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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys. You liked d lambs, No, your

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Speaker 1: host Kyle Yeoman's We are into the single digits. We

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Speaker 1: are nine days away from the NFL Draft. April twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth is fast approaching. Happy April twenty if everybody, as

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Speaker 1: we are just nine days away and Cleveland, Ohio is

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Speaker 1: starting to feel the ramifications of the draft on the horizon,

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Speaker 1: and so as the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: as we have got an entire show full of fan questions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we normally do Twitter on the twenty, but as Katie

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Speaker 1: Best said it yesterday in our group text, this is

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the zero, Twitter on the twenty, and Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the forty, all at the same time, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do the entire show full of fan questions. And Dave,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of overdue, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've had just fan involvement through the roof, throughout this

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Speaker 1: entire process, and we've just answered like six questions. I

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Speaker 1: It's it's not a knock on you. If anything, I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's a byproduct of the zoom era.

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Speaker 1: It just takes longer to have these conversations. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've probably only answered ten questions this

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Speaker 1: entire year. So yeah, good, let's let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Let's give the people what they want. Absolutely, We've got

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, We've got Kevin, Katie Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh, I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us, and Katie, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is your idea, but you got to give back

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Speaker 1: to the fans after all the help that they've given

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Speaker 1: us in terms of Twitter on the twenty all year long. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get the frustration, Like, hey guys, guys, we sent

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Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, we're nine days away.

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Speaker 1: Instead of us talking about Sir tan Verse one one

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Speaker 1: So I kind of I kind of like that we

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Speaker 1: gonna start things out by shooting this first question right

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Speaker 1: at Jeff Cavanaugh. The reason why is because it is

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Speaker 1: a little bit random. But you mentioned Horn, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Sir Tan. How about I throw another top corner name

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Speaker 1: in there for this first question. This comes from a

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Speaker 1: guy named Tank Commander O R. L on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: he says, do we have any indication on how the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys feel about Caleb Farley's medical situation with the possible

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Speaker 1: trade backup into the first round be a target for Dallas?

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Speaker 1: Is Caleb Farley a potential despite his medical situation? Mister

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Speaker 1: Jeff Cavanaugh, sure. I mean, first of all, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to say hello to Tank Commander. That's a pretty bad ass,

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Speaker 1: So what's up, Tank Commander? And I'd like to apologize

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Speaker 1: to everyone for just how long winded Katie and Dave

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Speaker 1: more questions. The Caleb Farley thing's impossible because you're only

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Speaker 1: the only way you're going to know what teams are

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Speaker 1: know all the reports are positive. But that's the way

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Speaker 1: But you can look at the Cowboys history. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: in on my thoughts on Caleb Farley. Bad backs don't

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Speaker 1: Such as life, Dan, Welcome to DFW. The Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: Okay is matchup proof. I don't care where he ends up.

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Speaker 1: Okay has to cover, and well that running back ain't

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Speaker 1: I love Newsome, Hey, I love Newsom. I love Newsom.

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Speaker 1: with what you just said about Godzilla and calm, not

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Speaker 1: I just think there's more to knock news There's more

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanall, Kevin kt Turner and I know we've already

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Speaker 1: some twitter on the twenty maybe there it is, there

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Speaker 1: it is, We got it. I tried to give a

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Speaker 1: Whenever it comes to Marvin Wilson, I'd be more concerned

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Speaker 1: with his injury history than his twenty twenty film. Of course.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson defensive tackle out of Florida State. He said

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Speaker 1: he could he can explain the bag twenty twenty film

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Speaker 1: as compared to his really really good twenty nineteen film.

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Speaker 1: But he just can't ignore the injuries. Don't believe he

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Speaker 1: ever finished a season at Florida State. Jeff, what do

484
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Speaker 1: you think about Marvin Wilson? We talked about this D

485
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: tackle class just not being good, but he's one of

486
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Speaker 1: those top names, and well, his film in twenty twenty

487
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: wasn't good and injury history. Where do you rank him

488
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Speaker 1: on your board? Marvin Wilson. I'm debating if he's gonna

489
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Speaker 1: be my top D tackle over Christian Barmore or not.

490
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Speaker 1: That's where I am with Marvin Wilson. And I know

491
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Speaker 1: a lot of people will have him as like a

492
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Speaker 1: third or fourth or fifth round guy after twenty twenty,

493
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Speaker 1: but I just don't because my only question about Marvin

494
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Speaker 1: Wilson is I want my team to do their background

495
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Speaker 1: in terms of how did somebody who was such a

496
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Speaker 1: dominant force as a I don't have this age in

497
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: front of me, but probably what an eighteen and nineteen

498
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Speaker 1: year old in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, maybe a

499
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: nineteen and a twenty year old become so much less

500
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Speaker 1: dominant Because I've seen him line up in the role

501
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play him in the NFL, and I've seen

502
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Speaker 1: him dominated and I saw him doing it for multiple

503
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Speaker 1: years against people who were older than him. I think

504
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson, he's like Mike greg Knwsom of the defensive tackles.

505
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Speaker 1: If I can just say, okay, different defensive coordinators, different schemes,

506
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: meniscus in the knee during the twenty twenty season, and

507
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Speaker 1: I can go hump if I can get him healthy.

