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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what that is. It's the

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Speaker 2: So for new listeners that don't know, that time thing

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. We actually had recorded a full

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Speaker 1: a capital O. Yeah, we're going to be put in

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Speaker 1: director jail, which is the term I recently learned from

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Speaker 2: I have not heard of this, but I think as

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Speaker 2: well who died and made me think I'd say thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: That's the eternal question is like, would you rather have

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Speaker 2: I'm going with series of mediocre forgettable works.

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Speaker 1: And guess what saying because I need to pay my rent.

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Speaker 2: And I also like don't want like again, I cannot

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Speaker 2: This is a great Okay, Okay, this is a great question.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would feel bad.

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Speaker 1: I think I would feel bad. Yeah, And it would

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Speaker 1: Think I mean, Madam Webb is an extreme example because

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Speaker 1: And I think ultimately, if you're talking to someone, unless

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Speaker 1: So, I guess the answer then would be, if you

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Speaker 1: Where are the movies about normal people anymore?

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Speaker 2: Whether a genius sentence? Yes, literally, where are they? I

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Speaker 1: So you have to be Madam Webb to get a

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Speaker 1: You had complex feelings about the Iraq War. Join the club,

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Speaker 2: And thank god. You know, normal people in France are celebrated.

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Speaker 1: Normal people in France are the president. Do you know?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the president of France is? Some woman?

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Speaker 2: You know what she had for lunch today.

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Speaker 2: About talking to her. I had a preconceived notion of her.

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Speaker 2: Hannahpilchis okay, please welcome to the podcast. Hannah Pilkiss, Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 3: Intellectually? Tax deductible is like I think things you consume

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Speaker 3: Are you having a change of heart?

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Speaker 1: So my thing with Lily Collins is I agree, obviously

442
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Speaker 1: I agree with you on a literal level that she's

443
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Speaker 1: not earning it. But at this point in my Emily

444
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Speaker 1: and Paris life, I'm so proud of her for just

445
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Speaker 1: knowing her lines. Like I'm watching it and I'm like

446
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, she finished that sentence and then she

447
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: made a little face more than I could go.

448
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Speaker 4: I just can't fathom that at the end of season two,

449
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: she still speaks no French.

450
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm like, in what world?

451
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Speaker 4: I feel like it's your responsibility as an expat to

452
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Speaker 4: learn a little.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, but don't you think the real

454
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Speaker 1: Emily in the real world would also not know French

455
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Speaker 1: at this point?

456
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Speaker 3: Absolutely? No, it's faithful to the truth exists. I don't

457
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 3: like that truth, you know, totally, totally, So that's my person,

458
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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, George, do you have a person We've all

460
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Speaker 2: pitched a person. We're all going down with me. Yeah.

461
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Speaker 5: I was gonna work with her next week, and I said, well,

462
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 5: we both have gigs with Lily Collins and Maya Hawk

463
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Speaker 5: next week and we're fucking blowing it for ourselves.

464
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Speaker 2: So who are you good?

465
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 3: Because I care about this pod more than anything of

466
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Speaker 3: the goddamn world.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, says mine is I'm worried about saying mine.

468
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's me.

469
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Speaker 1: It's La based comedian and actor, and I just have

470
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: never really gotten what her whole deal is.

471
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Shoved down my throat like she's literally on my podcast.

472
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Speaker 3: You get it. You're tall with you're low ass boys.

473
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Speaker 1: I'm like, having a low voice is not a personality. No, Mine, unfortunately,

474
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: is the the singer songwriter Maggie Rogers.

475
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Speaker 2: Really well, that sucks because I have a track with

476
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Speaker 2: her coming out next week. I get it's called Live

477
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Speaker 2: Like You Do.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like that is featuring it.

479
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Speaker 2: I heard yeah.

480
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Speaker 3: Live Me Like You Do.

481
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Speaker 1: A new album The Ocean.

482
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Speaker 2: Wait, but I go into a little bit. She's not

483
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Speaker 2: running it.

484
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Speaker 1: I think she is a perfectly capable and talented singer.

485
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Speaker 1: I do. I am a little confused, and I have

486
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Speaker 1: not to be clear, I have not listened to her

487
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: new album. She also seems like a lovely person.

488
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Speaker 3: She's my best friend.

489
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Speaker 1: And I actually feel so bad that all of us

490
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: are mentioning women when I'm like, most men are not

491
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Speaker 1: earning it, and yet here we are bringing down.

492
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, George, you're so three powerful.

493
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Speaker 1: Powerful white women in our industry.

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

495
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Speaker 1: So, but here's my challenge to everyone out there. Find

496
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Speaker 1: a man who is not earning it.

497
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Speaker 3: Okay, I things with Maggie Rogers because both of us kind.

498
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Speaker 1: Of No, there's no neo. I'm literally just mean. She

499
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Speaker 1: was discovered by Farrell at n y U and then I.

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Speaker 3: Love that video.

501
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: That's such a good video.

502
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: Watched that for inspiration.

503
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Speaker 2: No, I actually, unfortunately, we I think both of us

504
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: kind of disagree with you, and we kind of stand her.

505
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Speaker 1: And I love that and I think that's necessary. And

506
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Speaker 1: I think just like I disagreed about Emily and Paris,

507
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Speaker 1: who I think is sort.

508
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Speaker 2: Of don't you supported the thought? Well?

509
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Speaker 1: Okay, but here I guess my question is who would

510
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Speaker 1: you rather play Emily in Paris? Because to me it's

511
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: actually a perfect perfect it's perfect casting.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I think my main she was

513
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Speaker 2: I don't think Emily and Press should exist.

514
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Speaker 4: That's and you know what, maybe I'm more targeting that

515
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 4: that is a thing, like a massively popular phenomenon, more

516
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: so than the person themselves. Okay, they're simply showing up

517
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Speaker 4: yeah on their Apple box's action cut checking the gate.

518
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Speaker 1: Okay, So see my thing. And this is something I've

519
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of been working through for the past few years.

520
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Speaker 1: I think I maybe mentioned is the reason I am

521
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Speaker 1: pro Emily in Paris but anti most prestige TV is

522
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: that I'm like, we need to move towards a place

523
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: where there's lowbrow and highbrow and nothing in between, because

524
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: we are rotting our brains with these fake prestigee shows

525
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: that pretend to be better than they actually are. And

526
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I would rather spend ten hours of my

527
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: life watching Emily in Paris than invest in another streaming

528
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: detective show where like it sort of asks more questions

529
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Speaker 1: than it answers. And there's like one scene when someone

530
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: cries and it makes some like heavy handed point about

531
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Speaker 1: you know, the American dream.

