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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Sadie, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about how my dad sucked my grandpa?

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Speaker 1: Like, quite literally, your dad fucked your grandpa? Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: your your dad had sex with his dad.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was married into the family, but he's been

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Speaker 2: around for a long time, so technically yeah, like it

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Speaker 1: But yes, oh, okay, okay, so he had sex with Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he had sex with his father in law, his.

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Speaker 2: Mom's husband, his mother's husband, yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, his stepdad yes, ah, okay, yeah, sure, what's the

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Speaker 2: We found this out initially, well, my mom knew for years,

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Speaker 2: since she didn't tell anyone because obviously she didn't want

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Speaker 2: well my dad's brother, he used to stay at the

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Speaker 2: house when my grandma was sick all the time, so

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Speaker 2: he was always taking care of her and my grandpa,

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Speaker 2: I called him my grandpa. He was there and basically

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Speaker 2: he went to my uncle. He was basically like, hey,

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Speaker 2: can I suck your dick? Basically it got to that

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Speaker 2: point where he wanted to have sex with him, and

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Speaker 2: my uncle was like, what the fuck no, so down

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Speaker 2: and then he went to my mom and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he is sucking my husband.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so so okay, So how old was your dad

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Speaker 1: when he had sex with his stepdad?

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Speaker 2: I have no clue. Definitely an adult though.

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Speaker 1: Was it consensual?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was doing favors for him, and my grandpa

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Speaker 2: would like buy him fancy cars and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: After my parents got this, he stayed with my grandpa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Cidi, you sound very You sound very excited to

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Speaker 1: tell me all of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm just excited to talk to you, like I listened

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Speaker 2: to you every single day at work.

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Speaker 1: Like okay, okay, okay, all right, all right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: step back for a second here. When did you find

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Speaker 2: When I was about sixteen or seventeen, I'm twenty now, Okay,

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Speaker 2: my brother ended up telling me this and I was

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Speaker 1: How did you react when you found this out?

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Speaker 2: I was absolutely shocked. Like I can't explain the way

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Speaker 3: It was really weird.

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Speaker 2: But like when you look back at the way that

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Speaker 2: They were probably fucking.

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Speaker 1: So your father was basically sleeping with his step father

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Speaker 1: and his stepfather was like a sugar daddy to him. Basically, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you found this out, did you did you ever

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Speaker 1: talk to your father about it? I did.

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Speaker 2: There was like a huge fight about it. I didn't

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Speaker 2: talk to him, but my ex boyfriend at the time

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Speaker 2: like blew everything out of proportion because he liked to

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Speaker 2: You did this and that, and it was like this

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Speaker 2: huge bull out and I don't talk to either of

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Okay, my grandpa, what what? Why is

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Speaker 1: your ex boyfriend fighting with your dad about having sex

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: I know it really doesn't. But he got really involved

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Speaker 2: in the whole situation when I was trying to cut

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Speaker 1: Okay, why are you trying to cut ties with your dad?

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Speaker 1: Was it related to this?

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Speaker 2: Yes, my dad has been like, my dad cheated on

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Speaker 2: my mom like over twelve times with men and women.

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Speaker 2: In the worst it was probably my grandpa, And I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: So your dad cheated on your mom with his stepdad.

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Speaker 1: So he was married to your mom. Yeah, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: so he was a full blown, full ass adult. He

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Speaker 2: No, he's a full grown adult.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And how did that all make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Sadie and maybe feel terrible? Like I'm not I don't

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can you Why did your boy why did

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Speaker 2: I have no clue. Okay, Honestly, my grandpa was like

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Speaker 1: What did your ex boyfriend do to all? Right, so

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Speaker 1: you were trying to get money from your grandfather and

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Speaker 2: He basically just like outed it and it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Basically, were you upset at your ex boyfriend for outing this?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because it was not his place to say anything

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I don't really his place

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Speaker 2: To me, right, Okay, I just needed to tell the world.

