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Speaker 1: Jamie and guess what what? Wait? Shall we say it together? One? Two, three?

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Speaker 1: We're going on tour that'll sink in the ad eventually.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that, but with more enthusiasm because we're very excited.

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Speaker 1: We haven't gone on to work in three human years.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty one dog years. Wow, that's so true. I

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Speaker 1: few seconds. But for now, we're going to just tell

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Speaker 1: you some preliminary facts about the tour. It's on the

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Speaker 1: So we're starting in Los Angeles Ever heard of it?

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Speaker 1: With a show on January at the Alesion Theater the

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Speaker 1: because it's and it is a dog coming of age movie.

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Speaker 1: It is a goofy movie. We've got been getting requests

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Speaker 1: cover a goofy movie. We can't wait, a coming of

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Speaker 1: age dog movie. Can you believe it? Can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: Then we are going to be scooting scooting on up

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Speaker 1: on foot I believe Caitlin and I will be hiking. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's why there's a bit of a gap all the

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Speaker 1: way to San Francisco for San Francisco Sketch Festival. We've

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Speaker 1: done it before. If you've been before, come out again.

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Speaker 1: That's on February one. And where is that, Caitlin. That's

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Speaker 1: covering George of the Jungle. Sorry, sorry, sorry, George, George

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Speaker 1: We're going to be covering the Goonies. And then at

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Speaker 1: nine pm, Caitlin, what did tell me more? Okay? Also,

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Speaker 1: this is on February twod oh ship, did I not

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Speaker 1: say that? Groundhog Day? But don't think about the movie

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Speaker 1: groundhog Day because that has nothing to do with our tour.

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Speaker 1: We covered that, we did it already. Sorry bitch. Six

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Speaker 1: It is a surprise mystery guest and a surprise mystery movie.

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Speaker 1: to one, come to both, come to both. None of

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Speaker 1: my business, but it will be different, different shows. And

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Speaker 1: then finally we are scooting on up, continuing our journey

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Speaker 1: on foot to Seattle. And on February five, we're doing

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Speaker 1: the Goonies again because guess what, it's hard work to

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest Classics. And so if you're in Seattle, come

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Speaker 1: everybody again. Um, we will have merch for you. We

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Speaker 1: it's been eighty four years since it's been eighty four years,

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Speaker 1: really makes you think. So what you're gonna do is

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Speaker 1: go to our link tree, which is it's always so

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Speaker 1: Ho ho ho, Jamie, No, you can't say that anymore.

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Speaker 1: never retire, is my takeaway. That is exactly what this

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Speaker 1: show is about. Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jamie Loftis, my name is Caitlin Darante, and this

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Speaker 1: Becktel cast history. We said we'd never do it. But

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Speaker 1: But what were we gonna do not cover the Santa Clauses?

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, yeah, good luck, thank you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go episode by episode. Did you say the episode titles too?

424
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Speaker 1: Because I have a question right away, which is why

425
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Speaker 1: is the first episode called good to Ho? Well? Why

426
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: is it called good to Ho? Grace? You have a

427
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: the insight it's because I gasped. It's basically what happened

428
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: is we had to cut a subplot that would have

429
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: dealt with really tastefully. Despite the term in the title,

430
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: it would have really tastefully dealt with, Like it was

431
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: mostly about like reindeer sex work in the North Pool,

432
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: and so it wasn't aware And so while that that's

433
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: a derogatory term, it was in there because some of

434
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: the characters we're using it and by the end of

435
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: the episode learned, Oh, that's not good for me to do.

436
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I mean that's actually helpful because what

437
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: remains is a little baffling because in that the space

438
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: of that episode, you know, you see the episode title

439
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: good to how and you you're in your mind, you're like,

440
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: this show is for five to eight year old why

441
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: would they title Why would they title that for adults?

442
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: You know? And then later in the episode and Elf,

443
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: who's a doctor, has the same phrase written on a

444
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: tape measure. Yeah. Yeah, again. I think before we took

445
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: out this like really thought provoking subplot, a lot of

446
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: that would have made sense. And in fact, I think

447
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: taking out that subplot makes a lot of this. I

448
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: think that's my biggest regret of what we did on

449
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: the show. Mainly because when you're rewatching it, you know,

450
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: which I'm sure you will very rewatch whenever you see

451
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: a reindeer, doesn't that reindeer look like it's just came?

452
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: And because we got off the subplot you're my best friend,

453
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: we don't know what I say. Every time after I come,

454
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: that's usually what I will say. Yeah, because we cut

455
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: out that subplot, we don't share the reindeers fucking at all. Yeah,

456
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: but the reindeers are acting like when Steve says, look,

457
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he says, it's so weird. It's

458
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: not just the ghost of John Wayne Gacy played by

459
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: Cuba Gooding Jr. It's also because, oh, he's tired. He's

460
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: been going at it. Yeah, he's huffing and puffing. Wow,

461
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: it's true. And just one last thing before I didn't

462
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: find this out for the entire time I was watching

463
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: all Avatar's worth of this. Um Sandra is played by

464
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Tim Allen's actual daughter. Oh did not realize that either, Yeah, yes, okay,

465
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: they met on set. Well, I think we have all

466
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the information we need, all the context we need to

467
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: to dive in. So episode one, good to ho it's

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Santa Scott Calvin Santa who we know in

469
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: of from the first three movies. He's out delivering gifts

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00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: with his elf friend Noel. Uh. He reflects on how

471
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: it's been twenty eight years since he's been Santa Claus.

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00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: But oh no, his Santa magic falters a bit. He

473
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: returns to the North Pole. We meet head Elf Betty

474
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: and some of the other else. Looks like Kara Delavine

475
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: got hit with a shrink ray. Yes, oh god, she

476
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: looks like baby Kara del Vine. I know she's also

477
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: on Station eleven, but I haven't seen that show, so

478
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought baby Kara de la Vine. Anyways, so maybe

479
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: First Woman had alf ever progressive Tim could not have

480
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: been happy about Can you just consider that going? Like

481
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: you just remember that that we did that? Really cool?

482
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Really cool? Yeah, it was good. So she and some

483
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: of the other Elves and Mrs Claus are all concerned

484
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: about Santa's magic and how it isn't working properly. The

485
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: woke mob is that? I mean that was I assume

486
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: it was political correctness was taking away from the magic

487
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: of of Scott's Christmas. Right. Well, you've seen the end

488
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: of the of the season, which very clearly doesn't answer

489
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: what was happening, and we did that intentionally, so it

490
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: looks like it's the jacket, it's the witch, it's the orb.

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00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: You really can't say we were saying political correctness was

492
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: doing that to Santa's magic because the ending is so

493
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: intentionally unclear that you just simply can't say that. And

494
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: that's how you get a second season. Honey, exactly, answering,

495
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: no question. Yeah, the SAX season is going to deal

496
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: with that at all. But yes, yeah, okay, So they

497
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: think that this loss of Christmas magic is happening because

498
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: not enough children around the world believe in or need

499
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: Santa Claus anymore. So Santa is like, well, I guess

500
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I'd better work harder to try to be a better Santa,

501
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: and I need to gain weight, and so there's a

502
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: whole montage of him trying to gain weight and do

503
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: some other things to try to be a better Santa,

504
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: more like I have the Santa Tiger. Yes, yes, exactly, yeah,

505
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I think notably. You know, we had Santa crack a

506
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: couple of eggs, raw eggs into a glass and then

507
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: pour them over a bunch of candy and chocolate and

508
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: a blender pretty funny. I love that. I mean that

509
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: visual story that was really really funny. That's comedy. I

510
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: mean that is I think a joke that is just

511
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of in the American lexicon. Now it is from

512
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: now on herd A. Yes, So we see this montage

513
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: where he's trying to be a better Santa, which is

514
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: mostly him eating candy, and this is all happening as

515
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the year passes and we approached the next Christmas. Also,

516
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 1: Santa and Mrs Claus have two kids. Their son cal

517
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: a k A Buddy Calvin Claus who was he born

518
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: in one of the movies. Yeah, he was born at

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00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: the end of Santa Claus three Antilus three. Okay, right,

520
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get Carol something I do, as Tim would say.

521
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: So there's cal Buddy, and then there's also their daughter Sandra.

522
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: So the next Christmas rolls around, Santa is not excited

523
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: about Christmas as he used to be. The spirit is

524
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: just in general down. Meanwhile, cal Penn, whose name is

525
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: something like Simon something Simon chocks. Yes, but he's he's

526
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of a he's kind of a Jeff Bezos type.

