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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to masks, he is our favorite data nerd,

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Speaker 1: and we say that with love. Ian Miller joins us now,

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Speaker 1: author of Unmasked, the global failure of COVID masked mandates.

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Speaker 1: He's got a sub stack called Unmasked, which I subscribe

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Speaker 1: to recommend you do as well. Ian, Thanks for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Thanks so much for having me. So you

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Speaker 1: share these great graphs and charts, and you just you

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Speaker 1: share the data in almost the same way that libs

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Speaker 1: of TikTok just exposes what is for people to see

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Speaker 1: themselves on the left. You share the data that is

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Speaker 1: so people can understand or that are as people can

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Speaker 1: understand that. It's very clear at this point that mask

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Speaker 1: mandates do not work. Just wondering what you think of Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Florida. Philadelphia is done with their mask mandate.

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Speaker 1: LA's putting one in place. Fauci says the courts shouldn't

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Speaker 1: weigh in what is the data telling us about all this?

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Speaker 1: While Philadelphia was a great, really fun example because they

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Speaker 1: ended it after four days and the mayor tried to

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Speaker 1: take credit for hospitalizations dropping in cases leveling Austin four days,

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Speaker 1: you know, after we've been told for two years that

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Speaker 1: it takes two weeks to show any any benefits. So

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Speaker 1: you know, that was pretty encouraging to me. Actually, it

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Speaker 1: seems like people were pretty upset by it, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pushback, and you know, hopefully that's the

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Speaker 1: trend going forward. You know, LA is I'm completely unsurprised

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Speaker 1: that they are going to continue masking in translation in

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Speaker 1: other areas, it's it's just been one of the areas

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Speaker 1: it's been most devoted to masking, which makes sense because

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Speaker 1: the LA's numbers have been some of the worst in

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Speaker 1: the country and worse in the world throughout the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: despite their dedication of masking. And then obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: we know Fauci's never going to let up on continuing

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Speaker 1: to push her mask It's always going to be too

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Speaker 1: soon for him. And despite all of the data showing

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Speaker 1: that's made no difference. Ian, You've done phenomenal work and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you making the time to come on with us.

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Speaker 1: Where does this go? I got asked this morning, we

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Speaker 1: do an altkick mailbag. Somebody said, why would they be

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Speaker 1: appealing this decision because they had the opportunity to just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's a crazy Trump judge down in Florida. Their base

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Speaker 1: blames her for changing it, and they can kind of

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Speaker 1: then allows them to say, hey, this is over. What

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Speaker 1: are they doing? What's the plan here? Yeah? I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, my concern is that they're doing this to

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Speaker 1: try to maintain the authority that they thought they had

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Speaker 1: to mandate masks on planes and buses and other transit.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's kind of a The fact

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Speaker 1: that they're not They didn't try to get an immediate

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Speaker 1: stay shows you that they're not too dedicated to actually

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Speaker 1: fighting this. I think they're they're kind of trying to

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Speaker 1: have it both ways where they can signal to their base,

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Speaker 1: the people who want masking forever. Lucy, Look, we're appealing,

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Speaker 1: we're going to fight this and then but also not

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Speaker 1: know kind of anger voters and other people who have

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Speaker 1: just been set up with it. And we're so excited

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Speaker 1: as we saw these videos of people on planes and

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to take masks off. I am concerned

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Speaker 1: that they will try to bring it back in the winter,

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Speaker 1: especially in places like New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: kind of a half hearted attempt that doesn't really go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Ian Miller, author of the book Unmasked,

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Speaker 1: The Global Failure of COVID Mask mandates. Ian. One thing

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Speaker 1: that I have heard, and actually you've heard some of

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Speaker 1: the advisors to the Biden White House on COVID start

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Speaker 1: to say, is they go, okay, so fine cloth masks

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Speaker 1: don't really work. I mean they always leave a little

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Speaker 1: bit of hedging like don't work as advertised, or don't

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Speaker 1: work from the data that I've seen a lot of it,

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Speaker 1: by the way, stuff that you've been sharing publicly, club

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Speaker 1: masks don't work, period, Like don't work to stop COVID.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no percentage that you could actually even prove,

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Speaker 1: you know, five percent, ten percent. But then they'll say

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. The Biden administration wants the

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Speaker 1: power to reinstitute mask mandates, even if they don't do

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Speaker 1: the future. But I worry that we're going to go

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Speaker 1: through what Germany did right with N ninety five masks.

