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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition All the Smoke. Jack was good, cooler,

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Speaker 1: my brother. I'm hurting because you know, I'm back on

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Speaker 1: that court. A little bit kind of wounded, but you know,

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Speaker 1: ready to get back. Get back to work, man, get

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Speaker 1: this thing going. Got a dope show. What's your game

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Speaker 1: looking like these days? Still him? H I m capital

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Speaker 1: Still him? Yeah, still him? But but how do you?

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Speaker 1: How does him? How does him feel after him's done him?

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Speaker 1: Don't feel like I don't feel nothing but broken bones

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Speaker 1: and bruises. I can't lie to you, Matt. When I

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Speaker 1: get back, the first thing I have to do is

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Speaker 1: sitting the tub, and I gotta lay down because I'll

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Speaker 1: be so hurting that I can't even eat. No way, Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: thankfully man. Our next guest is one of the young Guns,

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Speaker 1: young bright stars in the NBA over there in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: part of the Grizzly Family Man. Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson Jr. How are you today? I'm good, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here. This is the legendary show. Um,

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Speaker 1: It's always on my TV the Homies and what I mean,

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Speaker 1: we I'm happy for y'all, how far y'all care, just

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Speaker 1: because I mean, this is it now? Like you you

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Speaker 1: this is it now? Now y'all get to watch your

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Speaker 1: episode though. That's just gonna be dope, man, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Jack born in Plainfield, New Jersey. You moved

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Speaker 1: around a few times. Talk about your upbringing. Yeah, born

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Speaker 1: in Plainfield. Was there for hot second. Um, I mainly lived.

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Speaker 1: I lived in Virginia, Maryland. Really came up in Indiana though,

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Speaker 1: Like basketball wise, that's really what made me, you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I bet y'all know good coaching out there, like good

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Speaker 1: high schools, like you know, people moving the ball. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's just kind of where I really found myself basketball wise,

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Speaker 1: before I was really playing. I'll play with some dudes

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Speaker 1: who go to Villanova now, Brandon Slater justin Moore. We're

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Speaker 1: really good coming up. But uh, I mean really finding

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Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. I found that in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: So that was really where I found it. And I transferred.

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Speaker 1: I was going to a school Indiana called part Tutor,

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Speaker 1: Tiger Campbell's I mean playing now in college so with

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Speaker 1: the Bruins. Yeah, how was how was Jordan's pool and

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Speaker 1: prep school? Because he's a killer now starting to find

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Speaker 1: this groove. Yeah, that's my roommate. Okay, that's my dog.

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Speaker 1: Like uh, I mean at first, I remember we used

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Speaker 1: and his boarding school. So we went right back to

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Speaker 1: the dorm and we would just sit there some times

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Speaker 1: early on and we wouldn't saying nothing to each other.

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Speaker 1: I just we'll just be thinking about how we're gonna

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Speaker 1: kill each other next time whatever. We talked the whole time,

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Speaker 1: and like we love bringing that out of each other.

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Speaker 1: Um because because at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 1: he worked so hard, I just know how he was

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Speaker 1: always going to be this special. I always knew that,

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Speaker 1: and I mean he instilled that in me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Like we would always go to the gym. He always

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Speaker 1: that's one thing about him though. I never liked that

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Speaker 1: what time he went like that was that was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like what are we doing? Yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: love it, but like we could I could totally just

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Speaker 1: Totally done this later. But I mean he was trying

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Speaker 1: talk about Indiana, I was, I played there around the

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Speaker 1: Peyton man in time and just to just to go

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Speaker 1: touch on what you said, Indiana had paid Manning at

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Speaker 1: still was behind the paces and in the Indiana who

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Speaker 1: was just like basketball is everything in Indiana. Man. So

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Speaker 1: I so I know what you're talking about. But growing up,

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Speaker 1: Like if I didn't want to do it, he would

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Speaker 1: didn't even find the Indiana. I had it. I just

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Speaker 1: So I just be in Indiana and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got the Hoosiers down there, So the Whosiers all

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Speaker 1: the fans go to the Pacer games. So that's why

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Speaker 1: it gets loud, like they're still loud. I was going

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Speaker 1: to Pacer games watching Danny Granger. I was watching PG

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Speaker 1: I mean Indiana bred me. Yeah, you're coming from two

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Speaker 1: born in your your dad won the ring. Talk, do

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Speaker 1: the NBA champion. Yeah, well no, I don't remember nothing.

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Speaker 1: So then the next couple of years after that, like

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Speaker 1: but I was. I was in Santon. I remember, Shoot,

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Speaker 1: So Santoni, I mean both your parents are in the game.

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Speaker 1: I think after a point, I was just like, you know, clearly,

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Speaker 1: Uh talk about Um, how do you felt about being

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Speaker 1: like everybody knows everybody very well. So Draymond calls me,

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00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know Draymond like that, like we're not

423
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: that cool yet, Like we're cool, but we're not that

424
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 1: cool yet. So he's calling me, not even introduced himself.

425
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: He's just calling me and saying, what the fund is

426
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm like, who is this? He's like, no,

427
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: this is and I'm as drama, all right, what's up? Bro?

428
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: Like I know how you'd be. He's like, why are

429
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: you in the stay? There's no reason? How how you

430
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: want to go? How how you want to go? One?

431
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: You want to go? One? Huh? How high? Like what's

432
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: the point all this? Da? Da da dada. I'm like,

433
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: all right, bro, like dang, it ain't like I didn't

434
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: even thought about it all yet, like man, I could

435
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: have let like who knows? And then I sat down

436
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: and really looked at it. And then my dad finally

437
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: decided to talk to me about it because he was

438
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: waiting to give me space, and he was like, yeah,

439
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: it's probably shaping up, you know what. You know what's

440
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: funny about that is as I was about to ask

441
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: you about Miles Bridges next, but I particularly remember since

442
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: you brought Draymond up. Draymond was having conversations with Miles

443
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: and his parents while we were on getting ready. We

444
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: were I think we're in the Western Conference finals. We

445
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: might have been in the finals. I'll sitting right next

446
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: to him, and he was really going back and forth

447
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: with with with Miles and his parents about staying not staying.

448
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I think Miles wanted to come out, and I'm not

449
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: sure if his parents didn't want him or something like that.

450
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: But it was funny you said that because he was

451
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: on the phone with Miles too. And obviously you guys

452
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: UH playing together. Thoughts on his uh Man arguably could

453
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: be most improved player UH this year in the NBA.

454
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: What kind of relationship do you guys have and and

455
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: and are you surprised that the leap he's made. I

456
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not surprised. Um. Kind of like the

457
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: same thing with Jay Pool. He just worked so hard.