527
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: But and Grace, I thought this was a really really

528
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: smart choice. What if we were voting for Jeff Bezos

529
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: as if he was an underdog, and I had never

530
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: thought of it that way, And now I feel so

531
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: freaking bad for things I've said over the years. How

532
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: dare you? Yeah, it's it's really I think with the

533
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: character of cow Pens character. And again, you guys made

534
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: up the name for him on the spot. We never

535
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: we never gave him a name. We wanted to do

536
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of like a spoken word but with visuals of

537
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: where capitalism is at in our country right now. And

538
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: I think what we say is it's at a pretty

539
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: good place. Yeah, well, I think we can all agree

540
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: with that. And I'm sure that you know, the cow

541
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Pens of the world need to say sorry, the cow

542
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: Pens character of the world. Mean, yeah, I think that's

543
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: really true. I think you know, there's so many things happening.

544
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: It's Oh, he runs this big company that has six

545
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: percent of the market share, which seems a lot of

546
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: the market. Um, and he's like made a bunch of

547
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: successful video games, but now he wants to be Amazon.

548
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Amazon still exists in this world too, and everyone's and

549
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: apparently he has to go to a venture capital fir

550
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: him to get more funds even though he's already very successful. Yeah,

551
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: and his daughter doesn't seem like she goes to school.

552
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: It seems like she goes to the venture capital firm. Yes,

553
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: as well, she's his assistant. Yeah, yes, yes, And I

554
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: think that raises a lot of questions. I think everything

555
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: I just said raises a lot of questions. And I

556
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: think America should ask themselves the questions and provide the

557
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: answers themselves, and that will help us as a country

558
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: find our soul again. If I have hubris, if if

559
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I provided the answers to these questions about cow Pen's character,

560
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I would basically be saying, this is what's wrong, and

561
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: this is how to fix the economy. That's not your responsibility,

562
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to do that. And it's

563
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: such a classic Christmas tale, you know, to really quickly

564
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: and automatically forgive the ostensible villain of the story by

565
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: just reminding people that he had a dead not just

566
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: a dead wife, but a dead wife who existed in

567
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: an entirely different aspect ratio as the rest of the show. Yes, yes, yes,

568
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: she existed cow Pens modern life. That was that one

569
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: of your creative choices, Grace yeah, I want to I movie.

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Right before we put that episode up, I changed she

571
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: real quick, right live. Yeah, I think he could have

572
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: gone Ken Burns, but I appreciated the artistic choice was

573
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: in Ken in the fact that would be so just slowly.

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I think another great thing we were able to do

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00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: with that character is you're supposed to root for him

576
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: up until all of a sudden he's the most evil

577
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: man to ever be in the North Pole, and then

578
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: you're supposed to root for him again. And that is

579
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: much like life, and that's just good writing. I would say,

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00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: um So cal Pen he's the CEO of an Amazon

581
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: like company called Everything Now, but the companies in trouble

582
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: because of their system of delivering packages being really shitty.

583
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: They're they're bad drones, bad drones. When the drones go

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00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: to the North Pole, they have gunn and they're good

585
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and they're like very competent drones, which is I just

586
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: thought that was a fun call back to um the

587
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: aggressive militarization that Scott Calvin put in place in the Pole,

588
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: because it wasn't extremely militarized before Scott, you know, was

589
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: not elected, took control, rested control of the North Pole.

590
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: He does you know, run a little bit of a

591
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: tight ship up there, and he's you know, the elves

592
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: are militarized, always have been, and you know now we've

593
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: outsourced that work to the drones. And I think that

594
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: that's really um responsible, I mean art imitating life much Yeah,

595
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: um okay. So then the episode ends on the following

596
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, Santa is out delivering gifts, but he falls

597
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: off of a roof and maybe he's dead. That was, again,

598
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: just a really alarming way to end the pilot episode.

599
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Is killing Tim Allen? Okay, I thought it was upset.

600
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: Here's what here's the direction I thought the show was

601
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: going to go in, So Grace, maybe you have an

602
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: explanation for why what was clearly being set up never

603
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: ends up happening. Where So there's a moment in episode

604
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: one that I didn't mention, but cal pen he's like

605
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: all stressed out because his company sucks. He goes outside,

606
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: he looks up into the sky and he sees Santa

607
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: like teleporting and he's like, if Santa can do it,

608
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: so can I not paid off? On? So, I thought

609
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: the show was going to set up that cal Penn's

610
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: character was going to try to kill Santa to take

611
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: over his spot as Santa. But that doesn't happen. Someone

612
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: could have told him that Santa Claus, and then that

613
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: would have been he would have been a really scary villain.

614
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: It kind of would have been cool. Well, we didn't

615
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: really want to make a cool show. We wanted to

616
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: make a heartwarming show, right, so you can't really make

617
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: a warm show that's cool. Wow, those are two ends

618
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: of a spectrum, that's right. That that just doesn't add up,

619
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Speaker 1: you know. Surprisingly enough, on set, Cal was constantly trying

620
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: to kill Tim Outen in real life because I assume

621
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: that's why he took the job. When he when he

622
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: took the job, he thought he was going to end

623
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: the season as Santa, and when he found out he wasn't,

624
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: he was very, very angry. So he got it in

625
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: his head that if he killed Tim, he he would

626
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: then become Santa in the show. And I kept saying, Cal,

627
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: put the gun down, put the gun down, That's not

628
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: how it works. But he just kept at it. He

629
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: just kept at it. I can't believe we finished. He's

630
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: a bad shot. He's just a bad shot, you know.

631
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: I think maybe he's shooting at Tim. Hell. Yeah, yeah,

632
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: I think he. I think cal might be uh might

633
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: be h token up a little bit too much like

634
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: like his famous like his famous President Obama. Yeah, like

635
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: President Obama. Yeah, like his his hero. Okay, Okay, I

636
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: would just like to say Tim loved it. Okay, Tim

637
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: loved the excitement. And also the other thing that he

638
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: loved is one of those bullets killed his friend who

639
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: he had the blood game bit with. So after episode four,

640
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: Tim was free. Um, and that's why it gots really

641
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: really good around u. Yeah. And that's about the time

642
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: that him and Kel you know, made up. Okay, and

643
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: it shows, it shows on screen. Yeah. Okay. Episode two

644
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: the successes clause. Actually, let's take another quick break and

645
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: then we will come back for more recap and we're back. Okay.

646
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: So we are at episode two. Santa, having just fallen

647
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: off the roof, is lying in the snow. But don't worry,

648
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: he's not dead. He was low key falling off and

649
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: then he fell off of the roof. Yeah. So he

650
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: returns to the North and Elf Betty is like, look,

651
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: let me tell you about something called the successes clause,

652
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: where if Santa doesn't want to be Santa anymore, he

653
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: can retire and choose a successor, and Mrs Claus really

654
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: likes this idea of him retiring, and Betty and some

655
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: of the other elves think it's a good idea too,

656
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: because they've been noticing his magic faltering, you know, Christmas

657
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: spirits down, all that stuff. I just want to jump

658
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: in really quick and say that what I really liked

659
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: how Carol's arc, which it really builds up to a

660
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: call back to the Santa Claus too that I forgot

661
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: about where she fights large nutcrackers but toy soldiers. Sorry,

662
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: my bad, that's my political correctness. Get But Carol, her

663
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: whole thing is that she the'se uh you know, I

664
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: think that a lot of people will say falls into

665
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of empty girl bos stereotypes, but I didn't view

666
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: it that way at all. She's just like, you know,

667
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: she's slowly forgetting who she was in her earlier life,

668
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: and so she's kind of just like walking around yelling

669
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: about that for about four episodes before anything really demonstrably changes.

670
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: And I thought that was, you know, felt much like life. Yeah,

671
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this show is very slice

672
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: of life, or when you peel back, most of the

673
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: layers are a bit of a modern family. Yeah, a

674
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: bit of a post modern family even. Wow, well holy,

675
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: that is why they pay you the big box. Yes,

676
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: that was good. This is why they paid me. They

677
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: were going to pay me a lot of money, which

678
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: is good because that my salary was big enough so

679
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: that when I when I said to forego it, we

680
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: were able to purchase the right side of the Tiger. Right.

681
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: I was like, that's big books that I wish I

682
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: could give my kids at Christmas this year. But you know,

683
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: I have the Tiger. I think worth it. I think.

684
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: So Santa has the idea to retire but still be

685
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: able to stay in the North Pole. And how that's

686
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: going to work is he's going to have his son,

687
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Charlie be his successor. So he visits Charlie in Florida.

688
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: There's a fun little Jurassic Park reference there, but Charlie

689
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it. He's an adult now and

690
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: he has a his wife and kids, and she's and

691
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: let me just say though, I think I found Charlie's

692
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: wife to be maybe maybe a bit trill, But you know,

693
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, women be

694
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: like that. Women famously be trill. So that tracks it's

695
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: so interesting that you read that character as his wife.

