1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, they gave us a podcast, and they gave 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: us a podcast. We are so hello, Hello, here we 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: are and the podcast. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm Freddie Rodriguez. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: Say my name is my name? My name, I'm Wilmer Valderama. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for all of you who have been 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: witnessing this union. It feels like it's like a wedding now, no, 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I I just also want to call out to all 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: the fans and and all the supporters of the podcast. 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're a couple of episodes in now and 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the feedback has been awesome, you know, and you guys 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: are downloading and that means a lot to us because 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: these conversations as therapeutic as they are for us, yeah, 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: so they're also for you. 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: It's like a big therapy. 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Session, like every dinner and every coffee you and I 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: have ever it is. 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just sort of unloading, you know. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Ask me how I'm doing. 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: How are you I'm tired? You're tired? 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I'm really tired. 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: But but but why are you tired? And we had 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: this discussion upstairs, but we're gonna we're gonna open it 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: up to the audience. Where are you tired? 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired because I've I've realized that in 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: the growth of some of my entrepreneurial ambitious I realized 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: that I'm only one man. Yes, and I've been really 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: privileged to have like an amazing team, right, Like the 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: department heads of all of our our entire company do 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful, effortless job of keeping you know, the dream 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: rolling in different. 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: Hills, you know. 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: So, so that's been that's been great. But I'm a 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: little tired because I'm also shooting a full time show. 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I'm shotting a full procedural drama on on CBS, and 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: so in between takes, I'm sending my emails. Between scenes, 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm making calls, and lunchtime I'm doing my zooms. And 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: then when I get home, I finish my catchups and 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: I read the scripts that I got to read or 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Yeah, and then I hang out with 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: my four year old daughter, and you know, and that's 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of how it's been. It's been working, you know, 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: But I. 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Don't know how you find the hours in the day. Really, 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: it's impressive, bro, I'm not I'm not just saying that 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: because you're in front of me. I thought I worked 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: hard and then I saw you and I was like, 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: I ain't got sh it on this, No, bro, you. 49 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: Know you know what it is. I think we talk 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: about it all the time. 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you get an opportunity to do 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: something our families have never done, and you're like, well, 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: not only have to really know it, yeah, but I 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: also have to now kind of you know, drive it forward. 55 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: You know, I have to kind. 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Of like, okay, do it in a level that nobody's 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: ever done before. And you know which actually kind of 58 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: drives us, you know, to to our episode of the week. 59 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot about what we've been talking all 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: the way up to now. And you know, yes, if 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: anybody can hear that, it's my washer and dry that's 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: just outside the door. 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Just didn't just didn't. You know we are and to 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: speak easy. You got you do have to go through 65 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: the life room. 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: You got coffee, you got laundry, I got it tied 67 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: and downy, we got room keys. 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: But without without like strain too far away from the episode. 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: One of the things that I was excited to explore 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: today is the audacity to dream something different than our family. 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: How and why did we have the you know, last 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: to dream something our parents were so far remove know 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: they were, you know, and and I wanted to explore 74 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: it because in the last couple of episodes we've gone 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: to know each other's stories before we were even an 76 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: idea to our family. And you know, the inspirations, the 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: thing that it took. 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: What was that break? You know? 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: But like the mentality, like what multi generational expectation did 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: you have to break to make what we do possible? 81 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, you know, you know 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: where I'm going, and you know, I know we covered 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: a little bit of this in the previous episode, but 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: I think what you're saying is, and this is where 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: both of our families are similar because they came from 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: somewhere else to the United States. Is there's a bit 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: of a one track mind, right, wouldn't you agree a 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: little bit? 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Right? We're families because they're somewhere else. Right, Your family 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: was in Venezuelan and Colombia, in Puerto Rico, and and uh, 91 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: you know, there is this mentality of like we're gonna 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: leave this beautiful country landscape weather, uh, and We're going 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: to go somewhere else because that's where the opportunities are, right, 94 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: And I think that there's a bit of a blueprint 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: that comes with that. Right. Sometimes a blueprint is you 96 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: go there, you go to school, you get a job, 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: you get married, you have a couple of kids, and 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: that's the way life goes. And that blueprint is to 99 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: be repeated in some way. And when you deviate from 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: that blueprint is when I guess us we have to 101 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: ask ourselves what you just said? You know, where do 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: we get the audacity. 