458
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: There's like levels, like you work too hard. I know

459
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: eventually something's gonna sink for you. Eventually you're gonna work

460
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: double as hard as someone else like you're going against

461
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: and it just adds up enough. So I mean, I

462
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: just see how he works. I know his mentality. He

463
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: don't you don't give a damn about anybody in front

464
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: of him. You he going at you and he's gonna

465
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: laugh about it. Like it's just this is joy, Like

466
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: it's pure joy, is coming from real place. So I know,

467
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: like if you have that, I have more confidence in

468
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: like anything you're going to do in the future. So

469
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Plus he's my roommate too, that's my dog. Like,

470
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: were working out together. We worked out in the summer

471
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: right before the draft. Uh what we were still in

472
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Michigan before we left and I went to l A,

473
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: so I knew what he was on and um, I

474
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: mean just to see the leaps. Yeah, we worked out

475
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: with Chris Johnson this summer, so and shout out, yeah,

476
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: Chris is Yeah, he works he works out by twins.

477
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: I was I was never shocked at how when he

478
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: was gonna go. I think I was shocked on how

479
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: he adapted so well to probably shooting, just because that

480
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: was probably the only thing that like people say, like

481
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, he's super athletic and drive

482
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: all that. Now, I mean, you really got to put

483
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: a hand up like he could shoot. So I mean

484
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm just happy for him, you know, whatever whatever they do.

485
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Charlotte's on the five game winning Street right

486
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: now as we speak right now, and I know him

487
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: and Mellow I have like a crazy connection right now.

488
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: They're really doing it, so they got it. Mm hmm.

489
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: You you clasp of the draft Ineen, you get drafted

490
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: number four by the Grizzlies. Talk about that experience. Yeah,

491
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: draft process. Uh only did three workouts, ironically, none of

492
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: them for the Grizzlies. It was Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix

493
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: because I was going for the number one pick and

494
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to a funny thing. I actually asked

495
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: Phoenix to be like a group workout for the number

496
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: one pick, which honestly was pretty weird. No one does that,

497
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: Like everyone said, everyone said no, but no one wanted

498
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: to do it. But it was okay, Like I still

499
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: worked out for them, um and yeah, Like at the time,

500
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: we had a whole different front office, a whole different team,

501
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: and the Grizzlies. Uh, you know, the agency process angle

502
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: you in different ways, and I didn't really know much

503
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: about any of the places. I was just happy to

504
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: go anywhere. When I knew I was going one through

505
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: five or one through ten, I was like, you know,

506
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just make sure I'm ready for whatever comes

507
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: and I pretty much knew draft morning where I was going.

508
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: You never know, but like you knew to go, aid

509
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: My agent told me Austin Brown to go, and he

510
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: were at the draft table, and everyone thought I was

511
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: going to Atlanta. So everyone's looking at me for Atlanta

512
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, it's not I'm trying to

513
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: tell people like no, and then they think I'm mad,

514
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Like as soon as it happens, I'm like, no, I knew,

515
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: and they try to put the camera on me for

516
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: my like explosive reaction or whatever. I'm like, no, it's cool.

517
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: And then uh. I went to Memphis and immediately, I

518
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: mean I just felt different, Like as soon as my

519
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: name was called, I just felt different, partly because you

520
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: go right to the media circuit and it's like you're

521
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: getting asked questions like you was on the team for

522
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: your whole life, What do you want to bring to

523
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: the city. How does the city treating you? I'm like, bro,

524
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 1: I ain't get there, but like but like I'm just

525
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: I was immersed. You're immersing in community. Like as soon

526
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: as you get there, everybody is so excited to see you,

527
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: like it's crazy, Like it's like they ain't they don't.

528
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt no to like they just more how

529
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: do they asked? But like they on everybody. It's like

530
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: if you come for the team, they on you, but

531
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: they on your ass too, So it's like it's both

532
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: and it's like real, like you know it's real, you know,

533
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing like it's not a bunch of people

534
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: just going to the game not know what's going on. No,

535
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: they love I mean, because it's really all they got

536
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean. So I was

537
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: obviously a competitor with the Clippers, and we battled them

538
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs for a few years. But then once

539
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: I went there, it was like they love you. They

540
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: embrace you. And I wasn't even the number four pick,

541
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're you're a lottery pick. So

542
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: I can only imagine the love um that they showed

543
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: you when you arrived, because it's it's really a real

544
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: basketball town, like they really care about their Grizzlies. It

545
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of love. I went to a baseball

546
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: game first off through a pitch like no sleep, like

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: coming straight from the draft, like had a had like

548
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of my people at the drive night before,

549
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: really not sleeping at all, Like it was crazy, and uh,

550
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: flew right there and met everybody. We're a VET team,

551
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: though heavy VET team. We're not like we are now.

552
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: Who was still there? Who? Who? Who was there when

553
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: you were draft it. I started with Marshawn Brooks, Shelton

554
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Mack Dylan Brooks was probably the youngest, and Mike Conley, Mark,

555
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: Jamichael Green, Umri Caspy, Garrett Temple was on our team.

556
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Kyle Anderson. Yeah, Uh the age was the like the

557
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: the whatever age was high. So I'm like, um, it's funny. Oh,

558
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Wayne Seldon my brother. It was crazy like I was

559
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: Rooke for real, like it was. It was funny in

560
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: the locker room, Like it's it's funny to see how

561
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the locker room has changed. But I mean I really

562
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: had O G s Like I really g who had

563
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different experiences, knew a lot of people

564
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: in the league, and I would I remember, I would

565
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: say stuff and they'd be like, you have no idea.

566
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I had Chandler, I had Chandler. You had Chandler on here,

567
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: I had Chanl. Yeah. I was gonna ask because I

568
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: think I left the year before I I went. Yeah,

569
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I was there the year before, and then Chandler came

570
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: the year I left. So that's why I's gonna ask.

571
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: I think Chandler was on that team too. I was

572
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: a good root too. They know it too. I was good.

573
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Like what I learned about the rug duties is like

574
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: the only way you get hard rook duties if you

575
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: don't do the easy ones. So I was always like tiles,

576
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: the showers, look like the food for the plane. Like

577
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: everything I was on point with. I never missed ever.

578
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: And they treat you right. That's what they don't like.

579
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you something, give your ms, give you

580
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: our per damn that we would have had you on

581
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: blunt runs, alcohol runs, what else, jack rubbers, rubbers all that,

582
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: but she didn't use those. That's why I said, we

583
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't say they know. But like I literally had two

584
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: am you ready? One? Am you ready? You just gotta

585
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: be ready, Like if you just are considering with it,

586
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: they leave you alone. But I remember Chandler Chandler. Funny

587
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: thing about Chandler. Chandler had me he was like all right,

588
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: he keeping my bag like off the plane, like get

589
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the bag, his bag and bring it home and bring

590
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: it to the gym the next day, and I'm like,

591
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: this is so odd. This is like the just so

592
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: he can get right to his car, don't have to

593
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: wait for the bag. Yeah, I'm like, all right, fine,

594
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I just didn't care, So I did it. I bring

595
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: his bag home. I bring his bag in my crib

596
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dn, this bag is huge, but it's

597
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: so light, and I'm just thinking to myself, like, what's

598
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like being that dude, but what's

599
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: in this bag? Bro? So I'm just like Maro, all right,

600
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm opening your back. I opened the bag because this

601
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: joint don't make sense. And there's just one pair of

602
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: jeans in there. It's just a huge bag and just

603
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: a pair of jeans in there. I'm like, I'm like, dude,

604
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: what I'm just so confused now. I just I just

605
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: bring it to him. I just bring it next day

606
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: and I never say anything about it. I didn't never

607
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: tell him. But I'm just like, bro, and he's like,

608
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: good rook. I'm like, yeah, you know, damn well, there's

609
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: just some jeans in here. This is the most random thing,

610
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Like what is the point of this? Like you got

611
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: this big gas bag for what was your welcome to

612
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: the NBA moment. We all got one. Uh, just that moment,

613
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: just that moment when you're like, damn, I'm really here,

614
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm in the league. I'm here, I'm in the building.

