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Speaker 1: This is Angela Raie, your host for today's solo pod
Speaker 1: for Native Lampid. Today, I just want to talk to
Speaker 1: you all about Donald Christ Jesus Trump. I don't really
Speaker 1: know what's going on, but let's pull this video up
Speaker 1: where he addresses deciding to make himself look like Jesus
Speaker 1: the Christ.
Speaker 2: Please fascinated. Did you post that picture of yourself is
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't a picture, it was me. I did
Speaker 3: post it, and I thought it was me as a
Speaker 3: doctor and had to do with Red Cross as a
Speaker 3: Red Cross worker there, which we support. And only the
Speaker 3: fake news could come up with that one. So I
Speaker 3: just heard about it and I said, how did they
Speaker 3: come up with that? It's supposed to be me as
Speaker 3: a doctor making people better, and I do make people better.
Speaker 3: I make people a lot better.
Speaker 1: So Donald Trump is saying that this image, if we
Speaker 1: could put the image up, He's saying that this image
Speaker 1: of him is him as a doctor. He's laying hands
Speaker 1: on a sick patient. He is holding the light in
Speaker 1: his hand. There are the American flag behind him and
Speaker 1: egos swooping down. Of course, it's all white folks in
Speaker 1: his picture, I guess because he saw the nurse to
Speaker 1: the right. He was like, and there, actually, this could
Speaker 1: be a doctor too. She got a steptuscle bar. So
Speaker 1: he says that he is portraying himself as a doctor.
Speaker 1: I have never seen, I have never, ever ever seen.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a doctor come through with the
Speaker 1: red drip on and the little white baggy cloak.
Speaker 2: Jesus wore air jerusalems back in the day.
Speaker 1: I imagine that this picture, if we could see his feet,
Speaker 1: he also has on air jerusalems. I've never seen a
Speaker 1: doctor come through with anything other than hokahs these.
Speaker 2: Days, maybe some crocs.
Speaker 1: Definitely not looking like this in the sick room, as
Speaker 1: the old folks would say.
Speaker 2: And where are his gloves?
Speaker 1: So Donald Trump is trying to argue now that this
Speaker 1: is not him depicting himself as Jesus the Christ. He's
Speaker 1: saying that he was trying to portray himself as a doctor.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it, but I don't buy most of
Speaker 1: what this man says. Somehow, y'all do so let us
Speaker 1: now look at one of his staunch supporters had to
Speaker 1: say about this image, as doctor Donald Trump, y'are right. So.
Speaker 1: Riley Gaines, who was a notorious conservative influencer, had this
Speaker 1: to say about this image. Why, seriously, I cannot understand
Speaker 1: why he posts this? Is he looking for a response?
Speaker 1: Does he actually think this?
Speaker 2: Yes? Riley, where are you being girl?
Speaker 1: Yes? He thinks this anyway? She says, either way, two
Speaker 1: things are true. One, a little humility would serve him. Well,
Speaker 1: there's me looking for humility for him. It's me looking
Speaker 1: for humility for him.
Speaker 2: When has he ever been humble? Riley?
Speaker 1: Cut it out. Number Two she says, God shall not
Speaker 1: be moxed. And now the church can say a man, y'all,
Speaker 1: finally we agree on something. Donald Trump is not humble.
Speaker 1: And two God shall not be moxed. But this is
Speaker 1: what the old Black church ladies say. They say, yo,
Speaker 1: sin will find you out and slowly, but Shirley, y'all
Speaker 1: are starting to find out. For those of you on Instagram,
Speaker 1: are on YouTube, come over. But this is what I
Speaker 1: want to tell y'all. It is so important to understand
Speaker 1: that this is what happens. When you worship a president
Speaker 1: instead of your savior. So here we are doing this. Now,
Speaker 1: here's what's amazing about this. Riley was offended. At three
Speaker 1: in the morning, she saw Donald Trump's response saying that
Speaker 1: he was a doctor, and Riley completely changed tunes. Let's
Speaker 1: post this next Riley tweet tweet where she's which she
Speaker 1: responds to this. This is Riley at five pm or
Speaker 1: six pm yesterday. She says, I love the President and
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful he's in the Oval office. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'll continue to support him and the America First Agenda.
Speaker 2: She says. At the end of the day, I do nothing.
Speaker 1: For the approval of man. Our purpose on this earth
Speaker 1: is to glorify him and all we do. Now what
Speaker 1: him and she talk about, I think she's back to
Speaker 1: worshiping Donald Trump, which I'll think the true social posts
Speaker 1: missed the mark. It's now deleted. Amazing, but we still
Speaker 1: see it, friend, We still see it.
