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Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim. You give us

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Speaker 1: You wanna welcome you back home?

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Speaker 2: Tell us all about it.

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Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine? Malcorn? Do you need

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Speaker 1: to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you need

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Speaker 2: Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need

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Speaker 2: to ride?

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Speaker 1: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgareth.

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Speaker 2: Hello, my friend Karen.

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Speaker 1: Hello Chris.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I didn't know you'd take that tone with me?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the way down, just a lower tone

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Speaker 1: to Chinatown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the way down.

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Speaker 1: And they took it downtown and.

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Speaker 4: Bay Area and back down. I went to see a

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Speaker 1: Let's hear about it.

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Speaker 2: We okay, so at the beginning this you saw my

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Speaker 1: On this, well you go first, and mine's more of

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Speaker 1: a tag. You actually have a story.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, that's building this up. It's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable racing.

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Speaker 4: This story is reliant on your tag. I just want

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Speaker 1: Okay, that I'm gonna beef it up. I'm gonna embell it.

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Speaker 4: Please beef it up ahead of time. You can add

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sprinkle beef on top like a taco salad

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Speaker 2: Oh now I'm hungry. I went to that. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not a desert person. It was very hot.

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Speaker 4: I went there for a memorial of a more of

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Speaker 4: suddenly and went to this concert. But the drummer of

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Speaker 4: So I saw an acoustic version very in the very

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Speaker 4: They said from the beginning, Wow, this is h I

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Speaker 4: we're outdoors. It would be great if he is here, Bud,

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Speaker 1: Uh drama, Maybe some behind the scenes drama from the tone.

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Speaker 4: I could hear some arguing and things being said that

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Speaker 1: Super chunk Is can do whatever they want to do.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very talented there. I wouldn't think of

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Speaker 2: No, no, they are allowed.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say punk band, but I overheard the parking

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Speaker 4: attendant described them as a punk band from the seventies,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not into details. He's more about, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and he it was. It was a swing

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: My only kind of lightly spiced ground beef that I

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Speaker 1: is that I had. You told me that you were

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Speaker 1: I didn't want it right in your face. Thrown in

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Speaker 4: It was such a terrible flip chunk, What.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I did the research that let them know

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's well, because that's hard. Suddenly you're all like

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Speaker 2: Hey, they did it.

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Speaker 1: Jams total jams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably not satisfying to them, especially having waited

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Speaker 4: Speaking of waiting for satisfaction, Hey, we have a guest

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Speaker 4: today that is a dear friend of mine and yours mine.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited and have her back. I used to

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Speaker 4: your why do I want to say, put your hands together,

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Speaker 4: your office desks for today's guest, tig nataro.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you. There's enough of me to go around. Easy, everybody,

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Speaker 5: Everyone sit down, relax in your homes. There's enough of

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Speaker 1: The irony that we didn't introduce you by saying she

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Speaker 1: because we say that about every guest and you actually,

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if I can be specific theaters.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these colleges have theaters on campus. I

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Speaker 1: That we all stopped in two thousand.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I didn't go to college, but I

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Speaker 4: I was my intro was going to be today's guest

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Speaker 4: hasn't been to college?

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Speaker 2: Put your hands together for too, guitar.

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Speaker 1: You know that'll be the new catch all intro today's guests.

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Speaker 1: Didn't go to college for anybody? Anybody? Right, everybody?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Is that your dog? Or did you leave your

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Speaker 1: She does have that vibe right of like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh hi Blossom, see hi. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love thinking of you being that casual that you

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Speaker 1: Just kind of be real calm about it.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Chris and I basically lived like

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Speaker 5: that with our doors open and stray animals would walk

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Speaker 2: I think that you.

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Speaker 4: I had the kitty come because I had my side doors.

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Speaker 1: Door too, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you would have to go.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't leave, like get out of bed and roll

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 2: I was letting you on that one. Yeah I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna one up you. Uh, yeah, I would. I

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Speaker 1: I think now's the time to tell her how much

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Speaker 5: I know what this feels like. Honestly, my son Max

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Speaker 5: called our family together and told us, I think it's

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Speaker 5: time that I tell somebody this. I think it's time

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Speaker 5: you know this. And we were waiting and he said,

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Speaker 5: when I I was a baby, I used to eat

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Speaker 5: He'll be six in June. But the fact that he's

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Speaker 2: What I mean? Yeah, that is so sweet.

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Speaker 4: He threw his own little toothpaste intervention also too.

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Speaker 1: Baby toothpaste is really delicious, have you ever It's sweeter

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Speaker 1: No, but I have.

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Speaker 5: I've tasted a little bit, but I just just a

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Speaker 5: announce it to my family that I'm eating toothes of toothpaste.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's become a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, I got get this off my chest.

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Speaker 5: I just like that he felt like there was a

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Speaker 4: Way, it was Stephanie and Fluff and everyone was in

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Speaker 5: Well, and there's two more cats. We have kitty city

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Speaker 5: full swing over at the notaro.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't how many cats?

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Speaker 5: Three it's Fluff, Skip and Linus.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever call that cat, and then he picks

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Speaker 4: up the phone and goes, Kitty City, Can you hold please?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just constant. We have so many calls at

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Speaker 5: Kitty City.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's that calm when they answer the phone at Kitty City.

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Speaker 4: If you aren't already doing it, and imagine a cat

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Speaker 4: that is an old timey operator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just at a at.

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Speaker 2: A board, a button board.

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Speaker 5: And a little paw pushing down Kitty City. Please hold

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Speaker 5: Kitty City. Can you hold please, Kitty City and never

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every call is left hang if that if that visual,

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Speaker 4: If you aren't able to see it, you're like you're

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, be it.

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Speaker 5: A mean tired of any cat doing anything?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really, Max, This next big confession is like, you

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Speaker 2: Please do I take I not to one up. Karen.

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Speaker 4: I think of you every day because on my wall

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Speaker 2: If if, if you do, you have nearby some wayfarer

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Speaker 4: Do it, but Karen, I, if you ever see taking

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Speaker 4: Of course I did, Okay, can I asked some questions

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Speaker 5: I took a bit of a break, but no, I

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Speaker 5: Nobody has seen it in the theater? Oh the trailer?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it wasn't If you close your eyes and imagine,

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Speaker 1: Or snoring.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, perfect timing.

