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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, no more talk about

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Speaker 1: the Panthers game. It's been flushed. Time to look ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Seahawks, and specifically that Seahawks defense, which based

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Speaker 1: attention to the numbers. First though, here we go again,

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Speaker 1: Ankle watch week three. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode four

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Speaker 1: ninety seven and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki

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Speaker 1: keeping my fingers crossed. MJ that this is the last

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Speaker 1: week we have to do this, and that's monitor every

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Speaker 1: little movement Kyler Murray makes on the practice field. The

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Speaker 1: good news is Kyler Murray was on the practice field

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Speaker 1: during the open portion on Wednesday, so already as we

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Speaker 1: get closer to week eleven. A positive first step considering

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Speaker 1: we saw him practice on Friday, did some light throwing

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Speaker 1: pregame on Sunday, but Wednesday. Important to see your starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback on the football field. Yeah, and they've they've been

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Speaker 1: consistent just about you know, he is getting better. I

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Speaker 1: and they're not going to put him out there if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna danger himself because we know, just like any

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Speaker 1: going to be difficult for this team to make a run.

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Speaker 1: I do think they can make the postseason. And really

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Speaker 1: all three quarterbacks were out there. We know that Colton

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we're all looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: big game for them. It's a division game, it's a

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Speaker 1: the team, although according to one report, tried to sign

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Speaker 1: so that bodes well heading into week eleven. I was

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Speaker 1: But again, knock on wood, that's not needed because what

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Speaker 1: certainly optimistic. Of course, we've been down this road before,

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Speaker 1: And again, you know they want to be smart about it,

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Speaker 1: and if that's this week, then that's this week, regardless

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Speaker 1: later this week, especially if he's on the practice field

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Speaker 1: Friday and Thursday and Friday. Yeah, and I haven't looked

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Speaker 1: at the criteria. He did miss a few games, you know, obviously,

430
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Speaker 1: you know Brady's been able to stay healthy. Aaron Rodgers

431
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Speaker 1: didn't have a great week one. You know, Josh Allen's

432
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: played every game. Lamar Jackson said, some illness. I just

433
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Speaker 1: hope that people don't dock him from missing two games.

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Speaker 1: But to your point on the Monday scramble, you take

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Speaker 1: him off this team, and nothing against Colt McCowell. We

436
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Speaker 1: talked about it. He's good in a pinch, whether it's

437
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Speaker 1: a quarter a game. But anytime, like a backup quarterback,

438
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Speaker 1: when you get on film and teams out to see

439
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: watch what you did the week ago, they kind of

440
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Speaker 1: get exposed and there's a reason why they're backup. But

441
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: he's a great backup. Just from a a Q standpoint,

442
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: you can see they both root for each other and

443
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: they like that room. And I think Cam Turner's done

444
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Speaker 1: a good job with you know, obviously working with Murray

445
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Speaker 1: and making sure Colton McCoy got ready. But again, yeah,

446
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: there's a huge drop off when Kyler's not in there.

447
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Speaker 1: If you're gonna dock from players who don't play, I

448
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: understand that if it's six, seven, eight games, but if

449
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Speaker 1: it's two or three, I think that furthers your case.

450
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Speaker 1: And I was talking about you earlier in the week.

451
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Speaker 1: I go back, and this is dating myself, but let's

452
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Speaker 1: think back to Steve Nash and his MVP season, his

453
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Speaker 1: first MVP season in two thousand and four to two

454
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Speaker 1: thousand and five, he missed three games in mid January.

455
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Speaker 1: The Sun's lost all three of those games, and I

456
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Speaker 1: remember the discussion, well, look without Steve Nash, the Sons

457
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Speaker 1: can't win. With Steve Nash then the number one team

458
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Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. So that's the comparison. That's the

459
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Speaker 1: rument again, most valuable, not best player. When you're talking

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Speaker 1: about m VP. That's for me how I define it.

