1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ. Buck back with you, Buck. How you doing, man, Man, 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. Crazy week, Crazy weekend football, never cease this 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: to amaze. We've seen some good games. We've seen coaches 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: and general managers fired. Uh, it's crazy time crazy. We're 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna get some of those jobs here in a little bit. Also, 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: we had a little project we gave to the research department. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: We're curious about so many guys on IR this year, 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: what positions have been hit the hardest and what can 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: we learn from that? So we've got those numbers for you. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Will lead to an interesting conversation we'll have. Uh we 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: can hit back on these rookie wide receivers who have 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: not disappointed, as well as touch on some college stuff. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: But uh, look, normally we don't spend too much time 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: on the Monday night came, but uh, I think this 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: one deserves a little bit of attention. Uh last night 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: from the Chargers in the Saints. I'll go to you first, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: just kind of what were your big picture takeaways here? 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Big paying with this start with a young quarterback, um Man, 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: the young quarterback is really good, DJ like Justin Herbert 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: is really really good. It's another lesson to be learned 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: and Scotting, and we've had a handful of these lessons 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to the quarterback position the last two 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: or three years. I think now more than ever, you 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: have to have an imagination. You have to be able 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: to think beyond once at scheme in terms of how 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: quarterback can play, and you have to really evaluate the 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: traits hard. And I tweeted this last night and talked 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: about traits over production, but I didn't really expand on 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the traits that. I mean. It's not only the physical stuff. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: It's not only like the armed talent, the athleticism, the 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: size and those things. It's really the i Q and 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: the mindset and the makeup. And I think as we 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: got around Justin Herbert, even though he was quiet, I 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: don't think there was any doubt that he was smart, 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: that he would pick it up UH and talking to 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: people around him, he was very competitive. The fact that 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: he had a multi sport background and was successful in 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: multiple sports, I think that played into it. And I 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: think when we look at these quarterbacks, I think it's 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: important to yes, assess what they do physically and have 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the production whatever, but really to do a deep dive 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: into the background of their makeup to really see what 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: makes them tick. Because the guys that are wired the 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: right way, they tend to find a way to be very, 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: very successful. And you would know this more than me, 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: And after you go, I want to know because on 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: the broadcast last night, they talked about Pep Hamilton's being 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: able to coach Justin Herbert hard and how he challenges 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: him in a in a very very hard, not necessarily 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: confrontational way, but he doesn't relent, And so I would 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: like to get your take on that when you've heard 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: or what you've observed from watching their interactions and those things. Yeah, 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: I think I look, Pep has done a really good job. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I think Shane Steken, from a play calling standpoint and 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: designing this offense has really featured what Herbert does well. 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: I think that the whole group together on that offensive 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: staff has done a wonderful job of getting this out 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert. Because Buck, I think we knew if 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: if we went to the pro day, I mean, if 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you want to just sit and watch Justin Herbert, you know, 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: throw throw balls on air. You're gonna be wowed by 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: how big and strong and how well the ball comes 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: out of his hand. The question that we were asking 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: during the draft process was okay, but does he have 67 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: some of that playmaker to him? Some of that creativity 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: that we've seen all these great quarterbacks that are playing 69 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: in the league right now. When you think about Mahomes 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, think about the leap that Josh Allen's made, 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: these younger quarterbacks that are successful, to Shaun Watson, they 72 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: all have a creative gene where they're able to make 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: things happen, get a free rusher, react, and and and 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: then go. I think with Justin Herbert, we did not 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: necessarily always see that at at Oregon, and I think 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: through his opportunity thus far this season through four games, 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I see it a handful of times every single game 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: where you're seeing the reactive skills that he possesses, which, 79 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to me, you're always trying to figure out, right, what 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: are the things that you can get better at and 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: what are the things that can improve. And I think 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: the reactive gene was something I'd always thought, either have 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: it or you don't have it. I can't see he's 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: he's an outlier then, because he has absolutely gotten better 85 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: in that area. Yeah. So look, I think the case 86 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: in point with Justin Herbert. It goes back to UH 87 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: tour the quarterbacks that are playing really well that were 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: ranked behind guys that we thought would played better, um, 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Um. I think Josh Allen first, 90 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: we didn't see the production. We never saw him complete 91 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: um a high completion rate. We didn't see him complete 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: a high efficiency rate of his passes, and so it's 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: hard to say that he's been going to become more 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: accurate at the next level. We saw him run around 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, but not as much as we've seen 96 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: him do it in the pros and make those plays. 