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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Greetings, welcome inside, and happy Friday. Here on

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith,

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker in for Dan the Dan. That's today Rob,

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, man, Happy Friday to you. Jason, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you dude? I am awesome? Now you know

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Speaker 1: why because it's six am and no Jets have gotten

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Speaker 1: hurt today, So I am doing. I am doing just fine.

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Speaker 1: Day yesterday am on the West coast nine am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: so somebody's probably hurt. They got hurt getting out of bed.

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Speaker 1: Oh why do you got to put that out in

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere? Why are you gonna put that out in

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Speaker 1: the universe? Man? You do that to me? You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know how your team is. It just

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Speaker 1: it happens, and it's unbelievable to be honest. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was, in another life a Jets fan. I was

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Speaker 1: such a a football fan and a Jets fan as

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Speaker 1: a kid. And it's a true story. Jason, I would

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Speaker 1: not you know you're working. I was a shoe salesman

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Speaker 1: in New York and I went to my boss, Shelley Zimmerman,

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Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, Shelley, I don't work September through

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Speaker 1: December during football seasons on Sunday, like I'm out, don't

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Speaker 1: put me on the schedule. I have to watch the

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Speaker 1: Jets and the NFL on Sundays. You know, working in

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Speaker 1: the mall, you supposed to work on the weekends. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it's a pretty big demand to make there, you know,

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Speaker 1: as sixteen years old. Seventeen years old, that's what my

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Speaker 1: demand wasn't guess what They allowed me to be off

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Speaker 1: on Sundays during football season. I thought you're gonna say

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Speaker 1: they allowed me to be off on Sundays and every

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Speaker 1: other day the other day, right, I mean both Centori,

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Speaker 1: That's what would have happened, but not in this case.

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Speaker 1: They understood, you know, like my dream of being a

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Speaker 1: sports writer and you know, being into sports, and they

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Speaker 1: gave me that. I was always very fortunate because they

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Speaker 1: allowed me to be off during those time. And were

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Speaker 1: you always trying to you know, put give people's shoes

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Speaker 1: and talk sports with them too. Well. I was a

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Speaker 1: children's shoe store, so I was trying to keep the

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Speaker 1: kids from slobbering on my hand. Whenever I did their

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Speaker 1: shoe size, you know what I mean, on that machine

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what size they were. Kids would

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Speaker 1: normally tip their head down the look and then slab

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Speaker 1: would usually come out of their mouth. So I learned

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Speaker 1: that pretty quick that I needed to move my hand. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I will's well, hey, you know what that's being a

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Speaker 1: quick learner. I'll tell you because I you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't look well the certain things I know now when

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Speaker 1: when when it comes to sports and it comes to

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Speaker 1: my team's right, is that when I get because I

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Speaker 1: turned my phone off every day and every night when

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Speaker 1: know who's got my phone number. If there's a robotcall

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Speaker 1: to call me and they go, oh, well it's nine

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Speaker 1: o'clock here, yeah at six am here? What I just

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Speaker 1: got to sleep like three and a half hours ago.

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Speaker 1: What what? So I turned my phone off whenever I

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Speaker 1: turned my phone on in the morning. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get that that from you know, a couple of emails,

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Speaker 1: like a couple of voicemails that people call. But I

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Speaker 1: always know whenever I get up and I turned my

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Speaker 1: phone on and I hear I'm going, oh, something happened

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Speaker 1: with the Jets or the Mets something or the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Something happened. Because that's not normal for me. I go,

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Speaker 1: what happened? What happened? I get, I get up, I

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Speaker 1: get on the phone. I get to Twitter right away,

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Speaker 1: and I see the word Achilles trending and I go, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: is a szech Wilson. Why am I saying that? I'm

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Speaker 1: putting it on the atmosphere. I'm like, oh, my guys.

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Speaker 1: And I look and I see it's Carl Loss and

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Speaker 1: I go, oh, come on, man, our best player. Really?

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Speaker 1: But then I understand that this is just how it goes.

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Speaker 1: This is how it goes to the Jets, certain teams.

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Speaker 1: It's like you can't escape your identity and your reality

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Speaker 1: it is, just can't escape it. Just just just know

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Speaker 1: to two straight AFC Championship Games. Mark Sanchez has four

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Speaker 1: so now we're just we're just right back where we

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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's very sobering because I usually want

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Speaker 1: Now I'm like, okay, now the Jets got to get

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Speaker 1: me to the Knicks. And that's in November, so that's

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Speaker 1: a long way to go. It's like, come on, tick

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Speaker 1: just just get me to the next season. Just keep moving,

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Speaker 1: keep it moving. That's where I'm at, hey and real

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Speaker 1: quick on the Mets. This is not new Chili. Davis

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Speaker 1: people forget. They've been struggling offensively, and they did it

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Speaker 1: But they're hitting has been terrible all year and I'm

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Speaker 1: not surprised that. And then they had the worst task

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Bakers, doesn't I mean that's you're

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Speaker 1: just not gonna win. How are you gonna win? Facing

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Speaker 1: those two teams for thirteen straight games? Not a good look.