Speaker 2: Friend. She says, we're imperfect people. I know I am.
Speaker 1: I don't get my feelings hurt easy, and I know
Speaker 1: with the President it's really not personal. I want to
Speaker 1: spend eternity in a real place called heaven.
Speaker 2: I love for Trump to be there too. Oh, I
Speaker 2: hate to break it door anyway.
Speaker 1: Hey, let me just stay on this sweet because I'm
Speaker 1: about to get in trouble.
Speaker 2: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
Speaker 1: I'll keep doing my part by speaking truth and doing
Speaker 1: my best to lead others to Christ.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you some whatever Christ they're serving, I don't.
Speaker 1: Want nothing to do with them. I'm over here in
Speaker 1: Black liberation Jesus. I'm over here with Black liberation Jesus
Speaker 1: because their Jesus is the one that had people enslaved.
Speaker 1: I don't see any difference between how Donald Trump rolls
Speaker 1: these days. What Riley is posting him deciding that he's
Speaker 1: a doctor in the sick room and then claiming that
Speaker 1: you know that he was not trying to be Jesus
Speaker 1: the Christ himself.
Speaker 2: Yes he was.
Speaker 1: We are not fooled, and yet God is still not mocked.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what else. Speaking of racism
Speaker 1: in the White House and in trump Land, one thing
Speaker 1: that was really important for us to understand is how
Speaker 1: important it was for law enforcement to be held accountable.
Speaker 1: Strides were made during the Obama administration to hold law
Speaker 1: enforcement accountable, to put some police departments under consent decrees
Speaker 1: where they had showed pattern and practice of racist and
Speaker 1: harmfully violent behavior towards people of color. The additional strides
Speaker 1: were made under Joe Biden and the Biden administration. We know,
Speaker 1: of course that Kamala Harris, when she was a sitting Senator,
Speaker 1: worked diligently to get the George Floyd Justice and Policing
Speaker 1: Act passed. But we know that we still have a
Speaker 1: lot further to go. And so today joining me, I
Speaker 1: have my good brother and friend. He's been working diligently
Speaker 1: on a campaign called Justice for Big Sam. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about that and what happened in Baltimore on
Speaker 1: February sixteenth. Joining me now is DJ Quicksilvael.
Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm blessed, but still heavy heart, still still mourning,
Speaker 3: but at the same time trying to keep a balance
Speaker 3: of fighting for justice daily, which is not easy, but
Speaker 3: you know, somebody has to because if I don't, and
Speaker 3: if we go quiet, that's what they want.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that is very true.
Speaker 1: They are used to being able to intimidate people, whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, victims, friends, victims, family members all of that.
Speaker 1: We've seen this over and over again, and I got
Speaker 1: to tell you it took a lot for me to
Speaker 1: finally get to the point of watching the video. But
Speaker 1: before we watch the video, which I feel personally and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you agree, quick Silver, the video is so dehumanizing.
Speaker 1: I want people to understand who Samuel Brown was to
Speaker 1: you as a fifty six year old father of six.
Speaker 1: You say he's the reason you're in the industry. I
Speaker 1: want you to talk to our audience a little bit
Speaker 1: about who he was and then who he.
Speaker 2: Was to you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, his name is Samuel Brown, but the world knows
Speaker 3: him as Big Sam, or dad or best friend. This
Speaker 3: is a man that is, like I said, responsible for
Speaker 3: my career. I met Sam back in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 3: going into nineteen ninety five, when I really first started
Speaker 3: my career. His family owned a nightclub in Baltimore called
Speaker 3: Club Indigo, and that's how I met Sam. And I
Speaker 3: remember the day like was yesterday. I was a fifteen
Speaker 3: year old kid going into a nightclub. So of course
Speaker 3: I wasn't old enough to drive for my dad was
Speaker 3: dropping me off at the club and Big Sam Will
Speaker 3: Samuel Brown met us at the front door, and I
Speaker 3: remember my dad saying to him, you better take care
Speaker 3: of my son. If y'all wan him Djam's club, take
Speaker 3: care my son. And Sam's exact words is, and I quote,
Speaker 3: nothing will happen to him that won't happen to me. First,
Speaker 3: I got his back and he has literally been that
Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety five, my right hand, my role manager,
Speaker 3: my partner, I mean everything you know. Big Sam has
Speaker 3: been everything to me. He was also a dad of six,
Speaker 3: four girls, two boys. He once had seven kids. Unflosely
Speaker 3: one of his daughters passed away, but at the moment
Speaker 3: when his passing happened or the homicide happened, he currently
Speaker 3: has four girls, two sons, just a a person that
Speaker 3: his slogan was I'm on it, Because if Sam says
Speaker 3: I'm on it, you never had to question it. He
Speaker 3: was the go to god, not just for Quicksilver, he
Speaker 3: was the go to guy for everybody, for his family,
Speaker 3: for his friends. Everybody knew Big Sam, everybody loved Big Sam,
Speaker 3: everybody respected Big Sam. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: Samuel Brown should be alive right.
