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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Monday, December fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're ready to spit

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Speaker 1: hot fire. It's me and your man named g Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grand joined by Michael F. Florio and Laqwan Jones, and

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Speaker 1: happy victory Monday. All three of our teams pulled out wins.

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Speaker 2: I'm never happy when it's all three of us though,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, just saying, because you're.

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Speaker 1: Never happy anyway, like like, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm really happy now you see the shirt. It's victory

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Speaker 2: money for sure.

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Speaker 1: When the Rams win, you find a way to nitpick

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Speaker 1: at it, like something wasn't right.

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Speaker 2: I did that once. I did that against Baltimore, which

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Speaker 2: we know that game was bad, like we shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: won that game.

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Speaker 1: Or you're beefing with other fans.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct. Very I'm outside. I'm barking bringing

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Speaker 2: the ship.

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Speaker 1: Just you can't just enjoy like you thought me, like

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Speaker 1: not taking L's like you don't take w's.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Yea. The Rams win, the Niners win, the Bills win,

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Speaker 1: Florio in incredibly dramatic fashion.

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Speaker 2: You were you were literally the meme of like not

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Speaker 2: go lie.

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Speaker 1: They had us in the first half, like that was

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Speaker 1: the Bills on Sunday, But you know, Joshi to the

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Speaker 1: rescue and they come and they pull it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I want, I want to take a

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Speaker 3: second to address these Patriots fans that have been in

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Speaker 3: my mentions and I'm seeing online because look, I was

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Speaker 3: told all week that this man on my shirt, Drake May,

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Speaker 3: is the best quarterback in the division.

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Speaker 2: And look, I've been on Drake May since before Patriots

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Speaker 2: fans were on Drake May.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to apologize to them because everything

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Speaker 3: they're saying is true. Right, Like, it wasn't the special

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Speaker 3: teams and their defense getting cooked. It wasn't Josh and

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Speaker 3: James being the second best player. The best players down

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Speaker 3: the stretch are May air matling throws and failing to

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Speaker 3: secure his first ever career fourth quarter comeback. It was

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Speaker 3: the reps, like we all saw when that booty catch

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Speaker 3: touched the turf that led to a scoring drive and

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Speaker 3: not a punt, or when they put two seconds back

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Speaker 3: on the clock after it malfunctioned, that they were rigging

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Speaker 3: it for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: And look, sure.

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Speaker 3: Your fans provided old take exposed with a decade.

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Speaker 2: Worth of receipts. But it wasn't your fault that a

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Speaker 2: day that you were so confident would end in hats

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Speaker 2: and t shirts ended in tears and excuses.

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Speaker 3: And yes, everything you're saying, this is the Bill's super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It is why Josh and James in the first half

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Speaker 3: were screaming at the other sideline. It is why they

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Speaker 3: went live on Instagram after the game, dancing and celebrating

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Speaker 3: because it was one team Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And that was clearly the Bills.

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Speaker 3: So congrats, you guys proved that either you win or

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Speaker 3: it's rigged. And sorry about Josh stealing Drake's MVP shine

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Speaker 3: because he ain't getting it.

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Speaker 1: Oh so there's so much time, Yes, there was so

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Speaker 1: much there.

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Speaker 2: Sweating has just been filled.

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Speaker 3: And like it's not just bands, like I'm seeing Mike

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Speaker 3: Rabral was blaming the refs. You blew a twenty one

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Speaker 3: oh lead. If you blame the refs, you have no

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Speaker 3: one to blame but the man looking back. And and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about Trebon. He is a dog and

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Speaker 3: you guys should have been using him all year. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna blame the refs for that too.

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Speaker 1: Mm bars always remembers when you point the finger, three

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Speaker 1: are pointing back at you. That's just the thing that was.

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Speaker 2: Four fingers. Good job. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I would say this because you were probably on the

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen side of things, because you were not because

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Speaker 1: you wanted the Bills to win. You just you want

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Speaker 1: you want to push Drake May off the stage. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of all. I mean.

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Speaker 2: Drake May is on a different stage. He's on the

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Speaker 2: whole different night. I mean, look, this is not one

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Speaker 2: of those like what is it the Rager Knights where

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Speaker 2: you have like three different stages. Drake May is not

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Speaker 2: even in the ballpark. He's not even on the card.

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Speaker 2: He's not even the big print name when it comes

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Speaker 2: to MVP because there's only one name on the card

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Speaker 2: and that's Matthew Stafford Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: This isn't even offensive player of the here MVP votes

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Speaker 3: pushing a certain player.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys know that Jordan Love is third in

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Speaker 2: MVP vote right now? Like, where did that come from?

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Speaker 2: Is that the toyota than promoting that, Well, he got

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Speaker 2: knocked out after this weekend.

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Speaker 3: It probably got but he was playing Joash is legitimately

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Speaker 3: the biggest competition for Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Now this isn't me saying it. Bro he played Do

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Speaker 2: Do the entire month of November. What are we talking about,

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Speaker 2: bro In head to head I.

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Speaker 1: Do, I will go don't. Don't have that kind of

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Speaker 1: on the show. We got stuff to do on the

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Speaker 1: show here today we're gonna we're talking about Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: after what he he saw or what we saw from him,

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Speaker 1: I guess against the Seattle Seahawks. We'll have some players

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Speaker 1: playoff Week one heroes and villains. Also, I don't know

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Speaker 1: some other things that I half asked on the rundown

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Speaker 1: and didn't finish. But we'll do some job Zone, We'll

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Speaker 1: do some Waiver wire stuff. Look, I got distracted yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The kid wanted to play Minecraft. It was a whole thing. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: We start with some news headlines though, and there were

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Speaker 1: some really big news headlines coming out of the Sunday

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Speaker 1: of Week fifteen, maybe the biggest one. Patrick Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: torn his acl in the loss to the Chargers that

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Speaker 1: also officially knocked the Chiefs out of playoff contention. So

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a decade, the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs will not be around for the postseason. And now

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Speaker 1: we have questions about how long until we see Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes on a football field again. The early speculation probably

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Speaker 1: not until the middle of next season. I would suspect

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew came in threw a pick that ended whatever

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Speaker 1: little hope Kansas City had. But the question Florio is

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Speaker 1: does this mean we are done with Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in fantasy in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 2: We're done with all of them except for maybe two.

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Speaker 3: Like I still do think Rashid Rice because the way

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Speaker 3: they utilize him can be like I have him.

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Speaker 2: On a couple of teams that are going to be.

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Speaker 3: Playing for a semi final, and I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: starting him more than likely. I haven't like sat down

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Speaker 3: and set my lineup for next week yet, but I.

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Speaker 2: Envision that I will. He had a lot of targets yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I will say defenses are figuring out that the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: just run him in the same routes over.

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Speaker 2: And over again on third down, and it's why he's

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Speaker 3: But because of his catch and run ability and everything,

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Speaker 3: I still do think he could be in play. And

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Speaker 3: then Travis Kelce I went back and forth on if

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Speaker 3: I want to have him as a sitter, not next week,

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Speaker 3: but with tight end being what it is and the

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Speaker 3: fact that, I mean Kelsey still had what I think

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Speaker 3: like twelve or thirteen targets yesterday, like that probably keeps

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Speaker 3: him in play unless he just comes out now and it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm done as well, but I don't expect that.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, those are the only two chiefs that I

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Speaker 3: think you can consider moving forward in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's brutal, and maybe this isn't the conversation

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Speaker 1: for today, but I think there is a conversation about

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Speaker 1: kind of where we're drafting those guys next year, depending

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Speaker 1: if maybe it's going to be Gardner Minshew. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: go out and you know, find a stop gap measure

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Speaker 1: to kind of get them through however long it's going

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Speaker 1: to be. But I think once we get more clarity

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Speaker 1: on that, I think it's going to.

