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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arms Strong and Jettiety and he.

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Speaker 3: Arms Wrongddy Strong. You have tuned in to a real treasure.

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Speaker 3: It's an Armstrong and Geddy replay.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's think about the reality that you don't listen

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Speaker 1: to the entire twenty hours every week.

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Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of stuff. Even though it's not live.

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Speaker 2: He's never heard it before. I mean, let's be off

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Speaker 2: and it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So kick back and enjoy an arms Strong and Getty replay.

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Speaker 1: So my dad grew up in rural Iowa. He turns

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Speaker 1: eighty eight tomorrow, eighty eight years old tomorrow. He's one

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Speaker 1: of seven children in his family that lived on a

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Speaker 1: farm with no electricity or running water. Then they moved

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Speaker 1: into town. Using my finger quotes, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it was, one hundred people or something like that, also

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Speaker 1: with no electricity or running water. And we were there

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Speaker 1: sitting with my with my son. He wanted to see

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff and meet some family.

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Speaker 2: And we were in.

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Speaker 1: Iowa at my aunt's house. That's my dad's older sister.

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Speaker 1: She's ninety four and still way more with it than

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden ever was there at the end, but they

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Speaker 1: were talking about their childhood and everything like that, and

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Speaker 1: just I was struck, first of all, how hard it

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Speaker 1: would have been, Just how much more difficult life would

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Speaker 1: have been. If you live in an urban area or

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Speaker 1: on the coasts, you quite possibly are completely unaware that

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Speaker 1: rural areas, particularly of the Midwest and South, it was

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Speaker 1: like it was eighteen fifty up until like nineteen seventy,

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Speaker 1: I mean in a lot of places, and you just

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Speaker 1: didn't know that. I read a book, Freedom from Fear,

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Speaker 1: great book won the Poultrer Prize about FDR through the

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Speaker 1: Great Depression in World War Two. But anyway he sent

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Speaker 1: it turned out to be Hoover, who ended up being president,

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Speaker 1: out to canvas the United States and bring him back

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Speaker 1: a full assessment of how people were doing. This was

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Speaker 1: during the Great Depression, and he came back and told FDR,

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Speaker 1: we got lots of people in this country. They don't

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Speaker 1: have any electricity or running water. It was shocking to

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Speaker 1: the elite in Washington, d C. And New York and

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Chicago who had had electricity since like

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty that there were people in nineteen fifty that

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Speaker 1: or nineteen forty that had an electricity, and so that's

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Speaker 1: when they started the rural electrification program and the government

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Speaker 1: attempted to get electric lines all across the country, but

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Speaker 1: the elite to the country, the big cities, didn't know

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Speaker 1: everybody who was living. I don't know if you use

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Speaker 1: the term backward or non modern lives would be a

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Speaker 1: better way to put it. Non modern lives. And my

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Speaker 1: dad is one of those people, his seven brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 2: It was in the fifties. He graduated high school nineteen

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Speaker 2: fifty five. They went to school in a wagon drug

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Speaker 2: buy horses. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: If you live in San Francisco and there were cars

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Speaker 1: and electricity in the eighteen hundreds, you can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: that that's true. But anyway, the first half of his

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Speaker 1: of those schools are still out there and their historic artifacts.

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Speaker 1: There's a sign out front that says Diamond School Iowa

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Speaker 1: In fact, we missed it a couple of times driving

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Speaker 2: We walk over there to it.

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Speaker 1: My dad gets out his pocket knife and cuts away

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Speaker 1: And there be about the gender bread person, and of

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Speaker 1: And there was a pride flag in the corner because

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Speaker 1: they spent an entire month celebrating all that. My kid,

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Speaker 1: of course, my son was really fascinated by that, obviously,

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Speaker 1: as you would be seeing your family heritage, not to

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Speaker 1: mention just the time machine that that whole thing is.

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Speaker 1: And it didn't have electricity or plumbing either. The overgrown

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Speaker 1: And if you were there in class and you needed to,

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Speaker 1: school and learn you're reading and writing, I've got frostbite

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Speaker 1: on my willie. Oh good lord, absolutely amazing, night after night.

