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Speaker 1: Iheartradios live coverage of twenty twenty five Steelers training camp.

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Speaker 3: Coming down the home stretch of practice here for your

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. Another team period here moving from left to

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Speaker 3: right as Aaron Rodgers exits after a few reps, and

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Speaker 3: now Skyler Thompson will check in. Matt, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: ask you.

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Speaker 2: Us it's a new heart throb of the city.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you used to.

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Speaker 5: Never be able to say anything bad about Will Howard.

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Speaker 5: Now if you mentioned anything bad about Skyler, get your

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Speaker 5: head bitten off.

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Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody in Pittsburgh sports is more popular than the

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback who has not yet played meaningful time for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. I remember, I remember as a kid it

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Speaker 3: was Brian Saint Pierre. You know what all these different

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Speaker 3: people that I mean, heck, for a long time, it

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Speaker 3: was Kenny Pickett, you know what I mean, until until

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Speaker 3: he ended up being the guy like now it's Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: There was nobody in Pittsburgh sports. Sorry Troy Polamalu, Sorry Sidney, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: sorry Sidney Crosby. Nobody in Pittsburgh sports. It's more popular

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Speaker 3: than the backup Steelers quarterback who has yet to play

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Speaker 3: meaningful action.

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Speaker 2: For the Black Killer.

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Speaker 3: Now they can turn very quickly, but it's a good

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Speaker 3: place to be. Why you could get it? Uh, Matt,

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to ask you. One of the things

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Speaker 3: that I had in my you know, very extensive notes.

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Speaker 3: I do a ton of show prep before you sit down.

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Speaker 3: It was about Scotty Miller and we saw him catch

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Speaker 3: a nice pass there from Rogers at the start of

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Speaker 3: team period over the middle of the field. That made

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Speaker 3: me think of this, what do you think his case

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Speaker 3: is for a roster spot. He's intriguing one.

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Speaker 5: He's an intriguing one to me. So I think the

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Speaker 5: same is true for and this isn't gonna sound great,

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Speaker 5: and it isn't great, but for Rock Taylor and Hurlman

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Speaker 5: and Eleven Johnson. I mean, all those dudes are all

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Speaker 5: trying to make a case, and there's not a lot

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Speaker 5: of spots available, and we'll make a big fuss out

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Speaker 5: of it, and our listeners will be on the edge

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Speaker 5: of the seat and all of their opinion over these

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Speaker 5: next couple of weeks as well. But when it's all

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Speaker 5: said and done, and one of those fellas makes the team,

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Speaker 5: and this is true for Miller who's been in the league,

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Speaker 5: as well as Hurlman, who I'm excited about, and the

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Speaker 5: other two I know there's excitement too. And Johnson played

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Speaker 5: some meaningful snaps actually pretty high up on the depth chart,

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Speaker 5: which I think is noticeable. And I'm not saying they

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Speaker 5: have no chance to be good players. But when you

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Speaker 5: get to like week four, you kind of forget about

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Speaker 5: all the camp buzz and you get to the point

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Speaker 5: where if you put those guys on the field, the

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Speaker 5: opponent says, thank you, you know what I mean, General Chefsky,

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Speaker 5: Alan Robinson, you know, like in the end, they don't.

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Speaker 5: It's not a knock on those guys, right exactly. I

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Speaker 5: just think that to some degree, I think Connor Hayward's

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Speaker 5: that guy when he's on the field on offense. Okay, good,

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Speaker 5: I'm happy he's on the field. He's not real hard

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Speaker 5: to play against, and maybe they'll prove me wrong. And

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Speaker 5: one of those four will probably go on to have

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Speaker 5: a really good career. And Miller's already been a success story.

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Speaker 5: But that's part of my logic for I'd still be

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Speaker 5: open to trading for a receiver. So none of them

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Speaker 5: make the team, and and again they're perfect examples of

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Speaker 5: I want all of them to be back here next year,

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Speaker 5: you know, for under that premise. But I think you

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Speaker 5: know what you're getting with Miller and it's fine, and

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Speaker 5: there is a toughness and a reliability and he has

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Speaker 5: some big playability, but he's smaller and he will do

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Speaker 5: hard to cut, don't get me wrong, But I don't

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Speaker 5: think boy, his career is going to get rejuvenated and

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Speaker 5: he's going to catch adye balls, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like in the end, you're probably looking to get better

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Speaker 3: And I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I think that's.

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Speaker 5: Fair because I mean, to me, you're offensively not special teams. Wise,

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Speaker 5: I want Scornic to be my worst wide receiver and he's.

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Speaker 5: Like if Pierre is my worst corner, I get it

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Speaker 5: because he's so good on special value special and the

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Speaker 5: guys ahead of Scornic where I don't think Miller's a

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Speaker 5: lot better than Scornic, but I want the guys ahead

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Speaker 5: of Skornic to be noticeably ahead of them, you know,

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Speaker 5: the Austin Wilson, Metcalf and McLaurin. Yeah, I mean, perfect wayeah.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not even implying they should trade for McLaurin.

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Speaker 5: But that's how you build a receiver room, you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean that that's a big time receiver room.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's not that's not a

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Speaker 2: good enough for him, you know, I ope, it's good enough.

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Speaker 3: I completely completely agree. Yeah, Like, you're right. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that cutting him is easy.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, he very well can make the team,

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Speaker 5: and if I build my fifty three, he's got a

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Speaker 5: good chance to be on it.

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Speaker 2: But I would rather that be Christian Kirk. You know,

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: I am with you on that one certainly.