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Speaker 3: Be worth I'm going to call today on December fifteenth,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahome is going to be out there week one, you.

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Speaker 1: Think, so, huh?

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Speaker 2: I mean that boy got a different type of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the rehabit, they.

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Speaker 1: Might have different type of money, you have different type

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Speaker 3: Maybe not, but I mean Philip Rivers showed us that

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Speaker 3: you don't have to be the most mobile to play QB.

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Speaker 2: Like I only we'll get running Patrick. I kind of

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Speaker 2: wanted Rivers to kind of move a little bit out

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Speaker 1: About that in a bit though. We'll talk about that second.

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Speaker 3: Like Joe Burrow played the next year right after, I

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Speaker 3: don't remember when exactly he to.

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Speaker 2: I know there's different timelines.

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Speaker 3: But early in the season that I think gives you

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Speaker 2: If I'm not I might be wrong, but I think

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Speaker 2: the first four weeks is when Burrow tour his aco

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Speaker 2: and then that's when he came back earlier in the season,

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Speaker 2: and I think that was the speculation that offseason if

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Speaker 2: he was coming back, and he did so. I think

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Speaker 2: at least the first couple of weeks he's gonna miss.

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Speaker 1: I did see people putting out this like nine month timeline, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly after it happened, which again we'll put you into

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Speaker 1: mid September, so maybe he does week one, Uh might

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Speaker 2: But you know you want him out there Week one

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Speaker 2: is the thing to the other parts about Adrian Peterson.

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Speaker 2: He was made in a lib obviously he was liked.

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Speaker 1: He had adamantium bones, Like I don't know, there's something

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Speaker 3: I sh'll guarantee, but we're gonna hear all the entire

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Speaker 3: summer conversation is going to be is he going to

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Speaker 3: be ready for week.

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Speaker 2: One or not? Well, I'm saying it now December fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I'm fading all chiefs fast catchers like

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Speaker 2: I have no interest in whatsoever in a worthy of

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Speaker 2: race or whoever they add through to draft, Like Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: he's likely right off the sunset. So there's that. So

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Speaker 2: like what are we looking at in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: Like the run game sucks, but Checko is not getting

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Speaker 2: to hunt. He's cooked. Like That's why I'm like this

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Speaker 2: entire team is like not fantasy like interesting for me

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Speaker 2: in twenty six at least, like where we look at

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Speaker 2: my homes, Like yeah, I'll take the dart on him

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Speaker 2: in like past the twelfth round. I mean, honestly, if

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Speaker 2: you go in two quarterbacks like most of us do.

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't see much for me to

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Speaker 2: be interested in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're going to have a complete overhaul

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Speaker 1: this off season, I think offensive. Yeah, it's gonna look

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Speaker 1: really different next year.

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Speaker 2: And Oldell Beckham's music, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of these disgruntled wide receivers, don't We're not

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Speaker 1: We're not doing the OBJ.

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Speaker 2: Is that DeAndre Hopkins?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's he's in. He's already gone to Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: which is generally the rest home in Baltimore. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know, speaking of wide receivers, old wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Definitely something that was noteworthy DeAndre Hawkins. Devonte Adams reaggravated

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Speaker 1: his hamstring injury against the Lions and he was forced

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Speaker 1: to leave the game, and the early reports from Sean

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Speaker 2: So I actually haven't sat down and looked at the

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Speaker 2: previous seasons that we've seen him make clutch catches I

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Speaker 2: I look at this as you gotta have to rock

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, can Mumpfield No.

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Speaker 2: Uh see the catch he almost made, man, I mean,

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Speaker 2: more opportunity. It's just like, is he going to push

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Speaker 1: Also, you talk about generational catches for a rookie, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I said, one of, not the one of just.

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Speaker 1: Making just making sure we're clear on that. That's all. Also,

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Speaker 3: So I will say I was watching that game because

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Speaker 2: Coming down to today, one of which I lost.

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Speaker 3: By less than two points. I'm like, if Watson was

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden did get utilized a lot after Christian Watson

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Speaker 2: The issue is Jayden Reid, who is back now?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Was their top target?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Romeo Dobbs was still playing the most routes out there. Still,

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Speaker 3: to me, Golden at best is like he might have

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Speaker 2: He's like a deeper league play someone.

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Speaker 3: I want to say, like, if this was the middle

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Speaker 2: But in the Fantasy semifinals, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not confident enough at least to put my season

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Speaker 3: not to me, it's kind of like a deeper dart.

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Speaker 2: Throw type of play. There's upside though.

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Speaker 1: They're just they're just kind of cursed to not have

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Speaker 1: Like it's just apparently it just can't either Read's hurt

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Speaker 2: My issue with Golden is is that he's not a

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Speaker 2: full time wide receiver like he's still not playing fifty

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Speaker 2: it's one of those deeper Darth throws, Like I have

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Speaker 2: where it's like I have to, I have no other

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Speaker 2: some folks have held on to Matthew going for a

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Speaker 2: very really long time because again, he has the talent,

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Speaker 2: But it's just like he's not a full time wide

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get it, it's his rookie season,

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Speaker 1: like after the draft, he were like Matthew Golden to

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Speaker 1: the moon. Like they spent the first round pick on

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Speaker 2: and here we are in twenty twenty five, still trying

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Speaker 2: to get him as a full time wide receiver. But

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Speaker 2: you know, draft capital means nothing in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Yes and no, but in this case no. Also to

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Speaker 1: too is we. He's we. He's a wee. He's a

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Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to have him out say it

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Speaker 1: He's we. He's we.

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Speaker 2: He's a great player, man, He's tell us another contract.

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Speaker 2: He's playing up to it. When given opportunity, He's also we.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Devin Neil left the Saints game the their

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Speaker 1: surprise win over the Panthers. By the way, the NFC,

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Speaker 1: the NFC South is pure chaos and I love every

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Speaker 1: Uh lakwan, can I interest you maybe an odric estimate?

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Speaker 2: Ah Man this guy again keeps popping up. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: because like there's always that moment where you're like, next

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Speaker 2: want to trust him. But we've seen the Saints hand

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Speaker 2: the keys to the next man up three times now.

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Speaker 2: I would say, when album Kamara was not doing great,

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Speaker 2: Kendre Miller got the rock, and when Kendre Miller went down,

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Speaker 2: Devin Neil got the rock. Now we're looking at alldre estimate.

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Speaker 2: This run game isn't great. It's not one of those

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Speaker 2: run games that I could see myself saying, yes, he's

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Speaker 2: a starter this week, flex get him off the wave ward. No,

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Speaker 2: it's still the Saints rushing offense that has been bottom

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Speaker 2: of the table for most of the season. So no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested. I'd rather pivot to other options if

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Speaker 2: there are. In the waiver war. Blake orm is still

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Speaker 2: he's there. But I look at it like because left

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Speaker 2: playing right there. But I'm just saying you should have

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Speaker 2: stashed him. Three weeks ago, the month of November, this

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Speaker 2: guy was starting to ramp up. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: one of his best games that I've seen him, you know,

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Speaker 2: but I had both of these guys and I'm thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 2: all your estimate that I cannot see myself trusting and

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Playoffs.