696
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, the intention they are two best friends platonically

697
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: raising kids together. Okay, incredibly close minded of me. I'm

698
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: so sorry. They're in a platonic marriage, so like legally

699
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: it is his wife, but sexually, emotionally, they wouldn't use

700
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: those terms, you know, for each other. And this is

701
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: actually huge because Charlie in this episode is the first

702
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: ever gay Disney character who is married to a woman

703
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: that he that he's only had sex with. Twis wow,

704
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: to have those children, I have the kids, have the kids.

705
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: So much all about Charlie. But the man makes his shocked,

706
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that that's to be applauded.

707
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I think that's that's incredible. Congratulations on making history in

708
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: the Santa class. That's to saying, since a closet, I'm

709
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: so sorry. Yeah, And I thought again, I'm like bringing

710
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: my you know, everyman brain to to my viewing experience.

711
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, for sure, Charlie's this is gonna

712
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: be the only scene he's going to be in, a

713
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: scene you could cut out, no problem, wouldn't matter. But

714
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't come back. He doesn't cut you know. And

715
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: I think that that's really cool that he he made

716
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: his decision he wanted to continue to peacefully co parent

717
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: in Florida, and and and bless him, and we didn't

718
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: hear from him again. It doesn't seem like, you know,

719
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: like many of Tim Allen's kids, that doesn't seem like

720
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: they really keep in touch. Wasn't there a little girl

721
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: from maybe Santa Claus three that was like his not stepdaughter?

722
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was it Charlie's stepsister's. Oh yeah, right. Anyway,

723
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: so Scott Calvin is like, oh, well, if Charlie doesn't

724
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: want to become Santa Claus, maybe my other her son,

725
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: Cal will want to become Santa Claus. But cal doesn't

726
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: want to either, and neither Cal nor Sandra too busy

727
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: playing all those damn video games. I love that arc

728
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: for him. A lot of people, I think, thought that

729
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: the VR helmet was just like a a prop used

730
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: in in promotional images to just show that he was

731
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: this techy guy. But no, it's in every It's in

732
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: every episode. It really is. We use it a lot.

733
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: That's kind of his whole thing. And how he's able

734
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: to replace the VR in front of his face with

735
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: a woman, which is you know, I mean those two things. Yeah,

736
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: another game for him to play. I love giving the game.

737
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: So so Cal doesn't want to be Santa Claus, and

738
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: neither Cal nor Sandra really like living in the North Pole,

739
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: so they're also pro their dad retiring. Meanwhile, Christmas spirit

740
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: continues to dwindle around the world, and this is something

741
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: that they know because there's this like Christmas orb that

742
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the brighter it shines, the more Christmas spirit there is,

743
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: the doller and darker it is, the less Christmas Spirit

744
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: there is. However, something I notice is, no matter how

745
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: little Christmas Spirit there seems to be, the orb always

746
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: looks the exact same. It doesn't seem to be getting

747
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: any darker or lighter. Was this another creative choice or

748
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: the effect? Basically? You you you seem to have misunderstood

749
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: the entire I'm sorry, Yes, it's it's multiple times it

750
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: says it's about the brightness. But one time Betty or

751
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: Cara Delvin, it was and she was played by Kara.

752
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: We got Kara that is like Martin Scorsese, like age technology.

753
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: How did you do that? We cut her up real good?

754
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh you mean like cosmetic surgery. Yeah, we meet her

755
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: legs real short or would it be claus metic surgery? Yeah, okay,

756
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: am I am. I still in the running for a

757
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: job on season two. You've got it. It's really it's

758
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: really hard not to get piste off about this as

759
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: it's happening. Ye. Sorry, Jamie, I don't mean to be gloating. No,

760
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: it's all good. She at one point says that she's like, look,

761
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: there's a black hole in the center and it's getting bigger.

762
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: So really, I think it's if you notice the whole

763
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: gets slightly bigger and then all of a sudden it's

764
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: just gone. Yeah. I think there's just like some miscommunication.

765
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: But also that is life, So we left it in

766
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: there because it is a slice of life, and magic

767
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: works much like life, of course, and the acting clearly

768
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: telegraphed it because every time someone picked up the ORB

769
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: they would say something like oh no, and you're like, well, okay,

770
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: now I understand that's how I'm supposed to feel. That's

771
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: a bad way for the ORB to look. Even at

772
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: one point when Nol is hiding it behind his hand

773
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: and then he reveals it, it kind of looks fine,

774
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: it looks the same. Well, he's got he's flashing it.

775
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: He's got a flashlight, but even when he takes a

776
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: flashlight away, it still looks the exact same. Remember why

777
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: that couldn't be the case because we have the absolutely

778
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: iconic closing shot of episode three where it's like ninety

779
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: second straight of just looking at the orb And are

780
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: you telling me nothing had happened this during that? Are

781
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: you telling me it doesn't get darker during those ninety seconds?

782
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: Are you telling me we're looking at essentially a static

783
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: or with nothing happening for for a minute. I don't

784
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: think I would have that happened on my television show.

785
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: And I respect I mean all all of the you know,

786
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: ununionized and disrespected VR artists who had to work on

787
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: this show. You know, you can see that they certainly

788
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: brought it to the intro the opening credits because Caitlin

789
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: and I were saying back and forth it was kind

790
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: of like body horror. I think that it was the

791
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: genre I would put the opening credits in. But it

792
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: was fascinating. It was beautiful visual feast. I mean, like

793
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: the c g I artists, are they not unionized? That's true,

794
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: but you said there disrespected, and I just don't. I

795
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: just don't think that's the case, because Tim and his

796
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: friends every time that they ran into the c g

797
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: I artists would be you like, you know, good yet

798
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: hot pair of shoulders on you. Oh, very complimentary. Yeah,

799
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: it's like, is that sexual? I don't know, it's shoulders like,

800
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that was just a

801
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: nice thing to say. I don't know, it's shoulder pointed.

802
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: And that's a classic Hollywood phrase. You hear you hear

803
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: that around all the time. You've got good shoulders on

804
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: your shoulders. Yeah. Okay, So Santa Claus two sides to

805
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: officially retire for the sake of his family. He wants

806
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: to spend more time with his family and he announces

807
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: this to his elves. They all throw a fit. Meanwhile,

808
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: cal Penn is still trying to figure out a way

809
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: to solve his company's package delivery problem, and he wants

810
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: to see if he can figure out a way to

811
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: recreate Santa's delivery system. And then one of the elves

812
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: e d I believe it's her name, goes to cal

813
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Pen and abducts him and his daughter Grace and brings

814
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: them to the North Pole. That's how episode two ends. Yeah,

815
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: fun okay. Episode three entitled Into the Wobbly Woods. So

816
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: here we come. Here comes a plot which, oh yes,

817
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: so yes, Santa is packing up. He's gearing up to leave.

818
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: Cal Pen and his daughter Grace are now at the

819
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: North Pole. Santa interviews cal Pen because he is a

820
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: candidate to be a possible Santa replacement, as is who

821
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: is that guy, Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning, Oh, come on,

822
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: that was hilarious, cal Sorry, it was pretty good. I

823
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: was cracking up. I understood every joke and referenced his

824
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: personal and public life. When he said, hey, don't let

825
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: my wife know, I was like, oh, yeah, that's Peyton Manning.

826
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: All right. What they just say? Did he cheat on

827
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: his wife? This is a serious question. Were they joking

828
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: about how he has cheated on his wife? What was

829
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: that joke? No, joke was about how he is very

830
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: devoted to his wife. Oh well, then I then I

831
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: was laughing for the right reasons. I just wanted to

832
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: make sure I wasn't thinking. And also, this Peyton Manning sequence,

833
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: by god, you could see you could see why this

834
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: man was the greatest stand up comedian of all time

835
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: because he was just so on the ball, like he

836
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: was so energy as that guy was, you know, he

837
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: must have ad lived one or two jokes even incredible.

838
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: My god, when he said Brady, I I stood up

839
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: and cheered, that's that Alan, magic baby. I was beside myself.

840
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, and it's kind of like,

841
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, as as a comedian myself, sometimes I can

842
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I find it really amazing to watch someone, you know,

843
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: working at that caliber. But then there are moments and

844
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: I think this was one of them where you just

845
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: it's almost like discouraging because you see that and you're

846
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: just like, well, I can ever do that? I mean,

847
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: what's the fucking point? You know? I got to see

848
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of getting to see to Tim

849
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, mentor some of the younger actors on set,

850
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: not actresses, just actors, and he was he was talking

851
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: to the kid we got playing his son, Calm, who

852
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: was also you know, getting in a stand up and

853
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: he said listen. He said, listen, listen, kid, this is

854
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: my number one tip about doing stand up comedy. And

855
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: the kid was like what and he goes, don't do it?