Speaker 1: Now, absolutely, and to that in I think that it
Speaker 1: is important for us to see what happened on February sixteenth,
Speaker 1: So we're going to roll this video.
Speaker 2: He was pulled over.
Speaker 3: Well, let me stop. He wasn't pulled over. He actually
Speaker 3: was not driving.
Speaker 1: No I meant, I meant he was. He was police
Speaker 1: he pulled his car over. You're right, I should have
Speaker 1: phrased that differently. Why don't I let you describe what
Speaker 1: happened from what you all have found out so far,
Speaker 1: and then we'll play the video from there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the reason why I kind of stopped you
Speaker 3: there because some of the narrative from some of the
Speaker 3: others were saying, well, he shouldn't have been drunk driving,
Speaker 3: and he got pulled over for drunk driving. And I
Speaker 3: make it clear Sam's not drunk driving. Sam did what
Speaker 3: a lot of us have done. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: this is right because the trigger word is who's holding
Speaker 3: him accountable? So, unfortunately, Angela, I'm not sure if you
Speaker 3: have a drink, but I drink every now then, and
Speaker 3: if I ever felt myself too drunk to drive, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: what do you do? You pull over so you don't
Speaker 3: kill anybody, so you don't kill yourself. This is not
Speaker 3: the right thing to do. But most people, if you
Speaker 3: know for a fact you're getting your car and you
Speaker 3: realize you're too drunk, instead of killing somebody, instead of
Speaker 3: killing yourself or harming somebody, you pull over, try to
Speaker 3: sleep it off, and hopefully you wake up sober enough
Speaker 3: to drive home. This is what he did. So he
Speaker 3: never was pulled over for DUI. He pulled over to
Speaker 3: the side of the road and fell asleep. When he
Speaker 3: fell asleep, according to the police records, they said someone
Speaker 3: called for a wellness check. And that is so important
Speaker 3: to know because some of the other narrative was it
Speaker 3: was a dui stop. It was not a dui stop.
Speaker 3: He never got breathalyzed or did anything that proved that
Speaker 3: he was actually drunk at the moment, So.
Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance too And people see that
Speaker 2: in the video.
Speaker 3: Get you'll see that in the second. So the officer
Speaker 3: was called for a wellness check, and I think that
Speaker 3: is so important. It was not a dui stop. It
Speaker 3: was a wellness check of a man who was asleep
Speaker 3: behind the wheel when the officer arrives. And once again,
Speaker 3: this is all according to the police report. So for
Speaker 3: anybody who has an opinion, I'm just going to speak
Speaker 3: facts from the police report he actually got. When the
Speaker 3: officer arrived, he knocked on Sam's window. He asked Sam,
Speaker 3: you know, to roll the window down. Sam rose the
Speaker 3: window down, And unfortunately you don't see a lot of
Speaker 3: this in the actual first video. So and we went
Speaker 3: and before I keep going, we've been requesting the full
Speaker 3: footage as well as the dash cam as well as everything,
Speaker 3: so we can see everything because according to the police
Speaker 3: report and what we're seeing, what you're about to show,
Speaker 3: it takes some of the beginning out that is super
Speaker 3: important for the case. So as he's rolling the window down,
Speaker 3: he asks Sam, you know you're okay. Sam says, I'm fine.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm good. The officer says, then he looked
Speaker 3: at Sam and he Sam looked drunk. Know, anybody who
Speaker 3: is a geneough to look at somebody and tell you
Speaker 3: just look drunk. But he say look drunk and his
Speaker 3: words were slurring. So at this moment this is probably
Speaker 3: the most important part. He acts Sam to then get
Speaker 3: out of the car. Sam then says, you know, if
Speaker 3: I'm not under arrest legally, I don't have to get
Speaker 3: out of the car. So him and the officer I
Speaker 3: guess exchange words. The officer Derek Hadle then opens Sam's door.