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: But I think you brought up a key point. The 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: thing is in this will be something about the Washington 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: football team. What you said is the young quarterbacks that 100 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: are successful, their coaches are building the system around them. 101 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: They're not tied to a system. This is my system. 102 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: This is how we're going to play, and you have 103 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: to fit in. We're seeing Brian day ball in Buffalo. Oh, 104 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, this is what you're able to do really well. 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to find 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: as many plays and concepts that fit your skill set 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: to help you out. I'm not going to try and 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: make you play a certain way that works for you. 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: You talked about Justin Herbert and what the Charges have 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: been able to do for him. They looked at what 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: he does, what he does really well, and then they're 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: going to put him in the strength And I think 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you're like this quote. This comes from David Shaw's dad, 114 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Willie Shaw, and he used to say this when I 115 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: was with the Raiders. He says, as long as you 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: play to your strengths, you have no weaknesses. And so 117 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: what these coordinators are doing, they're asking the quarterback to 118 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: play through their strengths so they don't expose their weaknesses. 119 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: And it may sound silly, it may sound something like 120 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: something that you do with a flag football team, but 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: that's football, and that's what good coaches do. They put 122 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: their players in the best situation to win, and they 123 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of success when they do that. Here 124 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: here's an exciting thing. And we'll get to the Saints 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: here in a second, but the exciting thing for the Chargers. 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Is you look at the game against Tampa. Three touchdown 127 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: passes to undrafted players, right, that is a sign of 128 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: a great quarterback. Not a good quarterback, not a promising quarterback, 129 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: but a great quarterback you can elevate the play of 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: others around you. You look at this game and what 131 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: he was doing in this contest. Keenan Allen went out early, 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: caught a touchdown, and he didn't play. So you've got 133 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: no Keenan Allen. You've got no Austin Ekeler. You're starting center, 134 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: right guard and right tackle are not in the game, 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and you go out and throw four touchdowns and and 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: on that stage and that setting, Monday Night football, it 137 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: wasn't big for him at all. And so now I 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: start thinking, Okay, you know, Chargers still have time to 139 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: try and um, you know, turn this this ship around 140 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: here this season to have a good year. But when 141 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you forecast into the offseason, Tom Tolesco is going to 142 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: be shopping for sides. He's got the main dish. It 143 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: is a lot easier to go to the grocery store 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: when you already have your main dish and you can 145 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: go pick out some sides. Okay, DJ, Because you know 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: this roster really really well. We always talk about like 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: trucks and trailers, ability to pour the team when you 148 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have everything. So you just talked about offensively, 149 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't have Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen goes out or whatever. 150 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: But let's look at who they also didn't have, Derwin James. Yep, 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: you look at the amount of injuries, right, So what 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: we always talk about tranquil I mean Justin Jones and 153 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: five or six guys. So what we always talk about 154 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: is the franchise quarterback can give you hope that in 155 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: any situation he can put you, He can put you 156 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: right on the line to be able to win. Man 157 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert four games into this, we can already see, Wow, 158 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have all the right stuff around him, and 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: they are able to be in these games. And so 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: now if you think about offseason and I'm building the team, 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, how can we make it a lot 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: easier for him? What pieces can we add to help 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: his game go to the next level. They have Mike Williams, 164 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: they have Keenan Allen. Is there another receiver or slide receiver? 165 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: They need something inside to open it up. What can 166 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: we do up with the offensive line? Is there somebody 167 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: that we can add in the backfield to give him 168 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: a checkout? What whatever that is? Then defensively, oh well, 169 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: maybe we pour more resources into the defense to make 170 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: sure the defense is a top five defense because he's 171 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: already proven that he can carry whatever we have on offense. 172 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I just think he gives you, as a team builder, 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: so many options to figure out. Okay, how can we 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: build this team up to support him? And when the 175 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: a f C West where we're competing against the charges 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: in the Raiders. Yeah, but what he's doing with this 177 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: receiving corps with guys like Jalen Guight and going out 178 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: there and making place Iron Johnson going out there and 179 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: making plays. I'm sitting there going, okay, go get him 180 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: a tackle, Go get him somebody to protect him. Uh, 181 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: and maybe you get two tackles so they kind of 182 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: grow up with him. Outside of that, I mean, I'm 183 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: with you. I'm kind of saying, hey, this kid's gonna 184 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: get us a lead. Let's get some more dudes on 185 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: defense that can help us protect it. Yeah, because man, oh, 186 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray was running around making play, so they got 187 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: some some young guys. Yeah, so you can get some 188 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: young guys on that defense. I think you probably can 189 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: get a little younger at corner um with Chris Harris 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: and Casey Hey, what those guys are also get you 191 