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Speaker 5: Or next year, is that your second round pick? You know,

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Speaker 5: something like that that has a six or three dude

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Speaker 5: that runs a four to four that has work to do.

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Speaker 3: You know, it looks like we are in a hurry

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Speaker 3: up offense situation for the ones. Here is Rogers fines

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Speaker 3: Metcalf for a quick first down. Let's stick with this here,

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Speaker 3: Matt before we get into.

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Speaker 2: Total unblocked pressure.

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Speaker 3: There, that's your sacker, a throwaway throwaway as the clock

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Speaker 3: will stop momentarily, we'll get into these quarterback tiers here

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Speaker 3: and just a miss the Aaron Rodgers ranks and what

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Speaker 3: we agree with what we don't disagree with from the always.

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Speaker 3: I think very good Mike Sando quarterback tiers that he

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Speaker 3: does around this time every single year.

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Speaker 2: I know Mike well used.

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Speaker 5: I worked with him at ESPN for ten years, see

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Speaker 5: him at several Yeah, I mean I consider him a friend,

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Speaker 5: a friend on Facebook, blah blah blah, and that's a

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Speaker 5: big ordeal. His quarterback tiers are really well sought out.

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Speaker 5: He's like the ultimate professional. I'm a big Sando believer.

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Speaker 3: I agree. Uh, it's funny. We like a lot of

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Speaker 3: like the the Dame Bruglers, the Mike Sandos. I think

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Speaker 3: the athletics done a good job of consolidating those guys

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Speaker 3: as another quick here hit her here to chronicle move

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Speaker 3: the chains for the offense. They're now in plus territory

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Speaker 3: at the thirty five with a fresh set of downs.

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Speaker 3: Roger's still operating from the shotgun throws right and another.

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Speaker 2: Quicken yards there six to seven yard.

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Speaker 3: And this could also be one of those we needed

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Speaker 3: to get in a field goal situation type. Yeah, like

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Speaker 3: we don't know exactly.

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Speaker 2: If they're down five or if they're down two.

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Speaker 3: Right right, we don't know exactly what the and a

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Speaker 3: half situation.

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Speaker 2: Hurry up, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly right. I was trying to see, like if

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Speaker 3: they had Ben Sall's on standby, you know, ready to

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Speaker 3: run in exactly right. But I do not see twenty

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Speaker 3: nine lingering anywhere close to the playing field here. All

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Speaker 3: the special teams guys are. They're standing over there on

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Speaker 3: the sideline, so I guess not from the action. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Of scrimmage too, so yeah, probably they might.

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Speaker 3: Be actually yeah, Rogers second and four here operating from

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Speaker 3: the shotgun. Trio wide receivers to the left, goes that

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Speaker 3: way to Scotty Miller, who's able to get out of

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Speaker 3: bounce and pass the sticks for a first.

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Speaker 2: Down probably like six seconds of clock.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you'll take that. You'll take that in this in

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Speaker 3: this situation here as DK Metcalfe will check back in,

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Speaker 3: offense will huddle up. Now with the clock stopped, with

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Speaker 3: Scotty Miller getting out of bounds, we'll see. We've seen

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Speaker 3: this a couple of times in Camp Matt where the

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Speaker 3: first team has done a good job of working their

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Speaker 3: or throw an interception, or.

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Speaker 5: They've had two thirds or four fifths of a really

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Speaker 5: good drive, and then in the end the defense makes

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Speaker 5: a play you know.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right. So we will see if they can finish

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Speaker 3: the job.

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Speaker 5: Defense turnovers, Baton passes that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: Rogers under center now to give to Jalen Warren. He

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Speaker 3: will bounce around and fall.

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Speaker 2: Forward another way get cheap yards.

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Speaker 5: I assume that he calls knew that with the time

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Speaker 5: is exactly how this is looking exactly right, and it

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Speaker 5: looks like spend for to get in field right to

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Speaker 5: get field goal range. I think it was mission accomplished.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think so as it looks like.

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Speaker 2: They don't even bother kicking it.

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Speaker 3: They're not even going to bother.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think now they're going to change sides

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Speaker 3: and run it back with the second team. We'll continue

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Speaker 3: to keep you posted with some observations. But what do

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Speaker 3: you say we get into some of this quarterback team.

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Speaker 5: Second team has done well in these hurry ups. They

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Speaker 5: have Skyler. Skyler and Rudolph both have orchestrated good drives.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you up here in with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys like Harlman and Robert Wood have I think

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Speaker 5: It's hard to be on the same page in a

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Speaker 5: hurry up. It absolutely you can tell the experience of

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Speaker 5: Rudolph and Tyler or Skyler did some good stuff with

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Speaker 3: He absolutely did. Let's see here, we'll just do a

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Speaker 3: quick check. See if our guy Pete is still operating.

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Speaker 3: That's a left guard left It looks like it because

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Speaker 3: he's standing.

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Speaker 2: He's out there.

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Speaker 3: I think he's standing in the left guard. No, he's

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Speaker 3: back at tackle.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think he's out there.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not out there. You are correct, he's standing

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Speaker 3: right here on the sideline in front of us. Part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always in a different spot to find.

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Speaker 3: Always in a in a different spot out there is Okay, it's.

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Speaker 2: Close enough that he might run out there and get

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll we'll have to keep an eye on that,

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Speaker 3: certainly as Co one two, Robert Woods. All right, Matt

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Speaker 3: quarterback tears. Let's get into this a little bit again.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't really looked at these. I'm excited to again.

