Speaker 1: Touts do cow wha, It's time for the Happy half Hour,
Speaker 1: presented by Southern Star, an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: A good quarterback can thrive in chaos. A great quarterback
Speaker 2: can slow down time to negate the chaos altogether. There's
Speaker 2: a moment before the ball is snapped, when everything is still.
Speaker 2: That's when the quarterback assesses everything around him, who is where,
Speaker 2: who is rushing? Who is his best matchup. When the
Speaker 2: ball is snapped, twenty two pieces are thrown into the
Speaker 2: air and the passer has a finite amount of time
Speaker 2: to put it back together. Dave ca Analysis made a
Speaker 2: career out of helping a quarterback slow down that time,
Speaker 2: put the pieces back together with ease, and make the
Speaker 2: best decisions in the quickest window possible. Throughout his career,
Speaker 2: he's analyzed film and practices and the best of the
Speaker 2: best in the game to determine if a quarterback can
Speaker 2: get the ball out in two point seven seconds, he
Speaker 2: has the best chance of making the right decision and
Speaker 2: lowering the risk of turnovers. Canalysus spent this off season
Speaker 2: thus far helping quarterback Bryce Shaw and get his throwing
Speaker 2: time down to that two point seven seconds, but of
Speaker 2: course it's easier said than done. To understand the intricacies
Speaker 2: of the challenge, The Happy Half Hour spoke to former
Speaker 2: Carolina Panther safety Eugene Robinson to find out how a
Speaker 2: sub three second throw changes the defensive game plan and
Speaker 2: what a quarterback can do to negate a secondary. I
Speaker 2: guess off the top, if the ball is out in
Speaker 2: two point seven seconds. As a safety, have you even
Speaker 2: had time to get in a position.
Speaker 3: Yes, you still have time to get a position, because
Speaker 3: you're always moving into position from every position, whether they're
Speaker 3: a corner nickel, you're either in man and man coverags,
Speaker 3: or you're in years alle. And you reason why we
Speaker 3: say two point eight seconds two point seven seconds you
Speaker 3: will get the ball off because anything after that and
Speaker 3: typically right around three point two seconds, you're stacked. So
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that you get the ball
Speaker 3: off quickly. And that's why the West Coast offense was
Speaker 3: really proficient at getting the ball out very, very quickly,
Speaker 3: so that your defense doesn't have a chance to start up,
Speaker 3: but it gives your offense a chance to go ahead
Speaker 3: and not only get the ball out quickly, but manipulate
Speaker 3: the defense by keeping them off balanced because the ball,
Speaker 3: when it comes out fast, you don't have time enough
Speaker 3: to get really in great position or the almost ideal position.
Speaker 3: And also that the receiver has somewhat of a tactical
Speaker 3: advantage because once they get out of the break, if
Speaker 3: the ball's right there, boom, it's right on top of
Speaker 3: them before the defensive back has a chance to respond.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the West Coast offense, is someone like Steve Young,
Speaker 2: maybe one of the best of his time, to have
Speaker 2: gotten it out quickly. Bret farrs, Okay. That was my
Speaker 2: next question was who is the of the quarterbacks you
Speaker 2: face tu gets hit out the fastest.
Speaker 3: Montano, all of whom played in the West Coast offense
Speaker 3: under Bill Walsh at one point and then Mike Hongram.
Speaker 3: They have a legacy of quarterbacks coach, Moots Barrioti, a
Speaker 3: number of quarterbacks coaches who coach that system. Even the
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers back in the eighties they had that same
Speaker 3: West Coast system that they employed where the ball was
Speaker 3: coming out uried very quickly, and so that's really Germane
Speaker 3: to the West Coast office of reading quickly and getting
Speaker 3: the ball out. You have your options even at two
Speaker 3: point eight seconds, seven seconds, you know you can run
Speaker 3: a sprint right opson, which is a favorite play if
Speaker 3: they're running the wet red zone for the West Coast offense,
Speaker 3: which has a guy running out to a flat and
Speaker 3: then a guy curling behind the guy run out to
Speaker 3: a flat. And now the quarterback is just reading which
Speaker 3: guy you're gonna cover. You're onna cover guy the curl
Speaker 3: You're coming guy in the flat. You can't come on both,
Speaker 3: and so the balls coming out very very quickly. It's
Speaker 3: because it creates a mismatch so that you don't have
Speaker 3: time enough to respond.
