1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: What's up everyone? 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: It is at Bucky Brooks and my man Aoz Lance 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Airline is here and this is the Move to six podcast. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: And today we're going to break down the Brookies and 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna begin to get a little insight from Lance 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: on which rookie should be the front runners for the 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year award, the Defensive Rookie of 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: the Year award. And then I'm gonna press them on 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: a man, give me some dark Horses's some guys that 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: can come out the back woods to maybe steal the 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: plaque or the trophy at the end of it. 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: So, Alz, what's going on? 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Man? 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? I'm excited to get into it. 16 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: This is you know, this is our time. We watch 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the players who we studied and now we try to 18 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: take their college tape and plug them in with the pros. 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: And how how are we looking? Do we get it right? 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Early on? Do we see people who are making jumps 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: very very quickly? Every year I get the email from 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Dan Parr, Hey a Lance, hope you're having a great summer. 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Here comes in it comes the articles, and he said 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year. And I said, okay, cool, 25 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: This is a great way for me to get a 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: feel for what the you know, we don't We don't 27 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: do a lot of it here on our on the 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: podcast or in anything that we're doing. But I like 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: to look at what the odds are for these guys 30 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: from the different casinos and see how much in alignance 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: with what my thoughts are after studying the tape and 32 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: studying where they are and sometimes in alliance, and sometimes 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: I think they got it way wrong. So we can 34 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: take a look at that and I'll give you my 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: I'll give you my thoughts on ness. I had Keon 36 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Coleman number ten. Now, we all love Keon Coleman's personality 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: and all the yone's all excited about the soundbites with 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Keon Coleman. But when it came time for me to 39 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: look at Rookie of the Year, this is what I said. 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: He's got Dalton Kinkaid, who I think is going to 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: be a breakout star this year. For Josh Allen, James Cook, 42 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and Ray Davis, who's a rookie out of who's a 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: rookie out of Kentucky, who can play all three downs 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: as well as a good backup, a bigger player than 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: James Cook. And I started thinking, you know, they may 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: really start to lean more on that. Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Hey, 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: let's run everything through the tight end. Could be our 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: number one pass catcher, and we're going to run the 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. So when I got to 50 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: Kean Coleman, I thought, yeah, in theory, he's a good 51 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year candidate. But my problem was, I 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be able to get 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: open enough Bucky against NFL corners outside. I'm not sure 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: that he's not maybe going to have some learning curves there. 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, his quarterback is a great quarterback, 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: but he's not exactly mister pinpoint precision all the time 57 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: on the throws down the field. So I love the 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: the ball winning of Keon Coleman. I love the catch radius. 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: I think they both work in his favor. But I 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: think Josh Allen may start to lock in on Dalton Kinkaid, 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: which will hurt hurt Keon Coleman's chances of winning Rookie 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: of the Year. 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: I think The thing that hurts Kanon Coleman is is 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 2: not even him, is the guys that are around him. Like, look, 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: they have a hodgepodge of playmakers that they've assimi highspodger 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: or pass catcher. I won't even say playmakers, hogspoge or 67 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: pass catchers. They've kind of brought together to try and 68 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 2: sort out to see which ones can be their top 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: five or six wide receivers. And Keyank Coleman is someone 70 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: who at Florida State, he's serve on the ability to 71 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: be a big time playmaker. But if you don't have 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: someone that can maybe uncover him or take the top 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: off the defense man, it becomes really really tight when 74 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: you think about a tied En centric passing game with 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Keank Coleman as the complement. So I would need to 76 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: see this Buffalo Bill's team play out. And I know 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills are counting on Josh Allen to elevate 78 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: the wide receiver corps in a way that Pat Mahomes 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: was able to do in Kansas City. I just don't 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: know if there's enough speed on the field to be 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: able to change it. And I know people say, well, 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: what Abou Khalil secure, and what about kJ Hamley who 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: could come in. We'll see which guys eventually make the team, 84 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: but right now they don't have an established number one, 85 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: and that makes it really really easy for defense to 86 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: kind of clamp down and squeeze the passing game and 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 2: really make it very tight for the quarterback. 88 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, that leads me to the next two guys, and 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: I actually love both these players this year. I've got 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Romadunze number nine, and he's plus four thousand from an 91 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: odd standpoint many meaning you he's forty to one. It's 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars to win four thousand, just to give 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: you an idea. He's forty to one at number eight. 