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Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's me Joey p

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Speaker 1: Joe Piezapia, and today Scott Bogman and I are going

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Speaker 1: to start looking at this week's Bowl games. That's right,

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Speaker 1: part one of the Bowl Action Spectacular. The next two weeks,

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Speaker 1: we're going to continue to bring you coverage here on

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros of all the ball games, and Scott Bogmin's

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Speaker 1: gonna break down this first grouping. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: the latest that you'll see over this weekend, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously as we get closer to the National Championship games

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot more going on, we'll get you

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Speaker 1: up to speed with everything you need to know there.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going anywhere, don't worry. We just took

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Speaker 1: that one week off and here we are right back,

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Speaker 1: ready to go. And we also gave out some hardware

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Speaker 1: while we were off. Scott Bogman won the Heisman, So

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Speaker 1: congratulations to you, Bogs. I know the story and yeah,

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Speaker 1: well deserved, well deserved is all like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not often that a thirty eight year

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Speaker 2: old guy that never played college football wins the Heisman,

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Speaker 2: but when it happens, you like to celebrate. So you know, now,

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Speaker 2: obviously Bryce Young won the Heisman. I think to me,

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Speaker 2: this just kind of says we'll never have a defensive.

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Speaker 3: Player won the Heisman again. You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I if Aiden Hutchinson didn't win it this year,

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 1: Think it's if you had a vote, who would you

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Speaker 2: Probably Aiden Hutchinson, you know, Willie this is very good too.

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Speaker 2: But Bryce Young was great, don't get don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think he's very deserving of the Heisman Trophy. But

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Speaker 2: this was one of the years where as the writers

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Speaker 2: and as the voting public, I think you could have said, well,

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Speaker 2: this year, no one led wire to wire. There wasn't

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Speaker 2: a big offensive debate here, Let's give it to the

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Speaker 2: defensive kid finally, you know, and it didn't happen. You know,

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Speaker 2: Charles Woodson was the last one and probably gonna be.

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Speaker 1: A long time ago. So yeah, decades now ago, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of shocking. You know, had it not been

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Speaker 2: I think it would have been Yeah, I think it probably,

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Speaker 2: But he was outstanding in this He was so good.

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Speaker 1: I told you, you know, yeah, we were. We came

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Speaker 1: on here. We talked about it last time. I like,

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Speaker 1: just how brilliant he was in that game. You and

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Speaker 1: I talked about it. I mean, it was the best

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Speaker 1: career and it was at the best time and the

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Speaker 1: most important, most crucial, and uh so good for Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to him. Bogman a bridesmaid, never a bride. But

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Speaker 1: we'll continue on and let's start with some of these

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Speaker 1: bowl games. And as we go through them, you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: what the hell did they name that bowl game after

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Speaker 1: this thing or whatever it is. So that's the fun

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Speaker 1: of the bowl games is not only digging into the games,

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Speaker 1: but Bogman was also getting me a couple of guys too,

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So let's just kick things off here,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with the Bahamas Bowl, which is where

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Speaker 1: I'm going right after all football seasons going. As soon

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Speaker 1: as it's done, I am going to the Bahamas. Check it.

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Speaker 1: Toledo ten point favorites versus Middle Tennessee State. The number

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Speaker 1: the Bahamas Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Brian Kobak is the leader of the offense for Toledo,

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Speaker 2: The kwand Finn has been great in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee. Quarterback Nick Vadiado was named to the All

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Speaker 2: So this one should be a fun one. But I

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Speaker 1: All right, If Friday you're in love, then the Cure

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Speaker 1: Bowl is for you. Coastal Carolina ten and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorites versus Northern Illinois. The over under is sixty

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Speaker 1: three and a half. Bogman, I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 1: were an emo kid at all, if you had any

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Speaker 1: I mean I would love I think this was they

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Speaker 1: all the jerseys should look like, you know, like Island. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think like the Cure Bowl. Everybody should just be

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Speaker 3: It's it's the sister ball of the Smith's Ball. So

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Speaker 1: Ball, dude, it's playing down the street.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more for you know, curing diseases.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, wait to make me feel like

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Speaker 1: don't know how many weeks.

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Speaker 3: I can't. I can't give you a little hard time.

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Speaker 1: Come on the sick kids, man, Maybe I can't break it,

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Speaker 1: I'm just teasing.