Speaker 2: So kind of along those same lines, if you're a defense,
Speaker 2: how do you have to change your game plan for
Speaker 2: a quarterback who who you know is going to majority
Speaker 2: of the time throw in less than three seconds.
Speaker 4: You gotta have some dogs up from dogs look from like.
Speaker 3: I would tell for when we would playing the West
Speaker 3: Coast offense the San Francisco forty nine ers when I
Speaker 3: played for Green Bay.
Speaker 4: I'm telling my dudes, Reggie White, I'm telling.
Speaker 3: Gilbert, Hey, dude, I need you to get to the
Speaker 3: quarterback man, disrupt his rivers, get in his face, put
Speaker 3: your hands up, baby.
Speaker 4: I need to do all.
Speaker 3: That I said, because if you could disrupt his timing,
Speaker 3: you not only disrupt his timing, but you disrupt the
Speaker 3: timing of the route combinations. You disrupted everything. So if
Speaker 3: you get any push at all, any push at all,
Speaker 3: and I face the quarterback, you've just messed the quarterback up.
Speaker 3: That's why your offensive line has to do a great
Speaker 3: job of losing slowly before the defense.
Speaker 4: Gets to the quarterback. And so.
Speaker 3: I tell my guy defensively, I'm going to get a
Speaker 3: good quarterback. Steve Young, Joe Montana, Hey, man, keep your
Speaker 3: hands up. The boss coming out quick, but put your
Speaker 3: hands up because you might get a knockdown.
Speaker 4: You possibly could get a knockdown, or you may disrupt
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 3: Don't forget this all works in concert of the offensive
Speaker 3: line being to hold that defensive line back. And if
Speaker 3: and if you're having problems, then you have to blitch
Speaker 3: the quarterback a little bit more.
Speaker 4: And then you expose the guy on the outside and
Speaker 4: man and man covered.
Speaker 3: So you know you've got a great receiver and Jerry Rice,
Speaker 3: you're exposing him to a lesser corner and you're blissing. Well,
Speaker 3: guess what advantage San Francisco before the nine is with
Speaker 3: Jerry Rice and Steve Younger or Joe Montanna.
Speaker 2: So like most things with football comes back to a
Speaker 2: battle of the trenches.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, it always comes down to that.
Speaker 3: But I understand why coach Canalis wants to get the
Speaker 3: ball off quickly. Because he's able to get the ball
Speaker 3: off quickly, you're going to keep the defense off balance
Speaker 3: and you're going to get that defense tired because the
Speaker 3: defensive line.
Speaker 4: I said, hey man, we're trying to get to him.
Speaker 4: We can't get to him. Well, man, that's a big problem.
Speaker 4: You can't get to him.
Speaker 3: Now you're in a somewhat of perfore minute office, perman
Speaker 3: in office, and you moving down a field. You can't
Speaker 3: get your guys off the field, and now they're tired,
Speaker 3: and now they're getting your head.
Speaker 2: Ben sort of hand in hand with that subject, I
Speaker 2: guess the part B of it give us a little
Speaker 2: opposition research here. If you're a secondary, what can you
Speaker 2: do to force a quarterback that has designed short throws
Speaker 2: or you know, routes to get it out quickly. What
Speaker 2: can you do to sort of mess him up? From
Speaker 2: the secondary point of view, The.
