1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: A media We's so, y'all's your favorite cousin. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: I just came over. You feel me, y'all don't have. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: No cousins that just kind of pop up, just be 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: at the house like like a ninety sitcom where you 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: don't knock on the door, you just be walking in. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't my life, mainly because most of the cousins 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: on my mother's side lived on the other side of 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: the country, and then my cousin's on my father's side, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: since we lived in gang infested areas, you didn't just 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: pop up. That was just not the safest thing to do. 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: But I'm doing that at your house. And you know 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: what happens when you have cousins come over. Well, now, 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: a small percentage of y'all are black, but a lot 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: of percentages y'all grew up poor, which means that you 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: got whoopings just. 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: Like we did. 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: So you know, usually when your cousin comes over, somebody's 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: getting We all somebody getting in trouble, and it's usually 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: you because you're supposed to know better. I never got 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: more spankings then when my cousins came over, because we 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: would just get into stuff. And then since I'm the 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: one that lived there, and I was cutting up in 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: front of company. 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 2: I ended up getting into most trouble. 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Anyway, this isn't where I'm working out trauma, although it 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: is called it can happen here podcasts, So I feel 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: like we all collectively working out trauma of being Americans. 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: And lastly, on the rambling preamble, I got a dog. Now, well, 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: my daughter got a dog. And to all the parents 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: that listen, you know when your child gets a pet, 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: who's pet that actually is? So I find myself doing 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot more chores than I signed up for. But 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: it's a pug, and it keeps trying to eat the 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: cat's food. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Therefore it's got liquid doodoo. And I'm not a fan 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: of that. 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: And since I get to work in my pajamas because 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm just recording podcasts and rap music back here, seems 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: to fall on me to scoop up this liquid doodoo. 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: But that's only when she eats the cat's food. Stupid dog, 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: eat your own food. 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm here to talk about something that you can 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: do nothing about. All right, y'all ready here we go, 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: a brother like me who bleeds Los Angeles. You cut 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: me open and Pacific Ocean salt water comes out. You 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: poke my lungs and smog pours out of me. I 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: could work for the Tourist Department of Los Angeles. I 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: love this city at an unhealthy level. There are things 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: about this place that is absolute trash. Don't get me wrong, 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: there is a lot wrong with this city. With this place, 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the ground shakes up under us. We've been such a 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: horrible steward as to how to take care of this land. 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna include myself, even though I am not the 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: invasive colonizer. But there are really only nine native trees 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: to California, two of which are not the palm tree 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: or the eucalyptus. The plants that are here naturally are 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: drought resistant and fire resistant. 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: They don't burn that easy. 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: The ones that burn up real quick are the sycamores 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and the palm trees. 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: And if you may have noticed, Los Angeles hit a 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: bit of a dry spell recently and had quite the disaster. 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Now, I'm slowly backing that thing up into what we're 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk about right now, which you should probably know 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: if you have already read the show title when you 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: clicked play. But I'm gonna back that thing up into it. 67 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: California catches fire every year in some location. Now, my mother, 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, Mama prop she worked thirty years for the 69 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: La County Fire Department, you know, in the city of Westkovina. 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Because almost six two sixer and I have vivid. 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Memories of the different firemen, fire chiefs. I think I 72 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: talked about this in the La on Fire episode. Block 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: is literally Hot on the Hood politics show, which hopefully 74 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: you guys are supporting and listening to also. 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: But even my boy Chris. 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Who's you know, firefighter, you know, been fighting the fires 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: out here. Everybody knew that one day this day would 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: come and that let's just say, all of the bureaucratic 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: failures had not happened. If the water was as full 80 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: as possible, the fire hydrants were fine, if everything was 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: the budget, if everything was done perfectly, this was going 82 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: to happen. 83 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: This day was going to come. That it's a perfect storm. 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: We were had a specific type of drought, lack of rain, 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the Santa Ana winds, and then a fire sparking, and 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: that fire sparking in a densely populated urban area. It 87 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: was every fireman I knew was like, yeah, one day 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. And like I said in the last episode, yeah, 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: like you know, we could find ourselves a time machine 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: and practice the indigenous practices. 91 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Actually, as a small little beacon alike, there's an area 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Alta Dina that was actually given back to the Tongla 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: tribe many years back. There was a first like actual 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: land back given back to the tribe and they started 96 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: taking care of the land the way that their elders 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: and ancestors did. And guess what, that area didn't burn 98 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: anyway in the midst of this disaster that we were 99 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: having a desperate, desperate man who I completely understand is desperation. 