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Speaker 1: and Friends. I am super excited for those of you

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Speaker 1: who have listened to me and us for many, many years.

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Speaker 1: You know how much I love golf. You know how

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Speaker 1: much I love the Masters in particular. You should know

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Speaker 1: that it's my favorite sporting event on the sports calendar.

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Speaker 1: And I am about to speak with We are about

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Speaker 1: to speak with two time Masters champion Bubba Watson. He

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Speaker 1: has a new book out, really really fascinating conversation about

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Speaker 1: mental health, about what it was like to win that

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Speaker 1: really unique guy, introspective guy, interesting guy, and fun guy.

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Speaker 1: And again at two times, not one. Okay, that man

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Speaker 1: has two green coats in his closet. I have won

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Speaker 1: that I won back when I was in college. What

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Speaker 1: me and my friends did was we would play EA Sports,

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Speaker 1: Tugger Woods Golf, Saga Genesis. We would play so Thursday,

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Speaker 1: opening round to the Masters, we would play hour opening round.

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Speaker 1: Then we do the same thing Friday, Saturday, Sunday and

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Speaker 1: the Salvation Army and I won it once. How about that.

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Speaker 1: Bubba's got too, I got one. Anyway, Bubba Watson at

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Speaker 1: a shot that only Bubba Watson could hit the tournament,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things happened Mike Ryan Parkland Golfing country Club.

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Speaker 1: which Mike the two would certainly buck Bubba alf With

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Speaker 1: all that said, uh, two time Master champion, Bubba Watson,

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Speaker 1: Uh is about to Uh is about to join us.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited for this. He's got a new book.

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Speaker 1: App Listen to his story, Listen to what he has

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Speaker 1: There's some fun in your two, but what he has

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Speaker 1: to say is is super important. So Bubba Watson, two

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Speaker 1: couple of Masters champions getting ready? Cut it out.

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Speaker 2: That's two quick things before we get to Bubba.

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Speaker 3: And again, not the same thing. Your green jacket and

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Speaker 3: his green jacket?

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Speaker 1: Are you chugging that water because you've done so many

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, And I just went to the gym, you know.

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Speaker 1: What is Bubba Watson doing when he goes to the gym.

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Speaker 5: There's a place called there's a place called Exos right

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Speaker 5: here in Golf Breeze by my house in Pascola, and

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Speaker 4: It's the everyday life stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's it's to make you better everywhere, make all functional

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Speaker 4: Right exactly. I don't want to get into it too fast.

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Speaker 1: Victories and struggles in the course of life. Why did

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Speaker 5: So there was there was moments after winning the twelve

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Speaker 1: You write a book, Yeah, exactly right. How many days

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Speaker 4: There was no physical. When I say physical, there's.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's never won a major on the PGA Tour, but

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Speaker 5: he's a great talent. Right, Ryder Cup champion now and

435
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Speaker 5: all these things. But so now when you think about

436
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Speaker 5: when I went down to my knees when I saw

437
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Speaker 5: one sixty two on the on the scale, I just

438
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Speaker 5: turned and you know, I'm twelve fifteen feet from my bed.

439
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Speaker 5: So I came out of the bathroom and I just

440
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Speaker 5: fell to my knees and said, take me now, I

441
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Speaker 5: don't want to go through this. And so really talking

442
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Speaker 5: right then, when I can hear the voice in my

443
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Speaker 5: head and you know, you're you know, my my wife's

444
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Speaker 5: in the other room, my kids are in the other room,

445
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Speaker 5: and I'm sitting there going okay, take me now. But

446
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Speaker 5: let's say you have ten more minutes to There's no

447
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Speaker 5: other way. We say it, ten more minutes to live.