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Speaker 2: But look, if NIU has a shot at this game,

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Speaker 2: They got to control clock here, which is something they've

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Speaker 2: But if you're in a confidence level this this as

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Speaker 2: low because NIU just shows up, Like we didn't expect

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Speaker 3: They showed up and won the MAC Championship, right.

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Speaker 2: So I just think that NIU is a little bit underrated.

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Speaker 2: There are a bunch of prospects to watch in this game.

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Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina has Isaiah Likely the tight end, Grace McCall

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll have anybody drafted. Clint Rakovic

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Speaker 2: also I forgot to mention it and you and I

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Speaker 2: we have a Bullpickham group that I have tweeted out

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Speaker 2: a couple times, and we have a nice prize. A

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Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder autograph jersey from Pristine Auction is on the line,

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Speaker 2: So if you win that, you can win that autograph.

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Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder jersey, So please check that out. I will

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Speaker 2: retweet that again today at Bogman Sports as you're listening

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Speaker 2: to this, so you can see that and potentially, you know,

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Speaker 2: can win it. It is three ninety nine zero dollars to

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Speaker 2: sign up. Go ahead and take a crack at it.

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Speaker 1: And if I register and I win, I will donate

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Speaker 1: it to the cure, not the band. I will donate

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't think you would donate a Desmond

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Speaker 1: No, you know me, you know I do a lot

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Speaker 3: The Black Book always has the charity week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Black I mean we do so much for

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Speaker 1: the Boca Ratone Bowl. Appalachian State Mare first Western Kentucky

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Speaker 1: sixty seven and a half is the over under Bogs

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Western Kentucky in this game. Their offense

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Speaker 2: So for as far as prospects go, D'Angelo Malone a

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Speaker 1: Next one's the New Mexico Bowl. Fresno State eleven and

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Speaker 1: a half point favorites versus UTEP. Fifty and a half

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're only getting on the betting side. They're

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Speaker 2: just slightly over fifty percent of the cash. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's because you know, their coach to Beer left

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Speaker 2: to go to Washington and running back coach Lee Marks

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Speaker 1: the Lending Tree Bowl. Oh so good. Liberty nine and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know that Dad jokes crushed my soul.

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Speaker 1: The rate of interres will be high. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: On the scale on the scale of dad joke, I

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Speaker 2: I think this game all depends on what Malik Willis

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Speaker 2: This is what he's gonna be practicing and running for

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Speaker 1: Oregon State and Utah State will battle to the death

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Speaker 1: for the love of Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel La Bowl. No,

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Speaker 1: Bowl status. Oregon State is seven and a half point

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Speaker 2: Look, I think this game is going to play close.

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Speaker 2: I think they're awful mismatches for both offenses. Oregon State

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Speaker 2: Oregon State as one of the best offensive lines in

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Speaker 1: All Right, New Orleans Bowl twenty third ranked Louisiana five

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Speaker 1: Next on the dock and his Myrtle Beach Bowl, Tulsa

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Speaker 2: This game is gonna be fun because these two teams

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Speaker 2: Tulsa ran for two hundred and ninety seven yards against

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Speaker 2: score loss. But and they put up just under two

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Speaker 2: hundred against Tulane, over two hundred against Temple, and they

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Speaker 2: beat Smuts and their season ODU is improving. But they

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Speaker 2: only beat one eligible one Bowl eligible team in Middle

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Speaker 2: Tennessee State this season during that five game win streak.

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Speaker 2: So give me Tulsa and give me the over a

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Speaker 2: lot of points. I think in this game for Tulsa

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Speaker 2: players to watch on the offensive line, Chris Paul to

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Speaker 2: tackle Tyler Smith the guard, and then on Old Dominion

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Speaker 2: Zach Konze tight end and Jordan Young a linebacker. Probably

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Speaker 2: need the guy gets drafted, but they should be fun

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Speaker 2: to watch in this game, at least.

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Speaker 1: Before we break down the teams in the potato bowl.

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Speaker 1: The potato is a very versatile thing, Bog. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious, what is your favorite style of potato?

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Speaker 2: And well, you know, moving back to Texas here, Joe,

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Speaker 2: there's a thing called the chopp Baker. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know what that is, but it's a potato

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Speaker 2: where you put all the fixings in right, the sour cream,

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Speaker 2: the butter, the chives, the cheese, all that stuff, and

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Speaker 2: then you put barbecue right on top of that. Sob right,

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Speaker 2: So that I one of those two days ago. So

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Speaker 2: my buddy told me this place down the street from me,

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Speaker 2: Rudy's is uh is really good and my doctor hates it.