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: On Tuesday night on January seventh, while the fires were 101 00:05:53,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: just rumbling through the palisades, a man named Keith Posserman, 102 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: who's the co founder of a real estate investment firm, 103 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: desperately took to Twitter and said, does anyone have access 104 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: to private firefighters to protect our home? Need to act 105 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: fast here all neighbors houses burning, will pay any amount. 106 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: There was another click of Rick Caruso, who almost in 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: a multiverse situation, is our mayor, a billionaire developer who 108 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: owns the grove on the West Side. Just that if 109 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you ever watched TMZ, whenever somebody's walking out of a place, 110 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: it's probably at the grove and was a you know, 111 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: real estate magnate. Anyway, there are videos of him driving 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: through an area that he had with his private security 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: and private firefighters where it's smoke billowing all around the place, 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: but his situation was fine. Why because he had private firefighters. 115 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: They shaved this shopping center, but he tried to unsuccessfully 116 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: save nearby homes as well, which reminded everybody about the 117 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: time that Kanye and Kim tweeted about their house being 118 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: saved by firefighters. 119 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: And which made people be like, wait a minute, you 120 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: can buy a fire department, man, What the hell is this? 121 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: What type of shit? Man? What we over here arguing 122 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: over firefidrants. 123 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: And tanks running low and somebody just paid them where 124 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: they get the water from? How the hell you can 125 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: just Oh my god, what the hell. 126 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Water you using, nigga, that's not your water? And what 127 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: you gonna do? Are you gonna help out the neighbors? 128 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so if I buy fire department five apartment, show 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: up from my house, but the neighbor's house is burned, 130 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you just gonna leave a neighbors house, you gonna tell 131 00:07:59,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: them to. 132 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: Call the city's fire department. What the hell is happening? 133 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: How does this shit work? Is there any other way 134 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: rich people can be evil? What is happening right now? 135 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Which is basically what happened and how most of the 136 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: regulars felt. So this episode is not just about private 137 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: fire departments, because that would not be a very interesting 138 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: full episode. It's about the question that private fire departments 139 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: bring up, which is like nigga, whose water is that? 140 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, who owns the water? Is the water 141 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: private too? 142 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: And if the water's private too, what else of my 143 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: utilities are private? And this is what I mean by 144 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: there is nothing you can do about it. 145 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: Now. 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: If there is any of you that are built like 147 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Robert and Magpie, then maybe you ain't gotta worry about this. 148 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Maybe you could dig your own well and find the groundwater. However, 149 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: there are things called water land rights, which I will 150 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: talk about into this. 151 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: So even if. 152 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: You move off the grid to live on a mountain, 153 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: you find somewhere in the backwoods, you know fou Aca 154 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: is away from Magpie wherever the hell Magpie live, and 155 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: you dig to find some water, somebody owned that water. 156 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: It already happened here, y'all. Let's go all right, this 157 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: may or may not be a shock to y'all. I 158 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: know in the first the block is literally hot episode 159 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I did way way, way way back when I first 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: joined when kuols On Media first launch, when I first 161 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: joined the team, my first episodes. It was one of 162 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: those things where it's like the thought has probably never 163 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: crossed your mind, and and some of it's like sitting 164 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking to y'all who pay bills. Some of this 165 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: stuff is sitting right up under your nose, Like Southern California. 166 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Edison is one of our power companies. But then there's 167 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: PG and E. This isn't the city of Los Angeles 168 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: providing this, That's a company. In the same way that 169 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: your internet from a company. What makes you think your 170 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: power don't come from a company. And if your power 171 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: come from a company and an internet come from a company, 172 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: why wouldn't your water come from a company? I like, well, 173 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what would make you think that that's 174 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: just a city municipality? Well, because duh, because water fall 175 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: from the sky. What the shit? So what I'm paying 176 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: for you to pump it through the through the dog 177 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: on pipes. For me, I understand that that's a service, 178 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: But what the hell of my taxes for you somebody 179 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know if you noticed, you can own 180 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: the rain. So the water that fell inside the lake, 181 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: somebody bought the lake. This is the episode that I'm 182 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: going to tell y'all. Right now, so your utilities, most 183 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: likely your city has sold your water and your sewage 184 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: processing to a private company. And the bills that you're 185 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: paying your water bill is not going to the city 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: for the service you are receiving. It is paying the 187 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: company back the money that the company paid your city. 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: To get this gig. 189 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Let me back up here first, let me cover the 190 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: private fire departments. Now here's the thing. Private fire departments 191 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: usually are hired by insurance companies. So what they do 192 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of time is like prevention. They'll come in 193 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: here and you know, clear out shrub, make sure that 194 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: your house is not like set up for failure. 