1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native Lampid is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home, everybody. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: This is Angela Raie, your host for today's solo pod 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: for Native Lampid. Today, I just want to talk to 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: you all about Donald Christ Jesus Trump. I don't really 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: know what's going on, but let's pull this video up 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: where he addresses deciding to make himself look like Jesus 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the Christ. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Please fascinated. Did you post that picture of yourself is 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ? 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't a picture, it was me. I did 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: post it, and I thought it was me as a 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: doctor and had to do with Red Cross as a 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: Red Cross worker there, which we support. And only the 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: fake news could come up with that one. So I 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: just heard about it and I said, how did they 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 3: come up with that? It's supposed to be me as 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: a doctor making people better, and I do make people better. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: I make people a lot better. 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: So Donald Trump is saying that this image, if we 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: could put the image up, He's saying that this image 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: of him is him as a doctor. He's laying hands 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: on a sick patient. He is holding the light in 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: his hand. There are the American flag behind him and 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: egos swooping down. Of course, it's all white folks in 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: his picture, I guess because he saw the nurse to 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: the right. He was like, and there, actually, this could 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: be a doctor too. She got a steptuscle bar. So 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: he says that he is portraying himself as a doctor. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I have never seen, I have never, ever ever seen. 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: I have never seen a doctor come through with the 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: red drip on and the little white baggy cloak. 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Jesus wore air jerusalems back in the day. 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I imagine that this picture, if we could see his feet, 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: he also has on air jerusalems. I've never seen a 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: doctor come through with anything other than hokahs these. 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Days, maybe some crocs. 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Definitely not looking like this in the sick room, as 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: the old folks would say. 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: And where are his gloves? 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: So Donald Trump is trying to argue now that this 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: is not him depicting himself as Jesus the Christ. He's 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: saying that he was trying to portray himself as a doctor. 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't buy it, but I don't buy most of 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: what this man says. Somehow, y'all do so let us 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: now look at one of his staunch supporters had to 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: say about this image, as doctor Donald Trump, y'are right. So. 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines, who was a notorious conservative influencer, had this 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: to say about this image. Why, seriously, I cannot understand 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,559 Speaker 1: why he posts this? Is he looking for a response? 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Does he actually think this? 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: Yes? Riley, where are you being girl? 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Yes? He thinks this anyway? She says, either way, two 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: things are true. One, a little humility would serve him. Well, 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: there's me looking for humility for him. It's me looking 57 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: for humility for him. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: When has he ever been humble? Riley? 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Cut it out. Number Two she says, God shall not 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: be moxed. And now the church can say a man, y'all, 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: finally we agree on something. Donald Trump is not humble. 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: And two God shall not be moxed. But this is 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: what the old Black church ladies say. They say, yo, 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: sin will find you out and slowly, but Shirley, y'all 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: are starting to find out. For those of you on Instagram, 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: are on YouTube, come over. But this is what I 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: want to tell y'all. It is so important to understand 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: that this is what happens. When you worship a president 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: instead of your savior. So here we are doing this. Now, 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: here's what's amazing about this. Riley was offended. At three 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in the morning, she saw Donald Trump's response saying that 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: he was a doctor, and Riley completely changed tunes. Let's 73 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: post this next Riley tweet tweet where she's which she 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: responds to this. This is Riley at five pm or 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: six pm yesterday. She says, I love the President and 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful he's in the Oval office. Of course, 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: I'll continue to support him and the America First Agenda. 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: She says. At the end of the day, I do nothing. 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: For the approval of man. Our purpose on this earth 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: is to glorify him and all we do. Now what 81 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: him and she talk about, I think she's back to 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: worshiping Donald Trump, which I'll think the true social posts 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: missed the mark. It's now deleted. Amazing, but we still 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: see it, friend, We still see it. 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Friend. She says, we're imperfect people. I know I am. 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't get my feelings hurt easy, and I know 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: with the President it's really not personal. I want to 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: spend eternity in a real place called heaven. 