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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by Draft Kings. The streak

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Speaker 1: is over, Garrett. This is not a size them up

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Speaker 1: preseason pod. The streak is over. Twenty nine to twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens lost the Commanders twenty four games. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the record books for the Ravens preseason streak.

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Speaker 1: Are you sad? What are your emotions right now?

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Speaker 2: I liked the streak, and I think at the end

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Speaker 2: of it you could feel the excitement of it. The

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Speaker 2: end of that.

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Speaker 1: Game, like a fan of the streak, big fan.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the game, like it felt like

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Speaker 2: a real game, you know, it didn't feel like a

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Speaker 2: preseason meaningless game, like they were strategy. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: was kind of funny. Even during the broadcast Trake made

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Speaker 2: at one point Joe Buck, They're like, Yay, Normally I'm

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Speaker 2: grabbing my briefcase aheading for the car and try to

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Speaker 2: be the traffic and in this game, I'm breaking down

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Speaker 2: strategy and timeouts and all that at the end of

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Speaker 2: a game. And I think they just kind of like it.

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Speaker 2: At the end of that game, in particular, you could

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Speaker 2: tell the poth teams really wanted to win, So I

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Speaker 2: mean I'm a little disappointed. I'm not gonna be I

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Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna lose any sleep tonight over the

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Speaker 2: Lost Street. But it was a fun talking point over

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Speaker 2: these preseason games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun while it lastid And like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens wanted to keep it going. They

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Speaker 1: of course they did, right, They didn't want to see

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Speaker 1: it end, right, You like to win. And I think

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Speaker 1: it meant It meant something to them for sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it meant something to the players that were part

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Speaker 1: of it. As John Harvall has said, and it's always

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Speaker 1: said something about who the Ravens are as a team, right,

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Speaker 1: They're a team that plays hard no matter what the

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Speaker 1: stakes are. They draft well, they develop well, they're deep,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they're they're competitive. They're just winners, you know.

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Speaker 1: And like it's always says for whoever one's knocking about

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything. Well, you know, being a deep

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Speaker 1: team does mean something when it comes to winning regular

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Speaker 1: seeing season games. And like maybe it doesn't. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything when it comes to whatever. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't count for a win in the regular seasons standings,

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Speaker 1: but like it means something, and it says something has

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Speaker 1: said something about the Ravens, and I'll tell you who

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Speaker 1: it definitely meant something too. That's the Washington commanders, one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent meant something to them this game. Really. I

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Speaker 1: think part of it too was I think there are

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Speaker 1: multiple like layers to this whole thing. One like that,

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Speaker 1: they had joint practices this week, and as we all saw,

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Speaker 1: there were some scuffles, multiple scuffles. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: there's some a little bit of bad blood kind of

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Speaker 1: held over from that one. And I'll in particular say

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Speaker 1: the Commander's offensive line was very upset at various times

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Speaker 1: during Wednesday's joint practice. I watched the whole thing go down,

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Speaker 1: dude spiking his helmet into the turf. They sam coused

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Speaker 1: me the guy who did the gritty after the Commander's

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Speaker 1: touchdown in the second quarter, offensive lineman doing the gritty,

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Speaker 1: and their center took a cheap shot at Ardarius Washington

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Speaker 1: in the back at the end of the play, just

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Speaker 1: totally uncalled for, which actually did make me angry. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Sam Cosmy was quoted as saying, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: stupid record that dude seemed to care a wholefully lot

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Speaker 1: I'll say that much. Yeah, for it being a stupid record.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that, like it's one of

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Speaker 2: those things where I agree with you. I think that

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Speaker 2: like there was some animosity leftover, I think from the

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Speaker 2: practices where these teams came into this game pretty fired up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Washington. I don't think that this was necessarily

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Speaker 2: a result of anything related to the practices. But they've

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Speaker 2: played their starters the entire first half.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I don't think that was really to the practice.

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Speaker 1: I think that's Sam Howe's their new Yeah, they got

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Speaker 1: a new guy starting quarterback. They want to get reps

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Speaker 1: with him in the first team offense. Yeah, I think,

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Speaker 1: but the fact remains that y'all played your starting offense

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Speaker 2: I think all of it just kind of builds. It's

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Speaker 2: like there's this this there's this tension that exists hold

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Speaker 2: and Washington's playing their They're playing their starters the entire

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Speaker 2: fire in terms of like wanting to beat these guys.