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Speaker 1: And I was just I had that kind of like

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Speaker 2: Go thank you, house plants. You've been terrific.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, if I can just follow up everyone thinking

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Speaker 1: I think about both of you.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the exact amount of times, but it's

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Speaker 5: But you are two of the funniest people living on

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Speaker 5: of course, of course you know. And well, it's true though,

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Speaker 5: it's it's ridiculous. I mean, my brother and I. You

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Speaker 5: my brother and I had a night at his house

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Speaker 5: and he and I did a whole Chris Fairbanks, you

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Speaker 5: and you ask My brother said something like, oh, my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I said, wait a minute, he's the funniest. Would you

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Speaker 5: really say he's the funniest when somebody like Chris Fairbanks

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Speaker 5: is alive?

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Speaker 1: And then turned to his.

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Speaker 5: Wife and we just went through the greatest hits and

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Speaker 5: then I showed them the the Rastafarian bit that my

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Speaker 4: Oh that's because that being in that situation where someone's

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Speaker 4: with videos they randomly find, because I'm always like, well

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Speaker 5: This one, hold on, they're funnier in person.

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Speaker 1: No, this is long. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I do it with dying with Henry Phillips to people

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Speaker 2: See one of the classes.

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Speaker 5: There's a better one.

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Speaker 2: And then they're like, when can I when can I

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Speaker 1: You know, the best Henry Phillips video is You and

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Speaker 1: Your Fucking Coffee. When he goes, he brings his big

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Speaker 1: you're right, so perfect. It's the most perfect comedy video.

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Speaker 1: It's You and Your fucking Coffee and all he does

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Speaker 1: that won't not bring a gigantic mug of coffee everywhere

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Speaker 5: It is and that's one of those stories where if

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Speaker 1: You got to see Henry Phillips. It's the funniest.

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Speaker 5: But to be to follow it up, my brother did say,

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Speaker 2: Verst all that I love. He's the best. I love that.

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Speaker 4: When he was doing that sports talk radio program, I

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Speaker 6: I don't know about sports sports sticks Papa, but I

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Speaker 2: I'm very good at that.

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Speaker 4: If there's something that's supposed to be talked about, I

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Speaker 4: perfect for a sports talk radio show, and this is

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Speaker 1: By guys, please please call in and cast Chris on

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Speaker 1: your radio show terrestrial only.

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Speaker 2: Please Drive Time Classic, Clear Channel based. Well, I love

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Speaker 5: I love you, and Karen, I love you, Thank you, Tick.

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Speaker 1: I love you Ti.

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Speaker 5: And I know there's a while that I should apologize

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Speaker 1: No No, I never apologize for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeve at the Bootleg Theater. We couldn't stop. We could

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Speaker 1: It really mattered because I will tell you this, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's hard enough to put whatever you think is good

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Speaker 1: out and stand behind it. But guitar comedy it's rough.

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Speaker 1: And so you're this thing where you were just like

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Speaker 1: The enthusiasm it was just like, cause I give Chris

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're wrong. I've seen you do this to yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're completely wrong. You don't understand, and I know I

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Speaker 5: Every time, it nailed it, nailed it, nailed it.

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Speaker 1: But with something like that, we were like singing songs.

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Speaker 1: It's just very vulnerable in a way that I kind

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Speaker 1: of it's incredible. Didn't understand it's incredible.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Thank yeah, yeah, yeah, that meant a lot.

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Speaker 4: Did you discover that album recently, tig Or? Are you

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Speaker 4: talking years ago?

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Speaker 5: When you first years ago when it came out and

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Speaker 5: and then I mean to this day, we still reference

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Speaker 5: I don't always enjoy a comedy album, just like I

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Speaker 5: love your album. It's just it's so I mean, aside

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Speaker 5: destroying me. You know, it's I've never seen anybody do

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, you both do that.

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Speaker 4: That's why I wouldn't when you say guitar comedy, we

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Speaker 4: moments that I that is kind of what I walk

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Speaker 4: away with them, Like that business the Business Situation song

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily jokes. You don't have jokes in the lab.

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Speaker 5: But I think also the important element is that with

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Speaker 5: I mean, you do so many different things, Karen, and

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Speaker 5: this is going to be incredible.

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Speaker 2: You know what I just realized.

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Speaker 4: your voice that I don't have. I think I sometimes

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Speaker 4: my voice brings people anxiety. You don't know where I'm

448
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 4: going to go with a sentence. You do have a

449
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: tone to your voice that people know it's going to be.

450
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. You know. I think I'm doing an

451
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: impression of my psychiatric nurse mother, where everything is a

452
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: little bit like, let's bring this down. Everything's fine. It's that.

453
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: But it's funny to hear that, because, of course, my

454
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: experience of doing comedy always was like I'm going to

455
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: get on that stage and I'm going to fight these

456
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: people one at a time. Like it was so aggressive

457
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: and so.

458
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 5: And you would I saw you do it one at

459
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 5: a time. You kick their teeth in and kick them

460
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 5: out the door.

461
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: We all fight, you all, and you'll still laugh with

462
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: my jokes. So it was always that's a very nice

463
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: It's always good to hear other people. I think that's

464
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: a thing on comedy that's so hard, and I think

465
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: coming up in the nineties, no one ever was nice

466
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 1: to anybody about their sets. It was so competitive until

467
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: we all got to la I think, and people kind

468
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: of started to realize like, oh, we have to be

469
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: a group and support each other. But I always felt

470
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: like antagonism or like I had to be you know,

471
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: ready for ready with a quip or something like that.

472
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: So that's really notice. I like that, you know, the

473
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: older I got, I realized like, oh, there's plenty for everybody.

474
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: We're fine.

475
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'll get mine.

476
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

477
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 4: It does not have to be a fight anymore now,

478
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: and it isn't. Things have changed. Even skateboarding was like that.

479
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: There's like a tough guy thing in the early nineties,

480
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: like a territorial thing, and it it. I can always

481
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: draw parallels with comedy and skateboarding, and people love to

482
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: hear them.

483
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: But that's why he's doing it again. Come gather around, Yeah,

484
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: get Chris's panel. Chris is starting his panel.

485
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's kind of gone away. We're in

486
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: a better place. The nineties were terrible but great for music.

487
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, well it's true.

488
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just mind and the sentence with thats too.

489
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 4: Oh in general, when you're playing drums, you look like.

490
00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Just a kid.

491
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: You we're like turned into a child on the ground.

492
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: Your smile, you had like a look on your face

493
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: that was not normal, one of your Tig character faces.

494
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: And I'd seen all of them. All Tig and I

495
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: used to do in our tiny hat is do little

496
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: characters try them out on each other in the hallway,

497
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 4: and then we go to our quarters and that was

498
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: the show.

