,

640
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: the ninety eight percent island sprint speed, ninety six percent

641
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 3: high on barrow rate, ninety six percent tole on hard

642
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: hit rate, and then of course the third percent K rate.

643
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: But that's gonna happen. You play with fire, are gonna

644
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: get burned.

645
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 3: But you start this inding with Yari's Familia and then

646
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: bringing May to clean up the mess, it just seems

647
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: completely asked backwards.

648
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: It should be the other way. If May's gonna come

649
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: in and stink, Familia is cleaning it up. At that point,

650
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to use what's been one of

651
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: our best relievers in the cleanup rowl after Familia. I

652
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: know Stroman good teammate or whatever, and he was like,

653
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: you know, that's what our team did. That was our

654
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: whole plan. Stroman even mentioned about being pulled early that

655
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: he thinks that it's because he hadn't pitched all last

656
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: year and they want to make sure about his arm.

657
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: And even more so after the game, Luis Rojas talking

658
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: about the decision to pull Stroman early and the reason

659
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: not to use Lugo, and they said that they were

660
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: prioritizing arm health over this. All hands on deck everybody's

661
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: ready to pitch every single night thing. I don't know

662
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. I respect caring about players

663
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: health and safety, of course, but shit, man, it's fifteen

664
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: games left in the season. I don't I don't know

665
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: if these extra two winnings are gonna really break anyone's arm.

666
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: I can.

667
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: I couldn't really fathom marchas Stroman leaving the game when

668
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: he did. Also as just bring back to Tyler and Neal,

669
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: he did hit the two hardest balls in this game,

670
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: which was I don't want to say it's cool because

671
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: it was a guy on the other team, but impressed

672
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: when the guy does that in a single game home run,

673
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: a single in the fourth. This also made me think,

674
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: especially after Wednesday Night's game, watching Seth Lugo struggle for

675
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: what seems like a lot recently, some fifth time in

676
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: the last six appearances.

677
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Something might actually be wrong with that guy.

678
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: He had the slow start to the year because of

679
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: surgery that I think was undersold to us. He's been

680
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: pitching with a partially torn UCL for what four years now.

681
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: It seems like the Mets probably know something about Seth

682
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: Lugo that we do not, and we're gonna find out

683
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: probably sometime in December, that Seth Lugo is gonna miss

684
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: the entire next season.

685
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's weird because I was

686
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: I was hot. I was like, how in the world

687
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: is Lugo not in this game? It turned out he

688
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: was unavailable, And even then to that point, I was like,

689
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: he's got to be able to pitch. I don't know

690
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: what's going on. If he can't pitch, you gotta find

691
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: someone who can take it. I don't know.

692
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure they had.

693
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: I'm sure Seth Luga gets very regular MRIs because of

694
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: that partially torn ucl and I'm sure that they said, like,

695
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: you really have to be careful right now, like this

696
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: is just he was used.

697
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: A lot kind of right when he came back.

698
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: He had those couple of weeks in July after the

699
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: All Star Breaker, he was used very, very consistently. It

700
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: seems like something is pretty dramatically wrong with him, especially

701
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: because he's not affective. Seth Lugo has been one of

702
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: the most effective relievers in baseball since he was moved

703
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: to the bullpen. None of this really makes sense, and

704
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: just because it's the Mets, I'm thinking the worst.

705
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like we haven't been seen that curveball

706
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: as much recently, which puts a lot of strain on

707
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: the elbow.

708
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

709
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of research that's been done

710
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: now that shows that high philosophy fastballs actually but more

711
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: strained on the elbow than the curveball.

712
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I wonder if the curveball does something to

713
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the shoulder too.

714
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure the curveball does something just because of the

715
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: way you're snapping it. But that's and that seems like

716
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: very more elbow. But there's more strain on your arm

717
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: through high velocity fastballs, which is why guy like Wayne

718
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: Wright could pitch into oblivion and never.

719
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: Be an issue.

720
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: Marcus Strowman, Yeah, why should Maybe there were more than

721
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: ninety pitches.

