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Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, let's kiss you.

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Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media and iHeart Podcasts. And today we

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Speaker 1: are recapping season one episode seven, Kiss and Tell, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a major part of my in

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Speaker 1: traffid crew, Suzanne French. Welcome Susanne. Nice to see you again.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Good to see you too.

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Speaker 1: And big things coming. We just have some wonderful meetings

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Speaker 1: They're gonnlike hotcakes. Let's synopsize and get into this pre

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Speaker 1: terrific episode.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Seasan, Okay, yeah, this is a this is

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Speaker 4: a fun one. So this is season one episode seven,

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Speaker 4: Kiss and Tell. It aired on November sixteenth, two thousand.

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Speaker 4: Dean kisses Rory for the first time, and though she's

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Speaker 4: hesitant to tell her mom, Lane's mother reveals it when

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Speaker 4: Laurel Life visits the furniture shop. Meanwhile, the townsfolk pester

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Speaker 4: Luke for not decorating his coffee shop for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: And director Rodman Flender and written by Jenji Cohan. So

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Speaker 1: this is a non Palladino written episode, non directed Palladino episode,

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Speaker 1: very very interesting. We are waiting for Michael Winters, who

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Speaker 1: played Taylor Docie. He will be joining us, hopefully, hopefully. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but Suzanne and I have very tight schedules and we

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Speaker 1: got to go, go, go, go, go go go. So

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Speaker 1: here we go. All right. We start out at Luke's

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Speaker 1: diner and Taylor is really stressed that Luke won't decorate

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Speaker 1: his diner for the holidays. Uh, Suzanne, what did you

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Speaker 1: think of this? I I I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: terrific opening, and really it's the spirit of the show.

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the first time that we see Taylor,

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Speaker 4: and so it's just yet another uh, you know, one

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Speaker 4: we've we've met Kirk, We've met miss Patty. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's just like a new layer, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: So I thought it was a great scene.

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Speaker 4: It was funny, you know, the whole underwear thing, and

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Speaker 4: and Luke finishes the scene with don't sit on any

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Speaker 4: cold benches. Like I just it was great. It was

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the right amount. It wasn't Luke

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Speaker 1: being too angry at Taylor, just a bit annoyed. And

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, that was the that's the right

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Speaker 1: temperature for this show. If it gets anymore, I kind

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Speaker 1: of like that's a little much there, but really funny.

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Speaker 1: And Lauren was funny with waiving the dollar you who,

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Speaker 1: the cuts back. It was just it was just kind

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Speaker 1: of a perfect opening scene. Yeah. I think the funny

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Speaker 1: of small town show, is it, right, Just filled with

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Speaker 1: quippi great lines. All right, now, why don't you take

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Speaker 1: this one? This is the kiss, So go ahead and

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Speaker 1: take this one.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So then it goes to the market, and I think,

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Speaker 1: Years old, she had plenty of wind, let me tell you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's in the waiting room, so he's gonna come in.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Rory running across the town square where

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Speaker 4: And yeah, that's just an iconic scene that sets the

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Speaker 3: Kiss.

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Speaker 1: You know, these first couple of episodes, these first seven

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Speaker 1: She she runs into Lane's come in.

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Speaker 4: She heads straight for her best friends, Like that's what

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Speaker 4: She doesn't run to her mother. She runs to her

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Speaker 1: Is that? Michael Winners?

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Speaker 2: That is hello, sir, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, You're looking fantastic. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. Yeah, you're in good spirits.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the episode so far? Michael?

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Speaker 2: In my memory of the very first day that I worked,

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's lots of stuff that went away,

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Speaker 2: It was very short, very small, which was great. It

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Speaker 4: I feel like Taylor is one of those characters that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of great, really fantastic. All right, So now

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Speaker 1: And now Rory's a little word to tell Lorelai obviously,

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Speaker 1: miss Kim and Laurel. I mean, just just take us

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so Lurlay bought a chair six weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: And then missus Kim reveals that Laura that Rory was

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember it seems like Rory is smart enough

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, yes, I do remember that now, Yes, but you.

435
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: Know, I know that situation from when I was like sixteen.

436
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: It happening among my friends, you know, a pregnancy at

437
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: that time with kids who were a couple at school.

