1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: On today's episode, a little bit of news and a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: handful of group of five schedules. Welcome to the solid 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: verbal hull that. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy. You 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: want to be happy for a day? Edith state is that? 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: And no, Dan and. 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Tie, welcome back to the solid Verba boys and girls. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: My name is ty Hill Embrad. That fine gentleman over 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: there as always the illustrious looking Tan from his time 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: in Spain. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? Oh? 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: You know how I do? Tie? Spending all that time 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: in Barcelona barth you gota now? I actually I spent 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: a lot of that time walking around and thinking about 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: college football and college football podcasting. Despite my best efforts, 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: I was checking like the college football subreddit and all 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: the different sources I have for college football information. And 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: I also, this is totally true and this will be 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: a really cruise segue opportunity for you. Did you see 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: that an Alabama fan spotted Nick Saban and Florence. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Spotted in Italy, Rick Riley spotted him in Rome. There 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: were other, yes, Alabama alums that spotted him elsewhere in Italy. 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: I was eagle eyed, not just looking for Nick Saban, 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: but any other major college football coach on vacation in Europe, 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: and all I saw was Ryan Day. No, that was 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: a joke. 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: That was nice. 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: That was not nice, Ty, Why would I do that? 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: He's a very good coach. 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: But no, I did have my eyes open to try 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: and spot someone, just like, what is Nick Saban going 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: to look like? Eating patatas Bravas? 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and wearing free Alabama gear. Yes, he was sporting 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Alabama gear all throughout Italy, throughout Europe. Welcome back to 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the show. I'm Ty, He's Dan. Today. A little bit 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: later on in today's episode, we're going to go through 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: twelve group of five schedules. Go back and listen to 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the Power five Conference schedule previews that we did. Those 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: were the last five episodes. We started with the Big 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Ten in the SEC. We rolled through last week, the 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: PAC twelve and ACC and then our first episode this week. 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Earlier this week on Tuesday was the Big twelve. We've 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: got a selection of teams, the Dirty dozen or so, 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: a group of five teams that were of particular interest 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: to Dan and I were going to give those teams 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the same treatment. We obviously can't get to all of them, 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: but we're going to do our level best. If you 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: like the show, hit subscriber follow, please go on out 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: on social media if that is a thing that you have, 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: and you can follow us if you want to. That'd 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: be nice. However, it would be more appropriate at this 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: juncture to just share the Soloverbal with your friends. Let 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: people know what it is that we do. Here. We 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: are welcoming new folks into the verballerhood under our umbrella 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: Ella Ella Dan. We are very excited to that, very 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: excited to invite new folks under the big tent. That 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: is the verbal going out to Bawlers dot com if 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: you are ever so inclined, if you really want to 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: help support what we do, and of course we post 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: videos all the time, five days a week at a 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: minimum out on our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: at Soliverbal, slash the Soliverbal, whichever nomenclature you prefer. 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have nothing left to add. I don't think 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: should we get into. 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Stall hold on? Hold on? Now you do have something 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: to hold on? You blew up my spot on the 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: last episode. Now here's what you did. What I've been 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: trying to do is keep these episodes self contained and 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: focused almost entirely on schedule previews, because my thought is 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: people can go back later after the fact and they 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: can download, and they can listen, and then they can 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: roll into previews, then we can roll right into week one. 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: We're trying to pave the way for the college football 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: fan of a month and a half two months from 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: now who wants to get caught up to speed. Are you? 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: Are you going to deny me the opportunity to co 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: host and then conto themed college football show. You're not 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: going to squeeze in time to what some day. 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: Now, what I'm saying is you come back from Spain, 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you're shut out of a canon, You've got all the 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: right energy, and you interrupt my flow by saying, should 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: we talk about news? No? Now we talk about hi? 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I don't know that it fast forward this 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: If this is something you're listening to in late July 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: or something, this is. 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: BTS coverage right here. You're getting. That's true, the excess 88 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: content that you've always desired. You have sec eight game 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: conference schedule. Thoughts do you not? 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's just because it is early June, late May, 91 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: when all of this was happening, when it's not necessarily 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: the most robust time for college football news. But and 93 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: I saw I think it was Scott doctor man if 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing that correctly from the Athletic posted how many 95 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Power five opponents to teams from the Big twelve, Big ten, SEC, ACC, 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: PAC twelve are all playing? And it's like ten eleven, ten, nine, 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: SEC two are playing two SEC teams are playing ten 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Power five opponents. 99 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I believe teams playing at least ten Power five opponents. 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, the SEC is two of fourteen, 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: the ACC is ten of fifteen. I'm assuming they're counting 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Notre Dame in there. 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Yep. 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve is ten of twelve, the Big twelve 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: is eleven excuse me, eleven or fourteen, and the Big 106 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: ten is thirteen of fourteen. So the SEC, at least 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: in that sense bringing up the rear. 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Yes in that sense. And so there was a vote, 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: and some schools like Alabama Nick Saban were more in 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: favor of eight. And some of that has to do 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: with the fact that, like, okay, if we're going to 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 2: go to nine. Are we going to have the three 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: permanent rivalry games and then the rotation of six? Right? 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: The pod ish situation they're scheduling for the SEC with 115 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Alabama likely, you know, whatever it is that they do 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: go to nine, because it seems inevitable. It would be 117 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: what LSU Auburn and Tennessee, and Nick Saban was like, well, 118 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: that's not fair, as if they already don't play them 119 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: every season. 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: He is here is the context right for anyone who 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: just landed here. Yes, the SEC is adding two new 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: teams next year, Texas and Oklahoma. They become a sixteen 123 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: team conference. It was widely assumed that they were going 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: to get rid of their divisions next season. Of course 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: they put that through, But also there was this open 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: question about how many conference games do we want to play? 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: The two options were eight conference games and one annual 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: rival including one annual rival, or nine conference games including 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: three annual rivals. We took a poll out on our newsletter. 