532
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Speaker 4: I call it the biopic effect where I'm like fishing,

533
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 4: You're fishing for an award and I can see right

534
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: through your bullshit. Yes, that's like someone on a first date,

535
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: like leading with like the degrees they have, Like I

536
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: don't know, it just is a little too it's smart me.

537
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Speaker 1: I agree. Do you know who isn't leading with her degrees?

538
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Emily in Paris She's saying, I barely graduated middle school

539
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: and I will and I'm reclaiming my.

540
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Speaker 2: Time well as someone who, unfortunately and despite all the odds,

541
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: stands uh feud Capoti versus the Swan. Oh. Yes, I

542
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Speaker 2: do have to argue for mid TV that's pretending it's prestige. Okay,

543
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: all right, in favor of it. I'm kind of in

544
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Speaker 2: favor of it.

545
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Speaker 3: Okay, But let me riddle me this. Do you remember

546
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Speaker 3: the Nicole Kidman show where she lives in the biggest

547
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: apartment in New York City with a very long coat.

548
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Speaker 1: Yes, and by the way, I love I love that show.

549
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: Wait we did?

550
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Speaker 4: It was because I feel like I knew the answer

551
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: from episode one and we talked about how our time

552
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: is sacred and when I waste it, I'm.

553
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Speaker 3: You know what, I always goddamn waste it. You better

554
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Speaker 3: believe I'm pissed.

555
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Speaker 1: You know what I think was happy with me is

556
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to you know, I'm glad you called

557
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: me out on this. I think you are right that

558
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: it's bad and you're welcome. And I think what I

559
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: was trying to do is I was trying to, you know,

560
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: after the fact, emotionally deduct it because I was like, well,

561
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: there's no way I can accept there's no way I

562
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Speaker 1: can accept that I wasted that time. So I'm going

563
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: to go back and I'm going to say that wig

564
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: was so funny that I'm glad I watched for that,

565
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: and the coat was so long that that had cultural

566
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: value in it of itself. And that's true, you know

567
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

568
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Speaker 4: It almost became a parody of itself in that way,

569
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Speaker 4: and I can't believe that I'll never know people are

570
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: wearing wigs on SNL, and that from moment one frame

571
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Speaker 4: one of that show, I knew she was right away.

572
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Speaker 1: It's actually crazy that SNL is better at wigs than

573
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Speaker 1: all prestige.

574
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Speaker 3: Television anyone ever.

575
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know my theory on that, I think.

576
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: It's their real hair.

577
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: No, my big theory is that they do bad wigs

578
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: on purpose so that people talk about the show. Really,

579
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: that's my big conspiracy. And I'm fully.

580
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: You think someone's willing to like be shit on who

581
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: did that job for market for.

582
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: Pr PR It's like how headlines are purposefully like to

583
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: make you enraged.

584
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: So you think Maistro did that nose on purpose.

585
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Literally it got the people talking, It's true, Yeah.

586
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: But it didn't get him the oscar. I really think so.

587
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I used to think this, and I feel like the

588
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: more I meet people in entertainment and in Hollywood, the

589
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: more I'm like, oh, they are just all earnestly doing

590
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: their best.

591
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. You know. It's like how it's easy

592
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: to believe government conspiracy exactly. So you meet people that

593
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 2: work in government and you're like, oh, you're like dumb.

594
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: I think about like someone like Madonna, where you know,

595
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 4: she has so many yes people around her, and I

596
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: think that happens so much in the industry, where everyone

597
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: like it's a group mentality where they're like, yeah, yeah,

598
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: this is perfect, and then you zoom out and realize like, yeah,

599
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: you probably should have run it by people that aren't

600
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Speaker 4: all inside.

601
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Speaker 2: Yes.

602
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone who works in politics about

603
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Speaker 1: the Biden campaign, and I was like, regardless of this,

604
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: who is that? Yeah, Nancy Pelosi? Do you guys know?

605
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh, we.

606
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: Went to grad school together. She was almost kicked out actually,

607
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: but then she got a job in DC. Oh that's

608
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: cool there ever since?

609
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wrote that that's just such a great lesson.

610
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she such an important lesson.

611
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Important that she wrote my recommendation letter for iHeart when

612
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: we got acquired. Oh yeah, she's really helpful and I

613
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: agree with all her politics.

614
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: So but I was that on record, Yeah, printed New

615
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: York Times straight to the time.

616
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: But I was like trying to figure out, like, how

617
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: is it that Biden is fucking it up so bad

618
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: right now? And I was like so desperate for some

619
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: left of center theory or something, and my friend was like, no,

620
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: it's just he's surrounded by people that don't know any better.

621
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: And that's how it is.

622
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: And he's one hundred and sixteen.

623
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you've tried to have like

624
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: a really deep conversation with a grandparent like.

625
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: I actually have never even tried. I've said, I have

626
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: one precious life, and I'm not gonna try to have

627
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: a deep conversation with your old ass.

628
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: And send that to the print to the New York

629
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: Kazocking time, Sam Famous.

630
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: My Grandma's literally like talk to me, and I'm like, no.

631
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: No, stop being selfish.

632
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: One.

633
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: You already lived your life. I have to go live mine.

634
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: I need to talk to my peers, and you aren't

635
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: anywhere close to that.

636
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: Talk to Joe Biden, go fucking work.

637
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: For the Biden campaign and bucking party with Pelosi because

638
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: you're a booking old bitch loves to party. That's why

639
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: she got kicked. I almost got ki done in grad school,

640
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: but thank god she got the job in DC.

641
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: So many four LOCOSSI loved afore low.

642
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: And see this is why we can't there's no communication

643
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: in this country. You know, it's because people do not

644
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: intergeneration more. We need there needs to be more intergenerational

645
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: exchange of ideas. Otherwise we get is you know, Joe

646
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Biden and then US podcasting.

647
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: There's only two camps.

648
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: There's only two camps. Everyone under you know forty is

649
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: podcasting and everyone over forty is sending billions of dollars

650
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: in military aid to Israel.

651
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: And on Facebook all day long.

652
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my god. Should we do our first segment?

653
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I think it's actually time for that.

654
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Yay, yay, Hannah. Our first segment is called Straight Shooters,

655
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: and in this segment, we're going to ask you a

656
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: series of rapid fire questions. It's basically this thing or

657
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: this other thing to gauge your familiarity with and complicity

658
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: in straight culture.

659
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: Great.

660
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: The only rule is you can't ask any follow up

661
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: questions or we will cut your mic and make you

662
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: go work for the Biden campaign. Fine, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to book a flight from here midtown, New

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Speaker 1: York City, get there to LA and scare you. I'm

665
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Speaker 1: going to hide in your closet and when you get home,

666
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out and I'm gonna scare You're gonna give.