438
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: Suddenly she's pregnant. Wow, man, the world turns upside down

439
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: all over town. My time is a little bit bigger

440
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: than the stars hollow, but not a whole lot, right,

441
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: And that was a thing.

442
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just think of everything she went through

443
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: raising a child, having a one year old at seventeen,

444
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: a two year old at eighteen, going through the Terrible twos,

445
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: and you're seventeen years old, you know, just remarkable, just remarkable,

446
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: stress and confusion and you know, probably a lot of joy.

447
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: It seems like, you know.

448
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: Well sure, but I think working through all that must

449
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: have been hard. Yeah, mentioned being alone with a two

450
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: year old, three year old until she gets old enough

451
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: to sort of be on her own. Rory. Now, this

452
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: in a way happened to me because my mother didn't work.

453
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: She had worked, and then I was born and she

454
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: worked a little further. Then she got pregnant with my brother,

455
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: and she stopped working and just came home and was

456
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: a mom. And boy, the first time that I was

457
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: able to get to school myself, you know, that I

458
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: could be left alone at home and would go to school.

459
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: She went back to college and got a teaching degree

460
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: and started her third career. But that time before that,

461
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: I think back now on it, there was my mother

462
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: working and trying to take care of a kid, and

463
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: then only staying home and just taking care of the

464
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: two kids. Well my dad is working was familiar to

465
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: me in a way. That idea of taking care of

466
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: a kid by yourself. Yikes.

467
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what parents do single parents do to

468
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: seconds for their children. It's quite amazing the consistency and

469
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: the strength. I watched my mother do it too. I

470
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: mean she'd get up every morning and just you know,

471
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: go to work. She'd walk to the train, rain, shine, snow,

472
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: she'd walk to the train, take it into Philadelphia, work

473
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: all day, come back, make dinner. You know, just amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing.

474
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: I must say I wish she were around still because

475
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: now I realized what she went through doing that, and

476
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: she did the same thing. She'd drive into Cleveland to

477
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: go to college, come back and cook for us.

478
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 5: Right, you know, Right, that's the amazing huge And that

479
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 5: was when my dad was there, you know, but he

480
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 5: didn't make dinner or anything like that.

481
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: But right, yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big

482
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: You've seen them sort of after that period, you know,

483
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: it must have been great for LAURALI then when Rory

484
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: gets old enough that they can really sort of talk

485
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: like for this.

486
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: So now we are getting ready Rory's wish for a

487
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: relaxed night right of a movie watching and candy eating,

488
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: uh into a nerve r It kind of transforms into

489
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: this sort of stressful evening. It's a little nerve racking, uh,

490
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: which I think is very easy to relate to. There's

491
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: there's there's a parent, there's boundaries that aren't being respected.

492
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: But it's okay because it's these two, right, They're so

493
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: close that it's it's just sort of okay. And Rory's

494
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: not going to flip out too bad because it's her,

495
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, her mom or best friend wants to you know,

496
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: she cares. She's there, she's involved, she's betting Dean. He's

497
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: a Chicago kid who wears a leather jacket. You know,

498
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, he could be a little shady. She's got

499
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: to check him out. I mean, it's okay to be

500
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: over protective, I guess at times.

501
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Right, well, at least it's happening while she's there, right,

502
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, he thinks is the split, is that something

503
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: happens to Roy that she doesn't share with Laurli. But

504
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: here's this moment first date sort of quote quote but

505
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: she's there at least to see what's happening. They're all together,

506
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: which is a little different. It's still stressful, God knows.

507
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, put yourself in that position as

508
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: a father of a sixteen year old girl, whether you're

509
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: a single father or not, and yeah, you're gonna You're

510
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna this is one of the times where Loreal is

511
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: required to be a dad too, right and sort of

512
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: check out this boy. This actually you know, very six

513
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: foot four boy from Chicago, like messing with my daughter.

514
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: The dad's gonna be like, he's gonna be there, He's

515
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna check him out before they even have a chance

516
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: to go out on her first date, right, or at

517
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: least before the first day. Come on into the study.

518
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk, Dean, you and then then you give them

519
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the facts of life, says, Then your nice kid, where

520
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: are you from? And then let me tell you something.