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: I love for Trump to be there too. Oh, I 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: hate to break it door anyway. 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Hey, let me just stay on this sweet because I'm 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: about to get in trouble. 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll keep doing my part by speaking truth and doing 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: my best to lead others to Christ. 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: Let me tell you some whatever Christ they're serving, I don't. 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: Want nothing to do with them. I'm over here in 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Black liberation Jesus. I'm over here with Black liberation Jesus 99 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: because their Jesus is the one that had people enslaved. 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't see any difference between how Donald Trump rolls 101 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: these days. What Riley is posting him deciding that he's 102 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: a doctor in the sick room and then claiming that 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: you know that he was not trying to be Jesus 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: the Christ himself. 105 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: Yes he was. 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: We are not fooled, and yet God is still not mocked. 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what else. Speaking of racism 108 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: in the White House and in trump Land, one thing 109 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: that was really important for us to understand is how 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: important it was for law enforcement to be held accountable. 111 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Strides were made during the Obama administration to hold law 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: enforcement accountable, to put some police departments under consent decrees 113 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: where they had showed pattern and practice of racist and 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: harmfully violent behavior towards people of color. The additional strides 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: were made under Joe Biden and the Biden administration. We know, 116 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: of course that Kamala Harris, when she was a sitting Senator, 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: worked diligently to get the George Floyd Justice and Policing 118 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Act passed. But we know that we still have a 119 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: lot further to go. And so today joining me, I 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: have my good brother and friend. He's been working diligently 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: on a campaign called Justice for Big Sam. We're going 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: to talk about that and what happened in Baltimore on 123 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: February sixteenth. Joining me now is DJ Quicksilvael. 124 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. Thank you for being here. 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm blessed, but still heavy heart, still still mourning, 126 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: but at the same time trying to keep a balance 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: of fighting for justice daily, which is not easy, but 128 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, somebody has to because if I don't, and 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: if we go quiet, that's what they want. 130 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: Well, and I think that is very true. 131 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: They are used to being able to intimidate people, whether 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, victims, friends, victims, family members all of that. 133 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: We've seen this over and over again, and I got 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: to tell you it took a lot for me to 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: finally get to the point of watching the video. But 136 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: before we watch the video, which I feel personally and 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you agree, quick Silver, the video is so dehumanizing. 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I want people to understand who Samuel Brown was to 139 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: you as a fifty six year old father of six. 140 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: You say he's the reason you're in the industry. I 141 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: want you to talk to our audience a little bit 142 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: about who he was and then who he. 143 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Was to you. 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, his name is Samuel Brown, but the world knows 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: him as Big Sam, or dad or best friend. This 146 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: is a man that is, like I said, responsible for 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: my career. I met Sam back in nineteen ninety four, 148 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: going into nineteen ninety five, when I really first started 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: my career. His family owned a nightclub in Baltimore called 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: Club Indigo, and that's how I met Sam. And I 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: remember the day like was yesterday. I was a fifteen 152 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: year old kid going into a nightclub. So of course 153 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't old enough to drive for my dad was 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: dropping me off at the club and Big Sam Will 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: Samuel Brown met us at the front door, and I 156 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: remember my dad saying to him, you better take care 157 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: of my son. If y'all wan him Djam's club, take 158 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: care my son. And Sam's exact words is, and I quote, 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: nothing will happen to him that won't happen to me. First, 160 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: I got his back and he has literally been that 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety five, my right hand, my role manager, 162 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: my partner, I mean everything you know. Big Sam has 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: been everything to me. He was also a dad of six, 164 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: four girls, two boys. He once had seven kids. Unflosely 165 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 3: one of his daughters passed away, but at the moment 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: when his passing happened or the homicide happened, he currently 167 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: has four girls, two sons, just a a person that 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: his slogan was I'm on it, Because if Sam says 169 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm on it, you never had to question it. He 170 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: was the go to god, not just for Quicksilver, he 171 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: was the go to guy for everybody, for his family, 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: for his friends. Everybody knew Big Sam, everybody loved Big Sam, 173 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: everybody respected Big Sam. And at the end of the day, 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: Samuel Brown should be alive right. 