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Speaker 1: What as the mandate? What is the actual data tell

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Speaker 1: theory that they would be the most effective masks, but

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Speaker 1: in order for that to be possible, they have to

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Speaker 1: be fit tested to every individual person. And obviously you

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Speaker 1: which is obviously what people do in the general population.

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Speaker 1: So what we saw in Germany and in Austria where

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Speaker 1: have skyrocketed in every metric cases hospitalization's death, and they've

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Speaker 1: far exceeded other parts of Europe that don't have these

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Speaker 1: compare with Germany and Sweden, where obviously in Sweden hardly anybody,

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Speaker 1: had these very strict, high quality mask mandates. So again,

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Speaker 1: just as with all the other types of masks, every

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Speaker 1: time that you do these comparisons, there's zero percent benefit.

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Speaker 1: There is no benefit whatsoever, and it's kind of ridiculous

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Speaker 1: they keep pushing for it. Ian. How does the thirty

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Speaker 1: or forty percent of people that are committed to left

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Speaker 1: rallying cry, their social justice projection out into the world,

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Speaker 1: how do they become aware that masks didn't work? Or

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Speaker 1: at you at this point, given all the data, are

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Speaker 1: you convinced those people are going to go to their

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Speaker 1: graves thirty or forty years from now still convinced that

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Speaker 1: masking made a difference and that mass work. Right. I'm

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Speaker 1: very concerned that it's the latter. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to kind of get their information exclusively from,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I always call it to believe in

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Speaker 1: science crowd. You know, I see those yard signs that

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Speaker 1: just never can accept that and can come back. And

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Speaker 1: it's really kind of depressing to think that they've been

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Speaker 1: really ever going to accept that CDC's own databases and

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Speaker 1: some of them saying I'm gonna triple mask forever. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, is there even an

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Speaker 1: states without it. Over the course, it's fantastic and yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think we have seen some success.

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Speaker 1: And I think we've kind of seen that, if with

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Speaker 1: done fantastic or trust me, guys. Go follow him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Ean MSc. He's the author of Unmasked, the

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Speaker 1: global failure of COVID mask mandates. His sub stack is unmasked.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the time, and thank you for all

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Speaker 1: the work. Thank you, guys, really appreciate it. At Ean

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Speaker 1: those charts because sometimes those can be more effective in

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, everybody, former White House senior advisor to President Trump,

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Speaker 1: and also clayinbuck dot com. If you're curious what's popping

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Speaker 1: out there, what you might have missed, and you want

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Speaker 1: Will have spen a lot of times so far in

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Speaker 1: the program talking about Ron DeSantis versus Disney and the

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Speaker 1: fallout and the impact there. Also doctor Fauci, our tiny

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Speaker 1: little buddy who does not seem to understand that the

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Speaker 1: courts have the opportunity to review governmental action including the CDC.

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green under siege connected to January sixth, and

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Speaker 1: what do we think about the idea of being able

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Speaker 1: to pull a congressman or congresswoman, senator whoever it might

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Speaker 1: be out of office based on disqualifying them for the ballot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Buck and I'm not an expert on

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Speaker 1: Georgia election law, but I was thinking about our discussion earlier.

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Speaker 1: I think even if she were not allowed to run

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Speaker 1: as the Republican nominee, that she would be able to run.

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Speaker 1: I think as an independent, which you know I mean

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Speaker 1: to write in candidate whatever you want to see. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you could take her off of the ballot entirely. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in Georgia election law, but if

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Speaker 1: she were not allowed to run as a Republican, I

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Speaker 1: think they would have the opportunity potentially to run as

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Speaker 1: an independent. But that's a story worth following. And just

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Speaker 1: so you know of we have reached out to Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green and she is going to join us next

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Speaker 1: week to talk about the battle that she is under.

