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Speaker 3: Oh right, it is the Draft Show, brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Miller lte As. The twenty twenty four NFL Draft

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Speaker 3: is in the books. Zach will Chuck alongside Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Brian Pradess. Oh my goodness, we had our three day extravaganza.

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Speaker 2: It was a blatch. Thank you guys for.

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Speaker 3: All your hard work and everybody who gets to experience

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Speaker 3: that with us.

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Speaker 2: We love doing what we do.

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Speaker 3: But now we've had a couple of days to kind

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Speaker 3: of let that marinade. We reflect back on what the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys did. But the job be done. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is an organization that is really really good at finding

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Speaker 3: undrafted rookie free agents, and we can go through some

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Speaker 3: of that class. But I mean, first off, I know

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Speaker 3: people have been asking us left and right kind of

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Speaker 3: some of our favorite picks. Was there a pick that

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Speaker 3: you really really loved that the Cowboys made you guys

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Speaker 3: know which one I loved, which of course was Cooper Bebe.

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Speaker 3: But for you two, I don't know if you would agree.

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Speaker 3: If there's some other name that stood out to you

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Speaker 4: Class, yeah, I think my answer would be BB. But

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Speaker 4: I'll look away for the sake of having a different opinion.

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Speaker 4: I'll go with Marshawn Neeland there in the second round.

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Speaker 4: I think there's I wrote about it after night too.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a very interesting pick given where the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys were in that specific spot. You know, a needing

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Speaker 4: to address needs at linebacker still at that point, center,

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Speaker 4: running back, defensive tackle. But they say true to their

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Speaker 4: board and went with a really athletic defensive end that

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Speaker 4: they feel I can impact the run game immediately that

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Speaker 4: has some pass rush upside. It's very on brand for

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Speaker 4: what Will McLay and that scouting department does, as well

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Speaker 4: as Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy's very big on finding a

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Speaker 4: guy that can be athletic and come in and serve

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Speaker 4: two different roles. I think that's kind of what you

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Speaker 4: see in Marshawn Neland I think he's a guy that

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Speaker 4: could potentially slide inside and he's a guy that can

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Speaker 4: also play on the edge. But you see the athleticism

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Speaker 4: and that's what really stood out in the evaluation for

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Speaker 4: everybody in the scouting department. Will McLay included, I think

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Speaker 4: that was a really important pick and I think you'll

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Speaker 4: look back on that one if it works or if

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Speaker 4: it doesn't work, you'll look back on that one as

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Speaker 4: a as a key spot in this twenty twenty four draft,

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Speaker 4: just because there was so many other positions they could

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Speaker 4: have addressed at that point. I mean, only one running

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Speaker 4: back was off the board, only one linebacker was off

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Speaker 4: the board. They could have had their pick of the

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Speaker 4: litter at that position, but instead they went ahead and

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Speaker 4: enrolled with Marshaw Neeland, who they felt was slipping at

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Speaker 4: that point. So a fascinating pick that I feel like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kaitlyn Carson, to me is the one that I

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Speaker 2: really really liked. If you start to kind of work

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Speaker 2: through the draft, and you know there was a it

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Speaker 2: was we we went the whole draft season trying to

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Speaker 2: sort cornerbacks. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like this kid

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Speaker 2: of the because the talent is there, the way he plays,

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Speaker 2: how competitive he is. His ability to carry routes inside

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite things about corners. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: could be slow and everything, I don't care, but if

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Speaker 2: you could show me you could carry routes inside and

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Speaker 2: make plays on the ball, I'm gonna like you as

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Speaker 2: a player. And this kid can we talk about the

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Speaker 2: things the traits that Mike Zimmer would like, the length,

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Speaker 2: the size, the ability to play the football. And this

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Speaker 2: of felt like that. What I really appreciated about the

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Speaker 2: when they passed on all those and BB's a great pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Bibe, the key to this thing is going

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Speaker 2: at seventy three with that pick? They probably got him

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Speaker 2: The thing that I was kind of thinking, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they said, no, we'll take probably the best player on

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Speaker 2: great job of working with these corners, and this kid's

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Speaker 2: I really do like how they just didn't. They didn't,

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Speaker 2: they took their best player and and it was Carson,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna work out fine for them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I loved the Carson pick. I think they

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Speaker 3: did a lot. And you mentioned stay true to your board.