130 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Ninety seven percent of the respondent's favored nine games. But 131 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: if you believe Brett McMurphy, our friend who we've had 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: on the show, only Florida, Georgia, LSU Missouri, and Texas, 133 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: A and M voted in favor when they put it 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to vote at the SEC meetings. Texas and Oklahoma reportedly 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: are in favor as well well, but being so, they're 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: not actually in the SEC yet, they don't have a vote. 137 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: So you can do the math, you can figure out 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: who voted this down. You've got teams like Alabama, you've 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: got old Mississippi State. You can again figure this out 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: in your own time. But my sense, Dan, from what 141 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: you're describing here is if you're the SEC, if you're 142 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: seeing that two of fourteen number, despite the fact that 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: you've got arguably the best conference in college football, you 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: should still want to play more of your own. 145 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's complicated, So I am of the 146 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: mind that and the reason that what Greg Sankie talked about, 147 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: and the reason the conference as a whole, what they 148 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: talked about is the story is that they went to Disney, 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: ESPN their bosses. Let's be very clear. SEC football is 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: a television program. And if you think it's all the history, 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: oh the command, No, No, it's a TV show. We've all 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: decided because the conference has said we're going to be 153 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: funded by Disney or Fox newscorpt whatever that we are 154 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: TV shows. And so there's one of three situations that 155 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: we're either existing within or could have happened. One Disney 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: slash ESPN said we want nine games a year immediately 157 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: with this new deal, and the SEC said nope, And 158 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: that was a negotiation. That was a plot point in 159 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: that negotiation. Two ESPN and Disney said, we want to 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: keep our hands off, right, you guys are the sports people, 161 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: and we just want the good inventory. Whatever that is, 162 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: we'll show it, you know, ABC Saturdays, all that stuff, 163 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: and you know, we feel like we're overstepping. And three 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: is let's just agree that you will go to nine 165 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: games and you can decide on the timing in the 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: next three years. If you want to do it this year, great, 167 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: If you want to do it in two years, great, 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: If you want to do in three years great. And 169 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: so there will be votes. I don't know which of 170 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: those is true. Maybe there's a fourth thing. I don't 171 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: know that. That's where my mind went. And so the 172 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Nick Sabing thing is funny because when you look listen 173 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: to some of his quotes, it's like it's a lot 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: of change all at once. That's all it's a very 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: old man like the breakfast hours at my favorite diner change, 176 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going on, Like, there was 177 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: that element to what he talked about, and I'm oversimplifying 178 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's more complicated whatever, But he did 179 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: have quotes that were like, you know, if we go 180 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: to this and then we want non conference games with 181 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: Power five teams, what we're really talking about is eight 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: is nicer for Bowl eligibility because teams that are playoff 183 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: worthy in the SEC likely twelve. The gulf between twelve 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: and zero and ten and two probably still gets you 185 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: into the playoff regardless depending on obviously the context of 186 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: those two losses. Whatever. It's bad for football. It's bad 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: for the sport to play eight conference games. I think 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: we would all agree when you could play nine, when 189 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: you could charge more of a premium, when you could 190 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: give your own fans a better product instead of charging 191 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: them for Mercer or Samford or sam Houston. All due 192 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: respect to those programs, but that's a bad product. If 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: you're you know, an LSU fan and you're like, Wow, cool, 194 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: I get to watch this, So I think we're absolutely 195 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: going to get there. It's inevitable. But at the same time, 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: going back to the TV show thing, and you know 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: this because you're I mean, you're the community you run 198 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: in with all those big actors and stuff. Sure know 199 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: how this works, I know it. But the industry as such, 200 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: we're like, okay, So, if this is a TV show, 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: you are being paid for the number of episodes that 202 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: you are contractually obligated to do. And so if the 203 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: SEC said our deal is this, it's X will play 204 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: eight games and Disney said, fine deal, why would you 205 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: give somebody something extra at the same risk. 206 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Well, right, And this is what Jeff Schultz wrote over 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: on the Athletic and I read this quote verbatim from 208 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: the Athletics college Football Twitter account. Maybe this eight conference 209 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: game schedule charade is just a dance to squeeze more 210 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: money out of the Sure, here's a thought, do the 211 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: right thing first. So he's advocating, yes, we should go 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: to nine games per season, it's better for the sport. However, 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: there is that added dimension of the business and how 214 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: much are they being paid? And does ESPN even want 215 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: to give more money into the SEC? I would imagine 216 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: they'd be on board for it, But nonetheless, I can't 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: speak for them, so it's complicated on the surface. I 218 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: think from our perspective, just as fans, of course, you 219 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: want to see nine, and why wouldn't you do nine, 220 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you preserve three rivalries a year? Rivalries? And 221 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: the argument that I made is that I want to 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: see as many rivalries preserved as I can, especially in 223 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: this day and age where it seems like they're kind 224 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: of an afterthought in the wake of some of the 225 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: big money moves that we've seen on the media side. 226 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: But that being what it is, it is a lot 227 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: more nuanced and complicated a discussion because of all the 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: contractual stuff that we will no doubt hear a lot 229 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: more about here in the coming days and weeks, especially 230 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: with all the pack well stuff swirling. Yeah. 231 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is not a sport that is 232 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: for its fans. It's not a sport that's for the 233 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: health of its own sports at any level. Right we 234 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: have all these little fiefdoms that like, if we had conferences, 235 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: if we had people running the sport that we're looking 236 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: out for the long term health of the sport, we 237 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't have any of this right now. The big ten's 238 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: looking out for the Big ten. The SEC is looking 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: out for the SEC, ESPN's looking out for ESPN. There's 240 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: nobody actually saying what is healthy for people who want 241 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: to enjoy the sport but haven't yet started or have 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: been enjoying the sport for forty years. None of that 243 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: is considered, right, none of you look at how much 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: does it cost to park at a meaningless game in September? Right, 245 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: It's it's all garbage. So all of these conferences, all 246 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: of these TV networks, everybody's just getting it while the 247 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: getting's good. It's not gonna last forever, and we'll see 248 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: what happens. But that's why we are where we are. 249 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: And so the only way you can change this as fan, 250 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: go to the games against crappy at CS opponents. 251 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Boycott. 252 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: Don't go buy a VPN and stream it illegally. I 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not saying definitely do this, but if 254 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: you feel passionately about it, go tailgate with your friends 255 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: outside of the stadium and watch it on a TV 256 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: again illegally outside and force a bunch of sports writers 257 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: to canvass the internet with a shot of fifty thousand 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: empty seats at Bryan Danny or wherever. That's your only 259 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: real recourse is shaming these people. Otherwise we'll get there 260 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: it's a bad product, and you'll have people like Jimbo 261 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 2: Fisher say like it's important for the health of the 262 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: sport to play an FCS program to keep that alive, 263 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: and then they go recruit the best players from those 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: FCS programs to fill out their rosters every January. Nobody's 265 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: actually looking out for the health of the sports now. 266 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: And so what I say, watch the games you want 267 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: to watch, don't watch the games you don't want to watch, 268 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: and just be merry and be happy. 269 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: It's something we said for a long time that nobody's 270 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: running this. It's part of what makes it interesting and 271 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: part of what gives us a charm. It also makes 272 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: it always being on the brink of total annihilation. Yes, 273 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: we are always just a stiff breeze away from the 274 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: whole thing going bust. 275 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, if somebody you were at a day job 276 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: more recently than I was, I've been doing this crazy, 277 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: weird media stuff for a long time. If somebody said 278 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: to you above, you said, hey, exact same job, ty, 279 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: We're paying you the exact same money. You're doing the 280 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: exact same work. Also, you're going to manage one hundred 281 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: more people than you did last year. We're not going 282 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: to pay you any extra. It's many more hours and responsibilities, 283 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: but same bottom line for you. I don't know if 284 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: that's the best thing that would run through your brain. 