Speaker 1: What's that at the back bed. It's spooky. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming that way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, i'stead.
Speaker 1: Hiras dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: listener phone Call Extravaganza. Maybe my favorite week of the
Speaker 1: entire month. I am so grateful for all of you
Speaker 1: that listened to this show, and I would love for
Speaker 1: you to be on an upcoming listener phone Call Extravaganza.
Speaker 1: So of course, send me an email at ghosted by
Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com and just put in the
Speaker 1: subject line listener episode and just give me like a
Speaker 1: brief little thing like, oh, Roz, this is what's going
Speaker 1: to be, like, I've got this, I got that story,
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. You don't have to write
Speaker 1: the whole thing out, Just you know, give me an idea,
Speaker 1: and yeah, maybe we can work it out and you
Speaker 1: can be on a listener episode soon, guys. I h
Speaker 1: And one thing I wanted to bring up. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's it's been a while since I've talked about this,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of a topic that I'm it's very personal,
Speaker 1: but I'm also just always trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on. But basically I wanted to address like my
Speaker 1: pronouns because you know, it's wonderful. We all we all
Speaker 1: talk about this kind of stuff all the time now
Speaker 1: and I love that. And sometimes people call me he
Speaker 1: when they're referring to me on this podcast, and you know,
Speaker 1: I get it, like you guys don't know me very
Speaker 1: well other than me just being someone that talks about ghosts.
Speaker 1: But I actually prefer she her or they them, not
Speaker 1: so much he, but yeah, I would prefer like she
Speaker 1: heard they then just say, you know, the more you know.
Speaker 1: If you are on Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash erosdres false,
Speaker 1: I have a video this week. It's just me kind
Speaker 1: of reminiscing telling a story or two about what it
Speaker 1: was like when I used to do shows at the
Speaker 1: Cavern Club at Casita del Campo where I used to
Speaker 1: do live shows, and of course it's a venue that
Speaker 1: comes up all the time on this podcast because it's
Speaker 1: my favorite place in Los Angeles, and so I just
Speaker 1: kind of tell stories about other shows that I've done
Speaker 1: there and like these campy you know, Golden Girls Live
Speaker 1: and all those fun shows that I've done there. So
Speaker 1: I talk about that in a little video, and we've
Speaker 1: got a bonus clip, of course from this week's episode.
Speaker 1: I've got Kyle talking about a premonition story that took
Speaker 1: place in their family, and I also tell a story
Speaker 1: about kind of a sort of like a premonish. I
Speaker 1: don't really know what you call this kind of a thing,
Speaker 1: but an event that happened with me that I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever told on this podcast. But it's another
Speaker 1: personal thing. I'm getting personal over here. It's time for
Speaker 1: me to get real.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: It's it's a story that happens to me when when
Speaker 1: a loved one passed. And so I'm sharing that on
Speaker 1: Patreon this week as well on my second tier, so
Speaker 1: that is Patreon dot com, slash raz dresplees and uh,
Speaker 1: it is time to hear some listener stories. It is
Speaker 1: an action packed episode, so let's kick it off. Here
Speaker 1: is Natalie on with the show. Hello Natalie and Washington
Speaker 1: d C. How are you hi, Roz, I'm good. How
Speaker 1: are you so good? I was looking at the email
Speaker 1: you sent me. Wait, no, this is true. You had
Speaker 1: a ghost story that was inspired by this podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, I had a ghost story happened like while I
Speaker 2: was listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Okay, I keep hearing that it's so weird. The past
Speaker 1: like a year or so, I have heard this kind
Speaker 1: of a thing, and I don't want it to make
Speaker 1: people scared to stop, want them to stop listening because
Speaker 1: they're afraid that they're going to get visited by a ghost.
Speaker 1: But it seems like it happens a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it makes sense, you know, when you're
Speaker 2: like in it. Like I think they can see that,
Speaker 2: and so they want to say.
Speaker 1: Hi, yeah, They're like you're talking about us, what's going
Speaker 1: on here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, so what happened?
Speaker 2: So just for background, like my whole life, I was
Speaker 2: raised Catholic like you, but just like spiritualism and ghosts,
Speaker 2: like we're never a big part of my upbringing. I
Speaker 2: just never really thought about it. So one day I
Speaker 2: was at work and I was having a conversation with
Speaker 2: my coworkers about ghosts, and I was kind of like, oh, whatever,
Speaker 2: like I don't really believe in this. But then they
Speaker 2: were telling these stories like about being visited in dreams,
Speaker 2: and like all their stories were so similar that I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my God, like like this is real. Wow.
Speaker 2: And then coincidentally, the next day, you had done your
Speaker 2: interview with the Chatty broad So I listened to that
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, my gosh, like Roz is
Speaker 2: so cool. I'm gonna listen to her podcast. And so
Speaker 2: I just started binging it and was listening to it.
Speaker 2: And while I was listening to it, I was at
Speaker 2: work and I felt somebody walk up behind me. Like
Speaker 2: my my desk faced a wall, so my back was
Speaker 2: always to a hallway, so like you know the feeling
Speaker 2: of somebody walking behind you, and so I feel and
Speaker 2: I hear somebody walk up behind me, and in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's my coworker like coming to say hi,
Speaker 2: and I'm about to turn around, and then I feel
Speaker 2: somebody like lean over me and then just go like
Speaker 2: it did a really loud like blowing right into my ear,
Speaker 2: and I just like jumped down to my seat, and
Speaker 2: I was about to like turn around and yell at
Speaker 2: my coworker because I still thought it was her. I
Speaker 2: thought she was just messing with me. And I turn
Speaker 2: around and there's nobody there, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh gosh, like I've never had anything like that happened before.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so it's very creepy.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you work in a haunted place?
Speaker 4: You know? I don't know.
Speaker 2: At the time, I had kind of considered that maybe
Speaker 2: it was haunted. It was at Michigan State, so like
Speaker 2: places on campus are haunted, so I was kind of like, oh, maybe,
Speaker 2: like where I work, there's a ghost, but I had
Speaker 2: tried looking it up and didn't find anything. I think now,
Speaker 2: looking back on it, I almost kind of think because
Speaker 2: I was like really getting into your podcast and kind
Speaker 2: of all this stuff that like came with that, like
Speaker 2: spirits and psychics and all that, I sort of think
Speaker 2: it was like a spirit or an ancestor guide or
Speaker 2: someone just being like, hey, this is like really important
Speaker 2: and like it's gonna be a big part of your life.
