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Speaker 1: for Week sixteen in the National Football League, the penultimate
Speaker 1: week of Guessing lines. That means second last. Chris Andrews
Speaker 1: is here from the South Point Hotel Casino. You know
Speaker 1: the routine tribute to the old Stardust radio show of
Speaker 1: a similar name with Roxy Roxboro starring in that one
Speaker 1: where we go through the lines. I am in a cocoon.
Speaker 1: I try to guess the lines for next week's NFL games.
Speaker 1: Chris tells me what he'll post it and after the show,
Speaker 1: and within that process, perhaps some extraction of value should
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Speaker 1: guessing lines with Chrissie Andrews right here on the Beating
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Speaker 1: Week sixteen. Jeff, we have so much to get to today.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous how much there is talking about in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, go over all the games yesterday when we
Speaker 1: discussed next week's games. Of the process, what were you
Speaker 1: telling me, Jeff right there, to look up what's going on?
Speaker 1: What's going on? So it's just I was just telling
Speaker 1: you which clock to look at the clock, that our
Speaker 1: normal clock is correct. The clock that is right in
Speaker 1: front of you is incorrect. I see, I see Jeff
Speaker 1: Parlay is here. That's the voice of Jeff Parley, producing
Speaker 1: number five and of course the star of guessing lines
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. He's the sports book director here at
Speaker 1: the South Point Hotel Casino. It's Chris Andrews. Good morning, Chrissy.
Speaker 1: What's going on now? How is the weekend? Weekend was well,
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo made it all good for me? Last
Speaker 1: night wasn't wasn't so fun before that yesterday for me
Speaker 1: because I had the Skins among others, which of course
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get too momentarily. How was it from
Speaker 1: a book perspective? Sarah, uh, not good? First of all,
Speaker 1: Saturday was terrible just because Joe Burrow find the heisman,
Speaker 1: which we you know, we saw a comment for like
Speaker 1: the last month, but there was really nothing we could
Speaker 1: do about it. We owned them two D one, didn't
Speaker 1: have that much money on them, but enough where we've
Speaker 1: lost you know, not quite six figures, but you know,
Speaker 1: just shying at uh and we just didn't have enough
Speaker 1: to make up for it. And then yesterday, the morning
Speaker 1: started out disastrous, but we made a little comeback in
Speaker 1: the late games and then the Pittsburgh and actually worked
Speaker 1: that well for us, So even though I was still
Speaker 1: rooting for my Steelers, but nonetheless worked out well for
Speaker 1: the book. And you know, the one up slightly on
Speaker 1: the plus for yesterday, but very very slightly. By the way,
Speaker 1: about that Joe Burrow thing, almost five of the Heisman ballots,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow set the record. He beat Troy Smith's record
Speaker 1: for the largest percentage of first place votes ever um,
Speaker 1: which we sort of predicted here on a numbers game
Speaker 1: might happen. But the fact that almost five percent of
Speaker 1: the of the ballots did not have his name on
Speaker 1: them at all, that needs parlay. That's an investigation in
Speaker 1: the Heisman voting, Like those people should have their ballots removing.
Speaker 1: What is that about? Why do they have votes? You
Speaker 1: didn't put Burrow on the ballot. He and I were
Speaker 1: talking about that over the weekend, like this ridiculous. So
Speaker 1: I'll ask few Tech about that tomorrow. He's got a
Speaker 1: Heisman vote. Let's find out. Let's find out. I use
Speaker 1: one of them. We'll try to extract, we'll take away
Speaker 1: his Heisman vote. I don't think a few Tech was
Speaker 1: one who didn't that Burrow on the ballot, but we'll
Speaker 1: find out what how he voted. Chris, we gotta do this,
Speaker 1: uh immediately without the pleasantries, because there's so much to
Speaker 1: get to this week. Let us begin with Thursdays. Uh no,
Speaker 1: Thursday their Saturday? Which Saturday? Time of year? Yeah? Second,
Speaker 1: did I get the wrong schedule here? No, we got
Speaker 1: Saturday games. Um, that's how Cocoon died. Am Chris Rams
Speaker 1: at San Francisco. We have three Saturday games, three Saturdays,
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Okay, No, Thursday game five were scheduled, but
Speaker 1: we have three, and as ram San Francisco the first
Speaker 1: of the three Saturday games pronologically, well, Jeff is telling me, no,
Speaker 1: first one, it's first in the rotation, but last time wise,
Speaker 1: So how do you want to do it? Let's do
Speaker 1: it chronologically what's first, then, Yeah, Houston at Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Houston at Tampa Bay. Alright, we're off to a raring start, alright.
Speaker 1: Houston at Tampa Bay. Houston with the win over Tennessee
Speaker 1: yesterday to twenty one to take the lead in the
Speaker 1: a f C South, they can clinch the a f
Speaker 1: C South by the win. By the way, with a
Speaker 1: win in this game against Tampa Bay, Kamie fair bar
Speaker 1: and twenty nine yard field goal with three twenty six
Speaker 1: remaining yesterday provide ultimately the winning margin. Texans scored ten
Speaker 1: straight points in the fourth quarter to break up in
Speaker 1: a fourteen fourteen game. They get that field goal to
Speaker 1: win nine plus wins for the fifth time and six
Speaker 1: seasons under Bill O'Brien. De Shawn Yesterday seven for two
Speaker 1: forty three, two touchdowns, two picks and a sack, Carlos
Speaker 1: Hide for one, oh Florida touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins six catches
Speaker 1: for one nineteen Tennessee intercepted to Shawn twice inside the
Speaker 1: Titans five maybe even inside the one. Really uh Tannehill though,
Speaker 1: the biggest play of this game was when it was
Speaker 1: zero to zero and Tannehill was picked at the goal line.
Speaker 1: Um Titans had first and goal at the five. Anthony
Speaker 1: first Girl popped out on a hit by Reid. Then
Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless got it out of the air ran at
Speaker 1: eighty six yards to the Tennessee fourteen, basically flipping the field.
Speaker 1: Watson hit Kenny Stills a couple of plays later to
Speaker 1: give the Texans a seven to nothing lead. And that's
Speaker 1: really how that game changed. Could have gone completely different
Speaker 1: if the item's punch it in there, but it's dead.
Speaker 1: Texans stake the lead and again they can clinch their
Speaker 1: division with a win over Tampa Bay. In this game,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay now has won four straight and five of six.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay gets it done beating Detroit thirty eight to seventeen.
Speaker 1: They took a big lead, then it got closed, then
Speaker 1: they took another big lead. Jamis Winston Chris forty two
Speaker 1: for four fifty eight, four touchdowns, one pick, two sacks.
Speaker 1: He was playing with a small fracture in his right thumb,
Speaker 1: didn't have Mike Evans, who was out with the hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: He's out for the year, but Jamis becomes the first
Speaker 1: player in the history of the National Football League to
Speaker 1: throw for four hundred fifty plus yards in consecutive games
Speaker 1: for fifty six last week for fifty eight yesterday, Cheez
Speaker 1: set career highs with two d one yards passing in
Speaker 1: the first quarter three oh eight by halftime. Godwin was
Speaker 1: his big target five for one twenty one. Then he
Speaker 1: left the game with hamstring injury in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: so Paramant actually was the big one five for one thirteen,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. The one thirteen and the three touchdowns all
Speaker 1: career highs for a guy who was gonna sign in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And then when they signed O b J, he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: go elsewhere. Total yards for the Bucks for only forty
Speaker 1: nine of those on the ground, What do they care?
Speaker 1: Bucks are seven and seven now good for Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston and the Bucks. All that said, interconference game
Speaker 1: means big things to the Texans. Bucks just trying to
Speaker 1: finish strong. I will I split the difference between the
Speaker 1: three and the zero. I say Texans minus one and
Speaker 1: a half on the road. It's one and a half
Speaker 1: and two. Gil, I see both numbers. I thought, this
Speaker 1: is a really tough number to make, you know, just
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to get a good gauge. Well
Speaker 1: really on either teams. Like you said, Houston, that game
Speaker 1: quote really turned around quite easily. And Tampa Bay, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, we've got flooded with Tampa Bay money
Speaker 1: all week, and the Detroit kind of got back in
Speaker 1: the game. I thought we had a chance to to
Speaker 1: to tie it. Actually we really needed Detroit balley. It
Speaker 1: was a terrible game for us. So I had a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble making this number. Uh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with one and a half, so I kind of like
Speaker 1: your number, but which one and a half and two?
Speaker 1: It's hard to tick her with either of those, neither
Speaker 1: one key numbers. But should be a good game to
Speaker 1: start our Saturday. And uh, you know, people really knocked
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien quite a bit. Maybe I still have a
Speaker 1: little of allegiance to him since he really rescued Penn
Speaker 1: State after the Sandusky the bak off there. But that
Speaker 1: guy is a pretty good coach, I think, And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure why I gets knocked quite so much. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Houston one and a half, Houston one and a half.
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, Bill O'Brien again, nine plus wins for
Speaker 1: the fifth time in six seasons. Uh. There in Houston,
Speaker 1: the only issue with the Texas is and this is
Speaker 1: just sort of just peeling away for a second and
Speaker 1: trying to look at them big picture. They are just
Speaker 1: so untrustworthy from week to week, right. I Mean, we'd
Speaker 1: say that's about a bunch of teams. But for a
Speaker 1: team with a nine and five record, do you trust
Speaker 1: them in any single game? I do not. So from
Speaker 1: a betting standpoint, they're still very, uh, very tough for
Speaker 1: me to get behind them. Like I said, if that
Speaker 1: play doesn't happen, if the merciless pick that goes a
Speaker 1: D six yards the other way doesn't happen, maybe it's
Speaker 1: a totally different outcome. Yesterday was game number two on Saturday.
Speaker 1: I would agree game number two good one. Buffalo at
Speaker 1: New England. Dude, that is good. Buffalo at New England.
Speaker 1: Buffalo clinches a playoff berth last night. That's two out
Speaker 1: of the last three years under Sean McDermott. They won
Speaker 1: for the fourth time in five games with their win
Speaker 1: yesterday last night over Pittsburgh seventeen to ten. Uh. The
Speaker 1: total ended up being thirty seven. It goes under comfortably. Uh.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen thirteen of twenty five for one thirty nine
Speaker 1: one touchdown one Picky Sack once also rushed for a
Speaker 1: score by the way through a fourteen yard touchdown past
Speaker 1: the Tyler Croft with seven fifty five to play last night,
Speaker 1: Bills beat the Steelers as a menu clinch the playoff berth.
Speaker 1: Consecutive picks by Duck Hodges to end this game to
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer and then on a subsequent drive to Levi
Speaker 1: Wallace at sealed the victory for the Bills. And then
Speaker 1: there's the Patriots. They went to Cincinnati. It was tough early,
Speaker 1: but then they broke away. They clinched a playoff berth
Speaker 1: through the Patriots for their eleventh straight season. That extends
Speaker 1: the NFL record. They win the a f C East
Speaker 1: for the eleventh straight season with a win in either
Speaker 1: of their final two games, so either Week sixteen or
Speaker 1: Week seventeen they get the division two tenth straight season
Speaker 1: with eleven plus wins. That extends the records. And Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick the first NFL coach to reach the playoffs in
Speaker 1: eleven straight seasons. Just ridiculous. Some franchises like I don't know,
Speaker 1: the Redskins just to name one, could barely get there
Speaker 1: at all. These guys do it every year, no problem.
Speaker 1: Brady fifteen of twenty nine for one, two touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked twice. Uh. He is one shy of
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's career record for most touchdowns. He's got five
Speaker 1: thirty eight. But he missed open receivers yesterday numerous times
Speaker 1: in this game. It is really not sharp Tom Brady anymore. Uh.