285 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Right. No, And by the way, that happens all the 286 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: time to people. 287 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: It happens all the time, which is terrible. 288 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: As shame and it sucks, but that is the reality 289 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: in which we live. 290 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the SEC has the leverage to say, nah, nah, 291 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: that's why we're here. 292 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: They will get there in due time. I think it's 293 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: a matter of when, not if. But at least for 294 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: the inaugural season featuring Texas and Oklahoma, we're going to 295 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: see eight conference games, including that one annual rival elsewhere 296 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: on the conference side of things. Just a few notes 297 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: that we'll throw out there, quote unquote substantive talks. If 298 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: you believe Dennis Dodd, between Colorado and the Big Twelve, 299 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: it seems as oh, the Colorado seems as though, excuse me, 300 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: the Colorado to Big Twelve rumors have persisted. I don't 301 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: know if we are any closer to that actually happening 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: or not. I feel like each week comes and goes, 303 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: we hear about four new rumors. The one thing that 304 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I do think is interesting, you know, I've been following 305 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: it pretty closely, is the whole aspect of San Diego 306 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: State potentially joining the PAC twelve PAC ten, whatever number 307 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: it ends up being at the end of summer. From 308 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: what I understand, there's a bit of a buy out 309 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: deadline of sorts at the end of June, so if 310 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, it would financially behoove the Aztecs 311 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: to make that move before the end of the month. 312 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: We had been hearing for a while, you might recall 313 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: earlier in the springtime, we were going to know by 314 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: the end of the NCAA tournament where things stood with 315 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: this PAC twelve media deal that they're in the process 316 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: of negotiating. That was bumped until later this summer. George 317 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Kleevkov needed a little bit more time. Rumors of ESPN 318 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: maybe being in maybe not being in Fox sort of 319 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: taking a wait and see approach. It seemed as if 320 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: the major networks were really just waiting for some sort 321 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: of deal to fall off the back of a truck, 322 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: not really willing to go out there and invest heavily 323 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: in order to get the product. But if it's available 324 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and if there's a deal to be had, they'd be 325 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: foolish to not take it. I don't know where things 326 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: stand on that front. I feel again like we hear 327 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: something different every month, every week. But alas Colorado deciding 328 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: that it decides at some point to leave the PAC 329 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: twelve and go over to the Big twelve would definitely 330 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: create a shockwave. It would be the kind of thing 331 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: that I think would ultimately lead to the demise of 332 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. Of course, it's a very fantastic angle 333 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: that we will cover in due time, only if we 334 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: have to, because we're not rooting for it. But that's 335 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: coming down the pike. Will we will find out, I 336 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: think soon enough. 337 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: Did you see the end of that story, the dentist 338 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: Odds story about Colorado having substantive talks with the Big twelve? 339 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: Did I feel like it was tagged at the end, 340 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: like it was sort of like an afterthought, But it 341 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: was like not to mention Brett Yormark is the strongest 342 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: and most handsome man to be a conference commissioner, and 343 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was it was sort of out of place. 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: This kind is very kind. 345 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: And just like you know, he's he has a morning 346 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: regimen that you know, all of his doctors say he's 347 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: got the body of a thirty year old, and it's 348 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: just like, wow, this is this is a very detailed 349 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: look at Brett Yormark. But look, kudos to all of that. 350 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Reporting, drinking straight from the Big Twelve fire hose when 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: we write the articles. 352 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if the best of Colle Colorado happens, which 353 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: I say is less likely than the worst of Colorado 354 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: happening in the next two years, just because I overhauling 355 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: a roster like this, and if it works, Dion's gone. 356 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: If it doesn't work, Deon's gone. So the Big twelve 357 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: is getting themselves a Rutgers and so congratulations guys, if 358 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: that happens, if it comes to pass. You know, hope 359 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: it works out for Colorado fans. Honestly, and I'm big 360 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: genuine here, I hope it works out for Colorado fans 361 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: because they had a once proud degree of fandom rooting 362 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: for the Buffs and they've been the clear worst team 363 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: in the Pac Twelve over the last decade. Oh yeah, 364 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: and are making moves because they happen to be near Denver, 365 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: so I hope it works out genuinely for the Colorado 366 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: fans who have watched a ton of terrible football the 367 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: last decade or something. 368 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: There's absolutely a little bit of Randy Quaid at the 369 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: end of Independence Day with this, yeah, where they're just 370 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: going in cleats up, They're flying to the mothership and saying, 371 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: be damned, this is our chance to do what's best 372 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: for us and to make a statement. And I feel 373 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: bad for the fan base. It's a great fan base. 374 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: It's a great place for the college football team. There's 375 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of tradition there. It was always, you know, 376 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: I think met with mixed emotions when they decided to 377 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: leave the Big twelve at all. Yeah, we'll find out 378 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: for sure if they decide they want to jump back 379 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: into things with the Brett your Mark era version of 380 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Yahi twelve. 381 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we'll see what happens. And I will watch 382 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: a lot of Big twelve football. I will watch Colorado 383 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: and see what happens with them. I will obviously pay 384 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: attention to this story. It would be kind of weird 385 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: to have San Diego State in the Pac twelve. But 386 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 2: college football has changed and it's time to accept that 387 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: it's just going to move around constantly. And that's the 388 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: sport we love and cherish and at times hate. And 389 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what this means. 390 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm we'll say all right, well here, we'll say let's 391 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: go to more of a feel good story. Maybe, I 392 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: don't know. It depends where you stand in this. We 393 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: actually have not talked about this since you came back. Okay, 394 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: the cheese at bo is dead. Long live the pop 395 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Tarts Bowl, Dan, Okay, pop Tarts Bowl, So another hyphenated 396 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: junk food taking over the mantle? Pop Tarts guy, Like. 397 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: Where you're going? 398 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: You give your kids pop tarts? Where do you stand 399 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: on pop as a food group? 400 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: Really? I'm sure eventually they'll have some, but you know, 401 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: you try to make it last as long as possible, 402 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: giving them real food, all the respect to the wonderful people. 403 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: Is it Kellogg's? Is that who makes pop Dart? 404 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: Yes? I believe so. 405 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: I pop tarts are fine, they're tasty, they're science right, 406 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: It's uh. I don't know if this means that the 407 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: deal for that bowl in that bowl sponsorship just didn't 408 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: do enough for the cheese at brand or they just 409 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: like it was just always going to be an experiment 410 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 2: for a couple of years and they move forward. Are 411 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: there multiple cheese At Bowls? Were there multiple cheese At Bowls? 412 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: They just move the location. 413 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: I mean they've they've put on a cheese At Bowl, uh, 414 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years running. And I think 415 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: there were other kind of sponsorships as well. But I 416 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: posted out on our Instagram, on Twitter, on Facebook sort 417 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: of the long, sordid tale that got us to the 418 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: pop Tarts Bowl. This is a game that started back 419 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: in the nineties as a Blockbuster Bowl. It's been renamed 420 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: ten times. Now it's the pop Tarts Bowl. These these 421 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: sponsorships change hands incredibly quickly, and outside of some of 422 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: the majors, you know, there's really a lot in the 423 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: bowl world that has turned over over the last twenty 424 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: thirty years or so. So it's interesting. It was funny 425 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: when cheez It got it to begin with. I'll tell 426 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you this, The question that I got the most was 427 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: not about you know, it was not sort of the 428 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: sad emoji or anything like that. It was are they 429 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: going to dump a big vat of pop Tarts on 430 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the winning coach? 