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Speaker 1: For the record, Tyler Shuck yesterday ended up leading these

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Speaker 1: Saints in both carries and rushing yards. Obviously some of

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Speaker 2: I could put the Spencer Ratler fan trained to bed

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Speaker 2: now because Tyler Shuck looks like he's the guy now.

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Speaker 1: So he's not right he's mister right now, Like, I

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Speaker 2: He's their best option.

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Speaker 1: He's their best option, but he also isn't he is

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Speaker 1: the guy that needs you get to stop looking for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's the Saints aren't looking at Tyler

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Speaker 1: Suck and being like, well we're done. Like's not.

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Speaker 2: It's the potential there. I know, there's pretend I say

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Speaker 2: that because like the last couple of weeks, you guys know,

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Speaker 2: like Marcus had shattered him out as a potential flex

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Speaker 2: I'm like watching him closely now, Like I've been watching

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Speaker 2: a lot of Saints games this season. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: but just like some of them players are interesting and

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Speaker 2: then you know, I'm a huge Juwan Johnson fan. But

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Speaker 2: Tyler Schuck has looked like at above average quarterback play

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Speaker 2: at times, getting on into the pocket, rolling out, taking

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Speaker 2: Let's just say that, like he's doing what he's supposed

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six, get some more weapons. It's just it's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be very interesting to see if a forty year old

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I don't think Tyler Schuck

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Speaker 1: When we're looking at arch Manning next year, you know,

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Speaker 2: Out, is he coming out? I was about to say,

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Speaker 2: not this.

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Speaker 1: Year, not this year. No, no, no, no no. His grandfather,

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Speaker 1: Archie Manny, has said right from the beginning of the

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Speaker 2: They're apologize for saying that, but I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, Also, the first few weeks of Arch were not great.

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Speaker 1: not great at the start of the year for Arch Manning.

438
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's news headlines want to get to what

439
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 1: was the biggest story though, of Sunday, at least leading

440
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Speaker 1: into Sunday, and that was the return of Philip Rivers,

441
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: forty four years old, off the couch, a grandfather who'd

442
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: been coaching high school football for the last several years,

443
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: comes back to start for the Indianapolis Colts against the

444
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. The final numbers on Philip Rivers on Sunday.

445
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: He was eighteen of twenty seven one hundred and twenty

446
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: one yards with a touchdown and an interception that translated

447
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: to six point three fantasy points. Also had negative five

448
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: rushing yards, in case you were interested in that sort

449
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: of thing. LaQuan, your thoughts on what you saw out

450
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Speaker 1: of Philip Rivers on Sunday.

451
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Speaker 2: I'll say this, for a guy that's forty four years

452
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: old to come in with that much confidence to go

453
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: out there potentially beat the Seahawks, I look at it

454
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: like this. I'm happy with his performance coming off the couch,

455
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: but it's not enough. It's not enough to support a

456
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman. It's not enough to support a Tyler Warren.

457
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 2: So I do hope that you know, this could be

458
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: one of those feel good stories. But then it's like,

459
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: all right, let's get back to reality. Let's get back

460
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: to where we saw Riley Leonard last week. You know,

461
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: because Riley Leonard looked better in those three quarters than

462
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers did. In four quarters in almost a triumphant

463
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Speaker 2: victory against the Seahawks.

464
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Speaker 1: I saw a guy who obviously the football IQ was there.

465
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Speaker 1: This is what we all expected, right, I mean, dude's

466
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: been around the game forever. He knows what he's doing.

467
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: But also a guy who has zero armstrong length left.

468
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: Sidearms doesn't look the same, Marcus, Like, it just looks

469
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: like me throwing a pham ball.

470
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Speaker 1: It looked there were some of those throws Florida where

471
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: it looked like the ball was twenty pounds the way

472
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: he was trying to sling it right and just throwing

473
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Speaker 1: these balloons out there, and like it's more often than

474
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Speaker 1: that they got there right. He was eighteen of twenty seven.

475
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: Like the completion percentage was good. I'm but florya, Okay,

476
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: we have Riley Leonard back now just for our own fantasy.

477
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Speaker 3: No, well, why I want Philip Rivers? Like, why, No,

478
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: it's entertaining I do. I'm not a Colts fan.

479
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: I'm not rooting for them.

480
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for fun and Philip Rivers look like, yeah,

481
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Speaker 3: I get it. On his de throws, he had a

482
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: four point seven passer rating on any throw more than

483
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: ten air yards it wasn't it wasn't pretty. It also

484
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: was his first game in five years that he had

485
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: three days of prep for against what has been the

486
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Speaker 3: toughest secondary in the last six weeks. I mean, if

487
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: it was Anthony Richardson coming back, sure, sign me up.

488
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 2: But if it's Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers. As an

489
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: objective viewer, I want to watch Philip Rivers? What is

490
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: wrong with you? What do you gotta getst Riley?

491
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Speaker 1: I want I want Tyler Warren to have more than

492
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Speaker 1: three catches for nineteen yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all the Colts were terrible.

494
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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that because that you cannot trust.

495
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Speaker 2: But can you trust them with Riley? We don't even

496
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: know that, yes you can. We do know that he's finished.

497
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Speaker 2: You know those three quarters against William Trevor mid Lawrence,

498
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: he honestly looked a little bit better than him in

499
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Speaker 2: those last three quarters in a game where the defense

500
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Speaker 2: had zero prep for him. So what, it's still like

501
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: a third string, fourth string quarterback at this point.

502
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Speaker 3: And there, come on, think about it this way. Shane

503
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 3: Steichen and the Colts have watched Riley Leonard all year

504
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: and they were like, you know what, let's go get

505
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers five years on the couch.

506
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Speaker 2: It's to keep the fans engaged and have the hope

507
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: that they're going to the playoffs or even the Super Bowl.

508
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard gives them the best shot.

509
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Speaker 3: Psichon straight up said, if we don't try Rivers, we're

510
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: not making the playoffs.

511
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Speaker 1: That's brutal, that's rough. That's if I'm Riley Leonard, I'm

512
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna walk into a lake. But what

513
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: are we doing?

514
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Speaker 2: Bro had one hundred and twenty yards, I would be

515
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: so angry, like, at least Riley can move out of

516
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: the pocket like Bro. Rivers looked like in pain, Like,

517
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: let's be honest. I was like, Bro, the Seahawks are

518
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: none letting up. They were coming after him.

519
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Speaker 1: They very curious how they did almost win. I'm very

520
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Speaker 1: curious how Philip Rivers feels this morning, like physically, how

521
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: does his body feel this morning? Like that's what I

522
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: want to know.

523
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Speaker 2: Boy. I know I fell after that forty I mean boy.

524
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Speaker 1: I said, I played softball for the first time last summer,

525
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Speaker 1: for the first I mean, ye're and it wasn't the worst,

526
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: but it also wasn't the greatest. Like I wasn't trying

527
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Speaker 1: to get out there and do it again the next day.

528
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Speaker 1: So that's that's all I know.

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Speaker 2: I guess them Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: If you want to come through, yeah, oh cool on man,

531
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: I'll come chew you on and you know, go team go.

532
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: I need a little more warm up time before that. Anyway,

533
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Speaker 1: take a break, come back. We've got a whole lot

534
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Speaker 1: of other things to talk about, some heroes and villains.