508
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Speaker 1: And I say this with knowing nothing about him personally,

509
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Speaker 1: nothing about his football care or work ethic or anything.

510
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: But if Mike Scots tell me that his twenty twenty

511
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with just like not loving it

512
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: or not working at it and it was just that

513
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: he was banged up and they'd switched schemes, then to me,

514
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson's the best d tackle in this class because

515
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: his eighteen and nineteen film I think is more consistently

516
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: dominant than Christian Barmore at any point in his career.

517
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: So that's Marvin Wilson. So many people are thinking like

518
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: maybe even day three guy, and I'm looking at him

519
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: like Gallie. I mean, I've seen him line up and

520
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm going to ask him to do in

521
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: the NFL and absolutely dominate for multiple years, and we're

522
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Speaker 1: just gonna write that off. Marvin Wilson is potentially a study.

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: It was not fair to Marvin Wilson to go as

524
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: quick David. It's it's not fair for Marvin Wilson to go,

525
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, line up at the five technique and he

526
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: had to do that, and it's just not good for him.

527
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Like so like things like that is kind of annoying.

528
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: It's kind of is very tough about sometimes evaluating these guys.

529
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a game from a few years back

530
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: when he just wiped out McKay Beckton and he was

531
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Speaker 1: playing outside and even though that's not like his position,

532
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: you could see the explosion. And I think that's what's

533
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: so frustrating about the Stephen's tackle class is the consistency.

534
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: You have these guys with Marvin Wilson and Bartimore who

535
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: at times when you see them flash, you're going, holy crap.

536
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: Aline McNeil is another guy when you see him flash

537
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: here on holy crap. And then you have these like

538
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: less exciting guys like Tommy Toby. Guy, he's a good player,

539
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: but he's not exciting, he's not explosive, and oh, he's

540
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: just a good run player, strong, and that's where it

541
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of gets frustrating for me. I have Marvin Wilson

542
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: the second round because I'm banking on what he can

543
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: be and not what he was at times at Florida State.

544
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Speaker 1: And I just encourage everyone who watches some of these

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00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: Florida State guys Janarius Robinson and Kane as well, keep

546
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: it on. These guys were are extremely good athletes, especially

547
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: coming out of high school into college, and they dealt

548
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: with coaching changes and they dealt with a ton of

549
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: stuff at Florida State that really did not help their

550
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: development at all. Get him into an NFL locker room,

551
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: into a system, and I like these guys is really

552
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: good value those other guys in day three and I

553
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: still have a second round grade on Marvin Wilson. Now

554
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: forty four, you're gonna have to tell me who's on

555
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: the board. They're gonna be probably some other guys there

556
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: I like more, but yeah, he's definitely a consideration for

557
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: me there. I think a big and this is more

558
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: so media than the actual teams, but like those of

559
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: us in the media, it feels like it's so much

560
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: about momentum, Like j. C. Horne's a great example of like,

561
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: and Jeff, You're right, like these pro days are totally fogus.

562
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: But you know JC Horne runs a four to three nine,

563
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, people are like, oh, he

564
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: might be just as good as certain and it's like, well,

565
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: the tape never changed, and that's how it. Like Marvin

566
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Wilson and Christian Barmore. The last time I saw Christian Barmore,

567
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: he was beating up two of the best teams in

568
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: the country. And Marvin Wilson, you know, twenty nineteen feels

569
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: like a lifetime ago, especially you know, with the pandemic

570
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: and everything is, and so I feel more this is

571
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: just me, totally subjective. I feel more confident betting on

572
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a guy who was kicking ass in his last game

573
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: as opposed to a guy where I'm like, well, maybe

574
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I can help him rediscover what he used to be.

575
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. I wouldn't have a problem

576
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: drafting him. It's a classic case. I do this all

577
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: the time where I'm like, wouldn't be excited about drafting

578
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: him at forty four, but maybe a little bit later

579
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: on just because I think in the top fifty, I

580
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to. I shouldn't be asking questions

581
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: about a guy that I'm at drafting in the top fifty,

582
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Like I should just be like, this guy is ready

583
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: to go, and I don't have to worry about injuries

584
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: or the fact that he didn't play very well last year.

585
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: And I think I kind of ride the fence a

586
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm pulling a David Hellman here in that regard,

587
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: But I agree with what you're saying. It's fun on

588
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: the fifth it is. You get to have both opinions.

589
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: But if you're in the top fifty and you're getting

590
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: a guy at defensive tackle, you've done this before where

591
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: you've had questions, Right trist Nill, I mean, I guess

592
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't top he was. You're right, but Marvin Wilson

593
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: could also be a bad player. Tristan Hill. Tristan Hill

594
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: had some very exciting flashes like his just like plays.

595
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: But I can't compare a guy who had fifteen flash

596
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: plays at Central Florida to a dude who was dominant

597
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: at Florida State for multiple years. Well that's not fair.