448
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Speaker 5: I want it to be the best ten minutes of

449
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Speaker 5: my my wife's life. I want her to realize, like

450
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Speaker 5: I'm here, I've got ten more minutes. I want you

451
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Speaker 5: to find a great man better than me. I want

452
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Speaker 5: you to find some way that loves our kids, you know,

453
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Speaker 5: I want you know, just started going through all these

454
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Speaker 5: things in my head. Then I said, well, if you

455
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Speaker 5: got thirty minutes, if this is the longest, my stomach,

456
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Speaker 5: my stomach, at my heart. I felt like I was

457
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: having heart attacks right when these things happened, and so

458
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Speaker 5: I was like, man, if this is the longest heart attack,

459
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Speaker 5: what if it lasts thirty minutes. Then I got thirty

460
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Speaker 5: minutes to bless my wife, bless my kids. And then

461
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Speaker 5: I was like, what if the doc says I have

462
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 5: now six months to live and a year to live?

463
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Speaker 5: So I just in my head it started making sense

464
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Speaker 5: in my head, and that's how I got up off

465
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Speaker 5: the off the floor is like going, well, hold on

466
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Speaker 5: a second, if this is the last I have, then

467
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Speaker 5: let's go make it the best that I have. And

468
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Speaker 5: so that's what got me off. It wasn't about golf.

469
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Speaker 5: It wasn't about getting better at golf, it wasn't about

470
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Speaker 5: putting better. It was none of that. It was just

471
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Speaker 5: about my own family, my own friends. And like you said,

472
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Speaker 5: I'm still going to have bad moments. I'm going to

473
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Speaker 5: have hiccup moments in my life. I'm going to have

474
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Speaker 5: some down, really down times, hopefully a lot more positive

475
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Speaker 5: than down. And so that's really what got me off

476
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Speaker 5: and changed my mindset, is like, Okay, you got to

477
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Speaker 5: learn to catch this.

478
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Speaker 4: Why did this start? And then you dig back in

479
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Speaker 4: your life and start.

480
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Speaker 5: Looking at like the Ryder cup, the lieics, and where'd

481
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Speaker 5: you start going wrong and where did you start thinking?

482
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 5: Why did you change your thinking? You know, and you

483
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 5: start processing that and hopefully my team and me and

484
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 5: my wife we can catch it before it happens again

485
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 5: or before I spiral start spiraling that way. But that's

486
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Speaker 5: what pulled me up is that my own thoughts in

487
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 5: my head started talking about, well, how am I going

488
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 5: to be better for my kids?

489
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Speaker 4: How much be better for my wife?

490
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Speaker 5: If I have only a few days or a few

491
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Speaker 5: moments to live and So that's really what jumped me

492
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Speaker 5: off the floor at that moment, and that's what's propelled

493
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Speaker 5: me this way. Now, don't get me wrong, since that time,

494
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Speaker 5: I've had a lot of moments, but you know, I

495
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Speaker 5: think I've had more better moments than bad moments.

496
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Speaker 1: How about have you noticed.

497
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Speaker 6: More people are now willing to approach you since you've

498
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Speaker 6: gone public with your issues and the book coming out?

499
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Speaker 6: I mean, how much does it does it help to

500
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Speaker 6: talk to someone who's going through similar things, both for

501
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Speaker 6: you and for people who approach you.

502
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, again, like I said about my wife,

503
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Speaker 5: that's a great that's a great question. But I said

504
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Speaker 5: about my wife, she's sounding So when somebody approaches me

505
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 5: a volunteer at tournaments, it could be a sponsor at

506
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 5: a tournament, it could be a fan at a tournament,

507
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 5: or another player. Not going to call anybody's names, but

508
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 5: there's people that have reached out to me and asked

509
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: me questions, and it's really I'm a sounding board. I

510
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 5: want to inspire them, and really, when it comes down

511
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 5: to it, all I can say to them is I'll

512
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 5: pray for them, right like I because their situation it's

513
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 5: the same, but it's going to always be different, right,

514
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: because it could be family members that are causing it.

515
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Speaker 4: It could be so many things in somebody's life.

516
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Speaker 5: But all you can do is be there for them,

517
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: and yes that they've reached out more than I ever expected.

