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Speaker 1: Today we're going to Beverly Hills. But one of the

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Speaker 1: most infamous and iconic limo scenes in housewives history. This

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Speaker 1: is the episode where Kyle and Kim Richards get into

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Speaker 1: a blowout after Taylor Armstrong's birthday party season one. Yikes,

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Speaker 1: we are bringing in O G. Beverly Hills icon tory

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Speaker 1: spelling to give us the inner scoop of the nine one. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season one, episode thirteen, unforgivable.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Wow, she does exist. What a weird life.

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Speaker 1: I remember going to the Roxy. There was like a

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Speaker 1: bar upstairs and and you know, I was You were

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Speaker 1: younger than I was, but I was a young woman

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Speaker 1: in l A working as a p A and say

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Speaker 1: by the bell and like you and Shannon came in

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Speaker 1: and it's just like it was the biggest thing in

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Speaker 1: the world to happen to me. You guys were just

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Speaker 1: like these idols, and it's just crazy that now we're

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Speaker 1: talking to each other, that you would be on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's just funny, Like I just went back there really

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Speaker 1: like one of my idols. Wait, you buried the headline

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Speaker 1: you were a pa on Saved by the Bell. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what I was on Saved by the Bell. I think

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Speaker 1: you were, but I didn't were you? Was it before nine? O?

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Speaker 1: Two and O? It was right before and then a

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Speaker 1: little crossover in nine think so right, So I probably

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Speaker 1: didn't know who you were, Like I think so many

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Speaker 1: people came through there, Denise Richards, who I know now,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know who anybody was because they weren't

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Speaker 1: who they were going to be yet exactly, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Um, hi and well, Hi, Hey, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. Well, I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to have you and this little show that could has

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Speaker 1: become sort of a an instant sensation and it's really

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Speaker 1: fun conversations about something really often stupid. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to ride and I just I was just on

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Speaker 1: the phone Andy Kohen and Jeff Lewis because it is

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Speaker 1: crazy Watch What Happens Live episode that we had and

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Speaker 1: it was like an explosive, weird Watch what Happens Live

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Speaker 1: that people are going crazy about. So, gosh, what happened

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Speaker 1: to you? Well? I was just on the show and

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Speaker 1: because of this particular podcast that you're on, which in

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Speaker 1: my opinion is different because it's different sorts, types of guests,

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Speaker 1: you know it. Look, Elizabeth Moss launched the show, and

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Speaker 1: other people in the Bravo sphere have been like frustrated

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Speaker 1: that I did it because for years I've said things

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Speaker 1: about the Housewives that it was toxic for me, which

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Speaker 1: it was, And so now to go back and do

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Speaker 1: a show reflecting, which I don't think they're related. I

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Speaker 1: think you're allowed to go back and reflect on something

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Speaker 1: that may have me. Course, right, So it's been a

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Speaker 1: big thing and that, of course, and the show has

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Speaker 1: done extremely well. And then I went on to watch

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Speaker 1: What Happens Live and the audience perceived it to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit, of their words, an ambush like that.

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Speaker 1: I was literally hitting fastballs to the left and to

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Speaker 1: the right between Jeff Lewis and Andy more from Jeff Lewis.

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Speaker 1: But it was not something that didn't, you know, require

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Speaker 1: a professional tennis player, which I was last night away

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Speaker 1: your game. You have to be Jeff is a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, but you got to be on your game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and my daughter was there, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: all this doesn't matter except to say that after me

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Speaker 1: discussing it with Jeff and Andy. But not being I

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Speaker 1: wasn't hurt because we're all you're I'm sure I'll hear

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Speaker 1: from you soon that you're the same. We've all been

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Speaker 1: beaten up for so many years, you're not even hurt it.

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Speaker 1: It's just normal business, right. But to say to them

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Speaker 1: it was perceived as nasty by not only the public

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Speaker 1: different ways. But really Jeff really apologized, and it was

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Speaker 1: just I came to tears and it was something very

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Speaker 1: simple about just I'm sorry, because nobody says I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: People just trash each other in the media. Like for

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Speaker 1: someone to say I'm sorry instead of just going on

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Speaker 1: their show today to go on a three week tour

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Speaker 1: of bashing each other, it was actually a really nice

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Speaker 1: Hallmark moment. Wow, wait, did I hear this wrong? You said,

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Speaker 1: And I said, he said, I'm you know, he just

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Speaker 1: overall is that it's not what we do, it's what

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Speaker 1: no one's allowed to make mistakes anymore. We all know that. Nope,

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Speaker 1: there are no mistakes in Hollywood especially, So all right,

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Speaker 1: so Beverly Hills, Yes, you live in Beverly Hills, now,

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Speaker 1: I do not. Technically I live in Hidden Hills. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: you live in Hidden Hills, which is a little like

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Speaker 1: more suburbs. Yes, there's like animals everywhere, but thanks to Kardashians,

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Speaker 1: it's like Beverly Hills adjacent now but with animal property. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you live in the McMansions and walk your goats down

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Speaker 1: the street. You know, that's very normal. That's we're just

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Speaker 1: they have. But um, which is ironic you said, right,

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Speaker 1: we're saying that because I grew up with it exactly. Um,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm an o G Beverly Hills fan.

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Speaker 1: Like I watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills in New York. And I'm not just saying

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Speaker 1: that because you were on it, but I'm just those

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Speaker 1: every single season, so I had to go. I was like,

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Speaker 1: of course I know this episode, but I went back

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Speaker 1: and rewatched it, and I watched it with my daughter,

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Speaker 1: who watches every episode now, my four child, and she goes, Mom,

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Speaker 1: what show is this? And I go Real Housewives of

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Speaker 1: another one, and why is Kyle on it? And what

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Speaker 1: do you think? Well, but what's the reason. It was

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Speaker 1: the fact that no one was as glamd or it

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Speaker 1: didn't recognize the cast, like physically physically it was a

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Speaker 1: the people are different, not that the faces are different, right,

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Speaker 1: Well yeah that was really didn't know what different? Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is what seventeen years ago exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then she started to get into it and watched it,

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Speaker 1: bit slower. It's not as glam the life. It was

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Speaker 1: a difference to her. Well one episode. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I in my life on Housewives, I was one of

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Speaker 1: how swept to go on Twitter, which isn't like a

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Speaker 1: big statement. No one was on Twitter. There was no

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Speaker 1: Twitter um and back then Tamil Grammer answered her answering machine.