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: I mean and bigging back in with what you're saying. 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a sort of interesting thing to reflect 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: that that our parents were also taught by their their 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: parents and their parents' parents to do enough to survive, right, 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: like continue to search and making sure the light stays on. 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Survive is the key word there, right. 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: Like and in our culture, you know, we're we're workers, right, 110 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: We're you. 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: Know, we're we are in the beehive, like just working 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: and working and working, you know, and you know, and 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: I think that you know, I think I also wonder 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: there was always thinking my dad. Did my dad think 115 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: about long terms to build? I don't think he was 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: equipped to understand how to create multi generational wealth or 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: what he was going to. 118 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: Leave behind right. 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: I think he was kind of caught in a web 120 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: where he just needed to make sure there was enough 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: food on the table and that we had a roof, 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: no matter, no matter the cost to himself and my parents' 123 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: relationship and that of stuff. So it's interesting to think 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: about that, and that's why, like that sacrifice almost made 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, that sacrifice. 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: Is being made so I can do something more right, right. 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: And I don't know where along the way I thought 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: that that was what the sacrifice was for, but I 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: quite literally think now as I look back, not just 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: culturally but the trajectory of the Valda Lama family, everything 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: that was done just so it was so. 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: We, my sisters and I had a better shot, And like, 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: why aren't you gonna do that better shot? 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: You remember you telling me about your your grandfather, the 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: hard heart is working guy. You got a day off 137 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna help my neighbor paint the. 138 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: House, right, you know what I mean? 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Like like it's it's like the ever search of just 140 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: not just being in service, but like affording you. 141 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: A better step in the ladder, like a little. 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: Higher stuffing about it, right, Like to get closer to 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, do you know where I'm going with one percent? 144 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: And that's a really interesting observation. I think that I 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: don't think i'm speaking abo having my parents too, right. 146 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that my parents or my dad, or 147 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: my uncles or aunts came to Chicago and we're thinking 148 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: about generational wealth or what to leave behind or any 149 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: of the things that you just mentioned. I think they 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: were just trying to survive, right, check a check right 151 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: week per week, maybe save a little bit and go 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: and buy a house, or buy a building, or maybe 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: invest a little here and there. But I think that 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: that was the extent of it. I think that that 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: them us growing up in the States, we started to 156 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: learn about generational wealth. We started to learn about leaving 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: things behind or leaving stuff behind for our kids. And 158 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: that's one of the luxuries that we get from living here, right, 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: That that that our that our folks didn't get when 160 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: they were living where they were living. 161 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: At So so in that same vein, like, what do 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: you think what was the common denominator from for for 163 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: us to have a different mentality, right, Like, we had 164 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: to have been aware of the struggle, right, that's number 165 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: one I would say, like, that's ingredient number one. See 166 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: our parents struggling to keep it even Yeah, Like maybe 167 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: that's the ingredient one. But then like what makes you go, 168 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to be this right? And but for us, like, 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: look again, we picked a whole artist states get in 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: so so do as we say, not as we did, right, 171 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: But it is a very funny thing to think about, Like, 172 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, now I'm going to be a little 173 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: more ambition than ambitious than my parents. 174 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: But like what made you go, Oh, but I'm going 175 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: to go that much more ambitious? 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Let me ask you something before you decided 177 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: to go down this path, were there other things that 178 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: you were interested in, other professions that you were interested 179 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: in or interested in pursuing, Like what what were you 180 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: interested in? 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: So when I first got to the United States at thirteen, yeah, coo, 182 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: so I was about to turn fourteen, but really I 183 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: was thirteen. I wanted to be a pilot for the 184 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: Air Force. I wanted to fight and f sixteen No way, man. 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I saw those those fighter jets and I was like, 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: I want to do that, and I want to do 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: it wearing the American flag on my shoulder. 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: He's like, that's what I want to be. 189 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I started meeting different people from different branches of the military, 191 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to serve, you know. 192 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: And the other one was psychology. 193 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Hmm. 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: I was fascinated by strangers. 