Speaker 3: Very first thing you want to do is call it
Speaker 3: window dressing or where you're gonna blitz or fake the blitzer,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have guys that's in the face of
Speaker 3: the quarterback and we're gonna have a mug up in
Speaker 3: the a GaX the linebackers and let him know that Hey,
Speaker 3: we're coming and we're blitzing off the edge, or we're
Speaker 3: gonna have more guys than you can you can go
Speaker 3: ahead and protect. So now you're gonna force the ball
Speaker 3: to come out soon, but not as soon as as
Speaker 3: you want it, because now you're limited.
Speaker 4: For some of the.
Speaker 3: Rocks that took a run. You gotta run a go,
Speaker 3: You gotta run a post, you gotta run a fade.
Speaker 3: You gotta run something very very quick that matches the
Speaker 3: defense with who of the onslaught of the the rushed
Speaker 3: by the defense.
Speaker 4: So the first thing I'm gonna tell it, Hey, we're
Speaker 4: gonna get the ball out of the guy's hand.
Speaker 3: We're gonna blitters, dude, and we're gonna run our games
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get in his face, and we want
Speaker 3: to let them know that we're coming every single time
Speaker 3: now to counter that. If your offensive line is really
Speaker 3: good and able to pick up the.
Speaker 4: Stunts and those blitters. You've now just made.
Speaker 3: That receive a little of that cornerback vulnerable a receiver,
Speaker 3: and if you have a receiver as a top knots guy, well,
Speaker 3: guess what now, that's the fifty fifty ball. That guy
Speaker 3: typically can win. That he can that he can win that.
Speaker 3: That's Jerry Rice, that's Randy Moss. Or guess what he
Speaker 3: might most likely he may win that. That's Kelvin Johnson,
Speaker 3: Larry Fist, Darryl Steve Largin went on what he don't
Speaker 3: probably win that battle because you blitched, and now that
Speaker 3: you're exposing your your maybe your corner or exposing a
Speaker 3: part of your defense until you don't want to expose.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: That actually kind of led to my next question was
Speaker 2: if you're if you're promising a blizz, does that leave
Speaker 2: a Is that a risk reward game you're playing there.
Speaker 4: It's always a risk reward.
Speaker 3: You're always trying to go ahead and bitz and get
Speaker 3: the quarterback off his spot.
Speaker 4: We try to get Drew Brees off his spot.
Speaker 3: What does that mean when he sets up on his
Speaker 3: three step drop, one step drop, five step drop, I
Speaker 3: know the ball's coming out not the seven, but the
Speaker 3: one three five when he steps up, if you got
Speaker 3: him to move in a position where he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to move out, you've now disrupted to play.
Speaker 2: And that move could take the timing from two point
Speaker 2: seven to three point two.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if you anytime you over three secondes, typically your
Speaker 3: quarterback is stuck. Unless you've got Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 3: Steve Young. You know you got a running quarterback who
Speaker 3: can Michael Vick, who can extend the pockets and extend
Speaker 3: things you mentioned.
Speaker 2: You know a list of all stars, a list of
Speaker 2: Hall of famers that got the ball out quick during
Speaker 2: your playing time. But have you seen the game just
Speaker 2: as as an observer, as an analyst, as a fan.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the game get faster as time has
Speaker 2: gone on.
Speaker 4: I don't think the game has gotten faster.
Speaker 3: I think that the rules of change, well yes or no,
Speaker 3: the rules of change a lot the a lot of
Speaker 3: game to appear to be faster because you can't gym
Speaker 3: I can't gym a and getting his face. I have
Speaker 3: to do it within five yards and you got to
Speaker 3: be careful how you do it. I can't tackle a
Speaker 3: guy and play some smash my football and make you
Speaker 3: think about coming across the middle without drawing a penalty
Speaker 3: that says I was targeting, or I hit you in
Speaker 3: a way that was you know, was compromising. I can't
Speaker 3: stack the quarterback the way I was stacked the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Guess what, my big.