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: You know. 196 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: In California, I mean, people always talk about our strict 197 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: laws and building codes and it's like, well, nigga, do 198 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: you see why every time you got a bureaucratic law, 199 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: like there might be a historical evidence as to why 200 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: we need that, one of which is my nigga. 201 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: California ain't got a lot of water. 202 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: So if you gonna build a house, you can't just 203 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: have dry shrubbery up around your house. Why because you 204 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: just basically put a some matches just around your house. 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: So yes, bam, like that's why you can't do that. 206 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: Why you not allowed to have a lot of trash 207 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: in your house? Nigga? 208 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: What I mean, what the hell you think? Because this 209 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: shit'll catch on fire. So these private companies, private fire 210 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: companies usually come through and again they hire body insurance 211 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: companies normally to come and clear shrubbery, make sure that 212 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: your lint, your dryer is uh cleared out, make sure 213 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: your HVAC is good. And usually they got their own 214 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: little tank, right, So they come in with their own 215 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: little tank of water that's stay private water that basically 216 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: they bring in their bottle water. 217 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Why the rest of us 218 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: is using. 219 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Tap right, But eventually that little tank go run out, 220 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: you feel me, And then at that point you got 221 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: to tap into the fire hydrant. Right now, What most 222 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: of these companies will say is like the guys were 223 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: not monsters, dude, Like, if the neighborhood is on fire, 224 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: of course we're going to help. What are you, like, 225 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Which I truly believe for 226 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: this reason. If I'm paying to protect this house, but 227 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: the neighbor's house is on fire, that probably means that 228 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: the neighbor's house is going to cause my house to 229 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: catch on fire. So of course it would be in 230 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: my best interest to help put that one out. According 231 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: to the New York Times, they reported that, yeah, good, 232 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: forty five percent of all firefighters working in the United 233 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: States today are employed privately. Right now, a lot of 234 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: those are like wildlife suppression. Now, there's such thing as 235 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: called the National Wildlife Suppression Association, which represents more than 236 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: like three hundred private firefighting groups, and a lot of 237 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: them work more as like government contractors, right, as far 238 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: as like again supplement for like wildfires, right and like 239 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I said, the others are hired by private companies. 240 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: Yo, and peak. 241 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: This like a little two person private firefighting crew with 242 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: a small vehicle, I mean it could cost like three 243 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: granded day. Like a large crew of like twenty firefighters 244 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: and four trucks can run ten thousand dollars a day. 245 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: This is according to Brian Weelock, the vice president of 246 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: the Gray Back Forestry. It's a private firefighting company in Oregon. 247 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: But most of the time, like I said, these people 248 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: don't really work directly with homeowners. But that's not what's 249 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: the interesting part of this story to me. The interesting 250 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: part of this story to me is the reality of 251 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: the utilities that we live in. Now, let me go 252 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: ahead and run off some statistics to you. I just 253 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: want to go ahead and add to the dystopia that 254 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: we live in because we need to say, we need 255 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: to change the name of this show too. 256 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: It has happened here. 257 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna link all this data to. 258 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: The show notes. Now you're ready for this. 259 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: Water and wastewater service privatization follows broader trends. More than 260 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: forty percent of drinking water systems nationwide are private regulated 261 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: utility systems. Of the sixty percent of the systems owned 262 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: by local governments. Privatization by contracting of operations management has 263 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: grown rapidly since two thousand and one. Nationwide, the privatization 264 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: of water wastewater grew by thirteen percent after growing eighty 265 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: four percent over the decade. 266 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: In the nineteen nineties. 267 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Right, So what that means is almost half of y'all 268 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: are paying a private company for your water. Now, let's 269 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: make some distinctions here between public utilities and private utilities, 270 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: and you. 271 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: Know what are we even talking about? 272 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: So public utilities are owned and operated by your local, 273 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: state and federal governments on behalf of the citizens and 274 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: customers in that area. So up, public utility would be 275 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: your municipal water, sewage, sanitation services, like if you have 276 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: a public electricity providers, government government ran public transit systems, 277 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: state owned telecommunication companies, public utilities right now, listen, here's 278 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: where it's interesting. Have to balance serving the public interest 279 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: while remaining financially sustainable since they are not profit driven. 