195 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I am still very much fascinated by the human mind. 197 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: You know how every decision is based on thousands of echoes, 198 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: of lessons and traumas that shape your instinct every single day, 199 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: And like peeling those layers was fascinating to me, you know, 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's that's that was an interesting 201 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: thing for me. 202 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I was fascinated by it. I was really 203 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: intrigued by it. And I think as soon as I 204 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: become an actor, it's like, oh I. 205 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Can I can't play I'll play a pilot on TV 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: or a film, and but at the same time, I 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: get to explore individuals, people and all these characters. 208 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: But you don't but you don't think that if you 209 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: would have gone down the path of becoming a pilot 210 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: or or or psychology, you don't think that you would 211 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: have approached that with the same fervor and ambition that 212 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: you approached acting. So it may be, it may be 213 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: that that component was in you no matter what, right, 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: and you just happened to choose acting and so then 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: you activated that component in you that made you go 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: further than So this would have been inevitable in whatever 217 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: profession you would have chosen. 218 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, which, which is kind of what I'm trying to 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: get to, you know, I'm trying to get to what 220 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: is the common denominator that could really. 221 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: Be passed on? 222 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 223 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: Like what how do we pass this on to everyone listening? 224 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: Right? 225 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: Like how do they relate to this point? 226 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 227 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: And we're trying to make everyone out there it's either 228 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: carrying the burden of multi generation or inheritance. 229 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 230 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Right, some maybe enjoying, right, enjoying what's been passed down, 231 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: right and right. But but but for most people, like 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: like us growing up, we were passed down you know, 233 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: the ability to just like survive, like just do enough 234 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: to live, you know what I mean, and be a worker, 235 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, work hard work or work as many hours 236 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: as you can, you know, because that's like that was 237 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: the way. 238 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you? 239 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Did you would you have had a different profession at 240 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: some point? 241 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: Do you think? 242 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Because I know your family was going in one direction, right, 243 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: your brother. 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think back I and I know I've 245 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: said this a couple of times. I just wasn't you know, 246 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't interested in anything else, Like, there was nothing 247 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: else I was particularly interested in. And so when I 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: discovered the arts, I think that I think that one, 249 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: I was born with a certain uh and I'm just 250 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: ambitious person by nature, and so I think that whatever 251 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: I would have chosen, if I was passionate about it, 252 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I would have approached it with the same ambition and fervor. 253 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: I think that survival, right our our family's position in 254 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: the United States and their need for survival was injected 255 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: in me at such a young age, and so there 256 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: was this there was this do or die attitude. You know, 257 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: there was this all my eggs that are in one 258 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: basket attitude because you know, I didn't have a trust fund, right, 259 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: My family wasn't rich. I didn't have anything to fall 260 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: back on, and so there was this attitude of like, 261 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: this is going to work or nothing, buddy, and that's it. Yeah, 262 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: because I had not I didn't have rich parents, or 263 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: I didn't have like a rich uncle who was going 264 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: to leave me a million bucks. 265 00:13:54,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: You know, do you think that's what's missing from most ingredients. 266 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: So for most recipes to success, the ambition aspect. No, 267 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: what you had just mentioned is like it has to work. 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: I have anything else, I want to do nothing else. 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: You think that leap and faith in you is what 270 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Actually it's the ingredient that that that separates you from 271 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: trying it and doing it? 272 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: You know, is it? Is it sort of the magic bullet? 273 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: Is it the magic ingredient? 274 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: You have to be that delusional to be like, I mean, 275 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I can't do nothing else? 276 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Why else? But why else would you choose a profession 277 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: where where you just don't know where your next check 278 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: is coming from? You have to be a tad delusional 279 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: in order to right and and it and it's you 280 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: against the two three hundred other people. 281 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: And we're the first parachute is in our family? 282 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: Right? Like, yeah, you know, while while you're you know, 283 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: I've met your your siblings. You know they all are normal. 284 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, I like you and I Marilyn and 285 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: I are pretty crazy. 286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: No, but they you know, right, they they did what 287 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: what the parents expected them to do and are doing 288 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: very well at it. Right. But but we had a 289 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: certain we had a screw loose uh in there to 290 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: say I'm gonna. 291 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: Jump in the ring and this is the only thing 292 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: I want to do, and this is it. 293 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: So I mean that trigger is something for me because 294 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: I had made a promise to my parents. 