521
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: You lay a hand on her. You're gonna have to

522
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: deal with me in my ex collection, you know this

523
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So they get to talk. Wonderful, but

524
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: but you know, to replace a Christopher who isn't there,

525
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: or a dad who wasn't there, you've got Babette and

526
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Maury and they're they're showering the kid with love and

527
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: he's not, you know, apparently not used to that to

528
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: this extent. Right, So it's a half hour they kind

529
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: of capture him, and Mary's in there playing some jazz.

530
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: He goes, you want to hear another song? Kid, you

531
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: know this kind of thing, and Bebet's just looking up

532
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: at him, smiling like, you know, getting all the information

533
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: she can. And that poor kid is rescued by Laurel

534
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I sent inside and just wonderful. Sally struthers scenes Michael

535
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: take us through this.

536
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: A little bit, well, Sally, you mean Sally Struthers.

537
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, the miracle that is Sally Struthers just is her,

538
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: you know, just lets you into who this woman is

539
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: going to be for the for the next seven years.

540
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: She's fantastic. It was one of my favorite things about

541
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: working on the show was getting to know she and Liz.

542
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: And me too.

543
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: It was just so much fun with them.

544
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and together when they were working together and you

545
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: got a chance to work with them together, it was

546
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: it was one of the great days.

547
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And one time, even the extracurricular Sally meantime was

548
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: doing that show about oh, the country singer I can't remember, Oh,

549
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, but she was doing the

550
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: show one Woman Show, No, it's two people, two women

551
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: in La and Liz and I went to see her

552
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: to see the show Patsy Cline. She was doing a

553
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 2: play about Patsy Cline and Sally was fantastic. And but

554
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: it's like we were already bonding. So the three of

555
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: us or the two of us went to see the

556
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: third one watch it. Yeah, great person. Sally Struthers really.

557
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: Just the top, top human. I mean just just just

558
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: support and love pouring out of her humor. I mean,

559
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: she's she's a healing presence. Whenever you're around her, you

560
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: just feel better, you laugh. I mean she could, oh man,

561
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: she could. She's amazing. Just miss her dealer, mis her dealer.

562
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: And yeah she was great.

563
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: They were both hoot and holl Or, weren't they.

564
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why, but for some reason I

565
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: got pretty much closest to the two of them, you know,

566
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: in a working situation, right right right, And that's I mean,

567
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: that is such a classic Sally Struther's moment. You know,

568
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: she and Ted on the lawn talking about it. Just

569
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: great and just long enough so you get the idea

570
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: and you got her, you know, yeah and Ted pretty

571
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: much right. The story moves on.

572
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Stay cool, kid, It's like this town is watching you,

573
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: but it isn't scary, It isn't creepy.

574
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: Everything's there.

575
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we just love our girl Rory because

576
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: we all helped raise or she's our daughter too, right right,

577
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of stars hunt right there, right

578
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: there shows you the power and the beauty of a

579
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: small community. Here we go with movie night ses, anyone

580
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: to take us through it?

581
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah? So this you know, this for a first date.

582
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: First dates are always awkward, but This was just like

583
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: next level awkward. Laurala is giving Dean a tour of

584
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: the house and this is a living room where we

585
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: do our living and then they're checking out Rory's room,

586
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: and you know, Rory's a little like she's kind of

587
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: retreating into herself. She's very nervous about him like looking

588
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: through her stuff. And we have the scene we talked

589
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: about where Suki brings the dessert because now she wants

590
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: to see Dean, and then Joe the pizza guy shows

591
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 4: up and there's all these people crammed into the little

592
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: entrance way.

593
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Susan, did you find that a little a little odd

594
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: that he went in so deep into her room?

595
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: Not necessarily because she's no she said he could go in.

596
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: And I mean it was interesting that he's like picking

597
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: things up and looking at them, But I didn't think

598
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 4: it was super weird. I mean, you know, just beyond

599
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: the awkwardness in the first place, right, But yeah, Dean

600
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: was Dean was good. He was there was like almost

601
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: a little I don't want to say arrogance, but maybe

602
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: like a little cockiness that I picked up from Dean.