175 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Now, absolutely, and to that in I think that it 176 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: is important for us to see what happened on February sixteenth, 177 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: So we're going to roll this video. 178 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: He was pulled over. 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: Well, let me stop. He wasn't pulled over. He actually 180 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: was not driving. 181 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: No I meant, I meant he was. He was police 182 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: he pulled his car over. You're right, I should have 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: phrased that differently. Why don't I let you describe what 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: happened from what you all have found out so far, 185 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: and then we'll play the video from there. 186 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the reason why I kind of stopped you 187 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: there because some of the narrative from some of the 188 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: others were saying, well, he shouldn't have been drunk driving, 189 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: and he got pulled over for drunk driving. And I 190 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: make it clear Sam's not drunk driving. Sam did what 191 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: a lot of us have done. And I'm not saying 192 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: this is right because the trigger word is who's holding 193 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: him accountable? So, unfortunately, Angela, I'm not sure if you 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: have a drink, but I drink every now then, and 195 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: if I ever felt myself too drunk to drive, Unfortunately, 196 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: what do you do? You pull over so you don't 197 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: kill anybody, so you don't kill yourself. This is not 198 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: the right thing to do. But most people, if you 199 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: know for a fact you're getting your car and you 200 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 3: realize you're too drunk, instead of killing somebody, instead of 201 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: killing yourself or harming somebody, you pull over, try to 202 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: sleep it off, and hopefully you wake up sober enough 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: to drive home. This is what he did. So he 204 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: never was pulled over for DUI. He pulled over to 205 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: the side of the road and fell asleep. When he 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: fell asleep, according to the police records, they said someone 207 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: called for a wellness check. And that is so important 208 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: to know because some of the other narrative was it 209 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: was a dui stop. It was not a dui stop. 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: He never got breathalyzed or did anything that proved that 211 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: he was actually drunk at the moment, So. 212 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance too And people see that 213 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: in the video. 214 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: Get you'll see that in the second. So the officer 215 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: was called for a wellness check, and I think that 216 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: is so important. It was not a dui stop. It 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: was a wellness check of a man who was asleep 218 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: behind the wheel when the officer arrives. And once again, 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: this is all according to the police report. So for 220 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: anybody who has an opinion, I'm just going to speak 221 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: facts from the police report he actually got. When the 222 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: officer arrived, he knocked on Sam's window. He asked Sam, 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: you know, to roll the window down. Sam rose the 224 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: window down, And unfortunately you don't see a lot of 225 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: this in the actual first video. So and we went 226 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: and before I keep going, we've been requesting the full 227 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: footage as well as the dash cam as well as everything, 228 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: so we can see everything because according to the police 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: report and what we're seeing, what you're about to show, 230 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: it takes some of the beginning out that is super 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: important for the case. So as he's rolling the window down, 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: he asks Sam, you know you're okay. Sam says, I'm fine. 233 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: You know, I'm good. The officer says, then he looked 234 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: at Sam and he Sam looked drunk. Know, anybody who 235 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: is a geneough to look at somebody and tell you 236 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: just look drunk. But he say look drunk and his 237 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: words were slurring. So at this moment this is probably 238 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: the most important part. He acts Sam to then get 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: out of the car. Sam then says, you know, if 240 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm not under arrest legally, I don't have to get 241 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: out of the car. So him and the officer I 242 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: guess exchange words. The officer Derek Hadle then opens Sam's door. 243 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: He opens Sam's door. As he opened Sam's door, you'll 244 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: see in the video, Sam puts his hands on his 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: left thigh to show that I'm not a threat. I 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: don't have any guns or weapons on me. I'm not 247 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: trying to fight you anything, because that's another nerdtive that 248 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: Sam was just aggressive. But once again you'll see in 249 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: the video, as his hands is on his left eye, 250 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: the officer and him are going back and forth, and 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: on purpose, I believe they cut this audio out of 252 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: the video that you're about to see. So as they're 