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Speaker 1: Others might define it differently. Yeah, I don't know if

462
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Speaker 1: you want to pick the scale, but I thought Shack

463
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Speaker 1: should have won those one of those MVPs. But anyway,

464
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Speaker 1: Steve Nash obviously a Hall of Famer. But I think

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Speaker 1: I think what's going to help in the long run

466
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Speaker 1: if he's able to come back and doesn't have any setbacks,

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Speaker 1: Fifteen out of seventeen is still a good percentage. It's

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Speaker 1: not like he played half the season, so you know,

469
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Speaker 1: of course, another game, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you know he's gonna put up his numbers. We know

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Speaker 1: the yards per attempt is up there, we know his

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Speaker 1: completion percentage up there, the sacks are down, so he

473
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Speaker 1: definitely should be in the conversation. Now, you know Aaron

474
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Speaker 1: Rodgers last year they were the number one seed and

475
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Speaker 1: he won the MVP. But I think seventeen game schedule,

476
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can knock a guy from missing

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Speaker 1: too because if you just miss one sixteen games, that's

478
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Speaker 1: a full season prior to this year. That's a good point. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 1: you're right, and you know, again all of this is

480
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Speaker 1: going to factor and we'll keep moving on. But we're

481
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Speaker 1: starting that third quarter of the regular season and week

482
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Speaker 1: eleven on Sunday, if Kyle Murray plays, another opportunity, but

483
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Speaker 1: a more important opportunity as far as you get this

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Speaker 1: team back in the win column, because as we hear

485
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Speaker 1: all the time, and it's cliche. Good teams don't lose

486
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Speaker 1: two in a row. Cardinals rebounded after the loss to

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Speaker 1: the Packers, beating San Francisco on the road. Now they're

488
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Speaker 1: facing a very similar situation. You lose that home to

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Speaker 1: the Panthers and you find yourself on the road against

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Speaker 1: the division team in Seattle. Yeah, and there's a stat

491
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Speaker 1: out there. You know, Russell Wilson's like thirty five and

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Speaker 1: ten coming off losses. Now, we got to look at

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Speaker 1: the totality of his career. He had a great running

494
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Speaker 1: game in Marshawn Lynch, they had a really good defense,

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Speaker 1: So those numbers could it could be a little screw skewed,

496
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Speaker 1: but I did look it up. This would be as eight.

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Speaker 1: I think this. He's had eighteen games against the Cardinals ten,

498
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Speaker 1: seven and one, so very we know that they've won

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Speaker 1: here and when they've won up there. So take out

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Speaker 1: the Marshawn Lynch days, the Legion of Boom days, where

501
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: they were they were they were rolling. I mean they

502
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Speaker 1: won won twelve games last year, twelve and four. That's

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Speaker 1: why a lot of people will you know that they're

504
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Speaker 1: gonna come back. But when you lose your quarterback for

505
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Speaker 1: a few weeks. But I do think their defense is

506
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Speaker 1: starting to show their upside. But yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's I like the I like the I like the

508
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Speaker 1: matchup and the fact that they got a chance to

509
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Speaker 1: play him twice between now in week eighteen. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into this matchup here on Cardinals Cover two

511
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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Seahawks

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Speaker 1: three and six. They lost four of five last week,

513
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Speaker 1: losing on the road at Green Bay shut out seventeen

514
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Speaker 1: to nothing. And this Seahawks team only one and three

515
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Speaker 1: on at home this year. But when you look at

516
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Speaker 1: the defense, and I'm glad you brought up the Legion

517
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Speaker 1: of Boom because it is anything but that. And this

518
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Speaker 1: year thirty first best defense as far as yards per game,

519
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Speaker 1: number twenty six against the run, number twenty nine against

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Speaker 1: the pass. Yet they are eighth on third down, ninth

521
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Speaker 1: on fourth down. They have the number one, the number

522
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Speaker 1: nine scoring defense. But just those numbers, as far as

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Speaker 1: jars that they're allowing. Talking about that Seahawks defense, that's

524
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Speaker 1: not something we've seen over the past decade. If you

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Speaker 1: will under head coach Pete Carroll, no matter who is

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, because when we talk about Seahawks, first

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Speaker 1: thing at least I think about it's, yeah, Russell Wilson,

528
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Speaker 1: but it's it's that defense and the legion of boom.