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00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Me the super spookes.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm fine if you just book me a

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Speaker 4: flight from burban I just asked them, it's not Eliot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, George, you kick us off?

671
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: Actually, Hannah hands labyrinth or Franz Ferdinand hands labyrinth.

672
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: Hmm okay Hannah saying gide up, cowboy, or saying, Hey,

673
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: what's up? I'm Troy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? I'm Troy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, a sectional couch or that retinal ouch.

677
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: That retinal ouch, okay, being on a first name basis,

678
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: or being on trading spaces.

679
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: Being on trading spaces yeah without a single.

680
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Down, tipping twenty five percent, or gripping onto an airborne

681
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Clark Kent.

682
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Gripping onto a nearborn Clark Kent sexy, Respecting your elders

683
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: or expecting the welders to come at any minute.

684
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: Respecting your elder Sam.

685
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Rooting for the home rooting for the home team, or

686
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: commuting while listening to teenage dream.

687
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: Commuting while listening to teenage dreams. Sports can rotten.

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Speaker 2: Hell, Okay, this is a really good one. Actually, shiver

689
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: me timbers, or shiver your timbers.

690
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Shiver me timbers.

691
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: Wow, wow this what do you feel like you sort

692
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Speaker 4: of learned from my responses?

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Speaker 1: So I rain each guest on a scale of zero

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00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: to one thousand doves. Yeah, and to me, I actually

695
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: thought that was a really good performance.

696
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: I thought that was an incredible performance. There was so

697
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: much personality put into it. You know, it wasn't just oh,

698
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: I have to play. It was sort of like, no,

699
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I want to play.

700
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: And what I want and I want to say something,

701
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: and you know, before we started the pot formally, I

702
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: did tell you I'm a big like Jim Henson person,

703
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: and I feel like there was a lot of like

704
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: whimsy coated stuff in there, which I really appreciate. It

705
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: felt kind of catered to my sort of overall energy

706
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: into mean.

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00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Yeah, when they make whimsy illegal,

708
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: call me dead man walking.

709
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you the Jim Henson I have to say, like,

710
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: first of all, name, Yes, okay, thank you performance. Can

711
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: I have that written for will send in the other room.

712
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: We'll have them even nearby notary. It's always so hard

713
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: to get.

714
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: After an official transcript online and then it goes through

715
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Speaker 1: the registrar, but they will send it via mail.

716
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: Just make sure I know my user ideas because I'll

717
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: have to forget passwords.

718
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: And you have to use your alumni account.

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00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, famously didn't go to college, so sort of

720
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: soapunk rock.

721
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, why not learn through a living? And

722
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: I was really afraid of being crippled financially.

723
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: That's a good fear to have, the see. I was

724
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: sort of told like, just take out as many loans

725
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: as you can.

726
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: Write and money doesn't exist.

727
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just have fun with it.

728
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, whereas I was told I was told

729
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: that if you do not get into an elite university,

730
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: your life has no worth.

731
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: Did you go to an elite university?

732
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: You better believe or it did?

733
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: Well?

734
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, and look.

735
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: At me now, and look at me now in fucking

736
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: midtown New York City.

737
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm square.

738
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: Maybe George, you don't know this, I don't think. But

739
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: the billboards behind you are all lit up, they are

740
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: changing colors, and they are like it is so funny.

741
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: I really so much like.

742
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the Jojo Siwa music video.

743
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: It's very distracting, like and it's so I feel like

744
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 2: you're like our times square, like it's New Year's I

745
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: do feel very absolutely giving.

746
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper, Yeah, you need to be loaded.

747
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: And we are in the studio being like, so, how

748
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: is the energy. Down there in Times Square.

749
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: Down there two more hours.

750
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

751
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Coming up next, a sneak preview at season sixteen of

752
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Emily in Paris, and a performance from Jojo Siwa. Before

753
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: we got.

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00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: Molana, we got Puppets, we got more performing her new

755
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: single I'm Leaking.

756
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: She'll be out in just a sec.

757
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: I'm loving how she's saying she's changing the paradigm. She's like,

758
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: no one's ever done what I've done.

759
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: No.

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00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Actually, I want to go on the record as saying

761
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: I have zero patients for anyone bullying Jojo Siwa.

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00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 3: She no, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I would say she is approximately. I don't even know

764
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: if she's literate. I think she is.

765
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: She has never been doing all of your childhood on

766
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: dance Moms.

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00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm like where she was on dance mom That's that's

768
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: where she comes. Wow, a goddamn.

769
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 4: Wonder that she's made an empire for herself when she

770
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: was essentially like verbally berated by a crazy person, by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, verbally braved by a crazy person and maintained her

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: JOI de vive, maintained her sense of wonder. I think

773
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: she is one of our great American heroes.

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: I talked about whimsy.

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00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: I do think she could do with a little less Jois.

776
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I had a little more div when I was in

777
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: high school, I was pressured to study for the SAT

778
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: and I'm still recovering from that trauma. And Jojosie was

779
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: on television.

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00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: Imagine the trauma was on.

781
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: Television for fifteen years, just being absolutely humiliated by adults

782
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: around her.

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: Oh like what's her name? Would say stuff like you

784
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: with a bad haircut? Why did your mom let you

785
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: do that?

786
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: Like?

787
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: And then now go dance for eight hours?

788
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Dance.

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00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Now she's finally liberated, and she's gonna get shipped from

790
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: gay guys on the internet?

791
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

792
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: Because she doesn't know who Gene Simmons is, even though

793
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: she's dressed just like Jens. Respect let her do that,

794
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, let her cosplays Jean Simmons and not look

795
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: him up.

796
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: I think this is a beautiful message. But I do

797
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: think like it's not necessarily bullying as much as it's

798
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: thoughtful critique. And I think she could bear to hear

799
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: some thoughtful critique because she wants to move forward in

800
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: her in her chosen career path of whatever it is

801
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: she is.

802
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: Where the where in the Save Last Dance where the

803
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 4: Juilliard board and we're just helping her find her.

804
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you almost want to be like like I

805
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: want to like take her and be like no, move

806
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: like this, like what do you.

807
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Want her to move?

808
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Like?

809
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just trying to paint a picture in

810
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 3: my head just like.

811
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: Maybe like not like a cartoon character, but I think.

812
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: That's what she's trying to do. I think she's pivoting.

813
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Well she's pivoting, but it's not like it still feels

814
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: cartoon to you, really cartoony, but.

815
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: You know what it's feeling more like it used to

816
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: feel very like, you know, explosive rainbows, like what's the

817
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: what's the like the ponies and pol Lisa Frank You

818
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: still very Lisa Frank.

819
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: And now it feels a little more like Roco's modern life.