Speaker 3: He opens Sam's door. As he opened Sam's door, you'll
Speaker 3: see in the video, Sam puts his hands on his
Speaker 3: left thigh to show that I'm not a threat. I
Speaker 3: don't have any guns or weapons on me. I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to fight you anything, because that's another nerdtive that
Speaker 3: Sam was just aggressive. But once again you'll see in
Speaker 3: the video, as his hands is on his left eye,
Speaker 3: the officer and him are going back and forth, and
Speaker 3: on purpose, I believe they cut this audio out of
Speaker 3: the video that you're about to see. So as they're
Speaker 3: going back and forth, you then see Officer Derek Hadele
Speaker 3: slam Sam's door. Now, I want you to just use
Speaker 3: your common sense. If I think this person is drunk
Speaker 3: behind the wheel, why would I slam the door after
Speaker 3: asking him to get out of the car. Get out
Speaker 3: of the car. So after actioning to get out of
Speaker 3: the car and slamming his door, you then see Samuel
Speaker 3: Brown exit the vehicle. Because I know Sam so well
Speaker 3: and I know his demeanor, I know for a fact
Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hadele had to set something to change Sam's mind.
Speaker 3: Because if I asked answer to ride to do something
Speaker 3: a hundred times in answers no, no, no, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden answer becomes yes. What made you say yes?
Speaker 3: And once again they muted this part of the audio
Speaker 3: so the audio doesn't come in. And to the officer,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I can curse, I'll used to
Speaker 3: it says get the f back in the car. So,
Speaker 3: once again for all the Instagram lawyers, if I think
Speaker 3: a man is drunk, am I asking him to get
Speaker 3: back in the vehicle? Does that make any sense? Because
Speaker 3: you say you think he's drunk. So after access Sam
Speaker 3: to get back or get the F back in the vehicle,
Speaker 3: Sam then is trying to say something to him. We
Speaker 3: can't tell exactly what Sam was trying to say. The
Speaker 3: officer Derek Hado puts his hand on Sam's chest. At
Speaker 3: this moment, Sam goes to swipe down to tell him
Speaker 3: to get off of Sam actually misses he missed. Officer
Speaker 3: Derek Cado then puts his hand again on Sam's chest.
Speaker 3: Sam goes to swipe, he never went this way to
Speaker 3: punch him. He puts that and he had his hands
Speaker 3: behind his back when he first got out of the car.
Speaker 3: You'll see that in the second as well. The show
Speaker 3: once again, I'm not a threat. I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: attack you or fight you. But whatever you said to me,
Speaker 3: you're not going to disrespect me as a man. So,
Speaker 3: after Sam tried to swipe his hand from touching him twice,
Speaker 3: Officer Derek hado illegally punched Sam in his face twice
Speaker 3: firt once in the nose, breaking his nose once in
Speaker 3: his shaw. From that, Samuel Brown then falls back, hits
Speaker 3: his head and he becomes unconscious. So I'm not sure
Speaker 3: you want to show the video that we can kind
Speaker 3: of walk through it from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to show the video again. For
Speaker 1: those of you who are just tuning in. I'm on
Speaker 1: right now with DJ quick Silva. He's talking about his
Speaker 1: good friend picture right here. This is Big Sam and
Speaker 1: someone who's a legend certainly to the d m V area,
Speaker 1: and right now Quicksilver is doing everything he can to
Speaker 1: ensure justice for Big Sam. So we're talking about the
Speaker 1: case right now. We're gonna roll this video so you
Speaker 1: all can see some of what happened. Again, some of
Speaker 1: that audio is muted. They're saying that it is for
Speaker 1: investigative purposes. We can pull the video up and then
Speaker 1: you'll also hear some of the commentary. This is the
Speaker 1: part of the video where we can't hear, but the
Speaker 1: officers flashing a flashlight in his face as he's sitting
Speaker 1: parked on the side of the road. They're in some discussion.
Speaker 1: I'm just describing this for those who are going to
Speaker 1: be tuned in audio only. There's some discussion. Big Sam
Speaker 1: here is pictured in an orange vest and just slams
Speaker 1: his door and walks away from the vehicle. And Big
Speaker 1: Sam is now exiting the vehicle. His hands are behind
Speaker 1: his back. As you said, he puts his hand on
Speaker 1: his chest.
Speaker 2: There you go. There's here.
Speaker 3: I have a car, sir, I cladr sir his car.
Speaker 2: So this was the part for me. Quick of a
Speaker 2: he's punched him.
Speaker 1: He makes some type of grunt noise at him, knows
Speaker 1: he's unconscious, proceeds to handcuff him. It gets worse, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm describing it for the people who
Speaker 1: are watching.
Speaker 2: There's a clear gash in the back of his head.