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Speaker 1: Now, what about what is you about your mom? What

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Speaker 2: My mom told me that she never wanted me to

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Speaker 2: find out. She was like, I never wanted you to

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Speaker 3: Okay, it just that wled be the.

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Speaker 1: Okay, have you ever talked to your step to your

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Speaker 4: I have not.

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Speaker 2: Not? Really?

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I talked to him a while back when I asked

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Speaker 2: him for my cat, but then he told me, no,

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Speaker 2: you can't have the cat back. She's all that I have.

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Speaker 1: Your grandfather, yes, okay. Do you have brothers and sisters?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I have a brother and he was the one who

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Speaker 1: Okay, older brother, yes, okay? Uh was he keeping it

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Speaker 2: I think my uncle told him. After he basically was like, yo, Papa,

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Speaker 2: And my brother told me like almost immediately. He didn't

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, your brother who asked who to suck their dick?

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Speaker 2: My grandpa asked, my uncle, my dad's brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your grandfather who sucks your father's dick, asked

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Speaker 1: Get you got a whole This is a whole thing

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Speaker 2: No, my uncle told my mother and my mom basically

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Speaker 1: Uh so excuse me the whole you We're beyond confusing.

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Speaker 1: out how to label. Your Your brother found out because

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Speaker 1: So, yes, okay, So what's what's your relationship like with

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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to him in years?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm. How long do you think?

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Speaker 2: Maybe about two years? The last time I saw him.

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Speaker 2: only came here to pass our condolences. But motherfucker wasn't dying,

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Speaker 2: So all blintont lie to get us to come to

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Speaker 4: Do you about a year ago?

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Speaker 2: Two years ago?

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, and your mother, what's your relationship

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I see, like every day we have a good relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she actually has two kids with him. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad to hear that your mom found a

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, okay, And he's not having sex with any of

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Speaker 2: Nope? At least I hope the fuck not. But no,

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Speaker 1: Okay good, I think that's a good quality for a

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Speaker 2: I mean, like my dad was really just kind of

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Speaker 2: then it turned out to him doing like favors for him.

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Speaker 2: You always let him get away with blowing out big scenes.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like, oh, he's okay, he's okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And what about you? You you said that you

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Speaker 2: I actually live on my I live with my boyfriend Chris.

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Speaker 2: He actually introduced me.

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Speaker 1: To your stream Okay, how are things going with Chris?

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Speaker 2: Everything is great with Chris?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good? Good? Have you talked?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: How did he react to this story?

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Speaker 2: Like anyone else would react? Like what the fuck? Are

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Speaker 2: you serious? Like your dad slept with his stepdad, like

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Speaker 2: and it's not just like dick sucking, like it was

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Speaker 1: Do you keep in contact with your grandmother?

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Speaker 2: My grandmother passed away, and this actually came out after

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Speaker 2: and everything just came out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm that's I guess good that she never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that she didn't know?

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Speaker 1: I know? Is that good that she never found out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably, Sadie, do you think this fucked you

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Speaker 2: Definitely? Probably. I'm not a normal person.

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Speaker 2: Probably just because of like where I came from, honestly,

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of so so the fucked up stuff

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Speaker 2: I'm my cousin too. Like I don't really talk to

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, and he comes from like a place

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you trust them?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it takes me a long time to develop trust

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Speaker 1: Okay, what how does how does a person get in your.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Have you ever talked about this in real therapy?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I have a therapist. Okay, I just thought it would

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Speaker 1: What did your real therapist say about this? I'm very curious.

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Speaker 2: I haven't really gotten into this point with her. I'll

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious. I am very curious. What was higher

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Speaker 1: your dad fucking his dad?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. Man.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll call in some other time.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sadie, thanks for calling in. I I yeah, this

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just have one thing, please Fox that X

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Speaker 2: ground That's all I have to say.

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the that's the anti sponsor. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, thank you so much and you're awesome man.

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Speaker 1: Uh hey, you're pretty cool too, Sadie. Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Have a good one you too. Well. That is definitely

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Speaker 1: the giddiest I've ever heard somebody be talking about incest. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I guess I, like I said, I'm glad to hear

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Speaker 1: I actually I think her telling that story has made

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Speaker 3: This is Bobby.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Bobby?