Speaker 1: They were plus five in turnovers. That was really the
Speaker 1: story of that game. Since he had five turnovers, the
Speaker 1: Patriots had none. Stefan Gilmore returning one of New England's
Speaker 1: four second half picks sixty four yards for a score.
Speaker 1: That was the big play of the game. Patriots played
Speaker 1: man to man in the second half. Just dared Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton a b him. He couldn't. Fourth time this season
Speaker 1: that the Patriots have picked off four passes in the game. Wow,
Speaker 1: fourth time a quartet of picks. I will say, New
Speaker 1: England minus four and a half, big game with division implications.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's mostly six and a half. I like
Speaker 1: six better, and I do see some sixes out there,
Speaker 1: and that is what I'm gonna open this game. Um.
Speaker 1: First of all, Brady, you know, just did not look
Speaker 1: good and I had queued up. I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: I had queued up a picture of like Father Time,
Speaker 1: you know, to go and google there's images father Time.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna plead it out because there was
Speaker 1: ten ten. I mean, this game was, you know, really
Speaker 1: hanging in the batance. Obviously we needed since and on
Speaker 1: outright victory would have been great, but you know it
Speaker 1: was that defense again. They came through for New England.
Speaker 1: Four picks, like you said, one one return for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Um that this team, though, it really does remind me
Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos Super Bowl winning team in Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning's final year, where Peyton was really a shell of himself. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the defense carried them and they won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think when we look back in history,
Speaker 1: it's one of the worst Super Bowl winners for one
Speaker 1: of the first, one of the worst teams to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in history. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: the Patriots are probably better than that team and Brady
Speaker 1: it makes a little better than what Peyton Manning was
Speaker 1: at that point, but he's just really not that good.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's even an average quarterback at this point.
Speaker 1: On the other side, Alan Um you look at this
Speaker 1: pass rating sixty point three, which is awful. There's QBR
Speaker 1: fifty nine point four, and I think that's a much
Speaker 1: more accurate picture. Uh, the guy made some big plays
Speaker 1: when he has You know, it wasn't great. Fifteen nine
Speaker 1: point four isn't a great QVR, but it's good and
Speaker 1: it fits this team well. And that's what I've been saying.
Speaker 1: Is he a great quarterback? No, definitely not. Is he
Speaker 1: a good quarterback questionable? Do he fit this team? Yes?
Speaker 1: And that I think there's gonna be a determining factor
Speaker 1: and make them very dangerous in the playoffs if they
Speaker 1: get the game where they can kind of control the tempo.
Speaker 1: And I think this game is really kind of gonna
Speaker 1: be played at their tempo. It's not the high scoring
Speaker 1: game that we maybe we'd be used through out in
Speaker 1: New England. Totals thirty eight and a half. I think
Speaker 1: that's probably about right. So I like the lower number here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open six. They might bet me up on
Speaker 1: this one, but I'm a little closer to your number
Speaker 1: than I am in the With the six and a half,
Speaker 1: it's the predominant number. Anti six is a good place
Speaker 1: to start. Thirty eight and a half, as you mentioned
Speaker 1: on the total. Interesting, Yeah, I think that's too many points.
Speaker 1: I do. I think that's too many points. I like
Speaker 1: buffalo here, if you're giving me all those points, and
Speaker 1: you said it perfectly. I think about Josh Allen. No
Speaker 1: one's anointing him, no one's saying he's elite, but we
Speaker 1: all owe him a big apology, don't we. From the
Speaker 1: consensus sort of prognostication on how you know successful, he'd
Speaker 1: be at this level doing quite well. As the Bills
Speaker 1: are headed to the playoffs for the second time in
Speaker 1: three years, let's do the final game on Saturday, then
Speaker 1: the one that you started with. Yeah, first in the rotation.
Speaker 1: But last thing the U chronologically is Rams at San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Talking about teams you can't trust, how about the l
Speaker 1: A Rams. They look like Gangbusters last Sunday night against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Yeah, it was probably a down spot for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But nonetheless the Rams come out against the
Speaker 1: Cowboys yesterday and just get rolled. Rams can still make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But here's the deal. They need two wins
Speaker 1: and two Vikings losses to clinch a playoff. Berth. That's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to for the Rams, who are
Speaker 1: now eight and six. Jared golf I won't even go
Speaker 1: through his stats because they were all pretty much a
Speaker 1: massed in garbage time. Here's all you need to know
Speaker 1: about the Rams and the Cowboys yesterday, Cowboys winning forty
Speaker 1: four to twenty one. Uh. They were out rushed the
Speaker 1: Rams by the Cowboys two sixty three to twenty two. Yes,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley eleven carries for twenty yards as schizophrenic season
Speaker 1: of Todd Gurley continues. The Niners, even in defeat, Niners
Speaker 1: lose at the gun to the Falcons. Two reviews late
Speaker 1: in that game. Finally, the second one goes the Falcons
Speaker 1: way Julio Jones over the plane and the Niners lose
Speaker 1: outright to the Falcons, who were ultimately in that Uh.
Speaker 1: In that game, we're ten and a half, ten point
Speaker 1: dogs somewhere in that pocket. But the Niners lose outright
Speaker 1: twenty two. Why the seven points because again there was
Speaker 1: a last play of the game that uh that included
Speaker 1: an extra touchdown. But they still clinch a playoff berth
Speaker 1: with that Rams loss yesterday do the Niners, so they're
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Here's how the Niners get back to
Speaker 1: the number one seed. It's very simple. They just win
Speaker 1: their last two games. Easier said than done, but it's
Speaker 1: still on their on their racket. They get the number
Speaker 1: one seed if they win their final two games. Now,
Speaker 1: their three losses this year are all in the final seconds,
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks, to the Ravens, and to the foul
Speaker 1: Skins yesterday, all on the last play of the game.
Speaker 1: So and by the way that Seattle loss, man, do
Speaker 1: they want to go back? And uh, I wish they
Speaker 1: played that sequence in overtime differently, not that you know what,
Speaker 1: Maybe it would have been the same situation. Maybe they
Speaker 1: still would have had to win out at this point.
Speaker 1: But two Falcons touchdowns in the final five seconds yesterday,
Speaker 1: a pair of replay reversals in the last eight tikes
Speaker 1: of the clock, including Austin Hooper's apparent touchdown reception being
Speaker 1: ruled no good and then Julio Jones touchdown being ruled
Speaker 1: correct by the way, the h being being valid. Secondary
Speaker 1: from the Niners was missing three guys yesterday. Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: uh Wisky Tart and Kawan Williams were all out for
Speaker 1: the Niners yesterday. Rams At Niners. I think the Niners
Speaker 1: mounts back. I think the perception of them is still
Speaker 1: as high as it ever was, and I think people
Speaker 1: go back to thinking the Rams are just us. It's
Speaker 1: just a lost season for the Rams. I'll say the
Speaker 1: Niners minus six. Your cab like six and a half,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good number myself. I think
Speaker 1: seven probably be a little too high, just a tad cheeks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open six and a half. By the way,
Speaker 1: I have to correct one thing. He said. The Falcon
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns in the last five seconds. They scored
Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the final two seconds, and of course
Speaker 1: the last one pushed the game over and it cost us.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I even have to tell you that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course we were. We were. We were crazy about
Speaker 1: that first to now, but not the second one. So anyway,
Speaker 1: are you gonna do his laugh? But at six and
Speaker 1: a HAPs when I'm gonna go with, I think that's
Speaker 1: a good number. Six and a half. I could live
Speaker 1: with that, all right. Of those three Buffalo, give me Buffalo,
Speaker 1: I think that's too many points. I'll take the Bills
Speaker 1: in that game against the Patriots with the points, we'll
Speaker 1: come back and yes we will talk about the whole
Speaker 1: coin flip ridiculousness in that Cowboys Ramps game. When we
Speaker 1: get to the Cowboys whole bunch of refereeing errors yesterday,
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Speaker 1: lines Week sixteen in the National Football ag I've already
Speaker 1: landed on Buffalo. That's one already. Uh, Chrissie. Hopefully there's
Speaker 1: no delay. We had a strange delay in the first segment.
Speaker 1: Technology trying to torpedo us. Are you there? You good?
Speaker 1: I am here. Hopefully we don't have the delay. I
Speaker 1: think we have. We have ever raised the delay. No
Speaker 1: delay from here for we we rebooted patient X loose
Speaker 1: in the corner, rebooted, so we're good to go, all right,
Speaker 1: Chris what's next. We go to Sunday? Now, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we go to Sunday. The next two games in the
Speaker 1: rotations that moved to the afternoon. So do you want
Speaker 1: to do next in the rotation or time sequence? Let's
Speaker 1: do time sequence. Let's do chronologically. Okay, Jacksonville and Avoyana
Speaker 1: to five and nine teams. There's a couple who cares games.
Speaker 1: There's a few of them this week. Yeah, I won't
Speaker 1: linger on the Falcons. Is as we mentioned, good effort
Speaker 1: by the Falcons yesterday against the Niners ten and a
Speaker 1: half for ten point dogs depending where you got it,
Speaker 1: closing there four and two since they started one and seven.
Speaker 1: So good for Dan Quinn, good for Matt Ryan, Julio
Speaker 1: Jones finally showed up yesterday. Uh five and nine? Though
Speaker 1: where were they earlier in the season. As far as
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's concerned, Jacksonville who was losing games by ridiculous amounts
Speaker 1: of points, and Jeff and I had this exchange here
Speaker 1: a couple of times where I was like, should be
Speaker 1: careful about saying teams of quit and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe you're right about Jacksonville, though, boy they look terrible.
Speaker 1: Two D sixty two total yards. They fall behind Oakland
Speaker 1: yesterday sixteen to three in the last game at the Oakland,
Speaker 1: Alama County Coliseum, and then Gardner Minshew two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: to Chris Conney in the final five fifteen of that
Speaker 1: game Jaguar spoil the final game at the Colisseum. They
Speaker 1: beat the Raiders twenty to sixteen as a dog, as
Speaker 1: a specifically as a six and a half point dog
Speaker 1: in that game. Minshew after the game, quote, probably saw
Speaker 1: more middle fingers today than I have in my whole life. Unquote.
Speaker 1: Welcome to an Oakland Raiders game. Uh and and and
Speaker 1: the Raiders fans booing Derek Carr for some reason after
Speaker 1: that game. But here, here's the deal with this game.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have saved this part for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I'll save it for the Raiders. But the way the
Speaker 1: Raiders lost that game. I had this whole long conversation
Speaker 1: with e about it yesterday. My buddy, you know where
Speaker 1: he had, He was on the Raiders. He had the
Speaker 1: money line, so he was really, really and justifiably piste
Speaker 1: about how the refs screwed the Raiders. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: When we talked about the Raiders But what I said
Speaker 1: to him was that you're right about that. But then
Speaker 1: the Raiders compounded it like they just didn't keep their
Speaker 1: heads in it and they did something really stupid. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that. But Jacksonville wins this um doesn't matter
Speaker 1: both of them in Atlanta or five and nine. It's
Speaker 1: at Atlanta, you said, I'll say Atlanta minus seven. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're right on. I think that's a little high, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead open the set. I'm open seven.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to mess with a six and
Speaker 1: a seven things. I think that's a shade high, kind
Speaker 1: of like Jacksonville here at Lanta. Every time you start
Speaker 1: believing in them, they revert to some of their old habits.
Speaker 1: So I think a shade high. I don't want to
Speaker 1: dwell too much on it. Let me just say the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game really rescued us yesterday. That was big. Then
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he lost his money I had. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm in a couple of contests. I had the Raiders
Speaker 1: and every one of them at sixteen nothing. I thought.
Speaker 1: I worked coast and I'm the smartest guy that's ever lived.