603
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: But but he was Yeah, it was the leather jacket,

604
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: but you know, he was he was polite and then

605
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: he especially when he and Laurel I had the conversation

606
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: when Rory was out of the room. That was when

607
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: I was really picking up on kind of when he's like,

608
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 4: is it my turn to speak a little bit of cockiness?

609
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: There were trying to find his place, you know what,

610
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: it's just not a situation, right, we're sort of on

611
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 2: maybe kind of our first date, but your mother's here.

612
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: But he handles it so well, it seems yeah, yeah,

613
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: in real life that that would have made me nervous,

614
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: you know.

615
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: Right, because he looks a polished he's like experienced in

616
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: this situation, he's a little young to be experienced meeting

617
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, the mothers ofs.

618
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: And and he really pays attention to her, I mean

619
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: she he really talks to her, yes, instead of just

620
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: finding some smooth way to get through that so we

621
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: can get back to Rory. You know, he makes some

622
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: pretty mature choices, it seems to me early on in

623
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: the situation where he knows Mom is probably a.

624
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: Little right dubious, and he says and he retorts back

625
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: to her, now it's my turn to talk, or now

626
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: it's my turn to speak and then he kind of

627
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: lays out what he lays out there, which is which

628
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: which bespeaks of maturity beyond his years. Yeah. Yeah, it's

629
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: an interesting scene.

630
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: It really is. It's interesting she they work at so

631
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: that Laura, le and Dine are alone twice in the episode,

632
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: and something really interesting happens both times. The first time,

633
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: Laura l I just on the spurm of the moment,

634
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: invites him. You know, it's like boom when she came

635
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: because Rory's not there. You know what would have happen

636
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: if Ory had been there, maybe she wouldn't have got

637
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: away with that. And then again they have a real

638
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: conversation brief though it may be in the during movie night.

639
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great advancement in terms of,

640
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, where that relationship is going to go on

641
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: an appointment.

642
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: Rory just stating that Dean is she finds him very

643
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: attractive and he's perfect and he smells amazing, and Rory's

644
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: and you know, she's it's her first kind of you know,

645
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: big love. I guess right.

646
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Now as I remember this talk about what a catch

647
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: he is, you know, when she's talk in the lane

648
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: about everybody, Oh, you got the hot guy in town

649
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: and the new gun. You know how that makes the

650
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: adventure even more She's really something, so Rory doesn't want

651
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: to do anything to screw that up, and doesn't want

652
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: to do anything to screw that up before anything is

653
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: really even started, right.

654
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she's almost afraid to engage because she doesn't

655
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: want to mess it up.

656
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah right.

657
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But I mean Dean's honest with her. You know. It's

658
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: like he tells her that. I mean, she tells him

659
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: that the whole town's watching your kid, you know, so careful,

660
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: and then Dean says, you know, I really like your daughter.

661
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: He confesses this right up front. Yeah, and you know

662
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: he also goes on and this is another example of

663
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: his maturity. He makes a great point about Laurel. I

664
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: not liking him will translate into Rory not liking him.

665
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: So it's like, give me a chance. And maybe that's

666
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: the part where he's been through this before, so now

667
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: he knows what to say. Yeah, I don't want to

668
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: go through this again. I really like this girl, and

669
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: you just got to give me a chance. And I

670
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I know I come off like I'm this, you know,

671
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm a cocky sort of city kid, and I'm in

672
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: this small town and I have a little bit of

673
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: an edge to me, and I have my jacket and

674
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing, right, But it's like, hey, you know, lady,

675
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: you're feeling okay. You know your daughter's not going to

676
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: like me if you don't like me, So let's let's

677
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: let's work this out, right.

678
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he knows that Laura I can bring the

679
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: whole town down on him.

680
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he wants to make it work. Oh yeah,

681
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: she pushes one button. It's over for him, right. But really,

682
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, imagine being eighteen and this is kind of

683
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: your first gig, as it was for Jared, and he's,

684
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, here he is with you know this this

685
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: great actress and the two of these great actresses, and

686
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, standing his ground. You know, he's holding his

687
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: own in these situations. You know, it's exciting to see

688
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: go back and see in an eighteen year old Jared

689
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: Pedalchi and how talented he started out and just all

690
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: the great potential.

691
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: First thing he did, I.