856
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: And that that was inspiring to me because he was

857
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: basically challenging this young man to not listen to him

858
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: and and prove himself by going out and doing it. Yeah.

859
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: And I've been seeing him at open mics, so yeah,

860
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: really not there he's doing it. Oh that's amazing. I

861
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: bet he has some good ideas, is would you say

862
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 1: that he's got like did Tim's politics rub off on him? Again?

863
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: I kind of you know, that'd be kind of awesome.

864
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we I I see the whole cast

865
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: every Sunday. I'll see them. We're recording on a Sunday,

866
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: so i'll see them later today. We're like, oh no

867
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: at our Romny planning meetings. Oh cool, I mean a

868
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: church can be anything, you know. Well yeah, well um,

869
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: So here's what happens next, is that the interview that

870
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Cal gives to be a new possible new Santa doesn't

871
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: go well. But then his daughter Grace gets lost or

872
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: they think that she's Steven though she's with Sandra. But

873
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Santa and Kalpen go looking for her in the Wobbly

874
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Woods and guests who lives there a Christmas witch Christmas Witch,

875
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: sorry not Christmas Switch, which is sort of like a

876
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: princess switch Christmas Witch, and she takes Santa and Kalpen

877
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: to her house, which is where Grace and Sandra are

878
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: because Sandra wanted to talk to the witch because Sandra

879
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: has just discovered that she can hear animals talk, which

880
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: is where we get the amazing iconic reindeer voiced by

881
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: John Wayne Gazy. Yeah. And uh and during this this

882
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, adventure in the Wobbly Woods, Santa realizes that

883
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: cal Pen actually should be Santa. He would make a

884
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: great Santa. And so he's like, Calpen, do it. And

885
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I'll do it. So and also, in

886
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: one of the many kind of feminist side quests that

887
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure Tim couldn't have been happy about, the Chris

888
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: I was really heartened to see it. Um, Sandra hangs

889
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: out with the Witch. This is not paid off on,

890
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: but it's just something for us to know that she

891
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: hangs out with the witch because her parents don't understand her. Well. Yeah. Also,

892
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: the Witch teaches her of about womanhood and like just

893
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: is a really important resource. The Witch is kind of

894
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: the planned parenthood of and she does have all the secrets, yeah,

895
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: all of the all of the tools and resources. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile,

896
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Mrs Claus has forgotten what everything she is, and she's

897
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: not really able to parent right now. She's yeah. Yeah,

898
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: so the Witch is kind of her mother and doctor

899
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: and everything, taking on all rules. I like. I liked

900
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: the Witch. Also, I just wanted to shout out in

901
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: episode three, Um, Caitlin, you pointed this out to me

902
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: in our text as one of your favorites, and I

903
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure you got the opportunity to

904
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: compliment Grace or the blood Quantum guy. I'm not really sure,

905
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: but U n f T s nutty fudgy tea cakes. Yes,

906
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: that was me. I mean, well play. I think n

907
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: f T s are just such a funny thing to

908
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: joke about and also a great investment. Not a lot

909
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: of things that are fun to joke about and also

910
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: a great investment. I would say pretty much, pretty much

911
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: just n f T s and healthy relationships. Wow, Damna

912
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: there there she goes again, blowing freaking mind. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

913
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: So now that Santa has found his replacement, he's like, okay,

914
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. The Elves give him a send off.

915
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: I think this is the elves just want to have

916
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: fun dance like break dancing. No, this is isn't it?

917
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Like last Christmas. Oh that's right, Okay, Oh yeah, another

918
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: expensive I think there's a total of three elve dancing

919
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: sequences because there's also a really menacing one in the

920
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: last episode where the elves are just coming slowly coming

921
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: towards the Calvin family and then they ell Satan instead

922
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: of Santa, which I did laugh at. And it's important

923
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: too because it just shows this is kind of knowls

924
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: big time to shine, who is Santa's best friend and

925
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: Mary to the head elf, and his kind of arc

926
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: is is realizing that, like he should spend more time

927
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: with his wife, mirroring Santra's arc I will say something

928
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: that's never worked for me in this franchise, as having

929
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: children pretend to be in centuries long marriages together. It's

930
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: just never quite hit for me. But I know people's

931
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: mileage will vary on that. Well, you know, we never

932
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: had marriage be a part of it until and Tell

933
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: the show, and we decided to have marriage be a

934
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: thing that we bring up constantly in the show. Um,

935
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: and I think it works. We'll never forget how in

936
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: the first movie, Scott Calvin says something to a child

937
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: playing an elf and then she thinks that he's hitting

938
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: on her, and she says, no, thanks, I'm seeing someone

939
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: in rapping. So yes, but marriage, yeah, health marriage was

940
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: legalized relatively recently at our north pool. That's kind of

941
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: their version of gay marriage now is still not a

942
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: thing up there? Okay, okay, yeah there, I mean there

943
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: are a couple of centuries behind. Yeah. Um okay. So

944
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Santa and his family leave, well, they're transported magically to

945
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Chicago to live their new non Santa lives, and that's

946
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: how episode three ends. Episode four entitled the Shoes Off

947
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: the Bed Claws, which is a reference to a throwaway

948
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: line that has nothing to do with anything. What is

949
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: that a reference to? I I struggled with that. So

950
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: there's a seat, Well if I made grace not to

951
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: explain your show in front of you. There's a moment

952
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: where Scott Calvin is talking to Carol and he's like,

953
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: my whole life has just been a or I guess

954
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: my career as Santa has been a series of clauses,

955
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: and so he's then he then recaps the first three

956
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: movies and then he's like, I don't even like he's

957
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: basically just conflicted about like his career at Santa, and

958
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: then also what he's supposed to do now, and she's like, well,

959
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: you still got the shoes off the bed clause because

960
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: they're sitting on a bed, and I guess he has

961
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: his shoes on, and I think that's her way of

962
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: telling him to get his shoes off the bed. That

963
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: was my interpretation. Can you confirm or deny see this

964
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: is dead, Grace? Well, I would say that that's all correct.

965
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: But if you if you call it a throwaway line,

966
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: my mistake. Not only do I think you don't get

967
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: the show, I don't don't. I don't think you get

968
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: how writing works. Hey, Grace, could I just say really quick,

969
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a throwaway line. I thought

970
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: it was important. I take full responsibility. Well, I think

971
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: that the ray that might have a for the for

972
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: a job on season two might have a a new

973
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: host of the Bechtel Desk in the leave. Okay, now

974
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: I should note that I'm just talking about the race

975
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: between you two. The broader race of writers were considering

976
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: mediard front. But when I got specifically, okay, so we're

977
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: like in a game of Mario Kart where we're neck

978
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: and eleven and twelfth place. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, And

979
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I get a couple of feet ahead. I mean,

980
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great analogy. You keep coming there

981
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: and you might almost get the job. Many I just

982
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get into Cal's head because he

983
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: loves video games so much, you know, because I just

984
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: love this. I just love this show. In the world

985
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: it builds, and the world it builds and then ignores

986
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: Wow brown noser. Okay, Okay, So what happens then, Caitlin,

987
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Okay. So episode four Shoes Off the

988
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Bed clause, we're at the North Pole. Kal Penn's character

989
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: is ready to put on the Santa coat and become

990
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: Santa Claus, but oh no, the Santa coat is missing.

991
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: He gives a speech to the elves Betty and Noel

992
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: again they're the married ones, hate this new Santa, and

993
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: Betty is all like, where is your coat? You ship head,

994
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't know, I lost it. And

995
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: then also he's like, I have an idea, what if

996
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 1: Christmas was every day, three d and sixty five days

997
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: a year, which I sort of was like, that was

998
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: an episode of The Fairly Odd Parents, But I appreciate it.

999
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of an homage to that. Yeah. Yeah,

1000
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: um in the universe of the Santa Claus is the

1001
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Fairly Odd Parents doesn't exist. Oh oh see, so that's

1002
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: why there's so many things that are different due to

1003
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: the global impact of The Fairly Odd Parents. Yes, the

1004
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: only the only um intellectual properties that exist in the

1005
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: Santa Claus universe are other Disney owned properties. So you know,

1006
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: there's a reference to Buzz Lightyear. There's many Star Wars references,

1007
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: there are many Marvel references, and I think that's brave. Yes,

1008
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: it was. It was a challenge given to us by

1009
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: the executives, and honestly they said, we well, we we

1010
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: did a little too much. And that made me feel

1011
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: really good. See I disagree. I uh, I could have

1012
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: used more. I heard tell that. There's a deleted scene

1013
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: where Scott Calvin's talking to a man in Chicago and

1014
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: the man says the phrase star Trek to him, and

1015
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: then Scott Calvin holds him against a wall and spits

1016
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: in his face and says, I don't know what you're

1017
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: fucking talking about, and then pushes him over. Is that true?

