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Speaker 1: Hiras dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: listener phone Call Extravaganza. Maybe my favorite week of the

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Speaker 1: So of course, send me an email at ghosted by

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Speaker 1: d C. How are you hi, Roz, I'm good. How

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Speaker 4: I is taking me a long time to actually speak

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Speaker 3: Seems that ghosts and dealing with the spirit has followed me.

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Speaker 3: We just had like an old school desk. Everything we

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, So I kind of like stop that in

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Speaker 4: And not one many many, god like way how many? Uh?

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Speaker 4: I was actually having a good old time. I was rambunctious.

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Speaker 4: I was screaming for you to come, and you didn't come.

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Speaker 4: And so then I was like.

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00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: Always really upset with my mom because she wasn't protecting me.

438
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: I asked her if I could sleep down on the couch.

439
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: She's like, what are you talking about? You know what

440
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 4: her solution was.

441
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: And we're talking a young woman here who was not

442
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: quite sure that I wasn't, you know, being strange. She

443
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: put up, I told you my grandmother owned a couple

444
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: of stores. She got a bunch of mattresses from my

445
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: grandmother's stores and covered.

446
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: The floor of the.

447
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: Of the attic with mattresses because she thought I was

448
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: rolling off my bed and like dreaming and rolling around

449
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: on the floor. But I don't know, I don't know

450
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: what she was trying her rest and it became like

451
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: a romper room. I did have friends over in the

452
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: day and after school, you know, and we had you

453
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: think about it's kind of joyous for a kid, right matt.

454
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: All over the original Bounce House, the.

455
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: Original Bence House, except for at night.

456
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: As soon as I would walk up the stairs, this

457
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: tiny staircase and imagine.

458
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: This is an all woodhouse.

459
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: You got all the creeks, all of that good stuff

460
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 3: that freaks you the heck out, and I'd go up

461
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 3: and there's the light bulb. It would always be on.

462
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: Oh and here's the other thing. The switch for that

463
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: light bulb was at the bottom of the stairs.

464
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: I have a good so you would have to turn

465
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: off the light and then go all the way up

466
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: the side. Dark.

467
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

468
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: Now, but eventually, like only a few days in I

469
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: would sleep with that light on. Then it started that faces.

470
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: The start every night was that the faces would swirl

471
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: around that light and then land right in front of me,

472
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: actual apparitions of people in front of me. So when

473
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: people say do you believe in ghosts, I say yes,

474
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: because I've seen them right in front of me.

475
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: And.

476
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: Because they were eyeballs. Now what's attached to them?

477
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, eyeballs. For quite a long time, I guess

478
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: I didn't. I'm sorry. I make the speaker. We were

479
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: only in this house.

480
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: It feels like ten years, but we were only in

481
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: this house for eight months I believe six to eight

482
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: months something like that, because it was horrendous. So the

483
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: apparitions every night would sit They would like a little

484
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: girl would sit cross legged right by my head, and

485
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: I would Okay, this gets and please feel sorry for me,

486
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: because you should would sit right by my head. She

487
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: seemed to have family standing behind her, like standing, so

488
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: she would sit cross legged and they would stand. I

489
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: couldn't really make out if it was a man and

490
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: a woman, right, It was just like they were so

491
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: straight faced.

492
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: Do you know how in.

493
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Photos like you almost can't tell gener back in the

494
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: day because they were so plain and I don't know,

495
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: it was like that.

496
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: And we're not talking color.

497
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Either, definite kind of gray apparition looking.

498
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: See through.

499
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: I've seen uh ghosts since and this is kind of

500
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: a theme maybe the way I see them. I don't

501
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: know how others see.

502
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: But but you mean like like sort of black and

503
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: white photos almost yeah.

504
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly almost the CPA okay, yeah, because they

505
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: weren't like black and white. It was just they were dimmed,

506
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: you know all. And then I would crawl over to

507
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: the window to get any light I could different light

508
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: from that light bulb. There was something, you know how,

509
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: you can't describe it. There was something about it. I

510
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: needed it on, but I also wanted it off because

511
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: it would maybe I wouldn't see the shadows and the

512
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: and the At the same time of this landing by

513
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: my bed, there would still be movement by the rack

514
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: as well. Every single night, so I wasn't sleeping. Most likely,

515
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: I certainly didn't feel like it was. I would wake

516
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: up in the morning sleeping. It took to I would.