Speaker 2: Like we're just telling you that, like listen up, like
Speaker 2: listen to this. And so I don't know, I kind
Speaker 2: of think it was just somebody reaching out to me
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, I don't think it was anybody anybody
Speaker 2: mean or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So interesting, because yeah, I mean, if you're like not
Speaker 1: open to that kind of thing and then you start
Speaker 1: flooding your brain with all of these ideas, maybe that
Speaker 1: is opening you up to stuff like this. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it definitely goes along with my The scariest theory
Speaker 1: to me about ghosts witch is that they don't always
Speaker 1: have to be in a haunted place. They could just
Speaker 1: kind they'll find Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They'll find you. Yeah it was.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: It's crazy too because, like I said in my email,
Speaker 2: like a couple days later, I was at work again,
Speaker 2: and it was on the weekend, so I had my
Speaker 2: office and at the time, I was still in school,
Speaker 2: so sometime i'd come in on the weekend and just
Speaker 2: like shut the door and get homework done. So I
Speaker 2: was there doing that and no one was there and
Speaker 2: my door is closed, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I hear three knocks on my door, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's weird, like a with the door closed, like nobody
Speaker 2: would know that I was really in here, and be like,
Speaker 2: nobody's here, Why is somebody knocking? So I go up
Speaker 2: to the door, I open it, I look down the
Speaker 2: hallway super long, and there's nobody there, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: very scary at the time, but now looking back, I
Speaker 2: think it was somebody nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's like see you watch these ghost hunting
Speaker 1: TV shows and they love this idea that I've heard
Speaker 1: for years now when I watch these shows where they're
Speaker 1: like three knocks, that means it's the devil and it's
Speaker 1: making fun of the Holy Trinity. Like it's like this theory,
Speaker 1: and maybe that is true. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: imagine that there's like also like ghosts of dead people
Speaker 1: or just regular old nice ghosts that are like I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna knock. I'm gonna be nice, and then they're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I did the three knocks. Damn it, I
Speaker 1: think I'm think I'm evil, Like that was in the handbook.
Speaker 1: I should have known better. But I imagine that there's
Speaker 1: there's probably ghosts that knock three times that aren't the devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just want to say hi. You know, you
Speaker 2: can't see them, so they have to announce their presence somehow.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Wait, what now this story that you were telling
Speaker 1: me about the Christmas story? Can you tell that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, oh my gosh, this is such an awesome story,
Speaker 2: Like I get chills. So yeah, so this was last Christmas.
Speaker 2: And so in my family, I have my maternal grandmother
Speaker 2: and then my papa, my maternal grandfather, and my great
Speaker 2: aunt Dori, and I think last Christmas was the first
Speaker 2: time where they were all passed. Uh, So my great
Speaker 2: aunt Dory was the last pass I think last year.
Speaker 2: And so my uncle he was just like working in
Speaker 2: his garage and he had just like random Christmas music
Speaker 2: compilations playing on his TV while he worked. And something
Speaker 2: you should know is that my grandpa, my grandma, and
Speaker 2: my great aunt like all had very distinct looks, like
Speaker 2: you could always pick him out of a crowd. My Grandpa,
Speaker 2: he was always wearing like one of those flat brimmed
Speaker 2: caps and like a little like checkered coat. And my Grandma,
Speaker 2: she was a very like bright, bubbly person, so she
Speaker 2: always had right red hair. It was always wearing red
Speaker 2: clothes all that. And my great aunt Dory was like
Speaker 2: very fashionable, very chic, so she always had black clothes
Speaker 2: on with like something leopard like a leopard star or
Speaker 2: hat just whatever, and she always had dark black hair.
Speaker 2: So anyway, he's having these compilations just like play in
Speaker 2: the background, and he happens to look up at this
Speaker 2: compilation of Christmas music that happens to be featuring V
Speaker 2: roll of just a random like like Christmas market in
Speaker 2: Poland and my family, uh, on my mom's side is
Speaker 2: all very very Polish, so it's a very big part
Speaker 2: of our family. So he's looking, he looks up at
Speaker 2: this video and he sees my grandpa, my grandma, and
Speaker 2: my great aunt all in a group like walking around
Speaker 2: this market and like it wasn't them. You know, they weren't.
Speaker 2: They weren't in Poland to when this was filmed, but
Speaker 2: it was sure enough. It was a guy in the
Speaker 2: flat broom cap, and it was a lady with like
Speaker 2: an older lady with bright red hair, and another older
Speaker 2: lady with black hair and with the cheetah scarfun and
Speaker 2: so I mean, it just was the spinning image of
Speaker 2: all three of them, and so oh gosh, yeah, So
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like even though they couldn't
Speaker 2: all be with us for the holidays, it was just
Speaker 2: like saying hi and saying, you know, even if we
Speaker 2: can't be here, uh, we can still say hi in
Speaker 2: our own way. So even though they.
Speaker 1: Were so cool, So wait, did they look like like
Speaker 1: I don't know, like the age that you remember them.
Speaker 5: Or like.
Speaker 2: Identical like spinning image like even for a while we
Speaker 2: were considering like did they ever go to Poland, Like,
Speaker 2: is it possib that it's like actually them in this video, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was very weird, and I mean literally
Speaker 2: it was just it was so random too, like you
Speaker 2: just had it playing on the background and just happened
Speaker 2: to look up at the precise moment where like they're
Speaker 2: on screen. Yeah, it was very crazy.
Speaker 1: That's like, honestly one of the most beautiful kinds of
Speaker 1: like these types of stories I've ever heard. I just
Speaker 1: think it's so cool. It makes me like really smile,
Speaker 1: it makes me like emotional, and I just think it's
Speaker 1: that's so cool.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it was. It was nice, And I think
Speaker 2: that's what's what's great about like your show and everything
Speaker 2: you talk about. It's like, you know, ghosts can be spooky,
Speaker 2: but they can also be be friendly, and they can
Speaker 2: be people that you love just telling you that everything's
Speaker 2: okay and telling you that they're still around. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a really beautiful ass.
Speaker 1: And it's also such a like Christmas Like I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a scene from some kind of Christmas movie
Speaker 1: or something. It's just like so the fact that it
Speaker 1: was at Christmas time. I love that. Hey, do you
Speaker 1: want to listen to some EVPs with me.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, well, let's listen to one EVP. I have
Speaker 1: one here, and let's just do it. I think it'd
Speaker 1: be fun.
Speaker 4: Okay, EVP.
Speaker 1: Or ev please? This one is from Ecto Vision Paranormal
Speaker 1: on YouTube and it's at the nicker Bocker Hotel in Lynnsville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And I will say that they this YouTube post, they
Speaker 1: were kind of like, this is what we think it says, which,
Speaker 1: to be fair, I should include that in there because
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're like, this is what it says,
Speaker 1: which is always like more fun to be But so
Speaker 1: I think they're open to different things. But tell me
Speaker 1: what you think you might hear. Okay, I mean there's
Speaker 1: a lot of background noise and it's a quick, like
Speaker 1: deep voice. You're playing again?
Speaker 2: All I heard was boogers.
Speaker 1: I seriously, okay, wait, let's do it again. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely like something boogers.