280 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: Any revenue earned is invested back into maintaining the infrastructure 281 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: of the operations, which seems like a big old dug. 282 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: We're not here to make money. This is not our 283 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: money making interest. This is living, right, It's a utility. Like, 284 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: it's just I'm not trying to make money off it. 285 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep the lights on, right, But as 286 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: we know, it costs to do those things, so the 287 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: temptation becomes easy to be like, how do I offload 288 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: this cost right and make sure that this service is there, because, 289 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: as you know, oftentimes public utilities don't be very good. 290 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Flint still ain't got fresh 291 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: water right now. Altadena is in a situation where they 292 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: was like, look, don't even boil the water, like whatever 293 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: coming out of your tap is just not good. 294 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: Boiling is not good enough. Like, do not drink this water? 295 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: Right is the situation that they in and it's like, 296 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: we're where the money at, Like, how are we going 297 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: to fix this? 298 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: Now? That's a public utility. 299 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Now, private utility is utilities obviously owned and operated by 300 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: private companies. So that would be an investored owned electricity 301 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: company like a private telecommunication, private owned oil gas and pipelines, 302 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: and private owned waste management companies. Now, their goal, because 303 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: it's a company, is still to make profit for their 304 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: shaitareholders while also delivering reliable service. Now, they argument their 305 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: defense would be, if we don't give you a good product, 306 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: we won't have customers. So it is in our best 307 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: interests for our own money to give you a best service. However, 308 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: are you seeing the truck size hole in their logic? 309 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: Nigga, we don't have a choice. 310 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a choice as to what water company 311 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: provides the water to your house? Who go run the sewer? 312 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't have an option anyway. So the key differences 313 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: are very obvious. 314 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Right. One is the ownership and motives. 315 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Like publicly owned utilities serve the public interests rather than 316 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: pursue profits. Right, private owned utilities are there for their 317 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: investors in the maximize returns. 318 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: Regulation and pricing. 319 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: Public utilities are regulated by the government apported commissions that 320 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: oversee pricing. Private utilities are also regulated, but usually more 321 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: flexible in their rate setting, because what the hell you 322 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? Get you a called a water company, be like, 323 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: I ain't paying this bill. They gonna be like, ool, 324 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: no problem. Service areas most publics utility service customers are 325 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: within municipal boundaries. Investor owned utilities often are defined by 326 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: regional monopolies with little overlap or competition with customers. Listen, 327 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: if you ever moved into an apartment and you was like, y'all, 328 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to, like, you know, install cable, and they 329 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: was like, or your Internet. It was like, oh, it's 330 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: at and t over here. I was like, oh, but 331 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: I have spectrum. They're like Spectrum don't serve this area. 332 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: Nigga. 333 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: It's the Internet, it's the air, it's wires, this polls 334 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to. U can't come over here because 335 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: it's a private company. Now I'm in a situation where 336 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: AT and T knock on my door every day and 337 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: being like, yo, we laying fiber optics. You know we 338 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: lay we laying new pipes down here, up under you, 339 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: up under your street. 340 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: We can move faster than Spectrum. 341 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: I done ditch them both, and then Spectrum still email 342 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: me every day s Bectrum sent somebody was like, we 343 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: heard you left Spectrum. We're trying to figure out why. 344 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm like nigga because I don't want to use either 345 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: of y'all, but we're the area you serve. When I 346 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: first moved into the house that I'm in now, like 347 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: I made an account on Edison and they were like, oh, nigga, 348 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: Edison don't serve here. You had SoCal Gas And I 349 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: was like, who the hell is so cal Gas? They 350 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: was like that's who's who else gonna give me the gap? 351 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: I don't have no options. Oh, I got to live 352 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: in LA. 353 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: This is who serves LA infrastructure spending with public utilities, 354 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: they might find it easier to raise funds for long 355 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: term capital projects and maintain infrastructure proactively, while privately owned 356 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: businesses and utilities answered to shareholders seeking returns, which impact 357 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: investment decisions. Meaning, if I'm like, Yo, somebody gotta clean 358 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: this sewer pipe because this water ain't good in this neighborhood, 359 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: it would be whove the City of Los Angeles to 360 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: fix this, and it would be easy for them because 361 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: I am a Los Angeles resident. This is a public utility. 362 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: If I have private water, they might be like, oh, 363 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: how much. 364 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: Money that's that neighborhood give us? 365 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, if we fix the water up there in 366 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Palace verd aids you know what I'm saying, Like, we 367 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: got to talk to them because they know, I mean, 368 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: they kind of give us the breads, so they're not 369 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: incentivized necessarily to fix my infrastructure. 370 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Right, and then the customer service focus right. 371 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: Public utilities often focus more on customer satisfaction and addressing 372 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: community complaints, while private entities have profit motives. I mean, 373 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what else I need to explain to y'all. Right, now, 374 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: let me show you how this works and what the 375 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: allure is for a public city council to make this decision. 