94 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I've got lad McConkie who's at thirty to one. I 95 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: think with Roma Donze, it's just simply a case of 96 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: so many weapons. And in our last podcast we talked 97 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: about all the weapons for Caleb Williams. I just think 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: there's so many mouths to feed there in Chicago. It's 99 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: going to be hard for a Dunzae to get to 100 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: get the amount of catches. And even if he does 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: get the catches, the guy throwing it to him is 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: is still going to be the front runner, So I 103 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: don't think I think I'll have a hard time winning 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: that award now, but I do expect a good season 105 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: from Roma Donze. To me, I think Lad McConkie is 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the guy to really keep an eye on as a 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: dark horse, because I know he's thirty to one, But man, 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of oportunities for I mean, do 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: you feel like Quintin Johnson has earned the trust of 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Jim Harbar or earned the trust more importantly I Justin Herbert. 111 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I don't know that with the drops, I don't know 112 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: that he has. You have two wide receivers who have 113 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: been there forever are gone yet Lad McConkey, who can 114 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: get open and separate on really all three levels. He's 115 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a great route runner, has good separation, verst has some speed, 116 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: deep in, great hands, catches everything. I mean, would it 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: be crazy for Justin Herbert to really kind of lock 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: in on his rookie wide receiver who he feels confident 119 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: in that will that he can throw the windows and 120 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: he'll make catches. 121 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough, right, because I've seen these clips on 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: social media, and some of these appear to be edited 123 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: and doctored when they're talking about Quint Johnson's struggling with 124 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: the over the shoulder catches and all this other stuff. 125 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: I'll say this, man, he was a good player at TCU. 126 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: He has some issues with the drop seas, but if 127 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: he can give them that vertical element to compliment what 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: should be a pretty physical running game, he can still 129 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: be an effective player. But in terms of the numbers, 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, And so that really opens up a 131 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: lane for Lad mccacky to kind of come in there 132 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: and be the chain. The issue that we're having with 133 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: all of the charges right now is man the injuries, 134 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: Like I don't know what's in the water down there 135 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: in Elsa Gundo, but there's something going on with these 136 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: dudes get banged up and beat up. But Lab mccaky 137 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: is a good route runner. 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: He's interesting. 139 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: He would need Quinn Johnson to be able to take 140 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: some of that coverage away, but he should be able 141 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: to be a productive chamber. I don't know if he's 142 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: scoring enough touchdowns to wiggle his way into that award, 143 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: though I've. 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Got number seven. I almost jumped the gun last podcast 145 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: with Xavier Worthy. I got him seven and Bucky. The 146 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: only thing that bothers me is I think, like DeShawn Jackson, 147 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: who is this comp I think he's gonna end up 148 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: being feaster famine from game to game. Like he's gonna 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: be a high yield wide receiver. He's gonna have some 150 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: long touchdowns. He's gonna have some games where he may 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: go for two hundred and twenty yards receiving it two 152 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: or three touchdowns. But I also think that, you know, 153 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: teams are going to have to, you know, give him 154 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: some cloud coverage, play over the top shade to him, 155 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: so he's not going to just be able to run 156 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: free down the field. Teams are going to be well 157 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: aware of his speed. The other thing is, I don't 158 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: think he's really a volume catch guy. He's one hundred 159 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: and sixty pounds somewhere in that neighborhood Won's sixty five, 160 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: So he's not a big guy. I don't think you 161 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: want to put him in harm's way over the middle 162 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: where he can get hit. So I'm not sure that 163 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: he I know that he'll have explosive games. I just 164 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: don't know that he'll I've left targets to really factor 165 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: into Rookie of the Year. 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah that's I mean, look, that's that's that's a big 167 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: part of because when you think about a Rookie of 168 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: the Year, particularly coming off of what the performance that 169 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua did and the fact that everyone coming into 170 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: the year they gonna want to give the award to 171 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: a quarterback because you have a quarterback heavy class. You 172 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 2: know that everyone is going to be looking at the numbers. 173 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: So the numbers that you're going to have to put 174 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: up to knock one of those guys off, it's gonna 175 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: have to be big and so worthy. He's going to 176 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: have to be a big play machine where he goes 177 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: over in my mind a thousand yards and has a 178 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: bunch of touchdowns to catch the attention in the eyes 179 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: of the voter, because right now they already had that 180 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: thing locked in. It says blankety blank quarterback blank, because 181 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: that's where it's going more than likely when it comes 182 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: to that award. 