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Speaker 3: So I don't think my grandma loves why not? Well,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of been a running joke now with me

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Speaker 1: Your grandma, that doesn't Your grandma doesn't say she loves you

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Speaker 3: No, never, no, I've she's never said it once.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you saw in the note,

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Speaker 3: Well, because I'm a male, not necessarily because she's a lesbian.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she likes men like at all.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a guest, have you ever asked her?

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Speaker 3: I was kind of your standpoint on it. I don't

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Speaker 1: Have you ever asked her?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's kind of like I don't know

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Speaker 3: That's so awkward.

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Speaker 1: If the answer is that she does.

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Speaker 3: Not, I feel like I wouldn't be surprised. I mean

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Speaker 1: Tell me why you love her.

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Speaker 5: She's always She's always been in my life, which is

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Speaker 1: Can we call her?

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's a good idea, you know.

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Speaker 1: If I were you, I also wouldn't call my grandma

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Speaker 1: Does she ever? Does your Does your dad ever say

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any male family members that that that

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, her wife's son all times.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Do I suck?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've accomplished a lot. But oh I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know. I like confrontations, like

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Speaker 3: I'm an asshole, like I want the awkward confrontation. It's weird.

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Speaker 1: Why does one doing an awkward confrontation make you an asshole?

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Speaker 3: Well, not only that, I mean, I like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been mean to your grandma? No?

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Speaker 3: But I mean, she's like a really big liberal and

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Speaker 1: So you think she hates you because who's what is

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Speaker 3: That that was my daughter?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, so you think she hates you? Okay? So now

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Speaker 3: In a way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me the last mean thing that you did

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Speaker 1: that was fun for you.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I did something today. Give me a second.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you think of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay. So I'm a technician. I work at a

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Speaker 1: Okay, so your you found enjoyment by uh your co

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Speaker 1: so it is a little prank you like you like

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Speaker 1: you like a little pranks. You like a little mischief

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean I'd consider myself mischievous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, telling me about your wife. Does your wife know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't like her either. She's kind of, well,

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Speaker 3: my wife doesn't like her. She's not really nice to anybody.

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Speaker 3: She's just kind of controlling, wants to it's kind of

450
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: her way or the highway.

451
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: This is this is your wife or your grandma.

452
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: Think one of the reasons my grandma it's kind of

453
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: her way or the highway, and she's kind of I

454
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: think that's why we bought heads alot because I just

455
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: don't care. I'm ale, so I'm willing.

456
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: To You're an asshole. So you're willing to.

457
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: Say that whatever she wants is stupid, or voice my

458
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: opinion even though I know it'll put her off.

459
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Speaker 1: So I've got some confused here because you're saying that

460
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: you're not afraid to voice your opinion. You're saying that

461
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: you're not afraid to argue with her. But when I

462
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: asked you why you wouldn't just ask her, you know,

463
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: confront her about whether she loves you, you said that

464
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: you were like afraid or that it wouldn't be a

465
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: good idea. So why do you feel like you're comfortable

466
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: voicing dissenting opinions to her? You're comfortable, uh, you know,

467
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: engaging with her in arguments, but you're not comfortable asking

468
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: her point blank, you know, having an authentic, honest conversation

469
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: about why she doesn't like. Why are you uncomfortable doing that?

470
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: I don't know.

471
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good question.

472
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Do you okay? What kind of things do you argue

473
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: with her about? Is it like political arguments?

474
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Most of them are political?

475
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Okay? Do you get into a political argument with her?

476
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: Like most of the times that you're with her.

477
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: I'd say about like fifty percent of the time.

478
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: When you're in an argument with someone, is you being

479
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: correct or getting your point across more important to you

480
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: than preserving the relationship that you have with the person

481
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: you're arguing with.