518
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 5: And how many people are truly going through something is astronomical.

519
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 5: I mean you can't even I mean ninety nine percent

520
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 5: of the people in the world are probably going through

521
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 5: something and they don't want to share because it's kind

522
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Speaker 5: of like adoption.

523
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Speaker 4: You asked these questions earlier.

524
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Speaker 5: Adoption was like a stigmatism back in seventies and eighties,

525
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 5: you know, people didn't talk about being you know, adopting

526
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Speaker 5: kids and different things.

527
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Speaker 4: But now I think.

528
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Speaker 5: It's adoption is a I wouldn't sa cool, that's not

529
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 5: the right way to say it, but a great thing.

530
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Speaker 4: People see it as a great thing.

531
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Speaker 5: And I think the mental stuff it's just now coming

532
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 5: in the open, where now it's not going to be

533
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Speaker 5: like you're less of a man.

534
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Speaker 4: Because you spoke up like you need help.

535
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes we put that on ourselves where

536
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 5: we think we're gonna be less of a man if

537
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 5: we don't speak up and don't seek help. So yeah,

538
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 5: it's been inspiring where people have come to me and

539
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 5: asked me questions and said thank you for speaking up.

540
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 5: It made me, it helped my son, or it helped me.

541
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Speaker 5: So it's yeah, it's been it's been amazing going to

542
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Speaker 5: golf from it's now and the like I said, sponsors

543
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 5: of major tournaments, volunteers, fans and players as well caddies.

544
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 5: It's pretty much everybody across the board has been pretty

545
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: cool about it and speaking.

546
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: Up about it.

547
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Speaker 2: I would imagine that that's rewarding for you, like on

548
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: two fronts, right, because you one get to help others

549
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: through your own struggles, and at the same time, while

550
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: talking these things out and helping people through these experiences,

551
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: you're also reminding yourself and walk through this on yourself

552
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: and getting yourself back to being centered and not losing

553
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: sight of what's important to you because you're telling them

554
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Speaker 2: to do the same essentially, right.

555
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's we need to be a big family, right.

556
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: We all want love, we all want respect. However that

557
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 5: love looks I mean respect and love, and so for me, yeah,

558
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it gives me a chance to let stuff out,

559
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: but it also I get to hear other people and

560
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 5: maybe I learned something from them when they speak out

561
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Speaker 5: to me right and try to say I'm an inspiration.

562
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Speaker 5: But then I hear something that they say and I, oh,

563
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: that does make sense, and maybe.

564
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Speaker 4: I should start thinking about that.

565
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, you're trying to help everybody. But yeah,

566
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Speaker 5: at the same time, I you know, you want to

567
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: be a sounding board and you want to learn from them,

568
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 5: and they learn from me.

569
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Speaker 4: So yeah, you're right. It's a it's a cool thing.

570
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 4: It makes me, It does make me feel good.

571
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 5: But voice, and you know, everybody needs it, and it

572
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: makes me feel good because I do get to voice

573
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Speaker 5: my own issues. Sometimes my wife might not like it

574
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 5: because A voice a lot, but it's but it's been

575
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: good for us, and it's I think it's been good

576
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 5: for everybody that hears my story up and.

577
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: Down, victories and struggles in the course of life. Bubba,

578
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: if you had to take that shot, were you in

579
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: a position two years before when you won the first Masters,

580
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: they hit the shot that you hit in the second

581
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: Masters on the thirteenth hole. It was an amazing pitch,

582
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: one of the great shots I've ever seen, led to

583
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Speaker 1: an eagle, led to your second Master, championship. Would you

584
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Speaker 1: have been able to hit that shot? Process go through

585
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: that shot three years before that? Let's say no.

586
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: I mean I think there's there's things that happened over

587
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: the course.