722
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: But we're not the manager, No, we're not.

723
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like the decision making this game. Didn't like

724
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: it one bit. We'll get to that a little bit

725
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: more because we do have some more decision making to

726
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: talk about. We will say one, you know positive here,

727
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: thank god for Hovey bias. That guy is just doing

728
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: exactly what we thought he could do, which is kind

729
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: of just take over this offense. He has been unbelievable

730
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: since coming here. We've talked about in the last few episodes.

731
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: He is quietly giving us a cess. But as like

732
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Trade deadline performance, it's just the Mets aren't winning games,

733
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: but the numbers are eerily similar.

734
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: If Jacob de Grahm and Knows Cindegart were healthy, this

735
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: would be assessments like performance. We have the actual rotation

736
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: of guys willing us to victory every night, where three

737
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: runs would actually do it for us because he produced them.

738
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: I can't even believe what this team would be without him.

739
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: We have to resign him, right. It's in a half too,

740
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I think role.

741
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: I think this is something that we should probably discuss

742
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: at length on a future episode, because this is a

743
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: really layered conversation. But I think that people are probably

744
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: leaning that way now, which is insane to think about

745
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: from where we were three weeks ago.

746
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh, super insane. But I think that, you know, the

747
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: combination of McNeil's play, along with how Hovey Bias has played,

748
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's also played well in Lindor

749
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: seemed to have been playing well since getting Hobby next

750
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: to him too. I think people are really liking that mood.

751
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: They're like in that mojo and the dude's been clutched.

752
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: We talk about it. You make a mistake in the

753
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: zone and he is going to make you pay. And

754
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: he did it again in the ninth inning. Huge home

755
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: run extended the game here and who did we have

756
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: come out for the tenth inning? Heath Hembury and Heath

757
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Hembury's like God knocked it out the park.

758
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: He Henby did it? Heath Hembry not it up? And

759
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: wait have you hit that home run?

760
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: Parlaying into a Heath Henbury scoreless tenth inning where he

761
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to say dominated, but he was completely

762
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: in control, got the nice double play.

763
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Like I thought it was all turning around.

764
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: I know, I thought we were rolling the dice and

765
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: we were rolling everything right, and I was like, oh,

766
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: my goodness, is as bad as this game was. We

767
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: figured something out here. This is a Steel game. This

768
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: is the one that we can win and turn the

769
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: series around. And then the tenth inning happened and we

770
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: got a guy on third because the guy started on second.

771
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: We had a guy on first from a VR walk

772
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: and I VR didn't walk. We probably scored this Kevin

773
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Pillar run which is also crazy to talk about here too.

774
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Lindor just unfortunately hit it to the wrong place. He

775
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: hit it too hard. He had a ground ball to

776
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: first base. Paul Golschman was holding VR on.

777
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: He didn't hit this one that hard.

778
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: No, how hard was it.

779
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: I think it was like seventy eight.

780
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Oh, he did not hit that.

781
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: This was the only ball of the whole game. He

782
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: did not hit hard.

783
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess because of the camera and the switching,

784
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: it felt like it was hit harder. But hit it

785
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: to the wrong spot. Literally, Paul Goldschmid, if he wasn't

786
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: holding on Jonathan VR probably doesn't get to this ball

787
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: as quickly as he does and probably doesn't get Kevin

788
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Pullar out for the double play. Unfortunate, Really a gut punch,

789
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: because you know, the Mets just find a new way

790
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: every single night to not win games.

791
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, especially when you know in your head he'd hen't

792
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: re pitch the tenth, what's going to happen in the eleventh?

793
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: And what happened in the eleventh Jake Reid happened in

794
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: the eleventh.

795
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Didn't even know he was on the team.

796
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Me neither.

797
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: I had no clue he got back up on this team,

798
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and Jake reed, I don't even I'm not mad at.

799
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: Him me either.

800
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like the analogy, like you put

801
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: a toddler in the front seat of the car and

802
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: you put the keys in the ignition and you leave.