Speaker 1: That wasn't to be. But jack Law and that showed
Speaker 1: a lot of guts and I was a team that
Speaker 1: you know, maybe did quit and going into uh, you know,
Speaker 1: horn Ands Nest in uh in Oakland, I'm surprised they
Speaker 1: showed up. But they did. Absolutely they did, and they
Speaker 1: didn't quit at all. They played very tough. I I
Speaker 1: like seven, I'm gonna go with, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a little high. A little high, okay, but seven is
Speaker 1: what you're starting with. Uh. I have the Raider. I
Speaker 1: had the Raiders yesterday in Circa. But I will tell
Speaker 1: you this for for the off the grid season win
Speaker 1: stock Market thing, I do like I've faded the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and it looked like I was just gonna get crushed
Speaker 1: by the Raiders quick start to the season. It has
Speaker 1: all come back to me. That was such a massive
Speaker 1: outcome for me yesterday and we might as well just
Speaker 1: say it right now for those who missed it. The
Speaker 1: Raiders tried to run out the clock, got a pair
Speaker 1: of first down and runs from Josh Jacobs another from
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, but the game really came down to this.
Speaker 1: It looked like the Raiders had sealed this game. With
Speaker 1: two oh five left, It looked like they had sealed
Speaker 1: the game, Derek Carr trying to slide down in bound.
Speaker 1: He absolutely slid inbounds, um sparing and it would spared
Speaker 1: the Jaguars from using a time out. But what they
Speaker 1: did is the refs ruled hit out of bounds. So
Speaker 1: you you and I'll go through it play by play,
Speaker 1: But essentially what happens is Derek Carr ran the ball
Speaker 1: for thirteen yards north of the two minute morning, so
Speaker 1: with more than two minutes left in the game, he
Speaker 1: got a first down and looked like he slid in
Speaker 1: bounds that would keep the clock rolling. Instead, what ends
Speaker 1: up happening is the refs rule it out of bounds.
Speaker 1: It stops the clock with two oh five left, Car
Speaker 1: thinking that the clock was rolling down the two minute
Speaker 1: warning late to the huddle. They get a five yard penalty. Okay,
Speaker 1: no big deal. They run Josh Jacobs into the it's
Speaker 1: still first down, first and fifteen. Now, uh, Jaguars still
Speaker 1: only have one time out left. So even though the
Speaker 1: refs prevented them from clinching the victory right there, because
Speaker 1: the Jaguars will only have one time out on the
Speaker 1: other side of the two minute warning, you know they
Speaker 1: still could could manipulate this where the Jaguars gonna only
Speaker 1: get the ball back with very little time left, so
Speaker 1: they run Josh Jacobs into the into the line, two
Speaker 1: minute warning. Second down, they run Josh Jacobs in and
Speaker 1: the third down again, Jaguars used their final time out,
Speaker 1: and then on third and eleven, which would have been
Speaker 1: a forty nine yard field, well, if they don't get
Speaker 1: any if they don't advance the ball anymore, instead of
Speaker 1: running it and taking forty seconds off the clock, they
Speaker 1: throw it in complete and it stops the clock. And
Speaker 1: the announcer said nothing. They say nothing about this, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, as a guy who wants Jacksonville to win
Speaker 1: at this point for my season long thing, I'm going crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe they did that.
Speaker 1: They try a forty nine yard field, it misses, They
Speaker 1: call a penalty on Jacksonville. They get another shot at
Speaker 1: it misses again. Jacksonville with the shorter field with just
Speaker 1: a touchdown to win the game, and unbelo eviable confluence
Speaker 1: of events won. The refs destroy the Raiders there, and
Speaker 1: then the Raiders compound their own problem. And the announcer
Speaker 1: said nothing about that ladder thing. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: what we learned yesterday in NFL. In the NFL is
Speaker 1: we know nothing. We learned new things every week. We've
Speaker 1: been watching this sport for our entire lives. We find
Speaker 1: out that that is not reviewable, but Derek Carr slide
Speaker 1: is apparently not reviewable, but a coin flip and the
Speaker 1: tape that is involved in a coin flip in Dallas
Speaker 1: that apparently can get reviewed in New York. So we
Speaker 1: know nothing about this sport, Chris, that we've watched our
Speaker 1: entire lives. I said, you know, when I mentioned it before,
Speaker 1: when I was briefly I wasn't employed by William Hill,
Speaker 1: but with Calton Eva when William Hill is behind them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they wanted me to help them with some of the
Speaker 1: uh uh, the in game stuff. I just I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like impossible, you know what I mean. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: it is possible, but it's extremely difficult because the scoring
Speaker 1: is just totally bizarre. You know, we have come to
Speaker 1: accept it. But between referee calls and you know, seven
Speaker 1: essentially for a touchdown, three for field goal. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the tennesseee game where it looks like Tennessee is gonna
Speaker 1: score seven the other team scores seven. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just crazy. Or basketball. Listen, you you blow a lay
Speaker 1: up or you know, or a turnover in mid court,
Speaker 1: the other team goes in, they get tooled. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be scored in the Game's not that big
Speaker 1: a deal, but this one is monstrous. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know that's a couple of perfect examples right there. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I had the game. I turned the sound
Speaker 1: bot and you're right, the announcers and actually got who
Speaker 1: they were. Didn't say a word about didn't say a word.
Speaker 1: It didn't say a word like that was the biggest
Speaker 1: decision of the game. You know. Uh, just the the
Speaker 1: inability to understand when probability by NFL coaches at that
Speaker 1: point in game. It's just at that point in games
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. Anyway, we're not even at the Raiders yet,
Speaker 1: but Atlanta and minus seven was my guest, And you're
Speaker 1: opening it at what against Jacksonville. No, I'm gonna open seven,
Speaker 1: but I gets a little high, Yeah, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with that number, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open seven. All right, what's another one here? New
Speaker 1: Orleans at Tennessee, so New Orleans. We haven't seen New
Speaker 1: Orleans tonight taking on the Indianapolis Colts. New Orleans has
Speaker 1: already clinched a playoff birth their nine point favorite tonight
Speaker 1: against the Colts. By the way, if the Colts lose,
Speaker 1: their eliminated from playoff contention, so the proverbial must win
Speaker 1: situation for the Colts tonight um Tennessee. As we mentioned,
Speaker 1: four game winning streaks snapped, they can still win the
Speaker 1: a f C South, can the Titans if they win
Speaker 1: their final two games and Houston loses to Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: this Saturday, which we just spoke about. Six straight games
Speaker 1: with twenty plus points in the second half for Tennessee.
Speaker 1: But as we mentioned, uh didn't get it done yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dug themselves a hole. Couldn't get out of it, Ryan
Speaker 1: suck up. By the way, one of six since being
Speaker 1: activated off the i R for the Titans. Is that good?
Speaker 1: One of six bill goals? I'll say New Orleans minus
Speaker 1: two and a half, though we haven't seen New Orleans
Speaker 1: play yet. Yeah, it's it's one and a half. I
Speaker 1: think that's a decent number right there. I think it
Speaker 1: could go a little bit higher, but I want to
Speaker 1: want to go to high with this Tennessee. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, a well coached team, a
Speaker 1: good getting good quarterback play. You know, they blew the
Speaker 1: game yesterday, there's no doubt. But let's not remember too
Speaker 1: much of what happens just last week and Uh Tennessee,
Speaker 1: you know, certainly playing for their lives, and I think
Speaker 1: that does tend to get a little bit overrated. Kink
Speaker 1: wanted to have some decent Numbreds, but I'm gonna open it. Okay,
Speaker 1: problem with that? Give me another one. Oh you'll love
Speaker 1: this one. Giants at the Redskins. Giants at the Redskins.
Speaker 1: Everybody who's watching that, if you're not betting on it,
Speaker 1: certainly Skins fans won't be there. I promise you that
Speaker 1: that place was overrun by Philly fans once again yesterday.
Speaker 1: Giants at three and eleven Redskins or three at eleven.
Speaker 1: Um Giant snapped a nine game losing streak, Gay franchise
Speaker 1: record tying nine game losing streak yesterday. That was really
Speaker 1: an Eli Manning uh Swan song yesterday. If that if
Speaker 1: you believe that's his final uh start at Giants Stadium.
Speaker 1: Yesterday against the Dolphins. That was the way to go out,
Speaker 1: thirty six to twenty win for the Giants. Uh as
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites. Yesterday against the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Manning was twenty two eighty three, two touchdowns. He was
Speaker 1: picked three times, he sacked once, but he led the
Speaker 1: Giants the three touchdowns on their first five possessions in
Speaker 1: the second half. Choked back tears after the game. Sixteen
Speaker 1: years with the New York Giants, two time Super Bowl
Speaker 1: m v P. Se Kwan was good yesterday twelve two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Shepard was his best target nine for one eleven. And
Speaker 1: then there's the Redskins. My goodness for those of us
Speaker 1: who had the Redskins estion name. By the way, what
Speaker 1: was all that money on the Eagles overnight? Like? What?
Speaker 1: Why was there so much conviction on the Eagles. I
Speaker 1: know it ended up working out, but please, the Redskins
Speaker 1: were never the wrong side in that game until the
Speaker 1: very let's play they lose the Redskins due to the
Speaker 1: Eagles thirty seven to twenty seven, and don't cover they
Speaker 1: were six and a half point dogs. Uh. Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: nineteen two sixty one. I don't even know. I didn't
Speaker 1: need to, don't even need to go through the numbers.
Speaker 1: They lead the Eagles seven to three, fourteen to ten,
Speaker 1: twenty one to seventeen, and twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 1: As urban Meyer looked on from Dan Snyder's box. Don't
Speaker 1: think you should read into that. But a four yard
Speaker 1: pats from Winz to Greg Ward twenty six seconds left
Speaker 1: put Philly up for good. And then for those of
Speaker 1: us who had the Skins, we knew to watch it
Speaker 1: to the very end because I'm like, please, don't do
Speaker 1: anything dumb, Please don't do anything dumb. And then there's
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins on the final play of the game. He's
Speaker 1: about to get sacked, so he just decides, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw this backwards just to see if
Speaker 1: something could happen. Well, something did happen. Nigel Bradham grabbed
Speaker 1: it forty seven yards of the house uh ninety two
Speaker 1: percent of the money at Borgata on the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: They go nuts and the Eagles cover the Redskins. Don't
Speaker 1: so feel good story with Eli Manning and the Giants.
Speaker 1: Horrible story for Redskins betters. Both teams are three and eleven.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Redskins minus three, just because, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a little high, you're a little high. It's two and
Speaker 1: a half. I keep two and a half with some
Speaker 1: juice on the dog, two of some juice on the favorite.
Speaker 1: You know, I had two teams kind of penciled in
Speaker 1: here for big emotional letdowns. Uh, Oakland would be one
Speaker 1: of them. But the Giants or the other one, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they really wanted to win that game for Eli.
Speaker 1: They played about as good as the Giants could play.
Speaker 1: I watched it. That was a terrible result for us. Terrible.
Speaker 1: Jimmy posted that one ticket on the Eagles minus six
Speaker 1: and alf for fifty thousand. You know, but obviously that
Speaker 1: guy's hopefully bought a lottery ticket last night or something. Anyway, UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two and a half. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised this game goes to three, though. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna They're just gonna see a big emotional heads
Speaker 1: down from the Jackets after winning that game. For I've
Speaker 1: gotta be elive Swan song. You gotta figure in New York.
Speaker 1: So I hope he retires, I really do ye, But
Speaker 1: two and a half. I think that's a little light.
Speaker 1: I see it lower, or I would open it three.
Speaker 1: But it's two and a half. Should I say it? Gil?
Speaker 1: I like the Redskins this week? Racket? Jeff Racket say
Speaker 1: that I like the Redskins this week. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: the Redskins Eagles thing. It describes it. It absolutely embodies
Speaker 1: my season. Very first week of the season, Redskins are
Speaker 1: at Philly. I had the Eagles. The Eagles went way down,
Speaker 1: remember they trailed seventeen to nothing. They came all the
Speaker 1: way back, they even went in to cover position, up
Speaker 1: double digits, and then the Redskins converted a fourth and
Speaker 1: six and a fourth and twelve on the final drive
Speaker 1: of the game to back door the Eagles. And those
Speaker 1: of us who had the Eagles on the on the
Speaker 1: on the spread, now I had the Redskins in this game.