Speaker 5: Wait.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's some options. Do they think it says A? WHOA,
Speaker 1: you're hot? B what are you doing? See warriors? Or
Speaker 1: D pink toilet?
Speaker 2: Oh it sounds like warriors, but it also could be
Speaker 2: like what are you doing? Like really quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that one makes way more sense than warriors.
Speaker 1: But I honestly hear pink toilet, which I would love
Speaker 1: a pink toilet. That's amazing. Wait one more time. They
Speaker 1: believe it says warriors, which I'm like, why would there be? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 2: But are union they're creating a spirit army and they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Exactly that, or they're just going boggers.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: There's a ghost in my house?
Speaker 1: Hello, hes, how are you so good? I met you
Speaker 1: from stereo. You've been tuning in to the shows and
Speaker 1: contributing with some truly amazing stories. And you told me
Speaker 1: a story about living in a home that was haunted
Speaker 1: by a clown, which hopefully at one point we will
Speaker 1: get to, but well we will say, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the haunted house you grew up in. What
Speaker 1: is the story there?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, firstly, thanks for having me. Hey, this is
Speaker 3: so much well fun. I don't know if it is
Speaker 3: fun to recount, but I know that people really enjoy
Speaker 3: these stories.
Speaker 4: I is taking me a long time to actually speak
Speaker 4: of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Seems that ghosts and dealing with the spirit has followed me.
Speaker 3: My whole life, and so I'm cool with it now,
Speaker 3: you know. Okay, So my mom we used to lit
Speaker 3: my grandmother owned second hand stores two in our city.
Speaker 3: I'm in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 4: So so you know how things have energy, right.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this this morning and the
Speaker 3: telling of this story because we lived in the back
Speaker 3: of one of her stores, in an old Victorian house,
Speaker 3: of course, complete with tourette and so forth. So for
Speaker 3: any child, that's all that's kind of scary to vision with.
Speaker 4: Up in the door.
Speaker 3: We just had like an old school desk. Everything we
Speaker 3: had was secondhand and old. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was indeed the house that was haunted or the
Speaker 3: things we brought into the house.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm sure you've heard those stories, yes, And.
Speaker 1: It's what I think about constantly having a home with
Speaker 1: everything secondhand.
Speaker 4: Okay, right, So I kind of like stop that in
Speaker 4: my life. I'm now minimalist with everything brand new because
Speaker 4: I don't mess around. And I missed my vintage spens.
Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, let's get to the house. We moved
Speaker 3: from that house. Scary enough, there's stories there, but.
Speaker 4: My mom was not enjoying being in that space. Anymore.
Speaker 4: So we moved to a house, thinking it would be
Speaker 4: so fantastic.
Speaker 3: To move over by the water in this old house.
Speaker 3: It wasn't as old as the prior one, but maybe
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties nineteen twenties and still with peaked roofs and
Speaker 3: things like that. So as you entered the house, the
Speaker 3: front staircase would go up to the attic, and that
Speaker 3: is what my mother chose to be my bedroom. I
Speaker 3: was six years old at the time. And so this narrow,
Speaker 3: narrow staircase kind of you know, you know, those really
Speaker 3: old almost like the ones you see in the backs
Speaker 3: of kitchens and old buildings that go up. It was
Speaker 3: just narrow enough for one person at a time.
Speaker 4: So that, yeah, so I loved it at first.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It was a it was a slanted roof, It was
Speaker 3: the attic, and there was one window at the back
Speaker 3: that looked out into the back alley in backyard. And
Speaker 3: I had a little dog, and you're going to laugh,
Speaker 3: but his name was Spooky. I got him when we
Speaker 3: moved into that house. I know it all.
Speaker 4: I've took it. Really, I'm anything.
Speaker 3: I tell you that sounds like it's crazy, it is
Speaker 3: because it is so we moved to that, we got spooky.
Speaker 3: It was a little jack Russell terrier and he slept
Speaker 3: up in that room with me and it was really
Speaker 3: great protection. I had no closet in that room. It
Speaker 3: was just an attic straight and so from my grandmother's store,
Speaker 3: we took a clothing rack and put it in the
Speaker 3: corner to put my clothes on and the shoes underneath.
Speaker 3: And every night, you know, good night, mom, get me
Speaker 3: a glass of water. This is started immediately when we
Speaker 3: moved in, and everybody felt strange in the house, I
Speaker 3: should say, you know, it's hard to describe the feelings
Speaker 3: of things right. And there was one this is the
Speaker 3: worst part of memories. There was one tungsten bulb hanging
Speaker 3: from the ceiling, casting shadow on everything. Yeah, now, a
Speaker 3: tungsten bult like just the bulb right, like hanging from
Speaker 3: from a wire from the ceiling.
Speaker 4: There was no state over it. There was just I
Speaker 4: stared at that thing a lot.
Speaker 1: So I feel like the only time I've ever seen
Speaker 1: anything like that is like an interrogation room.
Speaker 2: And there you go.
Speaker 3: You've got the vibe. Absolutely it was. It was not cool,
Speaker 3: and we had access to shades. I don't know what
Speaker 3: my mom was thinking, so right, but she really and
Speaker 3: here's the other thing. Everything was haywire and there. My
Speaker 3: mom was a very nurturing and beautiful person, but when
Speaker 3: we moved to that house, she became very cold. We've
Speaker 3: talked about this before briefly, ros is there is something
Speaker 3: that people don't talk about about possession. And when you're
Speaker 3: living with entities or ghosts or in this case, geist,
Speaker 3: that happens like it happens like. It doesn't mean you're
Speaker 3: totally taken over, but everybody changes who lives in these places.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so tell us the ball hanging from the ceiling.
Speaker 3: Very first night, I'm up there, I have one mattress
Speaker 3: against the wall.
Speaker 4: It's okay.
Speaker 3: My mom's a hippie, so please picture that right. So,
Speaker 3: mattress on the floor. This is not a nice little
Speaker 3: girl's bedroom.
Speaker 4: But my clothes are.
Speaker 3: Hung on this rack and the rat I can fee,
Speaker 3: I can hear the coat hangers, metal coat hangers, Lien.
Speaker 4: We're talking late seventies here. I forgot to say that
Speaker 4: scraping along the metal clothing rock.
Speaker 1: And they're scraping like what do you like?
Speaker 4: Like they're moving along the clothing rack.
Speaker 1: Does it seem like there's like so I feel like
Speaker 1: there would have to be like a weight pulling it
Speaker 1: and dragging away.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean think about moving those No wind is
Speaker 3: moving like you can clothing can. My voice goes telling
Speaker 3: clothing can move in the wind.
Speaker 4: But the scraping of the yeah, okay, so that starts
Speaker 4: to happen.