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Speaker 1: It's like war games, right, the only way to win

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Speaker 1: is not to play. That's that's that's how you do it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't show up. We can't lose, all right, that

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Speaker 1: might be the right thing. Jason Smith Rob Parker in

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Speaker 1: for Dan and a Dan. That's this morning. We got

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Speaker 1: some baseball. Coming up Later on in the show, we

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Speaker 1: have Amy Dash Fox Sports One League Aneless stopping buy

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Speaker 1: a little bit less than a half hour to talk

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Speaker 1: about all the latest developments involving Trevor Bauer. Could he

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Speaker 1: But we're getting set now for Week two in the

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Speaker 1: NFL preseason, and you don't rob The thing is I

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Speaker 1: like preseason football? I mean I know, so you're the guy.

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Speaker 1: You're the only one. You don't. I don't you don't

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Speaker 1: I was a columnist in Detroit, and I would, you know,

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Speaker 1: do Lions preseason game? But as a fan, come on,

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Speaker 1: you're lying to mean, man, that's the here are the Lions.

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Speaker 1: It was Detroit, there was there was no such thing

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Speaker 1: if you don't play those guys Jason Guides who have

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Speaker 1: That's why the Pro Bowl doesn't work. That's why people

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Speaker 1: and sports have seen their day and it's come and gone.

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Speaker 1: But I just like the fact that it's there and

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Speaker 1: good and who isn't. It's like a free month of

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Speaker 1: And you know you're gonna have rookies that look good.

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Speaker 1: What does it matter. Well, there you go. You just

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Speaker 1: WoT up the Lions. People have been saying, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is a year for the Lions. They got one playoff

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Speaker 1: win since nineteen fifty seven. But I've heard year in

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Speaker 1: and year round, oh yeah, well I got a new

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Speaker 1: he's there anymore, but but that's what I've heard for decades, like,

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Speaker 1: people if that's how you want to conduct your life

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the same story all the time. So

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Speaker 1: so you're not that the whole cam Newton mac Jones

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Speaker 1: think that's not interesting to you. None none of that

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Speaker 1: is none of all that stuff going on that's different

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Speaker 1: between you got two viable players and most of the

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Speaker 1: preseason is not filled with viable players. In this case, Sure,

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Speaker 1: this is a good storyline. I believe that Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: should be the starting quarterback because if he's not, he

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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be on the Patriots. They went out, they

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Speaker 1: made moves, they signed all these people. They spent more money,

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Speaker 1: Jason than you want to Saturday trip to the mall

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Speaker 1: with your daughter. Okay, you know, like they went out

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Speaker 1: and spent money. And remember their personnel was thin and

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Speaker 1: they still went won seven games last year and Cam,

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Speaker 1: and five or six how was it five starters opted

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Speaker 1: and still won seven games, and they went out and

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Speaker 1: short up this team. And I just think, not that

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is in the future, but if you you

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Speaker 1: got a guy like Cam, you got this team and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to make that next step. I think Cam

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Speaker 1: should be this daughter until he plays some games and

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Speaker 1: proves that he can't play anymore. That's how I look

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Speaker 1: I think this is a fixed quarterback competition that we

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Speaker 1: know what the outcome is gonna be. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna wind up being mac Jones and it's going

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Speaker 1: exactly how the Patriots thought it was going to go

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Speaker 1: in the top two or the top three of the league,

425
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And for him to be all

426
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: worked up and get his panties in a bunch, Oh,

427
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe they didn't say I'm the great dude.