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Speaker 3: I think that was reflective. Obviously with the trade that

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Speaker 3: with Cooper Beebe. But this undrafted class pretty interesting. Some

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Speaker 3: big names to discuss. You know, we kind of broke down,

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Pete from Missouri. Now, Pete's a guy that transferred

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Speaker 3: want some juice. Pete's gonna bring you some juice. What

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Speaker 3: I liked about watching Pete was there's not a whole

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Speaker 3: so there's not a lot of tread on the tiers

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Speaker 3: Now they're going to go running back by committee. We

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Speaker 3: now know that Ezekiel Elliott's here. You've got him, You've

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Speaker 3: I do think when you look at over all this

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Speaker 3: on the other side. But one thing I think that

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Speaker 3: of depth and competition, probably kicking inside to guard I

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Speaker 3: would assume at the next level. But they did a

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Speaker 3: great job of adding some toughness, some nasty. When you

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Speaker 3: and get some knock back.

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Speaker 2: They did that.

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Speaker 3: I think just by those additions, naturally they should be

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Speaker 2: But Nathaniel Pete's got a little something here. I'm excited

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Speaker 3: Him play when we get to mini camps and then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking to Jake ferguson night at the

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Speaker 4: Reliant Home Run Derby about the run game and specifically

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Speaker 4: that's something he's trying to work on more so this year.

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Speaker 4: I think he took a big stride last year and

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Speaker 4: now this year being able to maybe do some combo

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Speaker 4: a big emphasis and I think that's probably a big

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Speaker 4: Brevin span Ford, No, okay.

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Speaker 2: Got him. I loved Revin span Ford. Man. I was

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Speaker 2: surprised that he did not get drafted. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean you look at his size, his ability to block,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy's got a massive wing span. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I went to Mobile for the Senior Bowl, he

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Speaker 4: next Thursday to sign, so you know, these guys can

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Speaker 4: still flip between now and then. But Brevin span Ford

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Speaker 4: probably gonna end up with the most guaranteed money in

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Speaker 4: this in this undrafted free agent class, just because of

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Speaker 4: do some good things. But also at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 4: what I was able to pick up off span Ford

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Speaker 4: was the red zone ability, the possession ability. I think

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Speaker 4: little bit, but I think this is a fun weapon

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Speaker 4: that they found here in the undrafted pool. And man

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Speaker 4: if he ends up panning out that that tight end room,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we're looking about a year ago

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Speaker 4: it was was getting scary and now it's getting crowded.

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Speaker 5: So it's a fascinating one. I will say.

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna let Brian talk on this guy a

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Speaker 4: little bit more. My favorite Udi and this classes of

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Speaker 4: Moni Johnson on a Nevada Well talk about him. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's probably one of the

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Speaker 4: better run defending safeties that you saw in the group

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Speaker 4: of five ranks last year. Didn't really get the opportunity

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Speaker 5: And to the playing speed point, he's probably a guy

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Speaker 2: He's filled me in on him. I mean, went to

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Speaker 2: The way that he plays. He chases the ball, the

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Speaker 5: Eighty four inch wingspin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing, my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I love that well there. This is something they take

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Speaker 2: that's something they've done a really good job of convincing players,

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Speaker 2: You know, they've convinced a lot of these agents and

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Speaker 2: But they do a great job. Chris Hall and Todd

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Speaker 2: I don't know about this guy. If they put that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna do everything in their power to try and

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Speaker 3: Did you have any fun stories of your days like

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton. Sean Payton and the Tony Romos story is incredible.