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Speaker 1: In one of the episodes, she has a message on

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Speaker 1: her fanswering machine. Okay, so also to be on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I talked about it, I'll watch what happens live

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Speaker 1: for people coming on. They want to show off how

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Speaker 1: much money they have. They want to show I have

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Speaker 1: a Ferrari, but it's least I have this the house,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the secrets and Beverly Hills. But the

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Speaker 1: their house. It's mortgaged. And you know, Beverly Hills is

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Speaker 1: a small, big town, and I'm thinking this, these people

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Speaker 1: know specific people that have been on this show, and

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Speaker 1: circular it's a circular reference, and it's here that as

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and I've never gotten to talk to

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Speaker 1: someone about it that actually knows about it. The process. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I go off with Jenny Garth, my best friend,

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Speaker 1: So literally, there was always speculation I was going to

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Speaker 1: it would be like Tori spelling and talks, and I'd

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Speaker 1: I called my agent, did they call? And They're like, now,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any ego at all, and I've been

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Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. I don't get I would never

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Speaker 1: think of you for that show. It just I don't

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Speaker 1: the number one thing that you have to be. He goes, well,

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Speaker 1: do you know anyone. I said, I'm friends with every

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Speaker 1: single person on the show, and he goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't get it. And I was like, what,

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Speaker 1: So who knows he'll hear about this. Um, I have

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Speaker 1: a weird feeling. Okay, So wow, that's so interesting. Yeah, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: So going back to Taylor, So that house there in

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Speaker 1: we looked at that house two rent. Now you're still married, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm still married. Wow, that's a whole thing. That's another

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Speaker 1: talk show. That's amazing. That's like, good for you because

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Speaker 1: sticking through and like everything I've heard that's just headlines,

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Speaker 1: but like the fact that you're on this you're renting

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Speaker 1: and partnership. So um, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I currently

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Speaker 1: it's the Christmas season and I have seven kids right

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Speaker 1: now because we have his x as two kids, so

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Speaker 1: one from his marriage and my stepson and then her

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Speaker 1: family right now. But more the merrier. So but that house.

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Speaker 1: That house we looked at and they were like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: someone famous rented it and they were like Taylor, and

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Speaker 1: I looked at that house, So does that mean she

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Speaker 1: doesn't check, like the one at the housewife dinner party

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Speaker 1: from Hell that woman didn't apparently check out after the

424
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Speaker 1: crazy one with the East cigarette. But wait, wasn't that

425
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: the famous medium that they did the show after? But

426
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: then I was on with Dave Portnoy. He came on

427
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: here and we did research. My producers did research, and

428
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: the police departments and I don't know if it was

429
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: the FBI, the people investigating crimes said that they later

430
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: had to make a comment after the show, saying none

431
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: of the advice she gave ever led to solving any crimes.

432
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: Like they literally made public statements. Yeah, so that's why

433
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: I was I gotta say, what was her name? I

434
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: forget her name. Um, I have no idea, will figure

435
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: your Tricia Arquette played her right exactly. She knew a

436
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: friend of mine who was a makeup artist, and she

437
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: had done her makeup and she said, Um, this famous

438
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: medium said you're going to have huge financial problems one day,

439
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: and then you're going to write a book and make millions.

440
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: I went on to have huge financial problems, like I

441
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: lost everything at some point. This is way before, So

442
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: she is credible. I mean, you met that same woman, bro,

443
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: you make the crazy woman yourself and she I haven't

444
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: met her, my makeup artist, and this is literally probably

445
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. Um, and she said, yeah, she's gonna

446
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: have huge financial problems. I was like on top of

447
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: the world, Reality TV, everything then, and uh, she's gonna

448
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: lose everything and then she's going to build it back

449
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: and write a huge book and tell women how to

450
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: get back on track. But I'm still I'm still waiting

451
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: for that. But why was she telling your makeup artists

452
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: stuff about you? Why isn't she telling Okay, she wanted debate, Okay,

453
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: well all right, well listen everybody, even if fault is

454
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: right twice a day. Yeah, she's somewhat, she's somewhat le Okay,

455
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: so we have that guy Cedric, which that whole thing

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: was bizarre. This is I mean, it was fun to

457
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: look at the hot guys who's living with Lisa and Ken.

458
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: Lisa looked beautiful, by the way, like she really did

459
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: you know that weren't like what I was like Jacqueline

460
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: Smith old like old Charlie's Angels days. It was really pretty.

461
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: They all looked great. I was just looking at their

462
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: skin and I was like, these are things you don't

463
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: realize but seventeen years ago, Wow, skin texture, you forget

464
00:23:47,600 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: that just yeah changes, Yeah, they were all going. So

465
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: Lisa didn't you know, because I've been talking about my

466
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: mount Rushmoors of housewives and I've been dabbling with whether

467
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: she would be one, because I thought that she was.

468
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: She didn't seem to get particularly invested or dirty in

469
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: this episode, like she seems some some housewives sort of

470
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: ride on the outskirts, aren't really like right in the

471
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: meat of the matter, and I felt that she was

472
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: sort of not really in the meat of any matter

473
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: on this particular show. You think like even she didn't

474
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: get dirty at all. So is that how she blew up?

475
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: Is that she just like went on the outskirts for

476
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: a while, got everyone in, and then it's usually not

477
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: a good formula because it's sort of that like Jacqueline

478
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Loreta be nice to everybody, be friends with that one,

479
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: don't really get dirty. It was never a good formula

480
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: on The Apprentice either. To fly under the radar works

481
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: for a while until it doesn't um, But I think

482
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: she later gets more into it. I did not. I

483
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: guess I didn't really realize. I knew they were good

484
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: friends and I met Lisa through Kyle, but that they

485
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: were best friends, like really best friends. And I also

486
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: was just so moved by We talked about it a

487
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: lot with Jersey, but you don't talk about it a

488
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: lot with Beverly Hills. This show started as a family show.

489
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: You Kyle and Kim coming on this show together. Yeah, seriously,

490
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: you're right. It started as a family show. And I

491
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: know that they were going to do another show with Kathy,

492
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: and Kathy wasn't that thrilled because the two of them

493
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: branched off and came over here to do this show.