820
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: The animation a little darker, a little edgier, And I

821
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: think I can be on board with that.

822
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I think she's always going to be animation, and I

823
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: think the challenge is going from children's Nickelodeon animation to

824
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: adult animation. I think maybe it's trying to get BoJack horses,

825
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: trying to get to BoJack Horseman, and I think she's

826
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: still at, you know, a sort of SpongeBob level.

827
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: Sure.

828
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: I did watch the SpongeBob movie the other day and

829
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: I actually really love it.

830
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I love the SpongeBob film.

831
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: No, here, and let's stay on that for twenty to

833
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: thirty minutes.

834
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: And honey, we could. And that's one thing that is

835
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: a curse about our this career path of podcaster is

836
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: if someone says the SpongeBob movie, we literally will be like, okay,

837
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Robs everything.

838
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm actually really proud of us for not getting

839
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: more into Madam Web before, because there was a part

840
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: of me that was like.

841
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: We were cussed.

842
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I was literally like, hold my calls.

843
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: Because we let's go to a cafe, not even on

844
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: the pod, and let's just dig.

845
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: We've been trying to talk about it less because obviously

846
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: it came out now months.

847
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: Ago, right, it's certainly not relevant anymore.

848
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: We cannot stop whenever it comes up. We're like, but seriously, when.

849
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: Someone's already hosted S ANDL you have to move on,

850
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: of course.

851
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: But also, I mean, we talk about this. I think

852
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe is related to emotional that's what I was going

853
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: to say. I think that you only get so many

854
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: things that you can, like be ironically annoying about each year,

855
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: like you have to skip. I would say, you get

856
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: one out of every fifteen that come your way, like

857
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: and I, unfortun as much as I'm trying to resist,

858
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: I think I might have to use another one of

859
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: mine for the Jojo sas. There is a part of

860
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: me that I have been listening to it on my

861
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: free time. I repeat on my time.

862
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: The physical song.

863
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: You've been listening to the song.

864
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: I have been listening to the song in my home.

865
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: I never heard the song.

866
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: I've never I mean I've heard like a clip as

867
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: a bit.

868
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: It's the world debut of Jojo Sea WA's song. You

869
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: heard it here first on.

870
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: The pads with you right now?

871
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: Wow, I am in shock. Oh yeah, I've never heard it.

872
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I just thought that no one, no one of our

873
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: pure group was sort of going to listen.

874
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you think iSIG iszag.

875
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: What's weird, too, is when I thought of music video,

876
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: I just thought it was mute.

877
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: I didn't think about the song attacked. All right, there's

878
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: a whole song, right is the soundtrack to the music video.

879
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: Remember when music videos were a bigger deal than the

880
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: song itself, very trl days.

881
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Take me back, Take me back to Hillary Duff having

882
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: that shirt that says everything is bigger in Texas. That

883
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: was when America was a real country and.

884
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: The belt that was like, you know, so chunky.

885
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: I wait, there was something Jojo Siwa. I wasn't done

886
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: with her. I was not done with her. Oh I

887
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: want to say, George literally won't listen to New Dua Lipa.

888
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: He won't listen to on a Grande. He like refuses

889
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: to hear any of the girls.

890
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah strong stanch ye Jo.

891
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean, you're sort of leading me

892
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: perfectly into like reiterating my point from before, which I

893
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: didn't even plan to, which is I only believe in

894
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: low and high now and no mid and so I'm like,

895
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Jojo. You're all about polarity, I'm

896
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: all about clarity. I mean, I'm like Jojo. Okay, she's

897
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: wearing a sequined unitard and doing like sort of aggressively

898
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: violent lesbian gyrating on a CGI island and singing a

899
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: song that was written in twenty twelve for Miley Cyrus,

900
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: and she rejected it, then they gave it to Jojo,

901
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: and then JoJo's said, I went into the studio and said,

902
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna invent a new genre called gay pop, literally

903
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: singing a song that was written that song that was

904
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: written for Miley Cyrus. I'm like, that is I'm sorry,

905
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: but that is way more fun to me than a

906
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: new and you Jack Antonov produced sing I hear you.

907
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: It's like when Debbie Ryan in the interview where she's like,

908
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: I walked right into that office and I said, We're

909
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 4: going to make history.

910
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: I love that, Glad.

911
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: It is sort of similar.

912
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I think, really I'm taking a break from the middle,

913
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not saying I'm never going to

914
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: go back to it, but I'm like, I'm literally like,

915
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: unless I'm either going to film for him and seeing

916
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: uh La Kimera or I am at home watching on

917
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: YouTube the Jojo see what music video on a loop

918
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: and that's all I can handle at this stage of

919
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: my life.

920
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: And when you're doing either thing, like when you're you know,

921
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: watching you know, slow cinema at you know, vidiots or

922
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: wherever are you having like fois gras and martinis, And

923
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: then when you're watching Jojo Sie, why are you like

924
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: eating a bucket of KFC?

925
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: So this is when interesting. I actually think, Okay, thank

926
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: you for asking that, brilliant.

927
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: I want to know if your lifestyle is high and.

928
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I want to know how how deep this

929
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: thing goes.

930
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I actually think I am all in on the middle

931
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: for food. Yeah, so l pon guess I'm for food.

932
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking artisanal tacos and I'm thinking of elevated burger.

933
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: That's where I am food wise. I don't want cap'n crunch,

934
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: and I don't want uh like molecular astronomy. I want

935
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: down the middle.

936
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

937
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: I can respect that, and that's probably better on the

938
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: like the gastro it's so good on the system. Oh yeah,

939
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, as the older we get, we need to.

940
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Be really important, really really important.

941
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh honey, I'm having the best BMS the life.

942
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm of course nineteen, so not something I have to

943
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: worry about.

944
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: Something I have to worry about. But neitherss to say

945
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: my BMS or to die gorgeous.

946
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: I hate when the doctor asks how they are.

947
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh I love that?

948
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: Oh do you?

949
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: I say, let me welcome to my life problem. I

950
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: mean not to I will tell the story. Okay, one

951
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: time I went to the doctor right because I was

952
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 2: having stomach issues and they were like, okay, we're gonna

953
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: need a school sample. And I was like, okay, so

954
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: where should I go do that? And she was like, now,

955
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah, so I'm the weird one.

956
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: Can Yeah, that's.

957
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: That.

958
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: You're just like ready to go?

959
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: No I was. I think she was freaked out that

960
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: I was ready to go. Like she was like, no,

961
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: this you take it home. You like, when you need

962
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: to you put it in here.

963
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: I would need Like one time I went to camp

964
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: and didn't go to that room for three weeks because

965
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: of just sheer anxiety, so it would take me some time.