615
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: I feel like mine was the first preseason game because

616
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: we played the Rockets and we were playing Chris Paul

617
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: and James Harden. I played, I mean I played a

618
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of two K, So two K was getting really good.

619
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: Two kids getting really good, Like I know the rituals,

620
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: the intros, and we're going through like warm ups. I'm

621
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: coming off the bench and I see like the little

622
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Chris Paul where he jumps on hits the pad, James

623
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: Harden hits the pad, does like this. I'm like, wow,

624
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: this is like exactly like two I'm like, it's exactly

625
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: like two kids. My first game playing somewhere, Chris Paul

626
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: gets attacking like the first three minutes of the game

627
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: for nobody's the first preseason game of the year. I'm like,

628
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: all right. So then I get out there and they

629
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: really literally run the same play ten times in a

630
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: row and just get me on the switch, and I

631
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: so and take a hundred dribbles back and forth and

632
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: just do a step back and then or they just

633
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: tried to drive by me and like I wasn't getting baked,

634
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: but they hit some and then like I remember one time,

635
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: James having just was staring in my eyes, like staring

636
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: at me and like laughing as he's doing this dribble

637
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: because he knows I'm this is the first time I'm

638
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: out here and I'm about to barbecue man. And he

639
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: stepped back, and I remember I tried to contest. I

640
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of stepped under him and he fell and they're

641
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: like hey, like they were freaking out, like on the

642
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: rockets bench, like he stepped under him. And then Chris

643
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Paul was like hey, man, like, don't even He told

644
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: the bench calmed down because I don't even know. He

645
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: knows I don't know what's going on right now, like

646
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: he knows, I have no idea. I didn't even know

647
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: what they were mad about. I was like, what's up?

648
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Like the dude just hit me with eight moves combos

649
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: and stepped back like I don't know what y'all what

650
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: y'all want? You want me to not contest? Like y'all,

651
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't even but he that was was probably a

652
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: moment um playing against Brian that season was crazy. I

653
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: just remember for it was the first time for everything.

654
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: So like it's anyone that didn't did anyone dunk on

655
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: you that season? You get dunked on him? Bout anybody? Yeah,

656
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: he's a shot, He's a shot blocker. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

657
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: because that's why, No, he'd be going up and contested.

658
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. It's only you know, it's a

659
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: matter of time. You're gonna blocking up, but you're gonna

660
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: get dunked onto. Yeah. Probably it's probably something I can't.

661
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember them. It's hard for me

662
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: to remember him. And I ain't even bullshit because I

663
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: really would say, I really really because I do block

664
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot. So it is gonna happen. But when it happens,

665
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: it's just like I'll just be I'll be forgetting it.

666
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Ain't it can't be. Oh, I mean I don't even

667
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: want to. I mean, belief, Belicia Felicia dunk. Yeah. See

668
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: it's the one you wouldn't expect. It's not the high flowers. Yeah.

669
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: In the Sacramento I banged on him the first half.

670
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: I went and left banged on him. Talking crazy my bench,

671
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking crazy. And then in the fourth quarter she

672
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: comes down the lank and gives me and the whole

673
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: crowd remembers and they're going crazy. And then I got

674
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: subbed out. Right then, I'm like, that's the worst it was,

675
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: and one oh, and you got subbed out. I got

676
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: subbed out for like the nine minutes. I got stubbed

677
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: out so long that they put me in to like

678
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: be on the ball at the end of the game.

679
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Like I got subbed out for a minute that game randomly,

680
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Like I was like, man, like, damn, but I remember.

681
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I think that's why I remember that one. That one

682
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: was weird. March twenty nine, two nineteen. You're shut down

683
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the season. Um, what is that

684
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: like for you? You're in the league now and you're

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: shut down? How was that mentally for you? Understanding that

686
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, damn, this is a part of the game.

687
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: The worst Funny enough, I had I had literally just

688
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: gotten hurt and I was coming back from injury and

689
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I was a game away, so it was the next

690
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: game I was about to play, and I'm like, really,

691
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: like all right, so then we shut down and I

692
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: mean at first, I didn't know what the thing because

693
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be a long time. But

694
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: when I realized, like what what was really going on

695
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: around the world, I was like, man, it kind of

696
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: just made me grateful for everything. Definitely great for everything,

697
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: Grateful for playing the game, playing competitively around people, like like,

698
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: obviously I ain't gonna lie I was. I was going

699
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: to the gym always, like I found a way to

700
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: get to the gym. But even then, like it's different.

701
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: You just different. You're not around like even the people

702
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: at the coaches, like the video dudes, like people training,

703
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: like anything, like the relationship there is, it's just not there,

704
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: and you're just you're just getting better on your game

705
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: waiting for that time to show it again. It's kind

706
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: of like you're in a cocoon or something. But I

707
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: mean it was just more. It was just more like

708
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: you're kind of everybody's on the same playing field for

709
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: some reason. Like it's hard to say, but like everybody's

710
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: in the same boat. You know, everybody's probably thinking around

711
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: the whole world because everybody's just sitting there waiting. Everybody's

712
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: just kind of making do Everybody's just kind of um,

713
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's less about basketball for once, Like it's

714
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: always about basketball, but it's finally less about basketball, and

715
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: that's weird, like it's usually all about that. Yeah, it's life.

716
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: The following season, the end of the year, in December,

717
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: you dropped a career high forty three with nine threes,

718
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: tying the franchise record with Mike Miller. What was that night? Like, Uh,

719
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: who was big? Who was real big? Like, I don't

720
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: know what. I didn't do anything special before the game.

721
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I think it was a regular game. I knew I

722
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: was playing your honest, so I was hyped and people were,

723
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, excited about that matchup of me finally getting

724
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: the taste of that. And I just realized that day,

725
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: I mean for a while, like my shot for him,

726
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: like it would just not have people contest and stuff

727
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: like that, I could get away with a lot. So

728
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: I knew I could shoot and I had a confidence

729
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: to shoot, and they weren't playing up on me at first.

730
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: So my first four, when I hit my first four

731
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: in the quarter, I was kind of like, all right,

732
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I just like, no matter what, I'm gonna take probably

733
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: five or six more just because I deserve it now,

734
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Like I felt comfortable like doing it, so my team,

735
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: my teammates were finding me. I hit one one time.

736
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I remember I played the whole court. I was so gass.