494
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think at that time Rava wanted Kathy

495
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: and now she's like a breakaway star. But at that

496
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: time I was really about the two of them, and

497
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: it was that was the beginning of some drama because

498
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: the two of them were wanted to do some television

499
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: aspect and it pulled over to the Housewives versus doing

500
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: something on their own with Kathy. I don't know if

501
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: you know that. No, I didn't know. I just assumed

502
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: watching it back, I was like, oh, wow, yeah, it

503
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: really did start with the two of them. I guess

504
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: they didn't something that wasn't going right. There's always a

505
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: problem with those three, like there's someone's always pickering. So

506
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe they weren't getting along with Kathy.

507
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't really under stand, but I

508
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: was like, wow, it did take me back to how

509
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, you can't cast things that it always comes

510
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: through whether it's authentic, and I was like, wow, this

511
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: is where it all started. Like it's super authentic, super authentic,

512
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: and usually play dates of three don't work. It's back

513
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: in my day in Lascala with Fara at four years

514
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: old and Kyle. Cathy was like another mother to Kyle.

515
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: Cathy ran the show. Kyle was a young girl dating

516
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: Maurice Ceo. I was with her, you know, and during

517
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: the time that she met him, he was in the

518
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: garment industry. He wasn't particularly wealthy. He was just working,

519
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: you know. He had promise and his family came from

520
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: a nice family. But Cathy was the one living in

521
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Jocqueline Smith's house with like at that time years ago,

522
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: they had Channel bags. I didn't know what Chanelle bag

523
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: was like. They had Faberge eggs in their closet and

524
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: Judith Lieber bags and like, you know, but that was

525
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: really Cathy was the one who made good, Like she

526
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: married a Hilton, and Kyle was still finding her way

527
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: and young, and Hathy was in charge. Which I think

528
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: we always feel the same way in Dynamics, and I

529
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: do sometimes see that with Kyle and Kathy where she's

530
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: like a little nervous disappoint her and like with Kyle,

531
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: came in to our own on her own, and I

532
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: think that upset the apple cart, it did. I wonder

533
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: what the show would have been like if the three

534
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: of them had started on that show. Very amazing question.

535
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: It would they would have come in with Kathy sort

536
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: of as the boss. And I think when Kathy came

537
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: in later, she was coming into Kyle's show. So there's

538
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of deference between Ky and Kathy that

539
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: always will be there, just like you with a parent

540
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: or somebody that you know, even if it's people have

541
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: family dynamics, and even if it's something negative, they always

542
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: like you could be a billionaire and coward to your father,

543
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: who is you know, delivering male because there's a dynamic

544
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: that was set where they're smarter than you, they're better

545
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: than they're just like there was a dynamic set early on,

546
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: and Kathy was the matriarch and Kyle kind of just

547
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: like wanted her approval and listened and that she shaken up.

548
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: She was vander Pump. Vander went on to be yes,

549
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: but I met in their family like she was the

550
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: boss of the girls. You know, it was like she

551
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: was the mini big Kathy from my perspective, you still

552
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: see that exactly. But when Kyle went off and made

553
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: her her own decisions and lived her own life with

554
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: her own husband, that shook it all up between the families,

555
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: which is you know, and I would I I know

556
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: where I know a lot of secrets and I will

557
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: not share any of Kyle's secrets or the family secrets.

558
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is just dynamics, um, and that's okay. Yeah,

559
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: and that's so and kids coming back. I can't imagine

560
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Kathy won't come back. She for whatever reason. And I

561
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: talked to Nicky and Paris about like, what the hell

562
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: she doing this for? But she she likes it. She

563
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: likes it, and she's a great she's great. And in fairness,

564
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: she's grown up with Harris being the most famous person

565
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: in the universe, Nikki being another famous person in that sphere,

566
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: Kyle becoming super famous, growing up with Kim as a

567
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: sister who was major child star. But she's the only

568
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: one who isn't. Kid points out in this episode every interview. Oh,

569
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: let's go into it. Okay, So now we have Kim

570
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: who you she was a real child star and she

571
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: does point that out a lot. Oh my god, returned

572
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: to a Witch Mountain, returned to Witch Mountain. That was

573
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: everything when I was a kid, same like, it was

574
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: real and she was beautiful And how hard does that

575
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: have to be? Listen, you've seen every single person in

576
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: how we've been through being a child star. You've been scrutinized.

577
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: You've been famous, you've been less famous, you felt relevant,

578
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: less relevant. How hard does that have to be with

579
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: her going from being the one big star she was

580
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: mcaulay Culkin in her household and in l A. I mean,

581
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: she had her chance. It could have been her American

582
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: horror story. She could have had her comeback on The Housewives,

583
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: saying the Housewives, Yeah, because McAuley Culkin, did you see

584
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: among American horse story. Yes, that's a great great your smell,

585
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I like your smart that's a great right. This is

586
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: her chance her Lisa were, uh, you know, yes, interesting, Yes,

587
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: And I will say and I'm going to defend Kyle,

588
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: not because we're friends, not. I'm totally straight up one hundred.

589
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I've known him for years and I knew she had

590
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: struggles and there was she was somewhat dramatic and problematic

591
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: for others in the family, and by and large in

592
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: this Semmario, Kyle is is mostly right. I don't agree

593
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: with that how everybody treated him in certain ways, but

594
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Kyle really didn't. She didn't really do anything. But I

595
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: feel like they went back and saw what they had

596
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: in this episode and what happens in the limo and

597
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: what Kim says and what Kyle says, and they went

598
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: back and asked her the right interview questions. They they

599
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: asked him the right interview questions. But but on face value,

600
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: on face value, you have him, I guess didn't speak

601
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: up and defend Kyle at another dinner, which I understand.

602
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: She's a meek person who doesn't. But I understand that

603
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: in a way because she's a person who doesn't want confidt.

604
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: That makes that tracks to me? Does that track to you? Yes?

605
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: So that tracks and so Kyle's going in hard. When

606
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm considering my mouth Rushmoores, I did now consider Kyle

607
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Moore because that was the beginning of this whole ride

608
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: of house was and I feel like she was bold,

609
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: like you saw her. She was a little bit like

610
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: a dog on a bone at that party, Kyle, like

611
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: she was saying what she felt. People became more and

612
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: more guarded in this series. Years later, she was like

613
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: not guard you know. She was like, I'm a housewife

614
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say it. There's the cameras and

615
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: we're going to go into it now. And I did

616
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: feel like there were plenty of years were where Kyle

617
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of stayed even keeled neutral and didn't jump in

618
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: too much. Now, well, I've thought that too. She had

619
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: some time. Yeah, I agree. I agree, and to the

620
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: point where I would talk to newbies watching the show

621
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: because I'm an O G watcher and my stepson is

622
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: twenty four and when he started watching was way into it.