499
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 5: You'd go into your doors, I'd go in doors, side door,

500
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 5: I'd go through the wall.

501
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: Amazing.

502
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Every one of my favorite memories is at Sarah Silverman's

503
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: roof party and for about a half an hour, wasn't

504
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: it the three of us doing bits where we were

505
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: pretending to end conversations and jump off the roof over

506
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: and over where we were just kept finding spots where

507
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: we're just like, oh my god, it's crazy. I have

508
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: to get up at seven thirty. I'll see you guys later,

509
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: and then just run towards the My.

510
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: Favorite the TIGS done many times is at a party

511
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: that isn't her house.

512
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: Maybe talked about this before, but the bringing out the

513
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: old file.

514
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: Again, Yeah yeah, why not? Ninety's number five sixty two.

515
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: I've done it twice.

516
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, if you're do this at home, if

517
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 4: you're listening or in your office, if you're ever at

518
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: a party and you don't live there, just go out

519
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: and announce, all right, everyone, I'm about to go to bed,

520
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 4: so ten more minutes.

521
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: That's my favorite. Tag has a lot of party jokes,

522
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: and that's the best one.

523
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: Hey, everyone, I just want to let you know I'm

524
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: going to bed in like ten minutes.

525
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: When it's nine thirty.

526
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: People will start cleaning up. And then where it gets

527
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: around that you don't live there, and.

528
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: It's just yes, But my point is always, I don't

529
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: have to live there to be going to bed in

530
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: ten minutes.

531
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: Now, which at least it's going to be my room.

532
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I was serious.

533
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: I drive by our little house all the time, Tig,

534
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: I just want to look at it.

535
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks great.

536
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: What neighborhood it was in Venice.

537
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: Abit Kenny area, Yeah, Abit.

538
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: Kenny area, when it still had an edge to it.

539
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: Now it's Rodeo drive basically.

540
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

541
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: Do you remember when I had I had like a fever.

542
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: I was sick for like three weeks, and a plumber

543
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 4: came over and for some reason this is kind of graphic,

544
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: but the whole our pipe burst, and like the neighborhood

545
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: we were on sitting on the neighborhood's.

546
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: Sewage and choice.

547
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: He was like, he said, yeah, and we loved it.

548
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I was addicted to this stuff.

549
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, I get so much good, good thinking done

550
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: with this one hundred and four fever. But that was yeah,

551
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 4: we were I was sick because of all the yeah,

552
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: the just airborne bacteria that was.

553
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: It was. Maybe it's good we don't live there anymore.

554
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the was the story about the plumber

555
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: coming over.

556
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: It was I mean, you know, I was hoping you'd

557
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: add some spicy beef to that one too, which is

558
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: gross to talk about when you're talking about a broken

559
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: septic system.

560
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 5: We were basically just using under the house as our toilet.

561
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, along with all our neighbors.

562
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh noah, should we go to commercial.

563
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and really just take a deep breath on this

564
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: whole idea.

565
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

566
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I was little, we had a septic system

567
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: at our house because we lived way out in the country,

568
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: so I guess we weren't on the city sewage line.

569
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: And I have a very early memory of standing in

570
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: the front yard and my dad had taken the lid

571
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: off the septic tank and we were just watching shit

572
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: and stuff go by because he was because it was

573
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: like clogged up and stuff, and just being like, oh no,

574
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: like it was a right and we had toilets that

575
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: would back up all the time, becau because it was

576
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: a septic tank.

577
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, what else are you going to do

578
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: in a small town but watch poop roll by?

579
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: You get out here? That much else to do. It's Saturday.

580
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: Their children gather around.

581
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna watch the septic tank churk, a hair comb.

582
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Flushed a comb, My old Dolly, my new Dolly. Dive

583
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: worth it, totally worth it.

584
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, septic systems. No one knows how they work, but

585
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: they do.

586
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: And we'll never know. Yeah, there's a couple of people

587
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: who know. Yeah, they people. They work for the city.

588
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: You got to get them on the phone right now.

589
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Hello, city controller.

590
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Is this a sketch show?

591
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: It is?

592
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: It's called it's called call people. Instead of having a

593
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: punchline at the end of us, you just get on

594
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: the phone.

595
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Chris, you said Tigg had characters that she did in

596
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: the house when you lived there where there's some other

597
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: ones that should be brought up right now.

598
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: Well, Uh, there's the character that is leaning against a

599
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: wall in a kind of uncomfortable position but kind of

600
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: all the weight against the wall. And this is also

601
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: a person that says it's time for bed.

602
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

603
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: A lot of these show time was at night before bed.

604
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: I love bedtime.

605
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the jokes, celebrate and the jokes that preceded.

606
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: So she lean against the wall and it's hard to

607
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: describe because it's physical comedy. Then you go all right,

608
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: well see you later, and stay in that leaning against

609
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: the wall position as she would just go walk all

610
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: the way to where we're So if you're like leaning

611
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: against a wall like a cowboy, and it's like all right,

612
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: time to go to bed and then stay.

613
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: Hold the position, hold the position, and then go about

614
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: your life because that's just the way you stand.

615
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, laying in bed like John Wayne leaning

616
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: against a wall.

617
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: But it's just a pillow.

618
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: No, do you do you have a dance background? Is

619
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: that how you could do that kind of physical comedy? Yeah?

620
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: I do have a dance background. I was in ballet

621
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: once when I was four, and I've just really used

622
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: that for years.

623
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Yea with my comedy career.

624
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: I get asked that all the time if I have

625
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: a dance background background. My mother actually was a ballerina

626
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: and I, uh, yeah. She signed me up for ballet

627
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: when I was four. And then the class would all

628
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 5: get together in a circle and put their hands behind

629
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: their backs because the teacher would go around and put

630
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 5: a piece of candy in their hands.

631
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

632
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: And the teacher stopped doing that one day and I

633
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: was like, I'm out bye. Yeah yeah, see yeah.

634
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 4: It's it's yeat slowly preparing that child to know that

635
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: they have to stay unhealthily petite in a career. Right, Okay,

636
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: you know what candy was like, it's over. Now, it's over.

637
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: You forget it. Now, stand on the tops of your

638
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: toe knuckles.

639
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: In your knuckles, yeah, your toe knuckles.

640
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: I was just going to do a visual, and I

642
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: realized that's bad podcasting. But a lot of these children,

643
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: they make them stand on their toe knuckles.

644
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: What if I just kept saying it.