598
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: He was Doriston Hill was a run mare. Nilly liked

599
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: that he got off the ball well twelve times. You are,

600
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: You're not wrong about that, yeah, But I mean, whenever

601
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about Marvin Wilson consensus five star, I mean

602
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: he was one of the top recruits in the country

603
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: able to come out of high school and then once

604
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: again was able to translate that game to the college

605
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: level in twenty nineteen, but just wasn't able to do

606
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty. That worries me that, And like

607
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: you said, there's guys that figure it out at the

608
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: college level, and that guys that just don't nest early

609
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: take it to the next level. If Marvin Wilson would

610
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: have came out last year, he would have been a

611
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: lock to go early day too. Instead, he wanted to

612
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: try and go rise up draft boards and try and

613
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: make a Derek Brown type of jump. And if you

614
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: would have done that, then sure you would have had that.

615
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: But instead he just had a mediocre year and kind

616
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: of pitter patter down the stretch. And I think that's

617
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: what has a lot of teams worried to k to

618
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Kat's point, I just have to believe that there would

619
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: be a guy available that I'd be more excited about

620
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: drafting at forty four. I mean, yeah, I would be

621
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: a lot more excited if there was another name called

622
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: other than Marvin Wilson. All Right, this question comes from

623
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: John Nelson. He said Zeke had his best years with

624
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: a good blocking fullback. Any chance that Dallas looks at

625
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: a fullback or maybe even a blocking tie it in

626
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: in the latter rounds and who could that potentially be.

627
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I've got a couple names that come to mind. First,

628
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: one is a fun little pet cat at fullback out

629
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl, Ben Mason from Michigan. That would

630
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun for me, I think, as

631
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: they don't necessary utilize a fullback and they already cut

632
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the one that they had, But there's some guys in

633
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: this draft that could be blockers. I just I'm doing

634
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: this right off the rip with no research done whatsoever.

635
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: But like, is that is that even true? Like in

636
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Zeke has been on the team since twenty sixteen, Like

637
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Speaker 1: I know, you know they had Keith Smith for a

638
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: little while Jamaze while I was here. I would go

639
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: I would bet I'd bet ten dollars without even looking

640
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: at it that they in that entire time frame of

641
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: fullback has never played more than like ten to twelve

642
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, like they used Keith in short

643
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: yardage situations sometimes, but like this was never the nineties,

644
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, like it wasn't like Moose Johnson where you're

645
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: just constantly bulldozing people. So I don't necessarily think I

646
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: agree with that premise, which is why if they were

647
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: to get a fullback, just do it in priority free

648
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: agency like they do that every year anyway that you know,

649
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: you sign a guy who can do a little bit

650
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: of both. Shiwo Alana Lua kind of fits that role

651
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: right now, especially since they released Jamay's I mean, if

652
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: there's a guy, if there's a guy they like that's

653
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: available after the draft, go for it. But I wouldn't

654
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: want to spend a draft pick on one kat and

655
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: tight ends. With a new fullback, you can use tight

656
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: ends there, and that's what I think. You know, we

657
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: saw him run the belldozer in there a couple times

658
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: last year, right like, um, she maybe shot Sean McKinnon

659
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: can maybe do that. Um, I'm not spending a draft

660
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: pick on a guy who's just a fullback. But it's

661
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: a fun position that I definitely played in junior high

662
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: and I totally went the fullback to stay alive a

663
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: little bit. Go draft kat, I would like to say

664
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: that I um I have a fullback for the Cowboys.

665
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: He plays at Alabama. His name is Jalen Waddle. Because

666
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: there's no point in having two hundred fifty pound dudes

667
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: whose job is to run in a hole and mash

668
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: into a run defender and bringing a you're rundefender into

669
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the box. In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one,

670
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: the idea that fullbacks still exists and non Kyle Shanahan

671
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: offenses is absurd and I will not stand for it.

672
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: The fullback is what you would get if Jason Garrett

673
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: came back, and we don't need that. Okay, say no

674
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: to fullbacks. A matter of fact, it's about time to

675
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: start saying no to tight ends running four wide, and

676
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: then the next step is gonna be saying goodbye to

677
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: running backs and going five wide and let your quarterback run.

678
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Now we're dancing, let's go. Now the fullbacks out. You

679
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: just want, you just need a running back who can

680
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: catch the ball. But I'm with you over like ten personnel.

681
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: That's the wave that's the move man. Yeah, you hate

682
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: twelve personnel. I can't unless one of those when less

683
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: one of those two tight ends is Kyle Pitts, I

684
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: can't stand it. That would be fun though, Yeah, yeah,

685
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: that could get you excited. Personnel likes two tight ends.

686
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: Oh all, all the head coaches like two tight ends

687
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: because they're all, you know, fifty plus and refused to

688
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: let go of some of those concepts. But that's okay.

689
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Talking about some of these guys that could maybe jump

690
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: up into the top ten. Ja Stender on Twitter says

691
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: it is well discussed the possible top ten picks with quarterbacks,

692
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, wide receivers, tight ends, corners. Who is someone

693
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: that we're not talking about that could jump into the

694
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: top ten and make things really interesting? And another option

695
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: to ship someone down to pick number ten. I'm gonna

696
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: start with kat on this one, Katie, anybody that's outside

697
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: of the top ten conversation that could slip in. It

698
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: feels like he slipped out of the conversation. But Michael

699
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Parsons deserves to be in that conversation. I could see it.

700
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: De Troy at seven pulling the you know, doing that,

701
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, if Seul and Slater are both gone at eight.