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Speaker 1: And my aunt who's ninety four, talking about even when

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Speaker 1: got home from school every day to get several buckets

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Speaker 1: then they got into the conversation on how much work

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Speaker 1: laundry was. The women did about it all day long.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was just it was such a

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Speaker 1: project just to have clean clothes, obviously, and so what

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Speaker 1: do you do with that information about how much harder

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Speaker 1: life was physically anyway, but so much less depression, anxiety,

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Speaker 1: complaining it seems right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Feeling oppressed or you know, we're doing that.

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Speaker 1: We've done a couple of studies today, both in the

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Speaker 1: United States and Great Britain, about people who have so

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Speaker 1: much anxiety and they feel like their lives will never

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Speaker 1: get better and they're miserable. Right now, your life is

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Speaker 1: so much easier than the one I just described. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's being a different species.

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Speaker 2: It's so much different, right, easier. Well, I think if you.

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Speaker 4: Separate yourself and your life and a feeling of being

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Speaker 4: judged from the conversation, and you just ask the question.

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Speaker 4: Human beings have always had work, and in certain periods

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Speaker 4: of history leisure time different people, different amounts, right, And

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Speaker 4: labor saving devices technology to lessen your work and increase

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Speaker 4: your leisure time have been you know, worked on and

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Speaker 2: Is there a point where you go too far? Obviously?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, to me, the answer is obvious, absolutely obvious.

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Speaker 1: If you got up in the morning and they probably

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Speaker 1: to worry about crap, yeah, to worry about brow And

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Speaker 1: then there's also the just expectations I would imagine, because

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Speaker 1: he told me he'd never been to Demo until he

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Speaker 1: was I don't remember how old. You wouldn't have anything

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Speaker 1: and you weren't going anywhere anyway. That's a lot of

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Speaker 1: where happiness or fulfillment comes from. We've talked about the

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Speaker 1: studies before, where you know, if somebody gets you might

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Speaker 1: be perfectly happy with your house, but if somebody builds

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Speaker 2: I mean, so it's all just comparing things as opposed

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Speaker 4: Well, and studies have shown that if you're making eighty

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We even a more stark example of this is we

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Speaker 1: Henry Saw's first Amish people, which me being around Iowa

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Speaker 2: That was delicious, panamic.

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Speaker 1: And I was wondering, I'll bet there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of depression and anxiety medication going on with those Amish children.

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Speaker 1: Probably not a lot, and probably not a lot needed. No, No,

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Speaker 1: will we will we recognize this at some point as

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Speaker 1: pull back? Will there be any push to pull push

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Speaker 1: or is that just it just isn't an inevitable head

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Speaker 2: I don't know, implode that one, the second one, the

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Speaker 4: And everybody can form their own opinion of this, obviously,

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Speaker 4: I think the percentage of the human beast, the humankind,

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people just do what they

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Speaker 4: see other people doing around them, and they don't ever think.

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Speaker 4: Mark Zuckerberg isn't trying to make me happy. He's trying

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Speaker 4: to make more money. His offerings, as shiny and as

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Speaker 4: going to reject them. Well, that's not the majority of

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Speaker 4: people that don't think, Well, how about just for your

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: I always use the example of those of us who

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Speaker 1: And then if you were staring at a phone your

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Speaker 1: entire life, you can't have the memories like Joe and

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Speaker 1: I have, or anybody over the age of whatever who

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Speaker 1: And I can't do that anymore. But there won't be

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Speaker 1: anybody that can remember that, yeah, or drive down, go

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Speaker 2: There won't be anybody of them. There won't be anybody

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Speaker 2: around who can even remember that, right, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know as wild though to hear a life

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Speaker 1: described like that, which I'm sure was really freaking hard,

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Speaker 1: but yet it sound appealing on some levels like it

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Speaker 2: It was like, well, sounds kind of nice, right, No, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: We probably ought to take a break, but there are

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Speaker 4: a hell of a lot of people can oh, we

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Speaker 4: gotta okay, right, I forgot privilege, delighted to bring you

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Speaker 4: a message from our friends at Trust and will you

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Speaker 4: need an estate plan?