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: a young corner that you can growing for a big role. 192 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Getting maybe another pass rush is the one to Hopper, 193 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: hopefully an inside pass rusher that he give them something 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: to compliment Melvin and Joey Bosa and those guys. So 195 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: I just think there's so many things that even though 196 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: you're disappointed that you're losing these games, you're looking at 197 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: it because man, we saw the big thing and a 198 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: lot of people I didn't know if we got it 199 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: right when we picked Justin Herbert is six, But now, man, 200 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: the jokes on everybody else, Well, let's be honest. I 201 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: mean I had two over over Herbert and I had 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the chargers, and you're sitting there thinking, man, you're this 203 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: close to getting too and all the excitement that too 204 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: would have brought. And I was asked, I was asked 205 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: on social media last night, you know, why did you 206 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: guys or why did you like to over Herbert? And 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to me, it was that that playmaking. I thought he 208 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: was more accurate. I thought he worked quicker through progressions. 209 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: I thought, um, he just everything was a little bit 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: quicker and a little bit more sudden with him, a 211 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: little more urgent. And I thought Herbert was a little 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: more methodical with how he played the game. So far, 213 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: that has not been the case. I mean, Herbert has 214 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: been outstanding, and it almost in some weird way, his 215 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: performance is putting a little bit of added pressure onto 216 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: it when he actually does get on the field for Miami. Yeah, 217 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: with Miami, and I think maybe it's the rare instance 218 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: where all three teams got it right. Like, maybe that's 219 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: the situation because we haven't seen to play. Joe Burrow 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: certainly looks like he's made of the right stuff. He 221 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: does a great job, justin Herbert's done a good job. 222 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: We're just waiting on to it. But it could be 223 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a rare instance where all of the all the teams 224 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: got it right. I guess it would be similar to 225 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger Eli Manning's draft, like where they all 226 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: had a level of success that you couldn't argue that, oh, 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: they got it wrong. Sometimes sometimes you get lucky like that. 228 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: There you go alright, Saints flipping it over to the 229 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Saints while it wasn't pretty and their defense, uh has 230 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: made your holes and concerns me if they're going to 231 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: try and do anything big this year. Um, I thought 232 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: without Michael Thomas being down in the hole, they were 233 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: in down seventeen points to come back and when I 234 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: don't want to say it's a season saver, but darn 235 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: there pretty close to that. Yeah, it is. But I 236 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: think it would be disingenuous to not acknowledge that Drew 237 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Brees has been a fantastic player, one of the best 238 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: to ever play the position, but he is a shell 239 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: of himself in terms of what he is able to do. 240 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: He can muster it up for one last chance, one 241 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: big throw a game, but really he is a checkdown Charlie, 242 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: like a bunch of different checkdowns and crossing rows. Everything 243 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: is with the ten yard box and it puts so 244 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: much pressure in my mind on Sean Payton. He cannot 245 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: have an off game at all, Like his playsheet has 246 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: to be dialed up to a team because he doesn't 247 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: have the ability to have a quarterback. He doesn't have 248 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: the luxury of having a quarterback that can make him 249 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: right with either improvising or extending plays or making these 250 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: long lobshots down the field. And as they continue to 251 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: get down the road, and as Drew Brees continues to 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: put this film up, man, that the field is going 253 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: to get tighter and tighter and smaller and smaller. Because 254 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I felt like last night they play in the ten 255 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: yard box, you know it was what was it was 256 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: a ten yard fight the video game we used to play, Guess, 257 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Like that's what That's what I feel like this things 258 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: are doing it. Even when Michael Thomas comes back like 259 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: he's great, he's a bully on the perimeter, but he's 260 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: not a stretched to fuel guy. And even if he was, 261 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: would Drew Brees take it down the field. It just 262 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: puts the midst amount of pressure on the play caller 263 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: to really be on his game. And I just don't know, 264 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if Champagne can do that 265 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: over a sixteen game season. Yeah, I mean, look the 266 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: teams that have the personnel to lock up and man 267 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: and just say we're gonna play it and we're just 268 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: gonna eliminate that. You know, because even on even on 269 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: some of the rub routes and mesh routes that they 270 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: want to run. That takes a little bit of time 271 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: for those guys to get across the formation to get 272 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: that accomplished. Drew Drew. It has to be on time. 273 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: If Drew's on time, if he's one, two, three, shoot. 274 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: They scored a touchdowns. It was a catch rock and 275 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: throw one step slant to Emmanuel Sanders, just squeezing in 276 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: right inside the linebacker there. But I mean all the 277 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: all their six sess through the passing game happens immediately. 