692
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Don't know if it's the first, but I mean he

693
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: was just on a host to be legend. Being out

694
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: of high school and being in that situation. I mean

695
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Alexis had the same experience. She was in college. I

696
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: think she was a freshman in college, so she was

697
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: a little farther along. But he he came right out

698
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: of high school and there he is. What a career,

699
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: What a career?

700
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: All right.

701
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: Now we're we're sort of at the end of the

702
00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: night and they're sitting outside on the porch, Dean and Rory,

703
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: and there's that and he genuinely had a good time,

704
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: and he tells her that, you know, he genuinely had

705
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: a good time, so he doesn't appear to be turned

706
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: off or stressed and oh, your mother's a paint, no,

707
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: no of that stuff. Yeah, And I think he respects

708
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: Laura I and he likes her, and he likes obviously

709
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: likes Rory a great deal. So it's a good situation

710
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: for him. He feels comfortable because these are you know,

711
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: Laura I probably reminds him of where he comes from,

712
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: because she's tough as nails. Underneath it. It's like, don't

713
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: mess with her, and she she said it in the

714
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: sweetest way, but she's she's like Mills Laye in the

715
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: boxing referee. I'm firm but fair, all right. Just so

716
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: then they kiss again and that's really quite sweet, right, yeah, and.

717
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: A real advance. It seems like another stat for them.

718
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: M h m hmm.

719
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: It makes you look forward to next Okay, where's that

720
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: going to go? Next episode or whatever? Yeah? Right?

721
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: And what was it that Laura I said to Rory

722
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: about her conversation with Dean that made Rory suspect that

723
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: she was lying to her because she asked her right,

724
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: she asked, what did you guys talk about?

725
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: What did you tell him?

726
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: What did you tell him? What you talk about? Right?

727
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: And what did she tell him to talk about? Because

728
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: she didn't tell the truth. She didn't say I was

729
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: laying down the law. She didn't say that, you know, Dean,

730
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, wanted a level playing field to be judged fairly.

731
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: Right.

732
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: She didn't say this kid's wise beyond his years, she

733
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: finally says, She finally confesses that she wanted to know

734
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: about the kiss, you know, that's all. And she says

735
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: that to Rory upstairs. And it's kind of a perfect ending,

736
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: isn't it, Where it's like, finally, finally, finally Laura I

737
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: gets what she wants because you know, she said, and

738
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: I to Dean, I always get what I want, right,

739
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: I want to like you, and I always get what

740
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: I want. So that's kind of like an nice way

741
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: of being a badass. And Roy says down and tells

742
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: her all about the kiss with you know, real connection

743
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: to mom. And now now it's full on girlfriend time

744
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: and it's not mother daughter time.

745
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: It's right.

746
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Right now, Now it goes back into.

747
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: This anymore, it's right, yeah, yeah.

748
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: And what I what I think is really great about

749
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: the writing is they cut us off there. It's like,

750
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: you know when to cut into a scene, cut in

751
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: as late as possible, and get out of a scene

752
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: as early as possible. And that is a perfect example

753
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: of that. Get out of that scene because we already

754
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: we already know what she's going to say. You know,

755
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: it's joyful, We get the point.

756
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: It's it's just the sense of them together. It's not

757
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: what they're talking about. But it's like they've reached the

758
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: point of greeting a meeting, right, you know that right,

759
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: just sort of a lapse before that it wasn't the

760
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: kiss was not brought to mother, and that it is

761
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: and now that down now that can be friends about

762
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: it instead of mom and daughter, right.

763
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: And I noticed in the beginning of that scene where

764
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: it's just Laurel I laying on the bed and she's

765
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: laying there with their hand behind her head, and then

766
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: Rory comes in and lays down next to her and

767
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: puts her hand behind her head, like the two of

768
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 4: them were just laying there in exactly the same position.

769
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: So you really had that visual cue that, Okay, everything's

770
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: back in sync.

771
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: Now, right, wonderful storytelling visually dialogue Acinali. It's just wonderful, wonderful,

772
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: wonderful storytelling.

773
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: And again, although it's just that sixth episode, seventh episode,

774
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: it's still sort of early. When you think of the

775
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: whole stretch of the series, A lot is getting moving

776
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: in it. You know that are going to be long

777
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: lines in the stories.