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Speaker 4: If the average British person who waters their law completely stopped,

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Speaker 4: and the media and political discussions and realized that things

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Speaker 4: were just not being told straight, he said. And the

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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty one page report by the Climate

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Speaker 4: Working Group signals one hundred and eighty degree shift from

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Speaker 4: the Biden administration's climate focus. Again, that true focus was

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Speaker 4: handing out money to Stacy Abrams and her Ilk, opening

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Speaker 4: the aperture to theories and findings that might send Greta

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Speaker 4: Tuneberg into a coma. For example, the report said that

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Speaker 4: the growing concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere quote

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Speaker 4: has the important positive effect of promoting plant growth, and

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Speaker 4: that much of the debate about the consequences of ocean

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Speaker 4: ascidification quote has been one sided and exaggerated, and that

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Speaker 4: US corn yields have not been hurt by rising temperatures

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Speaker 4: as many studies have claimed. Last week, two environmental groups

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Speaker 4: assued the Department of Energy over the report, alleging that

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Speaker 4: Kun and his four co authors sought to manufacture or

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Speaker 4: reason to deny the root causes of global warring and

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Speaker 4: were recruited in secret. And this is long, and actually

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Speaker 4: I'd love to read it in its entirety, but they

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Speaker 4: point out look, and this will gratify you if the

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Speaker 4: media drives you crazy like it does us. What does

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Speaker 4: virtually everybody you studied climate agree on. The first is

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Speaker 4: that the climate is changing. Yes, it is it one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent? Is how much is man made? Nobody's really sure,

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Speaker 4: but yes, it's changing.

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Speaker 2: But it's essential to.

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Speaker 4: Distinguish between weather, which occurs daily versus climate, which is

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Speaker 4: the long term, thirty year average of the weather. So

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Speaker 4: what happens in one year, such as a drought or

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Speaker 4: a tornado, is not climate, but how many tornadoes over

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Speaker 4: thirty years. Is it more in these thirty years than

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Speaker 4: in the last. That's a climate discussion. So the first

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Speaker 4: is that the climate is changing. The second point I

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Speaker 4: think everybody will agree on is that carbon dioxide and

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Speaker 4: other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are increasing, mainly due

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Speaker 4: to the burning of fossil fuels, with some contribution from

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Speaker 4: land use.

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Speaker 2: Again, that is almost certainly true.

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Speaker 4: The third thing that everybody will agree on is that

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Speaker 4: carbon dioxide growing in the app atmosphere exerts a warming

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Speaker 4: influence on the planet, and other things being equal, it

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Speaker 4: would cause the Earth to warm.

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Speaker 2: I think where people then start to diverge is.

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Speaker 4: How much warmer it's going to get and what other

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Speaker 4: changes we might see in the climate system that would

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Speaker 4: either be beneficial or deleterious. And probably the last thing

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Speaker 4: where everybody disagrees is what should we do about all

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Speaker 4: of this? If you're going to have a sensible conversation

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Speaker 4: about this, you need to know a good deal about

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Speaker 4: not only how climate science works, but also about energy.

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Speaker 4: And there aren't many people who are knowledgeable in both

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Speaker 4: aspects of that.

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Speaker 2: And whenever you say, what are we going to do

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: Do you mean we in the United States or do

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Speaker 1: you mean we the world which really needs to participate

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Speaker 1: to have any chance?

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Speaker 2: And India and China don't care.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, China now burns sixty one percent of the

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Speaker 4: coal burned on Earth China alone, and they're building coal

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Speaker 4: plants like every day, right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Greta Tunberg is not happy about that. And so we've

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Speaker 1: stolen our childhood, well right, stole.

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Speaker 4: And apparently a single country, even a giant economy like ours,

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Speaker 4: saying we will sacrifice ourselves. Or Europe, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: Europe has has taken a poisoned pill. As if the

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Speaker 4: socialism hasn't crusted their economies enough, they've gone so far

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Speaker 4: down the we must do something about climate change. They've

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Speaker 4: crippled their own economies and had zero effect, but it

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Speaker 4: makes them feel good and enlightened. It's really it's a

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Speaker 4: mental illness. But as absurd as it is for a

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Speaker 4: single country like the US to think, yes, we will

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Speaker 4: sacrifice ourselves on the cross of climate change because it

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Speaker 4: makes us feel good even though we'll have no effect,

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Speaker 4: how absurd is it when like an individual state like

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Speaker 4: California or a dopey little country. Pardon me, like you

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Speaker 4: know France or Belgium says, yeah, we're gonna hang ourselves

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Speaker 4: on the cross of climate change and crush our economy.

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Speaker 2: But it's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 4: You're just you're a moron, especially given the unsettled you know,

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Speaker 4: many aspects of the science.