Speaker 1: And then the most ridiculous alcohol of it all. That
Speaker 1: is my season in a nutshell book ended by Redskins
Speaker 1: Eagles ridiculous outcomes. Um. Last thing about this, Eli Manning
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers tied forever in history, Tied together because of
Speaker 1: the two thousand four NFL Draft, where there was the swapping,
Speaker 1: the the Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers, um,
Speaker 1: but they ended up going uh, you know, top two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in that draft. They've had these careers now where Eli,
Speaker 1: as I just mentioned, sixteen seasons, he's five hundred as
Speaker 1: a starter, gets back to five, but he's two times
Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v P, two times Super Bowl m VP,
Speaker 1: having beaten the Patriots, and most famously the undefeated Patriots
Speaker 1: team or the would be undefeated Patriots team in two
Speaker 1: thousand seven. And then there's Philip Rivers, who I believe
Speaker 1: had a better career than Eli Manning did, just in
Speaker 1: terms of stats and and and real you know, um
Speaker 1: day to day or week to week football, had a
Speaker 1: better career than Eli Manning did, despite ellies to amaze
Speaker 1: seminal performances. But Philip Rivers looks so bad now that
Speaker 1: you almost wonder if he has another season this bad,
Speaker 1: it's going to take away from his resume. So my
Speaker 1: question is, those two guys tied forever in history and
Speaker 1: football history together, who would you put in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame both either and if so, whom, Well, personally,
Speaker 1: I say Eli, I know it's personal on my part
Speaker 1: just for denying the Patriots two more Super Bowls and yeah,
Speaker 1: does it sounds a little bitter on my part? I
Speaker 1: guess it does. But I would do it just for that,
Speaker 1: you know that, and you know that's me, And I
Speaker 1: don't think so the Rivers deserves to be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I'm sorry, you know, a very very
Speaker 1: good career, but not great. I think they both end
Speaker 1: up in the Hall of Fame. And I'm not so
Speaker 1: sure either deserves it, but I think they both end
Speaker 1: up there. That's my that's my prediction. We'll see. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure either deserves it. Like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he'd dessert, but how would put just for that
Speaker 1: strictly personal reason. Yeah, we'll come back. We'll get some
Speaker 1: more lines. Much to talk about week sixteen, looking ahead
Speaker 1: week fifteen in the rear view, we'll talk about it all,
Speaker 1: guessing lines right here exclusively on a numbers game with
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews, right here at the Sports Betting Network. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to a numbers game with Kill Alexander. You know,
Speaker 1: many people don't know this because we don't mention it
Speaker 1: all the time. Chrissie Andrews, inventor of the pleaser, at
Speaker 1: least the term pleaser. Uh, this is Mitch Moss, who
Speaker 1: does follow the Money, of course with Paul Howard. Before
Speaker 1: this show, the Gentile version of the show, as we
Speaker 1: like to finally call it, he handed me this reverse
Speaker 1: teaser card here that you guys have at the South
Speaker 1: Point Chris, before I got on the air, and he says,
Speaker 1: look at this. Ten of them hit. It's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He's right. Ten of these legs hit on the reverse
Speaker 1: teaser Bucks, Pats, Chiefs, Giants, Vikings, Bills, Jags, Cardinals, Falcons
Speaker 1: and Cowboys Pleasers Cheez. I would lament that I didn't
Speaker 1: play these, but if I did, I promise you it
Speaker 1: would have been like a battleship game where I miss
Speaker 1: all of these. I have a way of missing him. Um,
Speaker 1: but pretty interesting for those who like to play the peers.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Chris for the For the record, I did
Speaker 1: not I did not invent the pleaser or the term.
Speaker 1: But I did invent the pleaser card, okay, or the
Speaker 1: reverse teaser cards. So I did invent that. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody kind of came out that I invented. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't invent the pleaser, but you know, my good
Speaker 1: friend who did invent it? And he's a very private
Speaker 1: guy and I've never mentioned his name. I don't think
Speaker 1: he wants his name to be out there. He helped me,
Speaker 1: you know, put together the card with the odds, like
Speaker 1: he's a brilliant guy. And I asked him, Hey, can
Speaker 1: you help me do this? Oh? Yeah, sure, I'd love to.
Speaker 1: And like the next day he had like this twenty
Speaker 1: three page bound report that you would expect to get,
Speaker 1: you know, you know from a guy, you know from
Speaker 1: like a business, you know, like if somebody told you
Speaker 1: in business, I need to have it. He had it
Speaker 1: for me the next day, like bound and everything. I
Speaker 1: don't think I have it anymore, but I wish I
Speaker 1: did that. He was like so thorough on everything that
Speaker 1: he did, and he was just of all the people
Speaker 1: I've met in this business, I met some really really
Speaker 1: smart one. He may be the smartest guy I've ever met.
Speaker 1: Might be. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know who you're talking about. You've never introduced me to
Speaker 1: him yet, but I know I know you speak of
Speaker 1: him very fondly. So you invented the pleaser card? Let
Speaker 1: me let me clear if I did. Please are card Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do one more here, Chris. Alright, Steelers
Speaker 1: at the Jets. Oh, that's fun. Steelers lose last night,
Speaker 1: eight and six. They lose to the Bills, as we
Speaker 1: talked about, seventeen to ten. Good football game. Jets. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're five and nine now. The Jets, of course, on
Speaker 1: Thursday got rolled by the Ravens. But again it was
Speaker 1: one of these games where the Jets should have been
Speaker 1: in it at halftime, but they just were being the Jets.
Speaker 1: But like that, outcome should have been somewhat different. But
Speaker 1: they lose forty twenty one. Steelers had an opportunity yesterday
Speaker 1: to leap frog the Bills for the top a f
Speaker 1: C wild card spot, but Buffalo snaps the three game
Speaker 1: winning streaks. Steelers are currently in the number six position
Speaker 1: in the a f C, though um they hold the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker right now over the Titans because of one fewer
Speaker 1: conference loss, So right now Pittsburgh in the playoffs if
Speaker 1: we're to start today. But of course they can't mess
Speaker 1: up anymore. Duck Hodges yesterday, who threw a couple of ducks,
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, at the end of that game twenty
Speaker 1: three thirty eight for two oh two, one touchdown, four
Speaker 1: picks with sack four times. Story of that game. Last night,
Speaker 1: Steelers had five turnovers. They were minus three against the
Speaker 1: Bills yesterday and the Jets, as we mentioned, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: doing Jets things. Donald was eighteen of thirty two for
Speaker 1: two eighteen on Thursday night. Crowder was his main target.
Speaker 1: I'll say Pittsburgh on the road minus three and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of like your number better. But it's three
Speaker 1: solid three. I really don't see anything else. I think
Speaker 1: one team and a half with some juice on the favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the Steelers here too. I really think that
Speaker 1: numbers a little light. Um. You know, say this about
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges. Uh, you know, listen, we knew he's he's
Speaker 1: a filling guy. You know. His QBR yesterday was, I
Speaker 1: believe the worst in the league ten point six. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, you in a game like that, you just
Speaker 1: cannot turn the ball over to a team like Buffalo.
Speaker 1: At Pittsburgh. I think they have a great, great defense.
Speaker 1: They can't give the the you can't give them four interceptions.
Speaker 1: You just can't do that. Um. But I will say
Speaker 1: this about Hodges. At some point I gotta let them play.
Speaker 1: You know, they're just throwing the ball. You know, all
Speaker 1: bunch of short passes were five point three yards per attempt,
Speaker 1: and most of that is you threw a lot shorter
Speaker 1: than that, you know, uh, you got to throw the
Speaker 1: ball downfield. And when he had to throw it downfield,
Speaker 1: he really couldn't do it. So you have to do
Speaker 1: it in times where you don't have to throw it
Speaker 1: down the field. But all that being said, I mean
Speaker 1: there are still the Jets, and if you're looking at
Speaker 1: the coaching mismatch, and certainly on the side of the
Speaker 1: of the Steelers and Donald, I like Donald a lot
Speaker 1: of the things he does that the kids still does
Speaker 1: not take care of the ball, and that's that is
Speaker 1: not a good formula for beating the Steelers. And I
Speaker 1: think the Steelers probably get a few turnovers here, and
Speaker 1: uh so I'm gonna open three, but in fact trends higher,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one of the first to move it
Speaker 1: higher if I see it born up. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: the Steelers. And if it's only three, give me the
Speaker 1: Steelers there. That defense is phenomenal. And I just will
Speaker 1: say this about Duck Hodges, You're right everything you said
Speaker 1: about him, but it is. It's just such a testament
Speaker 1: to how few guys there are who can play quarterback
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. The fact that he's got a
Speaker 1: and I get it, you know, Roethlisberger got hurt. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the starter otherwise, but he is starting over
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. Uh, starting over guys like Dobbs who were
Speaker 1: sent out of town, like you know, Power five Conference,
Speaker 1: guys who had all this hype coming into the pros.
Speaker 1: And here's this guy from Sanford start for an NFL team.
Speaker 1: It just shows you how few of these guys there are.
Speaker 1: They like him, and I think, justifiably so more than
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph right now. Uh, Steelers minus three, give me
Speaker 1: the stadium there. I think Dave Damna Shack, who's with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Boy by the way, and I have a little bit
Speaker 1: of a relationship. We've talked a couple of times. I
Speaker 1: imagine it. There's how many billion people on the earth
Speaker 1: and they can't find thirty two guys quarterbacks? Incredible and
Speaker 1: that's true. You can't. All right, let's do one more. Vincent.
Speaker 1: I thought there's some bad games Cincinnati had Miami. I
Speaker 1: thought the Giants and the Redskins is gonna take the Kike,
Speaker 1: But I guess this one does Cincinnati's one in thirteen,
Speaker 1: Miami's three and eleven Miami. We mentioned, Uh, they played
Speaker 1: with the Giants for a half and then the eli
Speaker 1: steam rolled him in the second half. Um Cincinnati loses
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. We also talked about that game. They
Speaker 1: played with him for the same amount about a half
Speaker 1: and then the Patriots ran away with it when the
Speaker 1: Patriots went in a man and man and man and
Speaker 1: then just picked off Dalton four times in the second half.
Speaker 1: Mixing was good yesterday carries a hundred thirty six yards,
Speaker 1: but that game was all about the turnovers minus five
Speaker 1: since he committed five turnovers. They were minus five in
Speaker 1: turnovers in that game. I'll say Miami at home against
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I don't know, minus two and a half,
Speaker 1: not quite the three. It's one and one and a half.
Speaker 1: I think I kind of like your number a little better.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open one and a half here, you know, Uh, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: I mean Joe Burrow. I think the kid has a
Speaker 1: lot of potential. I think he's really has all everything
Speaker 1: you need to be at pop NFL quarterback Cincinnati gonna
Speaker 1: get if they do. I mean, I just feel sorry
Speaker 1: they're gonna ruin this poor kid. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: they just It's true. Not a good situation there. Let's
Speaker 1: just say, uh, but I'm like, I like one and
Speaker 1: a half. I don't I see like a couple of
Speaker 1: one and a half but mostly one. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open one and a half. I think Miami certainly needs
Speaker 1: to be the favorite year and more than one. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open one and a half. They'll probably take
Speaker 1: it off me and God bless and they could have
Speaker 1: it all right. Hopefully we've gotten through most of the
Speaker 1: bad games, but still like two so far in the
Speaker 1: first hour Pittsburgh and Buffalo leaping off the page for me.