702
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: You know, does Elijah Vera Tucker get into that top

703
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: ten conversation? Maybe? You know, I don't know if he

704
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: deserves to be that high pretty close for that, I

705
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm a guy who's not one

706
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: in love with jac Hornet pick ten, So you know,

707
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I think I think this is the whole thing. Like

708
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: getting into the top ten. It's very easy to narrow

709
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: it down and get what you want. It's different than

710
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: when you're picking seventeen and you're kind of flipping coins

711
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: on who you got over there. Ten. You narrow it down,

712
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: you get one or two guys, you know who you want,

713
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: and that no better be who you get. Yes, I

714
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: don't know if we're really leaving anyone out. I yes,

715
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: I would say go to the linebacker. J Ok and

716
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Parsons perhaps should be in that conversation. I would go

717
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: to pass rushers. I think if you're gonna have a surprise,

718
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: he would play on the edge because it's just such

719
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: an important position. So like my order would be Adularry Phillips,

720
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: bash him, pay Turner Oway. But we were talking about

721
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, and so we got to read tea leaves,

722
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: so I would say Quitty pay would be the guy

723
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: who could throw it off and be a top ten pick.

724
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: Jeff took the words right out of my mouth, just

725
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: because he's got the craziest upside of the bunch, like

726
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the college production wasn't there, but with

727
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: the numbers that he turned in, and I know you

728
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: can't completely trust pro days, but I just think his

729
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: athleticism is on that level where if a team just

730
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: absolutely wants to take a swing at a pass rusher,

731
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: I think he would be the one. And then yeah,

732
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm it's hard to imagine this happening, but you know,

733
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: maybe if maybe if Slater and Sewell are gone, or

734
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: maybe maybe somebody just like loves Dary Saw or like

735
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Jenkins more than some or Elijah Vera Tucker may you know,

736
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I think back a couple of years, well even last

737
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: year the Giants kind of shocked everybody when they took

738
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas first among all of those offensive tackles, and

739
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: the year before that, the Raiders took Cleveland Farrell and

740
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: just blew everybody away. So you know, just because the

741
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: common logic says, like Slater sewel and then everybody else,

742
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that every team agrees with that.

743
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, pass rushers and offensive tackles, I think always

744
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: have a chance to shake things up. I would have

745
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: originally said mac Jones just based off of where I

746
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna go initially, but I think that's

747
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: already kind of been pretty much taken care of. He's

748
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: probably going in the top ten, and somebody's gonna try

749
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: and take him in the top ten. I can still

750
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: see him slipping out. I think Micah Parsons, like you said,

751
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: if somebody really falls in love with him and they're

752
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: not necessarily as concerned about the off the field issues,

753
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: or maybe they think he's a better player than he

754
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: is on the field, and maybe they go up and

755
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: get him. But that's pretty much the extent of it.

756
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: I think the top ten of this draft is pretty straightforward.

757
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: By the way, last year, when we did our mock

758
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: draft of the top the top thirty two picks, we

759
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: got nine of the ten picks in the first round, right,

760
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we were It's pretty easy usually to be

761
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: able to say. I think that's a thing that's happening

762
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: right now is like we're all we're bored. Every Cowboys

763
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: haven't picked this high up in a while. Like we're

764
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: bored of We're like, surely gonna happen, Surely there's something

765
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: else that could change. It's like, no, not really, there's

766
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: probably thirteen names that make sense for these ten spots,

767
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: and it's I'm kind of bored of talking about it too,

768
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: but I think that's what's gonna happen. So why guys

769
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: like Jeff Kavan I want to talk about Jalen Waddle

770
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: at ten instead of talking about Jeff Spender. Guys banging

771
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: on that drum since like the SEC Championship. I don't

772
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: blame him though, you guys like winning. I've got a

773
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver for you, Jeff. And this next question, how

774
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: about that? Goodness? I lost it already, all right? So

775
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: Vance on Twitter says, why is no one talking about

776
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Shy Smith out of South Carolina? Insanely productive, showed out

777
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and comes from a college that

778
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: produces really good receivers. He loves the idea of taking

779
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: him in the fourth or the fifth round, and that's

780
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: really where the Cowboys would have to find a burner

781
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: like that ran of four four three, he had a

782
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: one six ten yards split. I mean the broad jumps,

783
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: the vertical jumps were good led the team in receiving. Jeff,

784
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: do you know a whole lot about Shy Smith and

785
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: why are we not talking about him as a Cowboys

786
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: option late in the draft? Well, I dig the alliteration

787
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: in his name. It's a cool sounding name. And I

788
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: heard kat make sounds when you said his name. I'm

789
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: currently cramming on my wide receivers to get prepared to

790
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: have some twelve wide receivers and he is not one

791
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: of them. So Katie gets sexy with it. Yeah, I know,

792
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: he's a slot guy at five to nine. The thing

793
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: about Shy Smith is he made some really really impressive catches.

794
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: I remember the Senior Bowl and a lot of impressive catches.

795
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about Shy Smith and you're kind

796
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: of taking by Jalen Darden to pick away, so I

797
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: serve my big issues. But Shi Smith's a good player.

798
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: The thing about Shi Smith is how incredibly aggressive he

799
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: is at all times as a route runner. And usually

800
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: those slut guys seem a little more nuanced, you know,

801
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: more kind of joy sticky, and I don't really see

802
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: that as much with him. I kind of see him

803
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: as just kind of run through a guy to get

804
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: across and kind of get open a little bit. He's

805
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: kind of more of a you know, an A to

806
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: B type guy. And I'm not saying he's not shifty.