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: going back and forth, you then see Officer Derek Hadele 254 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: slam Sam's door. Now, I want you to just use 255 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: your common sense. If I think this person is drunk 256 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: behind the wheel, why would I slam the door after 257 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: asking him to get out of the car. Get out 258 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: of the car. So after actioning to get out of 259 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: the car and slamming his door, you then see Samuel 260 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: Brown exit the vehicle. Because I know Sam so well 261 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: and I know his demeanor, I know for a fact 262 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hadele had to set something to change Sam's mind. 263 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: Because if I asked answer to ride to do something 264 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: a hundred times in answers no, no, no, and all 265 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: of a sudden answer becomes yes. What made you say yes? 266 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: And once again they muted this part of the audio 267 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: so the audio doesn't come in. And to the officer, 268 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I can curse, I'll used to 269 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: it says get the f back in the car. So, 270 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: once again for all the Instagram lawyers, if I think 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: a man is drunk, am I asking him to get 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: back in the vehicle? Does that make any sense? Because 273 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: you say you think he's drunk. So after access Sam 274 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: to get back or get the F back in the vehicle, 275 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: Sam then is trying to say something to him. We 276 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: can't tell exactly what Sam was trying to say. The 277 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: officer Derek Hado puts his hand on Sam's chest. At 278 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: this moment, Sam goes to swipe down to tell him 279 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: to get off of Sam actually misses he missed. Officer 280 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: Derek Cado then puts his hand again on Sam's chest. 281 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: Sam goes to swipe, he never went this way to 282 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: punch him. He puts that and he had his hands 283 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: behind his back when he first got out of the car. 284 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: You'll see that in the second as well. The show 285 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: once again, I'm not a threat. I'm not trying to 286 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: attack you or fight you. But whatever you said to me, 287 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: you're not going to disrespect me as a man. So, 288 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: after Sam tried to swipe his hand from touching him twice, 289 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Officer Derek hado illegally punched Sam in his face twice 290 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: firt once in the nose, breaking his nose once in 291 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: his shaw. From that, Samuel Brown then falls back, hits 292 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: his head and he becomes unconscious. So I'm not sure 293 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: you want to show the video that we can kind 294 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: of walk through it from there. 295 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to show the video again. For 296 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: those of you who are just tuning in. I'm on 297 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: right now with DJ quick Silva. He's talking about his 298 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: good friend picture right here. This is Big Sam and 299 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: someone who's a legend certainly to the d m V area, 300 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and right now Quicksilver is doing everything he can to 301 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: ensure justice for Big Sam. So we're talking about the 302 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: case right now. We're gonna roll this video so you 303 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: all can see some of what happened. Again, some of 304 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: that audio is muted. They're saying that it is for 305 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: investigative purposes. We can pull the video up and then 306 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: you'll also hear some of the commentary. This is the 307 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: part of the video where we can't hear, but the 308 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: officers flashing a flashlight in his face as he's sitting 309 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: parked on the side of the road. They're in some discussion. 310 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm just describing this for those who are going to 311 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: be tuned in audio only. There's some discussion. Big Sam 312 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: here is pictured in an orange vest and just slams 313 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: his door and walks away from the vehicle. And Big 314 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: Sam is now exiting the vehicle. His hands are behind 315 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: his back. As you said, he puts his hand on 316 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: his chest. 317 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: There you go. There's here. 318 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: I have a car, sir, I cladr sir his car. 319 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: So this was the part for me. Quick of a 320 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: he's punched him. 321 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: He makes some type of grunt noise at him, knows 322 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: he's unconscious, proceeds to handcuff him. It gets worse, I know, 323 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm describing it for the people who 324 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: are watching. 325 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: There's a clear gash in the back of his head. 326 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: He is bleeding from the back of his head. 327 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: He's flipped him over, called for backup and is handcuffing 328 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: unconscious Samuel Brown. He rolls him over with the handcuffs 329 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: and you see a pool of blood. He's going in 330 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: his pockets now mm hmm. I guess now he wants 331 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: to identify the man that he's knocked out unconscious, and 332 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: he begins to put on rubber gloves to I guess, 333 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: try to administer some type of aid. You can hear 334 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: him heaving breathing because he knows he's done something wrong. Yes, 335 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: he's asking for a bandage because there's a cool of blood. 