376 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: Are y'all here to more perfect union? It's another one 377 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: of those podcast folks that just got more money than us. 378 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: They able to produce things that we had bread, We 379 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: would produce it anyway. They did one about investor own 380 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: water companies and how they lobby to give them the 381 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: contract to run their sewage and water, right. 382 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: And it's a super dope stuff. It's a super dope study. 383 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: It's a good, like focused study to show like as 384 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: sort of an example of how it can happen anywhere. 385 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: And they focused this one study on this city in Pennsylvania, right. 386 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: And here's the ill part about all of this is 387 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: that how would you know this is happening? 388 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: I mean, are you really looking at the logo on 389 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: your water bill? I mean. 390 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: No, you just like looking at the costs, right and 391 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: hoping that it don't be that much. Now again, if 392 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you've written it, if you're rent in an apartment, I 393 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know what utilities you gotta cover. 394 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: Right, Let's say you are written in an apartment. 395 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like a lot of times, 396 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: Joe utilities, It's like it's like they cover water and gas, 397 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: you cover electricity and internet and then whatever it is. 398 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about who the company is. I'm just 399 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: like paying the bill. But if one day your bill triple, 400 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: I mean, who do you call you like, I haven't 401 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: used more water. I don't understand why it costs more. 402 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Now you might call the city the city like, oh, 403 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: we don't even run the water no more. 404 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. 405 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty in New Garden, Pennsylvania, they sold 406 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: their water to get this, I go up Pennsylvania Jerks, 407 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: a subsidiary of Essential Utilities, they sold their water for 408 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. And just for you to get a 409 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: grasp on how much money can be made by doing this. 410 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: If you a company, that company made two point zero 411 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: five billion dollars in twenty twenty three. And essentially, if 412 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: you the city, the city runs up, you are you 413 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: having all kinds of problems. You got people not paying 414 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: bills on time, you got all these different you know, 415 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: all this stuff, you got to hire the worker, you 416 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: got to do all this stuff. And this company runs 417 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: up and was like, yo, we'll take all this off 418 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: your hands. 419 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: Not only will we take it off your hands. We'll 420 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: pay you for it. 421 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: So to the city and they saying, look, I do 422 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: a better job than y'all do. Why because this is 423 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: all we do. You got all this other stuff you 424 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: got to take care. We gonna only take care of 425 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: the water. Look, we'll give you thirty million dollars for it. 426 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: That's free money. And you ain't got to worry about it. 427 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: All you gotta do when people call complaining about they 428 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: water is just say please hold and transfer it to us. 429 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: You ain't got nothing to worry about it. And the 430 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: city say, okay, that sounds good. Now are you going 431 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna change your prices? It's like, why would we 432 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: change our prices. We won't need to change our price. 433 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, we can probably charge less because we 434 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: ain't got the same things y'all got, well, at least 435 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: for the first few years. Kind Of like the phone 436 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: bill when they're like, oh, you sign up for this 437 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: much money a month for the first three months, or 438 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: your cable for the first first two years, and then 439 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: one day your cable bill come in and it's just 440 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: psycho and you like, I don't know why the hell 441 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: this costs so much more, And they're like oh yeah, 442 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: the contract was for this long and then after that 443 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: it went back to regular price. That's essentially what's happening. 444 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, if your water bill go crazy, 445 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: who you're gonna call? Like what you're gonna say? 446 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: Like? Uh? 447 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: They could just be like, yeah, it just costs more now. 448 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: So for the city, the city is like, look, it's 449 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: free money. We could put this money into other stuff 450 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: we've been trying to work on, and y'all gonna get 451 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: a better situation. And again, no one looks at the 452 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: logo on their bill. So the utilities industries, right a 453 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: few years ago, I think in twenty sixteen, got this 454 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: law passed that made cities want to sell it. It's 455 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: called the fair Market Value laws. One example is in 456 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania was Act twelve, which was in twenty sixteen. 457 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: And the concern is cities feel like they. 458 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Can't keep up with dunt dunt dun environmental laws and 459 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: keep up with city growth. Cities are growing so fast, 460 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: so many people are moving in. We're destroying the earth 461 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: at a particular exponential rate, and the government wants us 462 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: to not destroy the planet. 463 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: Ho home, So I got all. 464 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: These laws I got, he just you know, he is 465 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: a hat of the money for it. 466 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: He is out of the money for it at the time. 467 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: So when you're evaluating how much this utility would be worth, 468 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: you can include, because of Act twelve in Pennsylvania, the 469 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: median income, the expected repairs and future revenue, which means 470 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: it makes that water worth way much more. Right, And 471 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times when you selling this, when you 472 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: selling this disutility, the price tag what these people be 473 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: paying you be six times the city's budget. 