807
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's not as shifty as you know

808
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: the Jalen Darden's who I just you know, talked about.

809
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: So again, I like him highly productive UM in his

810
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: in his career UM fourth round, fifth round for me

811
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: on my wide receiver chart. Uh, as I got through

812
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: my wide receiver rankings, there's just so many of them.

813
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Ten his wide receiver twenty for me. Yeahs, fifth round

814
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: at just the wrong USC, Sat Brown. There you go,

815
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: son fun. It's different types of players though, I mean,

816
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Saint Brown is the seventh receiver on my board, whereas

817
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: Shy Smith's eighteen. I agree with the production though from

818
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Shy Smith and the question that was asked. I mean

819
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel Brian Edwards, two receivers that have notably gone

820
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years that have had immediate

821
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: impacts in the NFL, and Shy Smith has been just

822
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: as productive with those guys in the lineup. And then

823
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: he was a productive without those guys in the lineup.

824
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: So I think over the course of his career, you

825
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: could look at it and say, Shy Smith's been just

826
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: as good as those two guys have during their time

827
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: at South Carolina. Why can't we talk about him the

828
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: same way, especially if he's going to fit that slot role,

829
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: which he's quick enough, he's big enough, he's shifty enough

830
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: to be able to do that in the NFL. I

831
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: like him a lot. And I know we always say

832
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: I made this joke on Twitter like a month ago.

833
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: We always say like, don't scout the helmet, don't scout

834
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the program. But at this point, I'm like, oh, he

835
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: was a stud at South Carolina. He's probably pretty damn good.

836
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Whenever he has production playing alongside those guys, that's gonna help.

837
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: And without absolutely I don't have a problem with him,

838
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: other than maybe that I'm a little bit spoiled. You know,

839
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: we got for so many years it was like, well,

840
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: Dez is the X and Terence is the Z, and

841
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Beasley has to play in the slot because that's what

842
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: he does. And now you know, Amari and Lamb are

843
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: so damn versatile, and I'm a little bit spoiled. By

844
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: having guys that can move all over the place, and

845
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: I feel like Shy Smith, maybe he can play on

846
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: the outside, but I assume he would be primarily a slot.

847
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd be perfectly fine drafting him on Day three, But

848
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Speaker 1: I think there are other guys that are a little

849
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Speaker 1: bit more reversatile that I think I would rather have.

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Speaker 1: But I do like we probably haven't talked enough about

851
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Speaker 1: drafting a receiver because you have ten picks, it's a

852
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Speaker 1: loaded class, and we don't know what the future holds

853
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Speaker 1: from Michael Gallop, and so I absolutely love the idea

854
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Speaker 1: of restocking the depth chart. Probably not with not with

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Speaker 1: one of the first four picks, but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it would It would be a lot of fun to

857
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Speaker 1: use a Day three pick. And if I mean, if

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Speaker 1: Shy Smith is who they picked, I'm not going to

859
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Speaker 1: complain about it. What do you feel like the odds

860
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Speaker 1: are that the Cowboys do pick a receiver with ten

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Speaker 1: picks in the middle of this draft. Ten picks, I bet,

862
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Speaker 1: and who knows if who knows if they'll even make

863
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Speaker 1: all ten picks, But yeah, I think they've got six

864
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Speaker 1: picks on Day three right now. I bet one of

865
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Speaker 1: too deep, and you know between Gallop and obviously Noah

867
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Speaker 1: Brown and Cedric Wilson don't have long term situations here. Again,

868
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Speaker 1: I think with a class this loaded, I think it's

869
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Speaker 1: very smart to just sort of try to keep that

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Speaker 1: conveyor belt moving and that way. You know, not not

871
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: that that you're trying to kick Michael Gallop off the team,

872
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: but it gives you option. It gives you options for

873
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: the future, and you can get a really really good

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Speaker 1: player in the fourth, fifth, sixth round. And even better,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to play him right away like he

876
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Speaker 1: don't don't You don't need to lean on him as

877
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Speaker 1: a rookie. So I hope they do it. For sure.

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00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: If shy Smith ended up as a Cowboy, I wouldn't

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00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: be upset, don't nor should you. Like I said, there

880
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: are other guys I like more, But that doesn't mean

881
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Speaker 1: I dislike shy Smith at all. There you go. When

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Speaker 1: here over the last forty eight minutes. Kyle Yeoman's, David Hellman,

926
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin KT Turner, and Jeff find me a

927
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: linebacker that the Cowboys could draft Day two? Who could

928
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: start immediately? Ernie asked this question on Twitter. Is there

929
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: one available? Oh? Yeah, well start immediately? Who are you

930
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Speaker 1: kicking off the team you kick? If you make that decisions,

931
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: you have your starting limit. Okay, Well, the NFL on

932
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: he plays two starting linebackers, so whoever you pick is

933
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Speaker 1: not starting until you decline lv's fifth year option and

934
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Speaker 1: you get rid of number fifty four it for this season.

935
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Speaker 1: But that's okay, you can figure that out later. Um.