803
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: You can't be upset when something bad happens there. No,

804
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: you can't, like Jake Reid's not on him, say, this

805
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: game's on the offense. The offense didnt show up when

806
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: we needed it most. Jake Woodford, Jake Woodford.

807
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: We were quiet for eight innings or whatever it was,

808
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and then even then we had the opportunities later on

809
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: to get more runs. We couldn't do it. It's unfortunate.

810
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: And the worst fucking part about this, here's where it

811
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: gets really bad, is they almost brought it back again

812
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: in the fucking eleventh inning. My god, score two runs, scored,

813
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: two friggin' runs. And who comes up to the plate

814
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: with a chance to tie this game give us a lead,

815
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: but none other than my favorite player on the New

816
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: York Mets in the Hall of Fame. Here for my favorites,

817
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Albert almoa fucking junior. My god, I am so sick

818
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: and tired of this guy. I'm sure he's a nice dude,

819
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: but holy shit, he's a fucking horrible baseball player.

820
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: Horrible, horrible, horrible.

821
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: He's been bad forever. How is he on this team?

822
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: There's just no reasons for ALBERTA. Moore to be on

823
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: this baseball team at this point in the season.

824
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: We have so much proof that he's not a good hitter,

825
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: and he's not even a really super dominant fielder anymore,

826
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: especially when we have a guy like Clearly Raking and

827
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: Tripaa dominating, playing good defense, exciting young player leads the

828
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: Eastern League in WRC plus as a twenty two year old, very.

829
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: Young for the league. Still, we've learned a live about

830
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: Clearly over the last few months.

831
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: Has really changed my opinion personally of him as a

832
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: prospect and his potential as a baseball player. There's nothing

833
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: that Ulber Moore does better than Clearly nothing at all.

834
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: His ceilings so high that his floor is where Albert

835
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Almore's ceiling starts. It's just khalils Lee's worst is Albert

836
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Almore's best. Because this guy, for the last three or

837
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: four years has been a subpar baseball player. The Cubs,

838
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: who are looking to pay anybody nothing to just exist

839
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: in the outfield, said we don't want you anymore. You

840
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: run the World Series team, don't care, We don't want

841
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to pay you at one million dollars in the Mets

842
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: at how about four.

843
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: And we also had such a dumb rally to get

844
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: to this point between again, I said it before the

845
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: Jose run down misplay and the Pete fly ball, Kwang

846
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Young Kim just pooped himself onto Kevin Pullar dribbler like

847
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: we had a shot.

848
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: Everything was falling into place here.

849
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: And this has happened a few times to the Mets

850
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: this season where they got to a very critical juncture

851
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: in a game. I specifically remember that Dodgers Friday night

852
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: game they snuck into section eleven four where eventually the

853
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: Mets just will always have a dead spot in this

854
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: lineup that you cannot get around, and the bench is

855
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: already cleared out and the game's about to be over,

856
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: and you just are powerless to the game ending just

857
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: because the bottom of your roster is so weak.

858
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: And that's a huge issue that the Mets have to

859
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: correct going into next season.

860
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Builds into what we said last episode. The Brewers, the Rays,

861
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Dodgers. They use every single roster spot

862
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: for something of value. I don't understand what value, and

863
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Jake Reed here either, but I don't

864
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: understand the value that Albert or Mora, Almore or even

865
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Jake Reid has that makes you go

866
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: they need to be on this major league roster. There's

867
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: nothing that either of those guys do that make you

868
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: go they deserve it over a guy like Khalil Lee or.

869
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Something like that.

870
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: Especially when you look at the Triple A rosters in lineups,

871
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: so those teams you mentioned it compared to the Mets,

872
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: it's literally night and day. The Durham Bulls are competing

873
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: for championships a year in and year out. The Giants

874
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: Triple A lineup has about seven major league caliber hitthers

875
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: in it at all times. Who Talkman's just chilling out

876
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: in there, isn't he?

877
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: Dude?

878
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: Slayer's been down there, Dugger has been down there. Tyro

879
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Straud has been down there. Who just like hits all

880
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: the time. Darren Ruff was down there for a while.