737
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Coach was running a play for me to get it

738
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: at the elbow, and I was so gassed. I kind

739
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: of just like ran to the ball, like at the

740
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: top of the key, just to give me the ball,

741
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: and like cleared everybody out and took like a forty

742
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: footer off the glass. And I was just like, Wow,

743
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I don't even know what's going on. Like,

744
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: I like, I hit seven. I probably had seven in

745
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: a quarter in the third and then ended up hitting

746
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: nine for the game. But the third quarter was the

747
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: third quarter was unreal, Like I didn't know what was

748
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: going on, and I had to lay up in that.

749
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: I had a couple of laps in that quarter where

750
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: they finally closed out on me and I drove off.

751
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I'm gassed, But this is a

752
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: dream right here. This is crazy. Whatever you want, Uh,

753
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: you guys, go to the bubble. What do you remember

754
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: about that? I mean, whether it be playing or just

755
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: in that environment. Uh, what sticks out to you the

756
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: most about that time. I'm an only child, so pretty

757
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: much like growing up again, just being by yourself and

758
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: hooping and coming back like a long tournament. And it

759
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: was like we was a AU team, roommates going to

760
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: each other's room every day, hanging out, playing video games,

761
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: listening to music like all the I just remember everything

762
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: being so open. There's just no one there. You can

763
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, and then you just go and

764
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: play these games. Um, I got hurt there too. What sucked.

765
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I got hurt there too, That's what really. Yeah, that

766
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: was like my first real getting hurt experience, like surgery. Um,

767
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: and I remember I got hurt there, My boy Justice

768
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: wins all got hurt there. So we're pretty much hanging

769
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: out with each other until we had to leave the bubble,

770
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: And I mean that was kind of a blur. I

771
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie up until that point, it was a blur,

772
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: But that experience was I think we were just so

773
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: excited to play again that we weren't as mad about it.

774
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: But then again, you're away from your friends and your family,

775
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: it kind of gets to you a little. And I

776
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: mean people wanted to leave for sure. People want to leave.

777
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Man keep a hundrer air like people wanted to get

778
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: out but it's like it's testing basketball is all. We

779
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do, leave and do what like

780
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: not who uh you guys get your first taste of

781
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs in um although losing to the Jazz and

782
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: for one, what did that teach you personally? And what

783
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: did that teach your young team about? What this what

784
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: this playoffs like? Is like yeah, I mean there's no

785
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: fouls in the playoffs. You can you can off ball,

786
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: name somebody, you can punch somebody in the face, cutting

787
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: somebody out, so crazy ribs the lower rib areas open season.

788
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: You can set a crazy screen and and like you

789
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: can get away with a lot which they knew. And

790
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: it was funny, Like my first cut in game one.

791
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: I remember we were running a like we got the

792
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: tip and I was supposed to just it was a

793
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: bluff cut, Like I wasn't even part of the play really,

794
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I cut Royce O'Neil checks me going through like checks

795
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: me like harder than we have all year. We played

796
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: them four times. I'm like, alright, alright, alright, playoffs Okay, Okay,

797
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: I see where're on And then uh, I mean, moving

798
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: the ball is just so important. That's what you really

799
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: learned playing against the Jazz, like moving the ball. Every

800
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: possession matters. That like no one's crashing, everyone's getting back.

801
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: There's just slow half court basketball, Like it's like chess.

802
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: You're just playing chess. Everybody knows everybody real well. Every

803
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: tendency is known, so it's just about mismatches and knowing

804
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: everything about your opponent. That's when, like, um, I started,

805
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we I had nothing else to do but

806
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: play the Jazz, So like what I kind of thought,

807
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I got nothing else to do

808
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: with play this team, and this is what we work

809
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: for the whole time, I cut everybody off, like no

810
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: one could get to no one could talk to me,

811
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: like no friend, no, nothing, like you couldn't talk to me.

812
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: Um for the most part, I mean, and then I

813
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: was just I ended up looking at weird stuff about

814
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: the Jazz, like where the players were from, and I

815
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: ended up looking at little interviews there that they had

816
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: just to kind of I didn't know when I would

817
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: use that info, if I would, or at all, but

818
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: like I just wanted to get a feel for more

819
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: of who they were, just to just to just cause

820
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I had nothing else to study the Jazz I'm just like, man,

821
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: all right, I might as well, Like I'm on my computer,

822
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: I'll just be like, all right, I look up Donovan

823
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: talking about this, or I know Donovan from New York.

824
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: Like maybe I say about New York to him one

825
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: day in the game. Just throw him off, maybe just

826
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: make him miss he missed two more shots. I don't know.

827
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: He might miss too much shots, man, those and it's Donavans,

828
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, he's gonna take a bunch

829
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: if he misses too and that's what helps us winning.

830
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. But we only want one game, so

831
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: only on one. So, I mean, you see how that went.

832
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: They're a great team. They definitely taught us a lot well.

833
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean we I'm glad we got there, got that experience.

834
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: What do you know about the green and grind era.

835
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: What I really know is, I mean, it's self explanatory,

836
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's really mental. That's what

837
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: you really don't see much Like obviously everybody's physical, you grinding,

838
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: diving on the floor, but those things are given, like

839
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: that's what you should do. You should dive on the floor,

840
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: you should you should do all these things for your teammate.

841
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Like I hope you do because then because they're gonna

842
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: do it for you. But like the mental side, like

843
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: being locked in every game, being locked in ready to

844
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: play every game is tough, like you really gotta be

845
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: on UM. And that's like the what people don't see,

846
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: the preparation UM, the pedigree that comes from it. I mean,

847
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you had t A. T A is still Ta was

848
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: always around, Mike Tayshawn works for our team, so I

849
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: mean everybody looms around, Zach still goes to all the games.

850
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: You still have that that love, that family aspect kind

851
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: of and they pass it down. But at the same time,

852
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: they just they shared a lot of their stories to

853
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: share it and you can see on how they play, um,

854
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: how connected they were. Just it comes from the crowd too.

855
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean everybody around here embodies that like all the time.

856
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: So it's it's something real special, Like I can't even

857
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: explain it, and we still kind of had that it

858
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: don't it don't They don't go nowhere like it really

859
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: don't it don't. You guys are just a newer version

860
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, we're next GM. They allowed us to

861
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: be next Gen because they want us to have our

862
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: own thing. But Green Grinds has never gone and it

863
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: will never go away. It's just that's just what you

864
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: are at the end of the day. Explain jobs in

865
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: one word, um, electrifying, box office, box office, electrifying him

866
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: bright for real, really him. And I always say this,

867
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: I always say it about jocks. I love seeing this.

868
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: I get better, I get better ceased than all y'all

869
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: to see this because I'm right there seeing this, And

870
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: most of the time we don't even really know what

871
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: we're seeing until we back up and really think about

872
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: we're seeing some crazy stuff right now. Like I'll go

873
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: down to history and yeah, like he'd probably have a

874
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of people's highlights of their career in the game.