Speaker 3: This is the very first memory I have of that,
Speaker 3: other than creeping creep out in general. And then and
Speaker 3: I'm please know that this happened every night, and.
Speaker 4: It got worse and worse.
Speaker 3: But this will start here is I could see eyes
Speaker 3: through the clothes. And now every time this happens to children,
Speaker 3: people are like, it's your imagination. But things escalated in
Speaker 3: this hume. But I'll just say, like glowing eyes through
Speaker 3: the clothes.
Speaker 4: And not one many many, god like way how many? Uh?
Speaker 3: Sometimes for sometimes eight? Sometimes it felt legion and I'm
Speaker 3: not joking to you, like it felt like the room
Speaker 3: my legs are not my legs are not like just
Speaker 3: goosebump right now, they're vibrating.
Speaker 4: It felt like the entire.
Speaker 3: Attic was filled with eyes and faces. Oh and so
Speaker 3: I would go yeah, and I would go catatonic and
Speaker 3: I actually would sometimes think I was screaming, right, but
Speaker 3: I wasn't. And I was extremely traumatizing, but I that
Speaker 3: was my room, right, There was no these older houses
Speaker 3: with the peaks, they're weird because they have really small rooms.
Speaker 3: So my mom's little brother was living with us. He
Speaker 3: was nineteen at the time, and he had a bedroom downstairs.
Speaker 3: My mom had a bedroom, and I had the attic.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 4: I would wait, let me jump, and then go back.
Speaker 3: Because this is how it actually happened for my mother
Speaker 3: is I would come downstairs and I'd be covered in bruises,
Speaker 3: legs on my arms, and she thought I was and
Speaker 3: this is way before I talk of self harm or anything,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't that kid.
Speaker 4: I was actually having a good old time. I was rambunctious.
Speaker 4: But so she would be like, what is going like,
Speaker 4: what is going on?
Speaker 3: And I would say, it's the people in my room,
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm six, I'm not, you know, a baby.
Speaker 4: I was kind of you know, imagine Jodie Foster, okay, six,
Speaker 4: So I was like, it's the people in my room.
Speaker 3: Mom.
Speaker 4: I was screaming for you to come, and you didn't come.
Speaker 4: And so then I was like.
Speaker 3: Always really upset with my mom because she wasn't protecting me.
Speaker 3: I asked her if I could sleep down on the couch.
Speaker 4: She's like, what are you talking about? You know what
Speaker 4: her solution was.
Speaker 3: And we're talking a young woman here who was not
Speaker 3: quite sure that I wasn't, you know, being strange. She
Speaker 3: put up, I told you my grandmother owned a couple
Speaker 3: of stores. She got a bunch of mattresses from my
Speaker 3: grandmother's stores and covered.
Speaker 4: The floor of the.
Speaker 3: Of the attic with mattresses because she thought I was
Speaker 3: rolling off my bed and like dreaming and rolling around
Speaker 3: on the floor. But I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 3: what she was trying her rest and it became like
Speaker 3: a romper room. I did have friends over in the
Speaker 3: day and after school, you know, and we had you
Speaker 3: think about it's kind of joyous for a kid, right matt.
Speaker 1: All over the original Bounce House, the.
Speaker 4: Original Bence House, except for at night.
Speaker 3: As soon as I would walk up the stairs, this
Speaker 3: tiny staircase and imagine.
Speaker 4: This is an all woodhouse.
Speaker 3: You got all the creeks, all of that good stuff
Speaker 3: that freaks you the heck out, and I'd go up
Speaker 3: and there's the light bulb. It would always be on.
Speaker 3: Oh and here's the other thing. The switch for that
Speaker 3: light bulb was at the bottom of the stairs.
Speaker 1: I have a good so you would have to turn
Speaker 1: off the light and then go all the way up
Speaker 1: the side. Dark.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, but eventually, like only a few days in I
Speaker 3: would sleep with that light on. Then it started that faces.
Speaker 3: The start every night was that the faces would swirl
Speaker 3: around that light and then land right in front of me,
Speaker 3: actual apparitions of people in front of me. So when
Speaker 3: people say do you believe in ghosts, I say yes,
Speaker 3: because I've seen them right in front of me.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 1: Because they were eyeballs. Now what's attached to them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, eyeballs. For quite a long time, I guess
Speaker 4: I didn't. I'm sorry. I make the speaker. We were
Speaker 4: only in this house.
Speaker 3: It feels like ten years, but we were only in
Speaker 3: this house for eight months I believe six to eight
Speaker 3: months something like that, because it was horrendous. So the
Speaker 3: apparitions every night would sit They would like a little
Speaker 3: girl would sit cross legged right by my head, and
Speaker 3: I would Okay, this gets and please feel sorry for me,
Speaker 3: because you should would sit right by my head. She
Speaker 3: seemed to have family standing behind her, like standing, so
Speaker 3: she would sit cross legged and they would stand. I
Speaker 3: couldn't really make out if it was a man and
Speaker 3: a woman, right, It was just like they were so
Speaker 3: straight faced.
Speaker 5: Do you know how in.
Speaker 3: Photos like you almost can't tell gener back in the
Speaker 3: day because they were so plain and I don't know,
Speaker 3: it was like that.
Speaker 4: And we're not talking color.
Speaker 3: Either, definite kind of gray apparition looking.
Speaker 4: See through.
Speaker 3: I've seen uh ghosts since and this is kind of
Speaker 3: a theme maybe the way I see them. I don't
Speaker 3: know how others see.
Speaker 1: But but you mean like like sort of black and
Speaker 1: white photos almost yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly almost the CPA okay, yeah, because they
Speaker 3: weren't like black and white. It was just they were dimmed,
Speaker 3: you know all. And then I would crawl over to
Speaker 3: the window to get any light I could different light
Speaker 3: from that light bulb. There was something, you know how,
Speaker 3: you can't describe it. There was something about it. I
Speaker 3: needed it on, but I also wanted it off because
Speaker 3: it would maybe I wouldn't see the shadows and the
Speaker 3: and the At the same time of this landing by
Speaker 3: my bed, there would still be movement by the rack
Speaker 3: as well. Every single night, so I wasn't sleeping. Most likely,
Speaker 3: I certainly didn't feel like it was. I would wake
Speaker 3: up in the morning sleeping. It took to I would.
Speaker 3: I took from my grandmother's store a bunch of glass
Speaker 3: old fashioned. I know it sounds funny, but it was
Speaker 3: the late seventies, so everything was kind of old looking
Speaker 3: glass baby bottles, and I would put them on the
Speaker 3: windowsill in the back. Remember I'm six years old and
Speaker 3: kind of savvy, and I would suck on those baby
Speaker 3: bottles to help me.
Speaker 4: To calm myself.
Speaker 1: It isn't that bad, I know.
Speaker 3: And I would sit under the window, on the mattress
Speaker 3: that was under the window and just stare.