295 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: Going back to that episode, what we talked about. 296 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: My dad's car was tolen, and I told my dad, 297 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: don't worry, Dad, I'm gonna be an actor. I'm gonna 298 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: make this money and I'm gonna have restaurants and i'm gonna, 299 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna we're gonna buy us a house. 300 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: We're never gonna have to pay rent again. That are 301 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: like all these things that I have promised. I feel 302 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: like when he gave me permission, like when he said, okay, mayho, 303 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you can do that, I feel like, oh, not only 304 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: he gave me permission, Not only he say yes, I 305 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: could go to soccer practice, you know, to acting class. 306 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: I know, like you could try that. But I feel like, Okay, 307 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: now I have to make this work because. 308 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: You made a promise. Yeah. 309 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, I don't know, and I and I 310 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: think this this hypothesis, this interesting philosophy or equestion. 311 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: So you were being beholden to this thing I had 312 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: committed you committed. 313 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I committed. 314 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: I committed to saying this is okay, I got to 315 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: take care of my family. I'm taking the role of 316 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: this was fifteen years old, right, I'm like, I'm gonna 317 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: make sure that we don't have to worry like this again, 318 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: and then my mom and my dad doesn't have to 319 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: worry this hard. 320 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: And you're the oldest, right, the oldest. Yeah, so there's 321 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: also that component being the oldest the two younger sisters, 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: right like right, like you know. 323 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think I still I'm still wondering what 324 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: was that that other thing? Right because you go, okay, 325 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: well I'm gonna be I'm going to be an actor. 326 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Right I could just learn how to speak English three 327 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: years before that, right right, right, like I'm going to 328 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: be an actor and thinking it was just like saying 329 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a lawyer, I'm going to be 330 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: a cop, I'm going to. 331 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: Be a teacher, like it was just like going to 332 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: be an actor, like what But. 333 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: But I remember you saying when when you started to 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: tell me that you started acting, I was like, well, Wilmore, 335 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: did did you do it? When you told me your 336 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: story about you know, your first auditions, and all that, 337 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, did you do it before? And 338 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: you were always like, well, I was. I was sort 339 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: of the class clown. I was sort of this So 340 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: like you, you you recognize that you had this particular 341 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: ability way way before you had the audacity of hope. Right, 342 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: So maybe subconsciously you were like, well, I I was 343 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: born with an ability to kind of do it. Yeah. 344 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: Maybe that was as opposed to saying I want to 345 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: be a star? Are I want? 346 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, there's nothing 347 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: wrong with that. 348 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 2: You know. Uh, you know it's funny, and this is 349 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: like an awful comparison, but just follow me for a second. 350 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: I remember reading an article with Michael Jordan and they 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: said they asked him, you know, could could anybody be 352 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan? And he said no, people could be at 353 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: different levels or degrees of Michael Jordan goes, but I 354 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: was born with a with a very specific ability to 355 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: do what I do, and and within my journey, I 356 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: just I just kept developing that thing, that skill that 357 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: I was born with, you know. And he recognized that 358 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: really early on, you know, So it could be that 359 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: you were born with a very specific ability to do 360 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: something your your subconscious told you that, and you just 361 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: kind of went with that because because what else would 362 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: make you go that crazy to put your eggs in 363 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: that basket? You know what I mean? 364 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, because I was always in dancing and actings. 365 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I was six years old, but I did it just 366 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: because it was mandatory in school, right, Like in Venezuela, 367 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: these classes are mandatory, but you must. 368 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: Have gotten everybody's doing it, but you must have gotten 369 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: somebody going like hey. 370 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I mean I saw people laughing, right, probably more than 371 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: everybody else. Was tasting the fruits of an entertainer. I 372 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm entertaining high school right right. But 373 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: but they were not until I came to the United States, 374 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: where I was like, okay, the more acting now I 375 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: do it in school, the better my English, right right, 376 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: so using it from my English, and then there I 377 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you should do some commercials. You make 378 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: some money here there or whatever. And that's like that's like, wha, 379 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: I can make money doing this thing. 380 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 381 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I never was thinking I was going to be like successful, 382 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: famous actor like that. The ambition wasn't that I'm going 383 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: to be the most famous, you know. The ambition was 384 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: like Oh, I heard that I can make a couple 385 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: of commercials and make little money, right, and then that 386 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: turned into the first pilot of you know, the show. 387 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: And but but but A foundation of that was rooted 388 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: in very early experiences when you were doing it in school. 