588
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 5: I mean twenty ten, when me and Martin Kimer had

589
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 5: the playoff at the Whistling Straits and I hit a

590
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Speaker 5: shot thinking I was going to be able to hit

591
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 5: this shot. You know, this young kid would thinks, and

592
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: I have muscles, I was gonna hit the shot. I

593
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: remember a six hourn out of the rough, came up

594
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 5: short in the in the water and make a double bogi,

595
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 5: lose by one in the playoff, And so you know,

596
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: it's it's remembering those shots. It's trying to learn from

597
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 5: those shots, more mature in.

598
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 4: Shots like that.

599
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: And so I you know, I think over the course

600
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: of my career, I've learned a little bit. And so

601
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: I think, you know, winning in two thousand and ten,

602
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: If I would have won in twenty ten at Whistling Straits,

603
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 5: who knows where my life would be. The struggles might

604
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: have happened sooner, you know, giving myself two years my

605
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: dad passing away, learning about that, learning about what's important

606
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: in life started me on the right process for twenty

607
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 5: twelve and then twenty fourteen and then obviously my low

608
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 5: point in my life. I mean, I came out of it,

609
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: but you know, you learn a lot about yourself in

610
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: certain situations. And hopefully five years from now, if we

611
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: do another interview, hopefully I'm still growing and go in

612
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: the right direction.

613
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: But people see Bubba Watson like they see it on

614
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: the surface fun, right, They see fun. Here's a fun

615
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: guy owns a general lead. Okay, guy bought the jo

616
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: And you mentioned your backyard earlier and how you got

617
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: through the pandemic, and that would help get you through

618
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: the pandemic. I want the fun side of Bubble Watson

619
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: right now. Paint a picture of that backyard for us,

620
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: because it sounds like the most amazing thing ever he does.

621
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we we we have gosh, the

622
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: pavers around the yard, probably almost half a mile of pavers,

623
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 5: so the way that the yard is. We have an

624
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 5: indoor There was a boat house for the gentleman. I

625
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 5: bought it from but we turned it into indoor pickleball, basketball,

626
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 5: the old man's shuffle board, you know.

627
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: With the old stuff. Yeah, yeah, so I have the

628
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: shuffle board. We have.

629
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Speaker 5: Gosh, four square and two square, the old bounce in

630
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 5: the ball game.

631
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: So then we go.

632
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: Now we move to so like you know, with the pavers,

633
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: we could ride a half a mile on our bikes.

634
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: We never left our yard, right, and so we could

635
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: do all these things and never have to have contact

636
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: with other people during this crazy pandemic. And then you

637
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 5: walk past the pool and then you it's about sixty

638
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 5: yards past the pool is the is the water in

639
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: the fence. So that's where our ski boat is, our

640
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: skioutique where we wake.

641
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: We wake surf.

642
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: I love wakesurfing, and so off to buy you and

643
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: then have a grady White fishing boat thirty two foot,

644
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: so we can go from the bayou out to the

645
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: bay a Scambia Bay where the blue Wahoo's hit home

646
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 5: runs into the Scambia Bay. And then we go and

647
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: then we have the Gulf of Mexico. I don't go

648
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: on the gulf though, by the way, I'm scared to

649
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: go out and the golf I can't see land.

650
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: I feel like I can't. I'm not supposed to be

651
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: out there.

652
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: And so so we stay in the bay, but we

653
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 5: go snapper fishing. It's easiest for the kids where you

654
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 5: just dropped the line about fifty feet down and then

655
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: there's dolphins all the time. So during our pandemic, it

656
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: was probably some of the best times our families ever

657
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: spent together.

658
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: It was a it was a blast.

659
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: The house you speak of, that's it's Tiger's house, right,

660
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: it's tigers old house. Correct.

661
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: No, that was okay, And that was a long time ago, man,

662
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: eleven houses.

663
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Since then, I feel like I infected you, Mike. I

664
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: was like, Man, that was so long ago, eleven houses ago.

665
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Stop moving, man, exactly, Mikey, go ahead.

666
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 6: I'm sorry you have you have all these gets, you know,

667
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 6: you got a place just for shuffleboard and pickleball and

668
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 6: all this stuff. What's the game besides golf that Bubba

669
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 6: Watson can't lose.