881
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: Mauricio Dubon, who's had multiple years of success in the

882
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: major leagues, just hanging out down there waiting for a shot,

883
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: like these are very talented players. Those teams don't stop

884
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: their roster building when you get the player twenty six.

885
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: They stop the player like three, like they just cycle, cycling, cycle.

886
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: And those teams also I heard this today on the

887
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: Rates and Barrels podcast with Ino Saras and Derek Van Riper.

888
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: They will purposely keep open spots in their forty man

889
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: roster that they can burn through waiver claims and see

890
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: if they can possibly catch lightning in a bottle, things

891
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: that other teams this year have done. Like the Bad Team,

892
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: you see guys like Connor, Joe Frank Swindell, Patrick Wisdom

893
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: get picked up. The Mets haven't really rotated guys like

894
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: this enough this year. We signed alb with that more

895
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: Brandon Drewy and Jose Pirass in the offseason. And while

896
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: two of those three guys have done very good things

897
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: for this team, at times you just kind of wish

898
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: it was more fluid and we were opportunity to get

899
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: more players. Because the good players shake out in the

900
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: waiver wire all the time major League Baseball, all the time.

901
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: We're doing it in our bullpen with Heath Hembury and

902
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: Brad fucking hand. But like, why aren't we just cycling

903
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: cycling cycling cycling, see if we can get talents bond.

904
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: This roster isn't good enough for these guys to have

905
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: guaranteed roles.

906
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the bets forty man roster. I mean,

907
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: here are just some of the names that we like

908
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: to hold on this forty man roster. Some of the

909
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: guys that you go, uh, they're taking up a spot.

910
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: So looking at some pitch Stephen Degosik, it's taking up

911
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: a spot. I mean he was okay, but whatever. Thomas

912
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: a POOKI, I know you need to have some staring

913
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: pitching depth, but there's just no real upside there.

914
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: Cutting SAPUCKI here, he's still like, I still has a

915
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Moley coum of upside. He is a prospect.

916
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: Blanken Horn.

917
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean I'd rather have Blanken Horn up than albertam

918
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Mora and he could least playfield.

919
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this one, Mark Peyton? Who's Mark?

920
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: Who?

921
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: Wait? Hold on, he's five eight point eighty? What does

922
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: he do?

923
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: Who is this man that's agreative player?

924
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Mark Peyton?

925
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: I need?

926
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Has he ever taken a swing at the major league level.

927
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: And if he does, has he gotten a hit? Oh

928
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: my god, Mark Payton is seven for forty. That's better

929
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: than Albert al Moore is doing this year whatever. I mean,

930
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: these are the guys that though that were using. I

931
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: can't believe one that we haven't seen Jose Martinez get

932
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: a spot. I mean, talk about a bench bat. That

933
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: would have been great to have him over at Albert

934
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: al Mora, who gives a shit about defense. This team

935
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: can't score fucking runs. You just can't do anything else.

936
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: And you're not taking Pete Alonzo out of the game

937
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 3: like Jose Martinez on the roster is good, but literally

938
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: from Jose Martins would have burned already by this point.

939
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: The problem with Albadamore is that this was the eleventh

940
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: inning and we used all of our pitch is already.

941
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was it. This is why the last player

942
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: on your team is still very important, especially.

943
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: With this crazy extra ending rule, when you always have

944
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: run in the scoring position and things are always happening.

945
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we hit that dead spot, we hit it hard,

946
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: and we let this one slide and we're down two

947
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: nothing in the series and you're like, oh yeah, like

948
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: you said, I'm not going to that game tomorrow. There's

949
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: no way in hell I'm going to Queens.

950
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: No shit.

951
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: Just one other tip that talked about Terry Collins being

952
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: on the radio. He's still he's like very good and

953
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: he gives good insight because he's a baseball lifer and

954
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: he's a hilarious guy, very personable, but he still does

955
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: some things that make me think he's not really media

956
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: ready yet. He had a quote about Kwang Young Kim

957
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: where Wayne R And dads were talking about his stats

958
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: from the last two years that he's been pretty good

959
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: but had rough patches at times, and they started talking

960
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: about baseball in Asia because Terry Collins, I'm pretty sure

961
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: he managed in either Japan or in.