936
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Speaker 1: You know, it depends on how the draft falls, because

937
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, every year you start talking about, oh, I'd

938
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Speaker 1: love to have this guy at this pick, and then

939
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: the whole world goes he's not good at falling there

940
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, well you got CDLA at seventeen.

941
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: So my guy would obviously beat Nick Bolton, the Missouri linebacker,

942
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: if you can find a way to get him to

943
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: forty four, which is not impossible because he's five foot

944
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: eleven and he didn't test well athletically, so NFL teams

945
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: are gonna go, oh, small unathletic linebacker. When do I

946
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: pick him? And my answer is forty four if the

947
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: NFL will let you, because I love Nick Bolton. But

948
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a list of guys. So if

949
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: any of you guys are big fans of any of

950
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: these guys individually, feel free to talk about him. But

951
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: you got well, we say that Parsons is gone, Zavian

952
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Collins is gone, and Jayman Davis has gone by forty

953
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: four maybe and think so, yeah, that's pretty safe, okay,

954
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: And even if so, I would say, you've got guys

955
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: like Baron Brownie at Ohio State, who I'm a big

956
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: fan of, Jabrille Cox at LSU. I like, Okay, Dylan

957
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: Moses is interesting, but I don't trust him. Pete Warnard,

958
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State. My guy Jones, what's Ernest Jones? I believe

959
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: that South Carolina And I mean I've got more and

960
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: more and more and more guys. Yes, you can find

961
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: lineback round day two, and I think there's gonna be

962
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: a chance for some pretty good value on one. Baron

963
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Browning is on the shortlist of picks that would make

964
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: me do a backflip. I just met four. Yeah, I mean,

965
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where you'd have to take him.

966
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: And I just, I just I like his game a lot.

967
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: I think I think he could fall to seventy five.

968
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: It's and that like I I never I try not

969
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: not just a sweet spot, like he's not at forty

970
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: four seventy five, he's still more in between. I try

971
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 1: not to peck guys because like we're wrong all the time,

972
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Ja Jam and Davis. Nobody was

973
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: talking about until three weeks three, four weeks ago, and

974
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: now it's like that he was the first round, well

975
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: not only first round. People are like he might not

976
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: last at number twenty, So it's hard to peck this stuff.

977
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: I just I know you can get Baron Browning on

978
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: day two. And I like his game a lot. I

979
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: like his athleticism. He hits, he gets to the ball carrier,

980
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: he makes plays, and yeah, like if you needed him too,

981
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: I think he could start right away and you don't

982
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: have to spend a crazy expensive resource on him. And

983
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: unless it was bolted, I don't think I would have

984
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: loved a linebacker at forty four, but I would love

985
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: or I would like Browning at forty four over jimbro Cox,

986
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: And those are all guys who I would not mind

987
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: at all at seventy five because I do think you

988
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: still have to be kind of picky up there in

989
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: the top fifty and things like that. So whilst at

990
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: Baron Browning he always kind of looked for that guys.

991
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: When we talked about this earlier with Marvin Wilson, it's

992
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: a little different conversation with Baron Browning. You do give

993
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: him some bonus points for getting better as his career

994
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: went on. So that's something that Baron Browning absolutely did.

995
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he had out standing production and got better

996
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: as his career went on, and I think that's kind

997
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: of important. So again, day two is a good thing.

998
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: But I really don't want anything to do with linebacker

999
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: at ten or forty four, to be honest. Well, okay,

1000
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: well how about that. I've got to know I've got

1001
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: a thing that I'll make you happy. Then how about

1002
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: another Ohio State linebacker? A little bit later on Blake

1003
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: Kenson on Twitter asked would Pete Warner fit the Cowboys

1004
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: as a hybrid linebacker and what round would you target him?

1005
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: And I guess you're not does not like the question.

1006
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: CD is anti Pete Warner always has, just does not

1007
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: like him at all. Pete Wurn's fine. I think Pete

1008
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Warner on tape, I'll be honest. I was just like, Oh,

1009
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: here's a guy that's kind of not all that athletic

1010
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: and drops that he does are very basic, but he'll

1011
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: do his job. So I was like fourth, fifth round.

1012
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: And then his athletic testing was way better than I

1013
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: thought it would be. I didn't think he was that athletic,

1014
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: So I think that helps Pete Warner. I bet he's

1015
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: like a third round guy. If I had to guess,

1016
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to be the team

1017
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: that does that there. But Mike, I mean, again, as Dave,

1018
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use the weird word Dave was using,

1019
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: but I don't like to try to guess exactly where

1020
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: it's going to go. Wow, Pete Warner, Jeffrey Hug third round,

1021
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Jesus Jesus, jeff some of those numbers on Werner in

1022
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: his athletic testing four point five nine, one point five six.

1023
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: He had a pretty good jump, actually a top three

1024
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: vertical in the linebacker class, just under forty inches thirty

1025
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: nine and a half is what he was measured at.

1026
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: So you're right. I mean the numbers stuck out for him,

1027
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: and on tape he's fundamentally sound. He has a great history.

1028
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, his dad played football and baseball for DePaul

1029
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: University and he was a tight end for two years

1030
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's had the pedigree, he has the athleticism.