428
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: This is year nineteen, Hello, Jason, is this microphone? Or

429
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: Lebron has been hurt two of the last three years

430
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: in LA? Am? I am I lying? Am I making

431
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: that up? He's been three years. Guess what year he

432
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: wasn't hurt. Excuse me, the year they had four months

433
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: off because of the pandemic. That was a year he

434
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. How in the world can he sit

435
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: there and not think that KD, who if he wore

436
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: a size fourteen instead of a seventeen, would have eliminated

437
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks in the playoffs? Remember what that ill fated

438
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: three that would have won the game instead of send

439
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: it into overtime. And you know, Yannis just won an

440
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: NBA Finals and got over his bugaboo, hitting seventeen out

441
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: of nineteen free throws to close it to close out

442
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: the championship. So no, he's not the best player. Those

443
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: two guys clearly are better, and I can understand why

444
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: people voted for either one. I would take KD because

445
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: to me, Jason, it would come down to, if you

446
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: need a basket at the end, who would you feel

447
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: more comfortable getting it, KD or Jannis. I'm going with KD. Yeah,

448
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: KD would get k D would get you, and he's click. Look,

449
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: these guys are both honestly, and this is the interesting

450
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: part about this topic is that both of these guys

451
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: and other guys I would take ahead of Lebron are

452
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: all basically Lebron at different phases of his career, right

453
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: like Yannis right now, he's Heat Lebron, Right like he's Lebron,

454
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: like he came because Jannie is really Lebron. Light Like,

455
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: here's a guy that came in all kinds of physical talent.

456
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: He's in a smaller market. Can he put it all together?

457
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Can you get all the right ingredients around him? And

458
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: you had enough right ingredients in a year in which look,

459
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: every star player got hurt, So there is a you know,

460
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: got to take that with a grain of salt. But

461
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: here's Yannis, who hey, he finally breaks through, just like

462
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: Lebron broke through when he won the title with the

463
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Heat and KD is like post Calves Lebron, Where Okay,

464
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: I've done everything, and now I can go do whatever

465
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: I want to do the rest of my career. Right

466
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: I want. I was, I was the best player in

467
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: the league for a while. I finally went. I validated

468
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: myself by winning titles. I won, was in three finals,

469
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Speaker 1: I won twice. I was the finals MVP and both

470
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: of them. Now I can go do what I want

471
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: to He goes to the nets. I'm now the best

472
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Speaker 1: Olympic player in basketball history after leading the team to

473
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: the gold medal a couple of weeks ago. So it's

474
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: like they're both in certain Lebron type parts of their

475
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: career where Yannis is heat Lebron, KD is postcast Lebron.

476
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, both of these guys and

477
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: I'll give you some other guys in a couple of minutes,

478
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: are both just more dynamic than Lebron is now. Right,

479
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Like Lebron is still a still a fantastic player, Right,

480
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: he's still one of the top players in the league,

481
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: but he's not a guy that's gonna go forty seventeen

482
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: and twelve anymore like he used to in his peak,

483
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: like we've seen KD do, and like Yannis does on

484
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: an almost regular basis. Right, whenever it came down to,

485
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: all right, well, we know Lebron could just take this

486
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: game over and on a night where it's not going

487
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: well for his team, or it's a playoff night where

488
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: you know the bench isn't coming through and the other

489
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: starters are missing, it's one of the Okay, this is

490
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: where I gotta go forty fifteen and twelve. He doesn't

491
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: do that anymore. He just can't. And with the Lakers,

492
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: what are you seeing now? They bring him in to win. Okay,

493
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Speaker 1: Lebron coming in wasn't enough. Let's add one of the

494
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Speaker 1: best players in the league in in a D. So

495
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis comes in, they win the title. Last year,

496
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: they're both heard it doesn't work. What happens now, Let's

497
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: add another big time, strong ball dominant player in Russell Westbrook.

498
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: So the more you can't say all Lebron is still great,

499
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: but it's more the more great players that they keep

500
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: having to add to Lebron. Now. So, I mean, I

501
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: get that he's using this as motivation, but this is

502
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: something that seems like it's it's pretty evident to everybody. Yeah,

503
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and the Lakers know it. And when

504
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: you sign up for Lebron, you know you're gonna gut

505
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: your team and do whatever you can to try to

506
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: win because his window keeps closing. But Lebron every time

507
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: he makes these proclamations and like he pushes back on

508
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: NBA America and you'll pay for this and this will

509
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: be my motivation. He didn't win. We've we've heard these before.

510
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know the Miami not two, not three,

511
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: not four, not remember that. It didn't happen a couple

512
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: of years ago when he came back up from his

513
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: injury with the lay and he had all the young

514
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: guys and he's like, hey, playoff molde activated you remember that?

515
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: And then they lost to like the Bulls and the

516
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: Knicks and all these bad teams and didn't make the playoffs.

517
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: So I've seen this act by Lebron and it doesn't

518
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: always work. Most of the time it doesn't work. And

519
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. Why does he even have to

520
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: feel compelled to do that? Go out and play? So

521
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: what if other people don't like your roster? Go out

522
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: and play and make it happen. And if you do,

523
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: then you could say, hey, you were wrong. But if not,

524
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll bring it up and go, hey,

525
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: you know what, when you guys said that this team

526
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: was old and that Russell Westbrook doesn't fit and whatever,

527
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: you were right? Have you ever heard that's the We

528
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: ever heard a player do that? Never. The only time

529
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: they say something is when it works out in their favor.