529
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Speaker 1: But they don't have obviously Richard Sherman anymore. They let

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Speaker 1: kJ Wright, they didn't resign him. Shaquille Griffin, Quentin Dunbar

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Speaker 1: left in free agency, So some new faces, if you will,

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Speaker 1: on that defense. And right now, through ten games or

533
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Speaker 1: for them through nine games, they just haven't played particularly

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Speaker 1: well on defense. Yeah, and you know they still have

535
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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, and of course they don't want made the

536
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Speaker 1: trade for Jamal Adams. And you know, it's interesting just

537
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Speaker 1: from you know, a standpoint of you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that plays in the box a little bit um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess we're not going to see that

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Speaker 1: match up with him against the secondary of the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: without Hopkins out there. So maybe and then in week eighteen,

542
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: what are the Cardinals playing for at that point? You know,

543
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is that his last game as the Seahawk,

544
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Speaker 1: And I wonder how much criticism is going to come

545
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Speaker 1: down on Pete Carroll because you know, just like all

546
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Speaker 1: four of these teams, I think the Niners, the Seahawks,

547
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: and the Rams, their expectations were to get to the

548
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'm sure that we're for the Cardinals. I

549
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: think every team's goal going in the training camps to

550
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Speaker 1: win the division. I mean, Joe host a playoff game.

551
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean Pete Carroll has been there a

552
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Speaker 1: long time. You know, I was talking to somebody earlier

553
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Speaker 1: in the field. Can you imagine if he had won

554
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Speaker 1: that second Super Bowl? I mean, he won national championships,

555
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Speaker 1: and I really think that because they chose to throw

556
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Speaker 1: the ball, he lost a little bit that locker room,

557
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: and I think it carried over. But he's a defensive

558
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: minded head coach. Ken Norton does a good job. It's

559
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Speaker 1: just they don't have the same horses, and so that's

560
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Speaker 1: where you know, Metcal's got to be more focused. You know,

561
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: he kind of gets cut lost in some of these

562
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Speaker 1: scuffles and once they have the you know, last say,

563
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Speaker 1: and Tyler Locket's a good player, and you know, I

564
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Speaker 1: think they're waiting for Chris Carson to come back, and

565
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: he's a guy that they I think they totally miss

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Speaker 1: in the run game. Yeah, Carson has missed the last

567
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Speaker 1: five games with a neck injury, and even Jordan Hicks

568
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: brought him up talking about Chris Carson expecting him to

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Speaker 1: be back this week. We'll have to wait and see

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Speaker 1: on that. This Seahawks defense, though they give up a

571
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: ton of yards, though they clamp down in the red zone,

572
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: their fifth in the red zone and again just under

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Speaker 1: twenty one points a game they are allowing. That just

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Speaker 1: hasn't materialized as far as the win loss record is concern.

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Speaker 1: But numbers wise, over four hundred yards, over one hundred

576
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Speaker 1: and twenty five yards on the ground, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five yards through the air. So away with or

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Speaker 1: without Kyler Murray for a James Conner, Eno Benjamin on

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Speaker 1: the ground and a j Green, Christian Kirk, Rondel Moore

580
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Speaker 1: zach Ertz through the air to be able to move

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Speaker 1: the football up and down the field. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: kind of like bend but don't break. They are in

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Speaker 1: the top ten. I want to say their ninth overall

584
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Speaker 1: and points a lot. I think the Cardinals are sixth

585
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Speaker 1: or seventh in there, so you know they're not giving

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Speaker 1: up a ton of points. But again, I think he

587
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Speaker 1: still can move the football from the twenty to twenty

588
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: and it's a matter of are you kicking field goals

589
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Speaker 1: or are you scoring touchdowns? And we know when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Kyla Murray if he's got all the weapons,

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Speaker 1: I think Art's can be a good red zone, target,

592
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Speaker 1: goal line guy. And of course James Connor, to me,

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Speaker 1: he's the perfect back when you're when you're within the

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Speaker 1: five yard line. Of course, the Seahawks, so you brought

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Speaker 1: him up, still have Bobby Wagner. He's thirty one years

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Speaker 1: old and he's still producing. He leads the team and tackles.

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Speaker 1: He ranks seconds in the league and tackles and this

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00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: is his kid. Could had to reread this a couple

599
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Speaker 1: of different times. This is tenth straight one hundred tackles season. MJ.

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Speaker 1: He had one hundred tackles in nine games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a tackling machine. And you know, I know that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks doesn't have as many tackles as him. I

603
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Speaker 1: think he had three ninety two in the last X

604
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Speaker 1: amount of years. Jordan Hicks had like three twenty four.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Zach cutting him. Guys in the middle,

606
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Speaker 1: but you're hoping those tackles are coming at the line

607
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But you can't control that if you're not

608
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Speaker 1: getting a push up front. But to have a guy

609
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Speaker 1: like that and Fred Warner and Jordan Hicks and your defense,

610
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Speaker 1: it goes a long way. They may not be the

611
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Speaker 1: most athletic guys, but they're football IQ. They can recognize