474 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: So think about this. I'm just trying to make this 475 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: real for you. 476 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: Let's just say somebody comes in and says I'll buy 477 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: your car. 478 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: You say, word for how much? 479 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: And they say, I tell you what, I'll pay you 480 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: your year's salary for this car. The fam you gonna add, 481 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: I add another car in there for that. You know 482 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Hey, you know, throwing another six months 483 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: for the stalary, I'll make you some dinner. 484 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: Like it's it's kind of a no brainer. You like, 485 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: you our entire year's budget just for the water? No brainer? 486 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: But who pays the company? Nigga? 487 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: You you paying the company? What do I mean by that? 488 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: The company cuts cuts the city at check? Now the 489 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: company gotta make their money back. How they make their 490 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: money back? Nigga, your bills? What did you like? What 491 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: is you saying? Of course they gonna make their money 492 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: back now again, they're incentivized to make that money back 493 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: as fast as possible, which means they're not gonna spend 494 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: more than they added. Already spent thirty million dollars to 495 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: get the thing. But then they'll promise to like fix 496 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: their systems, their promise like you sold the city saying 497 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to spend some time to upgrade 498 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: and do all this difference. And they don't have an 499 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: upgrade nothing, because it's kind of a no brainer. 500 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: This is easy money to them. 501 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: In Philly, there's this area called the Chester Water Authority 502 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: that went straight up bankrupt, so like the city's water 503 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: authority just went bankrupt. So they was like, yo, we 504 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: gotta sell it. They got offered four hundred and ten 505 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: million dollars. Well the city did, and the city says, nigga, 506 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Chester Water Authority, you ain't got the right to sell 507 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: because you are not a company. 508 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: You are part of the City of Philadelphia. 509 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: Chester Water Authority is like, my jig, I mean, what 510 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: the hell you want us to do? 511 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: How does this stuff become legal? Well, like the same 512 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: way any others dick come legal. They just you lobby 513 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: candidates all the time. And the only way to stop 514 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: this is you got to sign up to some sort 515 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: of city council news led us something to be able 516 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: to walk up in there and. 517 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Protest the shit. Nigga, good luck. 518 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about specifically California. All right, I bring 519 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: up specifically California because of all this stuff about the fire, 520 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: hydrants and water issues that we had recently. Remember that 521 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: the water that water's Los Angeles comes from the north right, 522 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: It comes from right up under Sacramento through the California 523 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: Aqueduct that was put together by this man named maulhulland. 524 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: So the mulhulland passed mulhulland drive. 525 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: That was all based on this man that made Los 526 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Angeles be possible because he just went up there just 527 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: like any other colonizing, was like I buy your water, 528 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: and they was like water ain't for sale. 529 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah it is, and went over their 530 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: heads and bought the water. 531 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Built a whole basically like when you was a kid 532 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: at the beach and you dig a little thing in 533 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: the sand to make the water go a certain way. 534 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: That's basically what he did through the middle of California 535 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: to bring water to Los Angeles. Now, Los Angeles did 536 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: have one river. That was the San Gabril River that 537 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: starts in the top of the San Gabriel Foothills and 538 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: comes into what we call the La River, which is paved, 539 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: which there is a movement to unpave that because that 540 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: would probably help us with a lot of climate issues. 541 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: But either way, that was an actual river. It was 542 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: enough to support the native tribes here because it wasn't 543 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: that many people here, and they had sense enough to 544 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: not plant plants that need the water that they ain't got. 545 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: They wasn't trying to build a city in the area. 546 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: They ain't supposed to be a city. Nigga, Have you 547 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: ever been to Las Vegas. There should not be a 548 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: city there. Y'all ever been to the Inland Empire? There 549 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: should not be that many humans there, according to the Earth, 550 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: unless you pump water over there. 551 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: The natives were fine. 552 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: The indigenous communities figured out how to live in the 553 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: shit for thousands of years. 554 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, we had to do our thing. Now, 555 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: some vocabulary. 556 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: California got a thing called senior water rights, which means 557 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: whoever got there first gets the water, Like basically, it's 558 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: my land, I licted right. But they only got them 559 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: rights when it started from the gold Rush. So they 560 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: was like, well, who was there first? Was this white man? 561 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Not the people that already lived there, but these white men. 562 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: So if you happen to have a farm, you know 563 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: up near North Fresno, if your family been there longer 564 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: than somebody else's family, then that water is yours, right, 565 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: that's senior water rights. And then there's junior water rights, 566 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: which is like the second person. So whatever water you 567 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: don't use, they get to use right now. Why that 568 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: is specifically important for California, especially the Central Valley, is 569 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: because Cali provides everybody's produce. 