Speaker 1: We'll come back, We'll continue, We'll squeeze another one in
Speaker 1: here first hour. It is guessing lines. It's Chrissie Andrews
Speaker 1: right here on a numbers game at VASA and the
Speaker 1: Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to a numbers game with
Speaker 1: Jill Alexander. Back on the numbers game. Christie Andrews is
Speaker 1: here at Gil Alexander, Jeff Parlay. Let's squeeze in one
Speaker 1: more here before the top of the hour. Chris Okay,
Speaker 1: Panthers at the Colts. Another barn burner. Yeah, Colts haven't
Speaker 1: played again. They played a night there. What do you
Speaker 1: call it? Eight and a half point Dogs, nine and
Speaker 1: nine and a half What I said earlier, it's a
Speaker 1: nine consensus, but nine and a half here at the
Speaker 1: South point nine and a half point Dogs at New
Speaker 1: Orleans tonight. Carolina. Uh, they lose yesterday to Seattle thirty
Speaker 1: to twenty four, but that game ended up being much closer.
Speaker 1: Seattle was way up in that game, but Carolina came
Speaker 1: storming back. It ends up being really right on the
Speaker 1: number at thirty to twenty four. UM Kyle Allen to
Speaker 1: seventy seven, but one touchdown, three picks. They got some
Speaker 1: quarterback decisions to make in Kakallaki, that's for sure. Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey nineteen carries eighty seven yards to touchdowns, also caught
Speaker 1: eight balls for eighty eight. They're never gonna sit McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: They just gonna let him play out the season in
Speaker 1: risk injury. Got nothing to play for there in Carolina.
Speaker 1: They've allowed thirty one points a game half the Panthers
Speaker 1: during this six game losing streak. They're now minus fourteen
Speaker 1: and turnover differential during their current six game losing streak.
Speaker 1: I'll say, uh, you know, site unseen on the Colts.
Speaker 1: I'll say Colts minus six. Yeah again, I kind of
Speaker 1: like your number a little better at six and a half.
Speaker 1: Looking pretty much uniformly six and a half, I think
Speaker 1: I like the six better, but I'm open six and
Speaker 1: a half in Carolina. Oh my god, they did just
Speaker 1: enough to land on the number. That was another disastrous
Speaker 1: result for us yesterday because, uh, you know, Seattle minus
Speaker 1: the six, we went to six and a half. We've
Speaker 1: got some pluts money back and forth. Not a good
Speaker 1: number four, Not a good result at all. Christian mccather win,
Speaker 1: you have a hundred and seventy five yards total between
Speaker 1: the rushing and receiving. Don't kill this kid, for god jeezus,
Speaker 1: he's gonna lay him. It's amazing. They haven't set They're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep playing him every down, keep playing them,
Speaker 1: keep using them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's three down
Speaker 1: right back. Um. By the way, one than I almost
Speaker 1: never write down the defensive status. Keep we had seventeen
Speaker 1: tackles yesterday and geez I didn't see this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: quite a bit. And I'm six and a half on that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: like my number better. But again, we haven't seen the Colts,
Speaker 1: so much could change if something bad happened to Seattle
Speaker 1: lad that game against Carolina, And this was one of
Speaker 1: these games you try to watch as much of every
Speaker 1: game as you can, but I had no shition on
Speaker 1: that game. So it was one of these games that
Speaker 1: got lost in the shuffle for me. But Seattle lad
Speaker 1: that game thirty to ten with seven twenty eight left
Speaker 1: in the game yesterday and Carolina scores two garbage touchdowns
Speaker 1: put it right on the number thirty four. Seattle didn't
Speaker 1: have We'll get to Seattle, but they didn't have Ziggyanza.
Speaker 1: They didn't have Jadeveon Clowney, Chaquelle Griffin wasn't in there.
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson didn't play. Quandre Diggs left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner in the fourth, both at ankle injuries. Bi
Speaker 1: Carroll said that Digg's injury might be worse. Uh. Clownie
Speaker 1: didn't make the trip to Carolina after becoming ill on Friday.
Speaker 1: But basically they didn't have all those players still rolled
Speaker 1: the Panthers. So the Panthers fall into this. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: they're not terrible at football, but we've seen the Redskins
Speaker 1: run all over them and then we see them fall,
Speaker 1: you know, behind by twenty against the depleted Seattle team.
Speaker 1: So just playing out the string. Of course after firing
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera will come back whole bunch more games to
Speaker 1: get to we'll talk about this ridiculous coin flip thing
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Uh set up the playoffs situation? Were you?
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Speaker 1: of year. Thanks for joining us. Chris Andrews is here
Speaker 1: as well my mish book Chrisye whole bunch more games
Speaker 1: to get to here week sixteen. Um, what's next? One
Speaker 1: more morning game? Okay? The Ravens at the Browns or
Speaker 1: is in Pittsburgh. We'd like to say that the Purple
Speaker 1: Browns at the Browns, the Purple Browns and the Browns
Speaker 1: art model stealing them uh or I should say, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Art O'Dell is stealing them from Cleveland taken to Baltimore
Speaker 1: Baltimore twelve and two. They got extra rest here. They
Speaker 1: played the Thursday night gave against the Jets, and Cleveland
Speaker 1: yesterday loses to the Arizona Cardinals. They lose thirty eight
Speaker 1: to twenty four. What has happened to Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns um six and eight? By the way,
Speaker 1: my Browns don't make the playoffs. Plus one fifty five
Speaker 1: ticket over there at Billy Hill, two weeks away from cashing. Cleveland,
Speaker 1: by the way, mathematically still alive. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this. Mathematically, Uh, they gotta win their final
Speaker 1: two games versus the Ravens and the Bengals. They'd have
Speaker 1: to finish eight and eight, and then the Titans and
Speaker 1: the Steelers would have to lose their last two games
Speaker 1: to each finish eight and eight. By the way, Also,
Speaker 1: the Colts would have to lose one of their final three.
Speaker 1: But if all those things happen, Cleveland Browns are in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So good luck Cleveland Browns. UM. By the way.
Speaker 1: At the end of this game yesterday, Freddie Kitchens and
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry heated verbal exchange on the sideline during the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I don't know if he saw it. Um,
Speaker 1: So that's good. Mayfield thirty forty three and defeat two
Speaker 1: forty seven, two touchdowns, one pick and a sack. Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb seventeen for one. Seven doesn't matter they lose. I'll
Speaker 1: say Baltimore minus eight on the road, because I think
Speaker 1: if this game was in Baltimore, they would be two
Speaker 1: touchdown favorites. I'll say minus eight on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a little light, Joe. It's ten, um ten to
Speaker 1: see one. I see one nine and a half. I
Speaker 1: see m eleven and a half with a bunch of
Speaker 1: juice on the dog. I mad tens. Okay, I beat
Speaker 1: that either. Um. You know, uh, listen to Paul Fine
Speaker 1: Bob this week last week and he said Freddie Kittens.
Speaker 1: He says, you know, you know, Fine bamb is famous
Speaker 1: for covering Alabama football. He's followed Freddie Kittens from a
Speaker 1: time was a high school through college, even as a pro.
Speaker 1: He says Freddie Kitchens might be the worst NFL hire
Speaker 1: of all times as a head coach. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a bold statement for a guy that's known
Speaker 1: him since he was a teenager essentially. But there's nothing
Speaker 1: I'm seeing to prove Fine Bomb wrong. I could tell
Speaker 1: you that and talk about a coaching mismatch, and even
Speaker 1: at a quarterback mismatch. I hate to say because Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield he's just really regrets what happened well coaching. Yo,
Speaker 1: We've talked about it in this show. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things going through success of the team
Speaker 1: and particularly a quarterback, and everything that could go wrong
Speaker 1: with Baker I think has gone wrong. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: sell him out too quickly if he gets the proper
Speaker 1: coaching and some better structure around him. But Baltimore ten,
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's an okay number, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. I mean, you know, double bidgets
Speaker 1: on a row. That's that's hard to cover. It just
Speaker 1: is in the NFL. But I think that that's a
Speaker 1: decent betting number. Sir, Yeah, I don't. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't have a huge issue with it. You know how
Speaker 1: I was like super excited to bet Buffalo and Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: in the two games earlier this morning. And you would
Speaker 1: think here, based on the fact that I guess eight,
Speaker 1: that I would be and you said it was ted,
Speaker 1: I'd be rushing about the Browns. Yeah, I'm not rushing
Speaker 1: about the Browns like not. It's not the same reaction
Speaker 1: for me. I'll let that one slide. I think Ted
Speaker 1: is probably a better number than mine. Um. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns publicly saying that Freddie Kitchens will
Speaker 1: be back next year, that's what they're publicly saying right now.
Speaker 1: They support him, and uh oh b j Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: sort of not so quietly telling people he wants out.
Speaker 1: So there's that enjoy Cleveland. I told you, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I know a guy who knows a guy and told
Speaker 1: me that Giants management we're so happy to get rid
Speaker 1: of o b J. And he listens to our show
Speaker 1: and he texts me, he goes, I love when you
Speaker 1: say that. I think he has a pretty good source,
Speaker 1: you know. But you know, I don't know. That's just
Speaker 1: a bad situation there. And if they keep Freddie Kitchens
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna get better anytime soon. Yeah again again.
Speaker 1: Browns win their final two games. Titans and Steelers lose
Speaker 1: their final too. Colts lose one of their last three.
Speaker 1: If they're in still let me know when you catch
Speaker 1: that teck. Uh. I don't think you have to rip
Speaker 1: that thing up. I got let me tell you, I
Speaker 1: got Browns not to make the playoffs plus one five
Speaker 1: in the off season. Remember, William Hill put out a
Speaker 1: couple of props before they did even see the win
Speaker 1: tools And as you know better than anybody, the fever,
Speaker 1: the Brown's fever this past off season. Man with futures play,
Speaker 1: So yeah, not so much. All right, let's do another.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the top of the rotation
Speaker 1: because we are now in the afternoon games. All right,
Speaker 1: but these these next two games at the top of
Speaker 1: the rotation, but they're both one oh five games two
Speaker 1: peaches Detroit at Denver. Oh geez Detroit three ten and one.
Speaker 1: Um Matt Patricia speaking of coaches. Yeah, seven losses in
Speaker 1: a row now and ten of eleven for the Lions,
Speaker 1: who lost, as we mentioned, to Tampa excuse me to
Speaker 1: uh who the Lions lose to yesterday? Yeah, to Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: that's right, thirty eight to seventeen a game. They fell
Speaker 1: way behind, and they came back and then Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: rolled him. Lions didn't have a first down on offense
Speaker 1: in this game without the benefit of a penalty until
Speaker 1: midway through the second quarter. David bow sixty no no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks, two times, he was sacked. Amondola was his
Speaker 1: big tart yesterday eight for one oh two. Denver, by
Speaker 1: the way, officially eliminated for those of you who are
Speaker 1: still harboring hopes for the Denver Broncos. Uh, Denver loses
Speaker 1: to Kansas City and the snow in the snow Globe
Speaker 1: Yesterday twenty three to three. Drew Lack came back to Earth,
Speaker 1: came back down to Earth eighteen forty two oh eight,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked twice. Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: had more yards receiving at the start of the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter than the Broncos had total offensive yards one thirty
Speaker 1: nine at that point in the game. Broncos didn't force
Speaker 1: a punt until there was about six minutes left in
Speaker 1: the third quarters. They really got roled in that game.
Speaker 1: But it's the three ten and one Lions and the
Speaker 1: five and nine Broncos. Broncos certainly playing out the string. Uh,
Speaker 1: it seems with some pride. I will say the Broncos
Speaker 1: minus six and a half, is that too low? Or
Speaker 1: you're right on my first glimpse, my first glimpse of
Speaker 1: this game, I thought it was a little high. And
Speaker 1: then the more it looked into the teez and I mean,
Speaker 1: then I do think Denver's playing hard. And you know
Speaker 1: that there's some things I like about Denver, really very
Speaker 1: evident yesterday. But some things all I got Denver any
Speaker 1: thing I always respect, you know, the right players, let's say,
Speaker 1: and I had some sharp guys who've been on Denver yesterday. Um,
Speaker 1: and I had everybody in the world sharps and public
Speaker 1: bet against Detroit. I mean they were betting on Tampa, okay,
Speaker 1: but they were betting against Detroit. I really think that
Speaker 1: was much more of the story, and I have to
Speaker 1: take that into consideration. So the more I looked at it,
Speaker 1: I thought, I gotta be six and a half, maybe
Speaker 1: even seven. This Detroit team just looks just awful. And
Speaker 1: I think Denver just this still a tough home team.