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Speaker 5: Stupid Euros and their tiny bathing suits. Hey, amen to that,

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Speaker 5: lum smugglers. Um oh, here's a good one. I'll hit

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Speaker 5: you with one of the questions from this long interview.

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Speaker 5: You and Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who's doing a great job.

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Speaker 4: I have written and spoken about the continuing need for

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Speaker 4: fossil fuels and how solar and wind are not up

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Speaker 4: to the task of replacing fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: They're clearly not.

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Speaker 4: President Trump leaves your message and has a particular hatred

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Speaker 4: for wind turbines. Should we move away from solar wind?

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Speaker 4: And what the scientist says is one aspect of having

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Speaker 4: participating in this report is that many people believe I'm

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Speaker 4: a Trumper, that I support everything that the administration is doing.

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Speaker 4: Of course not. I think we've all tried as scientists

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Speaker 4: to portray the fact. If they happen to align with

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Speaker 4: President's view the president's view, that's great, But our goal

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Speaker 4: is not to support President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Our goal is to portray the facts.

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Speaker 4: So when you hear woke people, progressive people try to

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Speaker 4: claim this guy is just some sort of Trump black,

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Speaker 4: he's absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Then he says. Now, onto wind and solar.

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Speaker 4: You often hear them touted is the cheapest form of

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Speaker 4: electricity generation. And that's true if you don't care when

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Speaker 4: you get your electricity. Of course you need the sun

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Speaker 4: shining and the wind blowing. If you want a reliable

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Speaker 4: electrical system, one that produces electricity ninety nine point ninety

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Speaker 4: nine percent of the time, which is the US standard,

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Speaker 4: by the way, or down less than a day out

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Speaker 4: of a decade, then wind and solar can at best

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Speaker 4: be an ornament.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you think about Obama's guy. Yeah, and you trust

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Speaker 2: all scientists who says I'm no trumper.

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Speaker 1: The Obama Biden crowd, you know, opening new solar fields

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Speaker 1: and all the farms and all that different sort of.

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Speaker 4: Stuff, and just and subsidizing it right to the trillions

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Speaker 4: of dollars. Never forget, folks, those trillions of dollars are

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Speaker 4: the point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they're doing it.

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Speaker 4: They're not the cost of doing the thing. They are

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Speaker 4: the thing. The climate change is the excuse to do

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of defending ourselves against well somebody, China, we're

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Speaker 4: looking at you. The whole Salt typhoon hacking attack that

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Speaker 4: you may have heard of, it was way bigger and

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Speaker 4: more significant than was even discussed. I think it was

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Speaker 4: last year a little before that. Apparently the Chinese may

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Speaker 4: have stolen data from almost every single one of US Americans,

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Speaker 4: not to mention the other eighty countries.

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Speaker 2: Well we're targeted.

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Speaker 1: If you just started with TikTok, that would be what

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of the country. I don't know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have TikTok, and that's yeah, information they steal

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Speaker 1: just by if you download that app.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, right, and I know I have saved that article.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who wrote it, but actual oh, I

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Speaker 4: think it was Michael Pillsbury, wo wrote thee hundred Year Marathon,

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Speaker 4: which is a great book about China's rise and their intent.

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Speaker 4: But the Chinese intelligence services talk glowingly of TikTok and

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Speaker 4: what a valuable asset it is. And if that isn't

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Speaker 4: enough information for you, I don't know what you need

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Speaker 4: to hear. But anyway, so, the sweeping cyber attack by

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Speaker 4: the group known as Salt Typhoon is China's most ambitious

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Speaker 4: yet targeted more than eighty countries, may have stolen info

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Speaker 4: from nearly every American. They see it as evidence that

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Speaker 4: China's capabilities rivaled those of the US and its allies.

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Speaker 4: It's not clear whether a lot of the stuff was

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Speaker 4: swept up kind of accidentally, and whether it's being stored

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. You know, I, personally, knowing a

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Speaker 4: little bit about China's track record, I suspect that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they believe that information is power. Or even if you

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Speaker 4: don't know how you might use it someday, you just

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Speaker 4: keep it. And then what the fear is that the

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Speaker 4: rangey the attack blah blah blah. Security officials warned that

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Speaker 4: the stolen data could allow Chinese intelligence services to exploit

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Speaker 4: global communications networks to track targets, including politicians, spies, and activists.