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Speaker 2: he kept telling Tony, hey, we got it. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Man, when you're old. When you're old, you get involved

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Speaker 4: part of that is also just having a little bit

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Speaker 4: really just kind of coming down Not to say that

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Speaker 4: it feels like the Cowboys have hit on it more

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Speaker 2: I started working here in nineteen ninety nine and the

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Speaker 2: one thing that I really did. Our draft board, my

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Speaker 2: first draft. I remember it just being massive. You know.

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Speaker 2: I was used to a draft board of one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty players and just drafted off that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: and because I didn't the clutter, I just we were

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Speaker 2: all we just didn't like the clutter of it all.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Dallas switch to Larry Layswell was credit said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we could go to a smaller board. And through the

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Speaker 2: years it's developed. Will mcclay's got his board the way

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Speaker 2: he likes it. But yeah, I think I think there's

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Speaker 2: a great history here, this this organization, and I know

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Speaker 2: The college free agent part of it was very important.

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Speaker 2: It was you know, you could get on and for

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Speaker 2: not caring about pro free agency, but they care about

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Speaker 2: that the undrafted one. They really really that is something

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Speaker 2: that is super important to them because again it's the

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Speaker 2: it's the it's cheaper talent, but the chance to hit

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Speaker 2: on one of those guys, Like you say, you hit

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Speaker 2: on a TJ. Bass, you potentially got a you know,

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Speaker 3: Again like that, you know, if you, if you, when

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Speaker 3: We're already getting our boards ready to go for twenty

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Speaker 2: Can I start this off for let's do Let's go

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Speaker 2: in front of you, and I'm sorry I should have

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Speaker 2: prepped you guys in this when we were talking, who's

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Speaker 2: your highest rated player you had left on your board? Oh? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: and you're stacked? Did mine was? Mine? Was Leonard Taylor

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Speaker 2: the Miami Oh.

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Speaker 3: I think mine was too, because I had him as

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Speaker 3: a as the hundredth best best player. I had him

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Speaker 3: won the best the hundredth best player for me.

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Speaker 2: I think Leonard Taylor was my guy. And at one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen of my stack of the two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twelve guys that I had him, and Nelson Caesar

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Speaker 2: from Houston was another one. And then Gabriel Murphy. I

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Speaker 2: am shocked. Can't believe d't I'm shocked that Gabriel Murphy

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Speaker 2: didn't get drafted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I am too.

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Speaker 2: There must be I was. I got Burglar on the

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Speaker 2: phone and I go, all right, expert, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: we scout all these guys, and you know, some of

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Speaker 2: them don't even get drafted. What happened? He has? Man?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes you know, it's these teams, you know,

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Speaker 2: we think it's a medical, we think it's but the

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Speaker 2: playing ability of the guys that just named Taylor, Caesar, Murphy,

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Speaker 2: I mean those were all draftable players to all of

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Speaker 2: them were drafted.

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Speaker 3: Another name that I had was Curtis Jacobs, the linebacker

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Speaker 3: at Penn Stay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Curtis Jacobs and Isaiah Williams, receiver out of Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Those are my two guys. I really liked Isaiah Williams.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was really talented. He ended up in

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Speaker 4: Detroit as an undrafted free agent. There was some talented

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Speaker 4: guys in this undrafted pool for sure.

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Speaker 2: All Right.

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Speaker 3: Some of the questions that we got as we put

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Speaker 3: out some twitter on the twenty we had, which player

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Speaker 3: from Chance Johnson was the biggest steal in the draft

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Speaker 3: from where they were valued in comparison to where they

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Speaker 3: were taken in your opinion? So the Cowboys are overall,

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Speaker 3: I think, just overall.

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Speaker 2: The biggest steal.

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Speaker 5: Man, This one's that's a tough, tough yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: In the first round, for me, the one that I

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Speaker 3: looked at was Teary and Arnold going all the way

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Speaker 3: to the Lions there in the twenties. I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: I had him as the number one corner and for

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Speaker 3: him and the Lions needed a cornerback for Arnold to

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Speaker 3: slide to where he did and for them to be

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Speaker 3: able to get him there. I thought was tremendous value

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Speaker 3: for the first round. For me, he was the best value.