Speaker 2: He is bleeding from the back of his head.
Speaker 1: He's flipped him over, called for backup and is handcuffing
Speaker 1: unconscious Samuel Brown. He rolls him over with the handcuffs
Speaker 1: and you see a pool of blood. He's going in
Speaker 1: his pockets now mm hmm. I guess now he wants
Speaker 1: to identify the man that he's knocked out unconscious, and
Speaker 1: he begins to put on rubber gloves to I guess,
Speaker 1: try to administer some type of aid. You can hear
Speaker 1: him heaving breathing because he knows he's done something wrong. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's asking for a bandage because there's a cool of blood.
Speaker 2: Under Big Sam's face. D Again, they did meet the
Speaker 2: video here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means when he says he's
Speaker 1: ninety five, and he keeps saying he's breathing, as if
Speaker 1: to justify what he's done. You hear the sirens coming
Speaker 1: for additional backup. It takes a little while for the
Speaker 1: medics to arrive. Keep saying he's breathing quicksilver. He keeps
Speaker 1: on saying that at this point, there's another officer on
Speaker 1: the scene. This officer, the one who punched him, knocked
Speaker 1: him unconscious. Guys a goze pad that he's now placing.
Speaker 3: On the back of his head.
Speaker 1: The carelessness for which they're treating him is amazing. This
Speaker 1: is another part where the sound goes out. We don't
Speaker 1: know what they're saying, but he's trying to apply a
Speaker 1: gauze on it head and has put his face back
Speaker 1: in the pool of blood.
Speaker 3: Everyone they had they.
Speaker 1: Have again interducted the audio here, they said to protect
Speaker 1: the integrity of the investigation, because I still's flopping his
Speaker 1: head around, put his head back in the pool of
Speaker 1: blood again.
Speaker 3: Just attach that tag on. And he noticed the calls
Speaker 3: for backup and not for.
Speaker 2: And he's going through his pockets again.
Speaker 3: Because I'm sure the call was that he was a
Speaker 3: town so he wanted to get back up when the
Speaker 3: call should have been. But we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I think what blows me away here is the fact
Speaker 1: that he's applying this pressure to the back of his
Speaker 1: head with the guz and he keeps placing his face
Speaker 1: back in the.
Speaker 3: Pool of blood because he was untrained and that he
Speaker 3: had no idea.
Speaker 2: No, I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: Somebody else another officers coming with gloves on now trying
Speaker 1: to help him. He's saying, there's a good quote good
Speaker 1: laceration on the back of his head, they're now lifting
Speaker 1: his head out of the blood, and there's another officer
Speaker 1: that's come to wrap a bandage around the gauze on
Speaker 1: his head.
Speaker 2: I don't know at.
Speaker 1: What point it happens, quick Silva, but at some point
Speaker 1: they say they need the shackles.
Speaker 2: They need the shackles.
Speaker 3: Because he's an animal. We need animal pictures. Well, you
Speaker 3: can take I got he's in a recovery position.
Speaker 1: This is as good as it's gonna get for now, y'all.
Speaker 1: Nobody deserves to be handled this way. All of this
Speaker 1: bandaging up is happening with his hands behind his back.
Speaker 1: This man is I've been unconscious the entire time they
Speaker 1: bring out the shackles. I think I probably talked over
Speaker 1: when they were saying to get the shackles. Yes, but
Speaker 1: they are at this point shackling an unconscious man whose
Speaker 1: face has been in the pool of his own blood
Speaker 1: for the duration of this nick We can cut it
Speaker 1: from here.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to quicksilfa.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm and one part. And you know, at this point,
Speaker 3: I can actually watch this video without get emotional because
Speaker 3: I've watched his video. One mega, It's okay, I watched
Speaker 3: the video Omegan times with his family, with our attorney
Speaker 3: Billy Murphy. I'm just analyzing every single aspect of the video.
Speaker 3: And like you mentioned, as he is obviously unconscious and
Speaker 3: we now know brain dead. Uh, they asked for the shackles,
Speaker 3: which was so dehumanizing, and after shackling him, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you were to continue watching the video, one of
Speaker 3: the officers that were actually holding his head, he says,
Speaker 3: and I quote, oh man, this is dead weight. Then
Speaker 3: he starts laughing. Yes, starts laughing. So remind just as
Speaker 3: a man who we now know his brain did. And
Speaker 3: my question is what was so funny because there was
Speaker 3: nothing funny about this incident. So after he's laughing, he
Speaker 3: then of course finally the medics arrived, after minutes of
Speaker 3: these untrained officers who you can see and have no
Speaker 3: idea what they're doing, making matters worse. So one thing
Speaker 3: I want to kind of just harp on is after
Speaker 3: and once again, anything that I say, I want people
Speaker 3: to fact check me because obviously they haven't been fact checking,
Speaker 3: you know, things that these officers are put out there.