278 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: The longer they hold the ball, the worst they get. 279 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: So how do you get them to hold the ball? 280 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: You play more man, And I just think teams are 281 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna be equipped to do that. They're gonna have a 282 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: tough time. Man. It is uh um, like he said, 283 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: it's like watching uh, you know, hot potato inside a 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: inside a ten by ten room. You know, it's it's 285 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's tight. It's so tight, and it's so hard. 286 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: And I think watching him walk off the field they 287 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: had the camera on him, I think it's a sense 288 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: of relief that he was able to win because I 289 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: think he knows the questions and I think, oh well, 290 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I think most great ones know when they're losing their stuff. 291 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: And I think, um, back to back prime time games, 292 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: we saw like Drew Brees and we also saw Tom Brady. 293 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: They don't have the fastball, but DJ, like you weren't 294 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be a franchise. Course back, Brady's got a 295 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: lot more juice on the ball than Breeze, does it. Yeah, 296 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, yeah, my guy, Drew have a 297 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: tough time breaking a pane of glass right now, Like 298 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a very soft nerf ball that's coming out, 299 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not it's not coming out accurately, 300 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: because that was always this thing. His thing was never 301 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: that he had to beg his arm, but he always 302 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: could put it and the strikes on it. We're seeing 303 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: far more mrs like he's he's missing the corners and 304 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: and I would have been frustrated if I was your 305 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: reason that game with shuttling in Taysom Hill in and 306 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: out of that game and really only worked one time. 307 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean they got the touchdown run, it didn't work otherwise. 308 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: But that to me speaks to Sean Payton's kind of 309 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: acknowledgement that hey, this is not that there's not gonna 310 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: be enough offense for us to win in big games 311 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: going forward. Well, here's the thing. The thing that's annoying 312 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: to me about the Taysom Hill conversation. Taysom Hill cannot pass. 313 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: When Taysom Hill comes in and Taysom Hill like line 314 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: up for a single wing play, Uh, it's gonna be 315 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback run. Like even when he rolled up he 316 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: had no I know. And and if you see that 317 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: play on the touchdown run, Kenneth Murray ran with the 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: tight end and I'm sitting here going like no, no, no, 319 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: just make him throw like that like he has no 320 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: does fire to throw it? And so um, we'll see. 321 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how how long they can get away 322 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: with this patchwork offense, especially with their defense not playing 323 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: at a high level, because I feel like with Dennis Allen, 324 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: those guys, man, I feel like they just kind of 325 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: spind the wheel picking defenses. They bring pressure. It's really random. 326 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: They gave us at one. They gave Herbert a lay 327 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: up at the end of the game, like that should 328 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: have been the game when the drive, like you go 329 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: one on one, Marshall let him. I understand, Marshall Attimore 330 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: is your premier corner, but man, Mike Williams. This is 331 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: what he does. He takes it off the rim over 332 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And it appeared, I don't know, 333 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: if you watched the replay, it appeared they were trying 334 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to do some kind of complicated bracket where they're gonna 335 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: bait him, and they had they had twenty six kind 336 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: of hanging in the box and trying to get over top, 337 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: but he couldn't. Regardless, don't give Justin Herbert the opportunity 338 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: to get to the line and say, oh, I got 339 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: one on one with my guy and I'm gonna hang 340 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: it up there. It just didn't make sense. And I 341 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: just don't know if they played good enough defense to 342 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: really be one of the top teams in the NFC. 343 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: But I don't really know who is the top team 344 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC, Like who is the team because every 345 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: team that we could say has a fatal flaw. I 346 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: know we were talking about because the Bible to probably 347 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: put something in there yet it is, But are we 348 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: convinced that the Packers play good enough defense to go 349 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: like that's the thing. Everybody has a fatal flaw in 350 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: the NFC, And I just we'll see how it plays out. 351 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Great offenses I don't know who the dominant defense. The 352 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: team that has the dominant defense of the top teams, 353 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: that would be the one that eventually emerges and goes forward. 354 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge the bill. Um, this is gonna be 355 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: an exercise and uh post production work here, because I'm 356 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: gonna see if the Bill can hunt down the call, 357 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: uh that I had in that game before the play 358 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: that you just mentioned, Buck, because we share a brain 359 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: because right before the snap, I said, if I'm justin Herbert, 360 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I've got Mike Williams and Marshawn Lattimore one on one, 361 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my shot down the field and let 362 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: him climb the ladder and make a play literally right 363 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: down the field climb ladder making And I'm sitting here, Buck, 364 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going into the call Hall of Fame. 365 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Right everyone's banks the field goal off the upright. I'm like, Yeah, 366 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: nobody ever hear that call, but except for right now, 367 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: because Nobile is gonna play it. If he's a good producer, 368 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: he's gonna play that audio right now. Yet, Mike Williams 369 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: and Marshawn Lattimore down here at the bottom, that's a 370 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: one on one matchup, good on good. They played against 371 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: each other in college. I wouldn't mind giving Big Mike 372 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: Williams to chance down the field. Here, see, we can 373 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: go climb the ladder. Herbert shotgun passed looking for Mike Williams. 374 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: Throwing from Mike Williams left sideline up, caught Mike Williams 375 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: with the catch in Bob's left sideline to the thirty 376 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: one eight seconds left and the Chargers call their third 377 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: and final time out. What a grab by Mike Williams. 