517
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: I took from my grandmother's store a bunch of glass

518
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: old fashioned. I know it sounds funny, but it was

519
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: the late seventies, so everything was kind of old looking

520
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: glass baby bottles, and I would put them on the

521
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: windowsill in the back. Remember I'm six years old and

522
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: kind of savvy, and I would suck on those baby

523
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: bottles to help me.

524
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: To calm myself.

525
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: It isn't that bad, I know.

526
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: And I would sit under the window, on the mattress

527
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: that was under the window and just stare.

528
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: Into the room, sucking on these baby bottles. I know.

529
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: That was why my cards, I know, I know, child, Yeah,

530
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: it was yeah.

531
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: And I would tell my mom and she would be like,

532
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 3: you know, oh, you and your imagination, which I did

533
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: become an actor later, but you know, uh, it was

534
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: not my imagination. And they found out that it was

535
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: not my imagination. Nobody wanted to go. And now the

536
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: bruises continued.

537
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: I was.

538
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: I would go to sleep at one end of the room,

539
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: I'd be wake I'd wake up at the other end. Now,

540
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: that could be me rolling on all of those mattresses.

541
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: That's what would happen.

542
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: But that's what would happen. Prior to the mattresses. I

543
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: would be on the other side of the room. So

544
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: when you're that young, I you know, I don't wish

545
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: I was older, but it would have been cooler to

546
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: have more to say about that. It was just every

547
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: night my dog would.

548
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: Know that it was happening. Ears up.

549
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: It was of Jack Russell. He was really bright, ears up.

550
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: He would run to the window first, often to say

551
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: it's time now to go to the window. There was

552
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: a safe spot at that window. Somehow, I don't know this,

553
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: at least that's how it felt. I did this strange

554
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: thing with a friend of mine from school. I brought

555
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: her home one day and I wanted to impress her.

556
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: Lots of psychological problems with this little girl at the

557
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: time and myself, I mean, and I didn't like that

558
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: clothing rack as you can imagine it, and I gave

559
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: her all of my clothes. Now, in the late seventies,

560
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: kids didn't have a million pieces of clothing. I think

561
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: I had, like, you know, ten things hanging on that rack,

562
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 3: and I gave her everything because I didn't want them

563
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: to have any place to hide. And my mom had

564
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: to trounce over to your house and get all my

565
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: things back. That's another interesting way out of that. But anyway, okay,

566
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: so back down the stairs, let's just go on.

567
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: Oh wait, did that change anything? Like when there was

568
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: no clothes hanging up? Did it?

569
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

570
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: My mom got the clothes back, like, oh okay, right, well,

571
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: she was like she was really mad at me, right, Like,

572
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: it was like trounce me over to her house and

573
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: it was a very neighborhoody thing where it just walked

574
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: like you know, five doors down and or whatever it

575
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: was two blocks down.

576
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: To her house and got everything back. So I was

577
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: thwarted in my.

578
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Saving because you know, no place to hide. And the

579
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: interesting thing about why do like the people that they

580
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: were almost protecting me, the one the little girl coming

581
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: beside my bed, definitely a protection feeling. I always felt

582
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: a bit better, although freaked out, didn't like it right,

583
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: but definitely what it was going on, the many and

584
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: the eyes and the rustling and the squeaking, that didn't

585
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: feel good, you know. So I really felt that there

586
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: was so much going on in this house and I

587
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, I'll tell you more about the area

588
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: maybe one another time.

589
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: But anyway, I been to jump.

590
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: A little bit because this house escalated. Cupboards opening and

591
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: closing in our kitchen, the TV coming off and on

592
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: with fuzz only just our what is that called static only?

593
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 4: Just like Poultergeist in the movie?

594
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Did you luck at you didn't get sucked in there?

595
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: Girl, I'm telling you, like, just on and on and on,

596
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: And here's here's why it's called the house of death

597
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: in my family. By six months in I developed scarlet fever, which.

598
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: No foregot at that time. I had by the time

599
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: I left, we left, I had boils on my I

600
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: was in the.

601
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: My mom moved a mattress down into the living room,

602
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: and I didn't know if I manifested.

603
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: This just to get out of the right like thinking

604
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: in hindsight, I mean, but it wasn't.

605
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: My uncle Joe, who was nineteen twenty at the time,

606
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: as I said, developed had not traveled, developed malaria. What

607
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: at the same time as I had scarlet fever, and.