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Speaker 1: Because whether you're for or against her, I just find

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Speaker 1: the idea in general of using procedural mechanisms to keep

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Speaker 1: someone from being able to be on the ballot and

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Speaker 1: not allowing people to make a choice from a democratic

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Speaker 1: perspective as being the antithesis of what we would hope

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Speaker 1: to stand for as a country when it comes to

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Speaker 1: being able to choose our elected leaders and judge them

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Speaker 1: based on the choices that they are making, good or

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Speaker 1: bad as we perceive them to be. So all of

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Speaker 1: that is going on. We have been talking a lot

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Speaker 1: about the fallout in Florida and Buck this is one

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Speaker 1: of There are many different things about the midterm elections

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Speaker 1: that to me are going to be interesting. But we've

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Speaker 1: heartbeat of the Republican Party, and ultimately DeSantis's election campaign

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Speaker 1: as governor is going to be a referendum not only

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Speaker 1: many other governors may go, based on how exactly he

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Speaker 1: overwhelming validation that he's likely to get from Florida voters.

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Speaker 1: He's not backing down because the momentum is with the governor,

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Speaker 1: with the state GOP in Florida, who deserves a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit on this one. Remember, there was a whole

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Speaker 1: campaign that don't say gay Bill. The whole media was

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Speaker 1: trying to get Florida or the Florida government to ben

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Speaker 1: Venie and Governor de Santists decided that that wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to happen, not on his watch. And if you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: is our side overstating the stakes here of this issue

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Speaker 1: of training children, indoctrinating children. Here is Chief Commissar of

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Speaker 1: the Teacher Union, Randy wine Garden telling everybody that Clay,

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Speaker 1: this is how wars start. We've been very lucky in

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Speaker 1: America and we in some ways live in a bubble

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Speaker 1: for a long time. This is propaganda, this is misinformation.

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Speaker 1: This is the way in which wars start. This is

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Speaker 1: the way in which hatred starts. Can I just if

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Speaker 1: they're going to keep saying, you know, Obama is now

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Speaker 1: making the rounds as somebody who's against disinformation, wondering if

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Speaker 1: if you can keep your doctor, if you like your doctors.

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Speaker 1: Still Obama's out there telling everybody that disinformation on the

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Speaker 1: internet is a threat to democracy. So free speech is

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Speaker 1: now a threat to democracy. I want everyone understand this

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Speaker 1: is the this is the actual position of the democratic lead.

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Speaker 1: But Randy Weinarten says that it's it's lies, it's disinformation.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, how what is the disinformation? Are our children

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Speaker 1: being taught transgender ideology in kindergarten that makes a vast

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Speaker 1: majority of American parents highly uncomfortable. The answer that question

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Speaker 1: is yes. So what is she saying that the disinformation

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Speaker 1: increasingly and this goes the lives of TikTok issue too.

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Speaker 1: Clay seems to be when information gets out there that

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Speaker 1: the left doesn't like, it's disinformation. Well, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how Randy Winegarden still has a job. So let's take

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Speaker 1: away this ridiculous idea that this is how wars start.

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Speaker 1: If you want to argue that choices that are made

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Speaker 1: define and end up causing wars. Randy Weinarden made the

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Speaker 1: single worst decision of almost anybody out there in the

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Speaker 1: larger universe when she kept kids out of school, and

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Speaker 1: when she argued that kids were in danger from COVID

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Speaker 1: despite all the evidence to the contrary, When she tried

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Speaker 1: to create the idea that remote learning was a real

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Speaker 1: thing and wasn't an oxymorn, she created such a travesty

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Speaker 1: of teaching justice that if there were any equality or

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Speaker 1: equity in the world, she would have lost her job.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, she deserves, I think, to suffer legal consequences.

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Speaker 1: I think the teachers unions deserved to be held accountable

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Speaker 1: for keeping kids out of school and for all the

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Speaker 1: lies and disinformation that they spread about COVID that led

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Speaker 1: to so many people out there, in particular moms who

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Speaker 1: had to suddenly be responsible not only for their kids

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Speaker 1: during non school hours, but they basically had to turn

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Speaker 1: into school teachers as well. This woman, to me, is

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Speaker 1: right up there with Fauci, an indefensible position. There may

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Speaker 1: be tremendous justice here that is possible, and it's ironic

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Speaker 1: that this is how it would come about Randy Weingarten,

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Speaker 1: And this is a matter of fact, this is a

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Speaker 1: matter of record, along with other teachers union commissars and

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Speaker 1: apparachics worked with Fauci and the Biden White House to

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Speaker 1: make determinations about school opening full stop. What does she

