1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, we're back with the podcast. You got a special 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: guest Rashan Jennings, and we're gonna be in all types 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: of stuff in this episode. We're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: magic tricks, guitar, playing a near death swimming experience, and uh, 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: tackling your biggest fears. And I think his high school 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: story is gonna turn to a movie one day, so 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I stay tuned. Something that every player needs to think about. Uh, 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: something I definitely thought about. It's not a bad thing 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: to think about. It is the word transition and one 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: thing about life you gotta always be able to adapt. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: And somebody that I'm learning about it's a guest with 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: us today is I think someone who's transitioned really well. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: And I want to get his pick his brain about it. 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: But former number twenty three, he had the jersey before me. Um, 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to rep him well. But Rashan Jennings, Man, 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? What's happening? Man? I appreciate you having 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: me on. Yes, you you up in a well definitely. 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: So how how are the holidays for you? Because like 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: the holidays for me, it's crazy. It's always about around football, 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Like I've been playing football since I was six, and 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: Thanksgivings football and everyone's home on Thanksgiving and I'm normally 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: playing where I had practice that day. And Christmas for 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: me is my favorite holiday, and I've had practice on Christmas. 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: I've traveled on Christmas. So tell me, what do you 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: remember when you were playing with the holidays? Based on 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: now that you're done playing with the Holidays, how's it 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: changed for you? Big time difference, man. I remember, like 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: you said, when we play, when you're playing the game, 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: you gotta travel so much. You have to be able 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: to put your job first. And quite often I hated 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: like separating my family where you know, maybe my mom 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: and dad would want to come to whatever respective team 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I was with, but then the rest of the families 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: back at home. So I really just have all them there, 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I just be only one missed out. 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: So uh now I'm a little bit more laggical and 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: what I'm able to eat too around the dinner table. Yeah, 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I ain't gotta wake up in the morning and run 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: from oversized man. So it's definitely I've got back. I've 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to really catch up on all the 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: things that I've minist otia over the years and the 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: course of my career. You don't have to worry about them. 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: Friday ways, you know, uh Friday That that sneaky way 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: for a quick fine edge on the worst. Man, I 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: missed a couple along the way, but not too many. 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: Now have you played, because I haven't played. Have you 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: played that Thanksgiving game? Yes? A couple? Um, yeah, every 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: time I play on thans Giving games. It's just somewhere. 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: It goes on, even from college, like football it was 50 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: negative seven degrees college football, right, And then to get 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Every time I play Thanksgiving, one time 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I got a concussion. The next time I had a 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: crazy injury like some always happens on Thanksgiving. So I'm 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: glad like to sit back and watch and not be 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: out on the field worried if I'm gonna it hurt. 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Now I feel that's true. I mean college, I probably 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: had a couple. You know, the season ends and you're 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: in the league, and now we're playing seventeen games, and 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: like you see like college coaches dipping in other jobs 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: and their seasons done. You're like, man, we still got 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: six seven games to go. Like this is really when 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: you want to like start hitting your stride as a 63 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: player as as an organization. This is the time you 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: got making push high school. You're done, you're starting basketball college. 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna waiting for your bowl game, you know. And 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the NFL is such a longer season. Man, it's just 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: so different. I came explain it to people who don't know, 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: like how long this season has compared to what you're 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: used to come out of high school and college. Yeah, 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and then you got the mental aspect of that too, 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: along with the physical and like it's especially as a 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: young buck coming into the game. I mean, it's the worst. 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: First you think you I came in with attitude. I 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna get cut every day. Man, at 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: some point the grand Reaper was gonna come say, you 76 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: know what, I appreciate you as playbook. And so you 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: always on the edge. You always feel like you gotta 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: prove yourself. Um, and even as you get older, you 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: still you feel that's of it because you understand the 80 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: business a little bit more. You know, you don't get cut. 81 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: You can you can you can you can check it out, 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: you can, you can proceee it a little bit. There's 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: some surprise, but you kind of see how the roster's built. 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: You kind of know when you got security or don't. 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: But you're right, you gotta feel like you gotta prove 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: it every every year. I'm on a one year deal, 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: like seriously, because I'm like, all, I just signed this 88 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: new deal, but shoot, next year, you know, my guarantee 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: money's up. So I definitely gotta show you know, It's 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: like every year is a long year deal. So I 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit, you know, about your career. 