482
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: It depends on the topic, but I mean it can

483
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: get that way sometimes depending on what the topic is,

484
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: Because if it's something serious and they really think their

485
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: way is right, and I know it's not, or at

486
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: least in my opinion, is not. I mean, fuck them.

487
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well so well so Robert, like I mean, and look,

488
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: it's okay. If the answer is no, I mean, tell

489
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: me whatever the truth is. Do do you really care

490
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: that much about whether or not your grandma loves you?

491
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I should. Okay, but I mean I've

492
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: gotten this far along without thinking she does, so maybe not.

493
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Okay. So, so your grandma's love is not that important

494
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: to you.

495
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that. I feel like

496
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: it is, but at the same time, I feel like

497
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: it's not.

498
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

499
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 3: Guy's got bixed feelings about it.

500
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Okay, because look here's what I can. I tell you

501
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: what I think. Sure, if it's not. If your grandma's

502
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: love is not important to you, that's okay. It doesn't

503
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: have to be. There's no law that you have to

504
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: love your grandma, that your grandma has to love you.

505
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: You can. You can live your life however you want.

506
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: But if it is important to you, if you lay

507
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: your life out on the table and decide that you

508
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: want to have a relationship with her, then you might

509
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: benefit from having a authentic conversation with her where you prioritize,

510
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, her feelings over being right. And I don't

511
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: know if you've ever gone into an altercation, gone into

512
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: an interaction with her really intentionally, actively thinking about it

513
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: like that, because if you if you do decide that

514
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: she's important to you, then you would go in to

515
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: a conversation with her, like I said, with the intention

516
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: being too you know, have have a concern with her feelings.

517
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: That does not mean that you need to agree with her,

518
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: that you need to change how you feel about anything.

519
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: It just means that you need to go into it

520
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: with a intention of peace rather than war. Does that

521
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: make any sense?

522
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: It does make sense. I feel like I've given her

523
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: that opportunity. We went on a family vacation and the

524
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: first thing, because we flew in from different places. She

525
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: lives on the other side of the United States. And

526
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: when they picked us up from the airport, the first like,

527
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: I tried to go in with the open mind and

528
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: try to be positive and have a good time and

529
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: keep a keep a positive mindset and conversation, and the

530
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: first thing that came out of their mouths was immediate

531
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: disrespect and kind of trying to poke fun at me.

532
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, it was immediate disrespect. Tell me what she said

533
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: that made you feel disrespected?

534
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: Well, she she called me fat, okay, which she said.

535
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: So the last time I wore a swimsuit because we

536
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: went to the beach, was you know, three years prior

537
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: to this vacation. But she was like, oh, we need

538
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: to go get you a new swimsuit. And I was like,

539
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: why is that. She's like, because you've gained a lot

540
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: of weight. I've gained fifteen pounds since the previous three

541
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: years of wearing a swimsuit. It's safe to say. I

542
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: don't think I've changed sizes. M. Yet they felt they

543
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: need to say that. M.

544
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think and I had a call about this.

545
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: I had a call about this kind of recently. And

546
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: also this is a thing that I think about in

547
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: my own personal life, which is like the best like

548
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: if your true intention is to keep the peace, like truly,

549
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: and I'm and this is just me kind of hypothesizing

550
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: about this because it's a difficult thing to maneuver. But

551
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: if you're real intention is to keep the peace, then

552
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: always have that in mind. And occasionally to keep the peace,

553
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: you might just have to take some hits. You know

554
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You might just have to eat a

555
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: few hits, right, Like if somebody calls you fat, and

556
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: I people some guy on the stage that I never

557
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: haven't told the story yet. Some guy on the street

558
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: called me a fat asshole the other day and I

559
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: just kept walking. I didn't engage with it because I

560
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: wanted to kid you piece. No, I no, I didn't

561
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: I do something to provoke it. Did what you said?