875
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: It's really funny, Like he gets some loud Bucky. It's

876
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: like you'll he'll he'll have thirty, and you'll be like,

877
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: that's about right. I probably thought he had fifty the

878
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: way he was what he was doing, and when he

879
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: has fifty, it's like, man, what kind of But I mean,

880
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: you see it, man, you see it now right in

881
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: l a back. Dude, I didn't seen them out do

882
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: y'all hang out up the court any Yeah, that's my brother.

883
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean we were kicking. We have a lot of common. Uh,

884
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: we jail really quick, like when he got here, because

885
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: we just read as we had a lot in common,

886
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: and we knew how Also we also knew how important

887
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: it was for us to be on the same page.

888
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: So it kind of gave us a little extra motivation

889
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: to just kind of jail and get to know each

890
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: other because we knew there was a chance, like you know,

891
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: a higher chance we'd be around each other alive. All

892
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: goes well, and if we do know each other, it

893
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: probably would go better. But I mean, now it's just organic.

894
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we just we're just we syncd up in

895
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Um, you're right. He's chilled. He's

896
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: very humble, very laid back. He doesn't change, like that's

897
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: one thing. That's one thing everybody knows about twelve. You

898
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: don't change for nobody, like the situation whatever is going on,

899
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be him, and he looks out for

900
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: his family, his family, He looks out for his friends,

901
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: he looks out for his teammates. He really cares about

902
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: other people, Like, I mean, all the time he puts

903
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: on from me, all the time, he he'd be saying,

904
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm Defensive Player of the Year. He'd be saying, I'm

905
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: All Star. Always say that's like, I mean, he says

906
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: it for everybody, like he makes sure he puts on everybody,

907
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: and um, I mean, I just that's just how he's built.

908
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: That's how he's raised, raised from good people. So that's

909
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: what you that's what you get, man, that's that's a

910
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: real dude, real dude. What's this? What's this? Craziest highlight

911
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: to you so far? Craziest highlight to me probably the

912
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: the little the fifty point game where he had a dunk,

913
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: he dunk off two from outside the paint and then

914
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: after called a full court passed and shot it over

915
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: the backboard at the buzzer. That or or like awesome,

916
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: real ship like the game winner against Phoenix was unreal,

917
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: because that's like real bucket, Like he he faked the handoff,

918
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: turned the corner and hung in the air for like

919
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: eight seconds and shot it. He went left, but shot

920
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: it with his right hand off the wrong leg, off

921
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: the glass, Like that's like too to hit that at

922
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: that time, Like I kind of knew he was gonna

923
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: shoot that because that's what he likes, but everyone else

924
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know. So to them, it's like, wow, that's a

925
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: ridiculous shot, but it's also a shot he works on,

926
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: and shot he likes. It's a I mean, there's so

927
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: many though, man, Like I forgot about them. Man, I

928
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: gotta like look at his highlights and see like like

929
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: one time we looked. I was on the plane and

930
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: he was just looking at his highlights and I was

931
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: just looking over his shoulder at it, and he was like,

932
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: usually when we look at each other's shoulder at I pass,

933
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: we're usually watching the film of the game. We'll talk

934
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: about it. He's a bro, uh you go, this is

935
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 1: just my mix. I'm like, Bro, I know I'm about

936
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: to watch this. This is fire. This is like this

937
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: is I'm telling you like you're you're doing it and

938
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: I just watched it and I'm looking at this own

939
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: damn twelve. Do you see this right now? I'm not

940
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: sure you're seeing this? And I like, well, I would

941
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: like hit his iPad, hit his hand out the way

942
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: and rewind that, Like, bro, look at this, Bro, do

943
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: you see this? Bro? And obviously he's laughing, but I'm like, man,

944
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: you need to know. Man, you're clapping your hands on

945
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: layups like this's not normal. Like a lot of this

946
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: stuff ain't normal. So Katie said it best. He has

947
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: a lot of great players, Like oh that he's a

948
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: lot of great players all wrapped in one. Like he's

949
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: he's different. You guys are coming down the home stretch

950
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. What's the environment like around your

951
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: team right now? I mean, you guys got a taste

952
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Now you guys have moved yourself up

953
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: to the two seed in the Western Conference. What's the

954
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: vibe and energy like around the team right now? We're

955
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: super focused. We're thankful that we're the two seed. We

956
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: don't take it for granted, but like we're really we're

957
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: reflecting a little bit, like man, good job, Like like

958
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're in this comfortable position because last year

959
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: we're fighting for playing and every game was not stressful,

960
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: but you just were thinking about it a lot. And

961
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: now we're just kind of thinking about putting ourselves in

962
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: the best position, but knowing that we're most likely gonna

963
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 1: be in there, um and then we're we're also knowing

964
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: how much we gotta lock in and understand this is

965
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: new for us, Like having a target on your back

966
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: is new, having people look at you. No one's gonna

967
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: You're not surprised at anybody. No one's happy for you.

968
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: You know you're not. You're not happy for a one

969
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: or two seed. You're not. You don't care, You're just

970
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: trying to knock them off. So I mean just us

971
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: knowing that us locking in every game, trying to be

972
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: there for each other because it's new to all of us.

973
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: So we're trying to right Like I'm trying to make

974
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: sure my dog over here is good so he can

975
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: make sure someone else is good, so everybody can lean

976
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: on each other, because you don't want to feel like

977
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, you just don't want to feel like you're

978
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: lost out there in in a new space. So and

979
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: just making sure you locked in. Like if we're not

980
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: in the plan, then we get a week off. Just

981
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: making sure we keep that focus and keep our energy

982
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: and practice is important. You're not a legal league practice

983
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: we need and practicing that much. So the practices we

984
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: have now we actually practice pretty hard today. They're important,

985
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: Like every practice important, were learning and every rep is important.

986
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Just to get our chemistry up, guys in and out

987
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: of the lineup. That's what it is. UM you're one

988
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: of these new stretch forwards that can shoot threes and

989
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: get to the basket, finish, do it all. But you're

990
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: also someone who leads across the majority of the defensive

991
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: categories all season. Where did that defensive mindset? Um? Or

992
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: when did that defensive mindset click in? And really know,

993
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: when when did you make that a part of your game? Yeah?

994
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: I always had it, um, It's just guards got better,

995
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. When I was really young, like you

996
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: could just let a guard go to the rim so

997
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: I can bocket because guards only knew one hand side

998
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: of the layups, like one hand to use. They had

999
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: no game, no flare. And then as we got older,

1000
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: they start getting some some tricky ship they you know,

1001
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: and then I had to get better on mine and

1002
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: kind of and but what helps for me is, like

1003
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: I work on a lot of the things guards worked on,

1004
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: So I start to remember how I would want to

1005
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: shoot a shot against me. Like I started to think

1006
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: about that when the guard's driving, and I'm like, all right,

1007
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: if a guard's driving, I know he's not coming all

1008
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: the way. I know he's about to shoot this floater,

1009
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: So I'm about to jump even earlier. So I jumped

1010
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: even earlier, and then I know he's about the ball fix,

1011
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: so I'm just not biting yet, and then try to

1012
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: jump in time the right and it's a whole game.