336 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Under Big Sam's face. D Again, they did meet the 337 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: video here. 338 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what it means when he says he's 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: ninety five, and he keeps saying he's breathing, as if 340 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: to justify what he's done. You hear the sirens coming 341 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: for additional backup. It takes a little while for the 342 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: medics to arrive. Keep saying he's breathing quicksilver. He keeps 343 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: on saying that at this point, there's another officer on 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: the scene. This officer, the one who punched him, knocked 345 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: him unconscious. Guys a goze pad that he's now placing. 346 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: On the back of his head. 347 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: The carelessness for which they're treating him is amazing. This 348 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: is another part where the sound goes out. We don't 349 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: know what they're saying, but he's trying to apply a 350 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: gauze on it head and has put his face back 351 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: in the pool of blood. 352 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: Everyone they had they. 353 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: Have again interducted the audio here, they said to protect 354 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: the integrity of the investigation, because I still's flopping his 355 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: head around, put his head back in the pool of 356 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: blood again. 357 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: Just attach that tag on. And he noticed the calls 358 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: for backup and not for. 359 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: And he's going through his pockets again. 360 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: Because I'm sure the call was that he was a 361 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: town so he wanted to get back up when the 362 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: call should have been. But we'll get to that. 363 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 364 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I think what blows me away here is the fact 365 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: that he's applying this pressure to the back of his 366 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: head with the guz and he keeps placing his face 367 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: back in the. 368 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: Pool of blood because he was untrained and that he 369 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: had no idea. 370 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: No, I'm agreeing with you. 371 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Somebody else another officers coming with gloves on now trying 372 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: to help him. He's saying, there's a good quote good 373 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: laceration on the back of his head, they're now lifting 374 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: his head out of the blood, and there's another officer 375 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: that's come to wrap a bandage around the gauze on 376 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: his head. 377 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't know at. 378 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: What point it happens, quick Silva, but at some point 379 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: they say they need the shackles. 380 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: They need the shackles. 381 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: Because he's an animal. We need animal pictures. Well, you 382 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: can take I got he's in a recovery position. 383 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: This is as good as it's gonna get for now, y'all. 384 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Nobody deserves to be handled this way. All of this 385 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: bandaging up is happening with his hands behind his back. 386 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: This man is I've been unconscious the entire time they 387 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: bring out the shackles. I think I probably talked over 388 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: when they were saying to get the shackles. Yes, but 389 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: they are at this point shackling an unconscious man whose 390 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: face has been in the pool of his own blood 391 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: for the duration of this nick We can cut it 392 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: from here. 393 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: I want to go back to quicksilfa. 394 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: Mm hmm and one part. And you know, at this point, 395 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: I can actually watch this video without get emotional because 396 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: I've watched his video. One mega, It's okay, I watched 397 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: the video Omegan times with his family, with our attorney 398 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: Billy Murphy. I'm just analyzing every single aspect of the video. 399 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: And like you mentioned, as he is obviously unconscious and 400 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: we now know brain dead. Uh, they asked for the shackles, 401 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: which was so dehumanizing, and after shackling him, I mean, 402 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: if you were to continue watching the video, one of 403 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: the officers that were actually holding his head, he says, 404 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: and I quote, oh man, this is dead weight. Then 405 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: he starts laughing. Yes, starts laughing. So remind just as 406 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: a man who we now know his brain did. And 407 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: my question is what was so funny because there was 408 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: nothing funny about this incident. So after he's laughing, he 409 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: then of course finally the medics arrived, after minutes of 410 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: these untrained officers who you can see and have no 411 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: idea what they're doing, making matters worse. So one thing 412 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: I want to kind of just harp on is after 413 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: and once again, anything that I say, I want people 414 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: to fact check me because obviously they haven't been fact checking, 415 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: you know, things that these officers are put out there. 