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Speaker 2: I hate. Peyton Wilson's the guy for me. And I

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Speaker 2: know it's injury history and all that, but where Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: took him. If if Peyton Wilson stays healthy like he

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Speaker 2: did at North Carolina State, the Pittsburgh Steelers completely stole

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Speaker 2: a player here from the draft board. Yeah. And the

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Speaker 2: only thing, the only thing that was hurting Peyton Wilson

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Speaker 2: was the tape and in excuse me, the injuries. Sure,

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Speaker 2: somebody until somebody in with one of my Gang of

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Speaker 2: seven or any of those guys tell me different, I'm

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Speaker 2: always going to believe that guy right there will be

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Speaker 2: a steal for the team that draft because I just

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Speaker 2: had this gut that the Cowboys weren't going to take him,

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Speaker 2: you know, it just wasn't going to work out for them.

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Speaker 2: So I was going to see which team I kind

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Speaker 2: of thought. I thought the Ravens. You know, me and

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Speaker 2: my love and the Ravens and the way they draft.

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Speaker 2: My second best love is like the Steelers and the

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Speaker 2: way that they do things. So the fact that he

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Speaker 2: ended up there I thought was a steal for where

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Speaker 2: they got him.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with the Steelers and I'm gonna stick

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Speaker 4: with a Wilson as well. Of them getting Roman Wilson

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Speaker 4: at pick eighty four. I mean, this is a guy

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Speaker 4: whenever we were coming out of Senior Bowl was potentially

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Speaker 4: talking he was going to be in that early second

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Speaker 4: round mix that Keon Coleman and Lad McConkie ended up in.

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Speaker 4: But he ended up slipping to mid third round and

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Speaker 4: the Steelers get a really big time playmaker there.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a really good value for them.

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Speaker 2: Man, the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I mean when we'll talk, maybe on the other side

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Speaker 3: about some of the best drafts, but I think the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: consensus is they were among the top probably three teams

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Speaker 3: they came. I mean their offensive line, they did a

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Speaker 3: great job filling that with foult toime you there in

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Speaker 3: the first round they circle back to Zach Fraser.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers cleaned up. They really don't wait. Let me,

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Speaker 2: can I give you one more We could play this game.

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Speaker 2: We could have a five hours. I'm gonna throw one

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Speaker 2: more into after you. I bet you I get your guy?

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Speaker 2: Who is it? Jayden Hicks? Okay, so fair.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs had my favorite draft, and I think that

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Speaker 3: they they crushed it.

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Speaker 2: But I love what you're doing here with Jaden Hicks.

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Speaker 2: Fire away, Brian No, Jayden Hicks. I mean, for Kansas City. Here,

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Speaker 2: here's the team. They're taking over the role of the

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Speaker 2: sit at the bottom of the board and just kind

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Speaker 2: of wait and maybe make a little move up or Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get in the third

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Speaker 2: fourth round, I'm gonna make another little move up, or

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down and Jaydane Hicks falling in their lap.

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Speaker 2: I I don't know how that happened. It just seems

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Speaker 2: like that these players. When you watch a guy like

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Speaker 2: Jayden Hicks play, you're just like, wow. We there were

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Speaker 2: people that thought that Hicks was over Nuban. I know myself,

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Speaker 2: I had Nuban over Hicks, but I respected Hicks's game

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Speaker 2: a ton And where where Kansas City grabbed him?

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Speaker 3: Yes to me, that agree that was a tremendous value there.