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Speaker 3: Well number one. Uh and, and there's five tiers of

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Speaker 3: quarter So that's how this is broken down. Yeah, there

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Speaker 5: That's the definition of a Tier one quarterback that Sando

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Speaker 2: And those type of things.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what they say. I think Mahomes is the

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Speaker 2: One offense, I think Mahomes the best quarterback they ever lived.

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Speaker 3: One offensive coordinator in the AFC said that last year

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Speaker 3: Everyone talked about the Chiefs like they took some massive

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Speaker 5: Uh, the Bills and Ravens in the AFC, and you

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Speaker 3: A defensive coordinator in the AFC, West said, criticizing him

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Speaker 5: I mean, what's crazy about Mahomes And this is a

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Speaker 2: I mean efficient, I.

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Speaker 3: Think officient is a very good year, very good word

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Speaker 2: He would be my fourth. I think there's four superstars.

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Speaker 3: There's four superstars, without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the little I did see, I think more

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Speaker 3: There are more than here in Tier one. But yes,

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Speaker 5: It's pretty good. We mentioned earlier in the show. I

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's number two in the first tier.

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Speaker 3: You would have them two and three and then they

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Speaker 5: Mahomes is clear one, Burrows pretty clearly four and the

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Speaker 3: Right, you like their godfather that departed more right?

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Speaker 2: And these are the top four clearly and they're awesome.

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Speaker 3: The answers that departed by the way, Josh Allen number

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Speaker 3: three toughest quarterback to defend in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Understand that Dale and I went back and forth about

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Speaker 5: Rocky Road. There's no there's no wrong answer there. Dale

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Speaker 5: I thought Lamar should win it. I thought Lamar had

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Speaker 5: I mean, they don't have Justin Jefferson or even on defense,

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Speaker 5: guy that just keeps you up at night, except for him,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, And man, does he keep you up at

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Speaker 5: Yes, but he's become way more surgical, way more surgical.

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Speaker 5: And another thing that's huge is we've talked about this

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Speaker 3: He's gotten rid of the hero ball stuff. Doesn't take sacks,

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Speaker 3: doesn't turn it over. That's why he won his MVP.

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Speaker 3: Last year's remarkable Lamar number four. Still in the first year,

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Speaker 5: He has grown by leaps and bounds as a pocket passer,

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Speaker 3: I think he's so under rated in that regard. Last

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Speaker 3: His sack rate when dropping back just four point six percent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but his pure pocket stuff is so much better

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Speaker 3: I completely completely agree. Only Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 5: So here's a weird conversation, like when you start building

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Speaker 5: don't think Burrows yet to that point, although he has

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Speaker 5: But I think Alan and Lamar need to be I

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Speaker 5: this space switch because the one's a raven. Are they

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Speaker 3: No? I mean, but there's also a reason why we

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, and that is something to do

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Speaker 3: I completely agree. And I know this is a little

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Speaker 3: this is not exactly this is not exactly what you

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Speaker 3: the unanimous goat.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And so I think, especially for quarterback.

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Speaker 5: At that position, it means more than defensive tackle. You know,

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Speaker 3: It means more to me than it does for Paul Skins.

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Speaker 3: It means more to me than it does for Sidney Crosby.

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Speaker 3: Like you are the quarterback man, that ball is in

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Speaker 3: To me, when you're splitting hairs ten years from now,

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Speaker 5: It does, I mean, there's no question about it. That

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Speaker 3: And again, there's nuance to that argument. I'm not just

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Speaker 5: But during this era, during the Chief's dominant era, let's

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Speaker 3: Destroys, best playoff quarterback of all time. All you just

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Speaker 5: So like, I know, oh, they haven't won the Big One,

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Speaker 5: like post in a perfect game and lose, Right, you

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: I let up two walks and you know that was

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Speaker 3: Still and I completely agree. Still in tier number one.

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Speaker 2: See that's where tier one would end for the.

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Speaker 3: Same here, same here, but still in tier number one.

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Speaker 3: Ranked fifth is Matthew Stafford. I like his ranking at

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Speaker 2: Like I think he's probably the best NFC quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I just every time that I turned on

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Speaker 3: He at thirty seven years old, still has it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Now he's fighting a back thing right now. And one

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Speaker 5: All quarterbacks at that age, including Ben, including Rogers, and

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Speaker 3: Makes sense.

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Speaker 5: He's just not thriving under pressure as much as he

443
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Speaker 5: used to, you know, And that happens to all these

444
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Speaker 5: guys late in life.

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Speaker 2: Unless your name's Tom Brady.

446
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Speaker 3: No doubt. So that's it for Tier one. Okay, So

447
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: that's it.

448
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Speaker 2: I can live with him, and I can't.

449
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Speaker 3: I can too. I thought it was when I first

450
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Speaker 3: looked at it, I thought it was a few more

451
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Speaker 3: as well. But I can live with it. I'd still

452
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Speaker 3: probably have.

453
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Speaker 2: A great body of work he's going, no doubt, and I.

454
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Speaker 3: Would probably have him leading off Tier two. But I'm

455
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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not, you know, upset about it. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: Tier two now sixth overall. Jaden Daniels.

457
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Speaker 2: I don't know a problem with that.

458
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Speaker 3: I don't either. Might be a little too early, but

459
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Speaker 3: basically what he did last season, I don't have a

460
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: problem with it right now.

461
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Speaker 5: Like Stroud was in that neighborhood last year after his

462
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Speaker 5: rookie year, and it's hard to stay there and from

463
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Speaker 5: year one to year two. Frankly, my number five behind

464
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 5: the super four would be Herbert, but I understand both

465
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Speaker 5: these guys being right there.