570 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: I mean, for the rest of the country. 571 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: The vast majority of the fruits, vegetab nuts, and lagoons 572 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: that you eat come from California. 573 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: We gotta have water. 574 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: It would be hoof of rest of America to make 575 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: sure that Calli got water. 576 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: So those are water rights. 577 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: Now the water that gets pumped down into our fire hydrants. 578 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: Here's the situation, like that had to do a water pressure. 579 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Now you could refer to the block is literally hot 580 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: episode where I go into detail as to what happened 581 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: with that. 582 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: But there was this whole thing. 583 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: About the water being owned by some billionaires. Now I 584 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: would love to run with that one, but the fact is, 585 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: that's just not true. 586 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: It's not that simple. Let me go ahead in fact 587 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: check that. 588 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: So the wonderful code which is who they were talking about, 589 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: it's Steward and Linda Resnik. They do have a majority 590 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: steak in a water bank that can store up to 591 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: one point five million acres, right, which is close to 592 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: five hundred billion gallons of water. But the realness is 593 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: that's like a tiny fraction of the water capacity of California. 594 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: California's groundwater basins combined can hold more than five hundred 595 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: and sixty six times as much water, with a storage 596 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: capacity of eight hundred and fifty million to one point 597 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: three billion acres of feet across the California Department of 598 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Water Sources. The state's surface resources hold more than forty 599 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: million acres on top of that, So there's two types 600 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: of water here. 601 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: There's surface water and there's groundwater. 602 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Groundwater obviously that's stuff that you would dig in for 603 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: a well, that's a whole other thing, right now, it 604 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: is true this family owns brands is like wonderful pistachios, 605 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Fiji water wonderful, land halos wonderful halos, and palm wonderful. 606 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: And that's a you know, I don't know if you're 607 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: in a pomegranate juice, but if that's your thing. But anyway, 608 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: let me quote from politiffect. The water the residents use 609 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: get stored underground initially before or the water that is 610 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: delivered to the roots of Resinic's pistachios, almonds, pomegranate courts 611 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: specifically is stored in the Kerrent Water Bank that is 612 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: the most valuable water resource in the region and critical 613 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: to America's fresh flood supplies. The water bank which is 614 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: watch This the bank itself a public private partnership with 615 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: the Resnic's owned fifty seven percent of the steak is 616 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: thirty two square mile recharge basin, which looks like floodlands 617 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: from the street that essentially stores again the one point 618 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: five million acre feet of water five hundred billion gallons. 619 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Thes storage arrangement is very controversial, right They've been banking 620 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: on the water by using public and private dollars to 621 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: corral public resource. Because of their water rights and their wealth, 622 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: they are insulating themselves from this type of drought, which, 623 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: of course that's what rich do, right. This is what 624 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: Chas Miller says, the director Environmental Analysis at Pomona College. 625 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Private capital has no problem with the drought, while the 626 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: rest of us are looking at deep social divides. Somebody 627 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: bought the water, but water isn't the only thing. Like 628 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: I said that somebody else owes you know. According to 629 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: Publicpower dot Org, utilities that were sold since nineteen eighty 630 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: have ranged dramatically in size. Although many had a small 631 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: number of customers at the time of the sale, with 632 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: the median of fewer than six hundred customers, less than 633 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: thirty percent of utilities sold had more than a thousand 634 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: customers at the time of sale. Right, so back then 635 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: it was a small amount of people. 636 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: Right. 637 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: Watch this, Only five public power utilities with ten thousand 638 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: or more customers have sold, right, and four of those 639 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: five sales occurred were approved since twenty fifteen. Now the 640 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: law or just sale of such electric department was the 641 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: city of Murphysboro, Tennessee, which had about sixty eight thousand 642 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: customers and when it's sold to the Middle Tennessee Electric 643 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Membership Cooperative in twenty twenty. Other utilities substantial size include 644 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: those serving the cities of Vero Beach, Anchorage, Alaska, Eagle Mountain, Utah, 645 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: and all together we are talking about eight hundred thousand 646 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: citizens today have their electricity. Private sales have occurred in 647 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: twenty six states, and almost all of Kansas was sold, 648 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: and it was sold in the nineteen eighties. Now why 649 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: even make an episode on this? And it's because of 650 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: this last thing. Corporate cities. Now, of course, company towns 651 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: is as old as companies are. You know, you had 652 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: trained things and stuff like that, you know, where like 653 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: a company moves in and it just it just made 654 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: sense for the company to make sure that they were 655 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: providing housing and you know, saloons and stuff like that 656 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: for the people that you know, lived in their area. 657 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: It just made sense. 