608
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: He he had his liver failed.

609
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: He was my god.

610
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was brought to an emergency like this is

611
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: a culmination of the Poultergeist things. You know when I

612
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: say things smashing, like I remember being at the kitchen

613
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: table eating cereal one morning and a jug being pushed

614
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: off of the counter and smashing on the floor, like

615
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: just like the movies.

616
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: Ross, I'm not kidding you.

617
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: You're the rest of your family, you know, your your

618
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: mom and your uncle. Did they how long until they

619
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: discovered that this stuff was happening?

620
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: Oh right away? It's yeah, like because six months.

621
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So the bedroom stuff with me, what it would

622
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: I imagine now because I was six at the time,

623
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: is things were happening with them downstairs, but they weren't

624
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 3: they We had no reck course, we you know, couldn't

625
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 3: move anywhere. You know, there was financial problems with my mom.

626
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: All of this, like it just went to Mayhem levels,

627
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: like there was my mom's bedroom was actually kind of

628
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: between living room and kitchen and had French doors with

629
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: glass inlay inside, and those like open and smashed in

630
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 3: on her and just a couple of the frames cracked,

631
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: but she was sleeping at the time and crash.

632
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: We all heard it, right, And you know, it's funny.

633
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: Why I stayed up in my room.

634
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: I do remember, and this is just memory stuff because

635
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't remember too well. But my mom would actually

636
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: I would come down. Of course, I'm a kid, right,

637
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: it would come down.

638
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: Please can I sleep with you and stuff? And she

639
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: would be like, no, get back to your room. And

640
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: I don't know why. That'll never have answered because my

641
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: kid would have slept with me every.

642
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: Minute of that experience, right, So I don't know why. Yeah,

643
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: that's a and she never was able to answer me.

644
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: I think guilt or whatever. So anyway, back to the

645
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: House of Death. It's the only house with the grass

646
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: grown up. There's cardboard in the windows still today.

647
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: There go my legs again, and the front staircase is

648
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: ripped off the house. It has no nose.

649
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: It is a sheer face so that no one can

650
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: enter that house. Somebody did that. I can even send

651
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: you a picture, Oz if you'd like one day. Yes,

652
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: then quickly, quickly we walk. My daughter can feel the

653
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: energy as well.

654
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: We walk around.

655
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: She's just fascinated, right, and I'm like, don't be too fascinated.

656
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: We walk around the alley to look. I want to

657
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: show her where my bedroom was, right for the story.

658
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: We look up and we see an old man with

659
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: a beard in the attic room.

660
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: A real old man or a creepy ghost old man.

661
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: It looked creepy ghost, but I'm thinking it was real,

662
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: like some sort of shut in in there.

663
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: But let's go with ghosts. Yeah, he was a little

664
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: CPF And I told it too fast.

665
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: I was going to build to that.

666
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you my daughter's side. There was somebody

667
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: in that.

668
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: Attic, and of course we know there were probably hundreds

669
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: of people in that attic.

670
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: So what's the story? What is that house?

671
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to find any history in the back.

672
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: There was tons of stuff in the backyard, some old hermit,

673
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: like that's what.

674
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: It looked like.

675
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: It looked like an old hermit, dude, But why was

676
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 3: he in the attic right at the time of what's

677
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: going to look at it?

678
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: If you were really pretty This is a.

679
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: Kind of decent area in Vancouver, right, and albeit families

680
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: and you know whatever, But like, that house looks like

681
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: an old what do you call it?

682
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: Horder lives there now?

683
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: Right?

684
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: But with no staircase in the front. Staircase in the

685
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 4: back was still on.

686
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: But the moment we turned around the corner, there's a

687
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: face in the attic.

688
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: Window and it's a little triangle window too.

689
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 5: Pretty good.

690
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: I feel like anytime I've heard a story like this

691
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: with like a house that has just so much activity

692
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: and so many, so many different ghosts, I feel like

693
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: the history usually ends up being that it was like

694
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: a mortuary or some kind of place where there was

695
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: a lot of.

696
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: Exactly and maybe even if that area was built up

697
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: from logging camps and stuff. As I said, it was

698
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: near the water and it's on the east side of Vancouver,

699
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: which is.

700
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: Built up. Now, who knows what that house was.

701
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: Built on even right, it could have been that there

702
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 3: was some sort of boarding like shot round shackled boarding

703
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: place before.