416 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: After actually finally getting him into the medics, get him 417 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: to the hospital, you know, Officer Derek Hado den does 418 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: and this is once again all documented in the police shuport, 419 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: but this never made the social media. He then goes 420 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: to search Sam's vehicle and hopes that he finds some 421 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: drugs or weapons, so I can now justify, you know, 422 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: why we just killed this man. So they go through 423 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: his vehicle. Of course there's no weapons in there. But 424 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: then they go through his arm brest and they find 425 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: some pills. This is all in the police report, so 426 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: I can only imagine when they found those pills, they 427 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: probably said to themselves, thank you God, we got something illegal. 428 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: We have a reason now that we can say whatever. 429 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: They go and actually test the pills, and the pills 430 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: come back. It was nothing but this medication. That's it. 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: Nothing illegal. This was his medication that he used because 432 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: he was actually sick. So now after they test these 433 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: pills and finds his medication, the officer then does a 434 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: full police report talk about how he was assaulted. And 435 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: once again, if you watch the video back again, because 436 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: according to the police report it says Samuel Brown punched 437 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: officer Derek Hadel twice, we now know that was a lie. 438 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: Samuel Brown never went this direction. He want this direction 439 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: to swipe his hand away. Now, as my lawyer, Billy 440 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: Birth he said over and over again, when Sam went 441 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: to swipe his hand twice, legally, Officer Derek Hado had options. 442 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: The first option would it could have been to lock 443 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: them up. Sir, you attempted even though you didn't assault me, 444 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: you attempted to assault me, So by law, I'm putting 445 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: you under arrest. That's what they could have done. Secondly, 446 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: let's just say Sam was aggressive. You could have tased 447 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: them and you could have pepper sprayed them, or you 448 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: could have did what you're trained to do, call for backup. 449 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hado. He completely ignored all the legal things 450 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: that he was trained to do and he went street. 451 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: If you try to assault me, I'm gonna beat you up. 452 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: That's the street mentality. Unfortunately, when you become an officer 453 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: of the law, you don't have the right to punch 454 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: me legally, especially when you know for a fact I'm 455 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 3: not a threat. There's no drugs, no guns or weapons 456 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: on me. I'm not assaulting you. Officer Derek Hado then 457 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: punches him twice. A thing. 458 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to know you do you do anything wrong? 459 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: I want to get into this a little bit because 460 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: I think it's so important. So again, this happened February 461 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: sixteenth of this year. He was unconscious for eleven days. 462 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: Of course, Big Sam passed on February twenty seventh, But 463 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: this was not officer Derek Baltimore County Officer Derek Hato's 464 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: first issue with police misconduct. He was investigated for a 465 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: policeman misconduct in twenty twenty three after a deadly car crash. 466 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: He was assigned to counseling. In addition to that, his 467 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: own wife, Oh no, I'm sorry. Before we even get 468 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: to his wife, he was also found guilty of damaging 469 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: a police car where he didn't properly report what happened 470 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty four. In fact, he said that 471 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: nothing happened, that there was no damage to any vehicle involved. 472 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And then I also think it's important for people to 473 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: understand that Derek Cato's own wife, his own wife, said 474 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: that he. 475 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Got irate. 476 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: This is a direct quote from an article in The 477 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: Banner three years prior to either of the car accidents, 478 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: both of the ones that I reference happening in the 479 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: same year. She filed a petition for protective order against 480 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: her husband after an argument turned violent. It says Derek 481 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Cato got irate and began smashing furniture, screaming at me 482 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: in front of our kids, and a broke door and 483 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: broke a door. His wife wrote the petition quote, he 484 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: threatened to break everything if I didn't come upstairs with him. 485 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: Now they ended up dismissing this request because she did 486 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: not appear. And we know normally what happens when people 487 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: opt not to appear, there's some type of threat or intimidation. 488 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: But I think is so important here, Quicksilvan, you know 489 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: I always got to tie a policy lens into this. 490 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: This is why people wanted those accountability measure put in 491 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: place with the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. This 492 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: is why that police accountability database that the Department of 493 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: Justice got rid of earlier this year, to help us 494 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: understand when officers change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction or state 495 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: to state, what their background says they are capable of. 496 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: And thank God for investigative reporting. We know this about 497 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: officer Hadel, but you all are saying this man should 498 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: not be on the street. He does not deserve to 499 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: wear the badge at all. 500 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: He definitely should not deserve the wor the badge. And 501 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: as of this second, he still has not been fired. 