1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: There's j J. Brand new guest producer. We've got this 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: revolving door going on. It's just like a beautiful and 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: this is short stuffy JJ's he's a pro though, Like 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: it's not like you can just show up here take 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: a ticket like you're at the deli. No, no, nothing 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: like that. This isn't This isn't cats as deli. Hell, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I'd be pretty happy for. Nor is it doctor Katz's 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: therapy office. Anytime we hear of doctor Kats, I think 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: of um. I think it was dom Arera. He used 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: to be a regular on that and he used to 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: go like Dr Cats, And it's always it's been in 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: my head since. Oh man, Dr Cats was great. I 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: miss it really was. Let's go watch some after this. Okay, 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: all right, but let's talk about cord of Roy first. Sure, sure, 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: that's fine. We can talk about about that, because you 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: see him wearing it in honor of today. I know 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: you're wearing some rust colored corduroy pants that I would 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: say are maybe a probably about a twelve ten to 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: twelve whale, yeah, because maybe eight. They're pretty standard Levi's 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: chords whatever that whale is. And if you're wondering what 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: we're talking about, we'll tell you here in a minute 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: after we get to a little bit of the the 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: history here, which is debatable. Apparently it is because it's 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: either French in origin, uh korda do roy the King's cord. 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: But my money is a little more towards what the 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Brooks brothers say, which is no, mate, it was street 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: streetwear in eighteenth century England. I don't think the Brooks 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: brothers sound like that. No, what do they sound like? Oh? Really? 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I can just think of Albert Brooks and super Dave 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Osborne as the Brooks brothers. Oh that's good. Why Dave 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: oz Born? He's not a Brooks, is he? They're brothers? Man? No? No? 33 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: That wow? Man? Their parents must have been really cool 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: probably so okay. So either way, what we're really talking 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: about here is where the origin of the name for 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the fabric came from. It looks chuck like corduroy has 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: its roots way further back than that that. It comes from, 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: possibly and probably a type of fabric from dating back 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: to about two CE back in ancient Egypt called um Fustians. 40 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: Names after the city where they were made, al Fustat, 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: which is I think Fustian is still actually a term 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: for certain types of corduroy or certain types of fabric, 43 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: including corduroy that are real thick and squishy and and 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: originally they were pretty coarse. Yeah, but that Brooks Brothers 45 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: story has a lot of credibility because the chord uh 46 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: referencing the rose, the ridges, the chords, and d Roy 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: which is a wolf fabric, right. That sounds like a 48 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: pretty open and shut case to me. Now, yeah, I'm good, 49 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm with you. I'm going with the Brooks Brothers. 50 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: Um interpretation to it was really just the um the 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: impression you did that I had an issue, okay, But 52 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: the fabric itself you think that is Egyptian or Middle Ages, 53 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: and then uh later Egyptian you know. So, so it 54 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: was Egyptian first, but it was um, it wasn't corded. 55 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: There weren't whales on it. It was just one thick 56 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: piece of like velvet kind of right, where you have 57 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: a certain kind of fabric and then woven on top 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: of that fabric, is it the fabric that makes it 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of plushier, thicker, um sturdier, and that is what 60 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: corduroy is. That it's as base um, and that that's 61 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: what they were making for many many centuries. And then finally, 62 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: at some point during the Middle Ages, somebody said, Hey, 63 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I've got a really good idea about this. Let's turn 64 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: this into corduroy by cutting rows into this stuff. Right. 65 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: What we do know in the United States is that 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: it was first made in Woolsta, mass In about seventeen eighty. 67 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: And uh, I do need to shout out Corduroy the 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Bear here because not only is it does it appear 69 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: in this house stuff works short article on corduroy. But 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: I have a pretty great Corturoy the Bear history, which 71 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: was I loved that book a lot as a kid, 72 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: did you. I was aware of it, but I think 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: it was a little ahead of my time. Okay, I 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: think it was ahead of my time too. I mean 75 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: I think it predates me. But I love the story. 76 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: And my mom made she got a teddy bear that 77 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: looked kind of like corduroy and made him little corturoy 78 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: overalls and shorts and what was missing a button? So 79 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: that is so sweet. Yeah, I had my very own 80 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of one of the great things about my mom. 81 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: And she could really so and so she could make 82 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: me things when they did not exist on the toy market. 