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Speaker 1: stuff coming out of the huddle. And at thirty one

613
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Speaker 1: years old, that's the football IQ that you've been doing

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Speaker 1: this now for ten plus seasons. It's, yeah, you need

615
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Speaker 1: to have some athletic system, some skill, but it's also

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Speaker 1: recognizing what you watched during the week on film to

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Speaker 1: recognize what that's going to happen materialize on the football

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Speaker 1: field and reacting to that, maybe even before the ball

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Speaker 1: is snapped. A lot of that is the pre snap

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Speaker 1: understanding what an offense wants to do because the film

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Speaker 1: study you did. Yeah, and he's been there as long

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Speaker 1: as I can remember, so he's gone through Aria and Staff,

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Speaker 1: Wilkes and now obviously Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think when kJ Wright was there, I can't say

625
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Speaker 1: it was every down, but I did think they put

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Speaker 1: a spy on him, but I'm sure he's able to

627
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I D things on formation and Jordan Hicks does the

628
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: same thing Fred Warner. Again, when you play a team

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Speaker 1: in your division. Granted they haven't played him until week eleven,

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Speaker 1: They've already played the Niners twice. They're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: Rams coming up in December on Monday. Nay football, I

632
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Speaker 1: just think you don't have to go deep into your

633
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Speaker 1: playbook what you know, stick to what works. I mean, clearly,

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Speaker 1: if they see something in an you do it over

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Speaker 1: and over, then maybe you change it. Because one of

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Speaker 1: the things I really appreciate about this offense Kingsbury and

637
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: then the Rams is they can run the same play

638
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Speaker 1: formation wise. It could be a run to the right,

639
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Speaker 1: a pass to the right, a pass to the left,

640
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: or runt and it all looks the same. So in

641
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: other words, okay, we're gonna play chess here and who's

642
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: gonna get the last move? And that's what I like

643
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: about these offense. Now, I will say, just based on

644
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: the coordinator in Seattle, they are running a similar offense

645
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: to with the Rams, and the forty nine Ers are

646
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: a little bit hybrid. And you know, everyone said, let

647
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Russ Cook. Well, one thing we really haven't nailed down

648
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: is they've never had a great offensive line. We can

649
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: get to the offense on Thursday. We're just looking at

650
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagger and then the other focal point. And Jamal

651
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Lewis as far as what he was able to have

652
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: found this interesting last week, I mean, he filled up

653
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the stat sheet an interception eleven times. Two quarterback kids,

654
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: but that interception his first. We're in a Seahawks uniform. Wow,

655
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: and they give up a couple of first round picks

656
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: for him. That was mind boggling. Even watching the Monday

657
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: night game where you got a guy like, um, what's

658
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: his um? And Taylor Ramsey, Yeah, he wasn't, not on

659
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Kittle or Deebo Samuel. I'm like, didn't you get this

660
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: for this guy? And he was gone. He was guarding

661
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: a third received. I don't know if they were playing

662
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: zone um, but yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's

663
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: like I said, I like the match up, and I

664
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: just think because we're familiar with them and vice versa,

665
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come down to the simple things, you know, turnovers,

666
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: field position, penalties, you know, just little things. And I

667
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: thought the Cardinals have cleaned that up pretty good this year.

668
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: They're not making costly mistakes. You're the two turnovers last

669
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: week costly mistakes. But when it comes to penalties, and

670
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I haven't checked the stalled drive statistic that we all

671
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: learned a year ago, but they're overcoming some of those penalties.

672
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: And if there are some penalties, they're not they're not

673
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the egregious ones that all of a sudden is like, okay,

674
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: well this drive is done. Last year at this time

675
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: they had seventy nine penalties for over six hundred yards.

676
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: They're at seventy two and they're about five hundred yards.

677
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: And when you look at the stall drives, it's really

678
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: a single number. It could be five to seven, not

679
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen. So when I look at that stat

680
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: you see a lot of zeros, and then there's a

681
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: couple of guys that have one or two, and obviously

682
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: that's from a you know, holding penalty or I think

683
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Josh Jones is on there a few times, maybe even

684
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Humphries at one time. Well you look last week, they

685
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: just had four penalties, three of which happened in the

686
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: third quarter. Marco Wilson had a past interference call against him,

687
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: so those kind of plays hurts. And you know, Sean

688
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Harlow holding call to make it second and twenty in

689
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: the second quarter, those hurt and that was a stall