670
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: That that's any game. It doesn't matter what it is.

671
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: There's so it's so funny. So, uh, we had a

672
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: friend over and his wife.

673
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 5: We didn't know at the time his wife was was

674
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: was pregnant. But she said she didn't feel good. That's

675
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 5: all she said to us. And we're like okay, And

676
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you could be on my team.

677
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: Because her I didn't think her husband was that good

678
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: at sports. So Angie and him and me and her

679
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 5: and we're playing pickleball and finally she was like.

680
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: I just don't feel good.

681
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: And you know, she was my teammate, and I was like, okay,

682
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: well can I take over? And she goes, yeah, And

683
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 5: we were losing at that time, but I was like,

684
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: I was going to die on that court.

685
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: There's no chance I.

686
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 5: Was losing pickleball to these two people. One was my

687
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: wife and one was another friend. But but yeah, when

688
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: it comes to school words, I just, you know, the

689
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: craziness takes over, and I really think I'm good at

690
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: basketball when I'm not, but I think I am.

691
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: I think I'm good at tennis but I'm not, but

692
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: I think I am. So yes, we have some heat.

693
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: Me and my wife have some heated battles.

694
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: When we were at the Solheim couple couple of weeks ago,

695
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: we played ping pong. They had these little miniature ping

696
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: pong tables. It was like half the size of a

697
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 5: normal one. And that day would all start watching because

698
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: me and Angie would start playing and we were just

699
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 5: we were yelling.

700
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: She was throwing stuff. I mean, it was just it.

701
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 5: Was and so we just get heated because she's an athlete.

702
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, So when it comes to anything, it doesn't

703
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: matter what it is. It could be swimming, who has

704
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: the best looking dive, It doesn't matter what it is.

705
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: You're not going to let your kids win anything, are you? No?

706
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: No, I don't let them score in basketball. I mean.

707
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: The wait wait wait, you send balls back into the crowd,

708
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: like that's how hard you're rejecting them.

709
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, you go. You gotta teach them. My dad

710
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: did that to me. You got to learn.

711
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: There is no ribbon.

712
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 5: You don't get a participation ribbon. There's no such thing

713
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: as that.

714
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna earn it. Yeah, I love you, Bubba.

715
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Wats it I really do? I listen. I'm a lefty,

716
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm a golfer. I love golf. Okay, And there's so

717
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: many people trying to put so many things into your head.

718
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: This is how you swing the club, This is how

719
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: you hold the club. What I love about you is

720
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: you said FM a long time ago. Okay, and I

721
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: think I once heard you say something. I need your

722
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: help here, Bubba. Is where this is all leading to.

723
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Everyone's body is different. There's no exact right way to

724
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: hold the club, find what's comfortable and let it rip.

725
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Is that fair? I need some.

726
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: Advice, yes, for sure.

727
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: So my wife played in the WBA, played three years overseas.

728
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: So when she started playing golf, she said, I need lessons,

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: and I said, why when you shot a free throw,

730
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: you just shot free throws and then it started. You know,

731
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: as a kid you throw it with two hands, and

732
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 5: then you get older or more stronger, however you want

733
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 5: to ward it. And so I said, well, play your slice.

734
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: Mark Calcavecchia played a slice his whole career. He was

735
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 5: pretty good, you know, he won multiple multiple times. And

736
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: so I said, just play it and whatever that feels like,

737
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 5: use it. So you got to get you, You got

738
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: to as an athlete, you got to remember your the

739
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: feeling and then stick with it and then just play it.

740
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 5: Aimed to the left for her being righty, aimed to

741
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: the left and slice it back to the fairway. And

742
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 5: she shot seventy one, seventy one, and you know, you know,

743
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: after months of practice, and then she wanted lessons and

744
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: I was like, we'll just go get lessons. And then

745
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 5: it's been a struggle ever since. But so what I'm

746
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: getting at is you know, some people need they need talk,

747
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: they need some pointers. But then athletes, true athletes can

748
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 5: go out there and figure it out on their owns.