966
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: Wow, well, I was ready to go right there, and

967
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: she was freaked out and judgmental.

968
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: She dropped her pants in front of her. That's fine.

969
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: It's almost like.

970
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: You're being punished for being too high achieving.

971
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: It was she was literally seeing me be a star

972
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: and she said, dim your light, sweetet.

973
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, that's what that movie Pearl

974
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: is about.

975
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: Exactly what that movie pearls about. Should we get into

976
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: our topic.

977
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually would love to get to this topic

978
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: because this is a really really good topic to me, So, Hannah,

979
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I would love to know, and in fact, we would

980
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: like to know if I can be so bold as

981
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: you can speak to me, what is your topic today

982
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: and what is straight about it?

983
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: I've been thinking a lot about I grew up.

984
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: I grew up in New York City and then I

985
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: moved to the suburbs of Philly, and like preppy culture

986
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: was such a thing. Like I'm talking to not the

987
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: one popped collar, but the popped collar on top of

988
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: the popped collar, the ribbon in the side pony, the

989
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: the denim skirt.

990
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: And the Laguna Beach of it all. Yes, yeah, and

991
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: that and nothing felt straighter to me. I was like,

992
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: there's there's not a queer person in sight on Laguna Beach, literally,

993
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: at least not that it's not gonna make the cut.

994
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Todd was always in the background daily. Yeah, yeah,

995
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: that's true.

996
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: Todd was a glorified extra.

997
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: But I think this it's specifically at the like two

998
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: thousand and six, like preppy surfer combo. Yes, was an

999
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: interesting and hateful uniform.

1000
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: One hundred everyone it felt like little boxes on the hillside,

1001
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: but you know, very like everyone looking the exact same,

1002
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 3: acting the exact same.

1003
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Yes.

1004
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: Well, and when I moved from New York to there,

1005
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is the culture and this

1006
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: is like you can form you know, everyone looks exactly

1007
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: the same. And then I remember I bought like red

1008
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: boots at a thrift store and promptly stopped wearing them

1009
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: because they didn't fit in with the kind of straight

1010
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: middle school culture.

1011
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: Elementary school.

1012
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually I was just born. I was

1013
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: just being born then.

1014
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, wait a minute, I'm just out of the womb.

1015
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: I love that I'm backtracked to be like I could

1016
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: be any age. I'll never tell I.

1017
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: Really was, like I guess, I actually don't know.

1018
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: It was elementary, middle, high school. College. Actually, oh it

1019
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 3: was a montessory everything.

1020
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice.

1021
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh did you go to Montessori for college?

1022
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: That's correct. I went to Montessori College of Phoenix.

1023
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: No, but I just I remember moving to that town

1024
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: and feeling like, oh, okay, we kind of got to

1025
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: all be tight lipped about who We're all going to

1026
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: look the same, and therefore I don't know anything about anybody.

1027
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: And I had that exact experience. I mean, it was

1028
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: so I moved to America when I was in second grade,

1029
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: and then lived in the suburbs of New Jersey from

1030
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: second grade to eighth grade, and then my family moved

1031
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: back to Greece, but that that period second grade to

1032
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: eighth grade in the early two thousands in suburban New Jersey,

1033
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: it was like, I would say, the spectrum was abercromb

1034
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: beyond one end and Hollister on the other. Yeah, and

1035
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: you were not allowed to know about things that existed

1036
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: on either side of the like it's totally the whole world.

1037
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: It's like, how you know we have Democrats, we have

1038
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans, and you're not allowed to question the

1039
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: two party system.

1040
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1041
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: That's sort of what Hollister in Abercrombie was when well.

1042
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: And what's gross about it as well, is I really,

1043
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: you're around it enough so you want to then be

1044
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: you want to be a part of the culture. I

1045
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: remember walking into Hollister and someone asked if I wanted

1046
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: to work there, and I was beside myself.

1047
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: With joy when that happened to me as well, and

1048
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: the fact I actually weird.

1049
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: I only ever have a meet No.

1050
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: I actually had to bring it up because I'm like

1051
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: that still matters.

1052
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: It still matters.

1053
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 4: Wait, do you remember the shirtless guys with more colone,

1054
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 4: like dripping in colone?

1055
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: Well, I remember what the side of the store. Well,

1056
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: if you went to the store in New York, they

1057
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: were literally like six guys.

1058
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: But I would argue, that's not straight at all. That

1059
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: felt very queer coded to me.

1060
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: The guys.

1061
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: They were very straight, the guys.

1062
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: But it's the it's the queer codedness. It's that that

1063
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: little dance where it's like, but you can't as a man,

1064
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: think this is hot, Like that's true.

1065
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: You know what it reminds me of though, Like going

1066
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: to gay bars and the guys that are dancing a

1067
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: lot of times.

1068
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: Are straight, yes, yeah, And I'm like you're infiltrated, Like

1069
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: what are you doing here?

1070
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: I had a freaky feeling last night. Last night I

1071
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: went to the Eagle. I love the Eagle to death,

1072
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: and like the bartenders are like wearing like little underwear

1073
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: and like little cut off flannel shirts and stuff, and

1074
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, like I was like ooh, like so hot,

1075
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: so sexy. And then I was like, oh my god,

1076
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm at a Hooters.

1077
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: Like I'm a you're a Hooters.

1078
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm like this is so disgusting of me totally.

1079
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: I've noticed in LA specifically when I go to I

1080
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: don't want to say straight bars, but when I go

1081
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: to bars that aren't gay bars, I don't get hit

1082
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: on it all until last call, when like a drunk

1083
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, it's tall, and.

1084
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: I was like, when I just talk to you. And

1085
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: then I go to a gay bar and all these

1086
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: straight men approach me and I'm like, what are you

1087
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: doing here?

1088
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: That's not what this is for? Interesting, get out of

1089
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 4: my way. But those are the same guys that worked all.

1090
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: Us for so long, like sort of like annoying gay

1091
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: guys would complain about straight women at gay bars. They'd

1092
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: be like vechelor rep parties straight women, blah blah. Well

1093
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: guess what, sweetheart, now we have straight men there too.

1094
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and also yeah, is a by woman a

1095
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 3: lot at a gay bar?

1096
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: I think yes, I mean I think all women's allowed

1097
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: to woman.

1098
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: A gay bar if she's Miley Cyrus.

1099
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: My my thing is if you're going to be weird

1100
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 4: and creepy and give off like it's you know, frankly

1101
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 4: like polo in the bar. Still like we're still we're

1102
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: still wearing the polo at. I dated someone who wore

1103
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: a lot of like salmon and khaki, and it was

1104
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: really triggering to that twix ten of my life, and let's.