562
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

563
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: No, I was walking by. He was like, he had

564
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: like a fucking store and I walked by his store

565
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, come on in, we're having

566
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: a sale or something. And I was like, sorry, man,

567
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: not today. And he was like you know, and he

568
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: was like, no, need to be rude about it, your

569
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: fat asshole. I just kept walk. Now, I could have

570
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: gone over there and tried to like defend my honor

571
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: and ship, but that that's not what I wanted out

572
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: of the situation. I wanted to keep the peace, so

573
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: I kept walking. So I just took the hit and

574
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. I accomplished my goal of keeping

575
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: the peace.

576
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: You should go online and make a better review.

577
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: Why why would I do that.

578
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: Because he felt that your feelings weren't worth it. Why

579
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: should you think that his feelings are worth it?

580
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: Because you know, yes, sure, okay, let's let's relate this

581
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: to your Let's let's relate this to your situation. Why

582
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: do I not? Why don't I go to his business

583
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: and leave a better view? Because it's not worth it

584
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: to me, Because I'm not concerned with keeping some kind

585
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: of charmatic scoreboard of you know, needing to equally wrong

586
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: all those who have wrong to me. I'm concerned with

587
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: keeping my peace, and the best way to keep my

588
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: peace is to ignore the situation. Because as I'm writing

589
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: that review, if I spent the Robert, if I spent

590
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: the rest of the day going, man, fuck that guy.

591
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: Why does he doesn't have the right to call me fat?

592
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: And fuck him and fuck this fuck? Then I'm not

593
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: accomplishing my goal. I'm doing the actual opposite. I'm at

594
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: war in my head and the whole and if I

595
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: were to go and I was like, I'm gonna go

596
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: on what's the name of the website? One star review?

597
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: This guy called me a thing of fuck him. The

598
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: whole time I'm writing the thing, I'm there's my blood's boiling,

599
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: anger is flowing through. I'm hurting no one but myself

600
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: when I choose to engage. I'm really not. And so

601
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: if I'm being fucking smart and I'm really going, okay,

602
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: what path forward genuinely keeps the peace, It's to take

603
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: the hitd and move on and it roll off my back,

604
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: because that's what keeps the peace. So so, Robert, you bet,

605
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: it's not even about being a better person, Robert, It's not.

606
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: It's it's this is for me. I keep the peace

607
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: for me, and and and if you want to keep

608
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: the peace for yourself just so that you feel better

609
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: as you move around in your life, then think about

610
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: what actions best serve the peace and not serve retribution,

611
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: because your retribution is only going to lead you to

612
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: more war.

613
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: Robert, you got a point. You've got a point, Okay.

614
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: So listen, man, I I I I hope that you

615
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: keep that in mind next time you interact with your grandmother,

616
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what do you think about all

617
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: of this? Tell me your thoughts.

618
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: I think You've brought up some good points, and I

619
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna have to try to use those and

620
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: maybe I can get her to stay show with me.

621
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Okay, good. I hope that you feel like you have

622
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: a different way that you want to approach this situation.

623
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything go ahead?

624
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: No, I was just thinking, good.

625
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to me

626
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: or to the people of the computer before we go?

627
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: Do you have a nice trip. I'll have a fun

628
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: time in Japan.

629
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: You're going too correct?

630
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

631
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: I hope you have a great time over there. And

632
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: thank you for talking to me.

633
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, Robert. You have a good rest of the day.

634
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: You as well.

635
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's okay to not love

636
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: your grandma. And look, if you see someone like you know,

637
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: two times a year, how much do you really love them?

638
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: So it's okay to love By the way, it's okay

639
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: to love your grandma too. You can have whatever relationship

640
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: that you want with your grandmother in this life. You can.

641
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: You can be in love with your grandmother. You can

642
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: know you should not be in love with your grandmother.

643
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that. Okay, all right,

644
00:38:50,600 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: let's move on. Hello, Hi, Hi, there is this is

645
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: this a j Can you hear me?

646
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: Yes?

647
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: It is yes, I could hear you.

648
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: AJ. What's what's gone on with you, dude?

649
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: Well, uh, as I told the call screener, I I

650
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: am the other woman in a dumpster fire of a relationship.

651
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about this relationship.