704
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've tried to look. I didn't look that.

705
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: Deeply, just looked into the history of the house, and

706
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: basically it hasn't been sold or because my mom rented

707
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: that house and it hasn't been sold since that time,

708
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: so whoever owned it still owns it, although it just

709
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: has one.

710
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 4: Of those numbers like a title number, no person listed.

711
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: So it's there. My god, this is a good one.

712
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. I'll ride Hello Kyle, Hello, I

713
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: know that you have like a bajillion ghost stories. You

714
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: have contributed quite a few to some lives, and what

715
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: should we get into. Which one should we talk about.

716
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: I feel like we should talk about the one that

717
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: I briefly mentioned in the email, about something that happened

718
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: when I was a little bitty baby and it kind

719
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: of scared but interested in my mom. I don't know

720
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 5: how to explain the story, like, but I'll just say it. So, okay,

721
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: what I was the firstborn in the family, and my

722
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: family has been living in the house, and they still

723
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: lived to the same house to this day since like

724
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty three. So my parents bought it when they

725
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 5: were really young, back when you know, you could afford

726
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: to buy houses. And this was I guess this is

727
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: a late nineties now or not late in the early nineties.

728
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 5: I was just I was only a couple of months old,

729
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 5: and my dad was gone away working in Ohio and

730
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: he was in a couple other states. He's traveling around

731
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 5: a lot, so my mom was home alone with me.

732
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: I had a rough kind of and this is context

733
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 5: of a story. I had a rough kind of couple

734
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: months of my life. I was born like really premature,

735
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 5: had some how stuff going on. So when I finally

736
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: came back home. My mom said that like, as soon

737
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: as I was brought into the home, like the air

738
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 5: or something felt kind of different. And it didn't feel

739
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 5: like bad or in like a negative way, but she

740
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 5: just felt like it wasn't just her always like hanging

741
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: around the house, if that makes sense. So she's at

742
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 5: home one afternoon with me. She put me down to sleep,

743
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: and she thought, well, I'm going to take a nap too.

744
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: You know, I'm really tired and there's no one else

745
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 5: to watch, so I'll just I'll take a quick nap

746
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: and then I'll wake up and continue the day. So

747
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: she goes to sleep, and she said she had the

748
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: strangest dream, and it was very vivid, and it was

749
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 5: like something that you'd almost have like during the middle

750
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 5: of the night, but this is like just during a nap.

751
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 5: And in the dream, she saw a little girl kind

752
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 5: of just standing in another room, but the room didn't

753
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 5: look like anything that she knew, and she was there

754
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 5: as well, and the girl just kept on looking at her,

755
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: and she wasn't really sure to take his dream. She's like, oh,

756
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: like there's a weird fever dream, what's going on kind

757
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 5: of thing? And then suddenly everything went white and she

758
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: just kind of felt like she was in this sort

759
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 5: of like white kind of void. And then she started

760
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: he caring mommy, mommy, the baby, the baby, and it

761
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: kept on repeating and repeating, and she started just getting

762
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: this feeling that like she had to wake up and

763
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 5: she had to go check on me, and she the

764
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: noises kept on kind of repeating, and she was finally

765
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 5: able to wake up, and when she did, she instantly

766
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: just had that kind of mother's instinct was like, I

767
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: have to go check on Kyle. So she ran into

768
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: the my room and I ended up somehow flipping over

769
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 5: and like face down and like my face right into

770
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: the mattress of the crib. And at that point she

771
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: kind of quickly flipped me over. And she was still

772
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 5: word to this day that she thought if she didn't

773
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: have that dream or she wasn't like notified that she

774
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 5: was wording, something bad was going to happen to me,

775
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 5: because you know, infants of that age, once they somehow

776
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: flip over, you know, they don't have the strength to

777
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 5: like roll themselves back mm hm. So that was that

778
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: was spooky for her. And then from then on she

779
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: had a bunch of other things happen, and it was

780
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 5: always usually when she was home along with me, So

781
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 5: like there was certain times where toys would randomly turn

782
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 5: on themselves. There was like a little cat toy that

783
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: you would wind up that one day it just randomly

784
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: turned on by itself and ended up from the top

785
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: shelf of the closet down onto the floor of the

786
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 5: closet and it was just spinning around in circles, going

787
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 5: around and around. So that was kind of spooky, and

788
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: that was Yeah, that was that kind of story. And

789
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: I have a bunch more too, But.