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: We do some questions. I got a lot of things

536
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: in this rundown. We may not even get to them all.

537
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Speaker 1: We'll find out. That's that's coming next though, on the

538
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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So Week one of the fantasy

539
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: playoffs in most leagues almost completely in the books. There's

540
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: still the Monday night game between the Steelers and Dolphins.

541
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: I just say Dolphins and Steelers, right because it's in Pittsburgh.

542
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be crazy cold, and everybody's already bringing

543
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: up the fact that Tua Tongueaailoa is ozh and five

544
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Speaker 1: in his career. When the temperature is at or below

545
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Speaker 1: forty degrees, I think the forecast was like eighteen with

546
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: sixteen mile an hour wins. Potentially that seems bad. But

547
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Speaker 1: other than that, everybody else has already played this week,

548
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: So I'll figure we do some heroes and villains. Lakwan,

549
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: who was your fantasy playoff hero in this first week?

550
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: Wow? I mean to roster Tony Poler and then make

551
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: it to the playoffs. To this point, I mean, in

552
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: the last three games, Bro, he's been a top three

553
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: running back, Like what is going on? He has the

554
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: second most rushing yards behind Tony Pot I mean behind

555
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: James Cook right now, Tony Poller coming out of nowhere

556
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: putting up these strong performances. He has to be a

557
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: hero for one of those teams that were on the fence,

558
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: the seventh seed team that you know made it with

559
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Tony Poler as their RB three, as their RB two.

560
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be of how you drafted him,

561
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: but he has given us production where we have not

562
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: seen this for a very long time. Like it's one

563
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: of those things where we look at the Titans offense,

564
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: it's like it's the Titans offense. They're not doing anything.

565
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: The run game is pathetic, the old line is not great.

566
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: But these last couple of weeks, cam Ward has been

567
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: looking a lot better. It looks like he's starting to

568
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: form into this QB one, the number one draft pick

569
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Speaker 2: that they picked, and it's contagious. You're seeing guys like

570
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: a Van Jefferson, elk Io Manor and you're seeing Tony

571
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: Pollard step up now as the RB one. So he

572
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: is definitely a hero in this round of the playoffs

573
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of fantasy managers.

574
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Speaker 1: I think what's happened at least the last couple of

575
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: weeks is they're not getting blown out like from the

576
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: jump right. I think that's part because I was going

577
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: back and looking at some of Pollard's numbers and efficiency wise,

578
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: he's actually been okay. The problem is they were playing

579
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: from so far behind in the second half usually that

580
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: they just had to scrap the run game all together.

581
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: And they're kind of using tay J. Spears as their

582
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: pass catching back. But you know, last week they beat

583
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: the Browns. This week they kind of stayed within arms

584
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: distance of the Niners for most of the game. There's

585
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: at one point San Francisco got up by three scores.

586
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: That's how you guys play bad teams this entire season.

587
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why you guys are fraud of what

588
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: your record is. But I'm sorry, I'm going on the ramp,

589
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: but go on continue, Marcus.

590
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: So Tony Pollard got some opportunities because you know, they

591
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: were actually within striking distance for some part of the game.

592
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that has a lot to do with it.

593
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: Has just been getting run out of the building and

594
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: so the game script was forcing cam Moore to have

595
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot, which is also why

596
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: cam Moore has been sacked more than any other quarterback

597
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL so far this year. Floria, is your

598
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: chance to make nice with Patriots fans when you talk

599
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: about your playoff hero for the.

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Speaker 3: Week, Travion Henderson. And let me just tell you this, right.

601
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: I know you all saw the thirty points that he

602
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: dropped and the two touchdowns and everything, but did you

603
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: know that in NFL history, the entirety of the NFL

604
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: playoffs included, there are three running backs who have multiple

605
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: games where they ran for a fifty plus yard touchdown,

606
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: two of them in the same game. So those running

607
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: backs are Chris Johnson, Saquon Barkley, and Travion Henderson, who

608
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: has done it in fourteen games, fourteen games where his

609
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: own coach did didn't want to give him the ball

610
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: and wanted to use fumble itis over him. And now

611
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: you gotta explain how one of the greatest rookie seasons

612
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: was held in check because you didn't want to use him.

613
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: More that being said, I'm here to tell you I

614
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: was not wrong. None of us who believe in Travion

615
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: were wrong. It was the coaches who were wrong. Because

616
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL, right three rookies have

617
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: had four touchdown runs of fifty or more yards.

618
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Speaker 2: It is Saquon, Trevion and some dude named Lennymore who

619
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Speaker 2: none of you know who he is. That is Colts

620
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: great Lennymore. All right, Marcus knows who it is.

621
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: But of course Marcus knows who it is to say

622
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: that's it, right, This is Lenny.

623
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Moore from nineteen fifty six. By the way, Like that's

624
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: how far back we're going.

625
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: There's some of Baltimore Colts. Then yeah, I'm.

626
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: Just saying, like, he is really good. He is awesome,

627
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: and uh, if you have him and he made the playoffs,

628
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: congrats because he could just keep I know, next week

629
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: they get the Ravens. I'm playing Trevon.

630
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: No questions asked if I have them?

631
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: All right, all right, by the way, mister fumble, Thumb's

632
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: uh was in my uh he's in Sleepers call. He

633
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: got your ten points. If you're into that sort of thing.

634
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: I wrote, Yeah, yeah, he was good, he was solid, but.

635
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Thumbs was there. You're right, minds Kobe Brissette for those

636
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: of you who had the stones to play Jacoby Brissett,

637
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: and I look, and I said this on another show

638
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: that if you're starting him, like, don't watch it, like

639
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to see because it's not going to

640
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: be fun to watch as it happens. But the thing

641
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: about Jacoby Brissett is, uh, going down three scores only

642
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: makes him stronger. And that's kind of what happened against

643
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the Texans. They went down multiple scores. Even at the beginning,

644
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: it looked kind of rough. They couldn't move the ball. No,

645
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: not really a surprise there against that Texans defense. But

646
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: in the second half is when he started to clean up.

647
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: Because Houston was up by multiple scores, you know, they

648
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: were starting to back off a little bit. They're like, hey,

649
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: let's just keep the ball in front of us. Let's

650
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: just you know, just don't give up any really big

651
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: plays in the passing game. Travy Bride had a couple

652
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: of touchdowns that were sort of inconsequential. I mean, they

653
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: got doubled up forty to twenty. But Schobe brissett nine

654
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: three touchdowns give you over twenty Fantasy points. Yet again,

655
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what he's gone. I'm looking at this right now.

656
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Every game that he has started this year, he's had

657
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: at least eighteen Fantasy points. Every single one. He has

658
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: been Fantasy Gold this year. And it doesn't even matter.

659
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Because the Cardinals can't run the ball and their defense

660
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: is bad and they're falling behind. You just know Brissette's

661
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna stand back there and he's gonna sling it a

662
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: bunch and so like now you look at the rest

663
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: of this playoff schedule for them, they got the Falcons,

664
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: they got the Bengals. I said this several weeks ago,

665
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: and I stick by it. Jacoby Rissett's going to win

666
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: people championships. It's going to be crazy, but he is

667
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: going to win somebody championships because the schedule is set

668
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: up that way, the offense is set up that way.

669
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: It's not always going to be fun to watch, but

670
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: it's going to happen when it's all said and done to.

671
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Backs, I would be remiss if I didn't point out

672
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: though that uh jj McCarthy, I'll score him.