183 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that last year. You know he's 184 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to look at twelve hundred yards twelve 185 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: touchdowns to have a shot. Phoka Akua had one hundred 186 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: and five catches, fourteen hundred and eighty six yards and 187 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: six touchdowns and he couldn't beat c j Stroud now 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Strout had a good He had fourteen hundred and eighty 189 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: six yards and one hundred and five touchdowns. Had he 190 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: put up ten I mean one hundred five catches. Had 191 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: he put up ten or eleven touchdowns? I mean, man, 192 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: how close would that have been? Just just that's an 193 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: insane amount of production for a rookie wide receiver. And 194 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: he came from the fifth round. I mean, that's not 195 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: even who who does? I want to make sure he 196 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: was fifth round here, he came from the fifth round. 197 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: You you're no last year? Yeah, So that's that's special. 198 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: And but it would take that. I think it would 199 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: take that kind of year. And I I just don't 200 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: know that you're ever going to see Patrick Mahomes target 201 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty pound guy that much. I just 202 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to happen. But I think 203 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be. You know, the bigger question is 204 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: can he help the the Kansas City offense get back 205 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. And I think he's got a 206 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: chance to do that. I love what he brings to 207 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: the to the offense. I just think from a Rookie 208 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: of the year standpoint, maybe not as much now I 209 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: had number four JJ McCarthy, So I'm gonna bump him 210 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: out of there, and now we'll make it bo Nicks 211 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: number five and elite neighbors number four bow Knicks in 212 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: that offense. Can can he do enough to be Rookie 213 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: of the year? Is this going to be the Mac 214 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Jones type of game management into position to be a 215 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Rookie of the year. Can he be more explosive than 216 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Mac Jones offensively his rookie year? 217 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 218 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Look, here's the thing. He's off to a good start, 219 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: and I wondered if they had enough weapons firepower for 220 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: him to really be able to thrive and flourish in 221 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: this offense. But the way that it's looking in this 222 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: only preseason, the way that it's looking, Sean Payton is 223 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: going to put the onus on him to create opportunities 224 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: for bow Knicks to just manage the game, take the 225 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: easy completion and kind of get it done that way. 226 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: If he does that, like they have more than enough 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: in terms of their defense to win games. And if 228 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: bow Knicks is able to kind of kind of guide 229 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: this team into playoff contention, he's gonna get some consideration 230 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: because everyone is going to fall in love with the 231 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: story of the rookie player jumping in getting this team, 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: I would say, off the scrap heat and kind of 233 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: leading them into contention. This dude has some maturity and 234 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: some poison, some leadership about him that. 235 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: You can make him. 236 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: He's going to make you kind of fall in love 237 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: with him. Is just a matter of it would be 238 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: productive enough to kind of get into consideration to really 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: steal the award. 240 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you like more as a rookie Miliite 241 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Neighbors or Marvin Harrison. M the better quarterbacking appears to 242 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: be with Arizona if Kyler can stay on the field. 243 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm having a hard time figuring out 244 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: who I like more. When I wrote the article in 245 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: late June, I had it as Marvin Harrison. But the 246 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: more I've seen a Milite Neighbors, you know, I had 247 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: him as my number one player in the draft. Malik 248 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: is legit, and the question becomes, how do they get 249 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: them the. 250 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. The quarterback dick takes it. And 251 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: let's be honest, Kyler Murray is a better player than 252 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones right now. And that would leave me to 253 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: believe that Marvin Harrison June's you can get a ton 254 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: of ton of balls, and I could see him putting 255 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: up the kind of numbers that pookn Coup put up 256 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: as the number one receiver in that offense. Because he's 257 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: coming into an offense where he's gonna be the focal 258 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: point in the future guy in the passing game. That 259 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: means on the call cheat, the offensive coordinator has ten 260 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: to twelve calls that are designed just to get Marvin 261 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: Harrison the ball because he can dictate the coverage, he 262 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: can help kind of tilt the field in the offense's favor. Yeah, 263 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: I can see him having a more productive year the 264 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: elite neighbors and part of me laite neighbors issues would 265 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: be to the quarterback and they trust Daniel Jones to 266 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: throw it enough, Mark Well, elik neighbors can have a 267 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: big impact on the game. 268 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And that's gonna be the That's gonna be 269 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: the question with both those guys. I think they're immensely talented. 270 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: But Marvin to me, just simply has the better opportunity. 271 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna be he steps in as kind of and 272 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: he's very polished, so he's gonna step in I think 273 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: as the new DeAndre Hopkins for Kyler Murray. And I 274 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: think once Kyler has a guy that he loves, he's 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna pump them the ball. And I think 276 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is going to end up having a better 277 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: statistical year, but Malik Neighbors, if Daniel Jones can get 278 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: on the ball, has a chance to really make some noise. 