431 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: Oh that. First of all, I just looked it up. 432 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: The cheese a Bowl was in Arizona originally. Now it's 433 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: the Guaranteed Rate Bowl, right right. Then it shifted to Florida. 434 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Shifted to Florida. Yeah, they showered their lop tarts bowl. Yeah. 435 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: One, you do not dump a cooler full of cheese. 436 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: It's onto the winning coach. You very slowly dump a 437 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: sludgy cooler of frosting onto the coach. Or this is 438 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: a duke's Mayo situation for you. Well, Mayo runs out 439 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: of a cooler a lot faster than frosting. I presume 440 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: only if you put water in. It's water down. That 441 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: Remember when they boked Shane Beemer on the head, they 442 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: bomped them on the head because it was watered down. 443 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: No, they boked them on the head because it wasn't 444 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: watered down and they were trying to get basically concrete. Yes, 445 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: so the next year they watered it down, and then 446 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: it was obviously much more disgusting. But you know, if 447 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: you keep frosting hot enough or at least tepid enough. 448 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: You're the baker between the two of us, you should 449 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: know this. I would think it becomes more fluid and 450 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: you could dump it out. You just can't get it off. 451 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: It dries like wax. 452 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: The actual pop tart is a pretty uninteresting visual because 453 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: it's just sort of a rectangle slapped with frosting and 454 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: sometimes sprinkles or something on top of it. I think, 455 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: I think where the pop Tart Bowl has to go 456 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: is they have to lean into incorporating a giant toaster 457 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: in an end zone, whether it's like some sort of 458 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: object or pyrotechnic coming out of the firework upon a 459 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: touchdown or a field goal or something like that. The toaster, 460 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: I feel like, is the literal and figurative electricity behind 461 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: the pop tart. That's what needs to be incorporated. Now 462 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give I'm not gonna go fully 463 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 2: giving the pop Tart Bowl a plan, because that's what 464 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: the geniuses on Madison Avenue are paid for. But I say, 465 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: lean into the toaster, and maybe the winning coach does 466 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: something with a toaster of it. I don't know what 467 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: that is. If there's a trampoline the bottom of it 468 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 2: and the head coach gets to jump out, but then 469 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: we could be dealing with like a Mike Loxley torn 470 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: acl I don't want that. I don't want that. Nobody's 471 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: in favor of that, But yeah, I say incorporate that. 472 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: And I don't know what else you do if you 473 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: like snap, crackle and pop like the first the opening 474 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: coin toss or something. I don't know, but good for 475 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: the pop tart brand. My assumption is they did not 476 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: pay a lot of. 477 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: Money elsewhere, and we'll close out with this before we 478 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: get to our group of five schedule preview. Gary Barta, 479 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: remember that crazy guy. He's been the IOWA ad since 480 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, I want to say, like seventeen 481 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: years or so. The vast majority of the kirk fair 482 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: at Sarah at IOWA, Gary Barta announced that he is 483 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: retiring as of this August. For the time being. His deputy, 484 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Beth Getz are goods. I'm not exactly sure how you 485 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: say it. Getz is going to be the interim athletic director. 486 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Stands to reason that she's the obvious candidate to take 487 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: over on a full time basis. IOWA has stated that 488 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to search officially I think until twenty 489 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: twenty four to find their long term replacements. Soci'll have 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a I don't know, runway to figure 491 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: out what's going on and establish herself as the new 492 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: head Houn show. The interesting tidbit, I think for our 493 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: purposes here we poke a lot of fun at Iowa 494 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and the offense and Kirk Ferns where the program is headed. 495 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: She has only been there since twenty eighteen when she 496 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: came over from Ball State, so she is not an 497 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Iowa lifer in the sense and at least not in 498 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: the same way that Gary Barta has been. Would this 499 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: be enough to potentially want to change things around not 500 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: having that allegiance to the Farences in the same way. 501 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's probably wishful thinking. The guy's got 502 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: a contract through twenty twenty nine. But it's just interesting 503 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: because these little ripples sometimes can have a big impact 504 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: a couple months down the line when folks start thinking 505 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: about the permanence of their job and where they want 506 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: to take programs. I don't know, just something to keep 507 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: your eye on. 508 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he has enough time left on 509 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: his deal that it's going to be ultimately up to 510 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: the people who donate money to Iowa and Iowa football 511 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: to say, all right, we'll foot the bill for the 512 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: buyout and you know, I assume because I was one 513 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: of those programs that treasure's continuity and familiarity. Obviously, Cook 514 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: ference being there for as long as he has and 515 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: given the leeway to improve things when things are down, 516 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, prove that he is capable as 517 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: of a few years ago, running the table during the 518 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: regular season. He'll be given every opportunity to coach as 519 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: long as he wants, unless they spend a ton of 520 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: money for some sort of outsider who has the reputation 521 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: for hiring Austin college football coaches. It doesn't seem like 522 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: that's going to be the Iowa way, And so I 523 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: suspect we're going to see more Farens, even if it's 524 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: just one Farence on this staff. 525 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: We shall see. That's all I got, Dan, in terms 526 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: of news, If you are ready to dive in, let's 527 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. You got that sound still? 528 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: Of course, I don't. 529 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Here we go. Let's start with Tulane. 530 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yes. 531 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: Again, we picked out twelve inch group of five teams. 532 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: I will emphasize these are not the only interesting group 533 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: of five teams. Yeah, these were just the ones we 534 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: had time for at the end of this episode. Tulane, 535 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: by the way, went twelve and two last year. They 536 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: beat USC in the bowl game. It was a really 537 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: good season. I like where Tulane's at. Tulane this year 538 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: has an over under of nine and a half and 539 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: they're in a great spot, I think for two separate reasons. 540 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: First Off, they bring a lot back from the team 541 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: last year, notably Michael Pratt, who at one point was 542 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: transferring until he wasn't. They will be without Taj Spears, 543 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Taj Spears, excuse me, some guys on defense, though they 544 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: did do a good job I think in the portal 545 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: building their defense back up. We could talk more about 546 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Tulane and we get the previous season, notably with respect 547 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: to this schedule, though since he, Houston, and UCF all left, 548 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: they all left the American to join the Big Twelve, 549 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: which means that Tulane kind of has an inside track 550 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: on getting back to the tai game in the American. 551 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: The non con games on this schedule are against South Alabama. 552 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: South Alabama and the Jags had a really good season 553 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: last year, and Ole Miss. They're on the road against 554 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Memphis on a Friday night, which I think will be 555 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: a tester they've also after bye that's right, They've also 556 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: got UTSA, your UTSA Roadrunners, Dan a new team, another 557 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: new team in the American that had a lot of 558 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: success last year and the year prior. That game closes 559 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: out the season in Week thirteen. But again the win 560 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: total is nine and a half, and I think that's 561 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: for good reason. Is because the slate does not seem 562 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: super daunting and the roster looks. 