530
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: But I've never yet heard a player go, you know

531
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: what you were right that the team we put together

532
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: in Miami, we didn't win seven championships in the role

533
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: like I thought. We already won two out of four.

534
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for Ray Allen saving our bacon

535
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: and one of those, we would have been one in three. Yeah.

536
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: But still that was a success. I mean, you know

537
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: that was your kid. Really that was three finals and

538
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: one two. That's that's not about going Jason, How did

539
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: the Playboy Mansion or stand out Front? Which one are

540
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: you doing? Okay? I got in four times and I

541
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: had a great time twice. I take that. That's guy,

542
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: that's your No, I'm trying to get in. I mean

543
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 1: that it's Marv Levy, the greatest NFL coach. You went

544
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl four years in a row. Is

545
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that Marv Levy was a success in Buffalo going to

546
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: the super Bowl? Yes, No, Yes, that's a success. Going

547
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: to the show was not. Losing four super bowls in

548
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: a row is dubious. That ain't a success. Okay, but

549
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: people am going to four people in Buffalo. But but

550
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: but the but the heat won twice. How is that

551
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: not a success? You go? They had easily? How did

552
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: they lose to a Dallas team with one are go,

553
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: look at the also rans that were on that team.

554
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: They should have been Dallas. You know they should have

555
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: and they should look should they have one more? Yeah?

556
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: But I can't sit back and say a team that

557
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: won two out of four finals, as in what world?

558
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: Is that a failure for anybody and goes in nor

559
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: finals in any sport and wins two. If the Patriots

560
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: go to four straight Super Bowls under Cam Newton right now,

561
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: right you like camp for the starting job. If they

562
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: go to four straight Super Bowls and win two, is

563
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: that a failure? No? Because it wasn't the assembly that

564
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: Lebron put together a super team of three players drafted

565
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: in the same draft and demolished the Eastern Conference and

566
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: had it all set up for him. When he was

567
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: on that stage, Jason talking about not two, not three,

568
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: he meant it. They really believed they were gonna win

569
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: all these championships because they have had stacked the deck

570
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: in his favor. Everybody knows that, and it didn't turn out.

571
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything special winning three in a role

572
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: like Shack and Kobe and a couple other teams that

573
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: would have put them in special air winning two out

574
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: of four did not separate them from the pack. That's

575
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: why I'm saying for the standards that were set and

576
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: the players assembled, it was a failure. It didn't work

577
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: to be what people thought it would be. All right, then,

578
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: how is how do you how do you hate Tom Brady? Then?

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00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: The guy's got seven tom Brady? How do you how

580
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: do you say he's got seven rings? All he's done

581
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: is win? Okay, he's lost twice, but he's won seven

582
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: out of seven out of ten. How how is that?

583
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: How is that? Then? I mean Tom Brady is Tom

584
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Brady is the most accomplished quarterback in the NFL. My

585
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: point is he hasn't won. They give him credit as

586
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: if he's won every Super Bowl and it's all about him.

587
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, the early Super Bowls were about defense and

588
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: about Adam Veneti and and yes, as he played well

589
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: in spots when they beat the Rams a couple of

590
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: years ago. Tom Brady didn't throw any touchdowns in that

591
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: in that game. So let's not making like tom Brady's

592
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: the reason that they always win. He's been on the

593
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: team and he's been a big contributor, but he's not

594
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: the only reason. When that defense shut down the Saint

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Louis Rams the greatest show on turf and held him

596
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: the thirteen points or whatever it was in the Super

597
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Bowl that was unbelievable. Or when the defense shut out

598
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: the Falcons, who up twenty eight to three, shut him

599
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: out in the second half. Those are things that changed

600
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, That's all I'm saying. And he lost

601
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: to Eli Manning twice. How could you be the goat

602
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: if Eli beat you twice. He's got four Super Bowl MVPs.

603
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: He was the MVP in four of those games, four

604
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: times he was I mean, how does he go from

605
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: If it's all the Patriots, he leaves them, they go

606
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: under five hundred. The new team he goes to wins

607
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Was that defense unbelievable? Did you watch

608
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the second half of the Green Bay

609
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Packers game? It was? It was rough? Yes, Okay, okay,

610
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: talking about his defense held Patrick Mahomes to zero points

611
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl. You wanna tell me it's all

612
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady. But if I'm asking you, if he's

613
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: the common ingredient in all these wins, how can you

614
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: not give him the credit for being that great? I'm

615
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: not saying he doesn't deserve some credit. Not all credit,

616
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, Jason, all the credit. All right.