466
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Speaker 3: And Herbert seven not too far off right behind Daniels.

467
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: In Tier two, hers was super impressive.

468
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: Like he was. He absolutely was an.

469
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Speaker 2: Organization around nonsense. It was quarterback stuff.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Herbert seven. Jared Goff number.

471
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Speaker 2: Eight, No you're gonna lose me a little.

472
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Speaker 5: Still in Tier two, wins a lot of games, and

473
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 5: now system quarterback is like possession receiver. People look at

474
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 5: that as such a negative.

475
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: And it shouldn't be.

476
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Speaker 5: I agree, but he I don't think he elevates those around.

477
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he was in a perfect environment

478
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Speaker 5: for him, and I am gonna ding him a little

479
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 5: bit for that. Been really successful though, I mean really

480
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 5: really good with the Lions. I just seem more athleticism,

481
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 5: more playmakers, staff.

482
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Speaker 3: I agree, higher ceiling. Yeah, so he's at number eight.

483
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: Stroud is at number nine, still in Tier two, Okay.

484
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Speaker 5: I mean Goff had a better year than Stroud and

485
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 5: has a better body of war, But I mean I

486
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 5: would probably prefer Stroud.

487
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: I think so too. And hey, he's still just twenty

488
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: three years old with two years of experience already. But

489
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Speaker 3: it's time for him to really show it and take

490
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Speaker 3: a clear step forward this season.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you will.

492
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Speaker 5: And worries me that the AFC might have another guy

493
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Speaker 5: that's like the top five.

494
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Speaker 3: I know, dude, it's crazy.

495
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know that it's crazy to think

496
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Speaker 5: if we do this a year from now, the top

497
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Speaker 5: six are the super four, Herbert and Shroud.

498
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, they're all on the freaking AFC.

499
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: Right, maybe, but like maybe seven in.

500
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Speaker 2: The takes a step back people around him that.

501
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Speaker 3: Do on me, Matt Will, I think you're right there happening.

502
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Speaker 3: Number nine. Let's get in the top ten here and

503
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Speaker 3: then we'll take a break. Number nine. I think probably

504
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Speaker 3: if you asked everybody around the league, fans, media to

505
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Speaker 3: make their list of top quarterbacks, maybe the guy who

506
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: has the most range of highest and lowest Jalen Hurt,

507
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion.

508
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm more on the downside of him. But

509
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 5: your point about winning and he's played his best in

510
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: the best games is super important. He is very difficult

511
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: to play against. But his regular season wasn't that great.

512
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Speaker 3: It was last year, it wasn't.

513
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it really was lackluster.

514
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Speaker 3: Remember like halfway through the season there was all that

515
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: dust up about like are him and A. J. Brown

516
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: not getting along? And is there problems there in Philadelphia?

517
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Speaker 5: I think it was like week ten, somebody seven straight

518
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 5: games then they wanted to right right, But somebody interviewed

519
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: Brown and it was like week ten and said, well,

520
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 5: what's wrong with this?

521
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Speaker 2: Team. He said the passing the passing game right right, that'sat.

522
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Speaker 5: Actually the word he said was passing passing, Yeah, which

523
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it was him and DeVante Smiths

524
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 5: fall as much as the guy getting the ball.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a problem with him. The top ten,

526
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I think he'd be outside mine.

527
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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. Did I

528
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: did I miscount here?

529
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Speaker 4: So?

530
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Speaker 3: Seven?

531
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Speaker 1: Was?

532
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Speaker 3: I think I miscounted? Seven? Was Herbert?

533
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Speaker 2: Eight?

534
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Speaker 3: Was Golf? Nine? Was Stroud? Okay? And then hearts ten? Sorry?

535
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Speaker 3: So I I I'm messed up there with my with

536
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Speaker 3: my counting. Who leads off or who kind of wraps

537
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Speaker 3: up Tier two? Here? Where's Aaron Rodgers on this list?

538
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: We're getting close? Yeah, to from Aaron Rodgers will kind

539
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Speaker 3: of continue this conversation when we return on the other side.

540
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Speaker 3: Where's Aaron Rodgers? Who are the guys in front of him?

541
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Speaker 3: As we have a little quarterback tier conversation here post practice,

542
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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf working on the jugs machine down there. Things

543
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: a little bit quieter here today post practice, but still

544
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Speaker 3: plenty going on that we will continue to describe for

545
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Speaker 3: you as well. West Huler, Matt Williamson. It's all part

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Speaker 4: Back.

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Speaker 3: On campus here at Saint Vincent College, where Will Howard

558
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Speaker 3: continues to be the most popular man, they brought a

559
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Speaker 3: group of I think it's like a high school or

560
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Speaker 3: a middle school football team down there or something, and

561
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Speaker 3: they brought one of the guys over and the whole

562
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Speaker 3: team was going not going. We could hear Matt's like

563
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: is at Rogers And I was like, I think it's TJ. No,

564
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Speaker 3: it's Will Hired maybe, who continues to be the homecoming

565
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: king here on campus as it is mostly quiet down there,

566
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Speaker 3: John new Smith working the jugs machine, Doug Nester and

567
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: Skyler Thompson working on some center quarterback exchanges. That'll be

568
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on. How they use nestor going.

569
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Speaker 2: For some center stuff today.

570
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Speaker 3: Run if you reps at center today, Yeah, one of

571
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Speaker 3: the team periods. So something for us to search in there. Yeah,

572
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: sharping was far from perfect center in the game. Yeah,

573
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: and hey, you need that's a that's a position you

574
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: better feel confident, And that's a position you better feel

575
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: pretty secure and and everything that you're doing without a doubt.