790
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: So what do you think you does anybody have a

791
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: theory on what was going on?

792
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: You know what? I feel like my family has just

793
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: kind of concluded that this is just some sort of

794
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: female spirit that for whatever reason, is attached to the

795
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 5: house or attached to the land, because you know, I

796
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 5: would say maybe it's the house, because you you know,

797
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: usually go spirits might attach themselves to a house if

798
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 5: it's older. But this is in like a quieter subdivision

799
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: that was built in like the seventies, so not even

800
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 5: really fifteen years before they moved in. But if you

801
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 5: look into the history of that part of Canada and stuff.

802
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: There's lots of history, and that whole area was very

803
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: big for like farmers back in the eighteen hundred. Side

804
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: established himself there and bought land, So we wondered, is

805
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 5: that something to do with it. There's no really history

806
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 5: of anything kind of weird going on in the house.

807
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: There's only one person that lived there prior, and I

808
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: was a mid aged woman that was single and she

809
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 5: just ended up moving. I think it's just some sort

810
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 5: of spirit of a girl that's attached herself to the

811
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 5: family and maybe more specifically to me, because my mom

812
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: is convinced that it's the whole thing that like I

813
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: was the first born. I was the first child that

814
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 5: kind of showed up in the house. So for whatever

815
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 5: he is in the spirit showed interest in me and

816
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: was like, oh, there's like, you know, there's a here.

817
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I feel like that's what it is.

818
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: It's never been harmful.

819
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: So she was like, how long did you guys live there?

820
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: I lived there all my life, so like I lived

821
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: there from like the time I was born, and then

822
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 5: I moved out in my early twenties and my parents

823
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 5: are still there, and my parents could tell you there's

824
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: still stuff that goes on, or they still kind of

825
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 5: feel at set of presence.

826
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Really, so like, yeah, what are some more stories about

827
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: this house.

828
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 5: I can tell one of my ones about seeing who

829
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 5: I think is Tara. So she got this name apparently

830
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: from me when I was like three to four years old,

831
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: because I'd be playing in my room and it's this

832
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: very typical story that you hear a lot, but I

833
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: was playing in my room and I'd always be talking

834
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: to someone that wasn't there and just having hood of

835
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 5: a time, having fun, and my mom would be like, Oky,

836
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: who you talking to? And I'd say, Oh, you're not

837
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: Tara's here. We're playing this, so we're doing that, and

838
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: you know, typical parents like, oh, it's just an imaginary

839
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: friend or whatever. But my mom like sort of believe that.

840
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 5: But also because from that one experience when I was

841
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: a baby and then some of the other things moving around,

842
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: she thought, well, maybe he does actually see something I can't.

843
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: But where would you get that name from? Were you

844
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: a Tara Reid fan?

845
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't. I don't think so. I ain't a

846
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 5: Tara Reed fan now, so I don't think that's a translation.

847
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 5: I don't know, right, And That's that's the strange thing.

848
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: It's like, how does a kid just like come up

849
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: with this name and be so confident and saying, oh,

850
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: this is Tara. It's like I would think it's because

851
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 5: she told me, right, or that's.

852
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: What I would think.

853
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: She said, my name is Tara. Needed to let everyone

854
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 5: know that. Yeah, but yeah, going back to a couple

855
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: of times I've seen her, and it's always it's always

856
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: that night.

857
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: And.

858
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 5: So how old was I? Oh, gosh, I'd maybe be

859
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 5: like this is a very very first time. I'd probably

860
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 5: be like ten eleven. I remember going to bed, and

861
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: I remember like nothing was out of the ordinary, and

862
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: I woke up because I'm a light sleeper, literally like

863
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: the door could open and I'd be like wide away,

864
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: be like what's going on. I suddenly woke up and

865
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: I felt like someone was in the room with me,

866
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 5: and I was kind of facing like out towards her.

867
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 5: Like I had a really really long dresser and then

868
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: I really tall dressers, almost like a whole section of

869
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: the bedroom. Anyways, I kind of like looked up at

870
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: the dresser and there's a little girl just sitting there

871
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 5: on the dresser, and again it was tall enough where

872
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: like her feet were kind of like dangling. She didn't

873
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 5: look that old, and she was just like looking at me,

874
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: and I was obviously so scared, but I was like, oh,

875
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: maybe I'm just dreaming. It's like I closed my eyes

876
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: and opened my eyes again and she was still there.