623
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: He was like, Kyle was boring. And I was like,

624
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: don't never say that. Kyle is not boring. And then

625
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I was like, have you watched from the beginning and

626
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: he was like no, and I was like, and now

627
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: he loves Kyle. But there was that moment and yeah,

628
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: she really spoke her mind back then. But going back

629
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: to Kim thing, Yeah, I know, Kim felt like she

630
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: was meek and she didn't want to say anything in

631
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: front of people, but Kyle gave her an opportunity. She said, Kim,

632
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: you were there. You were the only one there. Like

633
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: she was saying to her, now was your moment? Please?

634
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: She like gave her that in it's your sister, like

635
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: even if you don't feel comfortable, you gotta say yeah.

636
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: But there was a thing that this is why you

637
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: kind of go on television with family member in this manner.

638
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: But there was a saying at the bar where Kim

639
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about the end. It's Taylor's thirty ninth birthday. Um,

640
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the maloof woman because I found

641
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: that to be something I want to discuss too. But

642
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: we're on a rooftop party and Kyle comes in and

643
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: it just starts right away. She mentioned to the audience

644
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: and to everybody else that Kim has been drinking, which

645
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I didn't find on that night to be a particular problem.

646
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: She didn't seem wasted at all, no, which was odd

647
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: because we've seen her like at parties and events who

648
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: are like, oh, she's wasted. No, she didn't seem at all.

649
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: So where was that coming from? Then? Right? That was

650
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: a thing where I didn't really see that. But there

651
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: was a moment where Kim is like whatever, I'm paraphrasing,

652
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: But she looked at Kyle and was like, don't you

653
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: go there? Like she warned her in a way that

654
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: you see on certain reunions, and you see with like

655
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Jersey reunions of family members like don't you go there?

656
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that was like a foreshadowing

657
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: to what was happening in the car, or if that's

658
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: like we're family and don't you get into my addiction,

659
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: or if it's like don't you get into that I

660
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: was paying for your house, or like whatever that ship

661
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: was and then the stuff, but the mother came out

662
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: like that was I picked you because you're from Beverly Hills,

663
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: and we picked this episode because it's an iconic episode,

664
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: and many times these iconic episodes are just these one

665
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: scene that just crystallizes so many things, the dynamics and family,

666
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: and then in this situation, it kind of was irreparable.

667
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Like I bet you they still to this day haven't

668
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: come back from that scene in that limo. They can't.

669
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: There's no way, you know, either you forget or you forgive,

670
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: but you don't do both or either really like you

671
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: know you just I I don't know in that moment

672
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: where she said don't you go there, I don't know

673
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: where she was going, Like it couldn't possibly possibly have

674
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: been the house, Like why why would that come up?

675
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: If it was the addiction thing? It could be. I

676
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: think it had a little addiction and a little Cathy,

677
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: like a little christ Jan or a little like don't

678
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: funk around with the family on this show right now,

679
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 1: because when you went to reality show TV, don't forget

680
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: this was not He just says, we're talking like you

681
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: said seventeen years now later into reality TV and what

682
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: we all know is normal, like then the Housewives, wasn't

683
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: this phenomenon and what Okay? So back then when you

684
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: went when I went on and I wanted to be

685
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: a natural food chep, I thought I was going to

686
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: be able to not get into any of this personal

687
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: stuff and just talk about that I wanted to be

688
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: a natural food chef. And then all my my boyfriend

689
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: was like, just so all you're seeing just talk about cooking,

690
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: like immediately you are launched out of a cannon and

691
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: into this type of stuff. So I imagine when they

692
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: signed on and Kathy wasn't part of it, and they

693
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: had that already dispute about the fact that Kathy, you know,

694
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: they were going to go off and do another show.

695
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: Kathy and camera sitting here and we're getting into it.

696
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: We're already going against the family on national television. So

697
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: I think it could have been something like that. Do

698
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: you think they discussed that before, like Okay, we're gonna

699
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: do this, We're not gonna discuss anything about the family

700
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: any past secrets and and was that something Kim was like, Okay,

701
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: I've had past addiction stuff. I don't want to talk

702
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: about that pile. Don't ever bring that up. There must

703
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: have been ground rules within the family set well, like

704
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm I think probably a little. But also, you don't

705
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: know what this show is. It's my show is called Manhattan.

706
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: Mom's about moms trying to get their kids into school.

707
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Like you don't know what the words mean. You've seen

708
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Orange County. It was like, like the biggest thing that

709
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: ever happened on our show is Kelly saying I'm up,

710
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: you're and you're down here? Now people are you know,

711
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: sending people to jail like that. It's just not the

712
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: same level. So I don't know that you can prepare.

713
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: And the game starts moving too fast, real fast. I

714
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: had a scene where I was with a guy I

715
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: was in a relationship and we were actually talking about

716
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: moving in but he didn't want to be on TV.

717
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, so why do they can move

718
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: in together? And he's like, we'll talk about it later.

719
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm like right and thinking in my head, oh, but

720
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: the cameras are right there, So let's just say something.

721
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: It sounds to drip it in frosting, but but like

722
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: and knowing that I'm now sweating because the world's gonna

723
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: say no. But when do you think, like and they're

724
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: all gonna think he doesn't like love me and I'm

725
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna feel like a loser, And when do you think

726
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: he's like, we'll talk about it, Like he must have

727
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: said that five times. I was dying inside. The game

728
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: is moving too fast, like, so that's what I think

729
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Kim is going through, Like don't you fucking like, don't

730
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: go down whatever road you're going down right now, you know.

731
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: So that's what I think. I don't know if it

732
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: was necessarily um specific. I also I wrote notes here,

733
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think Kim did anything wrong. I felt like

734
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: it was disproportionate at that point, the way everyone was

735
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: coming in to her, it was crazy. Do you feel

736
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: like something else was shot didn't make it? I mean

737
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: they filmed so much not everything makes it obviously like

738
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: the lead up wasn't with the payoff, like it didn't

739
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: match up. That's what I thought when the four were

740
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: standing around her, And but I also thought her saying

741
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: everyone ganged up on her. They did, but like nothing

742
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: really happened. What happened, Nothing really happened. Kim came to

743
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: a party, was a little wasted that we didn't notice.

744
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: She didn't support Kyle in New York. Big deal. It

745
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like, and that's what I'm trying to say to you.