617
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Let me bring it back to a super team then, Okay,

618
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: So if it's if, if it's about a team, the

619
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Dodgers won the World Series a year ago. Right, Okay,

620
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: let's just say now that because they're the team that

621
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: that's assembled, they're assembled to win. They get all the players,

622
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: they make the trade for trade Turner, they make the

623
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: big deal for him, him and Max Scherzer. If the

624
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Dodgers go to the next four World Series and they

625
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: win two out of four, is that a failure? No,

626
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: because they hadn't one in thirty years. No, Lebron situation

627
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: is totally different. The Dodgers hadn't won one since the

628
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. So now if they were to win,

629
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: and I don't look at it as a failure, but

630
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and glorify

631
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: what the Miami Heat did when they were holds to win.

632
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: They had the team. Lebron went to eight straight NBA Finals.

633
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: That you think that going is enough and not winning?

634
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: To look Lebron James has lost more NBA Finals than

635
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: any other former regular season MVP in the history of

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Speaker 1: the NBA. I don't want to hang my hat on that.

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Speaker 1: But he's won four. I mean, he's not Marv Levy,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy. If the guy didn't win, I'd say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, the guy gets there. But there's got

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Speaker 1: to be something is the reason why he can't win.

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Speaker 1: But if you go more, say you lose more times

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Speaker 1: than he won, that's okay, but he still won four.

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Speaker 1: I'm not no one's saying he's not a great player, Jason.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to think I'm saying that he's

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Speaker 1: won four championships. Obviously he's He's ranked for me, the

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Speaker 1: second greatest player. He has a lot of numbers. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to deny he could wind up being the all

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Speaker 1: time leading scored. There's a lot of things that he did.

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Speaker 1: But when I look at some of the greats, to

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Speaker 1: me and I look at Goats, I look at Michael Jordans,

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Speaker 1: I look at Joe Montana, those guys to me, resonate

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Speaker 1: more when you talk about excellence in the big moments.

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Speaker 1: So the going to a finals is very little value

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Speaker 1: for you. If either you're going you win and getting

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Speaker 1: there doesn't matter, no, because you can if you tell

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Speaker 1: me going there ten years in a row and now

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Speaker 1: winning doesn't do anything for me. Okay about winning, I

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Speaker 1: always think, but all these guys have won. No, But

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Speaker 1: Marv Levy's a Hall of Fame coach and you're telling

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Speaker 1: me that that was a success in Buffalo. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how losing four in a row. Forget about going

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Speaker 1: four times in a forty year career, but losing four

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Speaker 1: in a row as a success, I don't see it

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Speaker 1: on the hotline for more on the NFL Senior NFL Reporter,

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Speaker 1: lead content strategist from Monday Morning Quarterback, it's Albert Breer.

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Speaker 1: You can follow on Twitter at Albert Brier. Good morning, Albert,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? What's happened? Good morning guys? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Westy? And we're fighting already, so it's a

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Speaker 1: good day. We were fighting. Hopefully hopefully I can hopefully

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Speaker 1: I can instigate some more of that. We were fighting

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Speaker 1: over which of your tweets we like the most? That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot, there's there's a lot of contenders,

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Speaker 1: so I don't fight you guys. How's your training camp

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Speaker 1: tours going? It's good. I mean it's pretty much it's

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Speaker 1: close to over now. I mean, I I, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to get to as many teams. I can't really

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Speaker 1: like the value in it for me is just seeing people. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I've gotten through twenty one teams. I'll

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Speaker 1: see a few more next week. UM yeah, but for

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Speaker 1: the most part, it's over and it's been good. Um

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Speaker 1: it's been good, you know. I I uh, it's always

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Speaker 1: good to get out there and kind of um get

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Speaker 1: I think the temperature for the league, and um, lots

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Speaker 1: of our interesting conversations and um, you know, planning it

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Speaker 1: is actually an enormous, enormous pain and logistics of it. Um,

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Speaker 1: I become like an expert on you know, making those

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Speaker 1: puzzle pieces fit together. But it's definitely worth it in

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Speaker 1: the end to help me out In New England, I

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Speaker 1: think Cam should start at If he's not starting, why

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Speaker 1: would he even be on that team? And I think

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Speaker 1: mac Jones's day will come. But I think with all

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Speaker 1: the moves the Patriots made a lot of guys those

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Speaker 1: the four or five starters were missing from COVID last year,

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Speaker 1: they still won seven games. I would start Cam, see

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Speaker 1: if this team has any legs, if he has anything left,

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Speaker 1: and then if not, you make that move. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it the other way. How do you see it? Albert? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think there are two pieces of like nuance here

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Speaker 1: that you know, I think a lot of people are missing.