Speaker 4: Into the room, sucking on these baby bottles. I know.
Speaker 1: That was why my cards, I know, I know, child, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was yeah.
Speaker 3: And I would tell my mom and she would be like,
Speaker 3: you know, oh, you and your imagination, which I did
Speaker 3: become an actor later, but you know, uh, it was
Speaker 3: not my imagination. And they found out that it was
Speaker 3: not my imagination. Nobody wanted to go. And now the
Speaker 3: bruises continued.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I would go to sleep at one end of the room,
Speaker 3: I'd be wake I'd wake up at the other end. Now,
Speaker 3: that could be me rolling on all of those mattresses.
Speaker 4: That's what would happen.
Speaker 3: But that's what would happen. Prior to the mattresses. I
Speaker 3: would be on the other side of the room. So
Speaker 3: when you're that young, I you know, I don't wish
Speaker 3: I was older, but it would have been cooler to
Speaker 3: have more to say about that. It was just every
Speaker 3: night my dog would.
Speaker 4: Know that it was happening. Ears up.
Speaker 3: It was of Jack Russell. He was really bright, ears up.
Speaker 3: He would run to the window first, often to say
Speaker 3: it's time now to go to the window. There was
Speaker 3: a safe spot at that window. Somehow, I don't know this,
Speaker 3: at least that's how it felt. I did this strange
Speaker 3: thing with a friend of mine from school. I brought
Speaker 3: her home one day and I wanted to impress her.
Speaker 3: Lots of psychological problems with this little girl at the
Speaker 3: time and myself, I mean, and I didn't like that
Speaker 3: clothing rack as you can imagine it, and I gave
Speaker 3: her all of my clothes. Now, in the late seventies,
Speaker 3: kids didn't have a million pieces of clothing. I think
Speaker 3: I had, like, you know, ten things hanging on that rack,
Speaker 3: and I gave her everything because I didn't want them
Speaker 3: to have any place to hide. And my mom had
Speaker 3: to trounce over to your house and get all my
Speaker 3: things back. That's another interesting way out of that. But anyway, okay,
Speaker 3: so back down the stairs, let's just go on.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, did that change anything? Like when there was
Speaker 1: no clothes hanging up? Did it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: My mom got the clothes back, like, oh okay, right, well,
Speaker 3: she was like she was really mad at me, right, Like,
Speaker 3: it was like trounce me over to her house and
Speaker 3: it was a very neighborhoody thing where it just walked
Speaker 3: like you know, five doors down and or whatever it
Speaker 3: was two blocks down.
Speaker 4: To her house and got everything back. So I was
Speaker 4: thwarted in my.
Speaker 3: Saving because you know, no place to hide. And the
Speaker 3: interesting thing about why do like the people that they
Speaker 3: were almost protecting me, the one the little girl coming
Speaker 3: beside my bed, definitely a protection feeling. I always felt
Speaker 3: a bit better, although freaked out, didn't like it right,
Speaker 3: but definitely what it was going on, the many and
Speaker 3: the eyes and the rustling and the squeaking, that didn't
Speaker 3: feel good, you know. So I really felt that there
Speaker 3: was so much going on in this house and I
Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, I'll tell you more about the area
Speaker 3: maybe one another time.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I been to jump.
Speaker 3: A little bit because this house escalated. Cupboards opening and
Speaker 3: closing in our kitchen, the TV coming off and on
Speaker 3: with fuzz only just our what is that called static only?
Speaker 4: Just like Poultergeist in the movie?
Speaker 1: Did you luck at you didn't get sucked in there?
Speaker 3: Girl, I'm telling you, like, just on and on and on,
Speaker 3: And here's here's why it's called the house of death
Speaker 3: in my family. By six months in I developed scarlet fever, which.
Speaker 4: No foregot at that time. I had by the time
Speaker 4: I left, we left, I had boils on my I
Speaker 4: was in the.
Speaker 3: My mom moved a mattress down into the living room,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know if I manifested.
Speaker 4: This just to get out of the right like thinking
Speaker 4: in hindsight, I mean, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: My uncle Joe, who was nineteen twenty at the time,
Speaker 3: as I said, developed had not traveled, developed malaria. What
Speaker 3: at the same time as I had scarlet fever, and.
Speaker 4: He he had his liver failed.
Speaker 5: He was my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was brought to an emergency like this is
Speaker 3: a culmination of the Poultergeist things. You know when I
Speaker 3: say things smashing, like I remember being at the kitchen
Speaker 3: table eating cereal one morning and a jug being pushed
Speaker 3: off of the counter and smashing on the floor, like
Speaker 3: just like the movies.
Speaker 4: Ross, I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1: You're the rest of your family, you know, your your
Speaker 1: mom and your uncle. Did they how long until they
Speaker 1: discovered that this stuff was happening?
Speaker 4: Oh right away? It's yeah, like because six months.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the bedroom stuff with me, what it would
Speaker 3: I imagine now because I was six at the time,
Speaker 3: is things were happening with them downstairs, but they weren't
Speaker 3: they We had no reck course, we you know, couldn't
Speaker 3: move anywhere. You know, there was financial problems with my mom.
Speaker 3: All of this, like it just went to Mayhem levels,
Speaker 3: like there was my mom's bedroom was actually kind of
Speaker 3: between living room and kitchen and had French doors with
Speaker 3: glass inlay inside, and those like open and smashed in
Speaker 3: on her and just a couple of the frames cracked,
Speaker 3: but she was sleeping at the time and crash.
Speaker 4: We all heard it, right, And you know, it's funny.
Speaker 4: Why I stayed up in my room.
Speaker 3: I do remember, and this is just memory stuff because
Speaker 3: I don't remember too well. But my mom would actually
Speaker 3: I would come down. Of course, I'm a kid, right,
Speaker 3: it would come down.
Speaker 4: Please can I sleep with you and stuff? And she
Speaker 4: would be like, no, get back to your room. And
Speaker 4: I don't know why. That'll never have answered because my
Speaker 4: kid would have slept with me every.
Speaker 3: Minute of that experience, right, So I don't know why. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a and she never was able to answer me.
Speaker 3: I think guilt or whatever. So anyway, back to the
Speaker 3: House of Death. It's the only house with the grass
Speaker 3: grown up. There's cardboard in the windows still today.
Speaker 4: There go my legs again, and the front staircase is
Speaker 4: ripped off the house. It has no nose.
Speaker 3: It is a sheer face so that no one can
Speaker 3: enter that house. Somebody did that. I can even send
Speaker 3: you a picture, Oz if you'd like one day. Yes,
Speaker 3: then quickly, quickly we walk. My daughter can feel the
Speaker 3: energy as well.
Speaker 4: We walk around.
Speaker 3: She's just fascinated, right, and I'm like, don't be too fascinated.