1105
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Talk about it. I want to really go into details

1106
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: about the visual semiotics of this world because it is

1107
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: something that I feel like we almost still have not

1108
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: fully processed. Just to know that there were fully guys

1109
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: that were by all counts mask presenting that we're wearing

1110
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: a double pop collar where one was light pink and

1111
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: one was baby blue.

1112
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: That's true. It was pastel salmon.

1113
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was confusing because that was what was

1114
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: on top. But then it would be cargo shorts on

1115
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: the bottom.

1116
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 4: That's true. It was a little party on top. And

1117
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: then of course remember it's casual.

1118
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still a man, I'm wearing cargo shorts.

1119
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: And it's interesting the shirt on the shirt on the shirt,

1120
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: because layering was huge, it didn't matter the weather. And

1121
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: I would wear the little jean skirt and then the

1122
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: thick ug. I'm not talking the thin, skinny ug. I'm

1123
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: talking the one that looked like a full bear on

1124
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: each leg and that would chunk around like and everyone's

1125
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: chonking around the school halls.

1126
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: It was a lot of playing with proportions oh yes, yes.

1127
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: A lot of three quarter sleeves yes, and a lot

1128
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: of three quartered leg a lot of Bermuda short and.

1129
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: You think a sort of a I guess you would

1130
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: call it. Is it a baseball shirt? Like three quarter sleeve.

1131
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Shirty like that the Sambas of shirts.

1132
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: Yes. I was like, Wow, that's the hottest possible thing

1133
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: a guy can wear.

1134
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And okay, but then Puka shelle of course, and

1135
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: of course, or some sort of necklace that's not the

1136
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 4: shell bridle.

1137
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: This I'm trying to like pinpoint why it felt like.

1138
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like visually recounting it. It feels threatening.

1139
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: I feel fear me too imagining this man. But is

1140
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: it actually like if someone wore that, like if you

1141
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: removed it from the context, is it a scary look

1142
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 2: or is it like fashionie at all?

1143
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, well, first of all, it's certainly

1144
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: I think that people who made it fashion e were

1145
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: sort of like I mean, imagine like Pharrell during that era,

1146
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: like wearing like a like a polo and chunky glasses

1147
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: and like a hat and plaid, like mixing and matching

1148
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: in a way that felt at that time fresh or something.

1149
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: In terms of whether it's threatening to me at the

1150
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: most basic level, it's threatening because it evokes a country club,

1151
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: which evokes the Republicans, which evokes like mass.

1152
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: Sure, it makes me think.

1153
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 4: I think it just reminds me of a lot of

1154
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 4: bullies at that time were very much and country club

1155
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: and swim team and like yoked and spooky. It was

1156
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 4: just a little spooky, and a lot of those people

1157
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: kind of like are still doing it, like they didn't

1158
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: leave and their kids are going to kind of be

1159
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: the new version of that.

1160
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have this thing where I actually

1161
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: really do like preppy stuff. Okay, but it's tough because

1162
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: I don't want how do you do it with how

1163
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: do you do it with enough wink where you're like, well,

1164
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm playing with it. I'm not I'm not a believer.

1165
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: I think it's precisely that.

1166
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: Like I have like a vintage Abercrombie like polo shirt,

1167
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: but it's like made of it's like knit and like

1168
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: cable nitty, and then I'll wear it with like a

1169
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: cool different pant or something. I'm talking this full uniform.

1170
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1171
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: But you know what though, this is what's scary for me,

1172
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: is that actually the straight guys are also doing it

1173
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: with wink and then you're like, I can't win this.

1174
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: Like it's true, don't you think, Like it's the entire

1175
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: point of wearing all pesttels and ribbon milts is almost

1176
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: being like, look, how faggy I'm dressed.

1177
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: And yeah, true, and.

1178
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Yet I could get violent at any second.

1179
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a there's a violence around it.

1180
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a violence around it. Well, it's sort of

1181
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: like like, are you going to say something to me?

1182
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Are you going to talk about my pants? Because I'll

1183
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: beat you up.

1184
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: It's very golf course, yeah, which to me is one

1185
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: of the most violent places.

1186
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's quite golf is literally colonialism at a smaller scale.

1187
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess that's you know, and then that

1188
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: feels scary and straight to me.

1189
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I think you're so right to point to

1190
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: the scariness as a fundamental element. Yes, there is a.

1191
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: Threat, and looking back, you know, there are points in

1192
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: my life where and fashion things that we've returned to

1193
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: and recycled that I'm thrilled about. For a minute, I

1194
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know about low rise, and now

1195
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: I'm actually very much on the low rise TRP. Oh wow,

1196
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: I've come back around to it because I'm like, I

1197
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: don't know, I like showing off a little hip, sure,

1198
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 4: but I would never in my I would never wish

1199
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: this somebo my worst enemy for this to And frankly,

1200
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 4: it is making a resurgence because Hollisters are still open.

1201
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: Abercrombie's are still open, and I went into one recently

1202
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: just to kind of like, I don't know, like retraumatize

1203
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: myself of co and it was just as fresh as

1204
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: software year.

1205
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I have been hearing from no one asked

1206
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: me to work there, which was I've been hearing, Yeah, well,

1207
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: if all of us go to Abercrombie now, they'd be like,

1208
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: are you interested in being senior manager like a franchise?

1209
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: Okay, there's prep and then and this is another thing

1210
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 4: that's so classest of preppiness, was there was your Hollister,

1211
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: your Abercrombie, which I couldn't really afford.

1212
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: And then there was your Aeroposta, Yes, an American.

1213
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: Eagle, an American eagle, which frankly you'd get shade for,

1214
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: of course. And so that's also the evil of it.

1215
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: But I do love like being a middle schooler and

1216
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: being like like having pretend taste, like being like yeah,

1217
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: to be like, yes, it is aeropostle, but it actually

1218
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: kind of works. Being a bitch about mall stores is

1219
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: so funny.

1220
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: Well, really, like the reason I buy clothes that malls

1221
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: is the lighting in the dressing room, and Hollister did

1222
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: have that down to a science.

1223
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: I looked like I had you dark.

1224
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: You guys remember that they had the live stream of

1225
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: the beach at all times, Yeah, maybe like laguna four pm,

1226
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: and it would just be like the waves and I

1227
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: go into the dressing room and I would feel like

1228
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: the hottest shit in the world. Yeah, And that lighting

1229
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: was everything an aerowpostol was blinding and it was really

1230
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: and a lot of graphic. And I don't think that

1231
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: had anything to do with the clothes, but I do

1232
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: think there's a prep hierarchy of course.

1233
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, now here's something that complicates this theory.