652
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: Well, it hasn't really been going on for very long,

653
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: for maybe like two months. But I'm fully aware that

654
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: this person has a wife and kids. They're just in

655
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: a different country. And I have this speaking suspicion that

656
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: they're probably just using me to like get money of me.

657
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: Things are moving very quickly, and they're telling me that

658
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: they see a future with me and that they want

659
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: to invest money with me, or that I should invest

660
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 4: money with them, and uh, it's it's just a little weird.

661
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: There are a lot of red flags that I am

662
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 4: pushing aside for no apparent reason.

663
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: Okay, how long have you been seeing this person?

664
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 4: About two months?

665
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: Two months? Okay, and they're trying to get money out

666
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: of you. Why are they asking you for money?

667
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: Well, I guess like so in our community, because we're Hispanic,

668
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ideas of like investing money, kind

669
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 4: of like starting your own business, kind of like an

670
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: entrepreneurial mindset, and so okay, you know, everyone kind of

671
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: thinks the same way of like, oh, I'm gonna invest money,

672
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna like buy properties like that kind of stuff.

673
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So I mean that aside, why does he

674
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: want you to give him money?

675
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: Like?

676
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: What does he what does he as? What does he

677
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: want money for?

678
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 4: Uh? Well, he has friends in where he's from, and

679
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: he says that they have businesses and he wants to

680
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: keep investing with them, and that it's a good idea

681
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: because I've talked about my goal of wanting to be

682
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: financially independent, and so he's like trying to pitch me,

683
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: you know, their businesses as like a good investment for

684
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: my sake, you know, framing it as like it would

685
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: be in my benefit to invest with him.

686
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: Okay. And is this somebody that you've actually met in person?

687
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I that's I live at one of his

688
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: relatives house and that's how we met.

689
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Okay. How soon after getting involved with him romantically did

690
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: he start asking you to invest in him?

691
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: I mean it was pretty soon. I mean maybe the

692
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: first couple of weeks. We well, my my family is

693
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: also they have businesses here in Kentucky, and so I

694
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: told him about those businesses and we started talking about

695
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: investments and that's when he brought it up.

696
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so this money thing aside. You say, this is

697
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire situation and you are the other woman.

698
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: How did you find out that he was is? Did

699
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you find out that he was married?

700
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: I mean yes, Like I guess, it wasn't hidden. It

701
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: was more like he told me, like, hey, I'm married,

702
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: I have a family, but things aren't going well, you know,

703
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: like the same story that gets told all the time,

704
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: like oh things are rocky or I'm going to separate,

705
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Yeah, and they're not here, so they're

706
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: not like in the States. It's kind of I guess

707
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: easier because to me they're not. I mean I know

708
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: that they exist, but I don't see them. So it

709
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: makes things.

710
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: When you say them. You're talking about this guy's.

711
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: Wife, Yes, his wife and his children.

712
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: Okay, his wife and his children. Okay, I mean, what

713
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this situation?

714
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: I think I'm wasting my time, but I don't know

715
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: why I don't get out of the relationship. I have

716
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: a tendency to like think a lot of time into relationships,

717
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: like years, even if I know that they're not working.

718
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: So like I know that if I don't get out soon,

719
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna end up wasting probably years on a

720
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 4: guy that I'm definitely not the priority.

721
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Okay. So you know that you're wasting your time, But

722
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: even in the face of that knowledge. Mh, you you persist?

723
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 4: Yes?

724
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Why do you think you persist even in the wake

725
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: of that knowledge?

726
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: Hm?

727
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure. I mean it feels I mean

728
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: he's he's nice. Well, he's kind of nice to me,

729
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: so it feels good.

730
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: To be a relationship, I guess.

731
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so uh our agent. Just in your life

732
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: in general, do you have friends and family.

733
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: H yes, I do.

734
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Are they nice to you?

735
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

736
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: They are?

737
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So you have people in your life who are

738
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: nice to you and support and whatnot. That's not like

739
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: a thing that's totally absent from your life.

740
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: Right, My support system is pretty good, to be honest.