962
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: Korea for a few years. Correct.

963
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he had a good portion of his

964
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: career in Asia.

965
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he said that Kwang Young Kim is a

966
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: good pitcher and then that that's how Korean Baseball League

967
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: is a really good league.

968
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Even though it's all.

969
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: We knew what he was trying to say, he.

970
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: Meant, but it just came out in a very old

971
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: man way.

972
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: Yes, that's very much like that again, like if you're

973
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: if you were getting like, I feel like offended by that.

974
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: You're really looking too much into it. I don't think

975
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: there was any hate behind it. I don't think there

976
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: is any malice. It was just just like the South Koreans,

977
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: like for South Korean League, it's not that bad.

978
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: It was pretty good. He said, they play pretty good baseball.

979
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: As it's ridiculous crazy. That's that's a wild quote. Uh yeah,

980
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: lead us in the game three Now after that wild quote, yep, bye,

981
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Season's over, this spellulator. I mean, at least the good

982
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: thing here was that the band aid got ripped off.

983
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, within the first fifteen minutes of this game,

984
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: Miguil just got smacked around five runs like it was nothing.

985
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: The Cardinals were not swinging to missing and even when

986
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: they were down oh two to one counts, they were

987
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: just teeing off. I mean, they looked incredibly comfortable at

988
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: the plate. Uh the command wasn't really there, the fastball

989
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: was really there. Nothing was really there for McGill, and honestly,

990
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I turned it off after I saw the five run

991
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: first thing.

992
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: I had enough.

993
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: I was like, this team, I can't They're not coming

994
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: back from this. They're not and I know they scrapped

995
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. They fought a little bit, but that's

996
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: the sign of the end right there. It's over.

997
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't even have him to go breakdown for this.

998
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: He just got beat a lot.

999
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: This game was only two nothing with two outs, and

1000
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: then he just allowed more hits to Dylan Carlson, Harrison

1001
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: Bay that could not get out of it. Didn't really

1002
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: have the the moxie that we've loved so much from

1003
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: him this year. It was just really brutal. This was brutal.

1004
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: Paul Golseman had one hell of a series. My god,

1005
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: is that guy still really good?

1006
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very, very good. Same thing with Nolan Eronado,

1007
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: who's also incredibly good. Just a little personal thing here.

1008
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people, Oh, he can't hit. Outside of course,

1009
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: he's having like one of the best seasons of his

1010
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: career in Saint Louis, which is like a very hard

1011
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: place to hit. Not necessarily ops wise, but a WRC

1012
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: plus I believe is right around where it has been

1013
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: in Colorado before.

1014
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: Just to push back on that, it's not necessarily true.

1015
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: He's still definitely an above average hither, but he's not

1016
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: like the massive power threat he's always been he has.

1017
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Three one homers, thirty two doubles.

1018
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: No, sure, it's pretty good, but he has w RC

1019
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: plus is sitting in the nice one to twenties, one

1020
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: thirties all that time, but Colorado so clean one thirteen

1021
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: this year he's a three and a half one player.

1022
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: That's fine, It's gonna end the year as a four

1023
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: win player. But he was a five to six win

1024
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: player before that. So that's a pretty big difference. But

1025
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 3: you have to expect that going from Chorus to Bush,

1026
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: not because guys can't hit out, of course, but because

1027
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: Bush Stadium is one of the hardest to hit it

1028
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: in all of baseball.

1029
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: It is, truly, and you just got knowing out you're

1030
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: seeing the same pitchers year in the year out, so

1031
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: it takes a little while.

1032
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: Similarly to how I think Paul Golschmid had two kind

1033
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: of pedestrian seasons after coming to Saint Louis and this

1034
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: year has now exploded to looking like the MVP caliber

1035
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: player he was for the majority of his career.