Speaker 1: You've got to go up there, and especially late in
Speaker 1: the season, you might get some weather. Uh yeah, so
Speaker 1: I might open six and a half. But like I said,
Speaker 1: my first impression was it's too high. But the more
Speaker 1: I looked at it, I don't think it is. And
Speaker 1: if anything, I think maybe this game might creep up
Speaker 1: to seven. Remember Detroit started this season two oh one.
Speaker 1: Now they're now they're three, ten and one. Felika, Chris Felika,
Speaker 1: the Bear who we all know and love, A friend
Speaker 1: of show, friend of network. He made a bet before
Speaker 1: the season at fifteen to one. I want to say
Speaker 1: it was at Caesar's where it was the Lions will
Speaker 1: have the worst record of the National Football League and
Speaker 1: after three games we're like, okay, that's done. They're mathematically
Speaker 1: alive still for that, but the Bengals are not cooperating. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was just looking through my notes. Uh,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you know, multi year veteran had a worst
Speaker 1: QBR than the duck logic doc was not the worst.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Oh you know what, Chris, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up QBR because for those who have listened to
Speaker 1: guessing lines here, particularly this year, you have had a
Speaker 1: fascination with total QBR that you haven't had in previous years.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Paul Paul Carr, who was
Speaker 1: here in studio. Paul car who does our Premier League soccer,
Speaker 1: He was in studio with us this past Thursday. He
Speaker 1: when he was at ESPN Stats Information. When he was
Speaker 1: in ESPN uh stats department, he was one of the
Speaker 1: people that came up with total qb R. So he
Speaker 1: was he said, he listens to guessing lines every week
Speaker 1: and the next time he's on, he's going to go
Speaker 1: through how you know, what really influences what the total
Speaker 1: QBR number is. But even he conceded, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: remember who the one was last week that you and
Speaker 1: I were talking about, but some quarterback had like an
Speaker 1: eighteen totalq b R. And even that when he said, huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how about one makes sense,
Speaker 1: but it would be interesting to see because he says,
Speaker 1: the way the sausage is made, they've really accounted for
Speaker 1: as much as they can, so like garbage time stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They really try to get to, you know,
Speaker 1: the stats that matter when the game is still in
Speaker 1: the balance. So be interested to talk to him. I
Speaker 1: am fascinated with it, mostly because I don't understand that,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just one more way to look
Speaker 1: at the numbers. And uh, it was on with Ed
Speaker 1: saying this week this password yeah, uh yeah, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that afterwards. But really a brilliant, brilliant guy. And
Speaker 1: this is you know, we talked about it and has
Speaker 1: a doctor and I believe in mathematics. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: really have a small number of games that you're looking
Speaker 1: at that you know, hard to say statistically significant, so
Speaker 1: you have to break it down and finally you can
Speaker 1: to make things statistically significant so that maybe so as
Speaker 1: many things that you can look at that does uh,
Speaker 1: you know, evaluate teams and players you have to look at.
Speaker 1: And that's just one more that I do like to
Speaker 1: look at. Yeah, Stanford PhD for young ed thing. By
Speaker 1: the way, is that all? It's all? Yea, I have
Speaker 1: a couple of those. I would tell you what the
Speaker 1: PhDs in, but like it was like I don't want
Speaker 1: to bore you, like I don't understand half the words
Speaker 1: that are h. All right, let's do one more here
Speaker 1: before the break. Probably way call me after the show.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about it. All good,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good guy and brilliant. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: Raiders at the Chargers, Raiders at the Chargers. Well, as
Speaker 1: I mentioned just selfishly, I need the Raiders to lose out.
Speaker 1: That would help me tremendously in terms of season long stuff.
Speaker 1: We mentioned the whole thing with the Derek Carr slide yesterday. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Raiders absolutely got screwed on that play. Instead of
Speaker 1: the victory being sealed, I mean, keep it for those
Speaker 1: who missed it. When Derek Carr slides with two oh
Speaker 1: five left in the game to get a first down
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars only having one time out left, Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was putting up the oh. He was making the
Speaker 1: sign of you know over Oakland with his hands like
Speaker 1: this game was over. Um. And yes they did get screwed,
Speaker 1: but yes they also compounded their own problem by stopping
Speaker 1: the clock on an incomplete pass thereafter Car yesterday thirty
Speaker 1: six for two sixty seven, one touchdown. Note picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked four times with the Jaguars. Waller once again
Speaker 1: his favorite target, eight for one, two, three, three hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty seven games played at the Oakland, Alameda County Coliseum.
Speaker 1: When all is Sadden done, they played the Autumn Wind.
Speaker 1: The old John Facenda voice over the Autumn Wind is
Speaker 1: a Raider in the loudspeaker after the game. But then
Speaker 1: they all ended up booing Derek Carr. Everybody in the
Speaker 1: black hole booing Derek car because once again, what a
Speaker 1: fitting way to go out for the black Hole. At halftime,
Speaker 1: they were dominating the Jaguars to thirty seven to seventy five,
Speaker 1: advantage and yards seventeen to two and first downs at halftime,
Speaker 1: but only led sixteen to three because you know, all
Speaker 1: three of the red zone possessions ended with field goals.
Speaker 1: Third quarters this year, the Raiders have been outscored one
Speaker 1: oh one to twenty third quarters this year coming out
Speaker 1: of halftime. What's the opposite of making adjustments? One oh
Speaker 1: one to twenty. Outscored in the third quarter, by the way,
Speaker 1: is three to nothing yesterday. And then there's the Chargers.
Speaker 1: My goodness, I need the Charges to show up next week.
Speaker 1: It's not fun to have to have that happen. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Chargers have dropped four of their last five. Now
Speaker 1: they lose to the Vikings yesterday, and they lose to
Speaker 1: the Vikings by the score of thirty nine to ten.
Speaker 1: Vikings were one point closing favorites thirty nine to ten.
Speaker 1: For those who show up and see that result, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the Vikings destroyed them. Yeah they did.
Speaker 1: But right before halftime, the Vikings led twelve to ten,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers had a late drive. They were in
Speaker 1: field goal range, down two points. End of the first half,
Speaker 1: they are the twenty six yard line of the Vikings
Speaker 1: with twenty three seconds remaining second and two Rivers fumbles
Speaker 1: when he was sacked by Daniel Hunter. Austin Ekeler recovers
Speaker 1: it at the thirty eight. Then he tries to make
Speaker 1: a play and he fumbles, and if a Eddie uh
Speaker 1: enigmo he scoops up the loose ball fifty six yards
Speaker 1: of the house, and all of a sudden, it's Minnesota
Speaker 1: nineteen to ten, and that game was forever change. The
Speaker 1: Chargers seven turnovers in all, seven, the most since for
Speaker 1: that franchise there were minus six in the turnover difference
Speaker 1: department um. By the way, that touchdown at the end
Speaker 1: of the set at the end of the first half,
Speaker 1: part of thirty straight Vikings points after the Chargers had
Speaker 1: to ten to nine lead midway through the second quarter.
Speaker 1: The Chargers ensure themselves their first losing record in three
Speaker 1: seasons under the Great Anthony Lynn. But it's Oakland at
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They'll probably be more Oakland fans than Chargers fans.
Speaker 1: Last game for the Chargers at this interim stadium if
Speaker 1: you will, before they move into their Shangri La next year.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Charges, I just put it in the
Speaker 1: uh the no man's land. Between three and seven, I'll
Speaker 1: say Chargers minus five and a half. Wow, you're right on, Gilly. Yes. Well, look,
Speaker 1: I've already missed on several problems. You have it, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but this one I really had in my
Speaker 1: head yesterday after the Charge after the Oakland loss, and
Speaker 1: by the way, I had Oakland and like every come
Speaker 1: in two contests by myself and another contest with a
Speaker 1: bunch of partners, we had Oakland in everything and everything.
Speaker 1: I loved Oakland yesterday. So coming out of that game,
Speaker 1: I just thought, boy, this this is just gonna be
Speaker 1: such a huge emotional letdown from what happened yesterday. I
Speaker 1: wanted to bet against Oakland this week. Uh not because
Speaker 1: of the their play, but you know the result, and
Speaker 1: then what's gonna happen now, I look, they're playing the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I mean, but it's gonna happen. Chargers. You
Speaker 1: just never know what you're gonna get from week to week.
Speaker 1: What you can say about most of the league, but
Speaker 1: but the Chargers especially. Um, I didn't know what to
Speaker 1: make this. I guess five and a half's okay. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but you know, I think Oakland is
Speaker 1: gonna be on a huge emotional letdown. But it is
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and there'll be more Raider fans than Chargers
Speaker 1: in that stadium. And I mean, oh my, it is
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I don't really want to bet on Oakland,
Speaker 1: but I sure as heck don't want to bet on
Speaker 1: the Chargers either. This is gonna be a tough one,
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll open five and a half and
Speaker 1: see where it takes us. But man, that's uh. I
Speaker 1: think we're ruined a good spot for us, guilty by
Speaker 1: Oakland going to Sandy to Los Angeles here you no,
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with that coming. By the way,
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, someone on Twitter is like, oh,
Speaker 1: me and my buddies are convinced you gotta be peeking
Speaker 1: at these And I go, well, thank you, because I
Speaker 1: had the wrong team favored four times, but thank you
Speaker 1: for all the for all the other ones. It's so
Speaker 1: but it's like it's the equivalent of like when when
Speaker 1: a game lands on the number of people like, how
Speaker 1: do they know? How do they know? But they don't
Speaker 1: think about the other ten games that they botched by
Speaker 1: the same logic, I'm with you, and they give you
Speaker 1: a compliment. Oh, you guys are so and they killed
Speaker 1: on the number. By the way, that's right exercise. I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said about this game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I made the comparison because they're tied forever in
Speaker 1: history between Rivers and and Eli Manning. Who who of
Speaker 1: those two will go to the Hall of Fame? If
Speaker 1: not both will either who deserves it more than the other?
Speaker 1: How about Derek Carr and Philip Rivers in this game?
Speaker 1: Let me make a Philip Rivers Derek car comparison. Have
Speaker 1: either of these two guys improved over the last five years? Now?
Speaker 1: I know with Philip Rivers you're like, well, it's the
Speaker 1: end of his career, But honestly, do you get the
Speaker 1: sense that he does anything right anymore? When was the
Speaker 1: last deep ball you've seen Philip Rivers complete that wasn't
Speaker 1: like a throw it up in the air and pray
Speaker 1: that Mike Williams out jumps everybody for right, like I mean,
Speaker 1: just and by the way, Derek Carr needs a change
Speaker 1: of scenery because I think he's gotten two warped into
Speaker 1: this whole Raiders. Oh, we're such a great franchise mentality.
Speaker 1: You all haven't one crap ever in like a generation.
Speaker 1: So just stop it. Derek Carr needs to go play
Speaker 1: for another team and get different coaching and just get
Speaker 1: a different mindset where he can mature, because I don't
Speaker 1: see any improvement with him. I'd have to agree with
Speaker 1: all that. You know, first of all, Philip Rivers, he
Speaker 1: it's hard to shot putt at seven New York's on
Speaker 1: the field, That's true. It's gotta go to the chin
Speaker 1: shot putting. I don't know what you do. But Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: I see a lot of good things out of them guys.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know that it's uh that lack of consistency
Speaker 1: from you know, play to play game the game. But
Speaker 1: I think under the right circumstances, he could be a
Speaker 1: good quarterback. I really do. But change the scenery needed.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's their quarterback when they moved to Vegas.