690
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: drive because they ended up going three and out. But

691
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen it on a consistent basis. And

692
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: when you're moving the football up and down the field,

693
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, those penalties, Yeah, they might

694
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: still be happening, but you're getting better production when you

695
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: do have the football. Yeah, and again, I think, you know,

696
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this team has to

697
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: get back to playing complimentary football. And you know, I

698
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: just think when Kyler's on the field, they can they

699
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: can push the envelope a little bit more. They can

700
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: really open up the offense. And then if you start

701
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: scoring points, the other team has got to go, Okay,

702
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: we can't run the ball anymore. And then the defense

703
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: starts to tee off and get force some turnovers and

704
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: special teams you know, possibly can get you some field positions.

705
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: So I know it sounds like a cliche, but if

706
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you're playing complimentary football, you're not beating yourselves. Another item,

707
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: when you look at this Seahawks defense and the hope

708
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray does play this week and has some

709
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: success and maybe doesn't need to scramble a lot. Is

710
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: because you look at the one the passing statistics, as

711
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: we talked about two seventy five yards allowed by the

712
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense, but they're not getting much pressure on quarterbacks.

713
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Fourteen sacks this season and last year. As I was

714
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: doing some research and reading up on the Seahawks, remember

715
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: they added Carlos Dunlap, they brought in Jamal Adams, and

716
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: that second half of the season last year they were

717
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: really getting after the quarterback. A league hid thirty seven

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: sacks over the final ten games last year. This year

719
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: through nine games, just fourteen sacks. That tells me one

720
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: great job by offensive lines that are facing the Seahawks,

721
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: but more importantly, they're not being able to get into

722
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: the backfield. And then you look at the passing numbers

723
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: and it is okay, well, there's a correlation there. Quarterbacks

724
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: that are having all the time in the world to

725
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: pick apart the death defense and that Seahawks secondary. Yeah,

726
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: and that's interesting because you're right, and if teams can,

727
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: if teams can, you know, obviously try to run it. Again.

728
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: I've never been a big fan of their offensive line,

729
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: but I know what you're saying. From the defense standpoint,

730
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: you would think that they would be able to create

731
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: some more one on one matchups and when because right

732
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: now I think teams say we're not afraid of sitting

733
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: back in the air and patting the ball a little

734
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: bit and now clearly that you want to get it out.

735
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: As the NFL, they get paid two. But I'm sure

736
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: that's you look at the numbers you brought up in

737
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the second half. I didn't know that. I just know

738
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: that they're always in the teams in the first half

739
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: of the season, dating back for the last couple of years.

740
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: But they do have some guys that can win one

741
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: on one matchups. And now it's just a matter of

742
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting their offensive line back to what they

743
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: need to be. Dunlap on that defensive fronts carry Hyder

744
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: who they resigned in the offseason. LJ. Collier has not

745
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: played a whole heck of a lot and that's in fact,

746
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: last week was only the third time this season in

747
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: which he was active, So there's not you know, Robert

748
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: Kimdici is on this Seahawks team. I'm sure you know.

749
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: If we look back at Hassan Redick and zag Gonzalez

750
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: what they did on Sunday, and all of a sudden,

751
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: you're at home, Robert Kimdici seeing at Cardinal's uniform, will

752
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: see how much time he gets against his old team.

753
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're DJ Humphreys, Justin Pugh, hopefully

754
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: he gets to play Rodney Hudson, Max Garcia, Calvin Beecham.

755
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: It's look on paper. And we've learned a lot this

756
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: season that you can't judge an opponent by what you

757
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: read on paper because even any given Sunday and things

758
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: happen unexpectedly on Sundays. But this is not what you

759
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: would call a scary defense when it comes to getting

760
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: after opposing quarterbacks. No, And you know, you know, Kimdici,

761
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad he got. He has an opportunity. That's all

762
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: you can ask for. Obviously, he's you know, he was

763
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: disappointing here and then he went to Miami, et cetera.

764
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: But you know he's he's very undisciplined. So sometimes you

765
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: can he'll jump offsides or you know, get a late hit.

766
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't I don't think it's

767
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: his demeanor. Is to do that. I just think sometimes

768
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: he has to make a play and he definitely wants

769
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: to play physical, so they're they're aware of his skill set.

770
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be too much of

771
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: a an issue, but you can get him to play

772
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: the echo of the whistle and maybe throw a flag

773
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: on him. You watch now, we talk about all of this,

774
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: and just the complete one eighty will transpire on Sunday.