1036
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a really annoying team, the Saint Louis Cardinals,

1037
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: super annoying. Oh they've been a thorn iner side forever

1038
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: and they definitely were again this year, and they're doing

1039
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: it to the entire league. Somehow snuck up into the

1040
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: second wild card spot. They're gonna play the Dodgers in

1041
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: a one game series, and they're gonna beat the Dodgers.

1042
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: We just we just know it's gonna happen.

1043
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: If Adam Wayner it.

1044
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Goes down, beats Max Chers, I'm gonna I don't even

1045
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to rethink everything I know about baseball.

1046
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: Well, get ready to have that thought, because it's going

1047
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, god, man, it stinks to lose

1048
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: the season at any point, really stinks to the Cardinals,

1049
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: who have done it to us so often in our lifetimes.

1050
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: I wanted to go back and find some other times

1051
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: the Cardinals have ripped the Mets hard out and going

1052
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: into this year, the Mets actually have had an above

1053
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: five hundred record against the Cardinals since two thousand and six.

1054
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: Which I was shocked about. Shot.

1055
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: I was literally creating like a whole monologue, narrative I

1056
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: was gonna say about all these times the series the

1057
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: Mets have played against the Cardinals.

1058
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: It's just not true.

1059
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: That's shocking to me, right, especially because of how bad

1060
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: the Mets were for some of those years, and how

1061
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: good the Cardinals were. But I don't want to say

1062
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: we've had their number, but we've basically just treaded water

1063
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: against them, which is fine against an organization like.

1064
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: This, HM interesting, Well not this year. They fucking stomped

1065
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: our faces. And in Flushing and in.

1066
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: Saint Louis too, we gotta crushed them too, and back

1067
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: in fucking May. It was a terrible series series.

1068
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a rough one too.

1069
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: There are two of the worst series of the year.

1070
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: This thorn in our side. Do we even want to

1071
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: talk anything more about this game? You got anything you

1072
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: want to bring up? I mean, I know, I think

1073
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: Pete at a home run.

1074
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Right, yeah? Pee ad a home run like and he

1075
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: almost had another.

1076
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: One in freaking Lars Taylor to Newbar his middle name

1077
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: Taylor Tatsuji. He's all over the place. He's Dutch, he's Japanese.

1078
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: He's got Taylor in there, which is about as American

1079
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: as he can get. Lars Newbar, what a game by

1080
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: him too, That guy's been because this is what the

1081
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: Cardinals do. They just pull guys out of their ass

1082
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: as they always do.

1083
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: They always do, and they always just find like random

1084
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: corner I field, just who are good like guy Laine

1085
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: Thomas Cardinals cast offs, having another fantastic week over there

1086
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 3: hitting lead off for the Washington Nationals. The guy's gonna

1087
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: be a good player, no doubt. And I just thought

1088
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: it was funny that we all wanted to see Luco

1089
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: so bad last night and he gave up two fucking

1090
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: moonshots to Goldsmith and Arnado, which was cool. I think

1091
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: something might be wrong. And then Heath Henbury was just

1092
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: riffed to shreds just threw him to the dogs. He

1093
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: was annihilated.

1094
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: They saw him twice in two days. You can't expect

1095
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Eith Hembury to go out and give you two winnings

1096
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: of good play.

1097
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: They have a shot.

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00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: If I saw Heath Henbry twice in two days, brad

1099
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: Hand got a one two three inning.

1100
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: This is like, that's how you know something' fucking wrong.

1101
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Something bad. Let me tell you something, brad Hand, He's

1102
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: gotten here. The juju has been all over the place.

1103
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: Did Jude's been bad all year, but brad Han's gotten here.

1104
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: And I have been an emotional mess with this team.

1105
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: Nothing kills my vibe like brad Hand's mustache.

1106
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh it's the worst. Shaved that fucking caterpillar above your lip.

1107
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 2: I'd love to just shave brands mustache off. Oh my god,

1108
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: I can't stand this guy.