673
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bro please soda, Trev Soda, bow Knicks Soda,

674
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Brock Perty Soda Golf. We got a twenty burger. We

675
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: ain't gonna stay here and do that.

676
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: Hey, I tweet it out like him doing this against

677
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: Houston is super impressive.

678
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: But I just I'm just pointing out, Bro, I don't

679
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: care what defense it is. I'm starting to go be

680
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: said rest of the playoffs.

681
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: Man, Well yeah, well he's not. He's past the toughest tests,

682
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: like it's all downhill now. This was the one. This

683
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: was the one matchup to get away. In my opinion,

684
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: can't have a hero without a villain. Who is your villain, lakwan,

685
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: it has to be Justin Jefferson. And I really want

686
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to address the room, like who in the room is

687
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: with us that actually has roster Justin Jefferson? Who are

688
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: sitting in the playoffs right now?

689
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: Because I would say this, I lost to a team

690
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: that played Justin Jefferson, the Watson team that got hurt.

691
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: I told you I lost Justin Jeffers. He also had travion, but.

692
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: That's not the point of the story.

693
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who did he sit? Because I feel like

694
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: this is a villain arc and I feel like now

695
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: when we look back in the summer, the lack of

696
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: chemistry that was built between him and JJ was a

697
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: red flag because he was dealing with a hamstring injury

698
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: all summer. Oh yeah, we're friends and public had a

699
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: huge game. If we're if we're keeping in a buck,

700
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: you get.

701
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: A touchdown, call back, get a touchdown, bounce off his

702
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: hand and he got tackled at the one.

703
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: But this all goes to that chemistry of what I've

704
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: been saying for the last couple of months, there is

705
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: no chemistry there. That's why Jalen Naylor and Jordan Addison

706
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: and t J. Hockinson and Josh Oliver are able to

707
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: have these type of games with him because they spent

708
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: the most time with him in the summer. And I

709
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: got to say this, him getting benched and then the

710
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: weird concussion and ankle, all that stuff took away time

711
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: for him to build this chemistry with Justin Jefferson. So

712
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: he is my villain because for the simple fact he's

713
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: burned so many rosters into playoffs, because we keep looking

714
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: at his big name and saying, oh, yeah, we got

715
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: to start him, but instead of looking at the red

716
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: flags that we have seen for the last couple of weeks,

717
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: like what do we do.

718
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: That chemistry is the reason their old lineman went a

719
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: yard to downfield that took the touch.

720
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a chemistry issue. I think

721
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: it's a thing that for whatever.

722
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: Raw placement. Look where he's placing the ball and that

723
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: won that bounce. Why are you throwing that so high up?

724
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not a chemistry thing. That's a quarterback thing.

725
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: It's just when it's all these other guys JJ McCarthy

726
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: seems to be on target. When it's when it's justin Jefferson,

727
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: it turns into a stormtrooper. He's just blasting everything.

728
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: He doesn't know where to place the ball for him.

729
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: Reence would have hit if Lakwan had ever seen Star Wars.

730
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Startling Star Wars Star Treks. If we're being honest, he

731
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: could have went off like there.

732
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Was a lot that went wrong there there. It just

733
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Whatever. We'll see that. There are questions, Floria,

734
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: who is your villain for Week one?

735
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: All of the colts because none of them are you

736
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: Like Josh Downs led them.

737
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: In fantasy points with a touchdown.

738
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: He had thirteen yards, like he needed every one of

739
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 3: his three catches to crack ten fantasy points. Michael Pittman

740
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: Junior had less than five. Alec Pearce had less than five.

741
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren had less than five, Like, you cannot start

742
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: these guys. If you have them, I would drop them

743
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: before I would start them, like I'm not I'm not

744
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 3: playing any of my colts and yet oryn.

745
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: If you're desperate. But that's about it.

746
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: We won Riley how but we don't know, like the

747
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: coaches are telling us that as a passer of the football,

748
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers is better, but it was held in check.

749
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: Lie, that is a bullface, Lie, Come on, what did

750
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: they do the week before with with Riley Winnon? We

751
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: got good fantasy production from Pittman and warn.

752
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: You did have more passing yards last week against Jacksonville

753
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: than Philip Patt against Seattle.

754
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, Seattle is.

755
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: Even Seattle. Seattle is a different animal. It's a different

756
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: and for.

757
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: Sure Jags ain't saft either. That's a good defense.

758
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: They're not soft, but they're not the number one tough

759
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: defense like like again. Since Week ten, the Seahawks have

760
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: allowed the lowest completion percentage in passer rating on passes

761
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: to wide receivers.

762
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: All right, anyway, my villain is Joe Burrow. You know

763
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: it hurt, right? You got what five points out of

764
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow five and a half? Let me be specific here,

765
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five passing yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions.

766
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: This is coming off of two really good games. He

767
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: gave you nineteen give you twenty three in that game

768
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: against the Bills, so you thought in what was you know,

769
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: kind of a gotta have it matchup for the Bengals.

770
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, even then their chances were super slim. But

771
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: against the Ravens defense that hasn't been good all year,

772
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: that that he got you next to nothing was Wash

773
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Rivers hugely delay. He had fewer points than Philip Rivers did,

774
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: hugely disappointing in a really really big spot. So if

775
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: you were starting Joe Burrow, I'm guessing you probably didn't

776
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: live to see next week. But if you did, I mean,

777
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: I guess good on you. But it just it was bad, bad,

778
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: bad uh for for Burrow this week I was gonna

779
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: do a wtf is going on? But I'm gonna scrap

780
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: that because we're talking a lot. But I do ask

781
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: some questions from week fifteen, mostly because I wanted to ask.

782
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask LaQuan this question. Are you ready

783
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: to use Trevor Lawrence's proper name now? To some points, No,

784
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: he's an actual name, like not William call him?

785
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: Like?

786
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: What is mom William? I don't think his mom calls him.

787
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: William probably does. I'm pretty sure.

788
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Listen, I respect him, Okay, I respect him. I respect William.

789
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: I respect Trevor. I will not say the mid because

790
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 2: he put a fifty three points in my starting lineup

791
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: against one of my biggest leagues, and I'm very happy

792
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: and grateful for that. But can he keep this momentum

793
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: he got Denver this week? I'm looking at this matchup

794
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: like there could be some wiggle room for him. But

795
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: if he shows up and shows out against Denver, then

796
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: I would no longer call him mid because he will

797
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: be on a hot streak. He has the Mario star power.

798
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: He cannot be touched right now because what we saw,

799
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: not even traves Etn saw him play like that. He

800
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: won a championship, a national title win, and he said

801
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: he's never seen him play like that. So I respect

802
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: the game. But we will see. He'll be put to

803
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: the test. This is the biggest test coming this week.

804
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: If he brings it home to me.

805
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, if again, if you have

806
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you're also not you're honestly riding on him

807
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: every week, right, Like you probably have some of the

808
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: options like this might be the week you back away

809
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: and then you try again in championship week against the Colts.

810
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: If that's what it comes down to, I think that

811
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: that's possible. But last three games, nine touchdown passes, no interceptions,

812
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: also a rushing touchdown.

813
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: I will say it is documented that the last two

814
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: Monday shows, when we're talking about playoff stash and pickups

815
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, mister William was on my list.

816
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: So I will say this, Yeah, but that's because you

817
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: had a roster him in your league. That's it.