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Speaker 1: The first thing is first round quarterbacks normally go to

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Speaker 1: bad teams more often than not for obvious reasons. This

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Speaker 1: year that's not really the case all, you know, if

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, the Jaguars and the Jets are rebuilding

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Speaker 1: and they'll be going with the guys from the start.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you look at the other three teams,

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Speaker 1: the Bears, the Niners, and the Patriots, all three of

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Speaker 1: those teams have been in the playoffs recently. Two of

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Speaker 1: those three teams have been in the Super Bowl recently,

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Speaker 1: and so the dynamics a little different in those three

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Speaker 1: prossly because of that. I mean, I think the other

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Speaker 1: thing that you sort of have to pay attention to,

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Speaker 1: notwithstanding what happened in Miami last year, Normally, if you

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Speaker 1: put your first round quarterback on the field, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You're not going back, you know. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that that's an important piece of nauance to set this

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Speaker 1: up too, and that I think, go with Cam and

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Speaker 1: they can switch to Mac. If they start with Mac,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think chances already you got to ride

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Speaker 1: it out all the ups and downs that you might

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Speaker 1: have to go through. The rookie quarterback. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right Rob, that they give it

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Speaker 1: a shot with Cam and see what it looks like. Cam,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, looked better last night. You know. I

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Speaker 1: thought his presence in the pocket was much improved. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened over the last week, but

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Speaker 1: it looked a lot better. I think the real question

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Speaker 1: with Cam is going to be what he's got left

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Speaker 1: as a runner, And I think it's a real question

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Speaker 1: because nobody's played the position the way he's played it

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Speaker 1: for as long as he's played it, and his body's

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of abuse, and so the Patriots aren't

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Speaker 1: going to put him out there and have him running

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Speaker 1: around in the preseason. So my guess is we don't

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Speaker 1: get answers on it until we get to the regular season.

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Speaker 1: But if he can be the runner or something close

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Speaker 1: to the runner that he was in Carolina, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's a real question whether or not you can

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Speaker 1: do that, you know, then I think you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy who can juice an already really good running

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Speaker 1: game and looks like he's you know, better as a

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Speaker 1: pastor than he was last year. And you give that

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Speaker 1: a shot, like you said, and if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: then I think you've got a young quarterback in mac

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Speaker 1: who if at least given a few weeks to kind

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Speaker 1: of digest the offense a little bit and adjust the

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Speaker 1: NFL a little bit more, and there's lots of a

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Speaker 1: chance that you're going to go through in that scenario

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Speaker 1: an elongated bumpy period. So I look at the whole

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Speaker 1: thing and I just think, you know, for all three

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Speaker 1: of the teams that have you know that that took

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks after the first two, there's a likelihood that they

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Speaker 1: start the season with the veteran, knowing that the gay

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Speaker 1: patch of going to the rookie is going to be

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Speaker 1: there for that, all right, Albert. Elsewhere in New England,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of headlines made this week. You

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Speaker 1: talked about some potential successors to Bill Belichick in New

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Speaker 1: England and you had the name Bill O'Brien come up,

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Speaker 1: and it was, oh, my goodness, Bill O'Brien, he would

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Speaker 1: get there and trade everybody. When you look at what's

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Speaker 1: next for the Patriots, like how feasible would it be

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Speaker 1: for Bill O'Brian Would he be at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. Take us through that a bit. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean here's where I would say, I start here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Belichick is going anywhere for a while.

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Speaker 1: Like so, I think it's going to be a few

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Speaker 1: years before this is a serious question that we have

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Speaker 1: to answer. Here's the other thing. It would Bill O'Brian

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Speaker 1: be a bigger reclamation project now than Bill Belichick wasn't

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Speaker 1: two thousand. I mean, it's easy to forget like what

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's reputation was coming out of Cleveland, and even

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Speaker 1: you know, as he started to rebuild his stock and

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Speaker 1: an assistant with the Patriots and then the Jets, there

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Speaker 1: were questions, you know, is he really a head coach?