389 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: And I'm sure everybody I was. 390 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Subliminately shopping a tool, right, like basically but everybody. 391 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure it was getting a laugh. But the laughs 392 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: and the looks might have been different towards you, because 393 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: I think that people recognize or might have recognized, an 394 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: ability that you may not have even recognized in yourself. 395 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't think. 396 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I fully comprehended that I maybe was 397 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: equipped to do it, Yeah, until I started doing it. 398 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: What about you, did you have a moment where you 399 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: were like, wait, I've never done this before, but it 400 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: came natural. 401 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember I was in the seventh grade and 402 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: I had a teacher named mister Levine, And like I 403 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: said in the previous episodes, we had no arts at 404 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: all at school, and he would he would make it 405 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: a point that on Fridays he would inject some form 406 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: of art in the class. And we were having a 407 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: talent show at our school. Did you guys have talent shows? 408 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: We were having a talent show. And I don't know 409 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: how he got this because this was pre internet, but 410 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: he went and he got a scene from Different Strokes, 411 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, with Gary Coleman, that TV show, and he 412 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: must have seen something in me that I didn't see, 413 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: because he said, look at the talent show, We're going 414 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: to do the scene from Different Strokes and you're going 415 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: to play Arnold. And I was seventh it was seventh grade, 416 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: so I was like twelve, you know, and I was 417 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: like okay, and so like I got up, and this 418 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: was at a point in my life when like I 419 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: just I was just really lost, and I wasn't in sports, 420 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't doing anything really and I got on that 421 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 2: stage and I performed the scene from Different Strokes, and 422 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: I saw the look on everyone's face, and it was 423 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 2: the first time that anyone looked at me like I 424 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: was doing something that was good wow, which I'm sure 425 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: must be the look that someone gets when they're really 426 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: good at baseball, when they're really good at basketball, when 427 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: they're really good at a math paper, when people go, WHOA, 428 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: you're different, You're good at this thing, and it was 429 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: the first time anyone looked at me like that. So 430 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with like, oh the applause 431 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: or like I'm going to be a star. 432 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 3: What did that mean to you? 433 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, it's the first time anyone's looked 434 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: at me like that. Maybe I'm onto something. And then 435 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: the next year is when this theater company came to 436 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: my school and I got involved. And part of the 437 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: motivation for getting involved was that experience I had the 438 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: year prior, when I was like twelve, you know, so 439 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 2: you probably don't remember, but you might have had the 440 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: same experiences when you were in Venezuela, where people were 441 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: kind of like, well, well on a second, you know, 442 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: the arts is a requirement for everybody, but there's something 443 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: a little a little different about this. 444 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: Guy, right, Yeah, No, for sure, I remember a clear 445 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: moment where I was on stage and I said something 446 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and the entire audience started laughing, and I was like, yeah, well, 447 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: I like the way that failed, you. 448 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and I just kind of kept kept kept 449 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: at it. 450 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: But beyond the feeling you and you're probably your young 451 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: brain was too young to comprehend, but beyond just the 452 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: feeling of people laughing at your joke. Maybe subconsciously you 453 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: were like, oh, I possess a certain natural ability to 454 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: do this, you understand, It's like something that you were 455 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: an inherent ability that you were born with, as opposed 456 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: to like I'm gonna be up there and just make 457 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: everybody laugh and get all the girls. 458 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, glasgown is different than like an actual artist. Right. 459 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: If you were to give somebody who is listening to this, 460 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: this this conversation a word of advice to break that 461 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: like multi generational expect expectance, there is this multi generational 462 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: inheritance that that says like you got to do the 463 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: same as your whole family. Like what what advice would 464 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you give somebody that says like, dude, like you don't understand, right, 465 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: like like I've ever heard it all the time, right, like, 466 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: oh you don't understand. Lucky for you for la la 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: la la, it wasn't very lucky for us spirit like 468 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: you took some interesting stuff, right. But I think to 469 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: you to your point, like you know, what a word 470 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: of advice would you give those who are just saying 471 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: like you know, ah man, easy for somebody else or 472 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand is to. 473 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: Uh listen to that inner voice inside that's telling you 474 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: that you possess a particular ability that may not fall 475 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: in line with what your family expects you to do, 476 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: you know. And I think that that's where you and 477 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: I are very similar, right, Like we we at a 478 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: very young age discovered that we possessed a certain ability 479 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: and that, maybe not consciously, was the driving factor behind 480 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: our audacity to hope. Right, And so for any other 481 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: person that's in a similar position as us, is to 482 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: have the audacity to hope and to and to go 483 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: out there and to chase your dream, but to listen 484 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: to that voice inside of you that's telling you that 485 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: you're good at this thing, you know, and to give 486 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: it a shot. Right, I mean you would you say 487 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: something different? 