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: You're in different spots. How I look at my career 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: as chapters, right, I wasn't. I'm in my third organization. 94 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm in my ninth year. I had four New England. 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: I came in and I was a pupil and I learned. 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I just took in so much's information. I learned how 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: to win. I learned how to the situational football of 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: the game. I learned the team element of the game. 99 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: Um all the team, the team, the team over there. 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: As you know, I really learned a lot in that chapter. 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: And then my next chapter free with the Tennessee and 102 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of blossom as a leader. 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I blossom as a as a guy got paid and 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: ranging see him and those pressures of having to perform 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: when you you know, when you're known, are supposed to 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: and then just signed with the Giants last year. And 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: this is kind of the chapter. I'm like the O 108 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: g like second oldest on the team. Guys are born 109 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: in the year two thousand, now, you know, just young, young, young, 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: younger league and you just kind of show them kind 111 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: of like the VET. I still got it, but I'm like, 112 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like the VET in a sense of 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: my experiences. These guys, some of them never been to 114 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: a playoff game. I was fortunate to be in some 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Some of them never played winning football consistently. 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: Someone are still trying to find a stride. So I 117 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: kind of have like these chapters that I you know, 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm a storytelling I kind of these chapters of my careers. 119 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Tell me about your career. How you look back at 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: it from from the back end? Go, yeah, sure, appreciate 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: that question too. I look at it as you know, 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: where I'm from. I'm from a little small town, Force, 123 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Virginia's is it's self explainat or Forced Virginia. I'm from 124 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the country. I grew up understanding the animals before people 125 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: with that in mind, I'm small town, right, and so 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: Jacksonville my first chapter to the NFL. It's is a 127 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: bigger place than where I'm from, a huge in comparison. Um, 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: you got the beach, you know. I'm not used to 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: all these opportunities. That's really out there from where I'm from. 130 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I went to Liberty University as well, which is ten 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: minutes from my house, so not that much exposure, you know. 132 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Then the next chapter, I went to the Oakland Raiders, 133 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: which is a bigger market. I lived in Alameda. I 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: could see how contrash from where I was living at 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Right there, I got a chance to go 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: to Facebook meets zuccab Like, it's bigger, right, I'm meeting 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: more people networking and the boom. I go to New York, 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: the mecca of everything. So I feel like I was 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: baby transitioned into um more life experiences, um, rather than 140 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: just coming from a low town to New York, you know. 141 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: And so I was prepped to appreciate it more, especially 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: as a veteran, understand how the NFL is very quick 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and short, and how to how to how to kind 144 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: of like set up yourself for after football. Um. So 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: that's really I'm thankful that my trim My chapters in 146 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're kind of on a roller coaster constantly 147 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: going up. Yeah, no doubt. Look, they sent me a brief, man, 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know you, know of you and who 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: you were, and I believe we played against each other 150 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of respect game plan against you. And 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: they sent me a quick little like bio resume, like here, 152 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: who's here, who, here's who's joined in, who we like, 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: and here's some stuff he did. You can hit on it. 154 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: You work with the you know, the Asthma Allergy Allergy 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Association of America. You won Dancing with the Stars, you 156 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: have a new gaming adventure, you have a young adult 157 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: book series, acting job, acting gigs like, Man, I mean 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't let the NFL ruin you do 159 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you transition quick? So when did you start working? When 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: did you start realizing like, yo, I have more talent 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: than just being a running back, and I want to 162 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: get paid for this one day and I want to 163 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: use my platform. When did that start fro you in 164 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the process? Man, wore the start that conversation. So I 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: kind of say, I honestly, I always felt that way 166 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: whether it was in a position of at the time 167 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: when I was young, cocky that I could do everything. 168 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: I had the ambitions to do everything, but I realistically 169 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: was not in a position to do nothing. Um. I 170 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: had a point six g p A. In high school. 171 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I was a fifth string running back, was overweight, chubby kid, 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, like it. I was not set to do 173 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: much right. And so there was a trigger where I 174 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: started taking ownership of responsibility in my life and I 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: put myself more in the drive the seat. And that 176 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me what. Yeah, that particular trigger, because 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: it was a couple, but this particular one, you know, 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. I make the story kind of quick though. 179 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: But was fifth string running back high school. We played 180 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: against a high school rival, um, last game of the season. 