746
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: Back then, Nuance was so big. It wasn't like someone

747
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: through their leg on a dance floor, you know what

748
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Yes, that's yeah, and now that would be like, yeah,

749
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: small pennies, but um yeah, like my dad had written

750
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: the show, like there would have been a scene before something,

751
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: there would have been a smaller lead up and before

752
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the big exactly. So now we're in this freaking limo.

753
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Can you even? But there are these little nuances that

754
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: I noticed, like when Kim is saying to him can

755
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: be dramatic, and that I knew from my personal life,

756
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: like there's just always a thing and you know people

757
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: you that I always have some big dramatic thing going on,

758
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: and it's always where things are always happening to them,

759
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: and there's just always the thing and this person is

760
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: always pulling focus. That's just personal behind the scenes team.

761
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: So when Kyle's in the corner of the car, and

762
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: she looks over and she's like, what are you doing now?

763
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: As a reality person? You know where all the cameras

764
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: have gone. So she knows that there's like a scene

765
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: going on. The producers have said to her there's something

766
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: going on in the car. She's in there with the

767
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: maloof girl and who and the guy heard her one

768
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: time date. And so Kyle gets in the car and

769
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: when she's like what, she's basically being like what is that? Like,

770
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: what are you doing over here? Like meeting? Pulling a

771
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: scene to the side, and what are you talk She's like,

772
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: you can never compare Kyle to Kelly Ben Simone. But

773
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: when Kelly Ben someone stayed awake later at Scary Island

774
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: and kept coming down and everyone was like, go to sleep,

775
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: it was because she knew the people were talking about her,

776
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and if she goes to sleep, the scene is still

777
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: going on, so like, what the hell is going on?

778
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: So this is not to be compared. I'm just saying

779
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: Kyle got in that car. Matt talked to Kim per

780
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: Se to be like this scene, like what do you what?

781
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? Like what is this

782
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: over here that you're making a thing out of like

783
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: what right? That's that was? Like she didn't want whatever

784
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: drama kid was causing in the corner, like getting the

785
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: sympathy card from these guys, like that's what was going on.

786
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Everyone was mean to me. They picked on me, Like

787
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: that was that scene too? In my opinion, what do

788
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: you think? I mean, you don't think a producer was like,

789
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: we need to get Kyle in that car right now. Yes,

790
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: but when she got in, I know, Kyle, why is she?

791
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Like exactly what was happening?

792
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: And who was talking? And you know your kid and

793
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: they're doing something. You're putting out some little act and

794
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: it's an act and you're just like what do you

795
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What are you doing right now?

796
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: You know? And your kids are like trying to It

797
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: was like that. It was like that. So yeah, they

798
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: got her in there. But when she got into that's

799
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: what she saw. Um you know what, I love that

800
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: you have now mentioned Adrian the loof twice, but you

801
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: call her that maloof girl? What I forgot her name

802
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: for a minute, and and I had a couple of

803
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: things I wanted to say about her. Um, well, we

804
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: could take a side trip before we get into the

805
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: house and the mother and the yeah no, because I thought,

806
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, when I was watching back then, she seemed

807
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: like she had had a lot of work done to

808
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: me as a viewer and as I when I was

809
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: looking back now, I was like, she's really pretty, like

810
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: I thought Adrian Mouth was very pretty. She had a

811
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: sparkled her eyes. There was something that I liked about her,

812
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: and she had like a soft nature. And I'm finding

813
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: and watching shows back now, I'm having a I'm um,

814
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: there's a fondness for characters that I I didn't have

815
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: a five Alex McCord now, I respect in a different

816
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: way for being wise and you know, just sitting back

817
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: sometimes and being poised. And I had that same respect

818
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: for Adrian because two times I've watched her now like

819
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: genuinely not wanting to be dealing with this drama. Probably

820
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: not afraid, she just genuinely doesn't want to deal with it.

821
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was excited to watch this

822
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: show when it first came out because I knew Adrian Malouf.

823
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: We had lived in the same and Paul with lived

824
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: in the same apartment building. The Wilsher on Wilsher um

825
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: when I was in my early twenties and I was like,

826
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they're going to be on this show.

827
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: So I was excited to watch, and then I was like,

828
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: I am kind of bored by her, and now watching

829
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: her back last night, I was like, I want to

830
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: see more of her. I really like her. I did too.

831
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: And it's funny because she was Dave Porten always favorite

832
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: and that other crazy dinner party from hell because she

833
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: seemed like she had her wits about her. There's also,

834
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: after so many years of seeing this, there's something to

835
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: be said for someone who's not so thirsty for the

836
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: attention to be grabbing every moment in every scene, and

837
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: that was admirable. And she and her husband could not

838
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: stand each other. It was just very hated each other.

839
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, except people was trying to feed her.

840
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Was that being passed up aggressive THEO because she didn't

841
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: want to eat? Like? It felt fake. A lot of

842
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: these relationships and the dynamics between them, whilst being on

843
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: TV and wanting to be good characters seemed fake. I

844
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: don't know. I just kept going back to like, oh,

845
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: he hates her, and then I was like, Oh, he's

846
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: trying to make her late. I don't know. I'm a Jew.

847
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: We like to feed people. So she was more turned off. Yes, yeah,

848
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: you're right, she was not. She thought he was a

849
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: big baby, like when he was winding. In another episode,

850
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: he was winding his daughter had punched him in the

851
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: face by accident or her son. Some baby punched him

852
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: in the face and like broke his nose or hurt him.

853
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: And she she was like crimere River, She's not. She

854
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: just is not into him. So back when I lived

855
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: in the apartment building, um no one knows the story,

856
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't think, but um Adrian Malouf's dog. She had

857
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: like a teacup poodle and we had an elevator. And

858
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: my housekeeper who's still with me, Isabelle, who's been with

859
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: me since nine years old and worked from my mom

860
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: since I was thirteen. She's like a grandma to my

861
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: kids and everything. So we had a very close relationship.