645
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to start talking about toe foot

646
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: and toe health, which drives stuff to be crazy. But

647
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 5: I've gotten very into foot and toe health. Oh are

648
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: you familiar with like the barefoot world, like barefoot movement

649
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: where you see people, you know, maybe you see somebody

650
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: walking around bare feet, or those like shoes that have

651
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 5: little toe things to put your toes in.

652
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Oh, the toe shoes.

653
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: Okay, everyone's yes, everyone is like this this guy with

654
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: the toe shoes or this one walking on stage with

655
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: those shoes on. It's it's for a reason, and let

656
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: me just insert my commercial here. It's fascinating if this

657
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 5: interests you at all. As you get older, you know

658
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: how your toes get all mangled. You see people with

659
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: like toes shooting off in different directions. Yeah, sure, yeah,

660
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: just like ginger root. Yeah, shoes these days are may

661
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 5: Everybody's like, I need support, I need to get shoes

662
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 5: with good support. Well, all that support is keeping your

663
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: foot still when you're in a shoe. And you should

664
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 5: be barefoot because all of your toes and your feet

665
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: should be moving when you walk, and your toes should

666
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: be able to separate, and it shouldn't go away as

667
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: you get older. It's because shoes are made to look nice,

668
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: but they cramp your toes and your feet. So those

669
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: people that are barefoot or wearing the ugly toe shoes,

670
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: they're actually doing it to make themselves feel better.

671
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

672
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 4: Not, it's because it's you. You live life to feel

673
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: better and it's not a fashion show, right.

674
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: It is not.

675
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: I it is to a certain age. Yeah, and then

676
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: you're like, oh my god, my back, oh my god,

677
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: my toes, oh, oh my god.

678
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 4: So you're saying I have to start wearing tevas or birkenstocks.

679
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 5: I would just say, look up the barefoot movement. There's

680
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: barefoot shoes aside from the little toe slots you put

681
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: your toes into, look into it. It just it makes

682
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: a lot of sense. I'm just you know, glad Stephanie

683
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 5: isn't here to hear me bringing this up on the podcast.

684
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: She'd get a set. She's just like enough with the foot.

685
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: And so hell, I I have a thing.

686
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: It's the off because there's also people that enjoy feet

687
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: in a in a scandalous way. They have magazines of feet,

688
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: and they pay, they pay for pictures of feet, and

689
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: I'm not sure shaming that, but I'm the opposite. I

690
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: really don't want to see your toes, even if you

691
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: put time into them. I just let's let's just keep

692
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: them covered.

693
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: They're not a great When people do have really I

694
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: guess nice feet or whatever. I feel like they're just

695
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: so lucky because it's a hard thing. They're just you're

696
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: you're already behind the eight ball in terms of what

697
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna get right. It's just not odds. Are your

698
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: feet are going to be kind of gross?

699
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

700
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I just unless you take care of them, unless you

701
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: go barefoot, everywhere, well not everywhere.

702
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 5: No, there are barefoot shoes that just give your foot

703
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 5: a little bit more room up front where the toes are.

704
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: And I don't always wear them, but I do have

705
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: those now and I just have more awareness. And I'm

706
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: sorry that I just lost a lot of your listeners

707
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 5: over toe and foot health.

708
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: No, I was more afraid that you were saying that

709
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: you have to go bare foot foot in a city

710
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: where people spit on the ground as if it's their job,

711
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: or spit their gum places, or like when growing up

712
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: in the country there were always long gravel roads. Oh that,

713
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: like you know, you just simply that wouldn't be a choice.

714
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: That would just be hell and we take you forever

715
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: to get up the road.

716
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 5: Yes, and that's why you put on a barefoot shoe.

717
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm mistaken thinking you're saying barefoot. If you can

719
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: do a shoe that's like it.

720
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, you can be barefoot, or you can wear

721
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: a barefoot shoe which gives your feet room.

722
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: You are talking about those shoes that are little toe gloves.

723
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: Those are some. Then there are others that are not

724
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 5: the little toe gloves. Please don't get upset, Please don't

725
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: I am furious. I have never been so upset.

726
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: There are.

727
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 5: You can be completely barefoot. You can put your foot

728
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 5: into a foot glove, or you can put on a

729
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 5: shoe that's normal looking, that is a quote unquote bear

730
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 5: foot shoe, and it just gives your foot a little

731
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: bit more room where your toes are so they can split,

732
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: spread out and do the work they're supposed to do

733
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 5: to stay healthy.

734
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: So in order to provide that kind of room in

735
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: a shoe you are describing like a classic clown shoe,

736
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: those the clown knows.

737
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry too, Scott.

738
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: That really is good.

739
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: That's when it takes many A lot of people don't

740
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: know about her sound effect works.

741
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Horn character, horn character, nighttime horn character.

742
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: That's all that character does.

743
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: That's all awful.

744
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, so now I'm imagining.

745
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: I guess maybe I can get an insol that has

746
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: little compartments that will separate my piggies.

747
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 5: Piggies hate to be separated, but it's for your your

748
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: best interest, especially for when you get older and you

749
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 5: don't want to collapse and fall over because your feet

750
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: are all like this.

751
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah plash or fascy ITAs. Yeah, well,

752
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 4: somebody's got to go to the market.

753
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the little piggies did go to the market.

754
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only one. Yeah, then another one laughs all

755
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: the way to the bank. I think we never know

756
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: that which job is for what? I am someone that

757
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: even my I'm just a tenderfoot. Uh, And I cannot

758
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: Like when I go back to Montana and there's any river,

759
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 4: hangout or anything, I gotta wear shoes. I will, even

760
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: even if it's round, polished gravel and I'm barefoot, my

761
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: knees knocked together and I just faint face first into

762
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: the water. Meanwhile, my friends can tap dance on glass.

763
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: I just don't know why my feet are.

764
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but fainting face first into the water sounds way

765
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: more Montana than tap dancing on glass. So it seems.

766
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: It's just how Cowboy ends the day.

767
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it all sounds very carnival to me. Who are

768
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: these friends of yours? Who are these people?

769
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: I'm it is like a circus act. All of my

770
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: friends are able to walk on gravel and I am not.

771
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: I react like everything is a lego, and I just

772
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: it hurts so bad. I have the worst, most tender feet.

773
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: I gotta do something to toughen them up.

774
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you should. How about you just take a razor

775
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: right to those the bombs of your feet and just

776
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: do crosshatching.

777
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a cutter.

778
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: That's a really good idea.

779
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: It really is build up the scar tissue. Something's got

780
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: to do it. So you think a razor is.

781
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: The way to go.

782
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean you could do a razor, you can do

783
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: a kitchen night.

784
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: Okay, well I'll get started box cutter, just real quick.