818
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: You gotta call it. You gotta call a dude by like,

819
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: not the name he prefers to go by, a little

820
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: bit like you can't just you can't just let it ride.

821
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: You can't just let it what this is I d

822
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: say prices Trevor.

823
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it says William if he wants to

824
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: get on airports and airplants and stuff like that. But whatever, I'm.

825
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: Gonna just I'm gonna start calling you, like, what's your

826
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: middle name?

827
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Not disclosing that I'm you know, I'm gonna start calling that.

828
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Like he wants to be Trevor, Like, let's dude, be Trevor.

829
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

830
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: It's an all time bat. Like look, I ran into

831
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: him in the Fantasy Lively. Kudos to you, Marcus. I

832
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: hope you win it all now. But anyone like me

833
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: all time bad beat. Because he's the first player in

834
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: NFL history to have this stat line that he did yesterday.

835
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: And oh yeah he is.

836
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: He in his whole career had top thirty Fantasy points

837
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: twice and he scored forty five yesterday. Like it was

838
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: the Jets. It was the Jets. Though it was cool

839
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: he put forty five. Okay, here who it is put

840
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: forty five Fantasy points. That's a huge You.

841
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: Didn't have to do all that. You know, they were

842
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: up like thirty and he was still slinging it.

843
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida is j CM back after yesterday.

844
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: It was the Giants.

845
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: You see, come on, the Giants have again ran all

846
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: over all year.

847
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: Who do they get next week they get? Yeah, no

848
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: way am I play him.

849
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: In fact, I'll tell you to sit him right now

850
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: against the Eagles, Like, it was fun to see he

851
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: got the touchdown all of that.

852
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: But I'm not they also were leading the entirety of

853
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: the game. It was perfect game script against the bad matchup, all.

854
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: Right, I mean I do that's fair. I was like,

855
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: I was hoping that that was gonna be Chris Rodriguez

856
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he was a scratch

857
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, and so that that opened things up.

858
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: For freaking.

859
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Uh DJ Moore at two touchdowns? Is DJ Moore a thing? Now?

860
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not.

861
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna trust it. And then come on, like

862
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: did we see that happening in that game? Like show

863
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: me one Fantasy and ash or anybody that said, start

864
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: DJ Moore this week, because like even with Roma Duns

865
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: not being in the game, which he hasn't been in

866
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: the game for a very long time, his dad is

867
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: brbad crashing out right now on the twitters. But uh, yeah,

868
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: I feel like DJ Moore is going to be that

869
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: up and down roller coaster where it's like, we look

870
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: at this game, we get all excited, we paint this

871
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: beautiful picture, and then he lets us down. And that's

872
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: kind of just what it's been. It's been every other week,

873
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: snip snap, snip snap. How can you trust that in

874
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: do or die matchups? In the fantasy playoffs? And I

875
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: look at some of my rosters that I did roster

876
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: Dj Moore and then I dropped and et cetera. I

877
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: picked up bigger and better things, like a Christian Watson.

878
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: But now that he's injured, do I go back to

879
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: the waiver wire and say I can put my trust

880
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: into Dj Moore? Like, it just sounds really nasty and yucky.

881
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: So if you're in those situations, I can understand why

882
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 2: you have to indulge in that. But like for somebody

883
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: that's like sitting pretty at the wide receiver position, I'm

884
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: not even bat in the eye looking that way.

885
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luther Burden has become a bigger part of that offense.

886
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks look good. He looks good

887
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: on his opportunity. I look forward to him in twenty

888
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: twenty six. That's a conversation that needs to be had.

889
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this felt kind of fluky for for DJ Moore.

890
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Touchdown looks amazing though, everyone in the back of the

891
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: end zone.

892
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Some great plays for sure, But yeah, I don't know

893
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: that I trusted all right, Still got a little bit

894
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: more to do. Do some drop zone, do some waiver wire. Also,

895
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: maybe the Harold Fannin watch it may pop up a

896
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: little bit. Just sticker off for that coming up on

897
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, time to make

898
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: some waiver wire moves, some roster moves as you get

899
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: ready for the second round of your fantasy playoffs. So

900
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: we will start with the drop zone, the folks that

901
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: you are letting go of to make room for people

902
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: on your roster. So who are you saying goodbye to Lukwan.

903
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Zach Sharpney if you're still rostering him? Like him and

904
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker are just unusable at this point, Like we're

905
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: looking at fantasy points with single digit numbers next to

906
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: their names, and like it's not a backfield that at

907
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: the back and end of the season right now that's going

908
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: to figure it out and like create the scoring opportunities

909
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: for Kenneth Walker or Zach sharpneing I should have put

910
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Zach Sharbonnay slash Kenneth Walker because neither one of them

911
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: were usable in starting line. I'm sort of the rest

912
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: of the season, and with Thursday against the Rams difficult

913
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: matchup on the ground, we know that they're stingy getting

914
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: guys into the end zone as well. I just feel

915
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: as though now it's time to rid the band aid

916
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: off and look for other options.

917
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fair. I mean it's the Seahawks running backs

918
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: have just been so frustrating all year, and like I say,

919
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: this is the person who was like, you know, waving

920
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: the flag for for Zach Scharbone at the start of

921
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: the year. Uh if she finally had to drop him. No,

922
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: he went to u C l A Stop.

923
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: I know that's your school, weird because you're weirdly adopted,

924
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: so like, good luck with that.

925
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: But I finally dropped him on the Fantasy Live team,

926
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: which means I should probably change my name because the

927
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: name of the team was Sipping Charbonnet. But now he's not.

928
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: He's not on my roster anymore, so I don't know

929
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: if I can keep it. I'm too lazy. I'm not

930
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: going to change it, but that's what it is.

931
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: I get that. So in that league is just Florios,

932
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: So you're as well in one league for a lo

933
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: long time. I had two girlies to one cup. So

934
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: they're no longer on the Rams team. But name's kind

935
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: of cool.

936
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: Eh, Yeah, I get that. I forgot the overlap pie

937
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: was maybe a year or two. It wasn't very long

938
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: that they overlapped a couple of years. It was okay, yeah,

939
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: all right, Florida, were you.

940
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: Dropping Isaiah Likely? You are dead to me? No, I'm kidding.

941
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: Oh but yesterday it was tough Man against the Bengals,

942
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: and like I was talking up Likely saying that he

943
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: had been running with bad luck because he should have

944
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: had a touchdown catch last week. He should have had

945
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: won the week prior to that against the Bengals. He

946
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: went for ninety five yards against the Bengals. And I

947
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: know it.

948
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: It was a game where Lamar threw twelve passes.

949
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: That like, it's hard for anyone to have success when

950
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: your quarterback is throwing twelve passes.

951
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: But in a league.

952
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 3: Where I sat Jake Ferguson, who scored three point six

953
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: fantasy points for Isaiah Likely, I still somehow made the

954
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: wrong decision because likely gave us a big zero.

955
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: So to I I need thirteen and a half fantasy

956
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: points out of two A tongue II looa.

957
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: You know how big that three point six from Jake

958
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: Ferguson would have been. Because ten versus thirteen with Tua

959
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: is a completely other ball game. It shouldn't be a

960
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: lot to ask, but unfortunately it feels like the Tua.

961
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: In the cold getting thirteen. I mean, I like your chances, like,

962
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, but you're gonna be it to

963
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: the end.