279 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: I've got my top three I had ja I had 280 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels number three, Marvin Harrison number two, and Caleb 281 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Williams number one. Caleb Williams is almost a pick him. 282 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's gonna take a lot to 283 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: unsea Caleb Williams. I think it will have to be 284 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and the guy that makes the most sense, obviously, 285 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: I think would be Jaden Daniels, who can run and pass, 286 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: who can put up different kinds of touchdowns in different ways. 287 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I think it would have to be Jaden to unseat 288 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: to unsee Caleb Williams as the favorite. The problem is, 289 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Pols has done a good job of 290 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: building the talent around Caleb Williams to have him prepared 291 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to step in and put some numbers on the board 292 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: right away. 293 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be hard, man, because he's look, he's 294 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: the media dolling already. He's already teased us and given 295 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: us a little bit of what we wanted to see 296 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: from him, which was we wanted to see him kind 297 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: of show us that he has some of that Pat 298 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Mahomes like ability, and we've seen some of that stuff 299 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: in the preseason. That gives him a nice head start. 300 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: And this offense looks like it has the pieces to 301 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: be pretty good, so he doesn't have to be spectacular. 302 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: He just has to rely on the playmakers, and he 303 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: has I would say, experienced playmakers, which is key for 304 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: young quarterbacks. Dj Moore, Keenan, Allen Coka, mett Gerald Everett, 305 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: running back in DeAndre Swith. Yeah, you have another young 306 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: player in Roman Doonsday. But Roman Doonsay is just playing 307 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: a complimentary role. He doesn't need to be the lead 308 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: forcing that offense. To me, on paper, it just looks 309 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: too easy for Caleb Williams to be able to ring 310 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: up these numbers that are gonna be eye popping and 311 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: very similar to what CJ. Stroud had, but in a 312 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: different way. Because no one thought that c J. Stroud 313 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: was gonna put up these numbers. The expectation is that 314 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is going to put up numbers that are 315 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: comparable to us. 316 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: C J. 317 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Stroud put up. 318 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's I think it's gonna be so hard. 319 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Now defensively, I think the defensive rookie of the year. 320 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I wrote this article as well. You can find it 321 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: in dot com. My Oh dark horse, Yeah, give me 322 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: a dark horse, all right here we got I have 323 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: it and you're not gonna see him as a dark horse. 324 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: But I kind of did with Brian Thomas Junior. I 325 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: looked at BTJ and I said, man, Trevor, you've give him, 326 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Trevor all this money. You're gonna have to. We got 327 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: to have a toy here that's going to help him, 328 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, earn his money and show what he's capable 329 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: of doing. And you get someone who's bigger, faster, and 330 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: even more explosive. The elite neighbors who, in Malik is 331 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: great at all those elements. Brian Thomas Junior is actually bigger, faster, 332 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a more explosive athlete. He's seventeen touchdown catchers last year. 333 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: So when you look at Brian Bryan Thomas Junior there's 334 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: not really anything other than that dog mentality that Malik has. 335 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: I know Brian Thomas is a lot quieter. I think 336 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: when when you dig around and I like some of 337 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: the wide receiver pieces of Jacksonville, but I still don't 338 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: see like it would be Calvin Ridley one week and 339 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: then it would be oh, the slot receiver. 340 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Christen Kirk. 341 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian Kirk. He'll be Kirk one week, had the 342 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: big week, and then it'll be Calvin Ridley who had 343 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: the big week? And you couldn't they never locked in 344 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: with the number one Bucky. You've seen it. Can Brian 345 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Thomas Junior start to work his way into being a 346 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver number one type of player in year one? 347 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it'd be tough for him to be 348 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: a wide receiver one right away. But I will say 349 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: what he does is this this offense in Jacksonvithe works 350 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: inside out with Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram as the anchors. 351 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is another big play threat that he'll have 352 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: to share the marquee with when it comes to the 353 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: explosive place. That said, what you may see small number 354 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: of receptions, big number when it comes to yards per 355 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: catching touchdowns. Brian Thomas Junior is going to give them 356 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: something they haven't had, and I would say the Doug 357 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: Peterson era, which is a legitimate fuel stretcher. You don't 358 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: score seventeen touchdowns against sec comp petition and come to 359 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: the league and be a slouch. He is going to 360 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: give them that home run element that they needed. And 361 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: the fact that he's actually gonna play opposite or with 362 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis, two explosive players running down telling you it's 363 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: going to be like a fast break where Trevor Lawrence 364 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: is going to be able to pick and choose. And 365 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: the thing that Trevor Lawrence, because it's a natural lease been, 366 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: you got to kind of justify and validate why Trevor 367 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: Lawrence got the money that he got. So I think 368 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: you will see, intentional or unintentional. You will see the 369 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: ball go down the field more as they try and 370 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: kind of get some of that going and the offense 371 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: needs it. But I think it's just a natural thing. 