741
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So why do you you think you feel this? Like,

742
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: how do I say pressure or like desire to settle

743
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: for somebody who is kind of nice to you?

744
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: Like?

745
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Why are you in a rush so much for a

746
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: romantic partner that is kind of nice to you that

747
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: you want to settle for something that you know is

748
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: a waste of your time.

749
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly, like, deep down inside, think that

750
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm unlovable and so when someone shows me like a

751
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: moderate amount of affection, I will be inclined to be

752
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 4: very loyal to that person.

753
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's step out of the realm of romantic

754
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: relationships for a second and like, you know, you're as

755
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: you said, and this is why I asked you about it.

756
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Your friends and your family? Do you feel loved by them?

757
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: I do?

758
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

759
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you do? Mm hmm okay, So how do you stack?

760
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean, and you answer, and you answer you didn't

761
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: have to think about that, you said it just pretty confidently,

762
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: just now that you feel loved by your friends and family,

763
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

764
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: I know that they love me. I just I don't

765
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: think that they should. I feel like I'm kind of

766
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: a hasfle sometimes.

767
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: Have you have you had your felt like that?

768
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: Uh? Yes, I've struggled a lot with mental health, and

769
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: my my family has definitely. I've been more open with

770
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: them in the past couple of years and they've seen

771
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 4: me struggle a lot, and I feel like kind of

772
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: a burden on them because of that.

773
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know m hm, Well, the

774
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: path towards you know, getting over that feeling of yourself

775
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: as a burden. I'd consider that maybe as like a

776
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: further down the line goal. And in order to get there,

777
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: you have to first cure yourself of all these things

778
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: that you're doing in response to that. So like, okay,

779
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole it's gonna be a whole, whole,

780
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: whole journey for you to get to the point where

781
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: you feel okay about yourself. But to begin walking down

782
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: that path, we gotta not. We gotta get ourselves out

783
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of this situation with this fucking guy. You know, we

784
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: got to first stop the active detriment. I think before

785
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: finding some sort of active what's the opposite of the

786
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: word detriment, do you do you know what that word

787
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: would be?

788
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: No, I do not.

789
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: Okay, before we begin to walk in the let's just say,

790
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: before we begin walking the path of gaining some higher

791
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: self confidence, we got to focus on stopping the detriment

792
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: that we're doing by getting involved with people who are

793
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: asking us to invest money in their cousins' businesses. Uh

794
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, promising that they will break up

795
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: with their wife who lives in another country and their children.

796
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: So I think I think we first want to get

797
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: rid of the active detriment that we're doing. How exactly

798
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: you do that, I don't know, but it's interesting to

799
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: me this whole thing, because you're aware of what you're doing,

800
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Like you didn't need to, like we like we didn't

801
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: come like you having this conversation with me right now.

802
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: This is not you coming to lots of epiphanies while

803
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: you're on the phone with Gecko. Man. This is just

804
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: you talking about shit you already know, correct, Okay. So

805
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's a good start, the fact that

806
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: you know it, right, because some people are just you know,

807
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: fully wrapped up in delusion that they don't even know

808
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: that they are, you know, doing a detriment to themselves.

809
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: So you're in a good foundation, you know.

810
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I feel like I always know

811
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, and I'm pretty aware. I just always

812
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: want to steer towards chaos.

813
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: And do you have a real therapist?

814
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: I do, Yes, I do.

815
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: What do they say about this, Well.

816
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: I've actually this is the first therapist. I've been going

817
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 4: to therapy for like ten years, and this is legitimately

818
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: the first one that's like life changing. Obviously it's not

819
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: very apparent from the call, but in other aspects of life,

820
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: like I feel like they're helping me kind of, I guess,

821
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 4: see what my values are and move towards them, and

822
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: so in other aspects of life, I'm definitely moving more

823
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: towards my values. But romantically I'm a little bit stuck.