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Speaker 1: know about health? Nothing? But the Democrat Party is reliant

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Speaker 1: on teachers unions for votes and for funding and for

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Speaker 1: the indoctrination of children. So when you add all these

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Speaker 1: things up, it is a very powerful tool, a power

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Speaker 1: center of the left. So that's why they were able

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Speaker 1: to do this. But the irony is by having more

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Speaker 1: and more time at home, by parents being forced to

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Speaker 1: have their children do zoom instruction. That third part of

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Speaker 1: the evil triad, if you will, that third part of

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Speaker 1: the equation of how they're indoctrinating children, and was exposed

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Speaker 1: to parents in a way that, let's be honest, never

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Speaker 1: would have. Parents are busy, you're a parent, you your wife,

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Speaker 1: you've got three kids, you got a lot of things

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Speaker 1: going on. You're never going to sit at home for

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Speaker 1: eight hours a day. And here during that whole period,

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Speaker 1: what the school instruction will be? Right, parents were going

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Speaker 1: to sit there until zoom was possible. This was never

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Speaker 1: going to until zoom instruction became the rule. So they

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Speaker 1: learned what was going on here. And this now may

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Speaker 1: lead to a massive defeat for the Democrats and the

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Speaker 1: left in the fall. So if you want justice for

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Speaker 1: these stupid shutdowns and lockdowns of these schools the Democrats did,

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Speaker 1: this is the opportunity for it. And it's only possible

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Speaker 1: because of the lockdowns. And we should say there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of teachers and school administrators that listen to

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Speaker 1: this pro who are awesome that just like the nicest us,

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Speaker 1: just like the nice airline attendants who aren't throwing people

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Speaker 1: off the plane for no reason. We're not talking to

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Speaker 1: the good people, or rather, we're talking to the good people.

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Speaker 1: We're not calling out the good people. I've got two

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Speaker 1: kids in public school here in Tennessee. Our schools have

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Speaker 1: been phenomenal, and my oldest went to public school until

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Love the teachers, and many

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Speaker 1: of them are as frustrated by Randy Weingarten and their

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Speaker 1: profession being held hostage by these teachers unions as the

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Speaker 1: rest of us are. And Buck, the larger context in

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Speaker 1: which you're talking, I think we've got audio from Obama

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Speaker 1: one of the challenges. And Obama should know this, right

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Speaker 1: because you whatever you want to say about Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: he's not a very smart man period. He also is

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Speaker 1: not in control of his mental faculties. But any warrior

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Speaker 1: who has been trained at a decent law school understands

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Speaker 1: that one of the most difficult things to do is

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Speaker 1: define what speech is appropriate and what speech is inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: So I'm disappointed that Obama would try to now jump

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Speaker 1: now us Buck, we've been talking about, Hey, what is

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Speaker 1: the theme of the midterms going to be for the Democrats?

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Speaker 1: As they try and avoid this red wave. One of

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Speaker 1: the arguments they're going to make is elections aren't fair

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Speaker 1: because there's so much disinformation in our country. What is disinformation, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's facts that make the other side uncomfortable frequently, is

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Speaker 1: how that's defined. Here's Obama talking about this. I understand

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Speaker 1: it's not necessary for people to believe this information. In

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Speaker 1: order to weaken democratic institutions, you just have to flood

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Speaker 1: a country's public scrip with another lawsuite. You just have

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Speaker 1: to raise enough questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theorizing that citizens no longer know what to believe once

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Speaker 1: they lose trust in their leaders, the mainstream media, and

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Speaker 1: political institutions in each other. In the possibility of truth,

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Speaker 1: the age one. We have lost faith in these institutions

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. And first, let me say it's right

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Speaker 1: to lose faith in many of the institutions that Obama's

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Speaker 1: bemoaning right now. Right. The two reasons are they failed

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Speaker 1: us and they are essentially provinces of the left. So

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Speaker 1: it is the right thing to lose faith in many

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Speaker 1: of these whether it's the public health apparatus or social

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Speaker 1: media companies as entities that promote free speech, or corporations

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Speaker 1: as neutral entities that are just trying to get the

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Speaker 1: bottom line to be as strong as possiblement that's just

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Speaker 1: not true. And so there's only journalism as somehow nonpartisan, unbiased.