372 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: When the quarterback gets paid, you do showcase him a 373 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: little bit. I think BTJ is gonna have a huge year. 374 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna have a bunch of explosive plays. I don't 375 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: know what the catch totals look like, but the explosives 376 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: are gonna be eye popping. 377 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I put him. As you know, the 378 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: more you talk about it, the more I think, Man, 379 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: I wonder if a dark horse and fantasy football should 380 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence from the standpoint of you've got a 381 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: guy who can work the middle in the seams and 382 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: outrun people in Evan Ingram, you got two vertical guys, 383 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: and BTJ, who can do more than just be a 384 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: vertical game, is more of a linear vertical player. And 385 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: then you got atn who can catch out of the 386 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: backfield as well, so you've actually got and then Christian Kurr. 387 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of different weapons over 388 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: there for a player, and as you mentioned, you got 389 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: to try to prove why it was that you gave 390 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: him that much money. But there's players over there now. 391 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: I know, and your people down there in Houston, and 392 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: got to stir it up now because everyone talking about CJ. 393 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: Stroud being the best in the division, and it's about 394 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. And then there's some love on the streets 395 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: for Will Levison lit old Trevor making all that money 396 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: got to showing through and so you got to poke 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: the bear a little bit. So it should be fun 398 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: to watch that play out because BTJ is really talented, 399 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: really fluid. He is someone that is certainly of interest 400 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: when we think about it. We're gonna take a break 401 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: right now, we'll come back on the other side. We're 402 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: gonna talk about these defensive Rookie the Year Kennedys all right, else, 403 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: So now we talked about the as everyone loves offense, 404 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: but give an old defensive back a little love. When 405 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: we talk about these defensive Rookie of the Year candidates, 406 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: who are you looking at? 407 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what. Let me start with the 408 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: guy that I think is one of the most interesting 409 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: long shots on the board, Peyton Wilson plus twenty six 410 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: hundred man Baldy got ahold of some of that Houston 411 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Texans Pittsburgh Steelers tape and started going to work on it. 412 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: And then I took his kid and went and watched 413 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: the game tape. I mean, let me tell you something, 414 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: whoa he was? You thought you were going to run 415 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: outside zone on Peyton Wilson. He up in everything is 416 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: a downhill shot. So he's fast and he plays downhill, 417 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: so he's meeting you at the line of scrimmage. If 418 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: there's one thing in studying this article that I've I've 419 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: done over the last few years i've studied the article. 420 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: I came up with a guy who was a long 421 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: shot who won a guy named Shaq Leonard Darius Lendard 422 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: back in the day. And it's because if you find 423 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: a linebacker who can fill up a lot of fill 424 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: up the stat sheet multiple categories, you can win this award. 425 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: And so the two guys that I thought were interesting 426 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: there were Edrin Cooper, who was a really really fast 427 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: playmaker who gets to play next to kway Walker in 428 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay, so you got him playing on third downs. 429 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: He's a great blitzer, so he can get you sacks, 430 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: he can cover man to man, he's got four low 431 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: four to four speed to fly around and make a 432 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: bunch of tackles. And then Peyton Wilson. Now Peyton Wilson 433 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: on the pecking order is not first I don't think 434 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: he's first team yet, but you can see like he's 435 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: good enough to be a starter. So those are two 436 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: guys to me that are kind of long shots on 437 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the board at linebacker, the position they play the opportunity 438 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: to rake up a bunch of to rack up a 439 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: bunch of stats in multiple categories, and then you know, 440 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: at linebacker you're flashy. Your category is not just tackles. 441 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean your category can be strip sacks, it can 442 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: be scoop and score fumbles. It can be an interception. 443 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways. It can be you 444 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: running sideline the sideline to smack somebody. There's a lot 445 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: of ways that you can pop and flash as a linebacker. 446 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pop and flash a few different ways. 447 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: I love him, man, He was one of my favorite 448 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: prospects in the draft. I just love the way he plays. 449 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: And I know people talked about the medical probably led 450 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: him to drop, but in terms of the position, he 451 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: plays the position like you should play it. 452 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: As a top pick. 453 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: He was a first round talent that fail the Pittsburgh 454 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: Steel His benefit from it. He's gonna make a lot 455 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: of plays. And you talked about Baldy showcasing those things. 