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Speaker 1: You want to.

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Speaker 2: Beat them, and the fact that they have their starters,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the game late in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: I think just all of it kind of builds. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it was one thing. They wanted to end

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Speaker 2: the streak. As much as they said that it didn't

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Speaker 2: matter to them, you could tell that it mattered to them.

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Speaker 2: And John Harble pointed that out. You know, he was

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Speaker 2: asked about that quote and its meeting the streak, and

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Speaker 2: he scoffed at the notion that it's meaning this. But

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Speaker 2: he also made the point that like it certainly meant

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Speaker 2: something to the Commanders. You know, they were they were

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Speaker 2: celebrating as they earned the right to do. But when

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Speaker 1: The guy who got the interception, oh yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: doing he was running on the lap. He was running

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Speaker 1: a lap around the stadium from the delirious fans like

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Speaker 1: they just want the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, So like

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Speaker 1: I think too that it was like the Commanders too,

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Speaker 1: you know, under the new ownership. It was it was

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Speaker 1: when he went up and was interviewed, you know, he

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, we want to win the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, he went out of his way to mention, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want to win this game, you know, and whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. The Ravens wanted to win too. I don't

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Speaker 1: fault the Commanders for wanting to win the way Ravens

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Speaker 1: also wanted to win. Yeah, you know, that's that's cool.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. It's just it was. It was dramatic, man,

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Speaker 1: it was dramatic football. Even in the said it's the

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Speaker 2: I think that was maybe my favorite part was listening

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Speaker 2: to bucket Aikman, like they kind of like they had

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Speaker 2: the mindset that They're like, all right, the second half here,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let's just get the running clock and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be halfway pantation. We're gonna send it down

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Speaker 2: to the field for some interviews. But then all of

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Speaker 2: Like let's crank things up a notch.

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Speaker 1: And I honestly like I felt.

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Speaker 2: Like that shift in the broadcast, and I felt like

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Speaker 2: I saw it on the field too, like when it

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Speaker 2: times in those situations, teams will just you know, they

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Speaker 2: don't care. They're like whatever, I'll just I'll I'll just

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Speaker 2: kick a extra point here, and if we lose by one,

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Speaker 2: we lose by one. But them going for two, it

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, they're trying to tie this thing up,

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Speaker 2: and it clearly matters. Ravens get the stop and then

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Speaker 2: obviously they gave the ball back to them, and I

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Speaker 2: just I just kind of felt at that moment on

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Speaker 2: not getting two point conversion, the energy shifted. I felt

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Speaker 2: like it shifted at the broadcast booth, felt like it

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Speaker 2: shifted at the stadium, it shifted on the field. It

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Speaker 2: just seemed to go to another level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's turn let's turn our focus towards some of the

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Speaker 1: players who stood out for the Ravens, because that's you know,

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Speaker 1: as we roll this thing forward, means more than the streak.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, obviously, first drive, say Flowers.

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Speaker 2: It's save Flowers, Tonight's it's it's if you're talking to

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Speaker 2: your buddies after this game, you're talking about say Flowers.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, not the only thing, but yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: save Flowers makes Emmanuel Forbes miss in the open field,

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Speaker 1: picks up eleven yards first down, then left wide open,

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Speaker 1: makes another dude just just arm tackle, just blows through

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Speaker 1: use his way into the end zone. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: the thing that stood out to me is Zay Flowers

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Speaker 1: is gonna change and upgrade this offense in a number

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Speaker 1: of different ways. The most stark difference I think that

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Speaker 1: the offense is gonna have with Zay Flowers that it

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Speaker 1: did not have last year is yak oh yeah, yak

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Speaker 1: yack yep. That's the yak miser. That's what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: sound like. All right, because it's a yakty yack time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is gonna, he's gonna. He's a difference

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Speaker 1: last year were let's see, they had four plays, just

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Speaker 1: four plays with yak of more than twenty one yards

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Speaker 1: or more. That's what Flowers had on that play on

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Speaker 1: his touchdown. Yeah, four plays all last year they ranked

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth in the league. And yards after catch last year.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've seen it already. I mean in

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Speaker 2: basically two series for Jay Flowers this preseason, he's gotten

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Speaker 2: that's even Lamar Jackson in his interview with LEAs Assaulters,

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Speaker 2: when asked about Zay Flowers, he talked about yak just

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Speaker 2: basically he wants to get the ball, spread it out

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he saw it.