1018
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: That's not a scenely shot, but it is a thing

1019
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: that happened on a set. Okay, thank you, thank you God.

1020
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: These Hollywood gossap I mean and dumois, they really catch everything.

1021
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: It's wild. Yeah, Okay. In Chicago, Scott Calvin and his

1022
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: family are trying to adjust to their new lives. Sandra

1023
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: makes some friends. She also talks to a horse. I

1024
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: wanted her to have her. The girls are thriving in Chicago.

1025
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Sandra is a horse girl. It was really genuinely nice

1026
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: to see Carol be loved, appreciated and accepted by her

1027
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: community again. And I just wondered as I was watching.

1028
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but wonder, um, will this all be

1029
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: completely taken away from her in a matter of days? Yes, yes,

1030
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: it is true, and I think we all know that

1031
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 1: it is our responsibility, like we as women are here

1032
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: to have things taken from us. Is that good or bad?

1033
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: It just is just another question that the show poses.

1034
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: But it happens. It certainly happens. A woman's places at

1035
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: the pole. People have been saying that for generations. Um, okay,

1036
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: So yes, Sandra is making some friends. Some of them

1037
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: are with human girls, some of them are with horses.

1038
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: Cal he loves ordinary human stuff. He also has a

1039
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: crush on a girl from school, Carol is looking to

1040
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: get a job as a school principal again at a

1041
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: charter school, which I thought was a little fun dash

1042
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: of evil. M yeah, I mean, you know my kids

1043
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: go to charter schools. Took the lead again, me and

1044
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: the other some other parents in my neighborhood, mostly who

1045
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: wear can TV and film. We did not like that

1046
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: we couldn't completely control the elementary school, the public elementary

1047
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: school and all right, so we formed a charter school

1048
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: together with some of our own money and a lot

1049
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: of the government's money. It was pretty easy to get

1050
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: our hands on actually pretty much. Just our kids get

1051
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: to go to it. Kind of very exclusive. That's amazing

1052
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: and it really works for our family. Okay, okay, I

1053
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is what do you mean dash

1054
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: of evil? Oh no, I said dash of awesome. It's

1055
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: the Airpots dash of awesome. And then she wants to

1056
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: be the principle of charter school. What a dash of awesome? Yeah, yeah,

1057
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: that's like it's phrases like that that I could bring

1058
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 1: the season two. That's a real dash of awesome. That's great.

1059
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: I love that phrase. We're going to start using it

1060
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: all of the time. Maybe a good episode title dash

1061
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: of awesome. M m are you here? I don't even

1062
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to remember it now, don't worry.

1063
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: We're recording this. We're recording. Oh I forgot. I just

1064
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: really want to tell them that. But you know, it's

1065
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of funny because m hates that I wanted to

1066
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: send the kids to a charity school. They think that's bad.

1067
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: So relationships are tough, you know, And that's so much

1068
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: of what the show is about. Whether your elves or

1069
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: your Scott Calvin and Mrs Claws, who gives a ship

1070
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: with her first name is is where the show kind

1071
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: of lands. Yeah, exactly, or or or you're a very

1072
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: special elf that we're about to get to ca. Okay,

1073
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: so the rest of Scott Calvin's family is thriving in

1074
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: their new Chicago lives, but Scott Calvin is like, wow,

1075
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: I guess since I'm not Santa anymore, I'm not special.

1076
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: And then he ends up getting a job as an

1077
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: Everything Now delivery driver, but then he gets fired shortly thereafter,

1078
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: and so he's like, oh my gosh, what do I

1079
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: even do with my life now? In the North Pole,

1080
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: Betty and Noel are trying to stop Calpenn Santa, who

1081
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: is just like wiling out as Santa Claus. And the

1082
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: elves realize that this new Santa is destroying Christmas spirit

1083
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: even further. And some of the elves are disappearing, either

1084
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: like off screen or we see some of them like

1085
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: vanish into thin air before our very eyes. Really cool,

1086
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: cg there where when an elve disappears, just stopped in

1087
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: place and GOLs it's all into the air. I liked that.

1088
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool to get to keep

1089
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: the kids swunging the elves to give authentically scared reactions

1090
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: to that. We locked them in dark rooms for a

1091
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: couple of days. WHOA, that's intense, so that they could

1092
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: experience the void they had water. Well, wait, I just

1093
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: want to make sure that this, Andrea, I just want

1094
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone's taken care of. You would have

1095
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: their tutors go into the dark room and teach them, right,

1096
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: they have to go to school. It doesn't matter how

1097
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: much light is in the room. It's right, that's my understanding. Well,

1098
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: that's why we did it on the weekend. Oh and

1099
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: that is legal, okay, amazing. And also they learned a

1100
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,879
Speaker 1: lot the dark the Darkness is a clever professor. Wow,

1101
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: thank you, Neil gay Man. Okay, the Darkness is my tutor.

1102
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: Loneliness can be the greatest tutor of hall. Okay, I'm

1103
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: good to get that tattooed on my back and posted

1104
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: to tumbler. Holy sh it, good stuff. Okay. So then

1105
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: cal penn Santa Fire's Betty. And then so she goes

1106
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: to the Christmas which and says, Hey, I need to

1107
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: get in touch with him, but not Scott Calvin, the

1108
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: other him. And we're like, wonder if she's talking about

1109
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: Bernard and guess what she is. Because the episode ends

1110
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: with back in Chicago, Scott is like, okay, family, let's

1111
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: spend Christmas together. But then time freezes and some mysterious

1112
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: person has come to pay Scott a visit. I'm kicking

1113
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: the air at this point. Who could it be? There

1114
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: was a moment where I knew, I knew who it was,

1115
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: but I was like, what if it's Neil. What if

1116
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: it's Neil? That would be It's not Neil upsetting. Kind

1117
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: of wanted it to be Neil, but I was happy

1118
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: it was Bernard. That would be pretty great. And you know,

1119
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: there were versions of the script where it was Neil

1120
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: as a kind of as a as a Hanukah Harry

1121
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: type character. The movies were brave enough to have a

1122
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Jewish character, but we probably we're going to be But

1123
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: we got the note. We got a solid note on

1124
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: that from various different people above me. Um, all right, well,

1125
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: I was thrilled to see Bernard turn yes, and of

1126
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: course he could still get it after all these years. Yes,

1127
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: it's okay. So this is episode five now across the

1128
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: Yule Verse. I love that. I was like, you know,

1129
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: just introduce a multiverse plot at this point, might as well,

1130
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: I was saying to myself, And then they did. But

1131
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: it's but you know, I think you know that the

1132
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: name of that would suggest it's a multipe race, but

1133
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: it actually isn't at all. It actually is just a room.

1134
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: So what could you? Could you explain that? So? Are

1135
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: you Catholic? No? Thank you so much for asking. Um,

1136
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: No I was. I went to a Protestant Congregational church

1137
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: as a child and now I own one. Are you catholic, Caitlin? No,

1138
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: I was raised as an atheist brag. So neither of

1139
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: you are confirmed in the Catholic Church. That is true.

1140
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: We should. I think that it would be an appropriate

1141
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: for me to explain to you the inner workings of

1142
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: how this mythology works, because it's really stuff you're only

1143
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: supposed to know if you're confirmed in the chair shot.

1144
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: And my priest is already pretty mad at me about

1145
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: the trans stuff. I don't want him to get pissed

1146
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: at me about spilling the beans here too. But I

1147
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: think any Catholic who sees episode five of The Santa

1148
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Claus Is will understand it pretty easy. Okay, okay, all right,

1149
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: thank you, I mean than thank you for doing that,

1150
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: because I like, I'm always trying to learn, and that's

1151
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: why I keep coming back to this franchise year after

1152
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: year is to learn, and that's that's really cool. I

1153
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: will I will say that one note we've gotten from

1154
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: the fans is, if Scott's the first human Santa Claus,

1155
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: what about the saint who became Santa the first Santa?