563 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: Like it's in a really good spot. I think it's 564 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: a great schedule. Look, South Alabama nearly beat UCLA on 565 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: the road last year. The Jags traveled to Tulane right 566 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: New Orleans to start the season. Otherwise, look all of 567 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: these teams by and large. I think Memphis is pretty good, 568 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: and that's on the road, but it's after a bye week. 569 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: But North Texas new coach, Tulsa new coach, Fau, new 570 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: coach uts getting UTSA at home is great and so 571 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of this schedule. If the defense 572 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: can show what they showed last season, and we saw 573 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 2: how Tulane performed early on they beating Kansas State correct 574 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: the first few weeks of the season last year. So 575 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: this is a team ready to play nearly lost to USC, 576 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: though Ty you should you should point that out. USC 577 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: was right there against the Green Wave schedule rules. Rice 578 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: made a ballgame for the first time in a while 579 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: last year, and the game's at RICE, and it's you know, 580 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: at ECU the week after, but ECU starting over at quarterback. 581 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: There's a lot to like situationally about where Tulane is 582 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: in terms of getting back to that nine to ten 583 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: win level. 584 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks to me like they are on 585 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: a collision course with UTSA. Sure in the American I 586 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: think Twu Lane Swort has an inside track to get 587 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: back to that game. UTSA was eleven and three last 588 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: year in Conference USA. They move over this year to 589 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: the American. They're over under his seven and a half now. Well, 590 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: a couple things worth noting about this schedule. Your boy 591 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Big Frankie Harris is back, No, but Zakari Franklin is not. 592 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Zakari Franklin just announced that he is transferring over to 593 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Old Miss the receiver on the schedule on the schedule. Also, 594 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Will Stein is the new offensive coordinator at your Oregon Ducks. 595 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: And Tulane lost a co defensive coordinator Oregon as well. Yeah, 596 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: that's right. 597 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Oregon tie in here with 598 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: this schedule preview. Jeff Trailer has done a good job 599 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: at UTSA. I do think that this will be a 600 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: bit of a step up for the program for him 601 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: as a coach. I think that's reflected in the Vegas line, 602 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: which is seven and a half. Is a tough road slate. 603 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: If you ask me, at Houston, at Tennessee, at Tulane 604 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: to close out the year, not in that order, but 605 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: scattered throughout the season, it's those three on the road. 606 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I do think there's a good chance that they will 607 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: be playing for an American title their first year in 608 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: the conference, presumably against Tulane. Yeah, but this is a 609 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: schedule defined by the first month and by the very end, 610 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: because early on they're on the road at Houston, Texas State. 611 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: I think could be kind of plucky they get army, 612 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: and then they close out the month of September against 613 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee on the road. That's a tough schedule. And then 614 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: obviously closing things out on the road at Tulane. That's 615 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: going to have a lot to say with who moves 616 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: on and who doesn't. I am curious about that Tennessee 617 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: game in week four. Yeah, Utsa's got a little bit 618 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: of a of a longer week to prepare because they 619 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: play Army Friday in week three, so an extra day 620 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: or so. 621 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: But don't you always talk about the post Navy week 622 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. 623 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Body blow thing to consider? There is a bodyblow thing 624 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: to consider. But Tennessee is also coming back home to 625 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: play that game after the Florida rivalry. There's a lot 626 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: new in Knoxville. I'm not particularly worried, but I could 627 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: see us getting to week four and saying, what's the 628 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: point spread? I love this early June hedge because I 629 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: was about to say the exact same things. 630 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: That. Look, we're not saying Tennessee is gonna lose to UTSA, 631 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: But but we can we can roll this clip if 632 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: they do beat Tennis. 633 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: We can carefully edit this clip to make us appear 634 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: smarter than we are. 635 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what AI is for. I believe I know 636 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: nothing about AI. UTSA schedules good, but I do worry 637 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: a little bit because Conference USA has been terrible, and 638 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: so now they're the schedule becomes a little bit more 639 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: difficult just by having you know, UA be on there. 640 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: Trent Dilferd's UAB. Mind you, Tulane on the road at 641 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: Houston at Tennessee. I mean that has nothing to do 642 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: with the American other than Tulane. I think it's good. 643 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna be more difficult to I think, get to 644 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: the number they've been at the last couple of years. 645 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: But all things considered, Army wasn't great last year Texas State. 646 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: You remember who they hired, G J. Kinney, god rolled 647 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: that he's coaching college football now. Temple was atrocious last year. 648 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: FAU starting over, but that's on the road in Boco. 649 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: Tom Herman and mentioned North Texas, Rice US like, there's 650 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: not There's a lot of starting over that's going on 651 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: in a lot of these schedules, especially in the Americans. 652 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: So I'm not especially worried there might be an adjustment period, 653 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: But you know, who do you see it coming against? 654 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Getting Army at home is great, Getting you know, Temple 655 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: on the road is great. FAU might be tricky after 656 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: UAB and before you SeeU but no, this I'm not 657 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: terribly worried about the will Stein thing. I think he's 658 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: a good offensive coordinator, but Jeff Trailor has been very 659 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: much internal promotion in terms of hiring new coaches. 660 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Very good CEO coach, he's really good, His staff really well. 661 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wish they were a little bit better against 662 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: the pass going into that Tennessee game. But otherwise great. 663 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: Okay, let's move over to MAC. Let's talk about Ohio 664 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: ten and four. Last year they lost the conference but 665 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: won the bowl game. They're over under his seven wins. Honestly, 666 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: the biggest revelation for me is learning that there is 667 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: still a Rourke playing football. Of course, the Canadian dynasty, 668 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke is still playing. He had a good year 669 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: last year. Got hurt, Yeah, but it got hurt. Got 670 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: hurt mid November against ball State, but over thirty two 671 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing twenty five touchdowns, only four interceptions. I 672 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: did not realize he had such a good stat line. 673 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: He is probably the best quarterback in the MAC. This 674 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: is probably the best offense in the MAC. I think 675 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the offense is going to be loaded again, and there 676 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: are not a whole lot of teams in the MAC 677 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: that frighten me, so simply by virtue of that, I 678 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this slate. Six true road games. 679 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: They're on the road in week zero at San Diego State, 680 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: which will be you know, an early test, probably more 681 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: so for San Diego State than for Ohio if I'm host, 682 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: because San Diego State had a lot of issues last year. 683 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: But Ohio also on the road at FAU, at Bowling Green, 684 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: at Northern Illinois, at Buffalo on a Tuesday, and they 685 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: close out the year at Akron on a Friday. This 686 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: sets up pretty well to me. They've got Kent State 687 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: snack dab in the middle. I think Kent State is 688 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: projected as the worst Power five team or the worst 689 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: they lost their team, the worst FBS team, excuse me, 690 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: in ball of college football. So this sets up pretty 691 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: well for I think, another pretty good run by the 692 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: Rourke dynasty by Frank Solich and the Ohio Bobcatz. 