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Speaker 2: If he can make guys miss, I mean e Manual

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Speaker 2: Four's first round pick at corner, he makes him miss

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Speaker 2: and gets the first down, then he just weaves through

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Speaker 2: traffic in order to get that touchdown. I just think that, like, man,

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Speaker 2: that if you were hoping to have go into this season.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Day's going to play in the

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Speaker 2: preseason finale. My guess is probably not. They probably feel

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Speaker 2: like we've seen enough. But like, if you want to

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Speaker 2: go into the season feeling like Jay Flowers can be

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Speaker 2: difference maker for your offense, you've seen it. I mean

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Speaker 2: you've seen it. Two targets, a touchdown and a first down,

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Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of yards after the catch.

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Speaker 1: Like that's exactly what you.

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Speaker 2: Want him to bring to this offense.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: I mean we've been telling everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's like it just looks like it honestly, kind of

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Speaker 1: reminds me of Lamar, like when he was a rookie

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Speaker 1: and he would go on the field in these preseason

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Speaker 1: games and you're like, this guy's just different from everybody

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Speaker 1: else on the field. Yeah, well you know, I mean the.

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Speaker 2: Iconic one was was Lamar against Green.

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Speaker 1: Bay where he jumped over Alexander Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it was like, WHOA, this guy is different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It kind of it reminds me of that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I think that like the point is valid that

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Speaker 2: going up against the first team offense with some really

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Speaker 2: talented receivers made me feel a little bit better going

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Speaker 2: into the season. Let's say if Keyvon Seymour ends up

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Speaker 2: playing significant snaps in week one, yep, like if our

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Speaker 2: Darius Washington ends up getting I don't know, thirty snaps

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Speaker 2: in week one, Like, to me, he looks like a

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Speaker 2: guy who can hold his own and stay with Kevon

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Speaker 2: seymore So, I think that that is encouraging on both

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Speaker 2: accounts with those two guys. All right, let's take a

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Speaker 2: of some other thoughts from the game, here, make you know.

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Speaker 2: With the receiver competition, Thailand Wallace continues to look good.

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Speaker 2: I mean he had another touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It's like, is this a replay or is this new? Here?

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Speaker 2: It felt like the same exact play. I mean Backsholta

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Speaker 2: he was in the right place. Last week was some

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Speaker 2: snoop tonight was from Josh Johnson. So Thailand Wallace, to me,

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Speaker 2: he's played his way onto the team, like he's done

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Speaker 2: enough in the preseason, he's done enough of camp. He's

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Speaker 2: a sixth receiver in my mind. Soon maybe able to

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Speaker 2: keep six. But as we already mentioned, they're keeping four

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Speaker 2: running backs and three quarterbacks and you know all this,

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Speaker 2: but we're just not gonna have deeper yes, but but

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Speaker 2: but to me, Tyland Wallace has played his way on

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Speaker 2: you know, tough night for James Proche. You know, he

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Speaker 2: goes up and tries to make the catch and bounces

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Speaker 2: off his hands and ends up getting picked off. It's

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Speaker 2: like James is I wanted to work for him, and

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Speaker 2: it's he works really hard and he like he wants

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Speaker 2: so badly for it to work, and it just just hasn't,

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Speaker 2: you know. It hasn't been a great summer for him.

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Speaker 2: And had the fumble last week and now there's this play.

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Speaker 2: I just I feel badly for him because I think

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Speaker 2: there's probably it's hard. I don't know how you don't

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Speaker 2: press in that situation. You want so badly for it

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Speaker 2: to happen, but just a tough night for proche on

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Speaker 2: that on that turnover.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Yep, I second that notion. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then and then what's your take on the quarterback situation?