488 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I think that's a very very important thing 489 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: to empower. 490 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: Right. 491 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I would also say if I was asked that, you know, 492 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was listening to your advice. The 493 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: reason why I was getting pantservice because it really triggered 494 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: a lot of different things that individuals had to me. 495 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: That all amount is coming back to. But also there's 496 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: like a fragment. 497 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Anthem of things that happened that made me go I 498 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: can do it, right, put me in the driver's seat. 499 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 500 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: You know that the one thing that makes you sit 501 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: in the front road at the classroom, you know, the 502 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: thing that makes you go, I'm gonna raise my hand 503 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: before everybody else. That's the that's the ship right there. 504 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: You gotta like cultivate. That's the stuff right there that 505 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: you gotta be like pay attention to. You know, if 506 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: you're the first one to raise your hand, if you're 507 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: the first one to sit in the front, if you're 508 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: the first one to turn in your test, you're going 509 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: to be the first one to be trusted to try. 510 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: Ah. Right, So that was that's what I would probably 511 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: tell people. 512 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: Cultivate your your search for excellence and you'll find yourself 513 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: doing what you love. 514 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: Cultivate your search for excellence. Cultivate that because it's in 515 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: the search. It's in how you perfect the search process. 516 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, that gets you to do what you love. 517 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Because the more you practice that, the better your attempts, 518 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: the better your product, the better your ideals, your values 519 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: get shaped into the traits you need to hold success later. 520 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: That's what I would say, right, Like, just obsess over 521 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: perfecting the art, right you know of manifestation, which is 522 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: like I went aisle. If somebody says we need a volunteer, 523 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: you don't raise your hand, you walk up right. 524 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: That there's a difference between like all volunteer. 525 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: See if they pick me right and I need a volunteer, 526 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna walk right up and just you. 527 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 3: Know, there's there's a difference. Right. 528 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: Remember in the first couple of usas we're talking about 529 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: like you know, one hundred percent of the actors, you know, 530 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: like fifty percent are gonna do this. You know, the 531 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: other forty percent is going to do that five percent 532 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: is going to do, you know, something they think is different, 533 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: and then that other five percent is going to approach 534 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: it in. 535 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: A way that feels like this is an attraction. 536 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: I gotta watch somebody make this choice, right, So I 537 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: think for me to you know, just kind of piggyback, 538 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: and what you're triggered to me is that I would say, 539 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: if somebody asks for a volunteer, you don't raise your 540 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: hands say I'm down. You walk up and say it's 541 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: me right, right, So you start perfecting the the art 542 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: of being audacious about Yeah, that's you're going. 543 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: To be trusted. You'll be the first one to be 544 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: trusted to do what you want to do. 545 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: But it's how much you upsess over the process of 546 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: perfecting the art of it that is kind of make 547 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: you give you the ability to hold on to that opportunity, right, 548 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: And it's not getting the opportunity, it's about holding it right, right, 549 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: because hard work and give you the opportunity. Right, hard 550 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: work and working on your craft is going to give 551 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: you the opportunity. But it's it's how landless you're going 552 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: to be about holding it. That's where the hard work, 553 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, comes in. 554 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think about that? 555 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you're saying. And when that moment 556 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: of truth happens, you know, I can't even begin to 557 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: tell you how many jobs I've gotten because like I 558 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: get in the room with somebody and I'm like, no, 559 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: this is this is me, Like this is my you 560 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: know something about I don't know what the confidence that 561 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: that that I bring to to knowing the character or 562 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: the project or whatever, that that kind of put me 563 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: over the edge, you know, because the person on the 564 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: other side wants to feel confident and comfortable that they're 565 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: hiring someone who really understands the material and the project 566 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: and it's going to deliver, right, So there's a certain 567 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: confidence and that that I've walked in with And is. 568 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: That kind of what you're saying? 569 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Holding that and the confidence come from you know, you 570 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: have done the work right, So you're not going to 571 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: volunteer by walking all the way up. Yeah, if you 572 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm going to pull this off, right. 