1156
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't he human? And then people also ask, what do

1157
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: you mean other real beings? What were the other what

1158
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: does that mean? What are they? Angels? Are they? What

1159
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: does that term mean? They're just like general mystical creatures

1160
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: if they are mystical and magical. Why did there have

1161
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: to be multiple of them through the years? Um? Interesting? Well,

1162
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: these are some questions that the show does kind of answer. Right,

1163
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: The answer the show gives is like each Santa is

1164
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: there for its specific time period, but the real answer

1165
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: is found in the glory of perfection of the Catholic

1166
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: Church's mysticism and writing I see God. All right. Well,

1167
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: the explanation the show gives we're about to get to

1168
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: because what happens is this mysterious person who has showed

1169
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: up to visit Scott Calvin is Bernard the Elf, and

1170
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: the show explains why he looks to be about forty

1171
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: four years old, because that's how old David Crumholtz is. Uh.

1172
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: The explanation the show gives is that Bernard fell in

1173
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: love with a human woman and gave up being an

1174
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: immortal elf, and so that's why he has aged, but

1175
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: not just any human woman. Vanessa Red, I mean, I

1176
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: we have no choice but to you know, really be

1177
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: rooting for this relationship. I wish I wish that we

1178
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 1: now season two. This is a pitch. I think we

1179
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: should see them have sex. Oh listen, if you're watching

1180
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,520
Speaker 1: the if you're if you're if your eyes are peeled.

1181
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: In the last episode, you might get a little glimpse

1182
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: of it in the background. I don't want to give

1183
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: away every Easter egg, but the scene where cal goes

1184
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: to the snow globe warehouse, yeah, let's just say one

1185
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: of those snow globes might have Bernard absolutely given it

1186
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: to Vanessa from the front and then the back and

1187
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: then in the mouth. Wow, they really found each other.

1188
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: I think that that is so like aspirational. It's nice, incredible, okay,

1189
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: And like that, Scott said, no, she's an Oscar winner,

1190
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I didn't know that. And

1191
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: I come to here to learn. I'm here to laugh,

1192
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: to cry, to care to learn. Wow. Okay. So Bernard

1193
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: is like, oh, Scott Calvin, you think it was mere

1194
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: coincidence that you became Santa Claus. And then he takes

1195
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: Scott into the Yule Verse, which we thought was a

1196
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: Santa multiverse. Um, but apparently that is incorrect and we

1197
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: won't know then unless we're Catholic. So I'm starting the

1198
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: process of converting to Catholicism as we speak. Um. But

1199
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: until then, UM, it's it's just what seems like a multiverse,

1200
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: and there Scott meets some of the previous Santa's, including

1201
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: the one he replaced, as well as Crampus and St.

1202
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: Nicholas himself. Uh. And it turns out that Scott becoming

1203
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: Santa was no accident. He was chosen as the first

1204
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: human Santa Claus so that he would raise a family

1205
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: in the North Pole and that his kids would develop

1206
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: magic powers question Mark, and they also would also because

1207
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: he could do technologies, because he because yes, because apparently

1208
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: the albums are really get at tech stuff. But Santa,

1209
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: the immortal angel creatures Santa. Yeah. And when I say apparently,

1210
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean these are decisions we made in the room. Yeah, right,

1211
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: right right, and good decisions I think they are. I

1212
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: would call them a dash of awesome to borrow Jamie's phrase,

1213
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: thank you for crediting. I appreciate, of course, of course

1214
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: I was. And I found myself during this episode wondering

1215
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: what happened to the council that we met two movies

1216
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: in a row with the Holiday Character Council. But then,

1217
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, by the end of the episode, I found

1218
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: myself thinking, and let me know if this was the intent,

1219
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: Grace who cares? Yeah, that's kind of where I left it.

1220
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: We didn't get to get into it this season, but essentially,

1221
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,839
Speaker 1: Paganism has been defeated. By the time of the Santa

1222
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: Clauses series. Catholicism has one um and Mother Earth and

1223
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: her demon Um Cohort have died and been buried under

1224
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: a mountain of ice. Wow, well, thank you, thank you

1225
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: for that. I gotta go rewatch it again, you know,

1226
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: with with with fresh eyes. That's really exciting now having

1227
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: not that knowledge. Yeah, okay, So Scott Calvin was chosen

1228
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: as Santa for these incredible reasons, and then all the

1229
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: Santas are like, Scott, you got to go back to

1230
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: the North Pole and save Christmas. So he heads to

1231
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:08,919
Speaker 1: the North Pole with Noel to confront Calpen Santa, who

1232
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: puts Scott in Santa Jail along with this elf named Gary,

1233
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: who is like a elf cop, Gary Grays. I gotta

1234
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: be honest, Gary, I was having a hard time with Gary.

1235
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: I and it's not the actor's fault. I blame the

1236
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: direction on this one, to be honest, because he's talking

1237
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: like they're trying to make a twelve year old talk

1238
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 1: like he's been smoking since he served in the Vietnam War,

1239
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: and it just like doesn't quite work. He's like Santa

1240
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: and he does that like for you know, for three episodes,

1241
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: and I was I was struggling with it, to be honest.

1242
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for telling me that it's interesting here that you

1243
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: think it doesn't work, because it does. We'll see. I

1244
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I do think it works, and maybe

1245
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: that pulls me to eleven spot again. I think you're

1246
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: at least neck and neck. Okay, Okay, I shouldn't have

1247
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: said anything, and I'm I'm so. I think it's just

1248
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: I let my feelings for Cruton and how fond I

1249
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: am of that character with three lines. But for some

1250
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: reason they put her name. Every time someone speaks to her,

1251
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: they say thanks Creuton, and she goes, no problem, has

1252
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: their thing? Yeah? Hers is? Her name's Cruton? Yes? Okay.

1253
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, back in Chicago, Carol, Sandra, and Cal are

1254
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: also trying to get to the North Pole to help

1255
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: using Christmas magic. That Sandra and Cal do have a

1256
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: k A Sandra's ability to talk to animals, which has

1257
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: already been set up several times, and cows is like

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: GPS like Cal, Cala has the ability to see the

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01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 1: Christmas vortex. Is that allow Santa to teleport around the world. However,

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01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: this is only just now established in this very moment moment,

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01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: whereas Sandra's magic had been previously established, and I thought

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: that was a really interesting creative choice as well centering women.

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 1: We we we did, We did. We did say earlier

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Speaker 1: in the series that cal was having weird dreams where

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Speaker 1: he was Santa. Yeah. Is that the same thing as

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: being able to see these portals? In my opinion, yes,

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Speaker 1: So I just thought that was a puberty thing. I

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: don't know, like, you know, when just gets in puberty,

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01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: they started to dream about being Santa. Just felt like

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01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: a normal I certainly went through that phase. Yeah, yeah,

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 1: they started to dream about me and Santa. You know

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, delivery their baggage. Okay, So yeah,

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01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: don't be crude, is what I'm saying. Jab Could you

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01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: not being crude about the show for a family? No,

1275
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. I didn't that was crass.

1276
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: And I think I just got the wrong idea of

1277
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: the tone when the first episode was called good duh.

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01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: And sometimes I just like I'm trying to figure out

1279
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: where the line is. Well, you know, and at least

1280
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: judge a TV series by the name of its episode

1281
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: and how the characters act and everything that happens in it. Yeah, okay,

1282
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: So I think we're in episode six now, which is

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01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: titled a Christmas to Remember, where Scott's family shows up

1284
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: at the North Pole and with the help of Knowl,

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:26,440
Speaker 1: they break Scott out of Santa Jail. Meanwhile, Kelpenn discovers

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: that whoever wears Santa's coat controls the North Pole, as

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01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: if he didn't already control it. So Kelpen is looking

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01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: for the coat. He's yelling at his daughter Grace. He's

1289
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: being extra scary, but the coat had run away to

1290
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: the Christmas Witches House and so has like a battle

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01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: crawl was pretty slow to not moving very fast, kind

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: of shocking. No one saw it, right, So Scott and

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01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: his family go to look for the coat, but cal

1294
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: Penn has unleashed the army of toy soldiers from Santa

1295
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: Claus to yes, is that correct? Okay, But Carol kicks

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01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: their ass, which is I guess a callback also to

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01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: Santa Claus two. Well, what I what I really liked

1298
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: about that sequence is that she sort of what's helpful

1299
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: for me about episode six that as people are doing

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01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: things they're stating the theme that they're addressing as they're

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01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: doing it. So like Carol, you know, if if I didn't,

1302
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: if I wasn't told this at length, Oh I have

1303
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 1: a name now, I am annoyed. I have had it.

1304
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: Nice to see you again. You know. It's like I'm

1305
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: given all the information I need and I actually find

1306
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: that if that had been given to me over time,

1307
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: or like in a visually interesting way, I wouldn't have

1308
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: liked it. I like, I like the lady from Lost,

1309
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: just being like I know that I wanted to be

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01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: a girl boss Santa, but that I was dead asked wrong.

1311
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I actually don't want a career. I don't want friends.