862
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: And it was Christmas time and she went down to

863
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: storage to get some ornaments and she came up and

864
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: she goes bad news, Mommy. She called me mommy, and

865
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: I was like, isabel what's wrong, and she's like a

866
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: dog attacked me in the elevator, and her ankle was

867
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: getting too severed, a nerve. She still has problems with

868
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: it to this day. But apparently the elevator stopped on

869
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: their floor or stopped at the bottom, and she didn't

870
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: have the dog on a leash. The dog ran in

871
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: and attacked Isabel and Adrian, who I'm friendly with now,

872
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: who was so lovely. I don't think she even remembers

873
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: this happened way by then. Um, she was like, I'm

874
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: so sorry, can I get you help? I have to

875
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: get to an appointment. So she got the valet to

876
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: come in and attend to Isabel, and then this whole

877
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: thing went on. I had to take Isabel the hospital

878
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: and then it was this whole thing. But she wanted

879
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Paul to see Isabel, and I was like, isn't it

880
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: a plastic surgeon And she was like, well, my husband

881
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: is a doctor. He can look at your ankle. So yeah,

882
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: that's how I remember them. There was a crazy story.

883
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: That's a crazy story. And also though which this is

884
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: a dynamic, she's clearly the moneyed spouse at that time.

885
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Now he's got his own show and he's got his

886
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: own identity, but at that time, yes, he's a plastic surgery.

887
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: He's making money in Beverly Hills. No one's crying for him.

888
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: But she's the maloof and that sticks a good ankle.

889
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: But maybe he does a good face. I don't know exactly,

890
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: but he she was the moneyed spouse at that time,

891
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: or you know, and that can be emasculating for both parties. Absolutely,

892
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to be your You were the spelling,

893
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: we are the actress. We all know, you know, we

894
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: all we know about this. So think about that emasculation

895
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: level and over compensation, over compensation about it and why? Yeah, like,

896
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: what can I add to this? I can at least

897
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: get her something while she's starting on the show and

898
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: running around and doing all this. I can at least

899
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: get her some food. So that was admirable, got it? Oh?

900
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: I just because I wrote in a watch your step?

901
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: That was what Kim said to Kyle, watch you watch

902
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: your step? Watch something Kyle said, you watch your step? Okay,

903
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: you watch your step? Right? And there was I wrote

904
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: down in capital letters. I take copious notes. I wrote

905
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: down gas lighting because it felt like I wrote down

906
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: child didn't do anything like either I meant that she

907
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong or she didn't do anything to

908
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: help Kim, but I wrote Kim was playing the martyr role.

909
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: It was this combination of Kim being the martyr, and

910
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, I thought Kyle didn't do anything him wrong.

911
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what I thought. I thought him was

912
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of a martyr. I was like, it

913
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't entirely anyone's fault. That that's my my point.

914
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: Like Kim was a baby, But I didn't think that

915
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: it was all one way. It just seemed like there

916
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: was other stuff we weren't getting in the in between.

917
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: And then the limo fly popped off. Well, definitely, it

918
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: all started with Taylor. I mean, let's let's be honest.

919
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: Taylor was like, oh this first of all, when Russell

920
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: said it's her thirtieth birthday, I was like thirty, and

921
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: I had him almost believed it. Yeah, I did, and

922
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: felt bad about myself for a second because we're all human.

923
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: But I was like, shoot, she's only thirty in this

924
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: and then there and I was like okay, okay, but

925
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: the party was just okay. So that's a lot of pressure.

926
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: So Taylor's like, well, how can I kick it up

927
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: and notch? Well, this is my go to storyline. So

928
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: I got to jump in and attack Kim. I mean

929
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: she as hacker, but she went back in and brought

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: it up. I wouldn't be doing that on my birthday party.

931
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I just wanna have a good time.

932
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to rehash old stuff with somebody. But

933
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: well you wouldn't. Also, you wouldn't be rude to a guest,

934
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: which is where reality TV becomes non reality TV, because

935
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of producers, a bunch of cameras.

936
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: You'll if you're good at your job, you know, if

937
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: nothing's happening, you're feeling self conscious and aware of the surroundings.

938
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: And unlike nine o two on Oh, there's no right writing,

939
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: so it's something has to happen in a scene. And

940
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: so Taylor is a better housewife. Then we gave her

941
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: credit for probably because she seemed to be lighting a

942
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: flame and that her on birthday. But in real life,

943
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: you wouldn't at your birthday party, or if you're a

944
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: host on your own show, someone comes in, you're not

945
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna attack somebody at your party. It happened at the

946
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: Jersey Baptism. Joe Gorga attacks Teresa verbally and then attacks

947
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: her husband physically, her kids baptism. So that's where it happened, right, actresses,

948
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: You have actresses and you have reality television at a

949
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: birthday party, right, So she was doing her job. Okay, Yeah,

950
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: So she was doing her job and Kim, you know,

951
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: does a little bit of this victim thing, which she

952
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: always does, which she always does, and then it comes

953
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: out Kyle's pushed. What pushes her? She said. She says

954
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: something to Kaim like, don't do this, don't do this,

955
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: something about oh. She says, mom died worrying about you,

956
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: which tracks by the way, I believe it, like not,

957
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe it, and Kyle really was

958
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: close to her mom. I was friend to Kyle when

959
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: Kyle lived with Fara in Big Cathy's apartment on South Swall,

960
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: South Wall, so we I used to go in my

961
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Ford probe after working as Scala over to Kyle's upstairs

962
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: hang out with Kathy, smoking cigarettes, showing us the jewelry

963
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: in our mannai'se jar. Kyle had the big giant Mercedes

964
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: and the big and the Chanelle Burt bag and went

965
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: to Lascala every day for the chop cell with with

966
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: Kathy and we used to hang out and go to

967
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: the Gate that club, the gate Gate and Bar One

968
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: and that's when she met Mauricio and she always liked

969
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: to have fun Kyle, So that was my error. And

970
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: Kim splits back then. No, I never saw them back then.

971
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: It's funny you said that. Funny you said that, but

972
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think Faye was in the mix

973
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: then and they still buddy. She grew up knowing Michael Jackson.

974
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: She was best friends of Moon Zappa, Like you know,

975
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: I was dating down by being friends with me. You know,

976
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: she was. She knew everybody and was everybody, and um,

977
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: I you know that it's a thing friending down. I've

978
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: never heard. I just made it up. Yeah she was,

979
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: she was friending down. Yeah. But there was stuff with

980
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: Kim back then too, like it was always. She had

981
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: had a tragedy. She had the bad divorce with Greg

982
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Davis that went on millions of dollars and years trying

983
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: to get her kids. Yeah, and then there was another

984
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: the mom Auntie the father saw a show. Who I mean,

985
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: she's had a rough life and she was a child

986
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: star who peeked and then couldn't be self sufficient. So

987
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: she always was, you know, had some sadness and it

988
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: was something that weighed down the family. So now she's

989
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: saying mom died worrying about you, So Kim is somebody

990
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: to worry about. You know, that was something that that happened,

991
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: and that's a big thing to throw at somebody. Though.