1031
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Why not try and take a guy like that later on,

1032
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: especially if Kat was talking about how he's scared of

1033
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: a guy at forty four, which okay, I don't want

1034
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: to turn this into the David Hellman LSU Tiger Hour,

1035
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: and I try not to do that on this. I mean,

1036
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: we talk about Jalen dartin so I am I'm curious,

1037
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: and so Kat's just Kat must love Jalen Smith because

1038
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: he's out on drafting linebackers early, and that's fine, and Vendish,

1039
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: that's yeah, good point. But all right, so you don't

1040
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: like what they have and you don't want to draft

1041
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: a linebacker. So I'm at a loss for your I'm

1042
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: at a loss for what's going on in KT fun

1043
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Land over there, but trying to pay you here on

1044
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing. God we are play four so close

1045
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: to the rails. Wait, okay, why here's my thing? Why? Well,

1046
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I would rather have a camera

1047
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: groan Amani rice a hafanga in round four. It picked

1048
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: one fifteen. Okay, I just linebacker is a valuable position

1049
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: to me. It's just not well it's it's not a

1050
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: top ten position, but I think, I mean, I think

1051
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: I think it is. If there's a guy worth taking

1052
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: at forty four, I think you do it. Which that

1053
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: is the question I wanted to ask. I feel like

1054
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: neither one of y'all really loves Jabril Cox. And I'm

1055
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: not saying he's the you know, he ain't Devin White,

1056
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: But what is it about him that you don't like?

1057
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: I think that he and jam And Davis in Kentucky, like,

1058
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: I think they're actually exact opposites. Like jam And Davis

1059
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: is an awesome run player and as a coverage guy,

1060
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to prove. Jabril Cox is an

1061
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: outstanding coverage guy. Yes, and I think he's a bad

1062
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: run defender, like I think his fits are bad. The

1063
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: diagnos is bad, the actual tackling itself is not good.

1064
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: So it's a linebacker who's a bad run player, Which

1065
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: is a really interesting question because I do believe coverage

1066
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: is super important today it's NFL. That's why he has

1067
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: so much value. But when a guy's not a good

1068
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: run defender, what do you do see that? I put

1069
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: him in the cheat around two three. I agree with

1070
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: everything you just said, but I feel completely different. I'm

1071
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: just like, give me the guy that can cover, and

1072
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm more familiar with Jabril Cox than a lot

1073
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: of these guys. I think that's because we're hurt because

1074
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: our linebackers can't necessarily cover. We're scarred by the fact

1075
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: that we want to cover his linebacker coverage. You want

1076
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: to see that coverage is what you can't teach. I

1077
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: would like I would like to think that a coach,

1078
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: a good coach can teach to play down hill can

1079
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: make you a better run defender, Like anybody with athleticism

1080
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: who is big enough to play in the NFL should

1081
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: be able to learn how to tackle better and you know,

1082
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: work against the run better. I don't know if you

1083
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: can teach a guy how to move in space and

1084
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: keep up with some of these athletes that are playing

1085
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: offense these days. So I'll and that's just me. I mean,

1086
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: it's like different flavors of flavors of ice cream. But like,

1087
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: I would rather try to teach Jabril Cox how to

1088
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: tackle than draft a guy that can't cover and hope

1089
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: that he can magically learn how to do that. So

1090
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: I want to try and get two questions in here

1091
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: before we're done with the show. First from Grady says

1092
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: to piggyback off of what Brian broad has said. On

1093
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: last week's show, Brian tried to trade that the tenth

1094
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: overall pick for Chase Young. That's unrealistic. We kind of

1095
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: hit that on the show. But what if Washington offered

1096
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: you the pick number nineteen and then also dron Payne

1097
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: for number ten. Is that a little bit more realistic?

1098
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: And would that be some thing you would be interested in? Jeff,

1099
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: you're already shaking your head no, because I agree with

1100
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Brian because we're kind of kicking it around on radio.

1101
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: And the thing with Washington is like, Okay, their division rival.

1102
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Is that going to stop me from trading with them

1103
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: if I think it's my best offer? It's not. But

1104
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: if they're coming up for their quarterback, they're not giving

1105
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: me a solid defensive tackle in nineteen for their future quarterback.

1106
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: You're not doing it like. That's why I actually think

1107
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: the Chase Young thing might seem far fetched, But that

1108
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: would be the very beginning of my conversation. If Washington

1109
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: calls is you want your future quarterback, well, then you're

1110
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna give me your stud pass rusher and number nineteen,

1111
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: and that'll be the beginning of our conversation. If that

1112
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: doesn't begin a conversation, we got nothing to talk about

1113
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: because you're wanting me to give you a quarterback. So

1114
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: it's either nineteen and next year's one and then some

1115
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: or it's let's talk about Chase Young. Yeah, that goes well. Hey,

1116
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: hey what we got we gotta ride Fitzpatrick though we

1117
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: got ride Fitzpatrick, though you got him, make this trade,

1118
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: we got fitz magic. Huh huh huh. Looking forward to

1119
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: playing against him, and one of the games against us,

1120
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw four scores and he's gonna beat us

1121
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: by seventeen. The other one he's gonna throw four picks

1122
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: and we're gonna win by thirty. So it'll be great

1123
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: going five and eleven this year. Well, get your games right,

1124
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: It goes true. Yeah, that's true. Well, wow, I gotta

1125
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: think about that. I don't want to put words in

1126
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: your mouth. I don't want to put words in your mouth.