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Speaker 1: two more games here in the afternoon. What's next? This
Speaker 1: is a good one. Cowboys at the Eagles. Cowboys at
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I'm desperately trying to look up what Ed's
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are. Cowboys are seven and seven. They beat the Rams.
Speaker 1: They roll the Rams yesterday by the final score of
Speaker 1: forty four to twenty one. They did so as one
Speaker 1: point closing dogs as a matter of fact, So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are seven and seven and the Eagles, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: not only beat the Redskins but miraculously cover against the Redskins.
Speaker 1: Now they're seven and seven. So here's the deal these are.
Speaker 1: This is obviously v game for the NFC East. But
Speaker 1: let me clarify. If the Cowboys win this game, they
Speaker 1: win the division. Done zo. If the Eagles win, they
Speaker 1: still have to win in week seventeen. Okay, So Cowboys
Speaker 1: yesterday they went over the Rams. That was their first
Speaker 1: win this season over a team that is currently possessing
Speaker 1: a winning record. So congratulations Dallas Cowboys. But they came
Speaker 1: out like gangbusters yesterday. They scored touchdowns on four of
Speaker 1: their first drives against the Rams. Dak two twelve two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Noe Picks wasn't sacked, Pollard twelve for one thirty one
Speaker 1: on the ground, and the touchdown Zee seventeen two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy five total yards of all offense
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys including scoring drives of ninety and nineties
Speaker 1: seven yards, two hundred and sixty three rushing yards, and
Speaker 1: Kai for Bath made all three of his vehic goals
Speaker 1: from fifty forty two and forty two and all five
Speaker 1: of his extra points in his Dallas debut. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know he kicked it out of bounds on the opening kickoff,
Speaker 1: but besides that, he didn't miss a field goal or
Speaker 1: an extra points. They were pumped um. But the weird
Speaker 1: thing about this game against the Rams, which we alluded
Speaker 1: to and we talked about how the Derek Carr slide
Speaker 1: somehow was not reviewable in Oakland, and I always say,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't review a play clock going to zero,
Speaker 1: which drives me crazy, literally the easiest thing to review.
Speaker 1: Apparently they don't review slides in bounds or out of
Speaker 1: bounds that they're called one way. But apparently a coin
Speaker 1: flip is from New York. So beginning of this game,
Speaker 1: this was such a weird thing. Dak Prescott says, we
Speaker 1: want to kick, and Walt Anderson, the referee, keeps coming
Speaker 1: back to him sort of I don't want to say
Speaker 1: baiting him, but almost like trying to convey to dock
Speaker 1: without saying I need a word from you. The word
Speaker 1: is defer, but I can't say that out loud. Let's
Speaker 1: see if you say you want to defer, and Dax
Speaker 1: says defer on the third pass. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if Walt Anderson didn't hear it, if he didn't care
Speaker 1: after the first couple of times. But anyway, we we
Speaker 1: for an entire half of football. We were under the
Speaker 1: impression that not only did the Cowboys kick off in
Speaker 1: the first half, but that they were gonna have to
Speaker 1: kick off again in the second half. And it's it's
Speaker 1: important because one for strategy of the team's right. When
Speaker 1: you're playing at the end of the first half, you
Speaker 1: want to know if you're getting the ball back in
Speaker 1: the second half. There's different ways you'd play the end
Speaker 1: of a half. Throughout the whole halftime, the Rams thought
Speaker 1: they were getting the ball. And by the way, as betters,
Speaker 1: for those of us who were contemplating second half bets,
Speaker 1: we were under the impression that the Rams were getting
Speaker 1: the ball first. That's actually a big deal with halftime wagers.
Speaker 1: In the end, New York Al river Ran and company
Speaker 1: get involved and they say we got the tape and
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott actually said the word defer, So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to get the ball in the second half.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing with all that Chrissy is, come on,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Like, can we have some
Speaker 1: common sense? There's never been a game in our entire lives.
Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but certainly none, none that I
Speaker 1: can remember where a team got the ball twice. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if a team's kicking off, they want the ball in
Speaker 1: the second half. And we when did when did it
Speaker 1: happen that we have to use the word defer? Literally?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yesterday was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard that before. I don't know, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Ben Folks, our friend from ESPN Quota, you know, put
Speaker 1: some out that's never as far as he knew, that
Speaker 1: never happened in the NFL. Ah ha. I remember one
Speaker 1: time there Haines back in the old afl oh jeez,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two. They were the Dallas Texans before they
Speaker 1: became the Kansas City Chiefs. They went into overtimes. God
Speaker 1: I forget who they were playing, but you know, there
Speaker 1: was like a vicious wind blowing, and Abner Haynes went
Speaker 1: out to call all the you know, the coin flip
Speaker 1: for overtime, and he said, well, we'll kick to the clock.
Speaker 1: He wanted to defend like the one direction rather than
Speaker 1: received the ball because there was a howling win and
Speaker 1: the ref said, no, you said kick, it's your choice,
Speaker 1: and you said kick. The other team got the ball
Speaker 1: and got to go to the direction they wanted to go,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, well that's uh, you know, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe I actually remember that, but I read stories
Speaker 1: about that, and uh and what do you know, the
Speaker 1: Dallas Texans wound up winning that game anyway to the
Speaker 1: playoff game in the old a FL. Maybe I'll tweet
Speaker 1: out that story because I have it. I sent it
Speaker 1: to Ben fouls. But there's a story about that. How
Speaker 1: really the ref kind of screwed that one up to
Speaker 1: by the way the way he phrased the question and
Speaker 1: everything else. But kind of interesting, I thought, So maybe
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really remember the game that well,
Speaker 1: just a little bit the good knowledge job. Well, like
Speaker 1: the Dallas Texans, that didn't end up mattering in this
Speaker 1: game either. The Dallas Cowboys rolled from twenty one. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then there's the Eagles, who we mentioned not only
Speaker 1: beat the Redskins, but cover uh of the money at
Speaker 1: Burgata was on the Eagles, so they were pumped. They
Speaker 1: scored four touchdowns did the Eagles in the final twenty
Speaker 1: one minutes of that game yesterday versus the Skins. Carson
Speaker 1: wentz Now in their last three games for the Eagles
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns in one pick um, So Carson wentz perhaps
Speaker 1: getting it together. So now you you were talking about
Speaker 1: how that Saturday game between the Texans and the U
Speaker 1: and the Bucks was a tough line to make, and
Speaker 1: I agree with you that was This was interesting for
Speaker 1: me to think about because here it is. For all
Speaker 1: the marbles I get at the Eagles still have to
Speaker 1: win in Week seventeen if they win, but for all
Speaker 1: intents and purposes, uh, this will go a long way
Speaker 1: towards the siding the NFC East. And if the Cowboys win,
Speaker 1: it will decide the NFC East. So what's the line
Speaker 1: at Philly? To me? The Cowboys just based on sheer
Speaker 1: talent because the Eagles are still riddled with injuries. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys on paper just a better football team period. So
Speaker 1: not only should the Eagles not be a de facto
Speaker 1: three point favorite, I don't even think it's a pick them.
Speaker 1: I make the Dallas Cowboys a three point favorite on
Speaker 1: the road, Well it's two and a half. Give me
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You like the Cowboy I like I like
Speaker 1: the other side. Um, you know again, it's one of those.
Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this. I'm not a big system guy. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think most of those trends and systems are a
Speaker 1: lot of crap, you know. But uh, the one that
Speaker 1: I follow is when you go from a home dog
Speaker 1: to a road favorite. Now, the Cowboys weren't much of
Speaker 1: a home dog, but they were definitely the home dog
Speaker 1: the Rams, and now you're going to a road favorite.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know, a few weeks ago you
Speaker 1: did a Kalpa saying that you know you had had
Speaker 1: went among the lead of a protential elite corprete. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those. Maybe I think you've
Speaker 1: got to retract that. And I think the kid is
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, you talked about the injuries. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's been a team. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are closed, but have had as
Speaker 1: many skill position players as hurt as the Eagles, And
Speaker 1: I think that's really compromised Carson Wentz, but he's really
Speaker 1: kind of come on the last couple of weeks. Now
Speaker 1: He's has, you know, a million times more talent than
Speaker 1: than Doc Hodges, but you know that the same thing.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any players around them, But you know it,
Speaker 1: the Eagles can they finally get healthy. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at the injury report. They have a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that are questionable, like Alilare is questionable. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson might be back versus Dallas. It looks like
Speaker 1: Alexeon Jeffrey's help. So they still have a lot of
Speaker 1: injury problems. But that being said, I really thought this
Speaker 1: game should be a pick them. I'll open two and
Speaker 1: a half because I see that I see two when
Speaker 1: half one place has a two and a half of
Speaker 1: the little Juice on the dog. Most of this June
Speaker 1: two and half with Juice on the favorite. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open two and a half. I think they'll probably
Speaker 1: bet me Dallas in this spot. But I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you I kind of like Philly. You know, first of all,
Speaker 1: rabid proud, it doesn't always play into it coaching mismatch.
Speaker 1: I think favors Philly I just I really think Philly
Speaker 1: goes in there and wins this game. I really do. Uh. Anyways,
Speaker 1: if you look at the talent level all of those
Speaker 1: things you say, I cannot dispute that Dallas absolutely should
Speaker 1: be much much better than Philadelphia at this point with
Speaker 1: all the injuries, etcetera, etcetera. But I you know, I
Speaker 1: think Philly wins this game. I'm putting my slash more
Speaker 1: mixed to Philly. I like them in this spot, alight.
Speaker 1: I think we're alo there, and you're right. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: based on talent, to me, it's all Cowboys. But lord
Speaker 1: knows it's Jason Garrett and that Cowboys coaching staff. So
Speaker 1: what could go wrong? Talk about teams that are untrustworthy
Speaker 1: from week to week? Uh? For the NFC East, crown
Speaker 1: um almost. So you know, if Cowboys win, Yes, if
Speaker 1: the Phillies excuse me of Philly wins, they still gotta
Speaker 1: win a week seventeen to capture the NFC East. Let's
Speaker 1: do one more here. Last afternoon game Arizona at Seattle,
Speaker 1: Arizona snapping their losing streak at six. They beat the Browns.
Speaker 1: We talked about that. Kyler Murray ninety five for two nineteen.
Speaker 1: I still say he should be the offensive rookie of
Speaker 1: the year. Eight carries for fifty six drake Kenyan Drake,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. He just basically fell in the end zone
Speaker 1: four times. They were all short, a little running, a
Speaker 1: little rushing touchdown, twenty carries a hundred thirty seven yards.
Speaker 1: By the way, he had lost nine straight as a
Speaker 1: member of the Dolphins, and then he lost five more
Speaker 1: after coming to the Cardinals, so he had lost personally
Speaker 1: fourteen straight football games until yesterday. But the Cardinals had
Speaker 1: four forty five total yards. They had two ninety nine
Speaker 1: in the first half, including a hundred forty five on
Speaker 1: the ground. So good for the Cardinals there four nine
Speaker 1: and one Seattle's eleven and three. They clinched a play
Speaker 1: off berth, by the way, their seventh playoff berth in
Speaker 1: eight seven eight seasons, seventh time in eight seasons for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They will clinch the NFC West with wins
Speaker 1: in their final two games. Um, but of course that
Speaker 1: last games against the Niners, so easier said than done.