456 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: I am not surprised when you guys talk about him 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: making plays from sideline to sideline, because that's what he 458 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: did in NC State and I were expect him do 459 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: it in the pros. 460 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a couple of guys who are different types 461 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: of playmakers at cornerback. I want to focus on number 462 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: six and number five. Six is Terry and Arnold was 463 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: plus one thousand. I mean it's ten to one, and 464 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: then you've got nine and a half to one with 465 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: quinnyon Mitchell. You know, I didn't realize just how bad 466 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: the Eagles secondary was until I really got into the numbers. 467 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: It was like, oh my gosh, terrible. I mean, they 468 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: don't take the ball away at all. They don't take 469 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: the ball away at all. And so if Mitchell can 470 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: come in and that defense gets a lot better, he's 471 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of the credit for it if 472 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: he plays good football. You don't usually you have to 473 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: have five interceptions or more to win Rookie of the 474 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Year defensively, but Sauce Gardner won defensive Rookie of the 475 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Year with I think three, so he showed that that's 476 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: not necessarily the case. So quinyon Mitchell and Terry and Arnold. 477 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: I think Terran Arnold was on another secondary that was 478 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: very up and down with the with the Lions. Arnold 479 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: is a guy who you're going to see talking before 480 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: games giving speech to see him on the sideline like 481 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: he's a boisterous, energetic, high character player that you're gonna 482 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: hear Detroit talking when you're watching games. You know they're 483 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna say, boy, this staff raved about Terry and Arnold, 484 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: what he brought to the room and his leadership on 485 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: the field. So we're gonna we're gonna get inundated with 486 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold's stories. But he can also play, like 487 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: he can really play. I don't know that he's as 488 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: polished from a cover standpoint as Quinya Mitchell. I think 489 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Mitchell has the traits are a little bit better, and 490 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: I think he's actually got the polish to play a 491 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: couple of different coverages. But those two guys, to me, Bucky, 492 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: I think have a chance. If we're talking about cornerbacks 493 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: winning the award, both of them have a shot there 494 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the middle of my my one 495 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: through ten list. 496 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like interesting, interesting players, and you just think about 497 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: like those guys having opportunities being given showcase opportunities. DB's like, 498 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: we you know, you just wonder because you talk about 499 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Salt Garden and your guy down in Htown, Dereck Stanley, 500 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: who has a lot of love, a lot of people 501 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: out there talking about him and those guys. Yeah, he 502 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: can go. Like you're looking to see which guys are 503 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: going to have an opportunity early to showcase those skills 504 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: as lockdown guys. It'll be interesting, man, because Arrion Arnold 505 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: is a guy who you know. It's funny because all 506 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: the dbs that when people talk about Quinna Mitchell, we 507 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: talked about Arnold, even kool Aid McKinstry, who was doing 508 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 2: a pretty good job early in his time at the Saints. Like, 509 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: there were some interesting DB's not the top ten guys 510 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: that you talked about, but we've seen, man, some of 511 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: these guys that weren't top ten, they end up being 512 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: much better players than many people envision. Right away. 513 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: Foltz Gott one of Mike Abram that's already making some noise. 514 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: But here's one for you as well. When's who's the 515 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: last defensive tackle who won defensive Rookie of the Year. 516 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't Rookie of the Year. The only one 517 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: I can think about the Aaron Donald and Brookie of 518 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: the Year defense. 519 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: That's the last one. Twenty fourteen. It's been a decade 520 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: since a defensive tackle run defense with one defensive players 521 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: a year. 522 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: Trying to bring it back. Try to bring it back. 523 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: Run Byron Murphy. Fourteen to one long shot? Can Byron Murphy? 524 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: Maybe Aaron Donald? Can he make that. 525 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Kind of noise over there for the Raiders? I mean 526 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Does he have that ability? They've already got 527 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: a good defensive line in Seattle. He's going to rotate in. 528 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: He's a guy that I think he can get to 529 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback more than he did to Texas. I think 530 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: he's got that ability. From a Runde standpoint, he's about 531 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: as clean as you're gonna get. Can Byron Murphy be 532 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: the disruptor? I think he's got a chance to really 533 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: become disruptive run and pass. So I put him as 534 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: my number four defensive Rookie of the Year Canada at 535 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: fourteen to one wo. 536 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: So here's why I'm with you on that pick. Justin 537 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Medaweeked playing for Mike McDonald exploded last year. So Mike 538 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: McDonald now gets a player who has that ability, but 539 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: he's surrounded with I would even say that, Let's be honest, 540 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens were kind of throwing the pieces together, 541 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: Calvin Noy Jadavian clowning those guys like, you have guys 542 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: in Seattle that are really solid players, Lennon Williams on 543 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: one side, Draymond Jones, you still have you got some 544 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: young young guys, boy Mafe. Byron Murphy's gonna have an 545 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to be put in that showcase spot to go 546 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: get it. And Mike McDonald does a really good job 547 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: of creating opportunities at the line of scrimmage through illusions 548 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: like the way they do simulated pressures in those things. 