Speaker 3: After actually finally getting him into the medics, get him
Speaker 3: to the hospital, you know, Officer Derek Hado den does
Speaker 3: and this is once again all documented in the police shuport,
Speaker 3: but this never made the social media. He then goes
Speaker 3: to search Sam's vehicle and hopes that he finds some
Speaker 3: drugs or weapons, so I can now justify, you know,
Speaker 3: why we just killed this man. So they go through
Speaker 3: his vehicle. Of course there's no weapons in there. But
Speaker 3: then they go through his arm brest and they find
Speaker 3: some pills. This is all in the police report, so
Speaker 3: I can only imagine when they found those pills, they
Speaker 3: probably said to themselves, thank you God, we got something illegal.
Speaker 3: We have a reason now that we can say whatever.
Speaker 3: They go and actually test the pills, and the pills
Speaker 3: come back. It was nothing but this medication. That's it.
Speaker 3: Nothing illegal. This was his medication that he used because
Speaker 3: he was actually sick. So now after they test these
Speaker 3: pills and finds his medication, the officer then does a
Speaker 3: full police report talk about how he was assaulted. And
Speaker 3: once again, if you watch the video back again, because
Speaker 3: according to the police report it says Samuel Brown punched
Speaker 3: officer Derek Hadel twice, we now know that was a lie.
Speaker 3: Samuel Brown never went this direction. He want this direction
Speaker 3: to swipe his hand away. Now, as my lawyer, Billy
Speaker 3: Birth he said over and over again, when Sam went
Speaker 3: to swipe his hand twice, legally, Officer Derek Hado had options.
Speaker 3: The first option would it could have been to lock
Speaker 3: them up. Sir, you attempted even though you didn't assault me,
Speaker 3: you attempted to assault me, So by law, I'm putting
Speaker 3: you under arrest. That's what they could have done. Secondly,
Speaker 3: let's just say Sam was aggressive. You could have tased
Speaker 3: them and you could have pepper sprayed them, or you
Speaker 3: could have did what you're trained to do, call for backup.
Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hado. He completely ignored all the legal things
Speaker 3: that he was trained to do and he went street.
Speaker 3: If you try to assault me, I'm gonna beat you up.
Speaker 3: That's the street mentality. Unfortunately, when you become an officer
Speaker 3: of the law, you don't have the right to punch
Speaker 3: me legally, especially when you know for a fact I'm
Speaker 3: not a threat. There's no drugs, no guns or weapons
Speaker 3: on me. I'm not assaulting you. Officer Derek Hado then
Speaker 3: punches him twice. A thing.
Speaker 1: I want to know you do you do anything wrong?
Speaker 1: I want to get into this a little bit because
Speaker 1: I think it's so important. So again, this happened February
Speaker 1: sixteenth of this year. He was unconscious for eleven days.
Speaker 1: Of course, Big Sam passed on February twenty seventh, But
Speaker 1: this was not officer Derek Baltimore County Officer Derek Hato's
Speaker 1: first issue with police misconduct. He was investigated for a
Speaker 1: policeman misconduct in twenty twenty three after a deadly car crash.
Speaker 1: He was assigned to counseling. In addition to that, his
Speaker 1: own wife, Oh no, I'm sorry. Before we even get
Speaker 1: to his wife, he was also found guilty of damaging
Speaker 1: a police car where he didn't properly report what happened
Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty four. In fact, he said that
Speaker 1: nothing happened, that there was no damage to any vehicle involved.
Speaker 1: And then I also think it's important for people to
Speaker 1: understand that Derek Cato's own wife, his own wife, said
Speaker 1: that he.
Speaker 2: Got irate.
Speaker 1: This is a direct quote from an article in The
Speaker 1: Banner three years prior to either of the car accidents,
Speaker 1: both of the ones that I reference happening in the
Speaker 1: same year. She filed a petition for protective order against
Speaker 1: her husband after an argument turned violent. It says Derek
Speaker 1: Cato got irate and began smashing furniture, screaming at me
Speaker 1: in front of our kids, and a broke door and
Speaker 1: broke a door. His wife wrote the petition quote, he
Speaker 1: threatened to break everything if I didn't come upstairs with him.
Speaker 1: Now they ended up dismissing this request because she did
Speaker 1: not appear. And we know normally what happens when people
Speaker 1: opt not to appear, there's some type of threat or intimidation.