693 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just a lot of MAC teams on 694 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: this MAC schedule, and you know how I feel about 695 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: the MAC, Like very few teams are good at both 696 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: offense and defense or decent or average on both sides 697 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: of the ball. Like you'll see a team that moves 698 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: the ball super well and they're like the one hundred 699 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: and fourteenth best defense in the nation. When it comes 700 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: like points per drive or whatever your preferred metric is. 701 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: And so again, if Ohio is simply good, and now 702 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: that they're not fully starting over at head coach right 703 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: before the season like they were last year, schedule sets 704 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: up nicely. The probably lose to Iowa State and San 705 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: Diego State just because I just don't think they have 706 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: the bodies, but otherwise, it's a lot of flawed teams 707 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: getting the buye before Buffalo, who was one of the 708 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: more decent teams on both sides of the ball last year, 709 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: getting the bye week before Buffalo. Akron was kind of 710 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: atrocious most of the year last year. Maybe Joe Morehead 711 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: will have the Zips a little bit better this year, 712 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: but no, it's a lot of deeply flawed teams with 713 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: at least that buye before Buffalo being at a pretty 714 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 2: opportune moment. 715 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: The bye before Buffalo also applies to Toledo. Yes, who's good, 716 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: and Ohio doesn't get Toledo that's right until they presumably 717 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: play in the MAC Championship Game, which I think will happen. Again, 718 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: we're pretty early on talking about this stuff. Toledo's got 719 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: an over under of eight and a half. I think 720 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: it's easy to see why I feel get the schedule, 721 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: same deal, right. There are a lot of MAC teams 722 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: on this MAC schedule. There's also a lot of optimism 723 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: around Toledo, if only because of the Kwan Finn, the 724 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: quarterback who's awesome and is probably second best behind Curtis 725 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: Rourke in the MAC in terms of who's the best quarterback. 726 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: I suppose you can make a case that he's the best. 727 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: He's an exciting player to watch. I remember reading something, Gosh, 728 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: it was earlier this year, I want to say, like 729 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: February March timeframe from our friend Bill Connolly, and I 730 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: think Bill's been high on Toledo for as long as 731 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: I've known He's always it feels to me like he's 732 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: always high on Toledo. And he said as much in 733 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: the article. I'm probably paraphrasing here because I don't remember 734 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: it all that well, but his point was just that 735 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: this is a team this year that seems like it's 736 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: prime to take a jump. They've got the schedule to 737 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: do that. The question is will they It always seems 738 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: like they fall short for one reason or another. And 739 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: I happen to agree. They do have a tough stretch, YEP, 740 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: with three straight road games in October. They've got two 741 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: straight road games to close out the year. But I'm 742 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: not looking at this and I'm and feeling like intimidated 743 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: by any of these opponents. It seems like if they 744 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: are actually a good team with players, they should be 745 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: able to skate through this and hit the over. 746 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 2: Agree, I'm I'm right there with you. And Toledo, it's 747 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: that Miami Ohio game, I guess, the third straight road game. 748 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: Miami had a pretty decent defense last year, but the 749 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: offense was pretty horrendous, so not terrified of much on 750 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: this Toledo schedule. At Illinois will probably be a loss, 751 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: though I don't know Week one weirdness, who knows, never know. 752 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: But otherwise all of the kind of losable games are 753 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: at home, so that's kind of nice for me. Shavon 754 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 2: Cordero still at San Jose State, I mean he was 755 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: Hawaii before San Jose State, but still a college quarterback. 756 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: But otherwise, yeahs Western Michigan's offense fell off a cliff 757 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: and IU defense fell off a cliff like UMass has 758 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: been not good. And it's great. Buffalo's at home, Eastern 759 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: Michigan home. Great, love it. 760 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Mountain West. Talk about Boise. You 761 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: look at the schedule. 762 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: What a run, man, What a September. 763 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: Here is the way that this thing starts off for Boise. 764 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: They're on the road at Washington and they come back 765 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: home to play UCF. They also go to San Diego State, 766 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: and I believe close out September on the road at Memphis, 767 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: which is a pretty tough September if you ask me. 768 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: Beyond that, they also got to go too Fort Collins 769 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: to play against Colorado State, They go to Fresno in 770 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: mid October, they go to Utah State second to last 771 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: week of the season. To my eye, they've got three 772 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: pairs of games that are going to define their season. 773 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: The early tandem that we just outlined at Washington home 774 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: against UCF Weeks one and two, that'll be tough. Then 775 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: Week four and week five at San Diego State on 776 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: a Friday at Memphis Week five on Saturday, presumably, I 777 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: think Memphis will be tough test for them. And then 778 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: to close out the year will towards the end of 779 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: the year, I should say, after the bye Week nine 780 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: to ten home against Wyom. Wyoming brings a lot back 781 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: and I think Wyoming could be pretty good, and then 782 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: the following week on the road at Fresno. Fresno will 783 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: talk about next They've got some of their own issues 784 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: to contend with. If Boise's able to play defense again 785 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: at a top thirty level, that definitely equips them better 786 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: to hit the over seven and a half that Vegas 787 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: assigned them. But I don't know, this is a tough slate. 788 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, don't have the full list of who's 789 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: returning for Boise and returning for everybody on this schedule. 790 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: But in terms of that opener against Washington, it's a 791 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 2: little scary for the Huskies. It's a little scary. Boise 792 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: was I think the number two team in the country 793 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: in terms of forcing three and outs. They were one 794 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: of the most efficient pass defenses in the nation, and 795 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: that was in dealing with an offense that was kind 796 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 2: of awful the first month of the season until they 797 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: made the move to Taylor Green. So if Boise's defense 798 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: is anywhere near as good against the past, near as 799 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: good as getting off near as good as they were 800 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: about getting off the field, near as good as they 801 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: were about you know, blitzing and confusing teams on third 802 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: and long, I don't feel good about you know, Washington 803 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: at least running away with this game, UCF winning that game, 804 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: and after that the home road splits are I know 805 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: they're just kind of average, but getting air Force at 806 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: home is pretty clutch to me. We'll see what I think. 807 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: It's a logan fighte Fresno team and we're going to 808 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: talk about promising, We're going to talk about next that's tough. 809 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: But if Boise has a legit defense, they'll beat San 810 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 2: Diego State. Memphis will be tough on the road in 811 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: second straight road game. They'll beat San Jose State, they'll 812 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 2: beat Colorado State, they'll beat Wyoming. They have a good 813 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: shot against Fresno, New Mexico. They'll beat Utah State probably, 814 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: but it's in a tough look ahead spot with air Force. 815 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: But I still think we're talking about a nine to 816 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: three kind of Boise season. 817 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: You feel better about them than I do. 818 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: Again, it's all contingent on Tailing Green and defense. But 819 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: that's my rubricquarterback and defense, and Taylor Green beat up 820 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: on the teams he should beat up on. Had some 821 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: struggling moments against the tougher opponents, and now has a 822 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 2: full offseason as the guy, So I don't hate the schedule. 823 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: Well, speaking to that rubric quarterback and defense, Fresno's defense 824 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: returns a lot from a defense that was pretty good 825 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: a year ago, and I think that will serve them well. 826 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: On the quarterback side that we're talking about the law 827 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: firm of Mikey keenan Logan Fife, Right, one of those two, 828 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: maybe both are going to lead the offense for the 829 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: Bulldogs this year. Because Jake Hayner went pro and did 830 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: that wonderful photo shoot. I don't know if he saw 831 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: it with the Saints. 