502 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 3: He's been on the administrative leabers man. He's pretty much 503 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: just getting paid to be home. And this is something 504 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 3: actually I'm not sure I told you this when he 505 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: was in the hospital for twelve hours before his first 506 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: of Kim was even contacted, which was his daughter and myself. 507 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: And the question we were asking, you know, of course 508 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: the Baltimore County Police Department and the hospital, is that, 509 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: why did it take you twelve hours to actually reach 510 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: out to us? What were you doing for twelve hours? 511 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: And we now know trying to get their story together 512 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: because when I finally or rived to the hospital, what 513 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: I was told, and I wish that I was smart 514 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: enough to get the officer's name, but I'm forced here 515 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: at this point. I thought that this happened from a 516 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: slip and fall. When we first arrived to the hospital, 517 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: I was told by the officers that were there that 518 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: Sam was pulled over. Sam got out the car. When 519 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Sam got the car kind of being religion to the officer, 520 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: I quote they said the officer had to use force. 521 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: And when the officer used force, Sam slipped on ice 522 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 3: and hit his head. This is what I was told, 523 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: Sam slipped on ice and hit his head. We now 524 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: know that was a line. Like I said my first 525 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: initial pressure port, I said, if there's one live, we 526 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 3: knew there's other lives. It wasn't until Sam got out 527 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: of surgery and when he got back to his room 528 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: and I'm looking at him, and once again I'm thinking 529 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: that Sam got into it with the police. They got 530 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: to some altercation and Sam actually slipped and hit his head. 531 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. At the moment when he comes 532 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: out and I'm looking at him, I see it at 533 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: his nose was bandshed up, he has a black eye, 534 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: and the whole back of his skull is literally off. 535 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 3: So I'm looking at him and I'm saying, all this 536 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: happened from a slipping fall. Because once again, y'all never 537 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: told us that Officer Derek hadle illegally punched them twice. 538 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: They just completely didn't say that part. So as I'm 539 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 3: looking at him over and over again, I'm talking to 540 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: his daughter's like, all this happened from a slipping fall, 541 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: and thank god, you know, we start asking questions to 542 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: the nurses and the doctors, but of course legally they 543 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: couldn't say but so much. But one of the nurses 544 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: had I said, I looked at it. I looked at 545 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: my eyes and said, are you sure this happened from 546 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 3: a slipping fall? And there was was You know, I 547 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: can't say, but all I can say is you need 548 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: a lawyer. And from that moment I knew that there 549 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: was injustice. I just didn't know what. And then day 550 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: by day things started coming out about all the lies 551 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: that were told, and then now we know that the 552 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: officer punched them. And then of course we hire our attorney, 553 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: Billy Burphy, who really looks into it. And then every 554 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: single day we started finding out a lie after a 555 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: lie after a lie. And then the first three days 556 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: they actually had officers in the hospital room from twenty 557 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: four to seven claiming that he was under arrest. After 558 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: three days, all of a sudden, the officers leave. So 559 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, was he under arrest or was he not 560 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: un arrest? Because why are you leaving? Now? I'm positive, 561 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: but after the three days, and once again this is 562 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: just my opinion, after the three days of them watching 563 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: the video and realizing it, somebody told somebody y'all can 564 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: leave now. 565 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: That's right. 566 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: I wonder now, just given where we are, the fact 567 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: that you all have uncovered so much, what you're asking 568 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: the community to do, you all still don't have all 569 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: the information. There's still parts of this video certainly that 570 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: are redacted from an audio perspective. I know you want 571 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: a thorough investigation, but you also have some expectations for 572 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: this officer. 