378 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: What a throw by justin Herbert left sideline one on one. 379 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: Let Mike Williams climb the ladder. He's done it time 380 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: and time again. Just give him a chance. There's three 381 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: defenders there. It does not matter because Mike Williams elevator 382 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: goes up to a higher floor. All right, So you 383 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: may or may not have heard that call by now. 384 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know because as we're doing this, I don't 385 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: know if the bill is able to get it done. Um, 386 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: but you have to let us know on social media 387 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: if he did his homework. All right, Black, what else 388 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: you wanna talk about her? You want to get to 389 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: the falcons? What's going on these guys? Yeah? Let's talk 390 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: about that. UM. I think it's a very unique situation. 391 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit. UM we're talking about 392 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: talking about on the show, The Digital Show yesterday about 393 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: that job and what is a better job between the 394 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Houston Texas job in the Atlanta Falcons job. I think 395 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcon's job is very interesting. UM. Obviously, Dan 396 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Quinn and Thomas Dimitrov did a really good job there. 397 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: They got the Falcons to the Super Bowl. Had the Falcons, 398 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean if they take a field goal, like probably 399 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: feel go away from being world champions and it all 400 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: unraveled after that moment. They were able to go to 401 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs the next year, but after that, like, they've 402 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: been a middling team. And when you look at this 403 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: team and you look at this franchise and you have 404 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: thirty five of your old quarterback. You have a receiver 405 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is two years old, but he has been 406 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: beset by a ton of injuries despite being still the 407 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: premier wide receiver in the game. You have a number 408 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: of number one picks that are playing on that offense. 409 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're excited about most of 410 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: those guys. And then defensively. You have a team that 411 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: is built to play in the Seattle Seahawks scheme, but 412 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: is that going to be the scheme of choice with 413 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: the new guy that comes in. And so when you 414 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: look at this situation, I think it's man, I think 415 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: it's a complete tear down. I think you have to 416 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: just have an auction, sell off the parts, quarterback included, 417 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: and see if you can get a quarterback in the 418 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: draft and rebuild it and maybe do a quick turnaround 419 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: in a year or two. Well, here's what you gotta do. 420 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: You've got to go to uh ironically home depot. Uh 421 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: there with with Arthur Blank, go to home depot, get 422 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: yourself a yard sale sign. It's gonna say yard sale. 423 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna stake that little sign on the ground. Everything 424 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: goes out there, everything, everything must go. This is a 425 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: total gut job rebuild. In my opinions, start over. Um. 426 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: That's the difference between Houston and this one. To me, 427 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: I just think, um, they've gotten a little bit old 428 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: um and just need a fresh start. And a lot 429 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: of times when you have a new new general manager, 430 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: new head coach leads to new quarterback. New quarterback leads 431 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: to a new beginning. Um, whatever askt you can find 432 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: to me, I think I'm trying to gut this thing 433 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: and start from scratch. Yeah, I think that's going to 434 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: be the planning going forward. Uh, Arthur Blank, I don't 435 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: know if you're just comments. He talked about that with 436 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. He didn't give me a ringing endorsement that 437 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: he would be the quarterback going forward. He said, part 438 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: of that is on the player, the other part his 439 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: own new management, new coach who comes in, if that 440 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: he wants to be that guy. I haven't studied Matt 441 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Ryan extensively, you know, and say, but the whispers are 442 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: out there that he's not playing well, that he's lost 443 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of his stuff, and he looks like 444 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: an aging or an old quarterback. And so we'll see, 445 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: we'll see if he can turn it around. But I 446 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: do believe Matt Ryan is a little bit of the 447 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: dinosaur at that position. Most of the quarterbacks that are 448 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: playing have the ability to move around. We talked about 449 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: Josh Allen justin Herbert like, you have to have a 450 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: level of athleticism because it expands the playbook and also 451 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: it makes up for what you can't acquire upfront. In 452 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line. And if your quarterback is not able 453 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: to move around, he has to be such an efficient passer. 454 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: It just makes it really hard to find those guys. 455 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you a notebook idea. Look all right, good 456 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: for one a month. I give you one notebook idea 457 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: a month. So look at the transformation of teams that 458 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: have gone from stationary passers to a more dynamic pastor. 459 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: And look at some of the recent examples. From Joe 460 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: Flacco to Lamar Jackson. I mean, that's about as drastic 461 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: as it gets. How about from Philip Rivers to Justin Herbert, 462 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: what that looks like. Think about Deshaun Watson. I guess 463 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: you'd probably say, I don't mean shop is going back 464 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: probably a little bit further. But whoever Osweiler I think 465 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: was the quarterback before before. So you've seen these offenses 466 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: really kind of explode and change in their nature. By 467 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: getting somebody that can create it, just breathe life into 468 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: your offense. Because offensive line play is not getting any better. 