83 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's me. Or she could save some money and 84 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: just make her own knockoffs. Well we did that as well, 85 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: right right. I had more than one T shirt made 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: from like curtain fabric. That's hilarious. Um My mom used 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: to take my T shirts and like stuff them and 88 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: turn them into pillows when I outgrew them. Oh that's sweet. Yeah, 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: it was pretty sweet. I have no idea where they 90 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: are anymore, but yeah, I had a few. I had 91 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: one that said BMX. Oh yeah, that'd be pretty cool 92 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: to have today. It really would. So we mentioned the whales, uh, 93 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and I think we should get to that before we 94 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: take our little break. The whales are those rigid little 95 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: ridges W A L E. S. I'm so glad you 96 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: spelled it. Yeah. Um, And it's the higher the whale count, 97 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: the smaller the little ridge is. So if you have 98 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: worn one of those really fine sort of like corduroy Oxford's. 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of them for myself. I 100 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: don't mind the way they look, but I've never liked 101 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: them for me personally. But that's about a sixteen whale. 102 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: What don't you like about them? It's just not my bag. 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not big on collar church period. They've 104 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: they ruffled my neck and my chin. Yeah, um, I 105 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: but that particular one you just described about the sixteen whale. 106 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Cord think is typically called pink cord. Yeah, you have 107 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: some of those, right, I do not. But I have 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: to say researching corduroy made me want to go buy 109 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: some corduroy stuff, so I think it's in the offing. Yeah. 110 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: My problem with my chords is they really wear out 111 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the knees very fast. And I'm not he spends a 112 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of time on his knees. I'm not scrubbing floor 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: as much or anything. So I don't know what the 114 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: deal is. Okay, well that's a mystery. I think we 115 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: can go to a commercial break on. All right, we'll 116 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: figure it out. Well, now we're on the road, driving 117 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: in your truck. Want to learn a thing or two 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: from Josh Madam, Chuck stuff you should know? All right, 119 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: m all right, Chuck, we're back in. Um, let's talk 120 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a little more about how corduroy is made, right, because 121 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: this blew my mind when I finally saw some diagrams 122 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: and I understood it. All right, let's hear it. So 123 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: with a typical fabric, you take two different sets of 124 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: yarns and you weave them together perpendicular to one another, 125 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: and you have fabric. When you're making a fustian, like 126 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: a thicker, fluffier fabric like say terry cloth or velvet 127 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: or corduroy, you it's very nice, isn't it, you use 128 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: a third set of yarn, And so what you have 129 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: is that basic, you know, flat fabric, and then woven 130 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: into the top of that is that thicker pile of 131 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: fabric called the um worst right, okay, And so just 132 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: leaving it like that, you have something like velvet or 133 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: again like terry cloth, which you love so much. But 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: if you want to make corduroy, you take that that 135 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: um fussy and fabric and then you take a very 136 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: sharp set of scissors or something like that, and you 137 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: cut a line all the way along the length of 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: the fabric. And what you've just done is created a 139 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: two whale um bolt of corduroy. But that's no one's 140 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna wear that, right, Yeah, And two whale bolt is 141 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: a great band name, by the way it is. That's 142 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: funny because I was just gonna say, the only person 143 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: who wear that is somebody like Flee from the Red 144 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Hot Chili Peppers, but he'll wear anything as pants as 145 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: we've seen over the years. Um. So you start making 146 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: more cuts and more cuts, and like you were saying, 147 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: depending on how supple or um nice you want to 148 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: make the fabric, the more cuts you're gonna make. But 149 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: however many cuts there are. However many ridges there are 150 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: per inch. That's the whale count, and that's kind of 151 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: describes how thick the ridges are. But the point is 152 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: when you make that cut, what you've done is cut 153 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: that top layer of fabric, the additional third set of yarn, 154 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: and you've cut it into two and you've exposed the 155 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: other traditional two yarn set of fabric underneath. And that's 156 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: what corduroy is. It's a raised ridge that used to 157 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: be all one complete set of yarn, and then there's 158 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: valleys that are the fabric below. Yeah, I've been practicing 159 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: this for for days. That's good, and it's still didn't 160 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: go according to plant, Like I want to cut my 161 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: thigh with the razor blade, right now. I'm so frustrated, Chuck. No, 162 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I think that was perfect actually, what you end up 163 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: with and how they actually referred to it in the 164 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: industry as a three dimensional fabric, a three dimensional pile weave. Uh. 165 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: And like you've mentioned, velvet and terry cloth are also 166 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: three dimensional fabrics and it's pretty great. Um. They say 167 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: in here, uh that you need to steam or fluff corduroy. 