785
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: Ju Yeah, just get it over with. Take you during.

786
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 4: You have like multiple podcasts now I have two, and

787
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: that's like more than one.

788
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: That is I can't fermit. Yeah, tell us about them?

789
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.

790
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: Well I have a weekly podcast, an advice podcast, where

791
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 5: I try to give earnest advice and then a lot

792
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: of times it'll go off the rails, of course, because

793
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 5: I realize I'm I don't know what I'm talking about.

794
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: And then I also have a a podcast called Tig

795
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: and Cheryl True Story where Cheryl Hines and I talk

796
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: about a new documentary every week. And and yeah, those

797
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: are the those are the two podcasts. Don't ask Tig

798
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: is the advice one, but those both sound great.

799
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: What's the best advice that you've heard yourself give? That

800
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: you actually we're like, oh wait, that I led It

801
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: is good, you know what.

802
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: Honestly I don't know or remember, but I will say

803
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: the advice that I do always give people, which is

804
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 5: something that stuck out to me. I heard. I heard

805
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 5: this bit of advice. It's not my own. I tweaked

806
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: it because it used to be very specific about a

807
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: particular person in your life. But I always say that

808
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 5: the best gift you can give anybody is a well

809
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: lived life of your own. And I feel like that

810
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 5: is so empowering and freeing because when you think about

811
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 5: family members and friends and if they're not taking care

812
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: of themselves or they're not happy, it weighs you down,

813
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: you know. But if somebody is out living their life

814
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 5: or they're just free of whatever it is, then it

815
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 5: frees you up. And so I always love that and

816
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: I always try and think about it for myself and

817
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: and so that's that's what I always mentioned.

818
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, and that that can be applied to

819
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: so many things, like living your life, even if it

820
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: means they live their life so much they don't have

821
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: time for me. It is you are looking at someone

822
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: as like they're happy, and that brings me peace, or

823
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: they're doing everything they can because there's so many so great, Yeah,

824
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: so many people.

825
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: I think of that.

826
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: I love that they aren't doing well and that it's

827
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: they don't they don't realize that it's affecting other people.

828
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's complex, but that's what I always say

829
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 5: to people.

830
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I like that.

831
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

832
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: What about on the other podcast with Cheryl Hines? What's

833
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: the what's a documentary you've watched recently that you wish

834
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: everyone would watch or that you just loved? You don't

835
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: have a documentary podcast with Cheryl Hines?

836
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: To you, I don't even know Cheryl. Such a good

837
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 5: brag though, Yeah, No, Cheryl and I have been pals forever.

838
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: A long time. I remember I was living with you,

839
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: like we were both just not much going on, and

840
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: you how did you become friends with her?

841
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Again?

842
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 5: She saw me do stand up and she we've been

843
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 5: friends ever since. She came up after just cacklin and

844
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: what have you, and we just have like non stop

845
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: silliness in our relationship. And so the documentary is just

846
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: a jumping off point to chat and whatever. But I really,

847
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: you know, I'm probably thinking of that that a fair

848
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 5: Nose documentary right now because my wife is watching the series,

849
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: and then she went back and listened to my episode

850
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 5: of the documentary for the documentary. And then there's also

851
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: the one called Chicken People that I really just.

852
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: Told me to watch that.

853
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Chicken People.

854
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: It's so silly. And then Donut King. I just watched

855
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: Donut King.

856
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: I heard of that.

857
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: Yea, it is so.

858
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 5: Great and it's not what you think it's gonna be.

859
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: When I first heard that we were going to be

860
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: watching a documentary about donuts, it's like, great, I love

861
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 5: a donut, man, is it? It's a it's a great documentary.

862
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it because so many people have described

863
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: it enthusiastically telling me to watch it that they just

864
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: tell me about it, and I'm like, well, no, I

865
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: don't need to see it.

866
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: No, it's it's worth It's so good and it really

867
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 5: surprised me. I'm also always a fan of like The Staircase.

868
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: It's you know, we I mean, I never get over that.

869
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of like the go to.

870
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've watched that twice.

871
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just so good. And and you know, there's

872
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: another documentary that I really love and it's so weird

873
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: to say that I love it because oh and obviously

874
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: you're a true crime person, Karen, but we would never

875
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: cover this particular one. But it's so devastating, is dear Zachary?

876
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh God?

877
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 5: Like I it's you know, I always tell people when

878
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 5: they say, why wouldn't you if you love the documentary,

879
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: it's so weird to say I love the documentary. But

880
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: when I say, it's just so, I truly had to

881
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 5: stop like three times and have a serious boohoo.

882
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

883
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: Actually, Chris, you and I lived together years ago when

884
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: I watched that documentary, and but yeah, I just I

885
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: love a twist and a turn, you know, That's what

886
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: I really love. And sometimes when documentaries will be just

887
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: very much just straightforward documenting something, I'm like, yeah, it.

888
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: Was good, it's fine.

889
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 5: I of going in and just being like, where is

890
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: this gonna go? You know?

891
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: Can I ask have you seen the documentary Tickled? Yes?

892
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: Yes I have, Yes I have. And we did an

893
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: episode of that as well.

894
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Oh good, okay, April Richardson and I saw that in

895
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: the theater and there was only about six other people

896
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: in the theater and when that movie ended, we all

897
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: turned to each other strangers and went.

898
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: Holy fuck.

899
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Everybody in the theater went crazy together as a group,

900
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: like what did we just watch? That was insane? It

901
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: was super funny. But I mean that that movie is like,

902
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. It is.

903
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: It is completely unbelievable and not what you think you're

904
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: going in for. And that is my favorite documentary.

905
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they watched I mean, not.

906
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: Tickled, but I'm saying that type where it's just like.

907
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, especially because the guy because I went and

908
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 4: saw it at the Silent Movie theater place and afterwards,

909
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: Nathan for you, Nathan Fielder or whatever his name is,

910
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: interviewed the filmmaker and he talked about how it was

911
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: strictly going to be a documentary about these weird wrestling

912
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: group like this HERB tickling groups like they were wrestling teams,

913
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 4: like that's an interesting sport that the and you watched

914
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: that happen in the in the documentary too. But he

915
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: really talks matter of factly about how it turned into

916
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: a different documentary as he was making it that yeah,

917
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: and you can't plan.

918
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: On that, but that is that usually is the thing.

919
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 4: I look for in a documentary, like where they're like, well,

920
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 4: now it's about this, Yes, our world.