1013
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: It's like a chess match. And I think I really

1014
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: picked it up this year, Like being able to play

1015
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: against Gobert in the playoffs last year as a five

1016
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: more really kind of gave me a test on how

1017
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: to be like an anchor. And you gotta talk. It's

1018
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: a lot of talk. It's direction here. You can see everybody.

1019
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: You're just trying to give instructions and at the end

1020
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: of the day, like your gifts are cool, but like

1021
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: you shouldn't just think about blocking the shot because then

1022
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: it takes you out of everything else. The block is

1023
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: like the last piece. Like if you block it, cool,

1024
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to make it tough on everybody. You're

1025
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: supposed to make a hard These are great players, So

1026
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're in the league, you're nice, You're

1027
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna make some shots. You just gotta make it hard.

1028
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: And if I block it cool. But you know, I'm

1029
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: growing all the time. I grew year the year, like

1030
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: my arms is growing, so that also helps. I can't

1031
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: lie you mentioned earlier your teammate has been very outspoken

1032
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: as far as he thinks you should be defensive player

1033
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: of the year. Uh, do you think you're defensive player

1034
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: of the year. Of course I do. Yes, Okay, that's

1035
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I think, um, state your case

1036
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: right now. If for the world, the world is about

1037
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: to hear this, state your case to why you think

1038
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: you're defensive player of the year. Yeah, I mean, first off,

1039
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: always back yourself period. If you don't get that, you

1040
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: don't get it. Second, I mean, I just think the

1041
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: things I have to do besides blocking shots always separates

1042
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: me from people who be blocking shots like I have to.

1043
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: My responsibility isn't just that it just so happens that

1044
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm very good at that. But I'm able to switch

1045
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: on the guards contain. I'm able to, um, just be

1046
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: a presence other than blocking a shot to change the shot. Um.

1047
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: My timing, I think is just better on trying to

1048
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: time the type of blocks I'm getting our own ball.

1049
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: It's not just a guard shooting the lap and not

1050
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: knowing them. They're all block a shot and the half

1051
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: court on ball. And just figure it out myself while

1052
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: guarding the dude who's shifty and all that type of thing. Um,

1053
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: as well as what my responsibilities are on offense and

1054
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: what I've had to do offensively this year. I mean

1055
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: it's just been picked up. Especially. I mean there was

1056
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: a time when job was out for a little bit

1057
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: and everybody had to pick up their stuff, and I

1058
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: mean that just puts a lot of stress. Sometimes when

1059
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: you have more offensive duties, your defense can slack off

1060
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: and you kind of you might not be there mentally

1061
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: for that. You might just think it's about scoring for

1062
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: a second. But I know that never happened to me.

1063
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: If anything, my defense is picked up and I was

1064
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: just able to to do more. I was just more active, um,

1065
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, and all the analytics and all that stuff.

1066
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: That's cool, but that's for everybody else. You know, that's

1067
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: not my job. At the end of the day. That's

1068
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: cool to hear and see. I'm just out there too,

1069
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: do whatever I can to win. And we've won games.

1070
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I think I've what I've done is impact. It has

1071
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: impacted winning. So that's another difference than like previous years

1072
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: when we weren't really winning as many games. We're still

1073
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: in games and doing we gotta do but now we're

1074
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: a two seed, and no one thought we were gonna

1075
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: be that, so all right, okay, they might take that

1076
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: in consideration. We'll have to see. Ask me the best

1077
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: of luck on that he just dropped the album suddenly

1078
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: debut album. When did you start doing music and what

1079
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: got you well? I mean, of course we all know

1080
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: music and sports go hand in hand, but when did

1081
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: you officially say, you know what I'm dropping, I'm dropping

1082
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: music during the season. Yeah, Um, I mean freestyle rapping.

1083
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: I've always been doing that since I was younger, and

1084
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: my friends always just wrapping the crib. That's just easy.

1085
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: And at Michigan State me and j Pool really did

1086
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: it as roommates. And at Michigan State, Me and Miles

1087
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: did it every day like we were wrapped. Every day

1088
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: we come up and practice, put on a beat in

1089
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: the kitchen, we make some food and just wrap like

1090
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: we just wrapped, wrap, And eventually you do it enough

1091
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: stuff starts to sound a little fire. You're like, okay, damn,

1092
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: all right, and then I think, uh, when we would

1093
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: be on the plane rides, like I think around time

1094
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I was I was hurt or maybe before that, I

1095
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: would just sometimes write a verse, and I would not

1096
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: even have a beat or anything, just write a verse

1097
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: randomly for fun. Probably be pretty trash, but what ever,

1098
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: probably be something. And then I remember just one day,

1099
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: just decided to go to the studio and we're on

1100
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: the road. I was in New York, and I was like,

1101
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, let me try it. And going to the studio.

1102
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: It's funny like when you go to the studio, it's

1103
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: a lot different than just rapping. Like you can stop,

1104
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: you can pause, you can stay a line, and and

1105
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: you realize it's more about creation and just more about

1106
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: um sound like a bunch of stuff. And uh, I

1107
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: just was into that, Like I was just I always

1108
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: listen to music. I listen to so much music that

1109
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: I you know, it goes hand in hand. You're playing

1110
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: stuff in the locker room, you're playing stuff when we

1111
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: wake up, go to bed, you shower or anything like,

1112
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: you have different stuff. So I was just like, man,

1113
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: if my favorite artist ain't gonna drop, i'mna just make it.

1114
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: And I just was like, I'm I'm gonna start making it.

1115
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: And then I ended up getting in my house, so

1116
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: I got still upstairs and my homies come through and

1117
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: they like my homies to do music professionally, like they

1118
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: come through and they make their albums up there with

1119
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: their producers, and um, they'll go hand, they'll go crazy.

1120
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: And then when I go in there, I usually just

1121
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: did it as therapy, like we'd just be kicking it

1122
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: and if I felt something, I just wanted to say something,

1123
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: I just get in there, and then you eventually figure

1124
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: out how to record, and it's a process. But now

1125
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: it takes probably like thirty minutes to make a song

1126
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: just off the top of your head, whatever you're feeling,

1127
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: and and those are the songs that came out so eventually,

1128
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Like I was like, man, I always just made songs

1129
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: from my homies. I never thought I was really gonna

1130
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't think of it like that. And then

1131
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: dudes are just like, man, you should put it up.

1132
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, Well, I was never really that

1133
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: into it. A year went by and then I'm like,

1134
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, all right, maybe, and then I just ended

1135
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: up doing it randomly, Like the concept for suddenly in

1136
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: the concept for it all that came a week before.

1137
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I think I'm gonna

1138
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: put it out over break and we're just in the

1139
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: crib talking like like yeah, all right, I'm gonna put

1140
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: it out. And then we just picked the songs. They're

1141
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: already done, We already listened to them all the time.