469 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: The college game is not giving us a ton of them. 470 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: We had a great tackle class this last year, but 471 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: you can't that doesn't happen very often. So you've got 472 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: to have quarterbacks that can get out of some trouble 473 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: on their own. And I think you've seen these athletic 474 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have. You can be down two or three starters 475 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: in your offensive line, still play and still compete. Last 476 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: year with the Charges, with their offensive line was decimated 477 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: and they couldn't do anything. I mean, God bless Philip Rivers, 478 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: but there's nothing he could do. I mean, if you 479 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: can't get away from it, you can't get away from it, 480 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: which led to him taking sacks or him forcing balls 481 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: into traffic because he's gonna be in the same spot 482 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: and the ball has got to come out. And when 483 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you have guys that can get off that spot make plays, 484 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I think you can bail out your your coordinator, you 485 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: can bail out your offensive line. And I think it's 486 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: been an interesting trend. And I think to me, Atlanta 487 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: is kind of that next that's where they need to go, 488 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, And I think so, And I think that's 489 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: the only way to go because when you go and 490 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: you look at the college game each and every week, 491 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: all those guys can move around and make plays. Even 492 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: the either we um everyone has talked about Trevor Lawrence, 493 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is athletic. You can get on the edge, 494 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: you can run around, you can make plays. He has 495 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: launch talents in the justin Fieldstralia. So, um, you have 496 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: to have that club and you're back now if you're 497 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, because it's just too hard to play 498 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: with the statue behind an offensive line, especially with the 499 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: lack of development or the lack of exposure to traditional 500 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: pass blocking schemes in the lower ranks high school and college, 501 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: you just don't get those guys. And with the new 502 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: rules in terms of practice time in the pros, it's 503 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: just very, very hard to develop offensive linement at this time. Yeah, um, no, 504 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's interesting. It'll interest to see what those 505 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: teams do going forward. I want to hit on this. Um. 506 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: We talked about it at the top. All these injuries 507 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: this year, I was curious what positions get hit the hardest. 508 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: So let me just give you the two on offense 509 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and the two on defense, and what can we learn 510 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: from that in terms of roster building team building. So 511 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the number of players, the different players 512 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: that have been put on i R since Week one. 513 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: On offense, the two that have been hit the hardest 514 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers with twelve of running backs with eleven, So 515 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers and running backs. A lot of attrition there 516 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Linebackers and dbs. 517 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: Now think about the there's more numbers there because you 518 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: have a number of linebackers and number of dbs. But 519 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: still seventeen linebackers and twenty six dbs. So what can 520 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: you learn from those numbers? Well, it looks like the 521 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: training that we see on social media um might not 522 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: be the best training to get you ready to try. 523 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a I think that's a 524 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: that's a strong indictment because a lot of the stuff 525 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: that we're seeing, like the one thing that you worried 526 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: about when you had the pandemic and you had the end, 527 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: you didn't have the ability to get everyone around the building. 528 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: You wondered how they were prepared. And because those positions 529 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: that we were talking about, those are kind of like 530 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: the cottage industry positions in terms of training, and so 531 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of guys were left to their own devices, 532 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: and you just wondered, think about prepare, think about this. 533 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: So linebacker would be the one exception, although it's still important. 534 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: These are running positions, not hitting positions. These are running positions. Now, 535 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: some of these injuries have taken place with some hits 536 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and running backs obviously, but you're talking about a lot 537 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: of soft tissue injuries in these position groups, and that's 538 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: what's put a lot of these guys down. A lot 539 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of hamstrings, Yeah, a lot of hamstrings, a lot of 540 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the things that have really come from the preparation. 541 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: I would say this, and I do wonder when it 542 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: comes to the training. Going all the way back um, 543 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers strength and conditioning coach now was my 544 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: strength conditioning coach back and open. His name is Gary Gmont, 545 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and Gimont used to always talk about, like to play football, 546 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: you need to train on the grass. You need to 547 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: train in your cleats. You can't train on the track. 548 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: You need to do it because when you get on 549 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: the grass with the astro turf, with the cleats digging in, 550 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: your muscles fired differently. And if you've been doing it 551 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: on a smooth flash service the entire time, running miles 552 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: and doing all that other stuff, when you get to 553 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the grass, you're more susceptible to pool. And so I 554 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: just wonder when it comes to the training and the 555 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: ramp up period. It just simply wasn't enough time to 556 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: get people's bodies acclimated to being able to play football. 