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Speaker 1: You look at these things, the loss of faith in

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Speaker 1: these institutions is the result of truth, not disinformation. And

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, at some level, I think, must know that

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Speaker 1: this is really, though, just about trying to shape the

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Speaker 1: narrative so that it doesn't affect their power in a

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Speaker 1: negative way. They are going into an election where they

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Speaker 1: know they got nothing, and all the results that are

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Speaker 1: traceable to Democrat decision making have not just been poor,

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Speaker 1: they've been misery inducing for people. And what we can't control,

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Speaker 1: buck is what anybody else says, right, Democrats, Republicans, independence, governor, senators,

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Speaker 1: congress people. What we can control on this show is

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Speaker 1: we are going to come to you every day for

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Speaker 1: three hours fifteen hours every week, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: share lots of opinions. But what we have pledged from

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Speaker 1: the get go is we're gonna get our facts right.

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Speaker 1: And so I understand you mentioned the fact that people

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Speaker 1: and they got health related concerns to take care of.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to be well informed. I think, maybe harder

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Speaker 1: to be well informed as a citizen than ever before,

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Speaker 1: because there's so much noise and it's hard to know

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Speaker 1: what matters, and it's hard to know why it matters.

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Speaker 1: That's our job. That's what we're trying to do for

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Speaker 1: three hours every single day. So if you're out there

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Speaker 1: and you just feel frustrated and you feel like you

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Speaker 1: want to throw your hands up, and I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you do, we understand you. We feel that,

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Speaker 1: and that is why we are trying every single day

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Speaker 1: to be as honest and transparent and truthful with you

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Speaker 1: as we can sharing our opinions. And we're not always

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Speaker 1: going to agree on opinions, we understand that. But what

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Speaker 1: we're going to do is get our facts right and

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Speaker 1: understand that the marketplace of ideas is important. So that

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Speaker 1: is what we're pledging to do for you guys, and

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Speaker 1: I hope we're delivering. As we come up on a

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Speaker 1: full year taking over for Rush Limbaugh, who obviously was

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Speaker 1: a legend. The latest report on inflation growth is concerning.

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Speaker 1: Inflation is growing at a rate of eight point five

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Speaker 1: percent already. That means you're saved dollars. The dollars you're

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Speaker 1: spending are going to be worth eight point five percent

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Speaker 1: You're rolling through the Friday at edition. Open up phone

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Speaker 1: your calls throughout the course of today's program. Bucket, We've

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Speaker 1: been having fun with CNN Plus, which closed yesterday about

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Speaker 1: this is according to Bobby Barak, who writes an OutKick

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Speaker 1: and by the way, twenty four year old kid doing

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Speaker 1: phenomenal work. And if you at all are interested in

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Speaker 1: somebody who is saying in an insane world, he does

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Speaker 1: a really good job covering media. He just wrote this

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Speaker 1: at at OutKick, according to I'm reading from his article.

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Speaker 1: According to two individuals with knowledge, top CNN officials recently

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Speaker 1: met with Keith Olberman about a role at CNN. But

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Speaker 1: can you think of a more that this is just

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Speaker 1: kind of a fun parlor game. I'll let everybody else

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Speaker 1: out there also way in you can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and whatnot. Can you think of a worse higher

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Speaker 1: for CNN to make than Keith Olberman in terms of

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Speaker 1: trying to rebuild legitimacy and trust in their brand. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that I can think of anyone in media

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Speaker 1: that would be a dumber higher, which probably means CNN

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Speaker 1: is going to do it. I mean, they did hire

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Speaker 1: Elliot Spitzer after all that stuff happened, so well, they

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Speaker 1: still got Jeffrey Tubin. That's true. That's true. They will

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Speaker 1: make some pretty outrageous decisions, so it's not not at

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Speaker 1: all surprising. I do remember at the time, the rumor

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Speaker 1: was that it was actually MSNBC employees who were revolting

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Speaker 1: at the thought of bringing Olberman back there. But he's

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Speaker 1: he's no longer a person. Look, when you're the when

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Speaker 1: you're the tent pole, right, the immediate term for the

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Speaker 1: the you know, the big name, the eight PM who

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Speaker 1: bring a lot of viewers, and then that that holds

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Speaker 1: it up for everybody else. Right, when you're the ten