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Speaker 2: The guy that I.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to throw out was Jalen McMillan to get him

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Speaker 3: in the third round at ninety two for Tampa. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and this was a I mean, I think even Roman

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Speaker 3: Wilson slid into the third round when we talked about

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Speaker 3: it the entire time, the amount of wide receivers, but

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Speaker 3: Jalen McMillan I love, And when you look at a

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Speaker 3: guy like Mike Evans who's getting a little bit older,

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Speaker 3: I think Jalen McMillan's going to be a stud there

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Speaker 3: in Tampa Bay for many, many years to come. I

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Speaker 3: loved that selection there, the wide receiver out of Washington,

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite wide receivers in the entire draft. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we got this question from Austin. If Cooper Bebe doesn't

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Speaker 3: end up winning the starting job at center, what do

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Speaker 3: you think the starting five looks like? And do you

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Speaker 3: think Bebe would plug in at maybe left guard if

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Speaker 3: Guidon's not ready to rock at left tackle, and then

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Speaker 3: you move Tyler's Smith out.

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Speaker 4: I think those are all possibilities, don't I don't think

657
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Speaker 4: there's a solidified, hey, we're going to try and make

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Speaker 4: this starting five work going in a training can. I

659
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Speaker 4: don't think that's the mindset. I think it's, Hey, we're

660
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Speaker 4: gonna bring these two guys in, we're gonna work them well.

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Speaker 4: In Bbe's case, we're going to work them at different positions,

662
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Speaker 4: and we're gonna see who's ready to be able to

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Speaker 4: start week one, and if they're not, we're gonna put

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Speaker 4: We're gonna play around with with what we got. So

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Speaker 4: options at center, you got Brock Hoffman, TJ.

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Speaker 5: Bass. Probably you lean more so Hoffman. It feels like TJ. Bass.

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Speaker 4: They want to be able to just hone in at

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Speaker 4: the guard position and let them let him work there.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If Bbe's not ready to start at center, but he's

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Speaker 4: ready to start at guard, they can put him at

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Speaker 4: left guard and put Tyler Smith at left tackle.

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Speaker 5: That's certainly an option.

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Speaker 4: But I think if you ask the team, hey, what

675
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Speaker 4: is your ideal scenario, it is keeping Tyler Smith at

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Speaker 4: left guard and letting everything else play out. I think

677
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Speaker 4: if you ask a team, that is what they want

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Speaker 4: to do. But again, you factor in Hoffman BB to

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Speaker 4: the center position, and then at left tackle you factor

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Speaker 4: in Tyler Geidon and then the depth behind him.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of love. As we on day three

682
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: got to talk to Mike Solari and others about Brock Kaufman.

683
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot more love about him than maybe Dallas media. Uh,

684
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: you know, people around the league, maybe what they think

685
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Speaker 2: about the player. They have a lot of faith in him.

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00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: They didn't, you know, the drafting of a center or

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Speaker 2: another center. High was maybe that you know, Mike Solarius

688
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Speaker 2: and this is redundant. Why are we drafting a center?

689
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Speaker 2: Why are we drafting you know, pure center. Let's let's

690
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Speaker 2: think about this. The the the BB pick makes a

691
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Speaker 2: lot of sense just because he could play a couple

692
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Speaker 2: of different spots, but that there is a lot of

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Speaker 2: love across the hall for Brock Kauffman as a player.

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Speaker 2: And so we'll we'll see if they're we'll see if

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Speaker 2: their admiration for the player is true when we get

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Speaker 2: to training camp.

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Speaker 4: This is not to speak on anyone else not being here,

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Speaker 4: because there's been a lot of players that have been

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Speaker 4: in this building since the end of the season. Brock

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Speaker 4: Coffman's probably the only guy I've seen in here every

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Speaker 4: single day. Yeah, and not only is he working here,

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Speaker 4: he's working across the street with do Mini was So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's putting a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: Seasons and you got to give Brock a lot of

705
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Speaker 3: credit anytime his name was called you talk about the

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Speaker 3: Arizona game Washington, I mean.

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Speaker 2: He played well he did.

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Speaker 3: I mean he he rose to the occasion that tape

709
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Speaker 3: was good there with Brad Coffins, So that's gonna be

710
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Speaker 3: a fun battle with him and Cooper Beebe.

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Speaker 2: But you're right the big thing.

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Speaker 3: And you could see Mike Slauri's face light up, and

713
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: we were asking him like, okay, you get get and

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Speaker 3: how important was that?