557 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: And so, um, the lesson to be learned is the 558 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: same lesson that we learned in twenty eleven when they 559 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: had to lockout, because I think it was very very 560 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: similar with hamstrings and achilles and those things. Um, somebody 561 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: has to create a program to help players acclimate in 562 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: a very short time to the football movement part of 563 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: playing the game. And I don't know who does that. 564 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know who has that magic one. But someone 565 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: has to come up with a protocol and a paradigm 566 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: that can help players transition from a I've done training 567 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: kind of, but now I gotta get ready to play football. 568 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: And I think that is the challenge. All right, that's 569 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: a great point. Um. These rookie receivers tweeted this out 570 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the other day. You know, I we both made a 571 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: big about this class going through the spring before the 572 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: draft last year, and that's a lot of hype. Yes, 573 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: it was the best one I've seen since O three. 574 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: They um, twenty two guys with top three round grades 575 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, and they've all I mean, 576 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: I outside of a couple of injuries, Buck, every single 577 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: one of these guys making plays. These guys are ready 578 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: made and we saw a bunch of guys that have 579 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: come out. UM. I mean, we're just ready, plug and 580 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: play players that can get it done. And it's not 581 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: just the first round guys, the guys and all rounds 582 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: that are being able to come out. And I think 583 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: a lot of it is due to they catch the 584 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: ball more than ever UM in high school and college. Uh, 585 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: they run routes more than ever with UM not only 586 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: the games, but then the off season that never stopped 587 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: seven on seven. They're always training, they're always kind of work, 588 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: and I think they're just better prepared to step on 589 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: the field and be able to go. And with offensive 590 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: coordinators beginning to be more adaptable and flexible with what 591 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: they're doing to help the young quarterback, they're also assisting 592 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: the young receiver. Before, when you had these complex route 593 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: concepts and these routes that you were asking guys to 594 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: run that they had never run before, it just made 595 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: it very difficult for them to get on the field. 596 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: When now as you're seeing more of the influence of 597 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: the college game, comes in come into it. You're seeing 598 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: guys run more slants, hitches at various levels, go routes, 599 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: post deep overs when we see those routes all the 600 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: time on Saturdays, and so there's not as big of 601 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: a transition, whereas when you used to see these West 602 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Coast offenses that had very intricate routes, found timing and 603 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: those things. I think it was harder for a young 604 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: guy to get on the field and understand where he 605 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: needed to be when he needed to be there based 606 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: on the route. I think it's a little more I'll 607 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: say freestyle. Um in a loose way. Guys are just 608 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: a get open and they find a way to get 609 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: it open, get the ball to him and make appen. 610 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what's gonna happen with this next 611 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: class because I think it's gonna be another really good group. 612 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Might not be quite as deep as last year. Um, 613 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: we'll get a feel for it once all these other 614 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: conferences get up and running. But um is this is 615 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: this gonna be a situation where because so many people 616 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: went into the market last year and dedicated first, second, 617 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: third round picks to receivers, are those teams then gonna 618 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: be out, which is gonna lead to maybe even more 619 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: value in this upcoming draft. When you start getting into 620 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: those third, fourth, fifth rounds, we're gonna see a lot 621 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: of good players because some people are not saying they're 622 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: full at the position, but having just invested some high resources, 623 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how many how many those teams are 624 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna be right back in that same market. Yeah, I 625 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: wanted that because I do wonder, um, and we've talked 626 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: about this UM a little bit, but not as heavy 627 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: about the running back position. Right, So in the running 628 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: back position, UM, there's the buzz of never invest heavily 629 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: in running back because you can just find guys. I 630 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: do wonder if why our receivers will take on some 631 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: of that water, because you're gonna reach a point where, man, 632 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: do I really want to pay leven, twelve thirty million 633 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: dollars to uh? I mean a veteran receiver when I 634 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: can go into draft and get one. And we've seen 635 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: countless examples of people playing the other thing. I will say, um, 636 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: are we going to get to the point because we 637 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: we've heard the conversation about the first round running back. 638 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I think you almost can make the case with the 639 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: first round receiver to the sweet spot into wide receiver 640 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: lane is second and third round. We've seen a lot 641 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: of guys have success. What a kid from Pittsburgh, clayfool Like. 642 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be more examples of if you 643 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: know what you're looking at, if you have uh a 644 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: staff or a wide receiver coach that has a track 645 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: record of being able to develop them, why spend the 646 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: first round pick when you've seen people get value in 647 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: the second and third round and have success. Yep, that's 648 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, it's a there's a really 649 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: really good group. Gabriel Davis has done a nice job 650 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: of Viscus Chenault outside the first round has been has 651 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: been money. Like, let's talk about the Biscus because I 652 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: get a chance to watch him every week. And here's 653 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: the thing, and here's the thing about like the draft process, 654 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: and I wonder and I try to stick to this 655 