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: I never played one staff of high school football at 182 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: this point, bro. So this is kind of like our 183 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl. If they beat us, they go to the 184 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: they go to the playoffs. If we beat them, they're out. 185 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: So it's like we gotta beat them. So when I 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: tell you I never played so much the top pass 187 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: and you need pass and the hit paths. I used 188 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: to take them out before every game and stuck it 189 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: with feminem's you know, sprite can't like. I was set 190 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: up for the front row ticket to watch the game. 191 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Me and my buddy's name was Speedy. He never earned 192 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: his name at all. He was terrible, but um so 193 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: we was on the sideline. Quick story man. First string 194 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: goes out, he gets hurt, and there was a Tennessee 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Scott to come watch him because he was really good. 196 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Spencer Freeman's baller. First string got hurt, he comes out, 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: Second string goes goes in, he gets hurt. Third string 198 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: go and he gets hurt. All this in the first quarter. 199 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: Fourth string goes in. This guy gets hurt. First quarter. 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: I can't make none of this stuff up. So I'm 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: sitting on the sideline like you know, I'm fit right, 202 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm fifth only because we got four running backs. That's 203 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, they just gave me a number. Just shut 204 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: up and get up my face. So coach Skins Scott sidelines. 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: He gets a wide receiver and throws him in instead 206 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: of me. He goes in, he gets hurt. Can't make 207 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: it up, bro, So they have no choice but to 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: put me in. I go out there. I'm scrammed up 209 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: on a random helmet. I don't even know where I 210 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: put mine. It's you know, dirty mouthpiece. I don't know 211 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: whose it is. A rip it out. I got like 212 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: residue and we got white pants so you can see 213 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: eminem's three s all over my pants and stuff. You're 214 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: not going in the pants. Yeah, and uh, you know, 215 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the teammates like the shout, what's you doing? I'm like 216 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: everybody hurt. We gotta go baby. First play, it was 217 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: just a counter. I get the ball, dirty yard touched down. 218 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: I come back to the sideline. I'm crunk, I'm damp. 219 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: You can't tell me nothing right. I chest about my boy. 220 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: He falls like it's a moment, and uh, you know, 221 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: they decided to put me in. Later on in the game, 222 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: I score another touchdown a similar situational defense. Guys kept 223 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: getting hurt left and right. Uh, they put me in 224 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: my first playing defense. Sacked the quarterback, he fumbles to 225 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: pick it up. Nobody's in front of me. Thirty y'all. 226 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Touchdown and it's fourth quarter. They got one minute, they 227 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: got the ball. They gotta do is run the clock out. Um. 228 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were thinking, but they came 229 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: out run the ball. We we we shut him down 230 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: running ball, shut him down. We called time out again, 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: keep calling time out, third down, and it's about like 232 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: five and it's thirty seconds left. All I got to 233 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: do his room. One more play and kind of take 234 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: it home. I don't know why they decided to run 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: the screen. I'm playing defense in I sniffed the screen out, 236 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: he throws it, I intercepted, taking in for a touchdown. 237 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: We went and walk off right first time I ever 238 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: played high school football. Four touchdowns sewing office, two in defense. 239 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: The Tennessee scout became and saw that started running back, 240 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: saw me, and he came on to me and he says, son, 241 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: you got potential. How your grades? And I told him 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I had a point six and he said, you got potential, 243 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: get your grades right now for the first time. Run. 244 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: That's the That's the first time anybody ever told me 245 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: you got potential. Not believe in you outside of my 246 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: family and my parents. But that goes one the other. 247 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: And so I transferred high schools. I repeated my junior year, repeated. 248 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I took all my home school classes, summer school classes 249 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: on top of the regular academics, and I never turned 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: that attitude around it When opportunity presents itself too late 251 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: to prepare. So you gotta get a movie deal after this, 252 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: because that story is crazy, bro. It's just never I 253 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: mean I've seen something. I've seen some kids in high 254 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: school had no business playing ball with polos under their uniform. 255 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: You know. I see some kids with some you know, 256 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: capri stawing over the pants, but I never seen no, 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: no eminem's in the sprite in the game pants. That's 258 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: the first. Bro, That's an absolute first. And I didn't 259 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: get you stay with the story of I get what 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: you're saying with the story because I couldn't be any different. Man, 261 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Like when I touched the rock as a kid, I 262 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: was a baller quarterback since growing up, I was going 263 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: crazy four or five touchdowns of the game. And I 264 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: had a coach tell me when I was nine ten 265 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: years old at the game, I see the NFL one day. 266 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: So that potential, when someone sees that potential, man, that's 267 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: that's what it. That can go along with it For 268 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: you to tell that story now after everything you accomplished, 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that game was crazy before that one coach 270 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: and say that to you at scout um. It's a 271 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: true thing. With that positive that manifestation that positivity can 272 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: do for somebody. Absolutely, man, absolutely, and I carried that 273 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: with me today. And that's why I utilized my platform, 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure as well as you do. You know, quite 275 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: off to tell people, it's not too much special about me. 276 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: It is more so that I'm in a special position. 