Speaker 3: We walk around the alley to look. I want to
Speaker 3: show her where my bedroom was, right for the story.
Speaker 3: We look up and we see an old man with
Speaker 3: a beard in the attic room.
Speaker 1: A real old man or a creepy ghost old man.
Speaker 3: It looked creepy ghost, but I'm thinking it was real,
Speaker 3: like some sort of shut in in there.
Speaker 4: But let's go with ghosts. Yeah, he was a little
Speaker 4: CPF And I told it too fast.
Speaker 5: I was going to build to that.
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you my daughter's side. There was somebody
Speaker 4: in that.
Speaker 3: Attic, and of course we know there were probably hundreds
Speaker 3: of people in that attic.
Speaker 1: So what's the story? What is that house?
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to find any history in the back.
Speaker 3: There was tons of stuff in the backyard, some old hermit,
Speaker 3: like that's what.
Speaker 4: It looked like.
Speaker 3: It looked like an old hermit, dude, But why was
Speaker 3: he in the attic right at the time of what's
Speaker 3: going to look at it?
Speaker 4: If you were really pretty This is a.
Speaker 3: Kind of decent area in Vancouver, right, and albeit families
Speaker 3: and you know whatever, But like, that house looks like
Speaker 3: an old what do you call it?
Speaker 4: Horder lives there now?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: But with no staircase in the front. Staircase in the
Speaker 4: back was still on.
Speaker 3: But the moment we turned around the corner, there's a
Speaker 3: face in the attic.
Speaker 4: Window and it's a little triangle window too.
Speaker 5: Pretty good.
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I've heard a story like this
Speaker 1: with like a house that has just so much activity
Speaker 1: and so many, so many different ghosts, I feel like
Speaker 1: the history usually ends up being that it was like
Speaker 1: a mortuary or some kind of place where there was
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 3: Exactly and maybe even if that area was built up
Speaker 3: from logging camps and stuff. As I said, it was
Speaker 3: near the water and it's on the east side of Vancouver,
Speaker 3: which is.
Speaker 4: Built up. Now, who knows what that house was.
Speaker 3: Built on even right, it could have been that there
Speaker 3: was some sort of boarding like shot round shackled boarding
Speaker 3: place before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've tried to look. I didn't look that.
Speaker 3: Deeply, just looked into the history of the house, and
Speaker 3: basically it hasn't been sold or because my mom rented
Speaker 3: that house and it hasn't been sold since that time,
Speaker 3: so whoever owned it still owns it, although it just
Speaker 3: has one.
Speaker 4: Of those numbers like a title number, no person listed.
Speaker 1: So it's there. My god, this is a good one.
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. I'll ride Hello Kyle, Hello, I
Speaker 1: know that you have like a bajillion ghost stories. You
Speaker 1: have contributed quite a few to some lives, and what
Speaker 1: should we get into. Which one should we talk about.
Speaker 5: I feel like we should talk about the one that
Speaker 5: I briefly mentioned in the email, about something that happened
Speaker 5: when I was a little bitty baby and it kind
Speaker 5: of scared but interested in my mom. I don't know
Speaker 5: how to explain the story, like, but I'll just say it. So, okay,
Speaker 5: what I was the firstborn in the family, and my
Speaker 5: family has been living in the house, and they still
Speaker 5: lived to the same house to this day since like
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty three. So my parents bought it when they
Speaker 5: were really young, back when you know, you could afford
Speaker 5: to buy houses. And this was I guess this is
Speaker 5: a late nineties now or not late in the early nineties.
Speaker 5: I was just I was only a couple of months old,
Speaker 5: and my dad was gone away working in Ohio and
Speaker 5: he was in a couple other states. He's traveling around
Speaker 5: a lot, so my mom was home alone with me.
Speaker 5: I had a rough kind of and this is context
Speaker 5: of a story. I had a rough kind of couple
Speaker 5: months of my life. I was born like really premature,
Speaker 5: had some how stuff going on. So when I finally
Speaker 5: came back home. My mom said that like, as soon
Speaker 5: as I was brought into the home, like the air
Speaker 5: or something felt kind of different. And it didn't feel
Speaker 5: like bad or in like a negative way, but she
Speaker 5: just felt like it wasn't just her always like hanging
Speaker 5: around the house, if that makes sense. So she's at
Speaker 5: home one afternoon with me. She put me down to sleep,
Speaker 5: and she thought, well, I'm going to take a nap too.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm really tired and there's no one else
Speaker 5: to watch, so I'll just I'll take a quick nap
Speaker 5: and then I'll wake up and continue the day. So
Speaker 5: she goes to sleep, and she said she had the
Speaker 5: strangest dream, and it was very vivid, and it was
Speaker 5: like something that you'd almost have like during the middle
Speaker 5: of the night, but this is like just during a nap.
Speaker 5: And in the dream, she saw a little girl kind
Speaker 5: of just standing in another room, but the room didn't
Speaker 5: look like anything that she knew, and she was there
Speaker 5: as well, and the girl just kept on looking at her,
Speaker 5: and she wasn't really sure to take his dream. She's like, oh,
Speaker 5: like there's a weird fever dream, what's going on kind
Speaker 5: of thing? And then suddenly everything went white and she
Speaker 5: just kind of felt like she was in this sort
Speaker 5: of like white kind of void. And then she started
Speaker 5: he caring mommy, mommy, the baby, the baby, and it
Speaker 5: kept on repeating and repeating, and she started just getting
Speaker 5: this feeling that like she had to wake up and
Speaker 5: she had to go check on me, and she the
Speaker 5: noises kept on kind of repeating, and she was finally
Speaker 5: able to wake up, and when she did, she instantly
Speaker 5: just had that kind of mother's instinct was like, I
Speaker 5: have to go check on Kyle. So she ran into
Speaker 5: the my room and I ended up somehow flipping over
Speaker 5: and like face down and like my face right into
Speaker 5: the mattress of the crib. And at that point she
Speaker 5: kind of quickly flipped me over. And she was still
Speaker 5: word to this day that she thought if she didn't
Speaker 5: have that dream or she wasn't like notified that she
Speaker 5: was wording, something bad was going to happen to me,
Speaker 5: because you know, infants of that age, once they somehow
Speaker 5: flip over, you know, they don't have the strength to
Speaker 5: like roll themselves back mm hm. So that was that
Speaker 5: was spooky for her. And then from then on she
Speaker 5: had a bunch of other things happen, and it was
Speaker 5: always usually when she was home along with me, So
Speaker 5: like there was certain times where toys would randomly turn
Speaker 5: on themselves. There was like a little cat toy that
Speaker 5: you would wind up that one day it just randomly
Speaker 5: turned on by itself and ended up from the top
Speaker 5: shelf of the closet down onto the floor of the
Speaker 5: closet and it was just spinning around in circles, going
Speaker 5: around and around. So that was kind of spooky, and
Speaker 5: that was Yeah, that was that kind of story. And
Speaker 5: I have a bunch more too, But.