573 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: What are you asking the community to do right now? 574 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: To weigh in first and foremost can tell you're saying 575 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: this name Samuel Brown aka Big Sam, because unfortunately you 576 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: know this and other it's because we're in media. If 577 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: the public is not outraised, they take their time. If 578 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: the publisher gets outraised enough, these investigations can actually happen 579 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: in a month. If no one's talking about it, they 580 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: can take years to make this investigation happen. So my 581 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: ask is we have to continue keeping the noise. Of course, 582 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: our attorney, Billy Murphy is doing all he can every 583 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: single day behind the scenes, fighting for this. Of course, 584 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: every day I'm posting about it, I'm talking about my 585 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: radio show. But like you said to when you first 586 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: reached out, it can't just be us. We need we 587 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: need more people bringing awareness to this case and actually 588 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: doing your homework, because unfortunately, you know, the public opinion 589 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: was kind of split because a video came out and 590 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: it just completely all the video show was Sam getting 591 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: out the car and then officer punching Sam. So some 592 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, Sam shouldn't have got 593 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: out of the car, not knowing the officer asked him to 594 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: get out the car. So so much of the facts 595 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: were there which had people believing that Sam just randomly 596 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: got off the car and tried to fight this officer. 597 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: That one hundred percent is not true. So I want 598 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: people to do your own homework, do your due diligence, 599 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: actually look into this case. The police record is public records, 600 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: so actually read the police records and then asks yourself, 601 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: is what the police saying? The exact same thing with 602 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: Egland with you're watching in this video and now this's 603 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: gonna be no, no, and no. So with that being said, 604 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: the acts right now is that we're acting the officer. 605 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: Baltimore County Officer Derrik Hade will be fired first and 606 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: after fire, we want them charged because we now know 607 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: that this was a homicide. So now that we know 608 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: that this was a homicide, which means he was killed 609 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: at the hands off of Officer Derrik Hadell. I'm not 610 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: gonna say his first agree because I don't think this 611 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: was intentional. I think that he just thought that. You know, 612 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: this is an officer that we now know has anger problems, 613 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: and always say, if a man beats his wife at home, 614 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: what do you think you're gonna do to a person 615 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: in the streets. So you know, our ass is that 616 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: Officer Derek Hit'll be fired and charged, and from there 617 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: we can continue to fight for justice. 618 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: I can agree with you more, Quicksilver. 619 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: I will just say one other ask that I have 620 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: for you all is to please reach out to the 621 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: Maryland State Attorney General asking them to promptly investigate and 622 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: thoroughly investigate this matter. You can reach them at four 623 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: one zero five seven six seven zero seven zero. Again 624 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: that's four one zero five seven six seven zero seven zero. 625 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: The ask is for justice for Big Sam. The ask 626 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: is for truth to be told. The ask is for 627 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: violent law enforcement officers to be taken off our streets. 628 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: They can't handle interacting with our people, and we shouldn't 629 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: have to interact with them. Our taxpayer dollars pay them 630 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: and so we deserve to stay alive and they ought 631 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 1: to be held accountable. So quick stilve. I'm so grateful 632 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: for your time today. Any partying words you have. 633 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: Man, I will to say thank you for taking the 634 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: time out, for allowing me to be on your program 635 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: and help me to spread this word because, like you say, 636 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: it's powers numbers. When we come together, you know we 637 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: can't be defeated. And like I said, their hopes. When 638 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: I say they, I mean the Baltimore County Police Department 639 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: and others involved. Their hopes. That is that this is 640 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: kind of blows over and goes with quietly, and my 641 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: job and his family show for his daughters, for his sons, 642 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: for immediate friends and family of all of Baltimore and DC, 643 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: and a broader love Sam is that you know I'm 644 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: going to do all I can to fight and get 645 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: the justice that Sam deserves because I know for a 646 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: fact this is what he's done for me in my 647 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: entire life, and I'm not going to stop fighting. In 648 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: two week of justice for Big Sam. 649 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: Justice for Big Sam. It is. Thank you so much 650 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: for your time today. Welcome home, y'all. 651 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. 652 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 653 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: reisent Choice Media. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visits iHeartRadio app, 654 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.