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: And so if I could utilize that to be a 278 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: magnifying glass towards things I believe in and being a 279 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: voice for it, I want to do that. So you'd 280 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: be surprised, just an encouraging word where it can how 281 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: that resonates with that individual and they hold on to 282 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: that moment for life. So so tell me, you know. 283 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: And when I came, when I came to New York Giants, 284 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: it was it was strategic. It was a place where 285 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: I was able to choose my place a little bit, 286 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: choose my spot over some other teams. And I knew, 287 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I knew the platform I could do so much for me. 288 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I knew it was a pressure cooker, and I wanted that. 289 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I thought that opportunity was great. I thought the opportunity 290 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: to I was doing a lot of things, and I 291 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: was doing a ton of things that the Animal Foundation, 292 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: I started a police reformed company with my father. UM. 293 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I had a radio show going on. UM. I was 294 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: playing really at a high level, but I was in 295 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee and the market was so small, and I had 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: to almost self promote myself so much, like on this 297 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: and on that, I got this and I didn't. I'm 298 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: not like it. I don't like being a self promoting 299 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: hype man. I don't listen to the podcast when I'm 300 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: done on I haven't. I mean, I think they're great. 301 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't even listen to him. I don't watch my interviews. 302 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I get awkward watching myself talk. I wish I would 303 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: have said that it is sometimes I only like watch 304 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: myself one film. You know. I had that embarrassment. But 305 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm ready from for New York. 306 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm from New Jersey. Originally I knew what it was 307 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: like growing up here on the NFC East is the 308 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: greatest division of playing, as you know, the tradition of 309 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: the fan basis. So tell me what New York did 310 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: for you and how you use New York to your advantage. Yeah, absolutely, man. 311 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: And similarly, when I looked at the options, you know, 312 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I started thinking about big picture, and I knew that 313 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the magna fund glass of New York would allow, and 314 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the mecca of it, the echalon of it, um, the 315 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: history of it, the trajectory of it. Anything you say 316 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: cannon will be held against you, good or bad. That 317 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: if if if, if, if I'm giving a megaphone, I 318 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: can speak what I choose. So that's kind of how 319 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I saw the opportunity of New York. Also, you know, 320 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: to get a chance to play under some leadership Tom 321 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Coughlin at the time, and like so it was played 322 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: with ELI and so it was real procedures for myself 323 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: and I fit. I fit that, I fit the mold 324 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: of what they were trying to accomplish at the time. 325 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved every minute there. I loved 326 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: every second. Fan base people um, the networking ability UM. 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: And I really honestly think that that, you know, especially 328 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: at that particular time of my career, kind of I 329 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: became a giant, truly, like from the staple of you know, 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: how you carry yourself, how you how you present yourself, 331 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: what you're about, what you're stand for. But how I 332 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: used it was playing ball, baby, you know how that go. 333 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: It's it's cold like that ball and you know, it's uh, 334 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: it's fun though, like it's it's such a good time 335 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: to play in New York when you win. It especially 336 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: sure for me again you know with ESPN with uh, 337 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, writing books and getting into carts, tunes and um, 338 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: all the things that I really dabbling. Man. That was 339 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: one thing did in the NFL. While I played every 340 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: single all season, I picked up a new art and craft. 341 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: The first off season I picked up a guitar until 342 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: I learned how to play right. And then the next 343 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: off season I pick up magic tricks. So the whole 344 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: off season I study how to do magic tricks a 345 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: low straining from am to one pm all day. And 346 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: then the next off season I picked up archery, Olympic style, fencing, um, 347 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: all these things. And you know it's ironic. I danced 348 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: What the Stars Happened because I think that happened because of, 349 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, in part being in New York. UM. One 350 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: particular day, I was walking down Manhattan and TMZ pulled 351 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: up on me for no reason with the camera and 352 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I had my headphones on, just kind of doing one 353 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: of these things, and he was like, every set, looks 354 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: like you got some great dance moves. Look you ever 355 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: thought about doing dance, but the stars and the cameras 356 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: on me, I'm just like, yeah, sounds great. I never 357 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: even knew what dancing what the stars was at that time. 358 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: I just said right, and um, somehow they got wave 359 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: of that, and the next year a couple other relationships 360 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: happened to make it make sense. So you know, I'm like, 361 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: only in New York. That's the reason I've always found myself. 