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Speaker 2: You know, we we briefly touched on that, but I

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Speaker 2: thought Josh Johnson looked pretty good. We didn't see any

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Speaker 2: Tiler Huntly dealing with the hamstring. But what do you

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Speaker 2: what do you make the quarterback conversation?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Josh had a good night, you know,

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Speaker 1: at ten to twelve for buck forty five and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He had the one pick on the play that we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about where he kind of had pressure

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Speaker 1: and just kind of put it up for his receiver

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Speaker 1: to make a play and didn't happen. But I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought Josh played well. You know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: still think that Tyler Huntley is in position to be

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Speaker 1: the number two quarterback, even if you know his hamstring

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Speaker 1: keeps him out of the preseason finale. I still think

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Speaker 1: that that's probably the number two. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: did think it was notable. Some of the comments on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast from Troy Aikman and Joe Buck about how

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Speaker 1: much Todd Munkin really likes Josh Johnson, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: from their comments, it sounded like Monkin was raving about

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Speaker 1: him in production meetings, and so, you know, is Todd

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Speaker 1: pushing to keep three quarterbacks? You know? I mean there's

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Speaker 1: this third quarterback new rule in which they don't count

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Speaker 1: against the game day roster size limit, right, but you

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Speaker 1: still have to have him on your fifty three, right,

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Speaker 1: So they they're kind of a bonus game day player.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that the Ravens have the luxury

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Speaker 1: of carrying three quarterbacks on their fifty three. That's that

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Speaker 1: could be tough, you know, if the Ravens. If the

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Speaker 1: Ravens didn't keep Josh Johnson, is he a guy that

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Speaker 1: gets claimed elsewhere? I don't know, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the question is can they can? Could he

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Speaker 1: be on the preseason you know, could he just ride

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Speaker 1: the preseason roster for much of the year and if

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Speaker 1: you need him you call him up.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, you're saying, basically, he's you cut him.

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Speaker 1: Basically, it's your third quarter. Yeah, he's your third quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the on the practice squad. Sorry, I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: meant to say practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're really we're really hung up on this

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Speaker 2: thing of taking this ninety man roster into the season.

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Speaker 2: We are advocating for it across the board, all these

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Speaker 2: all these guys who want to keep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look it's twelve thirty seven. A yeah, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's late. It's late. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's a fair question with Josh

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Speaker 2: And you know, does he get claimed that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I see it pretty much the same way. But I

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Speaker 2: think Josh Johnson has made it a real competition, you know,

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Speaker 2: this summer, and I think he took a step tonight.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a tough call and

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Speaker 2: we'll see if that's one of those decisions that truly

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Speaker 2: goes into the final preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Anthony Brown played pretty well too. He did give

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Speaker 1: him his problems.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony Brown did play well. It's a nice moments,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's Anthony Brown could be a guy

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Speaker 2: that gets you know, they had some really nice moments.

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Speaker 2: I thought we saw that tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, scrambling in and through some through some nice balls.

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Speaker 1: So it was a good night entertaining game, really entertaining game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was fun. Uh So anyway,

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Speaker 1: we got an email here from John Stremmel kind of

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Speaker 1: to close it out here, he says, Aloha, Ryan Garrett'd

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Speaker 1: like to try to put a positive spin on the

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Speaker 1: preseason win streak, ending the Ravens never won the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl on the streak was going on. So now that

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Speaker 1: it's over, perhaps that means this is our Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was never a win streak but a win curse. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: that really spun it there. Welcome to the spin cycle

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Speaker 1: with John Stremme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just had to get that. You get rid

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Speaker 2: of that, and now they can go out there and

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Speaker 2: win it all. Well, maybe that is I just looked

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Speaker 2: it up. When the Ravens won the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve, there was four preseason games at that point.

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Speaker 2: They went two and two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go, there you go. I like

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Speaker 1: the way you're thinking, John, Well, right now we're five

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Speaker 1: hundred in the preseason. There you go, size them up.

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Speaker 1: Let's just sign off the call off the third one

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Speaker 1: and we're good. Then you can size them up.

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Speaker 2: It has become a size them up postgame reaction here

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Speaker 2: so you can.

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Speaker 1: You can always email.

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Speaker 2: Us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate hear from you guys.

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Speaker 2: Just said us your question and send us your thoughts

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Speaker 2: and we will be back with you later this week