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Speaker 1: You know, Ken he managed an entire team. Everybody knew

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Speaker 1: he was a great defensive coach, but there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about that, you know. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think what that the decision to hire him in

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Speaker 1: two thousand came down to was Patriots ownership having real

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Speaker 1: faith that he was the right guy. And I know

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Speaker 1: they think very highly of Phil O'Brien. I think Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien's really smart. Bill O'Brien one with some mediocre quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: before they got to Shaun Watson, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: helped develop DeShawn Watson. And you know, I think if

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Speaker 1: you look at a tracker or just as a coach

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Speaker 1: and like, let's take the other part out of it,

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Speaker 1: just as I think he's been pretty good and now

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go coach for Nick Saban and Alabama. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I just look at like the different pieces here,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he made some really questionable personnel decisions. There's

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Speaker 1: no defending that if you just look at him as

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Speaker 1: a coach in a vacuum, like his tracker is a

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Speaker 1: lot better than a lot of other people, including you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think Bill Belichick's track record was back

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Speaker 1: in two thousands. So the idea he could reservice as

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Speaker 1: an NFL coach NFL head coach isn't crazy to me

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Speaker 1: at all. And I do think that there are still

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Speaker 1: people in New England who've worked with him who I

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Speaker 1: believe them. Hey, Albert, I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvagh because he has loaded up the Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: basket and just ranted and raved he's the Messiah and

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Speaker 1: they better go to a Super Bowl. Jason, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about failure. I mean, the talk about Matthew Stafford and

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Speaker 1: what Sean has done. Has he put a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure on Stafford because anything less then going to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl will not get it done for the Rams,

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Speaker 1: because he's been made out to be the missing piece.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who's played twelve years and I

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Speaker 1: watched Matthew Stafford from day one, as you know in

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Speaker 1: Detroit for a long time, but who hasn't won a

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Speaker 1: playoff game or a division in twelve years in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Is this are we going to find out about Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford and about McVeigh. I mean there's pressure on everybody there,

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Speaker 1: don't you think, you know? I mean, like I I

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Speaker 1: look at the I look at the roster and kind

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Speaker 1: of where they're at. Um, they're not first round picks

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Speaker 1: for the next two years. Um. And if you look

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Speaker 1: at the core, um, the guys who've sort of made

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Speaker 1: up the top level of that roster, you know it's

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods, Andrew Whitworth,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. All of those guys are either right in

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Speaker 1: the heart of the prime of their careers or on

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Speaker 1: the back end. Right, So you look at that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's to the fact, you know, their salary cabinet in

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Speaker 1: a win now sort of way, and they've sold off

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Speaker 1: some of their future draft picks to make this roster

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Speaker 1: what it is. You know, I think that pressure on

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Speaker 1: everyone in that building, and Stafford is part of that,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's a team that's kind of invested

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Speaker 1: very much in the here and the now. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they don't have a prep plan for tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: they're very very invest in the here and now. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, Sean as much as

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Speaker 1: anything else, is very cognizant the psychology of his team,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think he's preparing them for what's coming.

851
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Speaker 1: And what's coming is there's very pressure on you to win,

852
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Speaker 1: and you know, for the first time in a while,

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00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: like that franchise like they may be in the spot

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Speaker 1: that you know, like say like a New England or

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or one of those one of those sorts of

856
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Speaker 1: teams has been in for a long time. You lose

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Speaker 1: a couple of games in a row, and the sky's falling,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I think one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: Sean's you know, talking the way he is. An addition

860
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Speaker 1: to be really really confident in the group. I think

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Speaker 1: is to prepare them for what's ahead, and what's ahead

862
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: for them is a lot of pressure on them to

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Speaker 1: win right now based on the construct of their of

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Speaker 1: their of their roster. Albert Brier with us here on

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show. Jason Smith, Rob Parker in for

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Speaker 1: Dan today. Albert, I know you were just at Bucks camp.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Antonio Brown situation, the helmet yankee

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Speaker 1: and the punch. I actually, unfortunately, as Uhlan, I like

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Speaker 1: camp fights. I'm not like the coaches pulling it. I have.

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Speaker 1: I have a great time out there watching those. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately I was. I actually was there the wrong day.

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Speaker 1: I think that no Thursday, and I was there on Wednesday,

873
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Speaker 1: So I just missed it by a day. All right, Well,

874
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: with all the fall out of it, you guys, you

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Speaker 1: guys are in the media too. Everybody loves a good

876
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: camp fight, right, Oh sure, absolutely, you know it breaks

877
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Speaker 1: up and when when's that first camp? Okay, now we

878
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: could talk about it, uh you know, seeing what you

879
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: were able to glean there, you know, as far as

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00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown went fight, notwithstanding you said he looks like

881
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: he's really hitting his stride and playing well, and the

882
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: Patriots maybe not one of those teams where I hey,

883
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: they got to the top of the mountain. This year

884
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: they're coming down. You think maybe they got another gear

885
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: in them for this season. Yeah, And I know like

886
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: that they feel like, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that came together at the end of last year

888
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: that might have another step in them, you know what

889
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, um, you know, the way the pieces

890
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: on the offensive line came together, the way the um

891
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, they had a lot of new pieces last year.