1312
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: I like my life that I hated as it was

1313
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: exactly the same because you'll think, you know, you think,

1314
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is a season two questions. If

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01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: Carol stays there, she'll just forget her name again. But

1316
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: we don't know. Yeah, none of that's interesting to me. Um,

1317
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: But I was interesting was the toy soldiers. You know,

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01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: I have been locked in that closet, Sant Santa Claus

1319
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 1: to you, and they're sentient, so they've just been locked

1320
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: in that darkness. As I said, earlier. We made all

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01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: the elves who get disappeared to be locked in dark

1322
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: rooms for just a couple of days over the weekend.

1323
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: When they put two and two together and saw that

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01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: that is what had been done to these soldiers, they

1325
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: started sweeping and crying in vomiting, and it actually lost

1326
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,919
Speaker 1: us a couple of days of filming because of that. Wow,

1327
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: shout out to the reindeer named Vomit. That's a fun

1328
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: that's comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. So Scott and Calpen

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01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: both come across the Santa cote at the same time,

1330
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: but Calpen gets to it first and he's about to

1331
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: destroy it so as to prevent Scott Calvin from becoming

1332
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Santa again. But then his daughter, Klpen's daughter Grace shows up,

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01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: and now I'm just now putting together that well I'm

1334
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: speculating here, but Grace, did you name that character Grace

1335
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: after yourself? I did because my dad died. Her name

1336
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: is Young, and I was like, well, what if this

1337
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: is a version of me whose mom died? And I

1338
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like, if my mom had died, you know, my

1339
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: dad would have probably not have been an alcoholic anymore.

1340
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: Then basically it started Amazon so that was kind of

1341
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: the concept of the character. Okay, so Grace the character

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: shows up and she's like, cal Penn, you're being a

1343
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: really bad dad, and he's like, ah, damn, you're right,

1344
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: and so he kind of like concedes. But then the

1345
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: North Pole kind of like rumbles a little bit as

1346
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: if it's in danger, and so they're like, oh, gosh,

1347
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: we have to find the Christmas Orb and they find it,

1348
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: but it's completely dark now, which means that Christmas spirit

1349
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: has completely run out. And Scott's like, oh my gosh,

1350
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 1: this is my fault. I shouldn't have retired. I shouldn't

1351
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: have run away when things got a little difficult, and

1352
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: so he brings everyone in for a hug, his whole family,

1353
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 1: the remaining Elves and cal Penn's character and his daughter Grace,

1354
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: and that hug revives the Christmas spirit, and then all

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01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: the Elves who had vanished reappear and Christmas is saved.

1356
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: But oh no, Christmas is in three hours. So Scott

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01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: puts on the Santa code and becomes Santa again. But like,

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01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: can we talk about that effect though, that effect where

1359
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Tim Allen's face is completely still, it's not showing an emotion,

1360
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: but something, something happened there, something really took place. I

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01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: can't really describe it, and I think some of the

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01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: most beautiful things you'll see in your life you can't

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01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: necessarily put into words. Yeah, exactly the words words cannot

1364
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: describe the absolute beauty we see during this sequence. Um.

1365
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: But yeah. So Scott is transformed, transformed back into Santa

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01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: and he takes his whole family with him to deliver

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: gifts around the world for all the children. And that's

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01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: how season one ends. Not just any gifts, though, snow

1369
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: globes with the Sloes memories in them, including the one

1370
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: where Bernard is having sex with one kid is about

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01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: to have a Does this expose magic to the world

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01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: a bit? Yeah? I think maybe we'll see. We'll see

1373
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: in season two. But also I think that it might

1374
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: just suggest to these families that the Panopticon has won.

1375
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: So season two will have you guys seen Homeland? Yeah? Yeah,

1376
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Mandy potankin season two of the Santa Claus is going

1377
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: to have big Homeland vibes. Nice. Oh that's so great.

1378
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: I just look, I just like, don't count us out.

1379
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 1: We would love to, like we get that, like this

1380
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: is an unconventional episode of our show. It's more of

1381
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: a kind of a behind the scenes promotion for aren't

1382
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 1: We you know we heard the bus because love to

1383
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: like promote aren't We believe in? You know, it comes

1384
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 1: down to the samples. You know, your reps are going

1385
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: to send your samples in and I'm going to read

1386
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: the first two or three pages of and a few

1387
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: others and we'll see which first couple of pages really

1388
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: hit Wow. Okay, yeah, totally. Um, well, well, look I

1389
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: do have a question, and it's does this pass the

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01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: does this pass effective grace? Can you actually give us

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01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: some insight into that. I do think, in fact, it

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01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 1: does pass the Vectel test, maybe even a couple of times.

1393
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: I was getting that feeling. One specific time is does

1394
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: it pass the Pectel's test? When Mrs Claus is talking

1395
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: to like the head help and she's like, has there

1396
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: been a head out before? Or has there been a

1397
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: Mrs Claus before? And I think we only talked about

1398
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Mrs I think, yeah, I love it's a good past

1399
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: because they're talking about how her character doesn't really exist really,

1400
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: which I think is fascinating. Yeah, I think I thought

1401
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: that was really cool. I believe it also passes between

1402
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: between Mrs Claws and Cruton, it does time or two Crutons, like,

1403
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: may I please have a hug? They also talk about

1404
01:32:54,160 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: monogrammed towels, and I think when Sandra talks to that

1405
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: one reindeer, I do think that responds that does pass

1406
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: the Bactel test, even though it's a male coded reindeer.

1407
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: But it's not. It is not a mal reindeer. Great,

1408
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, but you don't know that because you

1409
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: didn't see the reindeer sex scene that was in there

1410
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: when we had that. That's sub sub subplot. Still, that's right, right,

1411
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: Hopefully there's a we can I mean, you can use

1412
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: that footage in a snow globe later, so you know, sure,

1413
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: no waste. Yes, I think it also passes between Sandra

1414
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: and the Witch actually kind of passes a lot. And

1415
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: then also there's an elf we haven't talked about before,

1416
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: the woke elf d she's a bit too woke for

1417
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: her own good. There's no longer a naughty list, it's

1418
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: the misunderstood lists. I hope everyone who watches that the

1419
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: show when they saw that scene, they were they were

1420
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: thinking the show is saying this is good. Yeah. So

1421
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: the show which takes a pretty hard stance against wokeness.

1422
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: For lack of a better term, Um thinks that that's awesome.

1423
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Let me just read a couple other lines from the

1424
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: show and then to be clear, Grace, we are like loving.

1425
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: This is a list of things we left. Yeah, these

1426
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: are my These are the best parts of the show.

1427
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: When when Scott Calvin is like, we can't set dear

1428
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: free in cities, hipsters will just put fedoras on them.

1429
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: That that was really awesome. Um, someone says to Scott

1430
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Calvin it might have been null. He's like, what kind

1431
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: of monster eats a carrot? And then Scott Calvin says

1432
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: hippies and vegans, hippie vegans And he says that with disgust,

1433
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: as he should. There's the yeah, um oh, some people

1434
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: might say that labeling a child as naughty just for

1435
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: having a temper tantrum is brat shaming. Um, and so

1436
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: that was another good line. Tell them there's the famously

1437
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: the house Christmas Spirit and Santa says, all fine, except

1438
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: saying Mary Christmas to all has suddenly become problematic. Yeah. So,

1439
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the end of the day, this

1440
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: country was founded on certain principles. I think we We

1441
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: simply strived to replicate that in our show. Sure that

1442
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: genuinely sounds like a Hollywood reporter headline head writer of

1443
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: the Santa Claus is this country was founded on certain principles,

1444
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: On Santa principles. It's God singular, It's God's honest truth.

1445
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh any other any other good ones? Caitlin, Well, Um,

1446
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: these are just some of my favorite, just flat out jokes,

1447
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 1: because the comedy in this show is rich. Um when

1448
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 1: the elves say elves got an elf many times? Um, wait,

1449
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: just a taffy licking minute. I wrote that too. Oh

1450
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: the doctor says I have a s s a cute

1451
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: squawk syndrome. Um, funny, let's see. Oh, Santa says I've

1452
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: got the body of an mm A fighter, not an

1453
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: eminem eater. I also loved that you can tell Santa

1454
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: is doing a bad job if he gets fucking jacked.

1455
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: That um logic totally scanned for me. And I didn't

1456
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: find the clear, bizarre prosthetics that Tim Allen was wearing

1457
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: to make himself look jacked. I didn't find those alarming.