964
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: Yet passing to my commissioner was like four to six,

965
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: let's just split the difference and make it five. So

966
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: maybe that pushes it over a little bit, but we'll see. Yeah,

967
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 3: I think League one at four point half the League

968
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: one at six. So the commissioner just made it five.

969
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: It's one of the weirdest seas of this league.

970
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: It is.

971
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't really hate it. I mean

972
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: I really don't. Like he's like, all right, fine, half

973
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: you want this, haf you want that? Like now nobody's happy. Great,

974
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: shout out that him. Sometimes that's what you gotta do.

975
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: It's the commissioner, you know, Marcus is bringing Dad logic

976
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: into this.

977
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. This is what's gonna be now, just just

978
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: look with it. That's all you gotta do. We can

979
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: let go o Xavier Worthy now, and we probably could

980
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: let go of Xavier Worthy a couple of weeks ago.

981
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: But I think, especially now with Gardner Minshew taking over

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs out of the playoff race, you know, and

983
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: not that they're going to pack it in right like,

984
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: I just don't. It's a group of veteran guys who've

985
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: had success. They're not just gonna suddenly just pack it

986
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: up and go home. But Savior Worthy has not consistently

987
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: provided you with much of anything. He hasn't scored a touchdown,

988
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: only one touchdown all year long, that was back in

989
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: week six. Beyond that, it's generally just single digit points

990
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: from Xavier Worthy a lot of times less than you know,

991
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: six or seven points for him. It has been bleaked.

992
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: Now you get a quarterback change. You don't have Patrick

993
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes anymore. I just I don't see any reason to

994
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: even I just look, he was like rostering like seventy

995
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: five percent. I think of NFL I calm leagues, like

996
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to do this to yourself.

997
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: You can move on from from the other team. It's

998
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: like twenty five. Yeah, if he played for the Ravens,

999
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: who will be undrafted?

1000
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 1: You say that Ravens like Walker, those the Raiders. Nobody

1001
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: would know his name, you know, like that's what it is.

1002
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: So early.

1003
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Baker might give him a shot more often than not.

1004
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you see tes Johnson going out there making no.

1005
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: We might need to have a by we maybe later

1006
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: in the week, we may need to have a Jalen

1007
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: McMillan conversation because he's back, so we'll say anyway, those

1008
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: are the guys we're staying bye to. Who are the

1009
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: people Florida that we may be potentially saying hello to

1010
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire this week?

1011
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, if you need a stream, I think Bryce Young

1012
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: is in play next week against the Bucks. Marcus you

1013
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: were talking about on Fantasy Live the other day. You

1014
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: just start quarterbacks against the Bucks. Marcus Mariota has showed

1015
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 3: to be a very safe floor quarterback, but next week

1016
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: could be a game where he's chasing points a little

1017
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: bit too well, depending on what he does on Monday night.

1018
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: But they get they have a favorable matchup next week,

1019
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: and so does Aaron Rodgers. So that is like streaming

1020
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: options for those going a little deeper. There was a

1021
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: lot of running back injuries this week, Michael Carter, because

1022
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 3: Bam Knight was carted off. We already spoke about Jacry

1023
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: crossky Merrit Blake Korum, lq's boy Autric sme, we've.

1024
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Already spoke about.

1025
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: Boy ye raise your hand if you knew who Jawar

1026
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: Johnson Jordan was before yesterday, but he might be the

1027
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: Texas RB one now.

1028
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: Something who was missing Aladdin in the Disney movie, right, and.

1029
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 3: Then de Ricado and Darry Ogumbawally just says, deeper options

1030
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: there receivers, Page Packers, guys, Jayden, Reid, Romeo Dobbs, Matthew Golden,

1031
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: h Jalen Cocher had a really nice long cat talking

1032
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: about it. The floor is low, but the ceiling is

1033
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: high regardless of QB. And then lq's boy two two

1034
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: at well, and then I don't know what Schultz has

1035
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: to do for more people to pick him up, like

1036
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: he's just been a legit tight end one for a

1037
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: sexy game.

1038
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still out there.

1039
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: Darren Waller, because they have a favorable matchup next week

1040
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: and then Kolby Parkinson because LQ you could speak on this,

1041
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: but if Davante is out, I think Parkinson suddenly becomes

1042
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: your top end zone option.

1043
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: He does, and again I text you guys yesterday about

1044
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: the tight end scream. It does not look like it's

1045
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: going anywhere. I hate the play when even when it works,

1046
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it just calls this destruction.

1047
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: And then when ye Hutchinson steps in the middle of it,

1048
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: it's even worse.

1049
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: But I showed you guys a tweet from twenty twenty one.

1050
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: I've hated this play since being a Rams fan, Like,

1051
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: I just do not like the play. It's just dumb

1052
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: and when it doesn't work, it looks horrible. And then

1053
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: that happens. But with Davonte Adams down, he does become

1054
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: more of a full time reliant, like red zone target

1055
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: for Stafford, just because we see these little bootleg underneafs

1056
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 2: and then he bullies his way into the end zone.

1057
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 2: That's kind of what Parkinson is. I mean, it wasn't

1058
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: a touchdown, but they called it a touchdown. Lions fans

1059
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: keep Brian. Put the cage back, put the cat back

1060
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: in the cage and call it a day.

1061
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, touchdown too. So that's true. That's that's a really

1062
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: good matchup. They're not good absolutely Seattle.

1063
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Tyler Warren had the match up against Seattle,

1064
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: but it was Philip Rivers, Okay, Riley Leonard who should

1065
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: be included on the waiver wire. Florio needs to be

1066
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: the starter to get Tyler. Yes, yes, I'm start off.

1067
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: I just kidding, kidding.

1068
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: I just want to start.

1069
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: Forgetting guys outside l I just want to see Riley

1070
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 4: go Monday Night next week. Come on, what's gonna be

1071
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: more fun? Beating the winers? No, beating the whiners?

1072
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard will just make this entire birthday week honestly.

1073
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Like you don't know, So I'm gonna I'm gonna push

1074
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: back on that one, I think for you, for you personally,

1075
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, beating the forty nine ers would be much

1076
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: more satisfying to you than Riley Leonard.

1077
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: It'll be more embarrassing, but.

1078
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm much more satisfying to you than ry I was

1079
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: out there for you personally. The quan Just like, what.

1080
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Is LK gonna say if Philip Rivers and the Colts

1081
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: beat Seattle right now.

1082
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 3: Like I was sitting there, I was rooting for it,

1083
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: even though it's better for the Bills if Seahawks won,

1084
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: But like, I just want chaos if Philip Rivers.

1085
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I had the Rams game on

1086
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: the big screen, and then I had the Colts game

1087
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: on my phone on NFL Plus and I'm sitting here

1088
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: watching game in and now, and I'm like, it just

1089
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like Rivers is about to get this feel

1090
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: good story victory. Like it just didn't feel that way

1091
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: because it's still the Seahawks, bro, And like I knew

1092
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Myers was gonna go out there and hit the game.

1093
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: Like it's just like that's just what it is, you know,

1094
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: Like and Rivers played his heart out, like I give

1095
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: him the respect and credit, but it's like, bro, come on,

1096
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: you could have got more out of Riley Leonard.

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00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: If they were gonna If they were gonna win though,

1098
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like a six team fifteen kind

1099
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: of score, Like they weren't gonna they weren't gonna win

1100
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: a you know, twenty seven to twenty five.

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00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: It was it gonna be a bomb to Alec Pearson there,

1102
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: you know, game winner, No, no, not at all.