362 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: New York has been able to put my little name 363 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: beside major names when it's probably ship That's like, it 364 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: seems to me like you just if you, like you said, 365 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: picking up a craft and and and and learning something new, 366 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: you have a learner's mentality, beginner's mentality. Where does that? 367 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Where does that courage come from? Because dancing with the 368 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: stars out of our norm Like, I don't know if 369 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready for dancing stars yet. I've done some dancing 370 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: for my game. I've done something this for my game, 371 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: like I've tried to I try to do some stuff 372 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: to utilize my game. I didn't do magic tricks and 373 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: archery or anything like that. You're trying to actually learn 374 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: something new, but that takes so much courage. Were you 375 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: ever afraid like a failure. How do you how do 376 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: you overcome that fear of failure or something new? I 377 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: love truly being a novice in the room. It's intrinsic 378 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: to me. I'm I'm drawn to setting in an arena 379 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: on a room from the most unaware of person when 380 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: it comes to the subject at hand or the talent 381 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: that should be exposed. Because the type of attitude I 382 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: have is I'm not gonna be that for long. Puts 383 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: me in a position of humility. It puts me in 384 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: a position of hearing it like it puts it puts 385 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: you back to an elementary route of let me absorb information. 386 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: So like when it came to dancing, I ain't gonna 387 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: lie to you, bro, I signed up because I didn't 388 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: know what I was signing up for. I'm gonna just 389 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: keeping abut like I said, I've never seen the show 390 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: prior to going on. So this is how it even happened. 391 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: So that off season, I'm I'm shilling down and fought 392 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: out of their FLOORID I trained people arena and and 393 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: and every single off season eight to one pm, and 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: I go into one of my friends house. It was 395 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: a big shin dig I had a party watch the TV, 396 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: eating and having a good time, and a commercial ca 397 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and more. And the commercial came onto where these people 398 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: were dancing. It looked really good, like you want the 399 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: regular like normal club dance and hip hop or nothing. 400 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: They looked real smooth, and I was like, yo, what 401 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: in the world that they doing? I want to learn that, right, 402 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: And one of my friends, she happened to know what 403 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: kind of dance they were doing, so she said, oh, 404 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I didn't do on the child shot. I said, what 405 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: the heck is a child shot? She said, oh, this 406 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: ballroom dancing, And what the heck is ballroom dancing? Right? 407 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: I know nothing of this, So I got the bright 408 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: out there. You know what, I'm gonna learn how the 409 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: ballroom dance this all season. Sure enough, the very next day, 410 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: right after the workout session, I walked into a ballroom 411 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: studio and I go in there with a tank top one. 412 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't know the coach, I don't know anything. Right, 413 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: opened the door, Dan, everybody's like this all grateful, quiet, fatigue, 414 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: and you know, you got this big burley dude coming there. 415 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know how to ask properly. She said, 416 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: she said, can we help you. I said, yeah, I'm looking. 417 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the child shot like as a person, right, 418 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: And so she was like, sir, you're trying to learn 419 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: how to dance and the chot cha. I said yes, ma'am, 420 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: and she pulled me over theside. She said, well, we 421 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: don't have any availability into two weeks from the day. 422 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: That was like no problem at all. She said, you 423 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: want public or private lessons? I said, definitely private. I 424 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: don't want about saying this. I said, okay, I'll be 425 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: back in two weeks a week from that day. Theydn't 426 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: need to get to two weeks a week from that 427 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: day dance with the Stars calling it happened. So my 428 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: very first lesson ever was actually on the show, and 429 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: I and our very first dance was a child chot 430 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: So my head is very serendifferent and something like, you know, 431 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: guy just kind of looked out. I was like, hey, 432 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: I got something real special for you. Want to learn 433 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the chatti luck? A week after week after week, man, 434 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: I was just learning new dances and new arts, and 435 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: I really really really became intrigued by for two fold one. 436 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a hope for romantic man. Truly, I 437 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: actually I am in currently um getting my masters and 438 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: uh marriage canceling. I went to school psychology and sociology. 439 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I have an aspiration to be a marriage cancelor down 440 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: the road. I feel like that's the most beautiful article 441 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: of clothing you can wear his love. And I'm philanthropically driven. 