Speaker 1: So what do you think you does anybody have a
Speaker 1: theory on what was going on?
Speaker 5: You know what? I feel like my family has just
Speaker 5: kind of concluded that this is just some sort of
Speaker 5: female spirit that for whatever reason, is attached to the
Speaker 5: house or attached to the land, because you know, I
Speaker 5: would say maybe it's the house, because you you know,
Speaker 5: usually go spirits might attach themselves to a house if
Speaker 5: it's older. But this is in like a quieter subdivision
Speaker 5: that was built in like the seventies, so not even
Speaker 5: really fifteen years before they moved in. But if you
Speaker 5: look into the history of that part of Canada and stuff.
Speaker 5: There's lots of history, and that whole area was very
Speaker 5: big for like farmers back in the eighteen hundred. Side
Speaker 5: established himself there and bought land, So we wondered, is
Speaker 5: that something to do with it. There's no really history
Speaker 5: of anything kind of weird going on in the house.
Speaker 5: There's only one person that lived there prior, and I
Speaker 5: was a mid aged woman that was single and she
Speaker 5: just ended up moving. I think it's just some sort
Speaker 5: of spirit of a girl that's attached herself to the
Speaker 5: family and maybe more specifically to me, because my mom
Speaker 5: is convinced that it's the whole thing that like I
Speaker 5: was the first born. I was the first child that
Speaker 5: kind of showed up in the house. So for whatever
Speaker 5: he is in the spirit showed interest in me and
Speaker 5: was like, oh, there's like, you know, there's a here.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I feel like that's what it is.
Speaker 5: It's never been harmful.
Speaker 1: So she was like, how long did you guys live there?
Speaker 5: I lived there all my life, so like I lived
Speaker 5: there from like the time I was born, and then
Speaker 5: I moved out in my early twenties and my parents
Speaker 5: are still there, and my parents could tell you there's
Speaker 5: still stuff that goes on, or they still kind of
Speaker 5: feel at set of presence.
Speaker 1: Really, so like, yeah, what are some more stories about
Speaker 1: this house.
Speaker 5: I can tell one of my ones about seeing who
Speaker 5: I think is Tara. So she got this name apparently
Speaker 5: from me when I was like three to four years old,
Speaker 5: because I'd be playing in my room and it's this
Speaker 5: very typical story that you hear a lot, but I
Speaker 5: was playing in my room and I'd always be talking
Speaker 5: to someone that wasn't there and just having hood of
Speaker 5: a time, having fun, and my mom would be like, Oky,
Speaker 5: who you talking to? And I'd say, Oh, you're not
Speaker 5: Tara's here. We're playing this, so we're doing that, and
Speaker 5: you know, typical parents like, oh, it's just an imaginary
Speaker 5: friend or whatever. But my mom like sort of believe that.
Speaker 5: But also because from that one experience when I was
Speaker 5: a baby and then some of the other things moving around,
Speaker 5: she thought, well, maybe he does actually see something I can't.
Speaker 1: But where would you get that name from? Were you
Speaker 1: a Tara Reid fan?
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't. I don't think so. I ain't a
Speaker 5: Tara Reed fan now, so I don't think that's a translation.
Speaker 5: I don't know, right, And That's that's the strange thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, how does a kid just like come up
Speaker 5: with this name and be so confident and saying, oh,
Speaker 5: this is Tara. It's like I would think it's because
Speaker 5: she told me, right, or that's.
Speaker 1: What I would think.
Speaker 5: She said, my name is Tara. Needed to let everyone
Speaker 5: know that. Yeah, but yeah, going back to a couple
Speaker 5: of times I've seen her, and it's always it's always
Speaker 5: that night.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 5: So how old was I? Oh, gosh, I'd maybe be
Speaker 5: like this is a very very first time. I'd probably
Speaker 5: be like ten eleven. I remember going to bed, and
Speaker 5: I remember like nothing was out of the ordinary, and
Speaker 5: I woke up because I'm a light sleeper, literally like
Speaker 5: the door could open and I'd be like wide away,
Speaker 5: be like what's going on. I suddenly woke up and
Speaker 5: I felt like someone was in the room with me,
Speaker 5: and I was kind of facing like out towards her.
Speaker 5: Like I had a really really long dresser and then
Speaker 5: I really tall dressers, almost like a whole section of
Speaker 5: the bedroom. Anyways, I kind of like looked up at
Speaker 5: the dresser and there's a little girl just sitting there
Speaker 5: on the dresser, and again it was tall enough where
Speaker 5: like her feet were kind of like dangling. She didn't
Speaker 5: look that old, and she was just like looking at me,
Speaker 5: and I was obviously so scared, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe I'm just dreaming. It's like I closed my eyes
Speaker 5: and opened my eyes again and she was still there.
Speaker 1: So that's supposed to work.
Speaker 5: It was supposed to work. So I instantly just kind
Speaker 5: of like did the typical like I'm going to turn
Speaker 5: and face the other way now. And the weirdest thing
Speaker 5: was is again, this would just continue to happen like this.
Speaker 5: That was the first time, and I thought, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I wasn't convinced obviously. At first. I was like, this
Speaker 5: is just a dream, I'm seeing things whatever, And I'm
Speaker 5: gonna happened second time not too much long after that,
Speaker 5: and it's literally basically the same thing. But that time,
Speaker 5: the second time I saw her is I saw her
Speaker 5: in a bean bag chair in the corner in my
Speaker 5: bedroom and she was just like sitting in the bean
Speaker 5: bag chair and my eyes. I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: close my eyes and like open them. She's gonna be gone, right, No,
Speaker 5: she's still there. Wait a minute.
Speaker 1: So when somebody's it's in a bean bag chair. It
Speaker 1: kind of like morphs around them. Did it like do
Speaker 1: that or was she like floating on it?
Speaker 5: It looked like she was like sitting in it, like
Speaker 5: like morphed in like just I wait to her. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And that was spooky still too. I was like, well,
Speaker 5: how does she do that? Right? Because you think of
Speaker 5: a ghost like, oh, you know, they're not going to
Speaker 5: actually take form like a human or whatever. And you know,
Speaker 5: like I it sounds kind of contradicting where you like,
Speaker 5: I think it's good to question yourself sometimes. So like
Speaker 5: I think for the most part, that probably was her.
Speaker 5: Do I do I think every single time you know,
Speaker 5: I saw her? Because I've probably had that sort of
Speaker 5: same situation multi like at least five six times. Do
Speaker 5: I think every single time you know it was actually her?