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Speaker 2: So what's it called the chopper chop baker?

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Speaker 3: Chop baker?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, if you have like a Jason's

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Speaker 2: Deli or something Texas spud So there's all kind of different.

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Speaker 1: Do that though, I mean we do a lot of

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Speaker 1: pulled pork and stuff like that, the pece and p

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Speaker 1: of house. I think I could certainly make that work.

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Speaker 1: But that's a heck of an idea.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna find a picture and send it to you

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I want to see that for sure. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: tweet that later on. But yeah, that's that's a good

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Speaker 1: answer right there. I was not prepared for that. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm hungry.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've got food takes show.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know you don't you and I have

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Speaker 2: food takes away, so you don't get to look like

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Speaker 2: I do without enjoying some food. So you know.

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Speaker 3: Why, I like, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Have like pictures of my family saved in my phone,

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Speaker 2: but I got one of this potato here, so I'll

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Speaker 2: send this right here to.

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Speaker 3: Check out your phone.

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Speaker 1: You can, all right, I'm gonna take a look at it.

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Speaker 1: As you are describing Wyoming three point favorites versus Kent

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Speaker 1: State fifty nine and a half, I'm sorry, just fifty

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Speaker 1: nine is the over under of this one. Pardon me,

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Speaker 1: Wyoming three point favorites of this one verus Kent State.

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Speaker 1: This one's very close here, So do you believe that

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Speaker 1: Kent State has a shot here?

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Speaker 3: I hate this game. Okay, So it's a coin flip.

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Speaker 2: I think this is be one of the purest coin

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Speaker 2: flips that we have here, both sides match up well

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Speaker 2: against each other. Kent State has a great offense, averaging

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Speaker 2: over thirty points per game, but Wyoming is allowing just

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Speaker 2: twenty two points per game. Wyoming is bad on offense,

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Speaker 2: averaging just over twenty three points per game, but Kent

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Speaker 2: State is allowing over thirty. They're one hundred nineteenth in

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Speaker 2: the country in scoring defense, So I think the big

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Speaker 2: factor here will be can Kent State run the ball.

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Speaker 2: In the six losses for Wyoming, they're averaging one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty one rushing yards allowed, and Kent State is

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Speaker 2: fourth in the nation in averaging over two hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty yards per game rushing. So I think this matchup

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Speaker 2: is one of the like I said, purest coin flips here,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that it will be a blowout

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Speaker 2: one way the other because if Kent State can't run,

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Speaker 2: their defense is not going to stop Wyoming. Even though

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Speaker 2: Wyoming doesn't put up a lot of points, they'll be

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Speaker 2: able to against Kent State. But if Kent State can run,

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Speaker 2: they'll control clock and it'll force what the Wyoming offense

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Speaker 2: into mistakes. So I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: blow the way. I just don't know which way. So

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Speaker 2: I'll take Ken State and the points here the plus three.

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Speaker 2: But if this is a confidence game like we're playing,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have it fairly low. As far as Ken

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Speaker 2: State goes, Dustin Crumb maybe gets drafted their quarterback probably

513
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: have to look pretty good here and have you know,

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Speaker 2: good combine and stuff. For Wyoming, Chad MoMA their linebacker,

515
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Speaker 2: definitely getting drafted, Xavieran Validate their running back probably, and

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Speaker 2: Logan Harris a guard is a possibility as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, First go ball UTSA two and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorites first twenty fourth ranks. San Diego State fifty

519
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: is the number on this one. Bogs is the wrong

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00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: team favorite here.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so this is It's a good question

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00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: to ask because this is this is definitely the best

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Speaker 2: game we've talked about up to this point. The TSA

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Speaker 2: ver San Diego State. UTSA isn't playing their best ball.

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00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: Not on the back half of the season. They didn't,

526
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Speaker 2: but they played close against Southern Miss. They were ten

527
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Speaker 2: point winner as thirty three point favorites. They straight up

528
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: lost to North Texas. But I still think that they're

529
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Speaker 2: a better overall squad than San Diego State. The Astacs

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00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: play ball control, running a great defense, and field position.