Speaker 1: But I think is so important here, Quicksilvan, you know
Speaker 1: I always got to tie a policy lens into this.
Speaker 1: This is why people wanted those accountability measure put in
Speaker 1: place with the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. This
Speaker 1: is why that police accountability database that the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice got rid of earlier this year, to help us
Speaker 1: understand when officers change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction or state
Speaker 1: to state, what their background says they are capable of.
Speaker 1: And thank God for investigative reporting. We know this about
Speaker 1: officer Hadel, but you all are saying this man should
Speaker 1: not be on the street. He does not deserve to
Speaker 1: wear the badge at all.
Speaker 3: He definitely should not deserve the wor the badge. And
Speaker 3: as of this second, he still has not been fired.
Speaker 3: He's been on the administrative leabers man. He's pretty much
Speaker 3: just getting paid to be home. And this is something
Speaker 3: actually I'm not sure I told you this when he
Speaker 3: was in the hospital for twelve hours before his first
Speaker 3: of Kim was even contacted, which was his daughter and myself.
Speaker 3: And the question we were asking, you know, of course
Speaker 3: the Baltimore County Police Department and the hospital, is that,
Speaker 3: why did it take you twelve hours to actually reach
Speaker 3: out to us? What were you doing for twelve hours?
Speaker 3: And we now know trying to get their story together
Speaker 3: because when I finally or rived to the hospital, what
Speaker 3: I was told, and I wish that I was smart
Speaker 3: enough to get the officer's name, but I'm forced here
Speaker 3: at this point. I thought that this happened from a
Speaker 3: slip and fall. When we first arrived to the hospital,
Speaker 3: I was told by the officers that were there that
Speaker 3: Sam was pulled over. Sam got out the car. When
Speaker 3: Sam got the car kind of being religion to the officer,
Speaker 3: I quote they said the officer had to use force.
Speaker 3: And when the officer used force, Sam slipped on ice
Speaker 3: and hit his head. This is what I was told,
Speaker 3: Sam slipped on ice and hit his head. We now
Speaker 3: know that was a line. Like I said my first
Speaker 3: initial pressure port, I said, if there's one live, we
Speaker 3: knew there's other lives. It wasn't until Sam got out
Speaker 3: of surgery and when he got back to his room
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at him, and once again I'm thinking
Speaker 3: that Sam got into it with the police. They got
Speaker 3: to some altercation and Sam actually slipped and hit his head.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. At the moment when he comes
Speaker 3: out and I'm looking at him, I see it at
Speaker 3: his nose was bandshed up, he has a black eye,
Speaker 3: and the whole back of his skull is literally off.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at him and I'm saying, all this
Speaker 3: happened from a slipping fall. Because once again, y'all never
Speaker 3: told us that Officer Derek hadle illegally punched them twice.
Speaker 3: They just completely didn't say that part. So as I'm
Speaker 3: looking at him over and over again, I'm talking to
Speaker 3: his daughter's like, all this happened from a slipping fall,
Speaker 3: and thank god, you know, we start asking questions to
Speaker 3: the nurses and the doctors, but of course legally they
Speaker 3: couldn't say but so much. But one of the nurses
Speaker 3: had I said, I looked at it. I looked at
Speaker 3: my eyes and said, are you sure this happened from
Speaker 3: a slipping fall? And there was was You know, I
Speaker 3: can't say, but all I can say is you need
Speaker 3: a lawyer. And from that moment I knew that there
Speaker 3: was injustice. I just didn't know what. And then day
Speaker 3: by day things started coming out about all the lies
Speaker 3: that were told, and then now we know that the
Speaker 3: officer punched them. And then of course we hire our attorney,
Speaker 3: Billy Burphy, who really looks into it. And then every
Speaker 3: single day we started finding out a lie after a
Speaker 3: lie after a lie. And then the first three days
Speaker 3: they actually had officers in the hospital room from twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven claiming that he was under arrest. After
Speaker 3: three days, all of a sudden, the officers leave. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, was he under arrest or was he not
Speaker 3: un arrest? Because why are you leaving? Now? I'm positive,
Speaker 3: but after the three days, and once again this is
Speaker 3: just my opinion, after the three days of them watching
Speaker 3: the video and realizing it, somebody told somebody y'all can
Speaker 3: leave now.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I wonder now, just given where we are, the fact
Speaker 1: that you all have uncovered so much, what you're asking
Speaker 1: the community to do, you all still don't have all
Speaker 1: the information. There's still parts of this video certainly that
Speaker 1: are redacted from an audio perspective. I know you want
Speaker 1: a thorough investigation, but you also have some expectations for
Speaker 1: this officer.