1234
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 6: Okay, J crew, Okay, such a first word, J second word,

1235
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 6: I say low And I was like.

1236
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 5: Did she wear a lot of preppy stuff? And this

1237
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 5: is me Now no one knows because no one has

1238
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 5: seen it. Truly, I have, which is crazy. Yeah, wow,

1239
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: that's I actually.

1240
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: Have an idea for j Loo for her next era

1241
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: is she should fully wear a head to toe Agricrombie

1242
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: and Hollister. That would get people talking. Jayla with a

1243
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: side ponytail with a ribbon.

1244
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Jlo playing lacrosse.

1245
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Jlo playing lacrosse. Side ponytail, green and pink ribbon, two

1246
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: pop collars, skirt with pleats.

1247
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean she should literally pink like. She should

1248
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: enroll in a middle school.

1249
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: Only Lindy Pulitzer from now on, literally go to class, monogrammed.

1250
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: Backpack, kind of like rut late to class. I've never

1251
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: been kissed a fifty and she should. That would get

1252
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: so much press, and her report car would come out

1253
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: and we'd be like, oh my god, JUICEE Jailer's work.

1254
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't you tried that instead of sinking twenty

1255
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: million of your own dollars into a movie from one.

1256
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Public schools are free, j Lo. Just go to middle

1257
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: school again.

1258
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

1259
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: Just grab a squashball in the lacrosse what is it

1260
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: a racket, yeasket, lacrosse the basket and see me going

1261
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 3: like this, this is so lax.

1262
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: That's so it's also a hint job.

1263
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 3: Grind.

1264
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, there's video of me doing this.

1265
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm ruined.

1266
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

1267
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so you said j Crew, Oh yeah, what do

1268
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 3: you mean?

1269
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean that, What the fuck are you talking about again?

1270
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: You're turning my grandma started on that.

1271
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: I did not know how much you hated your grandma.

1272
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: No, it's like I feel that, I don't feel hatreds.

1273
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: Just like when she talks to me, I get annoyed,

1274
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: like she can do what she wants to do, and

1275
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I want to do. It's just like

1276
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: when she wants me to come talk to her, I'm like,

1277
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: fuck you.

1278
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you have goddamn car you can

1279
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: read words.

1280
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: No, you feel the way you feel about her the

1281
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: way I feel about Middle Brad pop stars. You're like,

1282
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: you do your thing. I will not be tuning in

1283
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: and I will not be downloading.

1284
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: The only difference is this is blood and those are

1285
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: you know, straight entirely Okay, sorry, Okay.

1286
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: To me, it's a sort of outlier, I guess, in

1287
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: the sense that somehow it has stood that it has

1288
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: been able to evolve along with the times during all

1289
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: these years, like that's.

1290
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: True as you would think.

1291
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: If anything, Ja Crew was sort of like the biggest,

1292
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: one of the biggest players in the prep movement.

1293
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: And yet yeah, Jacer is very Charlotte Yorke's. I think

1294
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: the difference is it's marginally for adults.

1295
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you're right, it's actually for adults.

1296
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: And that's where it gets complicated.

1297
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: What scares me about even j Crue is the shapelessness

1298
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: of it all, which is like preppy clothes are they're

1299
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: eliminating all ass that, Like, all the pants are boxy,

1300
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: everything feels boxy, and that also feels violent to me.

1301
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: But what about like the skirt, because the thing with

1302
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: preppy is like it also is difficult to describe whether

1303
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: or not it's slutty because on the one hand, it's

1304
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: so conservative. On the one hand, it's so conservative. On

1305
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: the other hand, if you remember during that era, the

1306
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: skirts were like two inches long.

1307
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: That's very true.

1308
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like like JA Crue, preppy you could

1309
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: say is like fetish where of course, because it's like

1310
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretending there's not a body under here. Oh no,

1311
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: actually I'm fucking horny as hell.

1312
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: No, there's a cool intentions.

1313
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 4: Prep that's like horny, like Gossip Girl Prep, which is

1314
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: like throw a tie on an otherwise alfhit from urban outfitters,

1315
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But with Jay Crewe, it

1316
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: does feel I know this because my cousin has like

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Speaker 4: a real job. Okay, what I do is nothing, is

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Speaker 4: my belief. But she like audits for NBC and like

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Speaker 4: would give me her clothes. I did Inherit all her

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Speaker 4: like corporate like Jake Crew clothes, and I would feel it.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I'd lose all my form when

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Speaker 4: I put it on. I'd feel like I'd be perceived differently.

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Speaker 4: At cafes, they were like, oh, she's a working woman.

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Speaker 4: You know, she's out there in the corporate scene. She's

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Speaker 4: doing deals. She's the Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: guess that's true.

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Speaker 1: I guess It's like j Crew is literally business casual,

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Speaker 1: and then Abercrombie and Hollister are sort of like fucking

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Speaker 1: with business casual. They're like, what if business casual was

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Speaker 1: on the base. Yeah, so in that sense, so punk rock.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have one thing I want to do and

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Speaker 2: then we should end. But I have George. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: the uh those stores are sort of like Democrat and Republican. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know what the what are the political

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Speaker 2: parties of all the stores in them all? Oh, well,

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Speaker 2: here's what I'll say.

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Speaker 1: Actually, so you would think you would think between Abercrombie

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Speaker 1: and Hollister, Abercrombie would be Republican, Hollis would be Democrat

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Speaker 1: because Hollister is California and Abercromby is country club. I

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Speaker 1: would say that's not the case. I think Hollister is

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Speaker 1: Orange County Republican, absolutely California Republicans. And I think Abercrombie

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Speaker 1: is like sort of Westchester neoliberal vote blue no matter

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Speaker 1: who Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I went to Beverly Hills the other day and had

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Speaker 4: the spook of my life, and I think the further

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Speaker 4: that direction you go, Orange County, Laguna all that, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sort of assuming on a compass on a map

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Speaker 4: that they're in the same area. I think, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're of northwest, but I do I think that. I

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00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: think it's deeply Republican there. I also think California is

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: so California is like its own little country, like our

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: little hub is Democrat. But then you go to Bakersfield

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: and then you go to like any beach and it's

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Speaker 4: really Yeah.

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Speaker 2: People keep saying words about like California places, and I

1357
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: just have to.

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: Be like, I did that to you earlier. I'm like,

1359
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: but you got it a while not to see ran

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: go yes, yes, you live straight to my face and

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Speaker 4: you went love it there.

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Speaker 2: I really think that I grew up there. I love

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01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: those places.

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Speaker 1: Sam. I'm so excited for you to learn about all

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01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 1: this because I think I learned more during my six

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01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: years in the Bay Area, like just in terms of

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01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: like geography in America than I have my entire life.