778
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah, yeah, these narratives are being Yeah,

779
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: they're being constructed.

780
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: I can't imagine how people do that lay out, you know,

781
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: a whole season or something, let alone. How do we

782
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: break this up into hour loan things and still maintain

783
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: the forward motion of a whole bunch of stories?

784
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: You know what I think it is. I'm going to

785
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: take a shot at trying to explain this because I've

786
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: experienced this before as a writer. Okay, I'm not a

787
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: television writer. I've never had anything purchased or produced, but

788
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: I've written a bunch of screenplays for films, about fifteen

789
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: of them. And yeah, yeah, I mean that was in

790
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: the nineties, in the early two thousands. But you know,

791
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: I read all the books. I tried and failed, and

792
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, I went about it in all kinds of

793
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: different ways. But what the great writers tell you to

794
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: do is to have your idea and have a character,

795
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: because where does plot emanate from it? It emanates from character.

796
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: And if you have if you get a plot first

797
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: and then try to plut insert characters, it's very wooden

798
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: and very stiff and hollow. So great storytelling is great characters.

799
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: So what I did was is I thought of a character.

800
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: I had this great character, and I thought about it

801
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: for a while, and I put it on as an

802
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: index card, put it up on my wall, and then

803
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I did that with all that, and then I thought

804
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: about the story, and I thought about that character and

805
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: a story, A little bit of a past emerged and

806
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: a story. And I did that with a bunch of

807
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: other characters that popped up sort of organically from the

808
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: original thought of this character. And then it took about

809
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: a year for that wall to be filled up with character,

810
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: and then a story's started to form, and I thought

811
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: about the story more, and then the story was becoming

812
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: more and more and more specific and real, and and

813
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: then the characters actually came to life and started talking

814
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: to me. And I know, I sound it sounds crazy,

815
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: but to go about it in that way and not

816
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: write a first draft until the characters are screaming at you,

817
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: we're ready, write this down and let's go, because it

818
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: really just has to sort of, you know, it has

819
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: to sort of vomit out of you a first draft

820
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 1: and you got to get it all down on paper.

821
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: And I got a first draft down in like three days,

822
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: and I didn't sleep. I just wrote, wrote. I still

823
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: have that first draft. It's the best thing I've ever written.

824
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with it because it's so

825
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: precious to me, and I know I have to. You know,

826
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: what they say is, you know, cut out your favorite

827
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: parts of that. If it doesn't propelled the story forward,

828
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: it might be really good writing, but it doesn't have

829
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: anything to do with pushing the narrative forward. And it

830
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: actually works that way, So I think that's what Amy

831
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: and Dan might do is that they have these characters.

832
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: They have this ability to these characters really come alive

833
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: for them, and they follow them around from season to

834
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: see so per episode to episode because they're truly sensitive beings.

835
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: They're truly super intelligent, super well read, creative, free people,

836
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: and they have this ability to create character too, and

837
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: the characters are very real to them. These characters are

838
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: very real, and I think it might even be a

839
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: little easier after you see, Like imagine Amy and Dan

840
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: watching the pilot. They've never seen the characters come to

841
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: life before visually speaking. Now they get to see them,

842
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: so that's even more feedback and more information that they get.

843
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a little easier to write for these

844
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: characters now. Anyway, that's just one way from what I

845
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: learned about screenwriting from the great screenwriters to go try

846
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: to attempt to go about it because it has to

847
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: be real to you and they have to be alive,

848
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: and it all starts from one character, and I think

849
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: it started from Loralai. I think that's the one character

850
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: they created, and it's like, what if it's about this

851
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: girl who was pregnant, and then the rest just sort

852
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: of emanates from there, and then the whole plot just

853
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: pours out of Loralai from there and that that's the storytelling.

854
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: So anyway, I don't know that I'll ever work on

855
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: that screenplay again. It's a lot of work.

856
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: Now, have you taken it around? I mean, have you

857
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: tried to sell.

858
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: It on a first draft?

859
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: No?

860
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean it's first drafts, not ready

861
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: to be out in the marketplace.

862
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: But you don't feel compelled to take another crack out

863
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: of time.