1142
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: We just picked the ones we liked and put them

1143
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: on there. And it's funny, like I wanted to pick suddenly,

1144
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: like suddenly. The name was important to me because I

1145
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: usually will write a bunch of stuff down if I'm

1146
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: like if I'm coming home after the game and I

1147
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: can't sleep, I'll write down like something, how I'm feeling

1148
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: right now, I'll just right. And one time I wrote

1149
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: down like suddenly, like you always have to be ready

1150
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: because suddenly the opportunity is gonna come and you don't

1151
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: want to have to prepare to get ready. You're always ready.

1152
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: Suddenly it will happen like suddenly a door will open.

1153
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: That's really what it comes from. And I saw that

1154
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: written down, I'm just like, I want to call it suddenly.

1155
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Also for dudes like you ain't hear it. I don't

1156
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: want you to like hear some whack name and be

1157
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: like man, I'm not like to play it or like

1158
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: some goofy like at first, like everyone calls you call

1159
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: you like a unicorn, and I was like, oh, I'm

1160
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna name it dark. I was gonna a dark twisted

1161
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Unicorn and put the unicorn as the Kanye thing. But

1162
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that won't age. Like I'm gonna have

1163
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: to walk in the rooms and be like, yeah, you

1164
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: wrap beat. What's the name of it, dark twisted unicorn? Okay, yeah,

1165
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: uh huh yeah. So like suddenly, like you don't even

1166
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: know what said lead means to the point where you

1167
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: gotta listen to it just too, just figure it out.

1168
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: This is vibe seventeen minutes long. Um, I made it

1169
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: short because people got stuff to do. I work too,

1170
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: so I get it. I wanted something I could listen

1171
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: to fully on the drive to work, and he man,

1172
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: it's fine. I love it. Step five man, I know,

1173
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I mean. I heard your

1174
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: stuff even got on here. Yeah you had to. You

1175
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: had a freestyle on a French record. I saw that

1176
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: you had the bed to using the uh oh man,

1177
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: you had the scene, the classical scene, you know, the

1178
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: people people wake up out of the bed like like

1179
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm rapping, but I was asleep, Like, man, I was

1180
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: number I had number time in Milwaukee. I wasn't playing,

1181
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to set foot on that court. I

1182
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: was ready to get traded. So in the meantime between time,

1183
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: take these bars. Yeah, take these bars. Who was the

1184
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: best known rapping in the NBA? Two? Well you heard Miles, right,

1185
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: you've heard yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well he's no, he's elite.

1186
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: I'll say, mm hmm, Brandy English, Brendan English, pretty good, Um,

1187
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. I have a song on Obama. You

1188
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: do not want me to put it out? I only

1189
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: I only. I only respect athletes that actually dropped their music,

1190
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: like I was dropping to three mix tapes, ther seasons

1191
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: and and doing shows. So what's the point of doing

1192
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: and selling dope on the side, you know what I'm saying.

1193
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Whatever else it took Matt, you know what I'm saying

1194
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: to get a record, so hey. But but now I

1195
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: respect athletes that put their music out, man, because that

1196
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: mean not it's not only a hobby, but you believe

1197
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: in your music. And a lot of people try to

1198
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: put us in the box just because our contracts, our

1199
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: rages and our money is guaranteed. They tell you just

1200
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: play basketball, stick to basketball. But rappers can act, you know,

1201
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: and everybody else can do everything, but they try to

1202
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: put us in the box. So I always salute athletes

1203
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: that get behind their music and stand up and and

1204
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: and and put it out. So I salute you for that. Bro. Yeah,

1205
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a deep concept. Why though, Like, uh,

1206
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, people my age don't really get this. So

1207
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a good lesson for people my age.

1208
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: But like when you when you're when you're in passing,

1209
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: like if you're in hospice, like people who are in hospice,

1210
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: people are going to pass, Like the biggest thing they

1211
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: think of is regret, Like that's what kills and that's

1212
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: what people say, like regret kills you, Like you'll die,

1213
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: but regret kills you. And you don't want to sit

1214
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: there and like everything you do should be about that moment,

1215
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: like when you look back, like that you did it. Here,

1216
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: you did this, you did that right, Man, this joint,

1217
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm in the crib, like, man, this joint, drop this joint.

1218
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't really like at the end of the day, man,

1219
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: we got everybody out here and then I put it

1220
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: out and it was fine. Everybody liked it. It was

1221
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: what's up? So we know you're a big anime fan.

1222
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: What's anime? Found him? Like an NBA. People don't really

1223
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: be people. People don't really be tapped into anime. It's

1224
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: like an acquired taste or you gotta have it before

1225
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: and I get honestly, anime really just teaches you lessons

1226
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: if you really pay attention. Behind all the flash and

1227
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: like all the like Japanese like you know, there's a

1228
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that will throw you off right if

1229
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: you're not really looking at it, but like it teaches

1230
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: you lessons, like it's a message in all of it.

1231
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: I got an eight year old, so I watch it. Yeah,

1232
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty like it's a lot of like goofy ship,

1233
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: but like there's a lot of stuff that like when

1234
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: you when you watch long enough, you'll be like damn,

1235
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: Like these people are going through it and it kind

1236
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: of makes you look at your own stuff, like you know,

1237
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: maybe I am going through it, but one I'm not

1238
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: going through it like this, And like let's just show

1239
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: an Attack on Titan. Very good, probably one of the

1240
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: best ones on Hulu, And like it's about humanity, like

1241
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: how it's like how we let's say we're living in

1242
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: humanity and there's these giants around that at any point

1243
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: could just wipe us all out. So we have to

1244
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: protect ourselves from these giants. And that's what life is about,

1245
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: protecting ourselves these giants while living day to day the child,

1246
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: the child wipe us out and at the end of

1247
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: the day, like I mean, you look at people losing

1248
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: like they're they're they're family, their cousins, their friends, their brothers.

1249
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: Like when you see that, yes, enemy, But if you

1250
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: have some weird problem, like if you have a problem

1251
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: with your girl, if you have a problem with your homie,

1252
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: if you have a problem with your mind, like you

1253
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: can fix that. You can't fix losing someone. There's things

1254
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: that aren't fixable. Like, so you gotta kind of like

1255
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Speaker 1: a problem is only a big problem to you because

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: it's you. Like if you step out and really look

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: at the whole perspective of it, it ain't no problem

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: and it's a problem, but it shouldn't ruin your focus

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Definitely shouldn't ruin your focus on

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: court perspective. Yeah, okay, you received the community system ward

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Speaker 1: and very important of giving back to you young girls sports. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I fell in love uh with girls sports from watching

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Speaker 1: Kobe and his passion with his daughter, and uh, I

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: was I started the first UM female high school showcase

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: that was headlined by NBA player in Memphis, right right

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Speaker 1: there in Memphis. But when did you get your love

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: to and your and your well as I say, uh,

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01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for, Matt and your passion?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, your passion for giving back to

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Speaker 1: women's sports. I mean, definitely few fuel through my mom.