Speaker 3: Guy who wear a three ten three fifteen, Regie White,
Speaker 3: you got to put him down legitly where you don't
Speaker 3: put all your.
Speaker 4: Weight on them when you make that tackle.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying to you is that the game
Speaker 3: is favorite the offense side of.
Speaker 4: The ball to go ahead and score more points and
Speaker 4: stay healthy, of course, but to score more points.
Speaker 3: Because you can't you can't harass the receiver as you
Speaker 3: used to be doing doing the past. And so from
Speaker 3: that standpoint, the game has gotten much faster.
Speaker 2: So by sort of slowing down time for the offense,
Speaker 2: it speeds it up the defense.
Speaker 3: Yes, by but because here and once again Cassie, it
Speaker 3: is if I can't jam the receiver and really get
Speaker 3: at them the real beaver style, Dave Brown, melt Blunt,
Speaker 3: Mike Haynes. Now let's the haze, and who would just
Speaker 3: dog you, put their hands on you and just maul you.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I can't do that, then you have
Speaker 3: some of of a tactical advantage to run your route
Speaker 3: with a little freedom.
Speaker 4: Not being harassed. You know, there was a.
Speaker 3: Time when the receiver could come across the middle of
Speaker 3: the field in his route on those little dry gross underneath,
Speaker 3: and we'll tell the linebacker, hey, man, that dude comes
Speaker 3: across heads you go on to the other side, your
Speaker 3: brick his face. Dude, hit that dude across he's under
Speaker 3: five yards.
Speaker 4: Hit that dude hit a wall. M make him think
Speaker 4: of that. He better not come across there.
Speaker 3: He better go ahead and get the five stick seven
Speaker 3: yards and run behind you. But if he comes underneath you, dude,
Speaker 3: knock him out. So we will say stuff like that
Speaker 3: because even if as a calculator route the ball can
Speaker 3: come out very quickly.
Speaker 4: He can get to a guy.
Speaker 3: But we got a guy like a Luke Keikley, or
Speaker 3: you got Ray Lewis down there dropping down there, You're
Speaker 3: gonna think twice about going across the middle. But if
Speaker 3: he has a chance to go to hit you. So
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you is that the ruth of chains
Speaker 3: and lacks a lot where Now that I think there's
Speaker 3: much more of an advantage for the offense to have
Speaker 3: the freedom to go ahead and play fast.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Have you been able to kind of see Bryce any
Speaker 2: of this off season, maybe at an ota or mini
Speaker 2: camp practice.
Speaker 3: No, But let me give you my assessment of Bryce.
Speaker 3: I thought that Bryce was able to get the ball
Speaker 3: out quickly. I thought that he struggled. When he's starting
Speaker 3: to struggle is because the office of lives ot to struggle.
Speaker 3: And when the office of lines started to struggle, and
Speaker 3: you got your quarterback kind of moving trying to find
Speaker 3: the throwing layers, and you're in trouble because now you're
Speaker 3: off a spot. That dude is accomplished. Make no mistake,
Speaker 3: Brush Young can throw the rock. And I'm not telling
Speaker 3: you as a fan of the Packers. I'm telling you
Speaker 3: as a free safety who study quarterbacks for living. We
Speaker 3: got fifty seven interceptions, actually sixty two. I'm telling you
Speaker 3: that dude will do.
Speaker 4: He the real deal. He the real deal. He does
Speaker 4: get the he can get the ball out quickly.
Speaker 3: He's accurate, he moves well, and he doesn't take like
Speaker 3: he doesn't get bat at balls down.
Speaker 4: That means he's finding.
Speaker 3: In the throat lane and he throws the receiver open
Speaker 3: like he's supposed to do. And so I thought, what
Speaker 3: happened to him last year, is that a lot of
Speaker 3: that stuff that we saw that, Oh, now, this guy's
Speaker 3: gonna be really, really good. I thought it degraded over
Speaker 3: time because the office of Line was not in a
Speaker 3: situation where they were healthy and where they could go
Speaker 3: ahead and protect the quarterback. And if you can't protect
Speaker 3: your quarterback, I don't care if you got Drew Brees,
Speaker 3: I don't care if you got John l Way, Damn Marino.