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00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: Should be if it was a charity thing. How much

1110
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: money would you pay a shave off brad Man's must A.

1111
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Few hundred one?

1112
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: You might win.

1113
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: I think I would. I would be happily. We'll just

1114
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: have like a really old corroded razor.

1115
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a couple of cuts, gets tetanus.

1116
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: Hey doing Brad and them your barber today have a straight.

1117
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: Edge, adult adult razor.

1118
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Edward siss hands.

1119
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Well, while we're laughing, that's probably about the only enjoyment

1120
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: we got out of this, because, boy, the season is over.

1121
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: It's done. It is going to be, like I said

1122
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: at the bend of the podcast, almost impossible for the

1123
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Mets to come back. Here. Right now, looking at the standings,

1124
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: the Mets are five and a half out of first

1125
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: in the Nationally East and in the wild Card we

1126
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: are five games out of Saint Louis. Yeah, it didn't

1127
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: do us any favors. Would have been nice to beat

1128
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Saint Louis.

1129
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: Huh, this is exactly where we were like a week

1130
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: and a half ago before that big National Series. We're like,

1131
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: we gotta make up ground right now. Nothing's changed, nothing

1132
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: has changed.

1133
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: This team is just doomed to be right around that

1134
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: eighty one and eighty one record.

1135
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

1136
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: That would be awful if we just winds up eighty

1137
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: one and eighty one almost rather be under five hundred

1138
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: at that point, get the better draft pick.

1139
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: We're at the point that's the tank.

1140
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know if we're gonna sign that

1141
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: draft pick. So let's just just let's just let's walk

1142
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: from across.

1143
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: That bridge we get to it tank for Turmar Turmar Johnson.

1144
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: That's a kid to look keep an eye out for.

1145
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: Jeez. Find to the Phillies preview.

1146
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, let's let's talk about the Phillies preview, which

1147
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: this this is a series that I would just like

1148
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: to win just for my own personal feelings, because I

1149
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: love to trash the Phillies all things Philadelphia. It's a

1150
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: garbage city filled with garbage people. You guys know where

1151
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: I stand on that city. James not so much. I

1152
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: think it's important James likes the city of Philly.

1153
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: It does not like the Phillies though I hate the Phillies.

1154
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: And if any Mets fan wants a silver lining for

1155
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: this awful series is that we'll get to face Zack

1156
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: Wheeler on Friday sick.

1157
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: Wonderful. After a heartbreaking series, we get to get a

1158
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: complete game, shutout, one hitter.

1159
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's even better. We face Aaron Nola on Saturday.

1160
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Sweet, so he's gonna strike out ten batters in a

1161
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: row and break a record.

1162
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

1163
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: And then the Mets, for some reason, are once again

1164
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: playing on Sunday Night Baseball this weekend.

1165
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: That's gonna be flexed out. There's no way that these

1166
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: two teams should be on Sunday Night baseball. There has

1167
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: to be a better man.

1168
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: We don't flex and it's Ridge Hill versus Kyle Gibson.

1169
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: Electric matchup Electric for sun Oh Sunday Night Baseball. I'm

1170
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: sure that's gonna be the highest numbers of the year.

1171
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: ESPN really knows.

1172
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: How to get the asses in the seats going up

1173
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Againstunday night football. They really knew how to focus in

1174
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: on this one.

1175
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why. Maybe they're just just like the Mets

1176
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: have done this year. Maybe they're punting and they're like

1177
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: a whatever.

1178
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: I just for people follow me on Twitter. I've gotten

1179
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: to Jim Trestle memes.

1180
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm ready to punt st out whenever a high profile

1181
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: college or NFL team either punt or doesn't punt in

1182
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: a in a situation where they either should punch or

1183
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: should not punt, It's gonna be fun.

1184
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: What a miserable miss series? We just saw Phillies one

1185
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: do we? I don't even want to do predictions for it,

1186
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: because who cares.

1187
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: Let's what's a prediction? Yeah?