Speaker 2: What are you asking the community to do right now?
Speaker 3: To weigh in first and foremost can tell you're saying
Speaker 3: this name Samuel Brown aka Big Sam, because unfortunately you
Speaker 3: know this and other it's because we're in media. If
Speaker 3: the public is not outraised, they take their time. If
Speaker 3: the publisher gets outraised enough, these investigations can actually happen
Speaker 3: in a month. If no one's talking about it, they
Speaker 3: can take years to make this investigation happen. So my
Speaker 3: ask is we have to continue keeping the noise. Of course,
Speaker 3: our attorney, Billy Murphy is doing all he can every
Speaker 3: single day behind the scenes, fighting for this. Of course,
Speaker 3: every day I'm posting about it, I'm talking about my
Speaker 3: radio show. But like you said to when you first
Speaker 3: reached out, it can't just be us. We need we
Speaker 3: need more people bringing awareness to this case and actually
Speaker 3: doing your homework, because unfortunately, you know, the public opinion
Speaker 3: was kind of split because a video came out and
Speaker 3: it just completely all the video show was Sam getting
Speaker 3: out the car and then officer punching Sam. So some
Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, Sam shouldn't have got
Speaker 3: out of the car, not knowing the officer asked him to
Speaker 3: get out the car. So so much of the facts
Speaker 3: were there which had people believing that Sam just randomly
Speaker 3: got off the car and tried to fight this officer.
Speaker 3: That one hundred percent is not true. So I want
Speaker 3: people to do your own homework, do your due diligence,
Speaker 3: actually look into this case. The police record is public records,
Speaker 3: so actually read the police records and then asks yourself,
Speaker 3: is what the police saying? The exact same thing with
Speaker 3: Egland with you're watching in this video and now this's
Speaker 3: gonna be no, no, and no. So with that being said,
Speaker 3: the acts right now is that we're acting the officer.
Speaker 3: Baltimore County Officer Derrik Hade will be fired first and
Speaker 3: after fire, we want them charged because we now know
Speaker 3: that this was a homicide. So now that we know
Speaker 3: that this was a homicide, which means he was killed
Speaker 3: at the hands off of Officer Derrik Hadell. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say his first agree because I don't think this
Speaker 3: was intentional. I think that he just thought that. You know,
Speaker 3: this is an officer that we now know has anger problems,
Speaker 3: and always say, if a man beats his wife at home,
Speaker 3: what do you think you're gonna do to a person
Speaker 3: in the streets. So you know, our ass is that
Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hit'll be fired and charged, and from there
Speaker 3: we can continue to fight for justice.
Speaker 2: I can agree with you more, Quicksilver.
Speaker 1: I will just say one other ask that I have
Speaker 1: for you all is to please reach out to the
Speaker 1: Maryland State Attorney General asking them to promptly investigate and
Speaker 1: thoroughly investigate this matter. You can reach them at four
Speaker 1: one zero five seven six seven zero seven zero. Again
Speaker 1: that's four one zero five seven six seven zero seven zero.
Speaker 1: The ask is for justice for Big Sam. The ask
Speaker 1: is for truth to be told. The ask is for
Speaker 1: violent law enforcement officers to be taken off our streets.
Speaker 1: They can't handle interacting with our people, and we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to interact with them. Our taxpayer dollars pay them
Speaker 1: and so we deserve to stay alive and they ought
Speaker 1: to be held accountable. So quick stilve. I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: for your time today. Any partying words you have.
Speaker 3: Man, I will to say thank you for taking the
Speaker 3: time out, for allowing me to be on your program
Speaker 3: and help me to spread this word because, like you say,
Speaker 3: it's powers numbers. When we come together, you know we
Speaker 3: can't be defeated. And like I said, their hopes. When
Speaker 3: I say they, I mean the Baltimore County Police Department
Speaker 3: and others involved. Their hopes. That is that this is
Speaker 3: kind of blows over and goes with quietly, and my
Speaker 3: job and his family show for his daughters, for his sons,
Speaker 3: for immediate friends and family of all of Baltimore and DC,
Speaker 3: and a broader love Sam is that you know I'm
Speaker 3: going to do all I can to fight and get
Speaker 3: the justice that Sam deserves because I know for a
Speaker 3: fact this is what he's done for me in my
Speaker 3: entire life, and I'm not going to stop fighting. In
Speaker 3: two week of justice for Big Sam.
Speaker 2: Justice for Big Sam. It is. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time today. Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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