864
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: I have thought about it, Yeah, yeah, I have thought

865
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Speaker 1: about it. That's finding the time to do it. You know.

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Speaker 1: It takes a lot out of you to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's well if you if all you do

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Speaker 2: is write and not never sleep, I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's one hundred percent focus. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't really be thinking about anything else or doing

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Speaker 1: anything else, and it's your button, a seat in a

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Speaker 1: room by yourself for yeah, weeks, weeks and months of end.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to being an actor. You you almost

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Speaker 2: always accept in rare exceptions, you have other people to

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Speaker 2: deal with, you know, and that had that gets you

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Speaker 2: get a lot of input from that, you know. But

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Speaker 2: the other people do, just by yourself in the middle

878
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Speaker 2: of all this. That's why I always writers just fascinate

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Speaker 2: me that they can go in a room, like you say,

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Speaker 2: lock the door and come up with something. You know,

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Speaker 2: we start way farther down the list, you know, where

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Speaker 2: there's something really to grab onto you. You're you're creating

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Speaker 2: around something that's already there, you know, right, just pulling

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Speaker 2: it out of the air.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. We as actors are interpretive.

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Speaker 1: We interpret right, we're interpretive artists. It's our and we

887
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Speaker 1: look for unique and original choices that no one's done before.

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Speaker 1: Or we're just you know, we're so interesting as people

889
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Speaker 1: to begin with that we just play ourselves and you

890
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Speaker 1: better be pretty damn interesting if you're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: So we got to learn to act anyway. Michael, it's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so great to see you and.

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Speaker 1: A pleasure to see you boy.

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Speaker 2: To go back and look at that, I hadn't looked

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Speaker 2: at those for years. I may have to go look

897
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Speaker 2: at the form because the next thing that happens is,

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Speaker 2: uh that that David Huddleston was in the in the

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Speaker 2: preview for the next episode, and I remember that was

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Speaker 2: the episode where we were out all night long in

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Speaker 2: the fake snow doing that thing. That had all great

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Speaker 2: stories about that one too. Yeah, tremendous you're thinking of me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just great to to dive back into

904
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Speaker 2: that after all this time. People still talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean people stop me on the street. A woman

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Speaker 2: faced me out of a restaurant day before. Yes, are

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Speaker 2: you Michael Winters said? Are you a Gilmore Girls fan? Yes?

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Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's your voice, you know, it's your look and

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Speaker 1: your voice.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think so. I was in a play here

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Speaker 2: once and that there were a bunch of kids who

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Speaker 2: were just out of high school who were in a chorus,

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Speaker 2: and if one guy came up and he said, I

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Speaker 2: thought I didn't even know who you were until I

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Speaker 2: heard your voice. I didn't even see you, and I

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Speaker 2: heard your voice and I knew who you were. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, look I have some I have some really good

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Speaker 1: news for everybody. Michael Winter It's going to be joining

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Speaker 1: us eighteen at the Warner Brothers Studios. I Am All

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Speaker 1: In Again Live podcast from Warner brother Studios. They're building

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Speaker 1: is a stage. It's two thousand people are going to

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Speaker 1: be there. Lucky fans. You got their tickets in time.

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Speaker 1: And everybody else is gonna have to stream it and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fine too.

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Speaker 2: How many of us are going to be there, people

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Speaker 2: from the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's gonna be uh. Well, we're announcing one at

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Speaker 1: a time.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I just announced Greg Henry and now I'm announcing you.

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Speaker 1: We're doing it. We're doing it on the air, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. Yeah, and uh, it's just going to be

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Speaker 1: so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Time forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, two thousand, it's gonna be great. All right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 5: We had.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun catching up with you

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Speaker 1: and and and uh we will see you very soon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: less than a month. We're going to be hanging out

943
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Speaker 1: again at Warner Brothers and I'll be there and and

944
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Speaker 1: doing our podcast thing. Okay, buddy, all right, I'll see

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Speaker 1: you then.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thank you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Be welcome you to see you soon. And that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it from us, Suzanne, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: That was good.

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Speaker 1: Best fans on the planet bar none. We're going to

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Speaker 1: see you December eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: Live.

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Speaker 1: And remember Where you lead, we will follow.

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Speaker 3: Take care, and don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at i Am All In podcast,

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Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com