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to do. A lot of times we 656 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: kind of focused so hard on the players last year 657 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: that it really impacts that great So La Viscus Chanal 658 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a great final season. Injuries and stuff kind 659 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: of prevented him, but heading into the or he was 660 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: one of the top guys coming into the season to 661 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: top fifteen, and so did his skills necessarily diminish or 662 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: did he just have an off year. I think as 663 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: evaluators we need to challenge ourselves to look at the 664 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: entire body of work and if someone's final season is 665 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: drastically different than their previous season, what are the reasons 666 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: for that? Injuries, uh, coaching change, scheme change, and try 667 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: to understand what that is. And I won't say, like 668 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: a give them the benefit of the doubt, but I 669 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: do think we're seeing enough examples of these guys who 670 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: have had great freshman and sophomore years and then it 671 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: falls off maybe their junior year or great sophomore junior, 672 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: it falls off their senior year. You might want to 673 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: take the entire picture and try and put that together 674 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: when you're when you're compiling the grade as opposed to 675 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: really really sticking hard on that final season, because I 676 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: think sometimes we have a tendency to male players on 677 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: their final year and we didn't come back a year 678 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: later like, man, this guy's playing really well. He's the 679 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: second round pick and be like, yeah, but he had 680 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: done that for most of his career. That's a great point, 681 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of examples. I mean, I 682 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: think even Josh Allen's his year before he came out 683 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: was better. He's still up going to the top ten, 684 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: but I mean he was talked about as the you know, 685 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: first overall pick coming into that last year. So again, 686 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: if you see it, if you see that they can 687 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: do it, you know they can do it, then that 688 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: can be your that can be your expectation they're gonna 689 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: be able to do it again, particularly when work ethic, intelligence, toughness, 690 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: all those boxes are checked, then it makes it a 691 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: lot easier to be able to forgive, you know, whatever 692 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: might have you've seen over the last year. Yeah, I 693 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: think I think it's it's the entire resume. It's not 694 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: just the final season. I think it's a your entire 695 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: body of work. Here's what you bring to the table 696 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: with your resume. Let's look at that and evaluate that. 697 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: And we would never be able to get all the 698 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: guys right in terms of getting them in the right 699 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: round and what they could be and should be or whatever. 700 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: But I think you have a better chance of hitting 701 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: on the right player, regardless of around, if you really 702 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: evaluate the entire from the time he stepped on campus 703 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: to the time he departs campus. This is what the 704 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: player has done in the accomplishing Here's how I think 705 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: you played the next level. 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We 713 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: uh We've challenged everybody buck to leave us the name 714 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: of the best high school player that they've seen on 715 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts on the review section. So I want to 716 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: give me some of those new names. We've got brock 717 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: Osweidler think it was he was from Idaho. I think yes, 718 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: he was. Yes, basketball player too, right, great Gonzaga offered 719 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: by Gonzaga. You've got Wes Welker, who we've talked to 720 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: UH coach Leach about. Cordell Patterson not a surprise, Micah 721 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: Parsons and Dandre Swift and Marcus Gilchrist. Interesting names there 722 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Gilchrist. How about yeah. I mean a lot of 723 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: great players, man, a lot of great high school players 724 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: that have been out there, and I love hearing these stories, 725 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: and I love following up by going and checking out 726 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: their highlights and seeing some of those things. Because I 727 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: will tell you, DJ, if if you ever get you, 728 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: if anyone wants to see like what I think is 729 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: one of the best highlight tapes, please pop in Duke 730 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Johnson's Nor Orleans, Florida high school tape they won a 731 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: state championship. Duke Johnson was a one man show. I 732 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: have never seen a guy like put a team on 733 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: his back unbelievable highlight tapes. So if you get a 734 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: chance to look at Duke Johnson stuff like he was 735 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: an unbelievable high school player. All right, I'll challenge I'll 736 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: challenge the I'll challenge the listeners this way, go watch. 737 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: If you can find it, go find and watch the 738 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson highlights and then and the Apple podcast review. 739 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: Write your report on Duke Johnson. That's your homework assignment. 740 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: If you're listening right now, you can find you should 741 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: be able to find it on huddles. You can find uh, 742 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson College to find those and leave with some reports. 743 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: That's your homework. Yeah, yeah, yeah, New Orleans. I think 744 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: it's New Orland High School in Florida's unbelieved. Okay, okay, yeah, 745 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: let us know. Um alright, anything you want to add 746 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: before we jump out of here? Buck oh man. That 747 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: was a good, good show, always good, always good. Lots 748 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: of fun, fun times. Appreciate you guys, uh staying with 749 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: us here. Thanks to the Bill for doing a wonderful 750 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: job putting this together each and every time we do 751 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: the pod uh and we will catch you next time 752 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: right here. Thanks for listening. To Move the Sticks presented 753 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: by Zaxby's