749
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: And you seem like a true athlete. So you just

750
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: go out there and rip it and have fun with it,

751
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: you know.

752
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what they say about me, Bob. I'm

753
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: truth up and down, victories and struggles in the course

754
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: of life. We'll get you out of here in just

755
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: a second. The book is out now, so get it

756
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: wherever books are sold. Where's the general lee right now?

757
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Where is that thing?

758
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna be dead, honest, you're the first person

759
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: that's asked me this question in a long time. Okay,

760
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: so that generally is gone. It is somewhere in Texas.

761
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 5: I gave the keys. I literally gave the keys to

762
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 5: my team. I said, I don't want to know where

763
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: it is. I don't want to know the name of

764
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: the people, I said, but I need to get rid

765
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: of it. And the reason why is because again it

766
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: goes back to social media and media, and there was

767
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: a lot of things I had to deal with that

768
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: aren't true, but people put that on me even though

769
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 5: it's not true.

770
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: And then when I think about my kids growing up.

771
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 5: I don't need them having to deal with that stuff, right,

772
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: They're already going to have enough being adopted kids. They're

773
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: going to already have enough issues that we got to

774
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 5: work through. And so I don't know the man's name,

775
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: I don't know where it is. What part Texas is

776
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: big enough. I said, you can tell me what state.

777
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 5: So they told me Texas and that's all I know.

778
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 5: So it's been gone for a few months, but I

779
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: just I just felt like it was time. With my

780
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 5: mental stuff going on and everything going on, I need

781
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 5: I need to just get rid of it. Let let

782
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: somebody else deal with it. And so that's really what happened.

783
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: I lost money on that deal. But it was fun though.

784
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: But what you knew is that you just needed to

785
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: get rid of it. That's it.

786
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it wasn't and I but I know in

787
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: my heart and I know in my mind I bought

788
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 5: it because my.

789
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: Dad and me, me and my dad watched the show.

790
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: We watched night Rider, we watch Duke Sazer.

791
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 5: We watch a team, and then Airwolf came out for

792
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: a couple of seasons, and so you know, it's one

793
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: of those lifetime dreams that it came available, and they

794
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: accepted my bid, and I wanted who doesn't want a

795
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: car that jumps right?

796
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: And so yeah, but it just it was too much

797
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: on my It was too much.

798
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 5: On my my mind and my heart every time something

799
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 5: came up with racism and stuff, and I just I couldn't.

800
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 4: I couldn't personally deal with it anymore.

801
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: Well, in twenty thirteen, you were named a Great Floridian.

802
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Some other Great Floridians are Walt Disney, Steve Spurrier, Tim Tebow,

803
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: and Harry S. Truman. How does someone approach you to

804
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: ask you if you want to become a Great Floridian?

805
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 4: That's when they didn't. You don't really, they didn't really ask.

806
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, when the government or congress or representatives of Florida,

807
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 5: you know, they ask you to come to Tallahassee the

808
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 5: state capitol.

809
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 4: I think it's the state capital. It is, so they

810
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: ask you, you're yeah, That's why I knew y'all would appreciate.

811
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: That, and so so when they asked you to come, yeah,

812
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 5: so it was you know, it's an honor and a privilege.

813
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: You know, this where I'm.

814
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: From in Baghdad, you know, the village of Baghdad got

815
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 5: signs up about me too. But yeah, it's a It's

816
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 5: an honor and a privilege to be I mean when

817
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 5: you name those names, those people have actually done some

818
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: great things in their life, and all I've done is

819
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: just never had a lesson.

820
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: So right, that's exactly right. You never had a lesson,

821
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: God Master Champion. That drives me crazy, Billy, How do

822
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: I get on that list? I think you're gonna make

823
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: the cut. Wait, so I know you love singing. I

824
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: know you love music. You're in a band with Ricky Fowler.