549 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Byron Murphy certainly could be one of those guys that 550 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 2: backs doors his way into an eight ten sacks season 551 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: because he's really explosive, he's really good with his hands, 552 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: and the scheme is going to really set him up 553 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: for some opportunities. 554 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. More importantly, he's got secondary motor, like his secondary rush, 555 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: because he's so explosive and short in short spaces and 556 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: his motor is NonStop. Once he gets off of a block, 557 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: he can get to your quarterback if your quarterback's holding 558 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: the ball a little too long in the NFL, which 559 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: more and more quarterbacks do. He's the type of guy 560 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: that can get there and finish so and you talked 561 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: about McDonald simulating pressure. That's one of the things he's 562 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: going to do is he wants to influence your protection. 563 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: And he's the one who is very, very involved in 564 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: drafting Byron Murphy, so he knows what Byron Murphy's capable of. 565 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: He's going to want to put him in those kinds 566 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: of opportunities. I think Biron Murphy to me, that's why 567 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I felt like four wasn't too high for him is 568 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I do think his sack total could be closer to 569 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: seven and a half to eight sacks. As TFLs are 570 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna be double digits. I think he's I think he's 571 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: gonna be. I think he's gonna be great NFL player. 572 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: You know how quickly does it manifest in statistics for 573 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: defensive rook of the year. I don't know. I do 574 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: think it's gonna manifest quickly. From my top two guys. 575 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: Number two, i've got Dallas Turner. Now, Bucky, you've seen 576 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: Dallas Turner this preseason. I think Dallas Turner with Brian Flores, 577 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: we talked about this a tremendous opportunity for him to 578 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: get isolated on one on ones, but he has rare 579 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: combination of length and explosive speed, and then that once 580 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: you get to the pros and once you tighten up 581 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: some of the hand usage, and you know, if he 582 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: gets with the right guy to teach him this move 583 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: or that move, he's got the tools and the traits 584 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: that we talked about to really take it to another level. 585 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: Yep, he does have that. And you want guys that 586 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: can go to another level. And one of the things 587 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: that we talked about is not to trace and the tools, 588 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: just the motor. The motor is what is key, and 589 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: that is a skill. And the great ones have that. 590 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: They have that third long they can play all day. 591 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: They go after the relentless in their approach. He has that. 592 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: He's got it. My number one guy is Jared Verse 593 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: and he's ten to one, so he's a long shot. 594 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: But you know what I remember over the years, the 595 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: one thing that I've learned from evaluating players is a 596 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of times I get too excited about the whirling dervishes, 597 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the spin move guys, and and the guys with the 598 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: fast get off and I mean, now everyone's while you 599 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: run into Michael Parsons, But I graded him as a 600 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: linebacker coming out, so I didn't even get that chance 601 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: to grade him as a rusher. But one thing that 602 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: plays in the NFL is power. If you've got the ability, 603 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: if you're rough if you're a roughneck, and that's what 604 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: we call him, matter of buck back in the days 605 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: with timber Lands in the nineties, rough neck. You got 606 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: to get a rough neck. You get a rough neck 607 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: who can run through players, who has that power to 608 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: get up under the pads and leverage. You know, people 609 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: talk about the spin move from New Hall of Famer 610 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: out of Indianapolis. People sleep on his on his bull rush, 611 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: like he could hit you with a speed to power 612 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: bull rush too, because he was he was compact but explosive. 613 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: So if you're sitting there playing passive as a pass 614 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: setter and you're waiting for him to hit a spin 615 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: move and then boom, he's right up the middle on you. 616 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: We'll be on skates and Jared Birsch can put guys 617 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: on skates and he is a run defender as well. 618 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: He can play you against the run at the point 619 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: of attack. He's got the power. I think there's still 620 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: some you know, some polish needed with his pass rush, 621 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: but power translates speed to power translates quickly. 622 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: In the NFL, it does translate quickly. And when you 623 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: have that, you talk about Jerry Birds being able to 624 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: have that and being able to learn one of those 625 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: patented moves, Like if you have one of those moves 626 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: that you can just pull out against anybody and it's unstoppable. Yeah, 627 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: it's a problem. And look, I will say it's funny 628 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: you bring up the white Friendy because I remember watching 629 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: him when he was coming out and thinking about some 630 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: of the awkwardness that he displayed as a rusher. The 631 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: man you talk about, a legendary pass rush who was 632 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: able to get it done and do it in his 633 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: own way. 634 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Why not? 635 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: Why can't Jered vers just come right in, step in 636 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: and attack and dominate from the time you step into 637 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: the thing. 