1127
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: That goes Like when we argued about this the first time,

1128
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Brian was like, well, congratulations, they're they're gonna hang up

1129
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: the phone. They're not gonna trade with you. I'm like,

1130
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: that's fine, meet my price or buzz off, Like true,

1131
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm not helping quarterback. I'm not helping my division rival

1132
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: find a franchise quarterback. Honestly, I might not do it

1133
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: no matter what. But if I do it, you are

1134
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: going to pay well. And like, oh no, you're gonna

1135
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: hang up the phone on me. Guess I just have

1136
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: to pick a great player. What was me like, I

1137
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: want Yeah, I want to Ron Payne and next year's

1138
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: one and nineteen or or I want Chase Young and

1139
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: next year's or whatever, like I want a crazy price.

1140
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: If I'm expecting a team that I have to play

1141
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: twice a year to do business with me um into

1142
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: a question. But okay, And just to follow that up,

1143
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: like everybody is thinking it's absurd because Chase Young is

1144
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: so good, which he was supposed to be, But think

1145
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: about it. This way. Picking Chase Young for Washington was

1146
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: a massive mistake. Messive, How much better is that team

1147
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: if they picked Justin Herbert? M? Yeah, that's true. Is

1148
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: ten times brighter if they picked Justin Herbert. You want

1149
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: me to help you get your quarter knowing dude, wash helmet,

1150
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: you won't give me your defense end. Washington is a

1151
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: quarterback away from Gosh, that was a really I don't

1152
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to say that they would

1153
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: run this division if they had a good quarterback. But

1154
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: that is a scary freaking team with a good quarterback.

1155
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: I would be if that was Justin Herbert, I'd be

1156
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: scared for the next decade. And instead of Kyle Allen

1157
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: last year, and it should have been. I'm not I'm

1158
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: not trying. I'm not trying to help them find that

1159
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: puzzle piece unless they are really gonna pay me well

1160
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: for it. I don't know. If they wanted to give

1161
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: me two firsts and maybe talk about a defensive end

1162
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,479
Speaker 1: or somebody like that, to go up and pick mac Jones,

1163
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: I might let them do it, because I don't. I mean,

1164
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm also just not super Jane the quarterback. Oh no,

1165
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah that's but I can't let them know

1166
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: that before they agree to the press. You play it

1167
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: up like, oh man, Mac Jones, this guy, look at

1168
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, no, that's that's the way you do it,

1169
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: all right. Final question, and this one I was semi

1170
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: forced to Matt Jones forced to throw into this. Okay,

1171
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: So my girlfriend Lorena asked, if you could could make

1172
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: sure the Cowboys take Kyle Pitts at ten, but you

1173
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: couldn't contact your significant other or your best friend. If

1174
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: you don't have a significant other for a month, would

1175
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: you do it? You wouldn't talk to anybody significant your

1176
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: best friend, but the Cowboys or just help saying Kyle,

1177
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: we're just helping Kyle Yeoman's get brownie points here today.

1178
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Necessarily true. Um, I don't know what I'm going to answer.

1179
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: Is that supposed to be? Yes? I do. Is that

1180
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be considered a significant cost? Is that the

1181
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: idea it supposed to be something that would be supposed

1182
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: to be something that you give up from? Yeah, this

1183
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: is I mean, as long as as long as you're

1184
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: allowed to tell them first. I'm sure I do that.

1185
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Just I had to be able to clear cold turkey. No,

1186
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't know they can't know what's going on.

1187
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: What's going on? Oh, they're not gonna look Kyle Pitts

1188
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: go Yeah, good pig, Chris, it's just popped on Xbox.

1189
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: What Yeah, that's said? Are we talking about your relationship?

1190
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: No? No No, No, this is you because I wanted to.

1191
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to put it out there as the only

1192
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: single guy on this show. This is easy. I don't

1193
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: like I don't love my friends that much. Give me,

1194
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. I'd love to see you go a month

1195
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: without talking to Chuck. I want to see this. Oh,

1196
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: I can get to do that one No, I could

1197
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: do that. I just spent a week with her in Hawaii.

1198
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: I could absolutely do that. Just never talk to her again.

1199
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: The best thing ever for my relationship would be to

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01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: not talk to her for a month because she doesn't

1201
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: want to be around me. She's annoyed by me. It'd

1202
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: be great for her. No, I've been I've been around.

1203
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: I've been around how often Jeff spends on FaceTime with

1204
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: his significant other, And I just don't think that would

1205
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: go very well for there you go. No, I like it.

1206
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: So I for Kyle Pitts, I would say no, I

1207
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: would not do that. But if it's Rashawn s later

1208
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: a Pennay sul Oh talk, that's so lame. Might you

1209
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: would make that sacrifice offensive offensive line? I like, I

1210
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: like the potential there, But that's gonna do it for

1211
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: us here on the Draft show. So glad you've been

1212
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: with us here over the last hour, for Chris Bean,

1213
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: for David HELLMT, Jeff Cavanaugh, Kevin KT Turnerho pulls out

1214
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: the guitar right at the end, I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll

1215
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: see you on Thursday, Draft nine days away. We'll see

1216
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: you next day, every bird. This has been a production

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.