921
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 5: That's what's incredible. Yeah, when you feel I hate when

922
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 5: I'm watching a documentary and you can feel the outline,

923
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 5: you can feel where they put in like uh, like

924
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: where you know the director is going, hey, why didn't

925
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 5: you do this? Or hey, sit here with your friends

926
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: and have a conversation and you know what, just that

927
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: whole vibe. I'm like, I just let's I know you

928
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 5: have to put in some of that sometimes to string

929
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 5: things along, I understand, but man, when you get some

930
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: of that grittier stuff in a document where you're just like,

931
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: what is this is?

932
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: Huh?

933
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

934
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: And during during the Q and A, the filmmaker talked

935
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: about how that weird the Ticklemaster guy who no one

936
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: he was pretending to be all these people he would

937
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: show up at screenings. He's actually a fan oddly of

938
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: the of the film, and he would ask questions really

939
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: like he's like, I I don't like how you showed

940
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: me in this. It's kind of like a negative light,

941
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 4: but I do like this about Like he would compliment

942
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: it even though it was about him being a villain.

943
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: He's like, it is good filmmaking. I'll give you that.

944
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: Like he he described it like.

945
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 4: The guy actually said nice things, and he would show

946
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: up and heckle and be insane because.

947
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: He's a he was a crazy guy and he has

948
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: the money to travel around to give basically to all

949
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: the screenings when it first came out.

950
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm looking around this room right now

951
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: because he very well could be here. And then that

952
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: added this element of fear with everyone watching. It was

953
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: such Yeah, I feel really lucky to have seen that. Also,

954
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: the new Jimmy Savile uh documentary about but it's it's

955
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: it's very gradual. You don't really see it coming. I

956
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: mean they allude to things, but it ramps up in

957
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: the end. Again, it's a tragic documentary, but it's so

958
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: fun to watch.

959
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 5: We're about to to I haven't seen it yet, but

960
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 5: we're about to do Bad Vegan.

961
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, it's great, Okay, but it's but

962
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: I will say this without giving spoilers. I found it. Uh.

963
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: I like, maybe and maybe this is similar to what

964
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: we're just saying, or maybe this is another type of

965
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: documentary where you kind of can't figure out who you

966
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: whose side you're on, or what you're supposed to think.

967
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I like that when it's not like here's the poor

968
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: people who are being exploited by the Ticklemaster, and here's

969
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: the tickle Master that we can't he's out.

970
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's what the staircase was. It's like

971
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: the way it flipped back and forth, it's so crazy

972
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 5: making or you're just like, wait.

973
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: A minute, this could be anything. Yeah, totally.

974
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: But oddly with that movie, I had seen the Unsolved

975
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: or the Forensic Files episode prior, so it kind of

976
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: was spoiled for.

977
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: Me for which one for the staircase.

978
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 5: It was, so what is just not to go off

979
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 5: on the staircase? But do you feel like that guy

980
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 5: did it?

981
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very very very much.

982
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: I do too, because well, I don't think it's Owls,

983
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 5: because he's definitely not.

984
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: But I'll so in the beginning when it was when

985
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: it was like a Forensic Files or whatever, those other

986
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: episodes where they would cover it the first time around,

987
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: when they covered it, they presented it as he definitely

988
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: did it, and this is what happened. And then there

989
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: was another there was almost like the reboot reapproach where

990
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: it was like he's actually been railroaded or whatever. And

991
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: then it was the reveal of what happened in court,

992
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: which was them saying he has had homosexual affairs with

993
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: sex workers. And then people are like, he's getting railroaded

994
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: because they don't like that in the North Carolina or wherever

995
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: they live in the South. And then this one was

996
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: almost like taking all of that ten years later and

997
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: being like, all right, well, now we're going to go

998
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: and basically just be in his house and you can

999
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: try to see if you can see for yourself, because.

1000
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: You know, what I thought was so interesting that Cheryl

1001
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 5: pointed out on that episode was that I completely missed

1002
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, there it is. There's the proof.

1003
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 5: There's the proof. But she said, imagine because when he

1004
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: called the police after she was found bloodied by owls. Yeah,

1005
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: but I guess that's an I guess that's an internet theory.

1006
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: Or no, it's in the it's in the documentary.

1007
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: His neighbor. His neighbor got attacked and then basically came

1008
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: and suggested it. And then then then it became okay, right, okay.

1009
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 5: So they have the audio of him calling the nine

1010
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 5: one one and they he told them, what, my wife

1011
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: fell down the stairs and come quick that type thing. Yeah,

1012
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 5: and then the obvious thing of first of all, if

1013
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: I found Stephanie at the foot of the stairs in

1014
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 5: a pool of blood, I wouldn't think she fell down

1015
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 5: the stairs.

1016
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: But Cheryl said, can you.

1017
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 5: Imagine your loved one is at the foot of the

1018
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 5: stairs in a pool of blood and hanging up the

1019
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 5: phone saying come quick, Like you would stay on the phone?

1020
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: What what do I do? What do I like?

1021
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 5: If you were in that real moment, you would be like,

1022
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: I'm not going to hang up the phone from the path.

1023
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be like, oh my gosh, my wife fell

1024
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 5: hurry click.

1025
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: You would be like, what do I do? What do I?

1026
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: What do I apply? Pressure? Do I? What?

1027
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: What do I do?

1028
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to see this is this is my

1029
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: lifeline taking to this person. And when she said that,

1030
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh.

1031
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great fucking point, such a great good point.

1032
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1033
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1034
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't hang up and then start cleaning up

1035
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 4: the place because you're a neat freak.

1036
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: No, I want to stay on the phone.

1037
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1038
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1039
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: Can I say what my moment of that was? And

1040
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: it was because at the same time that that series

1041
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: was on Breaking Bad was on and in like I

1042
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: watched that series and then and there was the part

1043
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: and I think it was like a couple It was

1044
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: like maybe the second to last episode or near the end,

1045
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: and he was he I think it was when he

1046
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: was out on bail and he was awaiting that trial.

1047
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: And and let's just say this, that trial was fucked,

1048
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: Like that blood spatter expert was completely fake. He was

1049
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: a liar, Like there were so many things in that

1050
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: case that were just like, it has to get thrown out.

1051
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: This is just not how you can't do trials like this.

1052
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: But my thing was, uh, I had just seen that

1053
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: this episode where he was out on bail and then

1054
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: the documentary documentarian was asking him questions and instead of

1055
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: standing there talking, he was doing stuff around the kitchen,

1056
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: and he kept opening and closing cabinets, right, and I

1057
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: was just like, what the fuck's he doing? Like he

1058
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: just kind of keeps opening and closing these cabinets. And

1059
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: then like that week in the episode of Breaking Bad,

1060
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: and it was near the end of the season of

1061
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, the main guy, Walter White is like talking

1062
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: to his wife and he had just buried something and

1063
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: done a bunch of shit right, and the wife is like,

1064
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: where were you last night? Whatever? And he's who wants breakfast?