877
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: So that's supposed to work.

878
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: It was supposed to work. So I instantly just kind

879
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 5: of like did the typical like I'm going to turn

880
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 5: and face the other way now. And the weirdest thing

881
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 5: was is again, this would just continue to happen like this.

882
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: That was the first time, and I thought, oh yeah,

883
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 5: I wasn't convinced obviously. At first. I was like, this

884
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 5: is just a dream, I'm seeing things whatever, And I'm

885
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 5: gonna happened second time not too much long after that,

886
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 5: and it's literally basically the same thing. But that time,

887
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: the second time I saw her is I saw her

888
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 5: in a bean bag chair in the corner in my

889
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 5: bedroom and she was just like sitting in the bean

890
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 5: bag chair and my eyes. I was like, I'm gonna

891
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: close my eyes and like open them. She's gonna be gone, right, No,

892
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: she's still there. Wait a minute.

893
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: So when somebody's it's in a bean bag chair. It

894
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of like morphs around them. Did it like do

895
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: that or was she like floating on it?

896
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: It looked like she was like sitting in it, like

897
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 5: like morphed in like just I wait to her. Yeah,

898
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: And that was spooky still too. I was like, well,

899
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: how does she do that? Right? Because you think of

900
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: a ghost like, oh, you know, they're not going to

901
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: actually take form like a human or whatever. And you know,

902
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: like I it sounds kind of contradicting where you like,

903
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: I think it's good to question yourself sometimes. So like

904
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: I think for the most part, that probably was her.

905
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: Do I do I think every single time you know,

906
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: I saw her? Because I've probably had that sort of

907
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 5: same situation multi like at least five six times. Do

908
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: I think every single time you know it was actually her?

909
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 5: Where was? I kind of tricky myself. I don't know right,

910
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: like it's possible, but I think it was actually her?

911
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: You know?

912
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: So did anyone else ever see her? My mom's seen

913
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 5: her a few times, and that was usually when again

914
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: she'd be home alone or have the kids, because you know,

915
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 5: a year and a half after I was born, my

916
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: one brother was born, so like even then she would

917
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: still a lot of times she would see the typical

918
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 5: like just kind of like a shadow or like movement,

919
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 5: either like in the corner of her eye or a

920
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: lot of times she would go downstairs where all the

921
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 5: kids toys were. She told me this actually a couple

922
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 5: of days ago. There was one time she went down

923
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 5: to the basement and there's a bunch of toys, that's

924
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 5: where all the kids hung out whatever. And as she

925
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: went down the stairs, like when you kind of go

926
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: eye level, there'd be all the toys and stuff, and

927
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: then there we had a big, huge, like sectional. She

928
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 5: saw like a movement and it looked like this like

929
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: kind of an apparition of a small kid kind of

930
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 5: like run behind because we had all these like big

931
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 5: like car toy sets and we had like a it's

932
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 5: like that sounds so stupid, like a ball pit thing

933
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: with all these like balls and stuff, you know, for

934
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 5: like two year olds, and like it was shaped like

935
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 5: a Teddy bear, and she I saw like something like

936
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 5: run from behind, like that kind of floating ball set thing,

937
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 5: and like run and kind of go towards like get

938
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 5: a bar. But like in order to see where this

939
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 5: you know, shadow wherever went, you would have to kind

940
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: of turn your body quickly and like really kind of

941
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 5: look to the right. But by the time she had

942
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 5: to look there, there's nothing there. So lots of things

943
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 5: like that, right, So a lot of things like just

944
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 5: seeing like little literally little apparitions just kind of running here,

945
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 5: going here, doing that. And I mentioned in an email

946
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: my family's super strong believers of all this stuff. So

947
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 5: he would ask her and be like, well, were you scared,

948
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 5: And eventually she's like no, She's like, I just knew

949
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 5: she was here. I didn't bug her, she didn't bug me,

950
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 5: so we just left it at the So you think.

951
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: It's just one spirit, there's not multiple.

952
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 5: I personally think there's multiple because I've seen more like

953
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 5: the apparition of like a like a an older woman

954
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 5: I guess not older, but like mid aged someone who's

955
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 5: grown up. So I think it's multiple because I've seen

956
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 5: her one time.