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00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was the whole thing about Kobe Parkinson and

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00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: tight ends, which time for Harold fannin watched. So in

1106
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: case you forgot, last year, Lakwan made a bet that

1107
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: if John new Smith finished as a top five tight end,

1108
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: he would dye his hair blonde. John new finished tight

1109
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: end four. You showed up looking like Cisco. So this

1110
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: summer you decided to double down, he said you would

1111
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: do even this summer it was fresh blode.

1112
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: It was February where I made this gamble with my

1113
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: son dyeing my hair again.

1114
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: Uh fine, but you said you die your hair blonde again.

1115
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: If Harold fan and Junior finished as the as a

1116
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: top five tight end, he's currently the tight end eight

1117
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty five points. He's ten points

1118
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: back behind Tyler Warren. Right now, who is the tight

1119
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: end five? You know in between them, Dallas Goddard and

1120
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. Now here's the thing. Harold Fannon did not

1121
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: have a good game on Sunday against the Bears. Tyler

1122
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: Warren now has to deal with either Philip Rivers or

1123
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard as his quarterback. So both of these guys

1124
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: are sort.

1125
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: Of backing up right, now, do you understand this is

1126
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: how the Johnny Smith story ended as well, Like guys

1127
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: were just declining and Johnny just kept rising. They kept

1128
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: having like these two touchdown games and then like a

1129
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: freaking forty target shair because Mike Mdanon won the game

1130
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: to the top five, Like I feel like this is

1131
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: going to happen again. Hell keep saying with me. Now,

1132
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: go Bills might a matchup and that's who gets Fanning

1133
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: this week.

1134
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: So Dallas gotters tight end six, brock Bowers is tight

1135
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: end seven, so they are so they have he has

1136
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: to leap frog those two guys and Warren to get

1137
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: into the top five.

1138
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: Which is possible because we have brock Bowers, Henny freaking

1139
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: Picket And look, I'm rooting for Dallas godd because he's

1140
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: getting all those design plays, low shuffle passes inside the five,

1141
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: like cool, you keep scoring because that will keep Fanning

1142
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: in check. He'll finish as tight end six maybe, but

1143
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: it's really the Tyler Warren in the brock Bowers of

1144
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: the world. And then even looking at Jake Ferguson, who's

1145
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: been single digit list, like it's one of those things

1146
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: that the last three games were the last two games.

1147
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: I should say this could possibly happen if he blows

1148
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: up against the Steelers and tops it all off.

1149
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: Oh, this is gonna be fun.

1150
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: Wait a second week, get John new versus Fanning. Oh

1151
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: my god, this is gonna be beautiful.

1152
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: World's colliding John Neu versus fan.

1153
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 3: I just want to point out real quick, j McBride

1154
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: has more than ninety points than any other tight end, Like, yeah,

1155
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 3: one of the biggest positional.

1156
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Advantages probably in fantasy history. Shout out to him.

1157
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was why I had him as

1158
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: my tight end one this year.

1159
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: Damn. I think we all had agreed in the summer

1160
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: that he should be tight should be the tied end one.

1161
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: Two years in a row he should have been, And

1162
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: yet finally he will get it now.

1163
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: And that's finally he's getting touchdowns. That's what it is.

1164
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: He has more touchdowns from Jacoby Brissett than Kyler Murray

1165
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: has in his entire career. Like it's insane. Wow.

1166
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: All right, So as as we wrap up the show,

1167
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Lakwana's your birthday on Sunday, So happy belated birthday. Actually

1168
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: we saw you on Saturday also, so we've we've kind

1169
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: of worked into the days. But you know, we have

1170
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: you a hard time about a lot of things on

1171
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: this show, some of which you have rightfully earned. But

1172
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: you know what, we're not all We're not all bad.

1173
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: We're not all about tweaking you right like we we

1174
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: genuinely love having you on the show. We've all become friends.

1175
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: It's great having you here, and so as a gesture

1176
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: of good faith and because we like you, I reached

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00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: out to a mutual friend of ours lquh and asked

1178
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: if he could record a birthday message for you. So, Kyrie,

1179
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: if you've got that, can we play the birthday message clip.

1180
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: On?

1181
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 5: First of all, let me get this out of the way.

1182
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 5: Happy birthday man, Happy tripper on the Sun. I hope

1183
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 5: this year brought you some wisdom, joy, peace.

1184
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: And love.

1185
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's your personal new Year. Hope you

1186
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 5: enjoy your day. So, how the hell haven't you seen

1187
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: Star Wars by Brouh?

1188
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: Are you serious? I thought we were tight.

1189
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: I thought we vibed on every level.

1190
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: We definitely on.

1191
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 5: Rams, football and fatherhood and shopping at the same grocery store.

1192
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 5: Had I known you have never seen the greatest series?

1193
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: Soaka knowing the man, I wouldn't have gave you a

1194
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 5: second thought. Get you.

1195
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: In front of the TV asap.

1196
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, me and Marcus are going

1197
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 5: to have a movie wise today so we can get

1198
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: you up to date. You just can't let this stand.

1199
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 5: Happy birthday here.

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00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: God.

1201
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: That was former Rams defensive lineman and Ram's sideline reported

1202
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: to Marco Farr. Who you guys are like some of

1203
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: my neighbors. Right, you guys run into each other at

1204
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: the grocery store regularly.

1205
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: Right quite often?

1206
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: Man?

1207
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: That was freaking great, Thank you.

1208
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1209
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: Like the thing is, it's like I've seen DeMarco at

1210
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: the grocery store, at the same grocery store twice, but

1211
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: then a third time across town at another grocery store.

1212
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, there's no way this has happened. What

1213
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: are you doing here? But I do I do respect,

1214
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: you know, I do need to see Star Wars then,

1215
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: because if it's that big of a deal, then you know,

1216
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: all right, I'll venture in to see what Star Wars.

1217
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: I can dip my toe.

1218
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: And it has only been a major part of American

1219
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: culture for almost fifty years.

1220
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: Now, right, dude, I told you my first fourteen years

1221
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: of Life. I got that confused with Star Trek, like

1222
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: that was dead serious series.

1223
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: IDA get it, Like that's fine, but you're you're well

1224
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: beyond fourteen.

1225
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Now, yes, you know, I will watch before it was

1226
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: never seen Back to the Future. Don't make me the

1227
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: only guy that haven't seen any culture movies Series.

1228
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: Three, Back to the Future films. There's like a whole

1229
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: universe literally of Star Wars movies.

1230
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 2: I guess that's like never seen the Avengers I got.

1231
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: Actually it's worse than never having seen The Avengers.

1232
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: It really it came.

1233
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Out almost fifty years ago, like they've made nine whole movies,

1234
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: had a ton of television shows like, yeah, The Avengers

1235
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: was a big, big deal, Like, I get it, that's

1236
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: kind of recent. That's recent. I'm sorry.

1237
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: A lot of shows have done Star Wars spin offs

1238
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1239
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: Well, so we have, we have, we have a couple

1240
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: of movies for the Film Festival this offseason. Oh yeah,

1241
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one. Yeah, it's not for sure. So anyway,

1242
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: happy birthday, dude, that's the longest shaking man. Happy. I

1243
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: appreciate your birthday from DeMarco Farr as well. So anyway,

1244
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: that will do it for this edition of the NFL

1245
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, safe, it healthy, do good

1246
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody. We'll talk to

1247
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: you again on Wednesday, m