576
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: Need some reliability there.

577
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: Back into this quarterback tiers conversation, rankings conversation.

578
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Speaker 5: Curious where Rogers ends up, So we know these rankers

579
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: have a great respect for his body.

580
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Speaker 3: Well, yes, of course, yes, we are still in tier

581
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: two eleventh overall. Baker Mayfield to the used to be

582
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: a wild man. Now he's contained.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's about right.

584
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: Might be a little rich, but he's had really good

585
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: running game, really good O line, great receivers, but he's

586
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: come on very strong.

587
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: The last couple of years with Tampa.

588
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: Agreed, I think he maybe a spot or two too high,

589
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: but I maybe he is in that eleven to fifteen

590
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: range I think is perfectly fair for him. Yes, Yes,

591
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: One thing I'll give him credit for is man, it's

592
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: like every year he's getting his offensive coordinator changed.

593
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: Now.

594
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: It was that way when he was in Cleveland. It's

595
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 3: been that way now in Tampa Bay now, different reasons.

596
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: In Cleveland, He's had a lot of change in his career.

597
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: He's had so much theme and probably one hundredth coordinator

598
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: it's insane.

599
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: So if he can continue this year to do what

600
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: he's been doing now having his third different offensive coordinator

601
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: in three years, I'll give him. I'll give him credit

602
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: for sure. Number twelve another one of those guys that

603
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: I think if you got everybody together and made their

604
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: quarterback lists, he's all over the place on those lists,

605
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: some high, some low. Dak Prescott number twelve.

606
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that bothers me that he's that low and.

607
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: You think you should be higher than twelve.

608
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: I think you should be higher than twelve. And not this.

609
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 5: Past year, but the year before he was the runner

610
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: up for MVP. I mean, he had a really really

611
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 5: good season and he was fine this year and then

612
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: he got hurt and missed a big chunk of time.

613
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 5: That he is not the athlete or the mover that

614
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: he used to be, and that definitely drags him down

615
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 5: if I were to build a list as well, because

616
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: he's not an improv dude, but he's really really good

617
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: from the neck up. I mean, all the pre snap adjustments,

618
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. I would have him ahead of Hertz.

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Speaker 3: During his tenth year already. Man, Yeah, happen quick Number thirteen,

620
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: I think he's my prediction that'll be eight next year. Okay,

622
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 5: and that guy played. He got injured really early in

623
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 5: the season, played through it, missed a little time. I

624
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 5: think he's ready to explode.

625
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: But you think he's got some vertical mobility on this.

626
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Speaker 5: List, Yeah, And I have no problem than being thirteen

627
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: for now, but I don't think he'll stay there long.

628
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: Still just twenty six years old. Man.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that hasn't played a ton of football. He sat

630
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Speaker 2: behind Rogers all that time.

631
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Speaker 3: You know, number fourteen still in tier number two here

632
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Speaker 3: rock Party.

633
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

634
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was very hard on him his

635
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: rookie year, and if you remember, that was the picket year.

636
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: They were worse the same year.

637
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Speaker 5: And I still get a heat all the time, you know,

638
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: because I said I'd rather picket after his rookie year

639
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: than Party and that sounds crazy now and I was wrong.

640
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: But wait, you get stuff wrong sometimes, man.

641
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: That happens dude this past year, though, with all the

642
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: injuries around him, you can't just say this guy's only

643
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: a product of his system. You know, he didn't have McCaffrey,

644
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: didn't have Vayuk, you know. I mean, like all those

645
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: dudes were banged up. And yes, he does benefit from

646
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: his system, but so is golf, so does Tua, So

647
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: are all these guys. If you don't, it's bad coaching

648
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: to some degree.

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Speaker 2: Totally. He's much more of a playmaker than you think.

650
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. He is the last quarterback in

651
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Speaker 3: Tier two is Brock Party at fourteen okame number fifteen

652
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: leading off Tier three Tier three is a quarterback that

653
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier run game

654
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Speaker 3: or defensive component to win. Number fifteen Kyler Murray.

655
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Speaker 2: He's one of my hardest one of the rank day

656
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: because he isn't. He isn't.

657
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 5: The The wild plays aren't as money as you think.

658
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: He has that short guy.

659
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: Problem where he doesn't throw in the middle of the field.

660
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: But there's a lot of ability there, and there's he

661
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: can be definitely difficult to play against too. He an

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Speaker 5: injury or a year or so ago. I think it

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Speaker 5: was to his throwing arm and his deep balls really

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Speaker 5: falling off. Sense, But he could go up to nine,

665
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Speaker 5: or he could be the staff might get sick of

666
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Speaker 5: him and want to draft the guy. I don't know

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Speaker 5: where to put him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another interesting one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen, tough one.

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Speaker 5: And then at number sixteen, So I guess it's number

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Speaker 5: one on tier three.

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Speaker 2: I'm probably two.

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Speaker 3: On tier right, Sorry, no number one, sorry, because brock

674
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Speaker 3: Party was last at tier two.

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Speaker 2: Yes, just about right then, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think that when you put it that way, that

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Speaker 3: does make it right behind him at number sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, Okay, I thought he'd be lower, to be

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Speaker 5: honest with you, Yeah, I got no problem with it.

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Speaker 3: He can't be dynamic like he was, but he could

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Speaker 3: still play. You are hoping for Brent Farma in the

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings, but they had Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin and

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Speaker 3: a bunch of dudes. One NFL executive said, understood. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's see.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: Fell down four spots in this year's rankings.