442 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Most communities that I go in that are broken typically 443 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: have broken homes and broken marriages. And most communities that 444 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: go in that are healthy. When I go to these 445 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: schools and stuff, they have healthy marriages. So there's something there. 446 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: All in all, man dancing with just started going back 447 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: to like that fear of going into the unknown. I 448 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: actually looked forward. Um, as long as it's not swimming, 449 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I ain't doing because I can't 450 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: do I can't figure that without But anything else in life, man, 451 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: I love being a novice in the room. Appreciate appreciating that, 452 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: that that feeling that beginning. I mean, what we learned 453 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: a sports relates to so much in life, like stuff 454 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: that I learned from Kobe Bryant, Like all right, beginner's mentality. 455 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I'm take a notebook out at every meeting. Like Peyton 456 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Manning said that he had a pen and paper out 457 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: every meeting. He was five minutes alo, and he watched 458 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: practice film after every practice before they walked, before they 459 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: went over it. You know what I'm saying, And that 460 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: preparation for everything. I mean, you're you're eight, you know, 461 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: you're like bro, I don't want to take notes today, 462 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: like I got. It's the same install But that leads 463 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to off the field, that leads to business, that leads 464 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: to this at least to that that beginner's mentality is 465 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. M H. And so also habits man, 466 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: that's saying that create your habits, and then your habits 467 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: create you for six days for a new habit. But 468 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my story about swimming, man, I'll tell 469 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you my story about swimming so I can swim. I'm 470 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: in Hawaii this off season with my wife. I'm going 471 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: to a wedding. I'm going to a friend's wedding. And 472 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: there's this little cove and this cove um, I would 473 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: wake up six am every day and I'll look out 474 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: my balcony and had this had a beach and it 475 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: was really calm water. And I mean, it's Hawaii is beautiful. 476 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: My favorite players almost ever been And I saw people 477 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: swimming across, said every single day. I don't know how 478 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: deep this is in the middle, but it's probably like 479 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: two hundred yards swim. I never swim three hundred yards. 480 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I could swim like you know whatever. Wednesday, 481 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I gotta swim that before I 482 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: go like, I gotta just accomplish it, like I gotta 483 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: swim across. I see older people, I see women, I 484 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: see kids doing it. I'm like, man, I gotta do it. 485 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: My wife goes out for a night swim one night 486 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: and she does it. She she does after like after 487 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: the wedding, a couple of drinks in she knocks it out. 488 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm the last one left. I'm 489 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: like the last one this winning. I'm like, I gotta 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: hit it. So so bohm. I swim out there and 491 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm just head down, like just you know, focus on 492 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: stoking time, like head down and I look up and 493 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm dead center of it. Bro. If I go left, 494 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: it's equal distance for me going backwards. I go inland forward. 495 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I am the dead apex center. Bro. It is like deep, 496 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: like it ain't no you can bounce up. I am 497 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: dead in the middle. Bro, And there's a boat coming 498 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: in and out that people are going to go like 499 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: um snorkeling or whatever. And a boat's coming and it's 500 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: honking at me to get out the way. So I'm 501 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: dead center. I need a break. I'm rest, I'm treading water, 502 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: but I'm fighting the boats coming. I float back and 503 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: a boat's waves kind of pushes me back, and I'm panic. 504 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, dude, I'm not gonna die in front 505 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: of like little kids at a nice holiday resort like 506 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. So I'm like, I like, I bang a left. 507 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm I can't make it. I can't make it. And 508 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: I start like fighting and I'm not I'm not talking 509 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: about no nice swimming no more. I'm talking about survival swimming. 510 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: And I started going under the water and try to 511 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: swim under the water because I just can't keep my 512 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: head above. And I somehow, Bro, I swear like fault 513 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: fault from my life, got to the end of this, 514 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: got back to the beach, crawled in army, crawled and 515 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: just laid on my back and like a kid's making 516 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: a sand castle. And I almost died. And I I'm like, bro, 517 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: my ambition almost killed me. And I walked back to 518 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: my wife and she didn't even see it, Bro, like 519 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: it was in front of anybody. And I walked and 520 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: she said, how was it? He didn't see my almost 521 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: died and sheeting off for real and I was like, yeah, Yo. 522 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Ever since that moment, dude, I had a shorter breath. 523 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: I had to go to breath work after that because 524 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: that that moment brought me anxiety to this day. And 525 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: I told my wife, you know, I want to take 526 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: swimming classes because I want to go back to the 527 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: line and do that swim. I have to. I have 528 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: to tackle you, Bro, I have to. So if I 529 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: ever I tell you, I have to tell you this. 530 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: If I ever see you mean you're gonna go for 531 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: a swim, Dude, We're gonna do it. We gotta tackle 532 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: that fear man. I gotta go get it. Bro. Couldn't 533 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: mess me up. And I'd be in the game sometimes 534 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: doing that breath like, Yo, why am I breathing like this? 535 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: I never breathed like this during the game. I'm chilled 536 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: during the game. But I felt like I had that anxiety, bro, 537 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: because it was a real near death experience and that trauma. 