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case, or I've never done that. No, 169 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: only a Brooks Brothers would do that. But I do 170 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: have a pretty rock end corduroy coat from back in 171 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: the day. Uh. I mean this thing is I probably 172 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: had it for twenty years and I got it second hand, 173 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: and it is beautiful and it's got a really fat 174 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: whales on it and I don't pull it out much anymore. 175 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: It used to be my New York coat, but I've 176 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: evolved a bit since then, but I still have it 177 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's really a nice coat, that is. Yeah, 178 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: I think I know that coat you're talking about. I'm 179 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: either confusing you or Joe McCormick has one that he 180 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: likes to rock a lot. It's probably Joe, because I 181 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: haven't one mind in years, okay, but you got your 182 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: second hand twentysomething years ago, so that would have coincided 183 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: roughly with the last corduroy revival. And the first one 184 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I remember was in the nineties. Do you remember that. Yeah, 185 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean they were big in the fifties, certainly in 186 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, and then in the nineties. I 187 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: think that's when I got this thing, and I got 188 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: to I got one shorter one that had a narrower whale, 189 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: and then this longer one that has the big fat whales, 190 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: and I think I still have both of them. Is 191 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: it like a trench coat at corduroy trench coat. Yeah, 192 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: it's like a long corturoy coat with the big brown 193 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: buttons and like a wool uh lapel. Is it like 194 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: a barn coat or something? What a barn coat? I'm 195 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: not sure what that is. It sounds like what you're 196 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: just scribing, You're gonna have to wear this in some day. 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: I'll bring it in, all right, cool bringing in for 198 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: show and tell. But yeah, So it was kind of 199 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: big in the fifties, really took off in the late sixties, 200 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: and then really huge in the seventies and then went 201 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: nowhere until the nineties, and then I guess this thing 202 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: said in the two thousand tens that came back or 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the two thousands that came back in which I was 204 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: not aware of that at all. Well, I've always rocked 205 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the cord pants, but over the years it has ranged 206 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: from like school uniform fabric to UH. In World War One, 207 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: low ranking soldiers wore it UH work where if you 208 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: worked in like a factory, because the stuff is pretty warm, 209 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: because it's thicker, and it's durable too, Yeah, very durable, 210 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: excepting the knees and um. And then it's you know, 211 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it's also been looked at as something a little fancier, right, 212 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: which apparently originally was it was sportswear for the upper 213 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: class um, and then somehow just kind of fell out 214 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: of favor and became associated with the working class and 215 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: the lower classes, and then it's it just kind of 216 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: stayed that way until, like I think, starting in the twenties, 217 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: for a little while there it was pretty common as 218 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: um upholstery for cars. Did you know that. Yeah, I 219 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: have seen a car upholstered in Cortroy and it's pretty awesome. 220 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I'll bet it's pretty awesome. The only way that could 221 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: be any better is if there were like patchwork corduroy. Yeah, 222 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: now I know the jacket that you're talking about. That 223 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: is Joe's for sure. Yes, I think it even has 224 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: elbow patches. Yeah. His is more like a blazer, sure, 225 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: not a duster like yours. Right, what else you got? 226 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: I got nothing else? Man. I support corduroy, like knowing 227 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more how it's made. And uh, I say, 228 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: wear it never out of fashion. Up with corduroy, agreed. Um. 229 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about corduroy, by the way, 230 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: check out headles H E D D E l S 231 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: dot com. They have something called Corduroy read between the 232 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Lines of the Wailed Fabric by James Smith, and it 233 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: has a picture that will finally explain better than I 234 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: possibly could how corduroy is made very simply. Yes, Okay, Well, 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: see you guys later, because short stuff is out. Stuff 236 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: you should know is production of iHeart Radios. 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