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Speaker 5: It looks like I remember him being a really hard

688
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Speaker 5: one to rank a year go, coming off an injury,

689
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Speaker 5: would do anything, and he still was an advanced age.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, what is he sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Did you say sixteen? Who's on his heels?

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Speaker 5: Is that what you want to No, if he ends

693
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Speaker 5: up the if he plays as the sixteenth best quarterback

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Speaker 5: in the twenty twenty five NFL season, are you taking

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Speaker 5: that or would you door number two?

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Speaker 3: I'm taking it. Don't even have to think about when

697
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: was the last time the Steelers had a top half

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Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL? Millionaires and they've still gone to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs for the last five years, right.

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Speaker 5: And I think if he would be that guy, there's

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Speaker 5: probably two or three games where you go, oh, he

702
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Speaker 5: was on fire.

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Speaker 3: Then totally, and maybe two or three where he's not

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 2: But exactly, but two or three anyways.

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Speaker 3: Or right, maybe you go beat somebody, you know, you

707
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Speaker 3: go to Detroit in December and he puts on a

708
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Speaker 3: show against that defense or something and you're like, wow,

709
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: look at that, he still has it.

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Speaker 5: I do think the top ten stuff is probably out

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Speaker 5: of the realm of possibility. But I also think he

712
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Speaker 5: could be better than sixteen.

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Speaker 3: He's in the eleven to fifteen range.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, sign me up team to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they will be a playoff contender for sure, But

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Speaker 5: I think I would take sixteen seventeen another.

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Speaker 3: And this is kind of that range where they get

718
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Speaker 3: hard to rank, and there's a lot to like, and

719
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Speaker 3: and and plenty of negatives as well too. Tua is

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Speaker 3: at seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he would not fit every system at all, but

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Speaker 5: he's great for what they do. He's an immaculate processor.

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Speaker 5: The ball comes out.

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Speaker 3: Say they can't run their offense when he's not.

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Speaker 5: Out there, No, but he doesn't run at all either,

726
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Speaker 5: I mean, and that hurts Rogers too. I mean, in

727
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Speaker 5: today's NFL, if you give me nothing with your legs

728
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Speaker 5: over the course of the year, I mean, both these

729
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Speaker 5: guys might run for fifty to one hundred yards or something,

730
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Speaker 5: a couple first downs, but all in all, there's not

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Speaker 5: a threat that hurts.

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Speaker 2: You a lot.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 5: I'm still a believer. I get a lot of heat

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Speaker 5: from my buddies for that. Maybe I'll be proven wrong,

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Speaker 5: but I think.

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Speaker 2: He'll twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Say he's only twenty five, Like we said the same

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Speaker 5: thing about like Matthew Stafford, who's twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Like h he's a bomb. He's not the first overall pick.

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Speaker 2: He's not the best in the.

742
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Speaker 5: League yet he has a lot of bad tape, Lawrence,

743
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Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. But I bet when it's all

744
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Speaker 5: said and done, he ends up tennish next year.

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Speaker 3: I think Liam Cohen is exactly what he needs at

746
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Speaker 3: this stage. Number nineteen, our Lord and Savior, Eugene Cyril

747
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Speaker 3: Smith the Third, also known as Gino Smith. Oh, I'd

748
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Speaker 3: have him much higher than nineteen. Now I'm a little biased, obviously,

749
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Speaker 3: I watched him for four years with my own two eyes.

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Speaker 3: He was my quarterback when I was at WVU in Morgantown. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's top ten, but I would have

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Speaker 3: him closer to ten than I would have twenty.

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Speaker 2: Me too.

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Speaker 5: And I hate saying this in front of you and

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Speaker 5: your presence, but I've said for three years.

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Speaker 3: I know you are one of the reasons I love you, Mad.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's down on the list. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of reasons that I love you, but that's that's one

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 2: Certain is his bad moments too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he can be overly aggressive, But to think

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Speaker 5: that he's like a borderline starter, like some people think

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Speaker 5: it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see that whole thing with him in

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Speaker 3: his return to Seattle with the preseason game.

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Speaker 5: I noticed that that's where they've played, but I didn't

767
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Speaker 5: catch anything else about it.

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Speaker 3: Some some fans in the end zone had a sign

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Speaker 3: that said who's the bigger bust Gino or JaMarcus Russell?

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Speaker 5: And like, what what heck of the Steelers that trade

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Speaker 5: for Gino?

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 2: I would be very happy with him as the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: One was the second round pick who's been to multiple

775
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowls in the postseason. The other was the first

776
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Speaker 3: overall pick who was horrendous, never won any games. Number

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Speaker 3: twenty is Bo Nicks.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. The young guys are really hard to rank. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that's fair. He played really really well.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one Sam Darnold twenty two. Your guy Drake May

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Speaker 3: he's going to be on that next year. Twenty three,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: Okay, twenty four through these, I'm curious for Russell Wilson

784
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Speaker 5: in fields.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four Bryce Young twenty five, Kirk Cousins rank. That

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Speaker 3: is the end of Tier three. Okay, Kirk is the

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Speaker 3: last Tier three. Tier four is Russell Wilson at twenty six, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields at twenty seven, all right, Michael Pennix at

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, JJ McCarthy at twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know how you rank him, Like I

791
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 5: would not put rookies on this list, or McCarthy because

792
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Speaker 5: he didn't play a snap.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you too hard him Daniel Jones thirtieth,

794
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco thirty first, and Anthony Richardson thirty second, and

795
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Speaker 3: then they have list. Then they have into the you know,

796
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Speaker 3: the fifth tier, Spencer Rattler at thirty three, Kenny Pickett

797
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Speaker 3: at thirty four, and then that's the end of their list.