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Speaker 1: pole at MSNBC, that is something that is an influence, Right,

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Speaker 1: that is a person that is in the national conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think olber And shows you where I really mean

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Speaker 1: this where Leftism takes you being bitter, nasty, unfulfilled, and

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Speaker 1: just stroking cats that look like they belong to a

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Speaker 1: Bond villain, you know, Like I think that's maybe even

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Speaker 1: the hairless cat, you know, but I think that's where

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Speaker 1: it is. I just I can't think of a dumber

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Speaker 1: moved by them. By the way, speaking of the opposite

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Speaker 1: of this, we should have mentioned this yesterday. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize it. Do you know that Sean Hannity has now

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Speaker 1: been on air twenty five years at Fox News, and

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Speaker 1: that is the longest running cable news host in the

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Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody will ever beat that number

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Speaker 1: because it's so hard to get to, you know, five

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Speaker 1: years of doing a successful show. He hit twenty five

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Speaker 1: years yesterday. It's a new all time high in terms

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Speaker 1: of length of time that somebody's been on cable news.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I was I was a sophomore in high school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so when he started, I was, yeah, I was in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were like, you know, post grad studies, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. I mean I was just I

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Speaker 1: saw that yesterday and I was thinking, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know who you would point to now, Matt I'll tapped

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Speaker 1: out after a few years. She's not doing a nightly

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Speaker 1: show anymore. I mean there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: Rush went over thirty years on radio, but that longevity

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Speaker 1: is pretty impressive. And then you look it kind of

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Speaker 1: we're talking about how crazy Keith Olberman is, but some

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Speaker 1: of these people, they truly get driven insane. I legitimately

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Speaker 1: believe that Keith Olberman is insane. Now, like that's not

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Speaker 1: even hyperbole from me. I think that he has lost

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Speaker 1: his marbles. I think that he is almost unable to

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Speaker 1: think rationally as an adult. Yeah, I think when your

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Speaker 1: entire life just becomes your brand and self obsession, you

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Speaker 1: lose touch with a lot of things that make us

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Speaker 1: all normal and and people able to understand and connect

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Speaker 1: with others on a level beyond one of my ratings.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Jimmy Fallon actually had Yeah, I saw

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Speaker 1: this a pretty funny Jimmy of the of the late

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Speaker 1: night comedians. I correct me if you think it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch that stuff, so I only see clips, right,

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Speaker 1: I'll see eclips here and there. Jimmy Fallon has never

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Speaker 1: struck me as mean spirited in the jokes. You know,

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Speaker 1: he may be a liberal, but I haven't seen nasty

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Speaker 1: jokes from him compared to the way I have from

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Speaker 1: the like Colbert and Albert. By the way, do you

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Speaker 1: see he had COVID I don't think we mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: but thanks to the fact that he is double boosted

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Speaker 1: and double vaxed, he's gonna be He's grateful, he said.

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Speaker 1: This is his official statements. He's grateful to be vaxed

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Speaker 1: and boosted. You must genuflect to Fauci, the high priest

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Speaker 1: of Covidianism. But here is Jimmy. Is my assessment of Fallon, right,

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Speaker 1: would you say? I think? I think Jimmy Fallon has

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Speaker 1: always seemed to me and he really got dragged I

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Speaker 1: think in a way that the other guys didn't because

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Speaker 1: he's just very life, lighthearted and effervescent. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good light. Like he's trying to do comedy and

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Speaker 1: make people feel a little bit lighter and better at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. I mean, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you know, like when he did that interview with Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and he rubbed his area and everybody was furious

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Speaker 1: at him, and then Colbert had some success and everybody

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Speaker 1: just decided, oh, we have to go into that, into

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Speaker 1: that political space. I think he fits in it really poorly.