1065
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: And he starts opening and closing the cabinets, and I went,

1066
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: oh fuck, oh fuck, that's right. That's what people who

1067
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: are lying do. They pretend like busy work. Yeah, so

1068
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: they don't have to make eye contact, they don't have

1069
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: to be still, they don't have to go what the

1070
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: fuck am I gonna do? This is crazy, I'm being railroaded.

1071
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: They do this kind of like.

1072
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: Look over here, look over here.

1073
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1074
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: Well, and maybe that's fake, but it was just to me,

1075
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: I went, oh, my god, that's the exact same action.

1076
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's so I mean, there's obviously so many gaping

1077
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 5: holes in that story. I also found it very odd

1078
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 5: when the the attorney gave up on his Michael's trial.

1079
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 5: And I was saying to Stephanie when we were watching

1080
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 5: it again because I've watched the series probably like three times,

1081
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: but I said, the way he's sitting on the couch

1082
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 5: with his kids and just saying, well, he's moving on

1083
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: from the trial, he's not going to rep me anymore.

1084
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: Should I just just say never mind? And to me

1085
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 5: that felt like if you were innocent you'd be like,

1086
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 5: you can't, you can't, We've gone this far? What do

1087
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 5: you mean, just to be like, well, he's tired of it,

1088
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 5: he's ready to move on. You know. I just felt

1089
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 5: like that was a little telling, because if I were innocent,

1090
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: I would be like.

1091
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, what do we do?

1092
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: What do we do?

1093
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: If you were innocent, don't you think you'd be like, hey,

1094
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: can you turn that fucking camera off? Like this is

1095
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: the moment of my life. There's more effort, there's so

1096
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: it's very performative, which also doesn't mean anything really except

1097
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: for this is the way we all go through the

1098
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: world going am I getting a good vibe from this person?

1099
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: Or do I not like this? And things like that.

1100
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I if somebody is like, it's the same thing when

1101
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: he came out of the courtroom and he started talking

1102
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: about how much he loved his wife, and because all

1103
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: the news cameras were around, and I was just like, yeah,

1104
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I do not buy this. This feels like

1105
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Speaker 1: bad theater class that I have been in it so

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Speaker 1: many times.

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Speaker 5: If something happened to Stephanie, I wouldn't want anything in

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: my house or anything going on. I would just you know,

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Speaker 5: there's no world where I would. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: even like to show my kids' faces on the internet.

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Speaker 5: I'd much less be, you know, parading somebody through our house.

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Speaker 5: And but you know, of course I still like everyone else,

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Speaker 5: probably probably everyone else, wonder why those kids of his

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Speaker 5: I believe he's innocent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were likable. That was what he had

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Speaker 4: going for him. As I watched that documentary, is like

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: his kids seemed It's like, why how would he have

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: raised these normal kids if he was this monster? That's

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Speaker 4: what kept me going. But yeah, at the end, he's like, well,

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Speaker 4: I've run out of ideas. I guess I'll go to jail.

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Speaker 2: That's such an admittance of guilt. Could be like, no, no.

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Speaker 1: What now what now what? Someone do something?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm free and I want to make sure

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Speaker 5: I'm free and I did not do this, and so

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Speaker 5: now what is next on the agenda?

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Speaker 1: Although, and just to Devil's advocate, because we also we

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Speaker 1: did on my favorite murder talk to that lawyer of his.

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Speaker 1: I liked him. I liked him a lot. He's super smart,

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Speaker 1: and we had him on. But I was like, so

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Speaker 1: did we totally get it wrong? And I said, is

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Speaker 1: there a ton we don't know that wasn't in the documentary.

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00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: And he said, there's a ton no one knows about

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Speaker 1: that trial itself, and how how it was such a

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Speaker 1: like a miscarriage of justice as a trial that like

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Speaker 1: that's what that's all I'm talking about, is that he

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: did not in any way get a fair trial, and

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: there was so much prejudice, and there was so much

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00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: pre like people found like literally in all these different ways.

1139
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: It's like, you're a rich guy, so fuck you, you

1140
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: did it. You're we heard about you hiring sex workers

1141
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: or gay sex workers. You did it, like all these

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Speaker 1: things all the way down. It's more so.

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Speaker 5: The other woman in your life fell down the stairs

1144
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 5: and died, you did it.

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Speaker 1: When it came to that part, I was just like,

1146
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I don't how you know, am I?

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00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: It's just so middle class that we never had. Second story.

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 5: Now I have in my office and I've always have

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: in my hands when I do a podcast is a

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00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 5: gavel and you know what guilty.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Guilty guilty, that's actual.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a gavel always when I'm doing a

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Speaker 5: podcast in my hands.

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Speaker 2: You've always wanted a courtroom show?

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Speaker 1: I have? Can I just tell you one more documentary

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: to recommend in case you.

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: Guys are listening, and then I have one, and then

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: I have one.

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01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, what do you mean in case we're

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 5: looking for him? That's what we do with our show.

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Speaker 5: You're like, we're not open to suggestion. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: My very favorite one is God damn it, no, I'm

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: not gonna be to remember it's it's the one. It's

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 1: called the Cruise about Timothy speed Levitch. He's the Gray

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Speaker 1: Line bus bus tour guide in New York City. Did

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Speaker 1: you ever see that one? It's black and white?

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's truly one of my top three documentaries ever, and

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: it is. It's unbelievable. It just is. It's a step

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: one man. Shut up. I also love Watership Down? Was

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Speaker 1: that a documentary?

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Speaker 5: We're still looking for documentaries.

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Speaker 2: The best?

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Speaker 4: But yes, I think of all time that it is

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Speaker 4: my favorite. That is so weird and bizarre as cat dancers.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, you've seen that, Karen, I love and I

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Speaker 4: did not. I mean, they allude to what happens.

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Speaker 2: It's but it is. You got to see it, Tig.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but it

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01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: is hilarious and mysterious and everything that I think they

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Speaker 4: were trying to make that Tiger King out to be.

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: Like every time everyone was freaking remember Tiger King fever.

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Speaker 2: Good Lord, that thing was huge.

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Speaker 4: Everyone was talking about it, and I just was like,

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Speaker 4: cat dancers, cat dancers, enough with the tigers.