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Speaker 5: He is not ranked rookies. So many people rank rookie quarterbacks.

799
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Speaker 5: That makes me crazy, sade smart enough not to even bother. Yeah, yes,

800
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Speaker 5: GM's stuff that they've never even seen him play an

801
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Speaker 5: NFL game.

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Speaker 3: So there's your quarterback tiers, Matt, I agree with a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think so too. There's there again, and there's something

804
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: that we'd probably have a couple spots lower, a couple

805
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: of the time. Yeah, for the most part, I don't

806
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Speaker 3: think that there was anything egregious on there, other than

807
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: obviously the disrespect to Eugene Cyril Smith, Matt and I

808
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Speaker 3: gotta get to our final break.

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Speaker 2: When we come right to hear from one of those guys, right, We're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna hear a little bit from Aaron Rodgers. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to some of your tweets as well too when we return.

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Speaker 3: Final segment here as the next to last practice, the

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Speaker 3: penultimate practice in the books for your Pittsburgh Steelers here

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Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College, Just one more left tomorrow, last

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Speaker 3: chance to come out and see Aaron Rodgers here on

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Speaker 3: the that's it. It happens quickly. But tomorrow is the

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Speaker 3: last open practice of training camp here at Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 3: You want to come out and see DK Metcalf, You

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Speaker 3: want to come out and see Aaron Rodgers. Some of

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Speaker 3: these new faces, they're pretty impressive live, they certainly are.

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Speaker 3: And Aaron Rodgers. While there are a lot of people

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Speaker 3: in that conversation new faces that have been impressive live,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey, Darius Slay as well, Aaron Rodgers the one

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Speaker 3: that I think everyone has been paying the most attention to,

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Speaker 3: keeping their eyes on the most. The Steelers quarterback sat

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Speaker 3: down with Missy Matthews for a little one on one

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Speaker 3: conversation and here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 4: Aaron, being here at Saint Fanci College and Latrobe, what

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Speaker 4: has this experience been like for you.

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Speaker 6: I'd say it's a bit of a throwback for me,

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Speaker 6: just because we did this same concept for fourteen years

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Speaker 6: in Green Bay. We stayed at Saint Norbert's Cross Town,

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Speaker 6: and it gives you the opportunity to actually really connect

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Speaker 6: with your teammates because there's nowhere to go, you know,

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Speaker 6: we're stuck here at the dorms just been really fun

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Speaker 6: where it's card plan or I'm not a gamer, but

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Speaker 6: you know all these kids are are video gamer so

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Speaker 6: just you know, getting to spend time with these guys

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Speaker 6: pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything about a Stealers training camp, practice or

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Speaker 4: environment that surprises you?

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Speaker 6: Used to be harder than some of the camps I've

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Speaker 6: been in the past. I hadn't been a part of

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Speaker 6: tackling in practice for a long time, so that's been

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Speaker 6: pretty cool. I just like the professional environment, you know,

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Speaker 6: starts with Mike and his expectations for the tempo of

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Speaker 6: practice and professionalism. That's been really fun to see. It's

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Speaker 6: been hot, really hot, hotter than usual that I'm used

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Speaker 6: to for training camp. So that's a good h you know,

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Speaker 6: good stress around our bodies. It's always fun to see

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Speaker 6: kind of how guys respond to that.

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Speaker 4: You talked about wanting to be an expert in this

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Speaker 4: Arthur Smith offense. How exactly is the process? Can you

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Speaker 4: break down how you go about doing that and where

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Speaker 4: do you feel like you are right now?

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Speaker 6: I think I'm pretty close. For me, it's what image

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Speaker 6: is come into my mind when I break the huddle.

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Speaker 6: For me, I have a lot of offenses In my mind,

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Speaker 6: I got the old school West Coast offense from two

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Speaker 6: thousand and five. I got Mike sideration of it from

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Speaker 6: two thousand and six to twenty eighteen. That I got

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Speaker 6: the floor offense in twenty nineteen, and then the kind

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Speaker 6: of the hybrid that we did in twenty twenty to

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, and then I have Nate Hackett's version

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Speaker 6: of that twenty three and twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Now I got arthur' stiss version.

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Speaker 6: So the pictures are starting to crystallize a little bit

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Speaker 6: better as we get into the third week here.

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Speaker 4: A lot of your new teammates have said that you're

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Speaker 4: very calm in the huddle. You can also crack a

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Speaker 4: joke at the same time, but you also have a

881
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: very high standard for the attention to detail. How do

882
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: you balance that and when did you become really good

883
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 4: at that?

884
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: I think it's a learned trait for sure. It starts

885
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: with a mastery of the system. Then you can know

886
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: what everybody's doing every play. The game is played with reactions,

887
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 6: and so I don't want guys thinking out there. I

888
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 6: want guys to have a mastery of the system and

889
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 6: then to go out and use their god given ability

890
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 6: to react to what they see. So I just always

891
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 6: want the guys to be locked in at the same time.

892
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 6: You know, this is a kid's game, so we should

893
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 6: be having fun out here. We should be able to

894
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 6: crack some jokes and rib each other and stuff like that.