Speaker 3: I don't care what quarterbacks back, then it matter, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, It won't matter at all.
Speaker 4: If you can't protect your.
Speaker 3: Quarterback, your quarterback are victim me, Roethlisberger, Brady, you inserting
Speaker 3: your name here, whatever quarterback you think is the best
Speaker 3: quarterback who's ever played the game, and serve his name there.
Speaker 4: With a poor line, he's gonna get his head busted.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, they definitely put one hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: shorts that line this offseason, so I would.
Speaker 3: And that's what they need, and that's what I thought,
Speaker 3: what they needed. You got to show up the line
Speaker 3: because the talent you had in Bryce Young and people
Speaker 3: will compare them to oh, we still got c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's still the right choice. I think
Speaker 3: he's still he's durable. He saw that he could take
Speaker 3: a hit. He's taking many hits. You can tell you
Speaker 3: can take a hit. But he's active with the rock.
Speaker 3: He throws the ball really really well. He throws you open.
Speaker 3: He just needs to get the ball out a little
Speaker 3: bit quicker. And he gotta have those dogs on the
Speaker 3: other end catching that rock. I would love him to
Speaker 3: have an Olson. I would love him to have an Olson.
Speaker 3: I would love him having Steve Smith. Look at that
Speaker 3: kind of Steve Smith and then Olcin what.
Speaker 4: Please he give me.
Speaker 3: That cat, that type of that type of dog in him.
Speaker 3: I'm a Simmahammed with dog in.
Speaker 4: Him, right please.
Speaker 2: That's what Dan Morgan has said all off season. He
Speaker 2: wants is some dogs.
Speaker 4: So you get that cat with.
Speaker 3: Them dogs and like that a Wesley wall a Greg
Speaker 3: Olsen as well as he drugged Rotten and catches the rocks,
Speaker 3: and then a STEEVEE.
Speaker 4: Smith. I'm on simer hammed straight dog puts you in
Speaker 4: the mouth. Don't make no apologies.
Speaker 3: You better get with him, You better go try to
Speaker 3: stop him, and you better ice up some cats coming
Speaker 3: with it. You give him Bryce Young that type of don't,
Speaker 3: don't that type of play, And that's what I was
Speaker 3: hoping last year that those receivers would step up, because
Speaker 3: that was a great opportunity in my opinion, to go
Speaker 3: ahead and steeze control of the receiving spot and let
Speaker 3: everybody know that you're here to stay.
Speaker 4: And that's the guy.
Speaker 2: Well, he did get a receiver this off season that
Speaker 2: is top in the league and creating separations. So we'll
Speaker 2: see how big of a difference that makes. Having Deontay
Speaker 2: Johnson on the field too.
Speaker 4: Whether you're playing mando man or whether you're playing zone.
Speaker 3: In the zone, when you get the ball out quickly,
Speaker 3: that coach finalis is going to go ahead and design
Speaker 3: the spots where it comes, whether receiver can get open
Speaker 3: so he can get in between the safety and the
Speaker 3: linebacker or or or the nickel he can get in there,
Speaker 3: and final those little gas hits the ball coming out
Speaker 3: quickly where you find those gays when it comes to
Speaker 3: mandom man, even as though the guy's on you, the
Speaker 3: ball's coming out quickly. Typically the defensive back has his
Speaker 3: back to the receiver to the ball.
Speaker 4: So now he has his back to the ball.
Speaker 3: And mandom Man, Now you've got an advantage from the
Speaker 3: fact that the receiver can see the ball if it
Speaker 3: comes out quickly, and you can't.