825
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: It's all for charity. It's fantastic. What's that? And I'll

826
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: get you out of here in a second, I promise.

827
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: What's the go to karaoke song for Bubba Watson? Oh? Wow?

828
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm gonna be dead honest with you. I

829
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: don't like country music. You heard that first. A guy

830
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: named Bubba does.

831
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 4: Not like music.

832
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: But there is a song I don't know who sings it,

833
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 5: but Fancy Light. So my kids are singing this country

834
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: song named fancy Like. It's almost like rap music. I

835
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: love beats my head, I love beats and so one

836
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: line he says, bougie like Natty in a styrofoam cup.

837
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 5: And anybody that knows my dad before he passed away,

838
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: we called it the beer store. But he went to

839
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: the tom Thumb store or the gas station. He asked

840
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: for the cheapest beer, which was Natty Light, and then

841
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 5: he went natural light, whatever you want to word it.

842
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 5: But and then he would ask for the cheapest cigarettes.

843
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: He always said he's going to down a discount, and

844
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: not saying that was a great saying, but that's what

845
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 5: he said. And so me and my mom we talk

846
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 5: about that song because we could picture.

847
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: My dad, and my wife can picture my dad.

848
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: My kids weren't around at that moment, but all the

849
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: people around me can picture my dad with a starphone cup.

850
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: He always had a starphone cup. Junior golf tournaments. I'm

851
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: letting the cat out of the bag with junior golf tournments.

852
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: He was fake it. That wasn't like a coke. That

853
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: was that was real stuff. And so that song right

854
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: now hits me. My kids dance to it.

855
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: There's a little dance and they talk about Applebee's and

856
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: I mean they just so that when that moment that

857
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: song comes on, it means more than because of just

858
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 5: the funny moments of remembering my dad of the Starpham

859
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 5: Cumpany's hand and definitely Natty Light for sure.

860
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: Natty Light up and down victories and struggles in the

861
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: course of life. Bubba Watson, we appreciate your courage. We

862
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing your story with us. We appreciate you

863
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: trying to help others. Uh, it's super important that people

864
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: who are going through this here from people like you.

865
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, and I mean I'm a yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Watching you win those two green jackets was listen,

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Speaker 1: you might not be able to take one of them out.

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Speaker 1: Have you taken the other one out yet? By the way,

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Speaker 1: are you proud of it yet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And so in two so you get it for a year.

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Speaker 5: So in twenty fourteen, I took it out. Let people

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Speaker 5: see it, Let people take pictures with it, you know,

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Speaker 5: especially kids. Right, someone inspire kids from a small small

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Speaker 5: town like I was from to get outside, not not

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Speaker 5: not just to be a golfer, but.

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Speaker 4: To improve their life and improve their their their spot.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, I was gonna say, because I know a man

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Speaker 1: that would gladly show it off for you if you

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Speaker 1: were to taking that exactly all right, good luck with

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Speaker 1: the book man, and thank you for sharing your story.

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Speaker 1: This was this was fantastic. Thank you so much. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Bubba Watson for joining us. That was a

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Speaker 1: real thrill for me. I hope you enjoyed that. Go

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Speaker 1: buy his book to for me with that being my

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Speaker 1: favorite sporting event. Uh to be able to sit there

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Speaker 1: on Zoom face to face with a two time Masters

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Speaker 1: champion was was a threat. So we appreciate his time again,

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Speaker 1: go buy his book. Thanks to uh Baba for giving

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Speaker 1: us so much of his time. Thanks to mikey A

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Speaker 1: and Billy Gills always always appreciated all of their help. Listen,

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Speaker 1: check us out. God Bless football this Friday and every Friday.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be joined this week as we

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Speaker 1: normally are, by Chris SAMs and by Mike gold Like

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Speaker 1: we have Mojo back, we have Chris Gornkowski back, and

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Speaker 1: we also have Joba Chamberlain. God Bless football. Stupid it