895
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: So just that's part of the getting to know your

896
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 6: teammates part. Which guys you can you can get on

897
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 6: and tease about certain things. You know, some guys are

898
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 6: wired super tight. Those are the easiest. You know, some

899
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 6: guys are more loose, and so you got to find

900
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 6: find a way to connect to them and find a

901
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 6: way to have some sort of personal one on one

902
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 6: with every player in order to kind of build that relationship.

903
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: Who's the easiest to get under their skins?

904
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Zach, of course, Zach Brazer.

905
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: I mean, Zach is such a great player. I mean,

906
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 6: he's going to have a long career in the league.

907
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 6: But he's wired real type A and those are the

908
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 6: easiest guys to get on. But you know, the center

909
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 6: has to be the mouthpiece of the quarterback. I'm the

910
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 6: mouthpiece of the coordinator, and so we all got to

911
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 6: be in sync. But we also got to be enjoying

912
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: ourselves and not taking everything.

913
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Too seriously out there.

914
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: We'll have to check back on that. How you've done

915
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: in terms of breaking, I'm breaking. Coach Arth had said

916
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 4: that you prefer a paper playbook in terms of a binder.

917
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: Is that still the case? Is anybody else following suit?

918
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: Are you getting any comments or questions about that.

919
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 6: I'm from the analog days. The most of the younger players,

920
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 6: I won't say kids again, but younger players, they grow

921
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: up on iPads, so it's second nature. And the iPads

922
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 6: are great. You can write notes in there and everything,

923
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 6: but I just always like having multiple ways to remember things.

924
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: So I can see it on the board that's one.

925
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: I can see it on the paper in front of me.

926
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 6: That's two, and then I write it that's three. This

927
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 6: is kind of how I was raising the game. You know,

928
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 6: my notebooks always open. When Mike T's saying something in

929
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 6: a meeting, I'm writing it the writing down. You know,

930
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 6: when Arthur saying something, I'm writing it down. You know

931
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 6: when Coach Arthur is saying something, you know, I'm writing

932
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 6: it down. It's just this is how I was raising

933
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 6: the game.

934
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 4: In terms of Darius Slay, he said when he was

935
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: a young player. He started to gain confidence because of

936
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: his interactions with you after the Green Bay Lions games.

937
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: What do you remember about him then? What did you

938
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: see in him? And what is it like being his

939
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: teammate now?

940
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: I mean, Darius has always been an elite player. He's

941
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 6: always had elite ball skills and always a guy you

942
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: really had to be aware of where he was at.

943
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 6: And you know, when you when you bring in veteran

944
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 6: guys like this who are true professionals, Uh, you don't

945
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 6: have to worry about the standard being set. And we've

946
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 6: you know, brought in guys on offense, brought on even

947
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 6: more guys on defense. And when you have those veteran

948
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 6: guys who know what it's like to play and play

949
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 6: at high level, they just set the standard for practice,

950
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 6: set the standard for the meeting room, set the standard

951
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: for the interactions and makes my job, as you know,

952
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: want to be team leader, you know that much easier.

953
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: Pretty cool conversation there with Aaron Rodgers and Missy Matthews.

954
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: And you can tell miss he's a real journalist, you know,

955
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: asking asking the good questions. Uh, tell Aaron to leave ZAKALONEO.

956
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, wound a little tight.

957
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: A couple of tweets here, just quickly, Matt, before we

958
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: get out of here. We got like a minute left.

959
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: Annie tweets and says, the bonus points you learned for

960
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: saying cake Eater were lost when you said that Departed

961
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: was better than the Godfather. Come on, yeah, no, not

962
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: the Godfather, Goodfellas.

963
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: You did say Godfather. That's where you almost sorry.

964
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: I meant to say Goodfellas. The Godfather is the Godfather.

965
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 3: It's in its own tear.

966
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: It's the best. They're the best two movies ever.

967
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: So but I and I still do love Goodfellas, don't

968
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: get me wrong.

969
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: It's I would put good Fellows over and Departed, but

970
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: at least they're closer.

971
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: I would for years, but now I would go over

972
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. I've seen the light. I'll

973
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: go uh, I'll go Departed over Goodfellas by a hair.

974
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, Godfather still the king. There steal a nation

975
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: nine twenty tweets and says, what is the game you're

976
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: most excited for this season?

977
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: Can't say Dublin that's way too.

978
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 3: How about Rogers against the Packers.

979
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. That's Sunday Night right, that's pretty cool.

980
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 3: That's that's that's I think a pretty cool one.

981
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you'd always see Ravens too.

982
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 3: That doesn't count Ravens, no doubt. Hey, the opener against

983
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: the Jets will be a lot of fun.

984
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean against Roger old team too.

985
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: There no doubt, no doubt. The standard is the standard,

986
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: tweets and says based off of camp and everything you've

987
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: seen so far, give me someone at wide receiver and

988
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: someone at defensive back who might be on the outside

989
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: looking in to make the roster.

990
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: May We talked about that a lot today.

991
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I do think those those three corners probably

992
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 5: spots unless an injury occurs. I think Miller's probably got

993
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 5: the inside track to be the final cut, the final

994
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: made roster receiver. But that's not over yet, and I'm

995
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 5: still not dismissing the fact that there could be someone

996
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: from outside the organization at that position.

997
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: I think that that is very fair to see to

998
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: still have as a consideration, Matt, that'll do it for

999
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: us today. Good stuff, dude, I enjoyed it as always.

1000
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: Thank you, and thanks to our producer, Justin Miller back

1001
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Speaker 3: at HQ four holding us down coverage begins tomorrow here

1002
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1003
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,080
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1004
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: coverage here on campus for Matt Williams and I am

1005
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,800
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1006
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,719
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