832 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: But that was the Saints. Yeah, of course I saw it. 833 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Wonderful photo shoot, flour deductive, Yeah, just really all the fields, yeah, 834 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: all the fields. I I liked Mikey Keen at UCF. 835 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: I liked it. But here's the qualifier. Okay, the qualifier 836 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: is the guy in front of him got hurt and 837 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: they had to put him in. And I thought it 838 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: was more a comp to the coaching staff with how 839 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: they kind of retooled the offense and fit the scheme 840 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: or fit the talents of Mikey Keen in order to 841 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: make that thing work. 842 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: You're talking two years ago. 843 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: Last two years is beat out by two years ago. Yeah, 844 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: that was what I felt really good about. Mikey Kean Okay, Okay, 845 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm not so excited about Mikey being the man. Mikey 846 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: the Man is like I I don't know how I 847 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: feel about that, and I'm not saying I feel any 848 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: better about Logan Fife. So that part, to me is 849 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: a little bit worrying. The quarterback side of this for Fresno, 850 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: especially after all these years of Jay Hayner playing at 851 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: a pretty high level, obviously getting drafted into the NFL. 852 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: The schedule, I don't know how to feel about the schedule, 853 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: Like it's not overpowering to me. There are no guaranteed 854 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: losses in my opinion. I could see ten and two, 855 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: I could see six and six, I could see five 856 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: and seven. I don't really know what to make of this. 857 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Their big non conference road games are at Purdue and 858 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: at Arizona State, both of which have new coaches. Is 859 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: both of which are early so I think that that 860 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: bodes well for them. 861 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 2: They should be, both of which are situationally nice. I 862 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: think it's very new before they have Virginia Tech and 863 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: Syracuse and then it's ASU the week before sc correct yep, yep, 864 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: all right. 865 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean there are wins on here, they're guaranteed wins 866 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: on here, Eastern Washington, Kent State, Nevada, those should all 867 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: be wins. New Mexico should be Like, there's enough on 868 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: here that I think hitting there over under of eight 869 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: and a half is very much in play. But with 870 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: that uncertainty at quarterback, and yeah, we'll talk much more 871 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: about this when we do Mountain West previews, but at 872 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: least that recording recording time here in early June. I'm 873 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: just sort of mixed on this. 874 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: It was a good defense last year that gave up 875 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: big plays, but otherwise was good, great secondary. I just 876 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't know they If we're gonna trust Jeff Tedford 877 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: with quarterback development, which I think is pretty fair to do, 878 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 2: the track record is pretty decent, then we say Fresno 879 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 2: should be good and they should brush up against double 880 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: digit wins. If they can avoid what was a pretty 881 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: atrocious start last year, and some of that had to 882 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: do with injury, I think they'll be good. It's good schedule, 883 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: especially with look at look how much new is on 884 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: this schedule as well. 885 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, air Force, do you look at Air Force. 886 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: Of course, I did. I love air Force. You know 887 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: about me in air Force, it's the United States Air Force. 888 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: Air Force plays at home once in the last six 889 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. 890 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 2: That's a it's tricky, but it's against some bad team 891 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: at Navy at Colorado State. 892 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: There's a neutral sider that they're playing at Mile High 893 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: against Army, which would be a cool venue actually for 894 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, on the road at Hawaii Week eleven, 895 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: back home for their only home game of that stretch 896 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: against UNLV. They close out the year at Boise on 897 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: a Friday night. 898 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: I just think they're excellent. I don't know. I don't 899 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: have the roster at the changes in front of them. 900 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: There's a lot new, there's a lot new, But if 901 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: you're running it and playing defense, which is all they've 902 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: been doing these past few years, they'll win ten games. 903 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, tenth rated SPPLUS defense last year, and about seventy 904 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: percent of that production is back. So if they're powered 905 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: by anything, it's going to be the defense. My guy 906 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: has Zeke Daniels has gone, which is kind of a bummer. 907 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: But they beat up on who do they beat in 908 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 2: the Super Cold Bowl game? Baylor? Right, and like the 909 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 2: fifteen degree Texas Bowl, whatever it was. There's a lot 910 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: of winnable games on the schedule. There are is, there 911 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: are maybe starting over Armies still will probably struggle. I 912 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: Hawaii is starting over still, UNLV starting over. Colorado State 913 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: was awful last year for long stretches. Wyoming is in 914 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 2: UH is at air Force all like I just I 915 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: don't know. San Diego State's offense has been terrible. I 916 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: think they scored three points against air Force last year. 917 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: They start with what Bobby Moe and Sammy Houston. By 918 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 2: the way, by the way, plug alert tie. Yeah, Sam 919 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 2: Houston was a clue on extra Nuggets, Nuggets, Extra Nuggets 920 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: dot show. 921 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: There it is. 922 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: Sam Houston, a founding father of the State of Texas, 923 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: the Republic of Texas, nicknamed Big Drunk a group of 924 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: Native Americans after he had a falling out in politics 925 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 2: in the State of Tennessee. But uh, fascinating dude. Sam 926 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: Houston learned a lot and I think he's worth investigating further. Anyway, 927 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 2: great schedule, Bobby mo Sammy. 928 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: Houston, San Diego State. Let's close out our Mountain West 929 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: previews with San Diego State. They went seven and six 930 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: a year ago. Lost a bowl game in Middle Tennessee. 931 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: The over under is seven. The first six weeks of 932 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: this schedule are brutal. They are just brutal. Ohio and 933 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: week zero and I think Ohio is gonna be pretty good. 934 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: I said it before. That's a hell, but it's mack good. 935 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, Mack good. Fine, but that game is of interest. 936 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: Idaho State week one, whatever, Ucla at home. Week two, 937 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: that'll be tough. On the road at Oregon State week three, 938 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: that'll be tough. Back home against Boise in week four 939 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: on a Friday week from the road after Corvallis. And 940 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 1: then on top of all of that, Week five at 941 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: Altitude on the road against air Force. YEA, some big 942 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: time body blow potential for all the games that folow 943 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: now they're on by after air Force, and the schedule 944 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: does I think ease up considerably from week six on. 945 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: But you got to get through that stretch first, and 946 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a real challenge, especially 947 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: for a team that struggled as they did on offense. 948 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,479 Speaker 2: I don't have any faith in the San Diego State 949 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: team this year. Again, don't know the roster, don't know 950 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: the situations in and out, but doesn't seem great. It 951 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: doesn't seem great for San Diego State that they are 952 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: just not bringing an offense likely to this schedule and 953 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: the way it starts out. Look, there's a lot to 954 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 2: like about the exercise on the back half of this schedule. 955 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: There is that people are going to be burning calories 956 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: for San Diego State in ways that we could not 957 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 2: have anticipated in early June. But otherwise it's gonna be 958 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 2: a San Diego State team that goes six and six, 959 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 2: five and seven or something if they don't have their 960 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: act together early on. And then we're talking about the 961 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 2: PAC twelve saying you want to be my latex salesman, 962 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: right that, like you want to be this is this 963 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: is who you want Pack twelve. This Brady Hoak five? 964 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: Is that okay? And so I think that's that's on 965 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: the table. 966 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: Do you still have the Brady Hoak voice at your disposal? 