992
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: Good for you. You're right, Tori Spelling. That's ah, you're right,

993
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: because you know what. It took me to a place

994
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: where I was like, God, if someone has ever said,

995
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, your dad died worried about you, or what

996
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: would happen to you? Like not that I was in

997
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: Kim same place, but like just worried about my life. Ah, God,

998
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: that would be I wouldn't went to the bar and

999
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: just started chugging at that point, because that's major national TV.

1000
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: That's huge sore because you want to say that you

1001
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about that moment, right, you're in that

1002
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: moment still, and I'm like, on the whole, you're right,

1003
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: like I am just going moving forward in the seat.

1004
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: You can't that's something back you can't take back. And

1005
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: if you really look at that one line, and I'm

1006
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: just realizing this too, as we're talking because at the

1007
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: time I was like watching it last night, I was like, oh,

1008
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm all pro Kyle, and I adore Kyle in real life,

1009
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: so I'm like, but that whole scene that happens in

1010
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: the limo, it's all justified. Like after saying something like

1011
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: that mom died worrying about you, Well, that's why. And

1012
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: people always say, like they say that I flashed the Housewives.

1013
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: What I say stuff Megan Marco. I will talk about

1014
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: the decisions that she's made. The only thing I've ever

1015
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: really said it's a character assassination. Was one cast member

1016
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: that I won't say again on Housewives. But I'm not like,

1017
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you're ugly, like this person looks like like I don't

1018
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: go for the juggular. I may say something that's snarky

1019
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: or me, but I don't. They went, that's going to

1020
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: the mattresses, that's going below the belt. You're right. And

1021
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: it's funny because I was watching This is Us with Broom.

1022
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: We haven't finished yet, and um, Justin Hartley's character said

1023
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: to the other actor he plays Randall said to him, No,

1024
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: that wasn't the worst day in my life when dad

1025
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: That the worst day when of my life was when

1026
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: they brought you home from the hospital. He was the

1027
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: kid dropped at the fire station and and they said

1028
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: that he brought you home from the hospital, which I

1029
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: thought to myself, you can't come. That's a that's a

1030
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna right. You're right, she said to Kim. And

1031
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't a ten yet, it wasn't you're right.

1032
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: It didn't warrant that comment. Kim hadn't said anything to

1033
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: warrant Mom died worrying about you. That's a comment, right,

1034
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: you could have said, Mom used to worry about you.

1035
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: That was always like you could choose your words. Died

1036
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: worrying about you? It was, it was, And the award

1037
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: goes she respelling. She must have known that that would

1038
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: just send on a spiral. It would have sent anyone

1039
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: on a spiral. Wow, you're so okay. So and that's

1040
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: what happens in life. And I try to tell my

1041
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: daughter this where I say to her keep it at

1042
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: fifty five. You could be right and say something wrong

1043
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: and you become wrong. Yeah, and then that's all people

1044
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: focus on, is that one thing that you're like, why

1045
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: did I phrase it that way? Way? I could have

1046
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: said it different. I could have not said that one thing,

1047
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: because then it negates the whole thing when you say

1048
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: that one thing. But then what did Kim say, because

1049
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: then Kyle went back in about you're an alcoholic. What

1050
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: did Kim then say, I don't remember producers? What what

1051
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: was what made her crawl across the car? So Kyle saying,

1052
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: after everything that I've done for you, everything I've done

1053
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: for you, I'm always there for you. And then Kim

1054
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: goes everything you've done for me, and Kyle says, yeah, yeah,

1055
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: everything I've done for you. And then she says, you

1056
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: stole my house exactly. I knew it, okay, and that

1057
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: was that Okay. Wait, Kim says, you sold much as

1058
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: I knew. Something happened that Kyle flew across the limo.

1059
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: So because it was a moment there was like the

1060
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: moment wasn't even mom died caring about you. It was

1061
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: like Kim was upset. But the moment that the thing popped,

1062
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the champagne and the limo pop was Kim said, you

1063
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: stole my house, And you're right. There's something with a

1064
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: house in Palm Springs. There's something with the payment and

1065
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: the payment or the mom's house. There's a drama with

1066
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: the Kathy says. She said, and I remember this, they

1067
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: were paying for or bought a house. It was like

1068
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: almost two one million dollars or something because it was

1069
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Maurice too, and he wasn't making it like he is

1070
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: now then and she went crazy being like we've been

1071
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: paying for you and like a second wife, and Maurice

1072
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: is taking care of you. And that's when the ship

1073
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: went sideways and Kyle crawled across the car. Again, you're

1074
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: on reality TV. You don't know what the audience is

1075
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: going to think of sister saying you stole my house,

1076
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: Like you don't know what you know? Forget the truth,

1077
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: even though the truth is that she probably she didn't

1078
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: steal her house, but whatever, you know, and that game

1079
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: is moving fast. If you ever get on the show's

1080
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: tory spelling, you need to know that the game has

1081
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: moved being fast and America has is thinking right now

1082
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: when it gets edited, you stole her house. So Kyle's like,

1083
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic and flies across the limo. Yeah, discrediting

1084
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: anything she said, But why didn't she want her to

1085
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: say that or she didn't care it was just wrong? Well,

1086
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big accusation for someone to say you

1087
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: stole my house. I mean, I don't remember what was

1088
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: ever resolved, but there's a big ocean between you stole

1089
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: my house and Kyle is saying that Maurice has been

1090
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: paying for Kyle for Kim to live for years. So

1091
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that came as his second wife,

1092
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: right that sounds different than stealing. I believe because things

1093
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: happen with wills and family dynamsts, that Kim is Kim

1094
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: and doesn't have the same income and had a house

1095
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: probably that she probably stayed in or was kind of

1096
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: hers when her mother was alive, and her mother passed

1097
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: away an hour in a state, which my best friend

1098
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: is going through this right now, and I don't know

1099
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: this for I believe, being a businesswoman, that there was

1100
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: an estate and it's not a charity or a gift,

1101
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: or if that's been your house that you've stayed in,

1102
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: or maybe you were left part of it, but maybe

1103
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: you can't pay for your part. And I don't think

1104
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: none of this is something that I know for a fact.