Speaker 1: It's their tenth win this season. Yesterday was against the
Speaker 1: Panthers by eight points or fewer, so ten of their
Speaker 1: eleven wins have been one score victories. Russell Wilson was
Speaker 1: twenty of twenty six for two eight six, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. He's awesome were it not for Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: He's your m v P. Chris Carson twenty four carries
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty three yards two touchdowns. Lockett was Wilson's
Speaker 1: big target eight for one twenty touchdown. But as I said,
Speaker 1: Seattle led thirty to ten with seven twenty eight left
Speaker 1: two garbage touchdowns by the Panthers. As I mentioned, Ziggy Answage,
Speaker 1: Davian Clowney killed Griffin, Luke Wilson, Quandrie Diggs left in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. Uh Bobby Wagner left in the fourth
Speaker 1: with an ankle injury. None of those guys, Uh Diggs
Speaker 1: and Wagner partial. But all those guys I mentioned before
Speaker 1: and none of them were there. So the the Seahawks
Speaker 1: were able to beat the Panthers with a depleted cast.
Speaker 1: If you will, Seattle's at home against Arizona, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be more than a touchdown. I'll say, Seattle, mind a
Speaker 1: seven and a half. You know, I kind of like
Speaker 1: your number. Better deal, it's nine and a half. Idn't
Speaker 1: leave some ten with juice on the dog. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Arizona is a very
Speaker 1: live dog in this spot covered numbers, Seattle probably gets
Speaker 1: the dough as far as getting to win, but I
Speaker 1: think Arizona gets the dough for the point spread. I
Speaker 1: think not and a half just too high here. In
Speaker 1: ft of fact that I put a mark next to Arizona,
Speaker 1: I kind of like them plus the point. I am
Speaker 1: an open nine and a half though uh not in
Speaker 1: half a not the nine the key number, but it
Speaker 1: is for teaser betters, and I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of people will have Seattle and teasers. I don't blame them,
Speaker 1: but if you want to go get under three, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get three year under. I'm gonna make you pay
Speaker 1: for it. So that's what I'm anna open nine and
Speaker 1: a half. Otherwise I would probably open nine because I
Speaker 1: do kind of like the dog a little bit in
Speaker 1: this spot. I'm looking ahead a little bit to teasers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you there, Caroline. You give you give
Speaker 1: Arizona too many points to work with. Kyler Murray is
Speaker 1: not fun to bet against with all that point, certainly
Speaker 1: with all those points to work with for sure, So
Speaker 1: I'm with you Arizona and nothing there. Nine and a
Speaker 1: half is where Chris is opening that I had seven
Speaker 1: and a half. We'll come back. We'll do the primetime
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Speaker 1: My dad's my dad's accent. That should be fun. Jesus
Speaker 1: can I escape? We'll do that next time. Chrissie, let's
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Speaker 1: Kansas City at Chicago. Kansas City, of course, already a
Speaker 1: f C West champs, still on the outside looking in
Speaker 1: as far as buys though um in the a f
Speaker 1: C not a number one or two seed. Currently, they
Speaker 1: need to win out and the Patriots to drop one
Speaker 1: of their final two games to move ahead of them
Speaker 1: in the playoff pecking order. Mahomes yesterday, again in the snow,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs look like they were just having a ball
Speaker 1: against the Broncos thirty four yesterday, two touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: uh three time sack three forty yards passing Kelsey eleven
Speaker 1: for one forty two Tyreeke five for sixty seven, two
Speaker 1: touchdowns total yard. Chiefs have held four straight opponents to
Speaker 1: twenty points or fewer, and two of their past three
Speaker 1: to ten points are fewer. Snow probably helped, but still
Speaker 1: Chief's defense not what it's made out to be, perhaps
Speaker 1: by conventional wisdom. Chicago, for those of you who were
Speaker 1: still harboring hopes that the Bears would make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they were eliminated from playoff contention yesterday with
Speaker 1: their loss to the Packers. But we talk about all
Speaker 1: these games like having Plinko endings. They lose to the
Speaker 1: Packers thirteen, they get into this, uh, into the lateral
Speaker 1: phase of the game. They were the Packers were leading
Speaker 1: by eight points with just one second remaining. Tremont Williams
Speaker 1: falls on Jasper horsteds fumble of the two yard line
Speaker 1: to end Green Bay's thirteen victory. But literally, the Bears
Speaker 1: were one lateral away to Alan Robinson from taking that
Speaker 1: to the house, and then they would have had a
Speaker 1: two point conversion to try to tie it. They that
Speaker 1: lateral was there for them, they just didn't do it
Speaker 1: in time, and so the Packers end up winning it.
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur uh Green Bay coach quote. I think I
Speaker 1: blacked out there for a second when watching that. Uh
Speaker 1: Mr Bisky fifty three for three thirty four yards of
Speaker 1: offense and defeat. The Bears were minus three in turnovers.
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Minus three three turnovers
Speaker 1: for the Bears, none for the Packers, Khalil Mack no sacks,
Speaker 1: one tackle. Where has he gone three points on their
Speaker 1: first a drive yesterday? For the Bears. Uh, it's at Chicago,
Speaker 1: you said, I'll say Kansas City minus four and a half.
Speaker 1: It's five. Pretty solid. I see one five and a half.
Speaker 1: I see one four and a half. Other than that,
Speaker 1: it's a blanket five. I'm gonna open five. Um, kind
Speaker 1: of like the dog a little bit here, uh after
Speaker 1: you know, pull James Salinas kind of James likes to
Speaker 1: read all weeks and see, you know, how practice goes
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: be important for a game like this. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I hate to play amateur psychologists, although James seems to
Speaker 1: do it pretty well. Pretty well, Yeah, I'll see well,
Speaker 1: but I think I think that's gonna be important, trying
Speaker 1: to follow what's going on in the in these two
Speaker 1: franchises and how they practice and everything this week. But
Speaker 1: I kind of favored the dog. I'm not gonna put
Speaker 1: an next next to them right now, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I am an open five. I think that's okay, but
Speaker 1: I would sort of be looking about the dog in
Speaker 1: this spot and always check the weather this time of year.
Speaker 1: They were not expecting that kind of snow in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: but it came sooner than they expected Monday night. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Green Bay at Minnesota, Green
Speaker 1: Bay eleven and three. What a gaudy record for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Anyone scared of them in the postseason? Anybody? Green Bill
Speaker 1: eleven and three, Minnesota now ten and four. Most wins
Speaker 1: ever for Kirk Cousins in any year, eclipses the nine
Speaker 1: that he had with the Skins. Green Bay clinches a
Speaker 1: playoff berth with that win against the Bears. Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: first coach ever to reach the playoffs in his first
Speaker 1: season with the Packers. Not Lombardi, not Forest Greg not
Speaker 1: Bart Star, Matt Lafleur, not Mike McCarthy. Rogers sixteen of
Speaker 1: thirty three, two oh three, one touchdown note picks. They
Speaker 1: were plus three in turnovers, as I mentioned against the
Speaker 1: Bears Minnesota. With that win over the Chargers, they've won
Speaker 1: four of their last five. They'll clinch a playoff berth
Speaker 1: with a win in either of their last two games,
Speaker 1: so they've got a two game lead over the Rams
Speaker 1: for the final Wild card position, so they they get
Speaker 1: a playoff birth. With a win in either of their
Speaker 1: last two games, they can still win the NFC North.
Speaker 1: So this game obviously with huge implications for that. But
Speaker 1: the Vikings, who are one game behind the Packers in
Speaker 1: the NFC North, they can win the division with two
Speaker 1: wins and then a green Bay loss to Detroit in
Speaker 1: week seventeen. That's how the Vikings could still win the
Speaker 1: division um ten plus wins for the third time in
Speaker 1: six seasons under Mike Zimmer Cousins nineteen two or seven. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. Dalvin Cook did leave the game
Speaker 1: in the third quarter with the shoulder injury, and as
Speaker 1: we mentioned, the Chargers uh just given the ball left
Speaker 1: and right to the Vikings. Yesterday the Vikings were plus
Speaker 1: six turnovers as the charge is forked it over seven times.
Speaker 1: I'll say Minnesota buy a little. I'll say a tick
Speaker 1: more than a field. I'll say Minnesota by three and
Speaker 1: a half. Monday night, it's four. I even see a
Speaker 1: four and a half. You know, Gil, I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: the four because I don't want to mess with this
Speaker 1: too much. But Dalton Cook is questionable. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean a pretty key guy obviously, But I think
Speaker 1: you were right when you said nobody's really afraid of
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And I think we have to come to
Speaker 1: the acceptance that Rogers is really just an average quarterback
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, just look at all his numbers,
Speaker 1: including estername. I mean, he's just not all that good anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look again, qb R the lesson average
Speaker 1: passer rating seventy eight point two yards per attempt, which
Speaker 1: I always think there's a big one six point two
Speaker 1: yards per ten. That's not very good, you know, but
Speaker 1: you have to give him credit. They have won a
Speaker 1: lot of football games. Um, I think this is a
Speaker 1: little high. I kind of like your number better, I
Speaker 1: am than open four because here a four and a
Speaker 1: half out there. Um, but I kind of like the
Speaker 1: dog in this spot, especially if there's no Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be a close, close game,
Speaker 1: and four would be a take for me. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that right now. I've got too many games.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Green Days one never a
Speaker 1: good side, right Rogers. Yeah, Rogers looks joyless, maybe even Ordinery.
Speaker 1: Just there's nothing about him that looks like he's having
Speaker 1: foot out there, even though they're eleven and three packers
Speaker 1: right now at top the NFC North. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll recap what we like more than most, wrapping up
Speaker 1: guessing lines for week sixteen. Right here on the numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa the Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: a numbers game with Jill Alexander Parlays recounting is gambling
Speaker 1: weekend to us. He called it a quote to gambling
Speaker 1: travesty unquote. Come on, Parlay, stop betting the President's Cup.
Speaker 1: For God's sakes, Presidents, what else did you bet? I
Speaker 1: had the right side, played poker to your probably the poker.
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you gonna do? I I
Speaker 1: flopped three threes and got beat by a pocket ace,
Speaker 1: getting an ass on the river? What are you gonna do? Mr?
Speaker 1: And Mrs Parlay. I'll take care of it. I promise
Speaker 1: I'll take care of it. You have my word, all right,
Speaker 1: So here's let's go around. Let's go around the horn
Speaker 1: hair here where recap? I like Buffalo on Saturday. I
Speaker 1: think they're getting way too many points against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Give me the Bills. I like Pittsburgh. Uh, it's only
Speaker 1: three against the Jets. Give me the Steelers. I like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if it's only two and a half at Philly,
Speaker 1: and I kind of lean Arizona. I'm with Christy on Seattle. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: what do you like? Too many games? I like Buffalo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like your Washington redskin. I know, I like my
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. You and I are gonna butt heads. I
Speaker 1: like the Eagles. I like Arizona. I like Green Day.
Speaker 1: So we're together on Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Arizona and bow
Speaker 1: on Dallas and Philly. Interesting Parley. The only one that
Speaker 1: stands out is Green Bay. If Cook can't go that,
Speaker 1: that seems too steep to me. Yeah, I had three
Speaker 1: and a half. Would it end up being four? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. Dalvin Cook didn't look good when he when
Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines yesterday, although he was you know,
Speaker 1: his face looked okay, looked like he was smiling a
Speaker 1: little bit. The injury certainly didn't look good. So we'll see,
Speaker 1: obviously a game with implications on both sides. Chris, I'll
Speaker 1: make that phone call to you so we can talk
Speaker 1: about ed Fang and we can talk about book politics.
Speaker 1: How about that? Okay, alright, well, Chris Chris Andrews, who
Speaker 1: you can follow on Twitter, by the way, and Andrew's
Speaker 1: Sports always making a nice pithy comments. Thank you, Chrissy,
Speaker 1: always appreciate it. Man, Oh my pleasure, my pleasure, the man.
Speaker 1: So happy to have him here each and every Monday.
Speaker 1: We'll do it again week seventeen. By the way, even
Speaker 1: though the lines could be for Cota, We'll still do
Speaker 1: it next week right here on the numbers game at Visa.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Good luck with Monday night football
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