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Speaker 1: But just overall, being a good person is important and

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Speaker 1: it's just a human thing to do. You speak out

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: for people who may have not not a problem, but

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01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: you speak up for people who you who could always

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01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: use a little more in terms of getting their voice

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: out there. So I just view that as something that

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Speaker 1: was close to me, important to me. I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of cousins and I have a lot of girls

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: in my life who play sports, and you know, I

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: know that they can be overlooked at times and ways

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: like that, and that is definitely We've came a long way,

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: like for sure come a long way with that in

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01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: that area. But I always want to make sure I'm

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Speaker 1: making a difference for them. Um, It's just it's just

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Speaker 1: the human thing to do. It comes natural Uh, nothing.

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: I can really put my finger on on why. But

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Plus I love being around I

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01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: love being around kids and just pushing the youth new heights,

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Speaker 1: um and just making sure everybody's giving the having their voice. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, so that Wayne thing, he said, a boy, Wayne,

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Speaker 1: this is off topic because you know that was deep

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: in love. But that Wayne thing, I have a crazy

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: quote by Wayne. I always keep with me. It's the

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01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: craziest thing. Was he was sitting like, because Wayne, Wayne,

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01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, Wayne smoke his ass off, so he's just

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: be in the clouds. He'll say the most poetic thing

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01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: and then never remember it. But I quote by Wayne

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: I have in my notes, and like it's only that

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01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: quote in the notes. That's how you know it's bad.

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: He said. He said, work hard, be somebody, Be something

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: more than what you see in the mirror. Let the

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: world be your mirror. Don't let them judge you, because

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01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: the mirror can't judge you. You judge what you see

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: in the mirror. Crazy crazy I was. I heard that, like,

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01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, this man just I wasn't even sure

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: what's going on, but I was it. I don't know

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: what that should mean, but it sounds good when you

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01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: say that, was it? Like Wayne is a beast? All right?

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Speaker 1: We have quick hitters man, first thing to pop in

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01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: your mind. Let us know top five current NBA rappers

1311
01:06:46,560 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: in your opinion? Meles dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, Miles Bridges, Um, oh, damn,

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, Marvin Bagley, Um, yeah, and I'll say, Brandon Clark,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, my brother, you ain't even check it out.

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: His stuff ain't even out yet, but you don't. He

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: don't count. All right, Well then then I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw Uh, I'm gonna throw mm hmm me twice, me

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01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: twice Miles, Marvin and Dame because Dame appreciate you put

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: yourself first. How you put yourself first? And everybody's got

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Speaker 1: in lane like Dame is you know, poetic. You know

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: he's he's rapping that reel, you know that real like

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01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: he and the barbershop with like and with it like

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: he'll play it on the boom box like over his

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: head like Miles really from Flint. If you ain't from

1324
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: Flint or Detroit, you don't know, then you just don't know.

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: And then me just a lot of swag, a lot

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: of good sounds. I feel good. You know some girls

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01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: may like it as you post posted to rapping for

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 1: the women, because if you wrap for the women, the

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: good guys gonna come and exactly. And then Marvin got

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: songs like Tory Lanes. He like a you know Marvin

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: out here, so shout out Marvin Man. He was really

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: doing it. I think he's signed. He signed straight up

1333
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: on some that ship stuck on the island with three

1334
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: shows and movies. What you're watching ozark Um, Snowfall, thank you?

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: And oh I'm watching any of the Batman movies. I'm watching,

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: like the The Dark Knight, the New Ones, Hard the

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: Dark Knight, or the one with Bain. I'm much you

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: want to know, just give me in that mode. Mm hmm.

1339
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Toughest matchup you've had up to this point in your career.

1340
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: Mh probably Anthony Davis um in ways, Oh, Steven Adams

1341
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: before he was on my teeth. That's a strong motherfucker,

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: ain't it. Yeah, it's it's a whole it's a whole experience.

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: It's like playing it's like playing it back to back

1344
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: in one game. And uh, I'd probably say uh um.

1345
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean just when you play Steph your garden him

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: as a team man. He's shooting fifty shots. Everybody's gonna

1347
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: get a few. So that's that's definitely a shared experience

1348
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: playing stuff. Five five dinner guests dead are alive mm

1349
01:09:50,160 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: hmm um five is Heath Ledger mm hmm um yeah right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I would say Juice World Rist is soul as well.

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: Um m, it's funny like all the old old head

1352
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: basketball players I knew growing up from all those little

1353
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: legends brunches, and they used to be all funny like

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: I used to like they used to grab my head

1355
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: and grub my forehead and grab my head a time

1356
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: like I used to already already dealt with them. So

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01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: like um mm hmm Kobe mm hm for sure, mm hmm.

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and uh dinner, I guess. And then maybe

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01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: I want to meet somebody like weird, like I want

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: to put like somebody who did something like a criminal

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: or something, some type of criminal. That last spot is

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: some type of criminal. I need you got to spice

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: it up. Ain't no way like we gotta have something

1364
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: like what did you like somebody really messed up, you know,

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: so that spot is open. I ain't got no name

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: for that. But if you really messed up, you're coming

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01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: to dinner. I mean, I like you. But that's the

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01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: whole point, you know, we had dinner. Strike that conversation. Uh.

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: If they're passing you, if you're controlling the music in

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: the locker room before the game, what's one song you're

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna play. We're playing a lot of young boy, young boy.

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01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: We're playing an off side by young boy. We're playing

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01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: some baby. Probably gonna hear gang signs by little baby.

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: You're prior how you did that? By gonna Uh, you'll

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01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: probably hear popping by yeat you guys. Just something, you guys,

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: just something a boy, go ahead and do that. When

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: we're done, I promise you'll say something. But yeah, yeah,

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: your head, that's the dude, man, real do right there?

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah all right man, if you can have one guests

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: on All the Smoke, who would it be? And who

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: would it be? But before you answer the question, you

1382
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: have to help us get your answer on our show.

1383
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I gotta help you. Yep, uh m hmm.

1384
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: Floyd Floyd been Hugh No, Floyd Floyd. I think hey,

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: look Floyd, look, come to All the Smoke, right now

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: come to all the smoke. You you're gonna you're gonna

1387
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: feel You're gonna feel cozy, and you're gonna you're gonna

1388
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: not want to do it because you're gonna say some

1389
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: stuff you really feel. But I think it's by the

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: time you say some stuff you really feel. Right, you

1391
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: got all the money, you got eight chains on. I

1392
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: saw the Cubans from the one pick. It was I

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 1: was written, Yeah, that was ridiculous. It looked like a

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: little mini Mr Tea. Yeah, yeah, he was everybody that

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: he was bugging. But you know, like I mean, shoot,

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he does a lot of like exercises.

1397
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: You never know how how it was weighing him down

1398
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: or anything like that, vvs to them or not in size.

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of you. They were good, Jaren Jackson. Man,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Wish you the best of luck

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season, man, and we'll be checking

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: out the playoffs man, So thank you for your time today.

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 1: Appreciate legendary. Appreciate your brother. That's a rap Jaren Jackson Jr.

1404
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: Look for him and his Memphis Grizzlies coming to the

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: playoffs near you. Very soon. You can catch this a

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball YouTube and the I Heart platform Black Effects.

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,639
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