957
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: Or it could be that thing that I was talking

958
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: to Amy Bruney about, like it could be like a

959
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: woman that also lives as like a child at times,

960
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: like she manifests in that oh ye, in that headspace

961
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: or something. You know, it could it could all be

962
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: the same, but who knows.

963
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 5: That's a good point. It very well could be. Maybe

964
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: for some reason she had strong ties and memories to

965
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 5: being a child in that times in our you know,

966
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: in order to interact with the kids, she would take

967
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: that form. That's a really good point. I never thought

968
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 5: of that because I mentioned it on stereo before. But

969
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: I did see her like two years ago when I

970
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 5: came back to visit my parents. And that's a whole

971
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: thing too, right, because a lot of times when I

972
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: go back to my parents' house, I always feel that

973
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: sort of presence, and that's when I usually always see something.

974
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 5: I don't really see things as much like where I

975
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: live now or whatever. It's it's always when I go

976
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 5: back to that location, do I like feel different and

977
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 5: see different things.

978
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: What was it like when you saw her when you

979
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: went back.

980
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like two years ago, she I was doing dishes

981
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: and there's a window like right in front of like

982
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: the saint and if you look at it, there's like

983
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: reflections of the wrestle of the house, so like you

984
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: can see the one like hallway to the front door,

985
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 5: like you can see like parts of like other spaces. Anyways,

986
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: like I do this silly thing where sometimes when I'm

987
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: home alone or I go back and visit, I'll sort

988
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 5: of like talk out into the open and if something

989
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: wants to respond or whatever, you know, I'm open to

990
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 5: letting it do that. So I said something down the

991
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 5: lines of, you know, I haven't visited for like a while.

992
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 5: I had I had a time whe I didn't really

993
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 5: go back to see my parents for like almost a year.

994
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: So and this was then, and I said, you know,

995
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: I haven't visited in a while, but I'm happy to

996
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 5: be back and I hope things are okay in the house. Basically,

997
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: as soon as I said that, I felt like a

998
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 5: woman's hand kind of brushed the back of my neck

999
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: and kind of run along my left shoulder. And I

1000
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: could tell it was a woman because she had like

1001
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: it felt like nails, right, that sort of feeling if

1002
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: someone kind of like brushed at the top of their

1003
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: you know, freshly done nails on the top, like on

1004
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: the back of neck. So I felt that, and I

1005
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: looked back and I saw like the apparition of a

1006
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 5: woman standing kind of in the hallway, and that was interesting.

1007
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 5: It did definitely see a different woman. Yeah, well, I'm

1008
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: honestly that one theory you mentioned about maybe it's just

1009
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 5: one spear that kind of manifests itself in different forms

1010
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: because it wasn't a clear enough apparition where I could

1011
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 5: see facial features and stuff, right, Like, it was more

1012
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: that kind of typical like why people say like like

1013
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 5: a shadow person or like I couldn't really make much

1014
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 5: details out, but I could tell that it was probably

1015
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 5: a woman and maybe her like twenties thirties, not overly tall,

1016
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: but you could tell there was a shape of an

1017
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 5: adult woman.

1018
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Could you see clothes?

1019
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: You know, it was more kind of drogynous. It didn't

1020
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 5: really I couldn't tell like if she was wearing a

1021
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: dress or whatever. I assumed like that they were wearing pants. Again,

1022
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: it was just very like almost like an outline like

1023
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 5: a silhouette. Like there wasn't really too much actual features

1024
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 5: just besides that, I don't know, I could tell, like

1025
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 5: there's a little more curvature like in the hip and stuff,

1026
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 5: so it looked more like a female.

1027
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: Body because that gorgeous nails with.

1028
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 5: Gorgeous nails, yeah, because I definitely felt those and that

1029
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: was like, honestly, the cut, like the nails thing was

1030
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: more freaking than actually like seeing the apparition, right like

1031
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 5: I'm not ready for someone to just suddenly like touch

1032
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: the back of my neck. I don't want people touching

1033
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 5: the back of my neck with or without a good

1034
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 5: nail set on.

1035
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: So right.

1036
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Natalie Hez and Kyle. I

1037
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: had so much fun talking to them. And if you

1038
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Speaker 1: want to hear me talk more with Kyle about a

1039
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: little premonition story that happened in their family, go to

1040
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Speaker 1: do shows on the first tier of my Patreon as well.

1044
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