1188
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean Zach what is gonna crush us? Aaronel is

1189
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna kill us? And then Kyle Gibbs is gonna loss

1190
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: to sleep.

1191
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll just play respectable baseball maybe, I don't know.

1192
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Try not to get too embarrassed, don't get maybe, just

1193
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: don't make a chippy, don't embarrass yourself.

1194
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Don't anybody get hurt.

1195
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: I guess what were gonna get hurt for it? We'll

1196
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: playing next week, we go to Boston to Milwaukee. Like

1197
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: we're not gonna win those games at all. We have

1198
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: a nice time off everyone. Just get ready for your trips.

1199
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: Make sure your golf swing is ready and ready to play.

1200
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: Get a nice new bathing suit when you.

1201
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Go down to the spot next year.

1202
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think these guys have all lost the spots.

1203
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know what any of the one could

1204
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: do to earn their spots over the next week and

1205
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: a half.

1206
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to see McNeil play a little a lot better.

1207
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: He's been struggling like crazy. I'd like to see JD

1208
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: get some more at bats, even give Dom a few. Now,

1209
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: let's see what everybody's got. I think Pete's do for

1210
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: a night off. Go ahead, play Dom at first base

1211
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: if you want to.

1212
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: If I want to see Pete gets a forty homers, oh.

1213
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to see forty from Pete. That

1214
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: is true, all right, Play Dom in right field one game,

1215
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: stick and forward. He's gonna he's a free agent. Gotta

1216
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: see what some of these guys got left here. I

1217
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm trying to find anything with this season

1218
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: to care about for the rest of the way.

1219
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: It's hard. I have nothing right now.

1220
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: I also, really, is Pete only a thirty three so

1221
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: that's even a tall task for him.

1222
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: To get seven and fifteen games.

1223
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: He's done it before.

1224
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: That would be quite stretched. You know what we're Pete

1225
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: to forty. That's what I'm watching for. He's gonna get

1226
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: to forty. Was a for fucking large newpar robbin it

1227
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: to be one closer. That's a fake name, unbelievable. He

1228
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: may a sick catch too in right field. You can't

1229
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: rob an opposite field home run.

1230
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: That's criminal.

1231
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: He's a fine little player, Lars nwpar I will say that. Well,

1232
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna take us here to the end

1233
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: of episode number fifty. Really wish that we could have

1234
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: been Celebraton would have been nice. This could have been

1235
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: around the time where we could have clinched a playoff spot,

1236
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: maybe if this team had any sort of killer instinct

1237
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: in them, because we let the Braves and Phillies hang

1238
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: around for ten fucking weeks while we were just picking

1239
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: our nose and doing nothing. But yeah, episode fifty is

1240
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: a somber one. It is. The season is officially over.

1241
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: Part two, which you guys have you know, are a

1242
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: part one. But thank you guys for listening, Thank you

1243
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: for watching. Make sure to follow us on Twitter and Instagram,

1244
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 1: as well as TikTok app, mets up, the YouTube channel,

1245
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: mets up podcast drop James the follow on Twitter at

1246
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: your had no range myself Mark Draftnick Mark. Thank you

1247
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: guys for listening, Thank you for watching. Drop us a

1248
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: five star rating on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, drop

1249
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: Us review, and we'll catch you after the Philly series.

1250
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Even though the season's over, We're not stopping.

1251
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: See you next time, see later.

1252
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: There only for a moment, and the moment's gone. Oh man, dreams.

1253
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Best before my eyes.

1254
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: A curiosity duestin the wind. All there is dustin the wind, same.

1255
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Just a drop of water in it.

1256
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: And the sea, Oh we do.

1257
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: Crumbles to the ground, though.

1258
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: We refuse to see.

1259
00:49:16,760 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: Gods, all we are is dusting the win do nothing

1260
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: less forever, But the advance guy, it swoops away. Did

1261
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: your money hold another minute?

1262
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: By dusting the wind?

1263
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: Oh we are is dusting the wall. We are is dusted.

1264
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: We justted.

1265
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: Though everything is dusted.

1266
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: Everything is dusting the way