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Speaker 2: Their best weapon is their punter, Matta Razia, who just

532
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: won the Ray Guy Award and is going to get drafted,

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Speaker 2: probably in the fourth round. By the way, this punter

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00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: he is out, I've seen him, right, Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: punter of note for sure, right right exactly. You know

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Speaker 2: one comes around every four or five years. This is

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Speaker 2: the punter of note for this half decade here. So,

538
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: but I think UTSA got back to clicking on offense

539
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: during the Conference USA Championship where they beat Western Kentucky

540
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Speaker 2: and outscored them forty eight to forty one.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Not that you know, they have a good defense at

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Speaker 2: Western Kentucky, but UTSA had been kind of puttering on

544
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Speaker 2: offense before winning the Conference USA. They put up forty

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Speaker 2: nine points, five hundred and fifty yards, So thank you.

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Speaker 2: UTSA will just have a little bit too much on offense.

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00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna roll with them and lay the two

548
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: and a half. Not a lot of pro prospects here

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00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: for UTSA. Good team, but Sincere McCormick is a maybe

550
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: at running back, a Treek wool in their corner could

551
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: get drafted. Cameron Thomas for San Diego State. Their ed

552
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: rush are definitely gonna get drafted, and so is matter Rasia,

553
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: but probably nobody else on that team.

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Speaker 1: All right, last one here, Army. I'm sure we'll try

555
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Speaker 1: to run the ball into the ground here in the

556
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Speaker 1: Armed Forces Bowl against Missouri. Army is three and a

557
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Speaker 1: half point favorites against Missouri and fifty eight is the

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Speaker 1: over under Bogs. I would tend towards the under in

559
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Speaker 1: this game, but you're the expert. So what are your

560
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Speaker 1: thoughts on Army in Missouri?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this game boils down to if Missouri can

562
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Speaker 2: stop Army's rushing attack at all, because that's all they got, right,

563
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: sixty one rushes a game, they're not going to be

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Speaker 2: throwing it.

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Speaker 3: And Missouri ranks one hundred.

566
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Speaker 1: And twenty story of that Bill's Patriots game from last Monday.

567
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: Right right exactly.

568
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think we'll get that weather in

569
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Speaker 2: the Armed Forces Ball here, you're like, leve the helmets.

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Speaker 1: This is the ball game for you, folks.

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Speaker 2: Missouri ranks one hundred and twenty fourth in the country

572
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: against the run, allowing two hundred and thirty yards per

573
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Speaker 2: game on the ground. Army second in the nation two

574
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight yards per game on the ground.

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Speaker 2: This is the miss This mismatch is all I need,

576
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna take Army. I think they'll control the clock,

577
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: which is going to pressure Missouri to make plays quickly,

578
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: and it could force them into some uncharacteristic mistakes here.

579
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: They only turn the ball over once per game, twelve

580
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: turnovers the whole year for Missouri, which is outstanding, especially

581
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: playing in the SEC. And you know this number two

582
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: being one hundred and twenty fourth in the nation against

583
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: the run, playing a lot of SEC teams, which is

584
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: stronger offensive lines, So I think that makes it seem

585
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: a little bit better than it might be. But I'm

586
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: gonna take Army in their rushing attack here. The Army

587
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: has no pro prospects, you know, like they usually don't

588
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: for Missouri. Caleb Evans their corner, Ali greena corner, Kobe

589
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: Whiteside an offensive tackle, and Tyler Batty their star running back.

590
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: All could be drafted.

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Speaker 1: All right, make sure you head over to betting to

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Speaker 1: look at all the consensus lines from all the different

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Speaker 1: betting houses and you can make your wagers there. And

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Speaker 1: of course, check out all of Scott Bogmin's great work

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Speaker 1: at Bettingpros dot com as well. In the meantime, you

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Speaker 1: NFL side, on the college football side. Before you know it,

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Speaker 1: baseball will be back, I think. So. I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on here over on Betting Pros

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Speaker 1: and this is just part one of our Bowl series.

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Speaker 1: Maybe when we come back next week there will be

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Speaker 1: a Bowl game named after me. I cannot confirm or

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Speaker 1: deny this. We shall see what happens as time goes on,

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Speaker 1: but Bogman and I will be back again regardless to

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Speaker 1: do it all again for the next group of bowl games,

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Speaker 1: which have some bigger teams for sure in them, so

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Speaker 1: very exciting stuff going on there. So have a great

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Speaker 1: holiday for those of you who are listening, and hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy everything going on here with Betting Pros and

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Speaker 1: hopefully your football seasons have gone very well. And once

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Speaker 1: again that'll do it for us. But the story of

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Speaker 1: the game goes on. For Scott Bogman, I'm Joey P.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, kids, Sis