892
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: They had they were you know, playing some young guys

893
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: and key spots and um, you know, I think having

894
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: gone through the experience of last year for them and

895
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Speaker 1: seeing where at the end of November, you know, and

896
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: that was a team like we were all asking questions

897
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: about them before they really took off, and so, you know,

898
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: I think rightfully so like they look at it and

899
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: say to themselves, we were just kind of hitting our

900
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Speaker 1: stride when we got in the role and won the

901
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And you know, if you look around at

902
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: the roster and the ages of the guys in the

903
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: roster and they're older guys too, you know, you got

904
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Speaker 1: to monitor that. But you know, I think that they

905
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: feel like they're older guys can maintain. If their older

906
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Speaker 1: guys can maintain, there are a group of young players

907
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Speaker 1: that really could help kind of that group find another gear.

908
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: And so it was really interesting washing and then talking

909
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: to them about the way, you know, and it's not

910
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Speaker 1: just Brady, but like JPP on defense, the way guys

911
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: that are there that have won championships are kind of

912
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: regulating that place right now and making sure that no

913
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Speaker 1: one gets complacent. And I mean the way that the

914
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Speaker 1: veteran players have like kind of their foot on the

915
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Speaker 1: throat of the young players to make sure nothing slips.

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Speaker 1: It's a really really impressive operation right now. And again,

917
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Speaker 1: like you know, we're only going to get to see

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Speaker 1: it for another two or three years because of the

919
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Speaker 1: ages some of the guys on the roster. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: for right now, I mean, it looks like a machine,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I just yeah, go ahead, al but

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Speaker 1: I just can't. I wouldn't you. There was seven and

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Speaker 1: five and they got it going. We're bad teams that

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00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: they played. I mean, go look at the end of

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00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: the season when they got right and then they got

926
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and things worked out for him and

927
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Speaker 1: they won. I'm not going to take that away, but

928
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Speaker 1: they beat the lines a couple of times Atlanta. I

929
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: mean at the end when Tom Brady put up, go

930
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: look at who they beat the last five games, and

931
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Speaker 1: I wasn't impressive. I understand that. I understand that, but

932
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Speaker 1: you only play who you're playing. And they felt like

933
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Speaker 1: they were starting to play really well, and like what

934
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Speaker 1: do you see the look look who they beat in

935
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Speaker 1: the playoffs in Washington. Tom Brady through three three interceptions

936
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Speaker 1: at Green Bay of Drew Brees through three interceptions for

937
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: our let's go on and on and on, ready to

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Speaker 1: crown them. That was a really good Packers team. And

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Speaker 1: Brady didn't play perfect in that Packers game. And I

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Speaker 1: think Brady threw a couple interceptions of his own and

941
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Speaker 1: they were able to overcome that. You know, all right,

942
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Speaker 1: we need another time, Albert to me and you can

943
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Speaker 1: go at it. We don't have Tom. I gotta get

944
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Speaker 1: you on the odd couple, all right, Hey, Rob, I

945
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: got some hooks. Four. Look at the roster and fine,

946
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Speaker 1: where there's a fine, whether there's a hole for me

947
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: on that roster, fine, fine where there's like a problem

948
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Speaker 1: on that Rood. They got a good team, but they

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Speaker 1: also beat the Chiefs who had a decimated offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I'm everything worked for them. That's bad. Don't like the

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Speaker 1: water Boy. They didn't just beat the Chiefs. They crushed

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean that was like, like that's the

953
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: thing about it, like and the offensive line things, dallad.

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00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like that was the Chiefs offensive line being

955
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: what it was, not having their tackles for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It's a major deal. Any team would suffer from that,

957
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: that said, I mean they kicked the Chiefs and the

958
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Speaker 1: teeth like that was like a beat down, like the

959
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Speaker 1: level of I mean like when I was growing up,

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: like all the Super Bowls were bad games, right, like

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Speaker 1: like that was like a late eighties, early nineties like

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Speaker 1: NFC on AFC style, like just beat down. He's on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Albert Brier, that is at Albert Breer. Albert

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Speaker 1: has always thanks a bunch of stopping about. Appreciate you soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks guys, have a good weekend. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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969
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