1105
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm just speculating. Heart. I feel like I've heard other

1106
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: combos and it's part Okay, so you all in part

1107
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: of a house has been left or you stayed there,

1108
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: but now you have multiple siblings that the house has

1109
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: maybe even left to or left to another sibling, and

1110
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: so now this is no longer your residence anymore because

1111
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: it's part of a a state. So maybe they chose

1112
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: to sell it. Maybe they're not. It's not a charity,

1113
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: that's what I think. But someone passes away, things change

1114
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: in family dynamics. That's what I'm gonna garner based on

1115
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: knowing what I saw and what I know on my own.

1116
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: What do you think? Probably right? I feel like there's

1117
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: something that house has been mentioned that wasn't the last

1118
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: time this house was mentioned. In modern day, it's still mentioned.

1119
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: It's come up, or maybe it's come up and press.

1120
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could just be that interesting. Yeah,

1121
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: I would probably say that's a big line. You stole

1122
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: my house, and probably it was you can't steal. Guess

1123
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: what you can't steal someone's house? You can't. I can't.

1124
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to go steal your the house, your throught

1125
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: you grew up in. Can I'm gonna listen to me too,

1126
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: because I have the gift room and I gave out

1127
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: three hundred gifts, but I would like whatever that gift

1128
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: room was, like, that's what I done. You and my

1129
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: mom should wrap gifts together. I have a gift room.

1130
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm not I want to read a trapping, but you

1131
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: don't understand. I have three hundred gifts, I have cubbies,

1132
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: I have a wrapping station. I did not around with

1133
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: my gifts. So I am for I am a mini

1134
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: candy smelling like I definitely am. I have a I

1135
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: have I've been prepped since October we started the gifts.

1136
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't play with the gifts. Okay, shouldn't steal that

1137
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: house though together. If they had stolen a house, they'd

1138
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: also have gone to jail taking turns because they didn't

1139
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: steal it. So what she means probably is that she

1140
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: financially could not do her part. They had to buy

1141
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: her out or whatever they did. But in her heart,

1142
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: she feels like that stealing because they should have just

1143
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: given it to her. She feels like back to her

1144
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: to to Kyle saying I've always taken care of you.

1145
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Mauricio was taking care of you. So she feels on

1146
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: some level because she worked as a kid, which isn't

1147
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Kyle's problem that they should just give her stuff maybe,

1148
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: and also if he's been generous with her, but that

1149
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: might be like helping her out a little. That's not

1150
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: buying her a house, and he's not. He's not supposed

1151
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: to buy her a house. She's living her own life.

1152
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: She paid, he paid her rent, he paid for everything

1153
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: for her, right. I don't know. I thought that's what

1154
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: Kyle was saying. Okay, so he'd no. I think that's

1155
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: what it was. But I also don't think that that

1156
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: equals buying some of the house, and nor should it.

1157
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: But I think that's what it's like. You made me

1158
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: move out of my house for all I've done for you,

1159
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: and we're sisters and whatever, and I'm sure, like anything,

1160
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: there are three sides to every store and you can

1161
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: split the difference. But you know, I've given you guys

1162
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: straight tea and I would and when I saw that

1163
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: we were this was the producer's idea to do this one,

1164
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, ship, because I know Kyle for

1165
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: years and you know she's a sensible person, and that's

1166
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: what I honestly, that's what I think. We're very close

1167
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: to the truth on this today. I really did. Um,

1168
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: But I will say, Lisa, did you know the Bobby

1169
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: Fisher thing and being the person that sort of seemed

1170
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: like the matriarch of that show, the Carol Manze of

1171
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: that show. I did see with her. With Taylor, she

1172
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: had that vibe like that she's a senior partner, and

1173
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like Taylor this was the first season,

1174
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: wasn't it? Taylor was an original house Okay? Because it

1175
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: felt it felt like Taylor was Sonya season two coming

1176
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: in and Lisa was telling her how it's gonna go.

1177
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: It felt a little like she and your partner, didn't

1178
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: She seem like, but do you know what I'm saying? Yeah,

1179
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: But she was coming in and she was like, here's

1180
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: how it works around here, and you're not gonna and

1181
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Taylor was like okay. She said okay to her, she

1182
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're getting a little scolded right now.

1183
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: I thought I thought that was that was one for

1184
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: the ages, And then, um, I actually care about this

1185
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: as a concept because I talked about it and watch

1186
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: it happens live that Camille didn't go to that big

1187
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: party and Modern Day Housewives they don't let you miss anything,

1188
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's a mistake. I think they don't

1189
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: let you miss anything of less it's like COVID. I

1190
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: think missing things are good because it adds to the

1191
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: dynamic of what's going on in Scary Island. I didn't

1192
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: go to the Creepy Beach photo shoot, and I think

1193
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: that was good. At certain times, someone misses a reunion,

1194
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: Like I've seen that real life people miss things, and

1195
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: in reality TV it's become that they make you go

1196
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: to everything because they worry. And I think that back

1197
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: in that era of the Housewives, people would miss things

1198
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: because it was just real. I'm getting divorced, I'm missing

1199
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: this thing. But now that we've talked about the Camille

1200
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: back story a little bit and what we speculate could be, like,

1201
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: do you really think she would have missed it? Like

1202
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: was that real? Or was there no way to drive

1203
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: that narrative if they didn't have her alone because there

1204
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 1: were bigger things happening at a party. Right, you're saying,

1205
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: again a good one, Tory. You're saying, maybe something very

1206
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: serious what was going down for her to miss that party,

1207
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: or maybe it came out in the media that he

1208
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend. I just have a hard time believing

1209
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: that she didn't know he had any kind of girlfriend.

1210
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know anything, and I don't know her,

1211
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: and God bless and praise be. But may maybe sometimes

1212
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: it's not. Maybe she thought it wasn't a good look

1213
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: to be at the party when she I don't know

1214
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: what had just dropped. I don't know. I can't. I

1215
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: can't speak on it that you know, you know how

1216
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, now you can't go out right now,

1217
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: you're the scored woman. You gotta stay home, Laylo. I'm

1218
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna get a follow up. I'm gonna find out from

1219
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: the producers and see if any of what we're saying

1220
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: in the press. Yes, oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah,

1221
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back and you don't have that opportunity.

1222
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: But now you can go back and be like, I'm

1223
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna go back and do a do do a what

1224
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: what an autopsy? On episode? Okay, Nancy Drew, I believe

1225
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: in you. You're mate. I'm so I feel like we're

1226
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna be friends now. Like I love you. I always

1227
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: thought i'd love you, and this solidifies that. I love you.

1228
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tori Spelling, Thank you