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Speaker 1: Here is fallen, by the way, with a joke at CNN,

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Speaker 1: And if you haven't heard, today, it was announced that

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Speaker 1: the streaming service CNN Plus is shutting down just thirty

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Speaker 1: two days after it launched. That's right, Snon Plus is gone,

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Speaker 1: which means in six months it'll be turned into his

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Speaker 1: spirit Halloween Plus. Thirty two days. Oh my god, I've

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Speaker 1: had avocados that last longer than Yeah. I was doing

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Speaker 1: so badly. All they had to do is call their

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Speaker 1: one subscribe to like, hey, Doug, and we're not going

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Speaker 1: to do this. That's pretty amazing. I would also say

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Speaker 1: it is the case that that Zucker who was ousted

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Speaker 1: just a couple of months ago, this was his project,

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Speaker 1: his vision, and he's a guy who just got very

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Speaker 1: far by being in the right place at the right

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Speaker 1: time on what was it, The Today Show? And then

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Speaker 1: they let him run CNN. They let it. They've CNN's

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Speaker 1: brand is damaged, I think permanently for anybody that cares

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Speaker 1: about truth and objectivity. They became the anti Trump network,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious, and they became propaganda shills for the

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Speaker 1: Democrat party without any ballast, that without any real attempt

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Speaker 1: at balance, and that comes with consequences. Apparently three hundred

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Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of them. It's the least, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the biggest failure given time, because there's obviously been multi

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Speaker 1: year collapses that are worse. But I don't think three

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in the history of media has ever

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Speaker 1: been wasted more rapidly than what we saw with CNN. Plus,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anything that comes that comes close.

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Speaker 1: Here is Axios's media reporter on the collapse of CNN.

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Speaker 1: There was this mover effort to stake a claim over

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Speaker 1: CNN's future post merger. There was a fear that if

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Speaker 1: they didn't launch this, then the future of CNN's digital

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Speaker 1: strategy would belong to Discovery and not the folks at CNN.

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Speaker 1: There is also this quird question of what do you

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Speaker 1: do about the seven hundred people you hired if you

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Speaker 1: hire them to create all this content to create a

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Speaker 1: service it never even launches. It's a massive morale problem

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Speaker 1: internally anytime I try to do something moving forward. So

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Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you that there was some politics involved,

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Speaker 1: and then there was also just some concerns about how

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Speaker 1: does this look politically with employees. Meanwhile, up on CNN right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that pretty much has this whole thing is

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Speaker 1: a collapse. It's it's crazy, I mean, and CNN look,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really a caretaker role for both the for

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Speaker 1: the for the hosts, for the management over there. CNN

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Speaker 1: was something that was created and successfully in the eighties,

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Speaker 1: nineties and through the early two thousands, and it is

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Speaker 1: heading in the wrong direction by the way they've launched

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Speaker 1: the CDC. This is on CNN right now, Clay launches

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Speaker 1: new forecasting center to be like the National Weather Service

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Speaker 1: for infectious disease. We're now going to have the CDC

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Speaker 1: harassing us with what you think the virus could go up,

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Speaker 1: could go down, could be in the middle, not too warm. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this reminds me of remember you will certainly remember it

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Speaker 1: because you were in the CIA, But when we were

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Speaker 1: going to get the color alerts for how dangerous terror

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Speaker 1: attacks were, it was not one of the Bush administrations

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Speaker 1: better moments. I will say that was not Does that

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Speaker 1: still exist? I don't even know if the colors because

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Speaker 1: everyone's walking around like it's an orange day. What am

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Speaker 1: I supposed to do. Yeah, well, what do you want

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Speaker 1: me to do? Orange Day? Yeah? More because the thing

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Speaker 1: people say, well, it's for government readiness, all right, Well

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Speaker 1: then have it be like a government internal memo. But

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Speaker 1: we don't need I don't need to be all worried

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Speaker 1: about my orange. They look at the public hysteria over masks,

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Speaker 1: you think it's it's definitely not helpful to tell everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know. Any reason why I bring it up is

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Speaker 1: hopefully this CDC platform is going to go that way, right,

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Speaker 1: I can already in my head see like, are people

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Speaker 1: gonna care next year about the CDC's analysis of viral

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Speaker 1: viral threats? Especially because they get everything wrong anyway. They're

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Speaker 1: they're like economist buck. They're good at telling you what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen after it's already happened. They can be like,

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Speaker 1: well this is what man. Even then they're still kind

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Speaker 1: of making it up. But the data they can use,

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Speaker 1: but they almost never get things right in advance. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you one bit of happy news for everybody.

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Speaker 1: So CNN plus lasted a month. Philadelphia's mask mandate lasted

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Speaker 1: four dates. Really funny. To solve COVID, they put the

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Speaker 1: masks on bucket. It just went away way. Yeah, come

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