Speaker 5: Where was? I kind of tricky myself. I don't know right,
Speaker 5: like it's possible, but I think it was actually her?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: So did anyone else ever see her? My mom's seen
Speaker 5: her a few times, and that was usually when again
Speaker 5: she'd be home alone or have the kids, because you know,
Speaker 5: a year and a half after I was born, my
Speaker 5: one brother was born, so like even then she would
Speaker 5: still a lot of times she would see the typical
Speaker 5: like just kind of like a shadow or like movement,
Speaker 5: either like in the corner of her eye or a
Speaker 5: lot of times she would go downstairs where all the
Speaker 5: kids toys were. She told me this actually a couple
Speaker 5: of days ago. There was one time she went down
Speaker 5: to the basement and there's a bunch of toys, that's
Speaker 5: where all the kids hung out whatever. And as she
Speaker 5: went down the stairs, like when you kind of go
Speaker 5: eye level, there'd be all the toys and stuff, and
Speaker 5: then there we had a big, huge, like sectional. She
Speaker 5: saw like a movement and it looked like this like
Speaker 5: kind of an apparition of a small kid kind of
Speaker 5: like run behind because we had all these like big
Speaker 5: like car toy sets and we had like a it's
Speaker 5: like that sounds so stupid, like a ball pit thing
Speaker 5: with all these like balls and stuff, you know, for
Speaker 5: like two year olds, and like it was shaped like
Speaker 5: a Teddy bear, and she I saw like something like
Speaker 5: run from behind, like that kind of floating ball set thing,
Speaker 5: and like run and kind of go towards like get
Speaker 5: a bar. But like in order to see where this
Speaker 5: you know, shadow wherever went, you would have to kind
Speaker 5: of turn your body quickly and like really kind of
Speaker 5: look to the right. But by the time she had
Speaker 5: to look there, there's nothing there. So lots of things
Speaker 5: like that, right, So a lot of things like just
Speaker 5: seeing like little literally little apparitions just kind of running here,
Speaker 5: going here, doing that. And I mentioned in an email
Speaker 5: my family's super strong believers of all this stuff. So
Speaker 5: he would ask her and be like, well, were you scared,
Speaker 5: And eventually she's like no, She's like, I just knew
Speaker 5: she was here. I didn't bug her, she didn't bug me,
Speaker 5: so we just left it at the So you think.
Speaker 1: It's just one spirit, there's not multiple.
Speaker 5: I personally think there's multiple because I've seen more like
Speaker 5: the apparition of like a like a an older woman
Speaker 5: I guess not older, but like mid aged someone who's
Speaker 5: grown up. So I think it's multiple because I've seen
Speaker 5: her one time.
Speaker 1: Or it could be that thing that I was talking
Speaker 1: to Amy Bruney about, like it could be like a
Speaker 1: woman that also lives as like a child at times,
Speaker 1: like she manifests in that oh ye, in that headspace
Speaker 1: or something. You know, it could it could all be
Speaker 1: the same, but who knows.
Speaker 5: That's a good point. It very well could be. Maybe
Speaker 5: for some reason she had strong ties and memories to
Speaker 5: being a child in that times in our you know,
Speaker 5: in order to interact with the kids, she would take
Speaker 5: that form. That's a really good point. I never thought
Speaker 5: of that because I mentioned it on stereo before. But
Speaker 5: I did see her like two years ago when I
Speaker 5: came back to visit my parents. And that's a whole
Speaker 5: thing too, right, because a lot of times when I
Speaker 5: go back to my parents' house, I always feel that
Speaker 5: sort of presence, and that's when I usually always see something.
Speaker 5: I don't really see things as much like where I
Speaker 5: live now or whatever. It's it's always when I go
Speaker 5: back to that location, do I like feel different and
Speaker 5: see different things.
Speaker 1: What was it like when you saw her when you
Speaker 1: went back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like two years ago, she I was doing dishes
Speaker 5: and there's a window like right in front of like
Speaker 5: the saint and if you look at it, there's like
Speaker 5: reflections of the wrestle of the house, so like you
Speaker 5: can see the one like hallway to the front door,
Speaker 5: like you can see like parts of like other spaces. Anyways,
Speaker 5: like I do this silly thing where sometimes when I'm
Speaker 5: home alone or I go back and visit, I'll sort
Speaker 5: of like talk out into the open and if something
Speaker 5: wants to respond or whatever, you know, I'm open to
Speaker 5: letting it do that. So I said something down the
Speaker 5: lines of, you know, I haven't visited for like a while.
Speaker 5: I had I had a time whe I didn't really
Speaker 5: go back to see my parents for like almost a year.
Speaker 5: So and this was then, and I said, you know,
Speaker 5: I haven't visited in a while, but I'm happy to
Speaker 5: be back and I hope things are okay in the house. Basically,
Speaker 5: as soon as I said that, I felt like a
Speaker 5: woman's hand kind of brushed the back of my neck
Speaker 5: and kind of run along my left shoulder. And I
Speaker 5: could tell it was a woman because she had like
Speaker 5: it felt like nails, right, that sort of feeling if
Speaker 5: someone kind of like brushed at the top of their
Speaker 5: you know, freshly done nails on the top, like on
Speaker 5: the back of neck. So I felt that, and I
Speaker 5: looked back and I saw like the apparition of a
Speaker 5: woman standing kind of in the hallway, and that was interesting.
Speaker 5: It did definitely see a different woman. Yeah, well, I'm
Speaker 5: honestly that one theory you mentioned about maybe it's just
Speaker 5: one spear that kind of manifests itself in different forms
Speaker 5: because it wasn't a clear enough apparition where I could
Speaker 5: see facial features and stuff, right, Like, it was more
Speaker 5: that kind of typical like why people say like like
Speaker 5: a shadow person or like I couldn't really make much
Speaker 5: details out, but I could tell that it was probably
Speaker 5: a woman and maybe her like twenties thirties, not overly tall,
Speaker 5: but you could tell there was a shape of an
Speaker 5: adult woman.
Speaker 1: Could you see clothes?
Speaker 5: You know, it was more kind of drogynous. It didn't
Speaker 5: really I couldn't tell like if she was wearing a
Speaker 5: dress or whatever. I assumed like that they were wearing pants. Again,
Speaker 5: it was just very like almost like an outline like
Speaker 5: a silhouette. Like there wasn't really too much actual features
Speaker 5: just besides that, I don't know, I could tell, like
Speaker 5: there's a little more curvature like in the hip and stuff,
Speaker 5: so it looked more like a female.
Speaker 1: Body because that gorgeous nails with.
Speaker 5: Gorgeous nails, yeah, because I definitely felt those and that
Speaker 5: was like, honestly, the cut, like the nails thing was
Speaker 5: more freaking than actually like seeing the apparition, right like
Speaker 5: I'm not ready for someone to just suddenly like touch
Speaker 5: the back of my neck. I don't want people touching
Speaker 5: the back of my neck with or without a good
Speaker 5: nail set on.
Speaker 2: So right.
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