WEBVTT - Andy Levy & Rep. Suhas Subramanyam 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.119 today's best minds, and Bernie Sanders says, these are the 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.920 scariest times of my life. 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.120 We have such a great show for you today. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.239 The New Abnormal co host Andy Levy stops by to 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.239 talk about how great. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.080 Things are going with American democracy. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.920 Then we'll talk to Congressman Sujas Subramanyum, who is a 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.840 congressman with the most federal workers' cup I don't but 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:33.600 first the news, Molly. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.839 So, one of my things during the Biden administration is 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.040 everybody go, they're going to shut down the government. And 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.960 I'd say, Kevin McCarthy and Mike Johnson are owned by 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:44.479 the banks. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.560 There's no way they're going to do that. This time. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.400 We have a whole new set of rules. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.920 And Chuck Schumer, he says that setate Democrats will reject 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.920 Geopeace funding bill as the shutdown draws near. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.280 Yeah, you know, good for Chuck Schumer. A lot of 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.640 us did not think that he would do this. This 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.960 is like really an impossible situation. Democrats are in because 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.080 they don't want to shut down the whole Republican ethos 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.360 is to shut down the federal government and then kill it, right, 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.479 I mean, that's what they want to do here. They 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.720 want to cut it and cut and cut it. This 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.559 is the only thing Democrats can do at this moment. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.720 They do not control the House, they do not control 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.720 the Senate, they do not control the presidency. All they 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.440 can do is put sand in the gears for Republicans. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.920 And look this bill. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.640 I want to talk about this CR because this CR 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:42.720 has in it something that makes it so that Congress 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:43.680 will no longer. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.000 Have power over tariffs. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:50.000 You know, tariffs, the thing that's fucking our economy right now. Well, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.280 Congress is giving over its tariff power to Donald J. Trump, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.880 which is insane. Donald Trump has already stolen so much 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.600 power from this Congress. The fact that the Republicans are, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.480 like you know, Patty Hurst with Stockholm syndrome, ready to 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.040 give them anything else they have left. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.280 Is just completely crazy. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.120 And it's and again, I understand that these Republicans are 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.600 scared of Donald Trump. I understand that they have just 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.000 given up on trying to do anything but rubber stamp 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.240 his agenda. But still, this even in itself, is like 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.560 kidnapping yourself and waiting for yourself to bring ransom to yourself. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.799 It is quite silly, and I really hope that the 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.919 Democrats give them no help here whatsoever. Despite as much 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.960 as I don't want there to be a shutdown, this 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:42.760 is pathetic. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.520 You and I both agree and also think that this 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.520 is impossible, right because the thing is shutting down the 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.120 government is what the Republicans want. So if Democrats shut 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.280 down the government, they will be blamed for shutting down 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.320 the government and be deliver what Republicans want, which is 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.720 to hobble these government agencies. Even more, if I were 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.840 Chuck Schumer, which I'm very much not, Thune is not insane, right, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.400 fun is like a normal guy, and I would try 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.800 to get Thune to take the tearff stuff out and 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.000 then pass the cr. I would be like, no one 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.359 wants a government shut down here, take out the tear 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.160 off stuff. See if there's anything you can do with 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.600 the money that's an impoundment, right, See if there's anything 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.760 you can do to stop Trump from impounding money that 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.119 Congress has allocated. I would make the pitch to Thune 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.960 that we have this opportunity to put a little bit 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.440 of a break on this guy who is just running 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.560 Rockshaw over the federal government, and then see if that works, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.360 and see if you can get Thune on board with that. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.000 I do think there. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.120 Are publican senators who are pretty fed up with how 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:49.840 this is going. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.080 So I do think there's an opening there. Now. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.840 I'm not convinced that Schumor will take it, but that 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.640 would be in my mind what I would do. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.760 Yes, So I have to give the listeners some education here. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.360 We as influential people who are on podcasts, sometimes do 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.600 this thing called it we call spon con, which is 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.560 sponsored content, which means that somebody has paid us to 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:16.000 make content for their product where we sell it. But 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.880 we might just say this is sponsored by very Fast 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.080 and then you just see an ad from us, whereas 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.360 yesterday Donald Trump did sponsored content for Elot Musk, Shitty 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:26.159 Tesla Cars. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:26.839 Good point. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.880 He got one hundred million dollars for that spat con. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.120 You know how much money we've gotten for our spont 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.360 Con is not one hundred million dollars. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.119 What is our aged doing? 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.520 Joey, oh, Joey. No, it's a good point. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.520 Look, we would like to get more money for spont Con. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:46.080 This is real. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.920 This is really yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no listen. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.960 So Donald Trump sold Teslas yesterday, by the way, not 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.040 the first time my man was compared to a used 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.800 car salesman, but certainly not. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:03.160 The last, right, but the most accurate, but the. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.440 Most sort of on the nose. He was out there reading. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.520 We saw the car, you saw the Reuter's picture of 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.560 the car that had you know, this one's thirty five thousand, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:14.880 this one's forty five thousand. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.280 I think this is important. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.640 This is why I think it's important, besides the fact 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.279 that the Hatch hack to be damned, that these people 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.800 have completely given up on any kind of ethics. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.120 I mean, what might say that it took a hatchet 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:27.920 to the Hatch act. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.039 Yeah, makes Nixon look like Lincoln. But what I think 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.679 when you watch this is like, clearly Elon is worried 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.120 about Tesla. Right, his market share is way down, the 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.320 sales are way down. There's a reason that CEOs of 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:47.200 public companies don't espouse highly inflammatory political rhetoric. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:48.520 And this is why. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.440 Right because a Tesla is no longer Tesla, Tesla has 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.000 a vote for Elon, and most of the people who 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.440 buy electric cars do not love the straight armed salute. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.440 Oh that's what we're calling it now. So I think 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.120 it's a really good point that as tacky and distasteful 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.160 and immoral as this is, I think it's really important 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.760 to remember that this is also just desperate. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.360 My I do want to add some history here. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.200 I don't know if you remember, all the way back 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.040 to the campaign when Donald Trump was doing all this 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.479 podcasts that a influencer on the right named Aiden Ross 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.320 with very questionable views gave Donald Trump a cyber truck 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.840 with the assassination attempt as a rapper on it. But 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:34.160 then Donald Trump couldn't accept it because of FEC violations. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.360 He actually listened to the law for what's there. But 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.680 so that now Donald Trump has bought a ninety thousand 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:44.000 dollars Tesla with thirty seven recall notices. It gets it cuts, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.520 that's what you're getting when you're getting the Tesla. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:46.960 Baby. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.560 Yeah, I don't know about that, but that does not 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:50.560 sound good. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.599 So as well, since we're not done with all the 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.440 favors Donald Trump is doing for first buddy Elon, if 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.880 you vandalized Tesla property, the White House will prosecute you 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.200 as a domestic terrorist. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.559 Yeah, of course, does this surprise you at all. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.200 It does not surprise me at all. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.080 So President Donald Trump warren protesters targeting eln Musk that 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.920 his administration will treat any attack on a Tesla company 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.720 as an act of domestic terrorism against the United States. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:19.720 That makes no sense. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.440 Standing on White House the White House lawn, next to 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.360 a line of Tesla's and flanked by Musk, nodding in 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:30.680 agreement and likely wearing a ridiculous hat, Trump vowed to 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.240 bring the full power of his office to bear on 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.840 anyone breaking the law in an effort to interfere with 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.880 his administration's official cost cutter in chief. Those people are 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.640 going through a big problem. When we catch them, they're 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.520 going through a big problem. They're harming a great American company. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.400 Tesla's become a lightning rod for anti Musk sentiment. We 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.640 already know who some of them are. Trump said, I 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.880 don't know. His quotes are always amazing. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.400 I think they're gonna go for the people who have 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:08.000 organized this Tesla takedown protest. But this is coming after 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.480 people for protesting it. I have to say, if you 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.600 go out after people for protesting Tesla, x's next, and 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.800 there's a lot of vulnerabilities. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.240 There the whole thing is completely insane. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:18.520 It's insane. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.680 Andy Levy is the co host of The Daily Beasts, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.320 The New of Normal. Hello Andy Levy. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:28.680 Hello, Molly john Fast. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.880 Here we are back again. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.440 How many years has it been since we've been on 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:34.400 a podcast together? 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.360 Two years, three years, seventeen? 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.160 I think seventeen years. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.000 Yeah, no, I think it was two years ago, two 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.320 and a half. Maybe I don't know. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.320 I don't know, but a lot has gone wrong since then. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.640 Things have not gone great. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.719 Are you saying it can be traced to that? 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.880 Yes, obviously the two of us not being podcasting together 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.440 is why by laws and why Harris lost, and why 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.640 Donald Trump has somehow gotten reelected yet again. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.480 I heard about that. Yeah, is this your fault? 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.280 It's our fault. It's our collective fault. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.560 Well, I mean, if you want to get technical, I'm 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.360 not the one who left the other. Oh, so it's 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:18.960 your fault, is what I'm saying. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.000 Yes, Okay, So Jesse wants us to talk about what's 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.480 going on right now, or at least I feel him 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:30.320 getting agitated. We communicate with telepathy. As far as I 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.280 can tell. Trade wars are good and easy to win discuss. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:39.439 Yeah, especially when you start and stop them every weeks. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:46.280 Well, when they're driven largely by mood, markets love uncertainty. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:52.400 We're in a vibe war and I'm not. And the vibes, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.319 the vibes are bad, and the vibes are bad. 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:00.600 It is absolutely wild and just every day I have 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.160 to wake up and see if the prices of my 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.880 electronics are going to go up by twenty to twenty 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:06.800 five percent or not. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:07.760 I have no idea. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.720 And I love that there's all this push to blame 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.400 all of this on Howard Litnik. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.440 I cannot believe you're defending Howard Lutnik, But go on, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.120 I want you to defend him so I can debunk you. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.360 Oh, I would never defend him. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.160 I just always find it hilarious when one of these 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.000 schmucks gets involved at a high level with. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.319 Donald Trump and thinks that it's going to end up 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:31.040 well for them. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.720 Oh, yes, no, for sure. I mean we are watching 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:34.640 this man devolve. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.280 I actually watch this morning a clip on Fox from 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:43.320 Fox Business. You are a veteran from the cable news Wars. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:49.240 I am still fighting myself, you know, with my little pig. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.600 I'm on disability from the cable news Wars. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.920 You're at the VA getting your cable news. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.480 When I'm watching him. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.880 He did this thing where he was talking to one 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:07.640 of these anchors that looks like Larry Cudlow, but isn't right, right, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.720 the guy who's like the British Larry Cudlow. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.240 You know that guy, Stuart Varney. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.679 Yes, Stuart Varney. Yeah, you know him really well, right, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:16.679 like you did a show with him. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.880 I was a guest on his show several times. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.520 Yes, I apologize, I mean, and by I mean apologize, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.120 I apologize that I made you say that. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:25.599 Yeah, other people to hear it. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.640 So you hear Lutnick talking, you can almost hear like 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.920 normal for a minute, and then he breaks into Donald Trumps, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.600 the strongest, greatest leader ever and he knows everything, and 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.920 you're like, oh, yes, North Korea, we live here now. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.680 My favorite thing was so there was a Politico article 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.760 I think got Tuesday talking about how everyone is blaming 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.400 Lutnik now, and one. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.880 Of the things it said that the people around Trump. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.319 Are exasperated with Lutnick because his television appearances suggest a 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.440 lack of understanding of even the basics about hows and 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.760 the economy work. And I thought, well, yeah, but I 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.840 think as opposed to Trump. Right, it's just absolutely wild 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.480 that all of these people think that they are the 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.559 chosen ones and that they are in the inner circle, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.960 and they are every single one of them is literally 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.280 thirty seconds like Trump, if he gets a bad burger 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.280 at McDonald's, your ass could be gone. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:25.760 Oh, no question. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.559 I mean, but I do have to say watching Lutnik, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.679 it's true, and I think we need to have another 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.880 second to just talk about what you just said, because 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.000 I think it's really important. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:35.240 Right. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.000 No one remembers twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. Nobody remembers 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.439 those four years. Like we're sitting there going like you 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.120 got Lutnik, you got Elon jumping up and down with 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.640 his shirt riding up. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.440 Just get him longer T shirts. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.839 I don't know what wife he's on, but whoever you are, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.520 just get him longer T shirts. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.400 This is not is a very solvable problem. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.679 I think he has nothing but xes now. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.200 And you know, exes may not be the ones who 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.280 want to tell him to make himself look better. So 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.120 I feel like this might be a little conspiracy among 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.680 his exes. Maybe they maybe they're actually telling him no, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.920 the short T shirt looks good on you. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.880 The only bright spot in our current crisis, our current 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:27.079 whatever this is, our gentle slide into authoritarianism, is that 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.200 the ex wives are having the I mean, they're not 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.480 having the last left, because no one is having the 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.720 last left as far as I can tell. But the 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.040 ex wives are at least like you see all this 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.360 sort of billionaire x wives, or at least like sort 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.040 of doing nice things with their money. You could sort 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.960 of feel the relief that they don't have to be 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:46.199 married to those people anymore. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.559 Yeah, except you know, they would like to get child 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:49.800 support apparently in that. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.600 Well yeah, well those are Elon's X wives. I'm thinking 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.160 you have more like Bezos's X wives. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:59.080 Gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's interesting 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.600 to think about Elon. Is like when we talk about 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.360 the people who get close to Trump and then get 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.080 burned and next her on the outs. I've been thinking 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.520 lately that it might be too late for Trump to 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.880 try to get rid of Musk. Like Musk I think 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.319 may have more power than him at this point. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:20.480 Well, that is the real I was gonna say, Sophie's choice, Yeah, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.240 but it feels too close to home. So I'm going 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.720 to say, that's the real problem, right, because the only 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.840 thing that makes me think that maybe Trump could get 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:34.840 rid of Elon and not vice versa is that Elon 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.640 is just his stock is cratering, right, Like he's losing 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.320 percentages of his net worth every day. And like the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.440 fact that they had a Tesla, that they've turned the 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.160 White House into a Tesla showroom. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.520 That is because Elon. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.960 Is real worried, right, Like, you don't do that if 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:54.880 things are going great. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.080 No, of course not. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.880 But the fact that Trump did that for him, like 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.360 makes me think, I think this is the kind of 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.400 power that Musk has over Trump. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.040 At this point. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.640 He can basically say to Trump, you know, hey, you 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.920 need to do a sales pitch for my car. I 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.920 think about all the data that Musk now has access to. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.520 Through his little doge cribs. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.720 Yeah, and it just makes me think, you know, he's 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.320 got like like information is power, and he now has 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.440 access to all this information about so many people. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.520 And it just makes me wonder if like Trump. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.280 Advisors can get pissed at Elon all they want. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.760 And I just don't know. He may. He may. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.480 The scheming vizier may have too much power for the 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.120 emperor to get rid of him. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.560 I want to go back, though, to the Tesla showroom 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.480 white house thing per second, not just because I think 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.480 it's very pithy, but because if you look at the 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.560 Trump Tesla situation, it was like a very clear quid 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.080 pro quoil. Right by the way, if you guys can 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.920 find the picture that he has written down where he's like, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.960 that's amazing, it's amazing. This car is the model t 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.480 is thirty three thousand, the model as is. I mean 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.200 literally somebody wrote down for him how much these cars cost. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.160 But at the exact same time he did that, Elon 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.000 said He's going to do another one hundred million for 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.960 Trump's political organization. So I do think like Donald Trump 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.040 is and this is the electeds who have been able, 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.640 the state heads who have been able to figure out 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.680 how to deal with him, have done this thing where 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.880 they have, you know, you suck up to him and 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:35.960 then you offer him stuff. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.480 So like the fact that Trump did. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.960 This for Elon, in my mind, this is like just 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.320 what he does, like very transactional, so that I don't 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:49.480 think is necessarily as much of a tell. And remember, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.320 like Trump knows that he needs Elon to stay solvent right, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:58.360 because that's how he runs his organization. And remember, like yesterday, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.080 all of these Republicans voted for the CR right, they 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.520 voted for a CR. And the way that Mike Johnson, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.520 who is not a vote whipper, who basically cannot do 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.040 as far as I can tell any math who has 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.119 failed and failed and failed again on votes right, like 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.080 even rules votes, the way he got to the number 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.640 he needed with his very razor thin one seat majority 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.280 was that Trump and Elon. Maybe not Elon, but certainly 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.720 Trump and his people have whipped votes for Mike Johnson, 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.840 like we keep seeing this happen, right, And the way 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.959 they whip those votes is by bullying these people and 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.840 saying like, if you don't vote for this, we're going 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.560 to you know who knows, right, But part of it 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.440 is we're going to fund primary challenges. I do think 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.000 that like Trump sees that Elon's money is critical for 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.879 this organization, which I guess makes your point. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.719 Yeah, no, exactly. You know. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.119 My point is that I wonder, and I'm not saying 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.960 it's true, but I just I have started to wonder 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.840 if Trump needs Elon or is Enthrall to Elon more 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.560 than Elon is enthrall to Trump at this point. And yeah, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.600 you talked about the threats and everything. I mean, look 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.880 at what's going on with you know, poor Thomas Massey. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.800 That's a sentence that no sentence has ever been more cursed. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.160 I mean we should just like you should just wash 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:23.800 your mouth. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.600 That was so. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:26.960 I'm actually wearing a T shirt that says. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.600 Poor Thomas math Yes, a cursed T shirt. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:35.560 It's like the start of a poem, Yes, a bad poem. Yeah, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.280 but this is a guy, deranged right winger who has 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:39.920 been there. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:41.879 His wife wrote. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.439 A mass he died this year, and I think he 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.440 said something to the effect of, like that was sort 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:54.040 of so incredibly weirdly just so crushingly awful. Yesterday, my 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.880 high school sweetheart, the love of my life for over 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.240 thirty five years, the loving mother of our four children. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.520 Oh that's too many, the smartest kind of woman I've 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.960 ever known, my beautiful and wise queen forever went to heaven. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.160 I think he's like not doing great. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.840 Like I think he's had a very tough I mean, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.080 we're really feeling bad for Thomas Massey here. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.280 But I was going to say, so, you're you're saying 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:13.399 poor Thomas Massey. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.919 I kind of feel bad for him. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.800 Also, Thomas Mansey, like you know, he went to Mit, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.320 he had solar powd. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.959 I don't know. Let's not go down this rabbit hole anyway, 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:23.440 go on. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.760 Yes, continue so well, no, now that apparently we have 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.880 to be nice to Thomas Matthew, I don't even want 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:29.280 to go on. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.639 I mean the point is that he's actually being really 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.760 treated terribly as everyone is. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.960 Yeah, and this again is going back to the Lutnik 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:37.960 thing that we started off with. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.640 It's the same playbook. It's like, you know, you could 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:41.080 be with. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.160 Them one thousand percent, and the second you deviate from something, 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:50.560 or the second someone decides that you're upstaging Trump or 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:51.560 whatever they. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.560 Do again having your own feelings. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.560 The Fries didn't have enough salt on them. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.840 So he's he's angry and they turn on you, and 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.880 you see it online. I mean, I'm not on Twitter anymore, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.479