638 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, their defensive coordinator has already talked about Young, 639 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: Byron Young, and he made a comment. I was reading 640 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: an article that he said, Jared Versus already bringing into 641 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: our team the juice, the energy, the leadership that we 642 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: were hoping from a very when we drafted Weed had 643 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: heard this is who he was. That's the vibe we got, 644 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: and when we brought him in, that's exactly as Ben. 645 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: He's helping Byron Young come out of his show a 646 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: little bit. So the Rams are really quietly excited about 647 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, Turner in the middle, and then Byron Young 648 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: on one side, and you've got Jared Versus on the 649 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: other side. That could be one of those defenses that 650 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: really is a swarm unit that's able to get out 651 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: of you like a they go pile. I don't know 652 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: if you ever have fire ants the buckie, like we 653 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: need them fire ants on you. Oh my god, it's 654 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: the worst. 655 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: You can't get rid of me. 656 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: They come back, They come back over and over. 657 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: Oh they never stopped Lance, They're always are coming like 658 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: they were relentless. They're relentless all the time. You So 659 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: I get that. Well, look man, this is this is 660 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: always fun. Is he anybody else? Anybody else you want 661 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: to throw into defensive rig. 662 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me throw in one more, my long shot. 663 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: There was a guy that I liked a lot, and 664 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: it's Tyler Nuban out of the Giants. Tyler Neuban. To me, 665 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: anytime you get a very heady safety who plays with 666 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: great instincts and anticipation and who has ball skills, immediately 667 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: you'd start thinking of like Eddie Jackson. You know those 668 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: guys who all of a sudden they start piling on 669 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: big plays. Oh, he's got Tyler Nuban already has seven 670 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: interceptions and we're in week fifteen and he has two 671 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: for touchdowns. All of a sudden, It's like, man, Tyler Nuban, 672 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: where did this come from? But he's a guy that 673 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: had When you we have ball production as a safety 674 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: throughout college, it's not an accident. That's a skill. You know, 675 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: it's not all just tip balls. A lot of times 676 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: you know where the ball's going. So if you play 677 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: with the anticipation and you've got ball skills, then you 678 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: got a chance to rake up the interceptions. And that's 679 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: one of those things you have to have if you're 680 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna win, if you're going to win Defensive Rookie of 681 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: the Year. The last rookie to win it at safety, 682 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: I think was Mark Carrier. So it's been a long 683 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: long time. 684 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: Long, long long time coming. That's interesting. Man, Like I 685 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: liked Alan Newban I loved him at Minnesota. Man his tape, 686 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: he was all over the place swiping balls in those things, 687 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: And you would like to. 688 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: Think with the Giants up front. 689 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: They have guys up front that can hunt Brian Burns, Dexter, 690 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Lawrence kvon Tiba though, like you have three guys that 691 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: are really effective. They're getting to the quarterback and if 692 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: they can rush for and play in covers like Shane 693 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: Bowne wants to do, this is going to be an 694 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: opportunity for him to get a bunch of tips and 695 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: intercept a bunch of interceptions off tips and overthrown balls. 696 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: Because the pressure up front, it's. 697 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: Right, that's right, and that's what you got to do. 698 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: That's what you gotta have. So those are some looks 699 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: on the offensive side and the defensive side at some 700 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: of the guys. And I'm really interested to watch your guy, 701 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Peyton Wilson. I think that he's one of those guys 702 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: that you know, for those people who are running to 703 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Vegas playing those little those those little plays. I'm like 704 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: those party Yeah, whoa, I'm looking at thirty to one 705 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: or whatever whatever he is, twenty eight to one. I'm 706 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: thinking that guy can end up making some noise. 707 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 2: He could make some noise with lands Man. This is fun, man, 708 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: It's always fun having you pop on. Love your insight, 709 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: love your perspective. 710 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: We donn have to do it again. 711 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: When DJ comes back, we have to bring you home 712 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: so we can have some more conversations, Like Mom. 713 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: All I'm doing is sitting here and breakfast tacos and 714 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: trying to win outside, so I got to do anything else. 715 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: Let's go come on, man age town, putting it down. 716 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: So guys, that's Moody six for today. Make sure you rate, review, subscribe, 717 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: keep tuning in, make sure you tell a friend to 718 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: tell a friend to come and join us until the 719 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: end of the week. I'm Bucky broke. There was land Syuh. 720 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: We'll see you again on mood six. 721 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: Hmm.