775
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm look, I'm I'm trying not to get ahead of myself.

776
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: I apologized to the bird Gang, figuring that cult, McCoy

777
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and everything in would be okay going into the Panthers game.

778
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: And we know what happened in that contest on Sunday.

779
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: But you just look at and that's all you can

780
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: go on. I mean, we're not watching every single snap

781
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks this season, and it is kind of

782
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: odd that here we are close to Thanksgiving and it's

783
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the first time we're seeing the Seahawks this year record wise,

784
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: numbers wise, defensively, and we'll get into the numbers. Offensively,

785
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: they're not any better, but defensively, it's just they're missing

786
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: the household names. They're missing that aura about them. The

787
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: legion of boom. It's there's it's it's not very loud.

788
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: It's it's a little quiet when you talk about the

789
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense. Yeah, and it's interesting. We had a couple

790
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks this offseason that you know, obviously they want

791
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere, and Hare's Russell Wilson given four or

792
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: five teams that he it's gonna be interesting how this

793
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: season plays out. And you know, I guess that's their worry.

794
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to take care of business and then going

795
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: that bye week. But you know, you fast forward a

796
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: week eighteen, I mean, what are they playing for? What

797
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: are we playing for? And you know, what's the future

798
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll. I still think he's a good coach.

799
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have the horses they had

800
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: in the past. We say all this about the Seahawks,

801
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: yet at three and six, there's still only a game

802
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: and a half out of that final playoff spot. Now

803
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: they've got to jump a bunch of teams. They're fourteenth

804
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: in the conference. Yet that seventh seed is still very

805
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: much alive for the Seahawks and Dartner. Every single team

806
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: outside of the Detroit Lions, and that's why you know,

807
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: you get a win like the Panthers did on Sunday

808
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers on Monday Night Football, and then

809
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you start feeling good about yourselves. Hey,

810
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe we can get on a roll. That's what the

811
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to prevent this week is the Seahawks thinking

812
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: that they can salvage their season. Because three and seven

813
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: that's hard to come out of. But four and six, now,

814
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they've got some life. Yeah, you're

815
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: two games behind, you know, being five hundred. And that

816
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: was very similar to when the Cardinals played the forty

817
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: nine ers and then here the Rams go out and

818
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: make these trades and the forty nine ers went up

819
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: there and you know, whip their backside. So yeah, I

820
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: mean every team is just And that's why I say,

821
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: at this point in the year, and I really believe it,

822
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: and I should I should have had this before we

823
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: went into the Carolina game. Just throw all their records.

824
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's talented. The league is littered with great athletes.

825
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: Some have more talent than others, but we all know talent.

826
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: If you don't plays as a unit, and if you

827
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: don't have all eleven guys doing the same thing. Well,

828
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: that most talented team on game day may not win

829
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: as a team that plays the best that day. And

830
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I've learned that over the years, and that's why I

831
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: really like this team, how they're wired in the leadership

832
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: they have, and that's why I think they avoid losing streaks.

833
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: But again, it's a division opponent. They're very familiar with

834
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: each other. And let's hope the Seahawks haven't figured things

835
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: out on a defensive front, because their last three games thirteen,

836
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: seven and seventeen points allowed as compared to sixteen, thirty,

837
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: three thirty to begin the season. And I gotta think

838
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Craig when he went down, they knew that Geno Smith

839
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: game manager. I don't think it's it's a bad word.

840
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: It's just don't turn it over, don't lose the game

841
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: for us. So I think they got a little bit

842
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: more conservative where maybe they were going. You know, Russell

843
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: takes some shots down the field. I think so they

844
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: got more conservative. But the defense they really have improved

845
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: ever since Russell Wilson went down. And they had a

846
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: chance in that game last week. I know that, you

847
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: know they didn't score, but there are opportunities in that

848
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: game and you know, anytime you're going on the road,

849
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and you know, the one thing I'll say though, the

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Speaker 1: a long flight going back home. So I think the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals would have an advantage of considering they were at

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Speaker 1: home again. All that won't matter until you get to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But it's not easy to go to Green Bay don't

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Speaker 1: score first time in one hundred and sixty six games

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Speaker 1: for him, So I gotta think they're going back to

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Speaker 1: the drawing board. But I think if they get Chris

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Speaker 1: Carson back, I think they feel like they get more

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Speaker 1: balanced on their offense. The one number to keep in