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Speaker 2: They have everybody's digital footprint.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they do they actually have the ability

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Speaker 1: to like coalesce, keep track of somehow, Like they steal

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Speaker 1: all the information from a twenty two year old and

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Speaker 1: that person twenty years from now becomes a US senator.

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Speaker 2: Do they have the ability to keep track of that.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any on you. I'll bet with Ai

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Speaker 2: they do now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe because you don't have to have some poor analysts,

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Speaker 4: like you know, pawing through millions of pages of digital

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Speaker 4: blankety blank or doing Google searches. You just to ask AI, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Senator Jones, what do we have on him? Here's this

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Speaker 4: last known addresses blah blah bla. And in a similar

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Speaker 4: ish story, you remember when the Trump administration's contentious trade

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Speaker 4: talks with China were going to begin last summer, staffers

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Speaker 4: on the House committee focused on US competition with China

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Speaker 4: began to get weird emails from the committee's chairman, John Molinar,

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Speaker 4: who is a Republican congressman from Michigan. Several trade groups,

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Speaker 4: law firms, US government agencies had all received the emails

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Speaker 4: appearing to be from Molinar, asking for input on proposed

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Speaker 4: sanctions with which the legislators were planning to target Beijing.

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Speaker 4: Your insights are essential blah blah blah. Turned out to

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Speaker 4: be the latest in a series of cyber espionage campaigns

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Speaker 4: linked to Beijing. They were impersonating the guy trying to

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Speaker 4: pump anybody for information who's willing to give it to them,

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Speaker 4: and they tied that to when last year I think

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Speaker 4: it was somebody used AI to imitate Marco Rubio voice

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Speaker 4: right and had him leaving voicemails to people, to all

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Speaker 4: sorts of foreign officials.

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Speaker 2: That's going to happen a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wonder And just.

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Speaker 1: Like in everybody's lives, you're going to get a text

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Speaker 1: that sounds like your wife saying something ridiculous. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just as just messing with you, isn't it, because it's

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Speaker 1: so easy?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, apparently.

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Speaker 4: Well, not only do you have Marco Rubio being not

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Speaker 4: you know, I said, I almost said convincingly imitated, but

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Speaker 4: it's not. It's his actual voice symphasized digitally. It's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, if you're a guitar player, you know they

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Speaker 4: have these digital amp what do you call them imitations?

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Speaker 4: There's a word for it, models that actually take the

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Speaker 4: audio data from you know, a Marshall amplifier or whatever,

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Speaker 4: and they can replicate it. You know, the sound waves

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Speaker 4: are the same, so yeah, it's his voice essentially. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: you already have grandma's getting calls from their grandsons saying, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I got arrested, I need two hundred dollars bail, blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah, send it right away.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Wonder whether do the Marcos Rubio of the world and

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Speaker 4: the foreign ministers of Britain or whatever, do they already

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Speaker 4: have protocols in place where if I see a phone

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Speaker 4: call coming in it appears to be from you, for instance,

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Speaker 4: and you say, hey, I need to talk to you

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Speaker 4: about blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: I've been arrested. Good I need two hundred dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good luck, get it yourself. Click. Do they have like

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Speaker 2: code words and stuff already.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because I've heard that suggested that families

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Speaker 4: have that have a code really yes, wow?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah wow, and none of that. Huh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You'd have to be a little naive or inexperienced

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Speaker 4: in the ways of the world to fall for this stuff. Still,

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Speaker 4: But that's that's the thing about scumbags, is some of

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Speaker 4: them are pretty smart and they're good at their jobs. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I got a phone call from my son,

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Speaker 1: even if it sounded very convincing, Dad at Sam, I'm

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. I'm in jail. I think, No, you know

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Speaker 1: you're not. You're at school. There's no way you ended

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Speaker 1: up in Mexico. Well what about I'm two towns over.

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Speaker 1: I was ditching school.

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Speaker 4: And one of my buddies was shoplifting and I was

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Speaker 4: with them, so I got arrested. I need four hundred bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how about like, uhh, yeah, hang out with better people.

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Speaker 2: Click.

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Speaker 4: I think you would probably see where you're supposed to

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Speaker 4: send the money. Right, Wait a minute, I'm calling the

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Speaker 4: cop shop right, yes, yeah, but a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People don't because they're they're night.

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Speaker 4: It's no nice okay,