1458
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: I thought I found them uplifted and maybe even you

1459
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: know a few other things, But Grace said, you know

1460
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a kids show. Well, I would say the show's

1461
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: whole approach to um body image and fat positivity and

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01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: things like that. I would say the show is handling

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01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: all these things very very well and responsibly in almost

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01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: every episode. I would say that, yeah, yeah, it comes

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01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: up in every episode and it always goes well, and

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01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: it always is really good and awesome. Yeah wow, I

1467
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: simply goodness for a better Christmas present that makes two

1468
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 1: good friends, Jamie and Caitlin going through all of the

1469
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: best jokes from my big television show. Hey wait, just

1470
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: a tab you like in minute, which is going to

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01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: be an issue because if if M doesn't, if I,

1472
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: if I don't get a better present from my partner

1473
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: on actual Christmas, I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna yell.

1474
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so I'm gonna be so mad. Don't Yeah,

1475
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't want that. You've said that, You've set the

1476
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: bar so high. I just don't know if they'll be

1477
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,560
Speaker 1: able to jump over it. If you could just like

1478
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: not let M know that we had this conversation. Okay,

1479
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, I won't yell, but I'm not I

1480
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: can't stop myself from crying. And that's involuntary. Okay, okay, okay,

1481
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: See that's maybe. And I hope that we do get

1482
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: more crying in Santa Claus's season two. Yeah, I really do.

1483
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: I hope we get Neil in season two. I'm crossing

1484
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: my fingers for Neil and Linda if we're lucky. Was

1485
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: her name, Linda? Am I remembering that correctly? Oh? His

1486
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 1: ex wife? His ex wife. I don't think I would

1487
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: give her a name on our show. Oh yeah, take

1488
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: it away, So I kind of yeah, she divorced Santa. Yeah,

1489
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Neil heads. I think if if Judge, Judge, Judge Reinholt

1490
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: you found it and in his heart to apologize to

1491
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Tim Allen for voting for Obama in then we might

1492
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a Neil city next season.

1493
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: And I hope that he apologizes. And if if, if,

1494
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: if Tim's reputation is as I believe it is, He's

1495
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: going to make Judge apologize in canonically on camera for

1496
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: doing that. I think, So I think, so, yeah, I wonder,

1497
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean Tim must have been given Calpen

1498
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: a hard time, real hard time, which might have been

1499
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Cal again try to assassinate

1500
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 1: him number of times the drama. God, I mean, Caitlyn,

1501
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: I know you have you to go relatively soon, right,

1502
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: that's true. Okay, Look, I mean does anyone else have

1503
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: final sort of notes to make on this because it's like,

1504
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I could, I could keep going. I have

1505
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: time to give a nipple grade, right, yeah, I think so.

1506
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving this show that I'm ten nips out of ten. Wow,

1507
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: there's only five, but I think that feels it feels right.

1508
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it ten as well. Oh okay, well,

1509
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: since my candidacy as a staff writer on season two

1510
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: of the Santa Clauses is at stake, I will also

1511
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: be giving it ten out of ten nipples because that's

1512
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: famously our scale act on the same page. And that's

1513
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:37,600
Speaker 1: why I feel like kish, look here, let me just

1514
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: pay one last compliment to the show. I really thought,

1515
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: and we we already hinted at this, but I thought

1516
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: the characterization of of Mrs Claws of Carol and her

1517
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: inner struggle of oh who am I I've lost my

1518
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: identity because I've just kind of been wrapped so wrapped

1519
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: up as Mrs Claus and I and were there even

1520
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Clauses before me? You know, she's doing some investigating, she's

1521
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: she's active in the pursuit of knowledge. She doesn't like

1522
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 1: how Mrs Clauses have been perceived in the past. She's like, what,

1523
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 1: somehow I'm humorless while still providing comic relief. And providing

1524
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: comic relief is famously Mrs Claus's role there, so that

1525
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: all makes sense. But you know, she just doesn't like

1526
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 1: that she's this underappreciated, uh figure in Christmas lore. And

1527
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: then she's like, you know what, I'm gonna take this

1528
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a school principal again. And then that

1529
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: which she was happy doing before she met Scott, right,

1530
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: And but then she realizes, wait a minute, I shouldn't

1531
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: have a job or an identity of my own because

1532
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm Santa's wife wife and she and that's good. One

1533
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: thing that was really cool in terms of just like

1534
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: not doing the obvious thing was like, okay, you have

1535
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Mrs Claws and you have this Christmas which right, and

1536
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and they're both judged pretty harshly based on old gender tropes,

1537
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: and I thought, maybe they'll talk about this, but then

1538
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: they never talked to each other once and there's actually

1539
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 1: a couple that I think at the climactic scene, they're

1540
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,600
Speaker 1: standing next to each other, but they never speak. And

1541
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: I thought that there restraint was really cool. I thought

1542
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: it was awesome. That would have just taken up unnecessary

1543
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: space in the show. We don't need to be well,

1544
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,520
Speaker 1: it's more so that we wanted to make a commentary

1545
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:39,799
Speaker 1: on well, wanted to comment on how maybe women should

1546
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: be more active in freeing themselves of these bad things.

1547
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: And it was a choice for them not to talk

1548
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: to each other and maybe, you know, maybe that's on them,

1549
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: that's on them. Yeah, absolutely, they should have leaned in harder. Well, yeah,

1550
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: watch the Santa Clauss everybody. It's on Disney Plus. Now.

1551
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a season two if TV still exists

1552
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: next year, So that's gonna rock. Wow. Is there anything

1553
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: else you would like to plug? Grace? Yeah, Girl Guy

1554
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: is my comedy duo with April Clark and we we've

1555
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: got a like. I don't know, follow me on Twitter

1556
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: if that's still a thing. I don't even I don't

1557
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: know how to promote things right now. Oh, we're gonna

1558
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: be in Vancouver in February. Are you gonna be at JFL. No,

1559
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't get invited to things like that. Um, but

1560
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: I'll just be there hanging out doing some shows. Hell yeah,

1561
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Well we're reachout rand Kouver so that'll be fine. And

1562
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: and we're also going to be at the Kennedy Center

1563
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: on like February eleventh, I think in d C. And

1564
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,799
Speaker 1: then we can we got this big other thing happened

1565
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: in after that, and uh yeah, you know, be able

1566
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: to look out for that. But every baby, Yeah, thank

1567
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 1: you for having me, guys. Oh my gosh, thanks, I'm

1568
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: so glad we'll have a whole another season to talk about.

1569
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: It is starting to feel like, I mean, like, what's

1570
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: the word for a good curse? Is it just a tradition?

1571
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: I think so called medal game it earlier on the darkness?

1572
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Is my mentor what's the word for a good curse?

1573
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: You set? Yeah, imagine if I had a bird head

1574
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 1: and then that would be really fucking profound wow. And

1575
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: then I mean you can catch Jamie and I fingers

1576
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: crossed as writers on season two of The Santa Clauses.

1577
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 1: You can also um follow us on social media at

1578
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: back to Cast, Come see us on tour, see us

1579
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 1: on tour on the West coast. We're gonna be in

1580
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: l A, San Francisco at sketch Fest, and we'll be

1581
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: in Portland and Seattle. You can still get some tickets,

1582
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: although they're running rather low. Sorry, act fast, y'all. And

1583
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: then we've also got our Matreon at patreon dot com.

1584
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Slash packelecast to bonus episodes every single month, plus access

1585
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 1: to the back catalog for five American dollars a month. Oh,

1586
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say to that the star of

1587
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: the scene to clauses himself, Tim Allen, is on Twitter.

1588
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Do not please don't follow him, Please don't follow time,

1589
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: please start of check that out. He's only got bad ideas. No,

1590
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: he's got good ideas. I didn't say you had bad ideas.

1591
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: Listen to this, don't go check him out, no problem,

1592
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: thank you look good ideas such as uh what is it?

1593
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Smorl Marl Marks Wikipedia, communism, Carl Marks Wikipedia. If you

1594
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: say that over and over and over, fast and faster

1595
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: and faster and faster, or you will start to float

1596
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: off the ground like Scott Calvin does when he's good

1597
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: to hell, Yeah, and it's as hell it's well another

1598
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: perfect also our Public store is at t public dot com.

1599
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Slash the Bechtel Cast and there's some new designs that

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Speaker 1: Jamie design, So scoot over there, check those out, grab

1601
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: some shirts and some pillows and whatnot, and hey, we'll

1602
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 1: see you in the new year. Well, you'll be back

1603
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: next year, whether you like it or not. I am

1604
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: I my. We we forge our chains in life like

1605
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: the stand we wear the change with forge in life

1606
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: her degree. Alright on that day, very Christmas to all. No,

1607
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: that's problematic. He can't say that anymore. Grace your Casin's greeting.

1608
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: Happy holiday, Okay, bye bye bye