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Speaker 1: mind when you talk about the Seahawks and their defense,

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Speaker 1: aside from all the yards that they allowed, but the

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Speaker 1: scoring defense number nine and twenty point seven points per game,

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Speaker 1: because that on its surface should be enough to win

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Speaker 1: you a lot of games. Last week's seventeen points that

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Speaker 1: should not beat you. And then in the NFL on

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Speaker 1: this day and age, and that's not normal for Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson led team. They're always I mean, yeah, they put

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Speaker 1: up thirty five forty you know when they had Marshawn

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Speaker 1: Lynch and they had a really good you know, weapons

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Speaker 1: on the outside. But you would think, just based on

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Hudini at times, you know, making plays out

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Speaker 1: of nothing, that they would score at least fifteen to

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Speaker 1: eighteen points. But that did not happen. And I think

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Speaker 1: we're starting to see the upside of the Packers defense.

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Speaker 1: They haven't got Box to Terry back, but they're getting

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Speaker 1: you know, Smith back and Alexander and that's a really

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Speaker 1: good defense. But again, I just feel like, if you're Seattle,

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Speaker 1: they found something in their defense, and now they're probably

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Speaker 1: hoping that Russell Wilson can get back to Udini. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if he has the same weapons. Well

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Speaker 1: that's fine, they can find and figure all that stuff out,

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Speaker 1: just not this week Sunday, November twenty first, at two

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Speaker 1: twenty five, when they kick off from looming field week

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Speaker 1: eleven Cardinals at the Seahawks and then the bye week.

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Speaker 1: Yes it's looming, and we'll talk about that on Friday,

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Speaker 1: because I do think that's important factor this week and

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Speaker 1: everyone coach, players have all been asked about what's ahead,

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Speaker 1: but mindful of that it's today, it's this week, not

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Speaker 1: next week, the week after that. Yeah, I just hope

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Speaker 1: that they get to win a nice flight home and

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Speaker 1: then they can exhale, and then we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: worry about COVID. You know, I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: guys are traveling. I know where the NFL is gonna

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Speaker 1: up the annie when it comes to getting tested because

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Speaker 1: now other teams are playing, but you know, the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: if they have family over or guys are traveling. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I just hope they can get through that and

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Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about it. But obviously COVID's

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Speaker 1: it's still popping up. You're seeing top names still pop up,

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Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully for some of these guys they're asymptomatic,

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Speaker 1: they can get two negative tests where they don't miss

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Speaker 1: a lot of games, because you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: see the best players out there. A reminder bird Gang

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl voting underway. Go to NFL dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl votes, vote early, vote often. Send your favorite

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Speaker 1: Cardinals players to Las Vegas on Sunday, February sixth. You know, Craig,

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Speaker 1: I was disappointed the other day because I think if

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals would have won, we would have been able

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Hall Murray play. The anniversary was Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday. Boy, that does not seem like a

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Speaker 1: year ago. That almost feels like five years. And that's

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Speaker 1: when this team hit the wall. Yeah, but like I said,

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Speaker 1: I see it everywhere because you know on Facebook they

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Speaker 1: give you memories. And then we had the DeAndre Ayton

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Speaker 1: dunk or the crowder passed to him. So that was

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Speaker 1: a great moment in Phoenix sports history. But we couldn't

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Speaker 1: even talk about it because it's like it's not relevant

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Speaker 1: right now. But it was one of the best plays,

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Speaker 1: if not a one for best play plus clutch play,

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Speaker 1: and according to Hopkins, it was more him than Kyler Murray. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: better catch bye. I still one of the better quotes

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Speaker 1: ever uttered by an Arizona Cardo player. We're doing we're

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Speaker 1: doing a podcast. But he always had the head too,

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Speaker 1: he had better catch by. I miss that guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see him this week, but

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Speaker 1: maybe after Chicago. But yeah, you lose sight of some

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Speaker 1: of these players, like, oh, that's right, he is on

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Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, I just I was disappointed because if

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Speaker 1: the win, then you can you don't go back and

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Speaker 1: you know, pump your chest out, but I think social media,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't talked to anybody. But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like it was on the forefront. No, it was not.

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Speaker 1: But let's hope maybe there's some new memories, some betters

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Speaker 1: coming up this week when the Cardinals play at the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: More on that matchup as the week progresses here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. And on that note, let's put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Alma Hundre or Mike Jarecky.

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayel Loop. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two.