573 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's not as soon as I missed, you 574 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 575 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: Dude? 576 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, so that's that's kind of how it works. 577 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: But but anyways, thank you for it. Indo me in 578 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: that I think this was this was kind of a 579 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: fun one too, you know, as we start leading into 580 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: this this you know, the you know, the the other 581 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: explorations of this show. I'm very excited to eventually have 582 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: a you know, have a guest here. I get someone 583 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe reflects and another expertise that you 584 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: and I are like, oh, man, tell me more about aliens. 585 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: I want to get through the alien episode. 586 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: The alien episode. 587 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: That's what I want. Give me what I want. I 588 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: want an alien episode. 589 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it'll be interesting. 590 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Right. 591 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: So like here, I'm pretty sure any any other actor 592 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: or whatever, like who's worth their weight in salt have 593 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: had very similar experiences like that, right who have who 594 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: come up to their sort of moment of truth of like, 595 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: oh wait a minute, there's something there that I was 596 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: born with that I'm going to continue. 597 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: Then you cultivate into an art form, you cultivate into 598 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: a service, you cultivate into. 599 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: You know, to a product and you package it and 600 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: people you know, you. 601 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Remember DJ Am, Yeah, I do remember DJ So he 602 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: was one of my best friends. And Am and I 603 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: would talk about this stuff late night all the time, really, 604 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and he said to me, do something, No, find something, 605 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: he said, find something that. 606 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: You love to do so much that you would do. 607 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: It for free and then get somebody to pay you 608 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: for it. 609 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, he was man the inventor of like the mash. 610 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's sweet Home Alabama with Biggie. 611 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, Like he's such an incredible DJ. 612 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: And we miss him because he was a pioneer. He 613 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: would have been the guy with a residence yead Abiza. 614 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: He would have been the guy who would have been 615 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: doing all the radio hits with all the artists like 616 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: cause he was. 617 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: He was a mentor to so many DJs. You know. 618 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Steve Oki was one of his you know, his friends, 619 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: and and he you know, he really helped Steve you know, 620 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: find that groove and then Steve Aoki took it to 621 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: a whole different universe. 622 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: Right. It was performative aspect everything and all that. 623 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: And shout out to you know, Steve Oki, because that's 624 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: my brother right there. You know, many many moons together 625 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: as well. But but yeah, I think am When he 626 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: said that, I was like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, what 627 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: is it that you love to do so much that 628 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: you'll do for free and then somehow find somebody to 629 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: pay you for it? 630 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: That's the dream, right. 631 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: I worked with the Hughes brothers before, and I remember 632 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: them telling me that I guess they went to some 633 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: form of either film school. I mean, you know, they 634 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: did that movie Menic Society when they were like nineteen 635 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 2: years old, so this must have been when they were 636 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: super young, you know, maybe fifteen or something. But they 637 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: were in some film class. I don't know if it 638 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: was film school or a class at their school or something. 639 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: I remember them telling me that they almost failed, they 640 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: almost got an F because they they were so sure 641 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: of what their abilities were, the abilities that they were 642 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: born with, that that they were almost like, you know, 643 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: beyond what they were being taught in the class. And 644 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: so the teacher would assign certain assignments to everyone in class, 645 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: and they just wouldn't do it. And at a certain 646 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: point the teacher recognized them and their abilities and allowed 647 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: and and sort of altered the program to fit them 648 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: and their abilities, you know. And shortly after that they 649 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: went and they did medicine, society and and the rest 650 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: is history. But again going back to what we were 651 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: talking about about recognizing these sometimes people were just born 652 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: with certain abilities, you know, and you have to and 653 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: you have to master those abilities. You have to follow 654 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: that voice in the back of the eard had telling 655 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: you you were born with a with an ability to 656 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: do this. 657 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: Well, I feel incredibly inspired by that. Well, right, I 658 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: hope that everyone enjoyed this episode. I hope that you 659 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: found a little inspiration and what we're here to do. 660 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: And uh, I think the next episode should be about 661 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: a secret topic. 662 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: A secret topic. 663 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have an idea, I have any idea. I 664 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: guess you'll have to tune into the next episode and 665 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: into the next episode see how see how he goes. 666 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: I'm Freddi Rodriguez and I'm Wilmer Valderama Amigos Podcasts. 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