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Speaker 1: California literally is its own, its own country, with its

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Speaker 1: own culture. Sometimes I'm like, there are more differences between

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Speaker 1: California and the rest of America than there are between

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Speaker 1: America and Europe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's accurate. Wow, what about a sharper image?

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Speaker 2: Is that Republican is like Andrew Yang Exactly, It's like

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01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to change everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it really are like it's kind of fair enough.

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01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's like.

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01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's like I'm going to change everything with no

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: actual goal in sight and with no proprietary technology, Like

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of going to throw shit.

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Speaker 4: Is that kind of democrat. Then it's a specific time,

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01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: it's all it's the all talk.

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Speaker 2: I do think air Apostle is like the Green Party, I.

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01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: Think so yeah, yeah, I think Charlotte Rus is undecided.

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Speaker 1: What is the most leftist radical left store? So that's true,

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: but I sort of think Patagonia. I'm like, it's almost

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01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: libertarian or something like.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, what's Lululemons the other way?

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01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that owner, that guy is I'm really trying to think, Okay,

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: what is a store? I mean, hot topic is anarchy

1390
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: is anarchy? But hot topic Spencers gives is the most

1391
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: left leaning?

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, that's that person has so many bumper stickers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this.

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: You know, positive science is read, you know all of it.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: Auntie Anne's pretzels. I'm telling you she is doing the

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: reading every election she does not have. She is not

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: committed to any party because each election she's going to

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: read the newspaper and she's going to decide for herself.

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Speaker 3: Right, she's a Bagan Republican.

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: That being said, she did become like conspiratorial during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's on Facebook twenty four seven. Don't get me wrong.

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01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I say newspaper, I mean

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01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: post on Facebook groups.

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, she's absolutely got an active Facebook.

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: WhatsApp memes that have like headlines as though they're a

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01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: real article, but it's just someone made them on their phone.

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: It's scary stuff out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of a single other I haven't

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Speaker 3: been to a mall.

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Speaker 1: And so what about Azara, Well, Azara is European, so

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, here's what a Zaara is. For

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: American standards, it's left wing, but for European standards it's centrist,

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe Azara is like Trudeau.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exce.

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Speaker 2: Wait I Unfortunately, I'm like, we should do our final

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: We have to do our final segment, which.

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: Is so sad because.

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Speaker 1: It's incredibly sad actually, and I will be thinking about

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: it for months.

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01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: But you have to go performing wicket in Times Square, right, right, Yeah,

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 4: we got to let you get to.

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: Go yeah warm that voice up.

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: Ah, that's an alphabet, my member.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hand on our final segment is called shout Outs,

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01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: and in this segment we pay homage to the Grand

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: straight tradition of the radio shout out. You know, imagine

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: it's twenty one and you're in Times Square for TRL

1433
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: shouting out to your squad back home. But about anything

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: that you enjoy, people, places, things, ideas. We will go

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: first and then you will go.

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: Okay and kind of a straight thing.

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Speaker 2: It can be whatever, really whatever.

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Speaker 1: I just thought of one that's on theme. Can I go,

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01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: oh please, okay, I just thought of this, So bear

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Speaker 1: with me. What's up Times Square? That's right, happen you.

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Speaker 1: Year twenty twenty five is going to be our year, babe.

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Vampire Weekend

1443
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: talking about preppiness. I realized we didn't even mention them

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: and our big discussion on preppiness. I want to say

1445
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: a Vampire week And you know, we've had our ups,

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01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: we've had our downs. I've had my you know, uh,

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: sort of like contrarian era where I thought you were lame,

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: and then I've had my assimilationist era where I really

1449
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: like you. But ultimately you show up every time with

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01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: versions of the same exact songs with almost identical lyrics,

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: and I eat it up every time. And you know what, somehow,

1452
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: against all odds, you have stood the test of time.

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: You evoke such a feeling, such a specific place and time,

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's all I need to be comforted. I

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01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: don't need I don't need, you know, I don't need Byork,

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01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need someone to be mixing

1457
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: jazz and classical. I just need someone to be going,

1458
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, Diane Young and then just sort of that

1459
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: like forever at nauseum. So thank you, Ezra Knig and

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: think of Vampire Weekend for everything, and shout out to

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Speaker 1: Columbia University.

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoo. That is such a beautiful shoutout. And I

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Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. I really, you know, every time I'm

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: like are they going to pull it off? And I'm like,

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: you know, there is some taste here, there is some

1466
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: undeniable taste here, and we like to write them off,

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: oh whatever two thousand and ten or whatever, and it's

1468
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, They're going to be around forever. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am ready. What's up everyone around the globe from

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 2: sea to shining Sea. I want to give a huge

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: shout out to the burrito that I had this morning.

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: I had a breedo around eleven thirty ish and it

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: was so damn good. And I have been going to

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01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: this place that is a twenty minute walk from my

1475
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: current apartment, and I have been loving it and it

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: makes me feel like, you know what. Moving is difficult,

1477
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: but life finds away and I have my spot and

1478
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: I crave it, and I say, it's the weekend that

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: means I get to have my burrito. And so I

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: am saying, you know, yes it's different, and yes I'm

1481
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: not the same person I was six months ago. But

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: there is a future for me, maybe in California, maybe

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: in anywhere else in the world. No one knows what

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 2: the future holds. Xoxo, Sam, what's up.

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Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out, as we've previously mentioned,

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: to the film Never Been Kissed, which I just rewatched

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: in honor of, you know, talking about straight culture.

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Speaker 3: The fact that she was, you know, flirting with her

1489
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: teacher and we were all like, no problems there, and

1490
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: then they went to prom and the budget was anywhere

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: from five hundred thousand dollars to a million dollars. I

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: love high school films with infinite budgets. I want to

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: give a shout out to the I don't know old

1494
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: school rom coms that I really missed because now it's

1495
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: kind of getting anyone but you'd yea and it's a

1496
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: lot of vocal fry and I don't I don't need

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01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 3: that in that landscape. So shout out to that film

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Speaker 3: and thanks true for all that you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Woo wow wow, she has a lot for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Hannah, this has been an absolute delay.

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Speaker 3: This was so fun.

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for doing it.

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01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait to work at Hollister together.

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01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to be dripping in cologne and to

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 4: make freshman's jopes and dreams come true by offering them

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: a position.

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01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah damn, that would make them feel So can.

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: You imagine if we were all managers at Hollister? That

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: would be an all.

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Speaker 2: Time We were spotting teens and being like you've got

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Speaker 2: what it takes, which.

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Speaker 3: Sounds yeah, that's that's that's predatorial.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I have a couple of emails from

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Speaker 1: being there myself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye, okay bye podcast and now want more?

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