538 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I really had to do some work in meditation and 539 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: therapy to like let it go. You know what I'm saying. 540 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: My breath became shorter because of it. Man, that's crazy. Bro, Hey, 541 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: that's a crazy story man. The fact that you you 542 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: want to go right back out there. You know what, 543 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: that's the side I'm gonna tell you, right, you know 544 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the side. That's a side of a couple of things, 545 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: but one of them that proves an athlete. I had 546 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: this conversation with somebody about They were like, how do 547 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: you define an athlete when when when they get hurt, 548 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: break something, almost die and the first thing they think 549 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: about when they come to is how do I get 550 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: back in the position to do that again? Yeah? Yeah, 551 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: yeah bro? Literally deep And now I know when they 552 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: say in boxing, take take them a deep water, take 553 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: them to take them to the tenth round, taking a 554 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: deep water and drive. I got the deep water, bro, 555 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: And I didn't trust myself. I could have made it across. 556 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: What my whole point was. It took me justice farnest 557 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: swim back, but I panic. I lost myself, I lost 558 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: my breath, I got outside of my body and I feared. 559 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: I feared for my life for real, and I could 560 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: have finished it. My wife was like, you were dead 561 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: middle you probably just could have swim across and finished. 562 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: But I got my head about it. So me, I 563 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: gotta do the training. I gotta go tackle it because 564 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: it's just a fear I don't want to live with 565 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. And I gotta go. 566 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: I gotta go tackle it. I gotta go tackle things 567 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm not good at because it's gonna give me that 568 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: much more freedom. I don't want to be tied to 569 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: my fears in this life. Man. I was. I've accomplished 570 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: way more than I ever thought. I accomplished absolutely, man. 571 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: And you really gotta do it too, because that's gonna help. 572 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Patt a really amazing story in an illustration 573 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: for you, so of of being centered of of an ocean, 574 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: all right, center of a choice, you know, center of 575 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: anything where it takes just as much effort to turn 576 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: around as it does apply off through that that I 577 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: think like psychologically, you know, you know you talk about trauma. 578 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: What's the opposite of trauma? Right, That's gonna get you 579 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: so much more belief you know, and and things that 580 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: you already know. Right. Uh, So I can't wait yeah, 581 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear you know when you actually 582 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: do cross, we might have to uh me and you 583 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: might have to go do it together man, and go 584 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: film it just for the record. You know you said 585 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: we could go and film it. I'll be the first one. 586 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: I will film it on the boat while you swimming 587 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: to pull me out, me out man, Hey, man, I 588 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't grew up swimming like that. I was in a 589 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: four foot pool. So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do 590 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: the training. I'm a tackling for conditioning and uh I'm 591 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna get better at him, and I'm gonna work on it, 592 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you one day 593 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and tell you that I did it. Man, that's gonna be. 594 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: This's a cool thing off my list of something to accomplish, 595 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, for Shure, for shore and people. When I 596 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: go in the locker room, I'm like and I tell people, 597 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, why don't you just go get it? 598 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: Like what you're talking about? I'm like, what you want? 599 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Why don't you go get it? And they're like, well, 600 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: where is it at? And I said, right right up, 601 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: right up on the other side of the mountain, like 602 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: you don't realize how close you are sometimes, bro go 603 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: get it like you can get what you want in life. Man, 604 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: you gotta believe it, and you gotta go do it. 605 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: And when it gets the hardest and it gets bleak, 606 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: and it gets dark and it gets cold and you're 607 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: in dead middle of the water, you gotta that's when 608 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: you gotta trust in yourself to go push that much 609 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: further because it's right over right over top of that 610 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: mountain top. Absolutely, man, you got a lot of great stuff. 611 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: I think me and you can can chat for a while. 612 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: But look your work with the Asthma Allergy Association of America, Man, 613 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: tell me about that. Tell me about those kids, and 614 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: and and kind of kind of your calls, and I'm 615 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: sure it's close to you. Yeah, man, so um. I 616 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: had asthma when I was younger, big time. I actually 617 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: was hospitalized because of asthma when I was thirteen. My 618 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: father used to drink and smoke heavily all the time. 619 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest, three, I'm not the baby, just the youngest. 