Speaker 2: On that subject, and the zone kind of lends itself
Speaker 2: to more turnovers at times, just given you know the fact,
Speaker 2: like you said, that you're looking at the ball. Does
Speaker 2: it coming out quicker negate some of those turnovers or
Speaker 2: is that just does it matter one way or the other?
Speaker 3: The what what I thought Bryce got into the this
Speaker 3: was what I thought that Bryce's got into the habit
Speaker 3: in trouble of last year because he was getting hit
Speaker 3: a little bit too often. Is now he's staring down receivers.
Speaker 3: So now when you know his own defense and you're
Speaker 3: staring down the receiver that's running a slant, you know
Speaker 3: that he's gonna throw the ball there. Well, guess what,
Speaker 3: based on your film, Studden, You're like, all right, abody
Speaker 3: gonna take a chance. He's gonna stare down as a receiver,
Speaker 3: I might gonna go in there and get me an
Speaker 3: easy pick. As a matter of fact, as a free Steny,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, hey, this is what I need
Speaker 3: to do. I mean he's stared at receiver that take
Speaker 3: take a chance and take a chance of picking the ball,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna come over the top and I'll play
Speaker 3: anything just in case something. So yeah, So part of
Speaker 3: it is scarcity is that he was staring down some
Speaker 3: of the receivers because now he's trying to.
Speaker 4: Get the ball out quickly. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does make sense.
Speaker 3: And so now you if you're holding on too long,
Speaker 3: you're even gonna get shat. And now you're gonna bring
Speaker 3: the safety or you're gonna bring other people into play
Speaker 3: to help. They could play on the ball.
Speaker 2: Right do you think because of that and just because
Speaker 2: of maybe the tape of how last year ended, you
Speaker 2: see defenses come out at the beginning of the year
Speaker 2: and play a little more zone and if that is
Speaker 2: the case, you know, again, give us a little opposition research.
Speaker 2: How do you take advantage of it? If you're Canalis
Speaker 2: and Bryce Young?
Speaker 4: So I think what defense is gonna come out and do?
Speaker 3: And they're gonna play a lot of games with the
Speaker 3: whatever defense they're playing a three four four to three,
Speaker 3: because you're gonna see a lot of games to confuse
Speaker 3: because what I thought our offensive line struggled with. They
Speaker 3: struggled with games, but I mean by games, it's a
Speaker 3: different stunts employed by the defensive line and the linebackers.
Speaker 3: And because of that, now it's something that appears like
Speaker 3: as a six man of rush is actually a four
Speaker 3: man of rush and your quarterbacks getting stacked.
Speaker 4: Something that appears to a four man rush.
Speaker 3: Is actually six man rush and your or five man
Speaker 3: rush and your quarterbacks getting stacked, or he's throwing the
Speaker 3: ball in the ground or he has to eat it.
Speaker 3: He has to do stuff to throw the ball away.
Speaker 3: Because of the games. So what I think that coach
Speaker 3: ca Dallas is gonna see, because that was prevalent last year,
Speaker 3: is that too many teams ran games unless that compromised
Speaker 3: Our left tackle in the left guard mom was pretty good.
Speaker 4: Icky struggled, I thought, and because of those games.
Speaker 3: Because of those games, you used to expect that coming
Speaker 3: up this season, along with the blisters, to get Bryce
Speaker 3: to go ahead and to get him off the spot,
Speaker 3: but to make him throw the ball when he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to throw the ball, and to uh to sack
Speaker 3: him and to punish him. So I think you're going
Speaker 3: to see people getting in the face eight man front
Speaker 3: getting in the face and that word with a zone
Speaker 3: a man, but just trying to confuse the office alive
Speaker 3: because they struggled with games.
Speaker 2: Uh, Eugene, thank you for your time. This has been
Speaker 2: incredible and really interesting just to kind of hear from
Speaker 2: a defensive point of view what getting that ball out
Speaker 2: so quickly can do to a game plan. Thank you
Speaker 2: to Eugene for his time and insight. Over the next
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