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Speaker 2: Cat Dancers is the best. And that's all I'll say.

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Speaker 1: Cat Dancers is amazing.

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: But you got to watch it, tig It's so.

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Speaker 4: Even if you have to find it and pay money,

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 4: good hard earned money.

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: To see it, worth it. Also there's the Errol Morris documentary,

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Speaker 1: all of the Errol Morris ones, but there's Mister Death,

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable, like unbelievable Errol Morris. Mister Death, which

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: is about the guy. He's a guy who has basically

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01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: made the electric chair or like refurbished. You have to

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: see it, and that's he he like updated it. And

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Speaker 1: then the other one which is about pet Cemeteries, that's

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Speaker 1: called Gates of Heaven and it's Errol Morris. And that

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Speaker 1: one it's like a late seventies character study and it's

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Speaker 1: you just can't believe these people. It's the greatest. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 4: Wait and there's a temple grand in one the that

1203
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 4: came up with the the hugger, a comforting way to

1204
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: slaw cows, which was the reason I got one of

1205
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 4: those autism blankets, a heavy blanket. That's basically what they

1206
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 4: do is they put a heavy blanket on a cow.

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Speaker 1: It's sad, but it's.

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: Very You squeeze them and they feel warm and comfortable

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Speaker 4: in the very end.

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Speaker 5: And then you kill it.

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Speaker 4: Well as I know you are, and you're the reason

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Speaker 4: I still dabble with it.

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Speaker 5: Oh good, Yeah, you should dabble, dabble away.

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: Well, I live in an area where dabbling with veganism

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: is just a hop, skip and a jump away.

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Speaker 2: Usually I jump.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm I'm I'm trying, tig, I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: it's taking.

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Speaker 5: We're all trying. We're all trying. We're all goddamn day

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Speaker 5: every day, we're all trying.

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 4: To take you and hit the road and cheat on

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Speaker 4: with some chicken fingers. Anymore, you are one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I was real sold on the chicken finger menu diet

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 5: for I would say the first fifteen years of my

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 5: stand up career. But no, And it's funny because people

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Speaker 5: always ask that of you know what about the pandemic?

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Speaker 1: Did you cheat in the pandemic?

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Speaker 5: And it's that idea that I'm vegan against my will,

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Speaker 5: that I'm like waiting till no one's looking and I'm

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 5: just going to go via a cheeseburger. And it's the

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Speaker 5: you know, after I was so sick many years ago,

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Speaker 5: I just shifted my diet so so much and learned

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Speaker 5: so much. In fact, during the pandemic, I got a

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Speaker 5: plant based nutrition certification.

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Speaker 1: I know, yes, I love that.

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Speaker 5: And I've helped my next door neighbor who had high

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 5: blood pressure and through the pandemic we would zoom weekly

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 5: and he didn't end up having to get on medication.

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Speaker 5: I've helped comedians and anyway. So I'm like, I I

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 5: can help you too, and I can help it truly,

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I am sold on it.

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Speaker 1: It changed my life.

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Speaker 5: And there's no moment in my life with the knowledge

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01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: that I have that I'm ever thinking, well, I'll just

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01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 5: get a cheese ball, a wheel of cheese, a wheel

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Speaker 5: of cheese and some beef.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've been sold on it ever since.

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01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 4: Your peals, your Beth and Rick, who I missed a

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Speaker 4: lot but he got healthy.

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01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: That way he cured his cancer with raw.

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Speaker 4: Food, and I was like, I believe it and I'm sold.

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Speaker 4: And then I still go out and get my wheel

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Speaker 4: of cheese.

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Speaker 1: I know you do, Chris roll it all the way

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Speaker 1: home with a little stick. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I did for a while think I want

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01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 5: to to start what I want to do. I did

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 5: a streaming episode of talking about plant based food and

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 5: showing people easy recipes and stuff. But I was thinking

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01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 5: of spending a good part of my time consulting people

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 5: on zoom. And then I was like, I don't know,

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can do that actually, but

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 5: you know it's people are so interested and they're like

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 5: they have a foot in, and I just want to

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01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 5: be like, there is a way to do it without you.

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 5: You can eat good, delicious, healthy food and be plant based.

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Speaker 4: Well maybe I'll come over and you can just teach

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: me and then I can see your children's grown up faces.

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Speaker 5: Yes they are gigantic humans now, but I would love that.

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Speaker 5: If you ever want information, let me know.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: Let's all go stand in Tick's kitchen and have her

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Speaker 1: I would be thrilled real well. The idea that you

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01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: got certified is impressive. But it also is like, oh,

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: she means business like this is this is a true

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01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: interest and like.

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: I hadn't had an interest like this since I started

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: stand up. I got so into it and it's so

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 5: fascinating when you find out the power and the healing

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Speaker 5: power of food and and then it just becomes this

1282
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: puzzle of of just connecting everything to heal or to

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 5: boost or help or h It's it's really fascinating and

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 5: it's it's a very basic idea, but it's like if

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: you put the wrong gasoline in your tank, the car

1286
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 5: breaks or dies, and if you put in the high octane,

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01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 5: it'll it'll run.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'm one hundred percent interested. And I

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Speaker 4: really want you to teach me.

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Speaker 2: Because you look great.

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: You're like energy. You look like a kid again. You

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 4: look like you look like Tom Cruise is a kid.

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you card reader again, Well thank you, and

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 5: you both look wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I we set you up to say that.

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01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah it's been we're we're out of time.

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: But I was so great to see you again, my

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: friend Tiggoty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for doing this, tig thanks

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 5: for having me. I can't stress enough how much I

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: adore both of you, and and hope that I can

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01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 5: see you in the flesh again. I am in my kitchen,

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01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 5: in my kitchen, I will I loved it. I would

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Speaker 5: love it after this, Please do any plugs. I I'm

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 5: doing a bunch of tour days and and then you know,

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 5: the road goes on forever. But I'm at tignotaro dot

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Speaker 5: com and I have very unreliable social media out there

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: as well, but tagnotaro dot com. You can check out

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 5: my tour dates because I've got a bunch. But thanks

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 5: for hasking me. She really knows how to do stand

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 5: up comedy. Everybody I don't know. Yeah, just trust I

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 5: do stand up. Yeah, she does, She really does.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening to Do You Need a Ride? D

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Speaker 2: yn A. This has been an Exactly Right production.

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Speaker 1: Produced by Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: Mixed by John Bradley.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

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Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.

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Speaker 1: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar

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Speaker 1: podcast That's d y n Ar Podcast.

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Speaker 4: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hank Hank