658 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: That was just it was just good business, right, you 659 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: wanted to attract more people to stay in this area. 660 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: If you've ever been in northwest Arkansas city called Bentonville, 661 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: it's actually very dope to be in. But it is 662 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: the headquarters for Walmart. So if you're gonna work in 663 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: corporate Walmart. You gotta live in Bentonville. Now, the city's 664 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: dope is that a corporate town? Not in what I'm 665 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: talking about. It is a company that said we're gonna 666 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: dump a kajillion dollars to make this city as dope 667 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: as possible. That's one thing I am talking about, a 668 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: brand duh making a city. 669 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: I wish I was making this up. 670 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: Google Got One's working on a community called North Bay 671 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: Shore in Mountain View, California. I'll have seven thousand housing units, 672 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: and another called Middlefield Park that'll have two thousand units. 673 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: Meta is building Willow Village dubbed Zucktown in Menlo Park, California, 674 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: and they'll have seventeen hundred housing units, a hotel, and 675 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: plenty of retail. Disney is developing a fourteen hundred thousand 676 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: units across eighty acres in Kissamee, Florida, right near. 677 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: Walt Disney World. 678 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is building his city called in snail Brook 679 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: outside of Austin, Texas for employees of his constellations of startups, 680 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: including SpaceX, Tesla, and Boeing. 681 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: But the most ambitious is California. 682 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: Forever It's supposed to be Silicon Valley two point zero. 683 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: It's this group ran by the former Golden Sax trader 684 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: Jane Samark and is backed by investors like the Lincoln 685 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 1: co founder Reed hofsman Chris Dixon, and this philanthropist named 686 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Loreene Powell. And it plans to create this new city 687 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: in Solano County, sixty miles north of San Bernardino, with 688 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of homes, large solar energy orchards, with 689 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: a million new trees, and one hundred thousand acres of 690 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: new park space. And they hope to build this community 691 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: will generate thousands of jobs in a wockable Paris or 692 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: West Village in New York. 693 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: And there was this. 694 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: Reporting of this unknown group that was coming up in 695 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: just like just buying farmland. It was called Flannery Associates. 696 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: And for years nobody had any idea who these people were. 697 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: They purchased fifty two thousand acres, spent eight hundred million dollars, 698 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: paying five times a market rate, and. 699 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: Nobody knew who they were. 700 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: This little po dunk town people selling their little farms. 701 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 2: It's because these billionaires building a city. 702 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: Now, I am telling you all this ultimately to introduce 703 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: you to Curtis Yarvin, who is probably going to be. 704 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: A future bastard pod person. 705 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Or either way, one of these shows is going to 706 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: cover this man, because this man, in a lot of ways, 707 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: is the patient zero, the contagion number one of these 708 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: new Republicans, this new conservatism, this new extremist that's been 709 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of been trying to tell everybody, here's why it's 710 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: so poisonous. He's like, because not only is democracy dead, 711 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: democracy being dead, and whatever you think you have now 712 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 1: ain't a democracy, to which all of us would be like, nigga, Yes, 713 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: that's why it's so dangerous because I'd be like yeah. 714 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: He's like, the system's failing you, and I'm like amen. 715 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: So his solution is a monarchy, but. 716 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: He mean a monarchy like a CEO. 717 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: So this man says if the country was ran like 718 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,959 Speaker 1: a tech company, everything would be cool, we would all 719 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: be better. And his example of that is he would say, Okay, 720 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: look at that laptop you use it. 721 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: Look at that phone you got. 722 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: Do you think you would have got to that phone, 723 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: to that laptop, the quality of that laptop you had 724 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: if it was done by the City of California's Tech 725 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Municipal Department. 726 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: He's like, nigga, no, you got that because. 727 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: Of Steve Jobs. That's why you got that phone. Because 728 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: that nigga was like, look, this is what we're doing. 729 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: This is how we're doing it. He would argued that 730 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: Roosevelt over the New Deal. He was a tech bro. 731 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: He ran his mug like a tech startup. He was like, look, nigga, 732 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. We building freeways. I don't 733 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: care what y'all say. We building freeways. He's like, if 734 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: the country was ran like a tech company, then maybe 735 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: this country would work better. And he's like, in newsflash, 736 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: whatever the hell you think you got now ain't working anyway. 737 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: We might as well is lean into it. All I'm 738 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: saying is I don't know what I'm saying, fam, it 739 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: could happen here. So this is your favorite cousin swooping 740 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: in and signing off ruining another thing for you. 741 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: Don't catch me at the hood of politics. 742 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: Pop. 743 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: It could happen here is a production of cool Zone Media. 744 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 745 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: Coolzonemedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 746 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can 747 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 2: now find sources for it could happen here. Listen directly 748 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 2: in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.