824
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: That's really the only one that's like, I mean, I

825
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: value learning and so gaining knowledge. I kind of like

826
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: to say that one of my goals is to be

827
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: a renaissance man. So right now I am studying linguistics,

828
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: I'm studying Japanese. Next semester I'm going to pick up

829
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: Chinese and delving a little deeper into Spanish, which I

830
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: already know, but I want to learn like the linguistic

831
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: side of it. And I value financial independence, so I mean,

832
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: I really like to save money. I think it's a

833
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: lot of fun to live, like really frully. I like

834
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: to travel, and so i'd like to get to a

835
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 4: point where I can travel at least like three months

836
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: out of the year, and in the summer I'm actually

837
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 4: planning to go to Japan for three months to study Japanese.

838
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, shit age. I mean, look, if I can tell

839
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: you anything, from my perspective, it sounds like you're doing

840
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot. It sounds like you're living a very full life.

841
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like you are very smart and very aware,

842
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: and so I don't I don't know if you understand everything.

843
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you under I don't know if

844
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: you understand the degree to which you're doing a lot

845
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: of positive things for yourself from your perspective, but from

846
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: you know, at least where I sit, as you're telling

847
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: me all these things, you're really doing a lot. So

848
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you should be out there

849
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: settling for anyone who gives you a crumb of kindness,

850
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: or even that you necessarily need anyone to be giving

851
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: you anything, because you have so much. You do so

852
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: much for yourself. So that's really all I can give you.

853
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you're working with a therapist

854
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: that's been helpful for you, But I don't know, Man,

855
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: you it's weird. I want to tell you that you

856
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: deserve a lot more than what you're giving yourself credit for,

857
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know. If I don't know, when you

858
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: have a problem like that, when you have a low

859
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: self esteem like that. I don't know how many times

860
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: a person can tell you that before it really, you know,

861
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: sinks into you. I really don't know. This is a

862
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: tough one. This is like something I've talked about on

863
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: here eight thousand times and something I deal with myself.

864
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: Hang in there, Aja, well, thank you.

865
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: I I just appreciate talking to you. I mean, I'm

866
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 4: not gonna I don't know. It's it is hard with

867
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: a low self esteem because it never feels like you're

868
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 4: doing enough or you're not enough. Even it doesn't matter

869
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 4: like who tells you that, like oh you're doing great

870
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: or whatever.

871
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Right right. That's why that's what I meant just now

872
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: when I said, like, you know, I could sit here

873
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: and like and by by the way, to be telling

874
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: the truth, okay, because I do really think that you're

875
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: doing a lot for yourself. It's what I could sit

876
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: there and tell you that, and then you could even

877
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: experience it for yourself, how much shit you're doing. And

878
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: it's a such a weird thing. And I've again I've

879
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: experienced myself where like external validation, external you know, events, external, everything,

880
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: like there is no numerical amount of compliments or achievements

881
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: that really get rid of self low self esteem from

882
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: my you know, experience, I don't know what it's like

883
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: for other people, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know,

884
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Speaker 1: but I'm glad to hear that you're walking the path

885
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: and trying to fix this for yourself. Don't give this

886
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: guy money agent. That's the number one thing of this care.

887
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Speaker 1: It's anything else you want to say to the people

888
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go.

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Speaker 4: I guess I just want to say that to the

890
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Speaker 4: people that have shitty therapists or have had had experiences

891
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Speaker 4: in the past. I know it's like really tiring, but

892
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: just like keep trying, keep looking because I was legitimately

893
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: going to give up, you know, like I've been doing

894
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 4: therapy for like ten years. I'm practically an expert at

895
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: this point. Uh, And I never thought that I was

896
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: going to click with someone and that they were going

897
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: to change my life so much. And it's a really

898
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: awesome feeling to be able to like get I guess,

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Speaker 4: my life more in balance and kind of in the

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Speaker 4: direction that I want to go. So I don't know,

901
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Speaker 4: it's just encouragement to keep like to not give up,

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Speaker 4: you know, for those looking for.

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Speaker 1: Therapy, Thank you for calling AJA, thank you Bye week.

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Speaker 1: It goes on the line, thank you your phone call

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Speaker 1: every nine and goes to try your life expert