967 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 2: No? I blew that that that vocal cord out years ago. 968 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: It's just a something like that. 969 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: Close things out with the sun belt, fun belt. 970 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 971 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: Got four teams here, got app State, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, 972 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: coun Tuck Little jmu Sure and the Troy Trojans. Troy Trojans, 973 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: by the way one the conference. Last year, they beat Coastal, 974 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: they won the bowl game over UTSA, the aforementioned Roadrunners 975 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: went twelve to two. So it was a really nice 976 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: campaign for the Troy Trojans. This season, They've got Kansas 977 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: State on schedule. I think that'll be an interesting early 978 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: test for case State. The back to back tandem of 979 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 1: k State and JMU, I think will be difficult for Troy. 980 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't think JMU will be quite what it was 981 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: a year ago. But this is a schedule that's got 982 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: decent buffers I can play yet today it seems like 983 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: it's set up pretty well for a team that really 984 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: found itself last year, and the question is can they continue. Yeah, 985 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about JMU. You want to talk anything further 986 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: about JMU. They they've got an interesting stretch here in 987 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: the beginning. 988 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 2: They played a good amount of defense last year, a 989 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 2: great amount of defense last year, which is good news 990 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: if you're playing Virginia, if that is the Power five 991 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: team you have on the road early on, it's good 992 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: news because they were terrible on offense last year. Otherwise, 993 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: the back half of the schedule is just really difficult, 994 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: right that they are going to have to prove it 995 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: with depth and adjustments whatever, just having the Marshall defense. 996 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 2: I think that's what Thursday night game Georgia State decent. 997 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 2: App State should again be decent, although the Chase Brice 998 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 2: has gone after nine years in college fotball and it's 999 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: at Coastal to finish things out. But I don't know. 1000 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in coaching and aggression on defense 1001 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: and so Jami, you should be in a good spot 1002 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 2: this year. 1003 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: Buck Nol Week one, the Nelli's. 1004 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now the opening Stanza is all together. I mean, 1005 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: look Detroit defense on the road. Not a fan of 1006 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 2: getting that, and that's what three road games in a 1007 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: row early on. 1008 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: UVA Troy State. 1009 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to take a step back this year, 1010 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 2: but still I think they're going to be a bowl team, 1011 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: just maybe only a number, but. 1012 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, app State and Coastal to close out the year 1013 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: won't be great. App State, by the way, six and 1014 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: six a year ago, interesting factoid here that mainly interest 1015 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: me won six games but didn't qualify for a Bowl 1016 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: because two of those wins were against Robert Morris and 1017 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: the City two fcs teams. They're over under six and 1018 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: a half. This year, they play another matchup against UNC, 1019 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: this one in week two. You remember the game from 1020 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: Week one a year ago, sixty three sixty one. They 1021 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: lost that game all the points. There's also an interesting 1022 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: matchup after a bye in week seven at home on 1023 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: a Tuesday night against Coastal Carolina, which I think will 1024 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: obviously be circled in advance. 1025 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 2: It's the annual Explosion. 1026 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the annual Explosion. There's a game Week twelve at JMU. 1027 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily know what to expect from JMU. Last 1028 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,439 Speaker 1: year was really only their first year in FBS. There's 1029 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: also a game in here week four at Wyoming. Yeah, 1030 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: I think Wyoming would be decent. I think Wyoming will 1031 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: be decent, and so that will be a challenge. I 1032 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: think Vegas got the six and a half over under 1033 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: correct because when I went through, as I said on 1034 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: the last episode, where I'm looking at schedules and trying 1035 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: to piece together, right, how many wins am I seeing? 1036 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: I came to about five or six. 1037 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: There's a lot of losable games on this there really are, 1038 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 2: right there are. Yeah, the UNC, Wyoming I mean old dominions, 1039 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: the offense. Excuse me, last year was really really bad. 1040 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 2: But again, Panthers and Jmule consecutive weeks after playing what 1041 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 2: was the clear best defense in the in the Sunbelt 1042 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: last year with Marshall. I don't know, man, there's a 1043 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: lot of tough on here, especially the back half. 1044 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: Close things out with Coastal Carolina. Yes, and let's talk 1045 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: about Week one on the road at UCLA. 1046 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna lose that game. I don't know. We 1047 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 2: want me to tell you. 1048 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: I was trying to set up a dramatic interest. 1049 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 2: They don't have a defense to win that game. 1050 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: No, okay, no, the month of September. Otherwise it's at 1051 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: UCLA Week one. I think they probably lose that game. 1052 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: But they've got Jacksonville State, Dukane, and Georgia State all 1053 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: at home before they close out September with Georgia Southern 1054 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: on the road after a bye in week six at 1055 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: app State at Arkansas State home against Marshall on the 1056 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: road at ODU, Texas State at Army close out the 1057 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: year at JMU. I think it's a reasonably difficult back 1058 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: half of the schedule for cost. 1059 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 2: Arkansas State is terrible. ODU might be terrible Texas State's 1060 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: and GJ. Kenny all due respect starting over. I don't know. 1061 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I just don't know how much 1062 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: often you can win with just offense. By the way, 1063 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: Jacksonville State new to Conference USA. I believe rich Rod's 1064 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: Jacksonville State, as far as I can tell. They'd like 1065 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 2: to start a quarterback who does not yet know if 1066 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 2: he is eligible to play this season in Zion Web. 1067 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 2: And he's appealing because he got hurt in twenty twenty 1068 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: one and was very good for them last year. And 1069 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 2: so rich Rod doesn't know if he has a starting 1070 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 2: quarterback who is allowed to play it. But he played 1071 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 2: in the spring, got like provisional eligibility. But we'll see. 1072 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: That's tough. We remember Jacksonville State from a couple of 1073 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 2: years ago of Florida State. This is not a nothing program. 1074 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 2: They won a ton of games last year and they're 1075 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 2: making the move up now. We'll see. And that's after 1076 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 2: the UCLA game. 1077 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, rush for thirteen touchdowns twenty twenty two, had close 1078 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: to six yards to carry, So definitely a dual threat 1079 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: guy who can see a new coach coast and a 1080 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: new coach and a new coach. Yeah, a lot going on, 1081 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: all right. We will cover more G five teams as 1082 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: we go through this offseason, certainly as we get into 1083 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: previews and start talking about the real brass tacks of 1084 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: the coming season. Keep it tuned right here. Soliverble Go 1085 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: to Soliverble dot comments or website, Hit subscribe, hit follow, 1086 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: tell your friends, follow on on social media if you 1087 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: want to support what we do. Good over ballers dot com. 1088 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 2: Doa totally true story, ty. I don't remember the exact scenario, 1089 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 2: but I had a phone call with somebody for work. 1090 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 2: I think it was when I was at SI. I 1091 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 2: can't be positive, but I think it was way back 1092 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 2: when two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, and 1093 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 2: this person said, all right, let's slip down to brass 1094 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,760 Speaker 2: tacks now. And in my head, having never heard that phrase, 1095 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: is like a twenty three year old somewhere in there, 1096 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: I thought there was a brass tax tax that I 1097 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 2: was like, man, I really don't know grown up business, 1098 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 2: because this whole brass tax has completely eluded me. And 1099 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 2: then it's one of those things where you just you 1100 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 2: don't know verbidge, you don't know slang, and you're really 1101 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 2: dumb until at some point in life, as a grown up, 1102 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 2: you become slightly less dumb. And I hope that's where 1103 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 2: I am right now, because for a solid week I 1104 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 2: kept googling how much do I owe in brass taxes? 1105 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: But then you watch Better Call Saul and you sort 1106 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: of blew the lid on it. 1107 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, all right. 1108 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: That does it for our schedule previews again. 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