620 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: We had a baby. It's not me. My dad was 621 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: in the Air Force. He went through a real dark time. 622 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: You know. It was a point where he just turned 623 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: the drinking and smoking. So I grew up with that father. 624 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: He was always there, just always drinking and smoking. He 625 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: never really added too much values to the conversation, never 626 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: really talked to me about any depth of birds and 627 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: the bees, throwing the ball with me, catch take me 628 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: out like it was. That just never existed. And the 629 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: smoking is one of the things that triggered my asthma. 630 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: It was one particular time most hospitalized and I was 631 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: on you know, hooked up to tubes and things blowing 632 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: through a peak floor. It's only going a centimeter and 633 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm fighting and scrapping for my life, my breath much 634 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: less what I accomplished too much in life. And the 635 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: doctors came in and they sat out with my family 636 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: and myself and talked to the severe any of it. 637 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: Doctor told my father, Hey, it will behoove you to 638 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: quit smoking around your son is triggering his asthma. And 639 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: I come home and my dad starts smoking outside and 640 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: things were okay until about two weeks later He's tripled 641 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: his way back in the house. So he's smoking back 642 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: in the house and I'm downstairs and I could smell 643 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: the smoke seeming through the vent. I started to choke 644 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: up because of it, and I knew my dad just 645 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: saw how I was pretty much on my deathbed. So 646 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm like bothered by that too, that he's smoking in 647 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: the house and put a pill over my face. I'll 648 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: go upstairs knock on his door. His doors closed like 649 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: it always is. He doesn't answer that. I opened the door. 650 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: He's in the corner, drinking and smoking like he always does, 651 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: and you know, thirteen years old, these big red rimmed glasses. 652 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: I pulled a pill off my face and I said, hey, Dad, 653 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: can you stop drinking and smoking to be there for me? 654 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: And he took a puff of his smoke, sip of 655 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: his drink. He looked dead at me. He said, what 656 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: you wanna do when you get older? And uh, this 657 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: is the first time my dad ever asked me that. Right, 658 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: So I'm happy because they're like, get to have this conversation. 659 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: The other half. I can see how it's just arrogantly 660 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: on his face. So I still take my chance and 661 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: I tell him, I said, Dad, I want to play 662 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: running back in the NFL. And he took him puff 663 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: up with smoke, sip of his drink, and he said, 664 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: do you think you'd be able to make it to 665 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the league without drinking and smoking your damn self. Kind 666 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: of like, who are you to ask me and my 667 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: own home not to And I looked down with tears 668 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: of my eyes and I said, Dad, just to prove 669 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm never gonna do it. And today I'm 670 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: thirty six, I'll never drink. I call damn my life. 671 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: Never smoked, damn my life, not against it, um, I 672 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: just it was just to prove him wrong, right, And 673 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: it's UH. Through that relationship, he watched his little knucklehead 674 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: care prove wrong here and I'm quit drinking and smoking himself. 675 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: We salvaged an amazing relationship and was always chasing his 676 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: love and I finally got it towards an end. But 677 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: I say that to talk about like asthma to me, 678 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: um asthma, I think kind of saved my life because 679 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: I had to focus on breath and had to focus 680 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: on eating right, and had to focus on all these 681 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: things uh to that ended up and enabling me to 682 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: be very successful with something else. You know, I do 683 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of work with UH asthma and also diabetes association, 684 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: because you know those are those are some conversations especially 685 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: in African American communities, has not talked about enough and 686 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: so I like to, you know, be a voice in 687 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: having those conversations. And I do stuff every single all 688 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: season with asthma and diabetes Association of getting screwed, people screened, 689 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: getting the magicated, along with Penny literacy and a lot 690 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: of stuff to do with the foundation. Now, man, you're 691 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: a great role model, um to teach the athletes people transition, Man, transition, 692 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: what's next? Let's come and you gotta keep adapting, keep 693 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: pushing yourself. And I'm not the editor producer of this podcast, 694 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: but this episode is gonna be called why not you 695 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: whyy not? You know? Why not put yourself in those positions? 696 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: What's the worst thing can happen? So I appreciate it, dude. 697 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, I had a couple of questions, but 698 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: we went off topic into some real life stuff that 699 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: I think. Um, I'm happy it came out, man, So 700 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity to get the interview. You get 701 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: to know you all good man. So I appreciate you. Dog, 702 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: appreciate your dope, my favorite one yet man, super super 703 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: intriguing dude. And you definitely you definitely taught me to 704 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: go chase some things, and go tackle some things I'm 705 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: not good at, and learn some new stuff. Thanks for 706 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: joining us from the NFL Players Podcast. 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