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Speaker 2: So you can keep Tyler smith Guard. He's like, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we want to keep do smith Guard. And then Guidance's

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Speaker 2: gonna be fun too. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Last one here from some guy named Bobby Belt. And

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Speaker 3: this might be a little bit of an arrogant question

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Speaker 3: here if you ask me, but why didn't they draft

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Speaker 3: a running back and fellas I think, and you guys

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Speaker 3: may agree, I think he probably Dukes. We've all talked

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Speaker 3: about this. When they decided to go with Maris Leuisfowl

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Speaker 3: a linebacker instead of taking Marshawn Lloyd, instead of taking

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Speaker 3: Jalen Wright.

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Speaker 2: Then they got wiped out.

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Speaker 3: And and I don't think that there really another I

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Speaker 3: mean we're sitting here, we all looking like, what are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do? I think that they would have been

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Speaker 3: kind of reaching over some other guys. They had great

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Speaker 3: a hire just to take a running back for the

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Speaker 3: sake of taking one once they decided to go with

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Speaker 3: marriage Luifoul.

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Speaker 2: When Lui Foul got picked, I lost my dream for

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Speaker 2: drafting a running back because I didn't think this thing

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Speaker 2: was gonna stretch, you know. I mean, I my love

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Speaker 2: for Lloyd and Wright and those guys were was big.

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Speaker 2: And so when you passed on that, I'm thinking, you're

739
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Speaker 2: not gonna get those guys. Those guys aren't gonna slide.

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Speaker 2: And so, like I said, I applaud them for not

741
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: reaching for somebody just to reach for somebody. I've seen

742
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Speaker 2: him do this before, where they just take a running

743
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Speaker 2: back and the kid, you know, he doesn't look good

744
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: in camp, you try him on the practice squad and

745
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: then the next thing you know, he's gone. You know,

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Speaker 2: they move him off the practice squad. So yeah, they

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Speaker 2: you know, And I don't know, I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Zeke signing or the potential of Zeke signing took them

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Speaker 2: out of that. I don't know if I'm right or

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Speaker 2: wrong about that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jerry Jones said that that Zeke coming back

752
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: into the equation was a big factor into their running

753
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: back discussion going into the draft.

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Speaker 5: But I I find that really hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the Yeah, I I you know,

756
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Speaker 2: I think they did. I think they you know, what

757
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Speaker 2: do they do? You know, Nick did a great job

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Speaker 2: for Dallas Cowboys dot Com when it came to the

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Speaker 2: thirty visit thing. Yeah, absolutely, you guys were you guys

760
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: were on top of that, really on top of that,

761
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: and you know you're reporting this and you know, reporting

762
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: this back and it seemed like they had all these

763
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: running backs coming in. So it was a concern. It

764
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Speaker 2: was something that like, Okay, maybe we need to address this.

765
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they we'll see, we'll see, history will play

766
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: the thing that And I've said this before, and I'm sorry, folks,

767
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I repeat myself. I do this a lot. But the

768
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: when when when they lost out, when Green Bay took

769
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Speaker 2: my guy right after them, when they took Lloyd right

770
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Speaker 2: after you know, they took the linebacker, that's when I

771
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Speaker 2: my mine went Okay, I felt like I had the

772
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Speaker 2: guy right that's where okay, that's where he should have

773
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Speaker 2: been taken, you know, And and Dallas had a chance

774
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: to take Lloyd, and you know they but but listen

775
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: to them talk about this linebacker. The Scott Mcurley linebacker.

776
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: They did not want to get caught in the situation

777
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: again like they had last year. We're poor, you know,

778
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: they got safeties playing down in the box as linebackers.

779
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: They wanted to make sure that they protected themselves that way.

780
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: And history will show whether they were right or wrong

781
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 5: I hate grading picks because I think it's real.

783
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Speaker 2: We need to wait and see how they play.

784
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Speaker 5: I hate grating.

785
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: But would you guys have taken Luifoul over the running

786
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Speaker 4: backs that we're still on the board, if you have

787
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: the opportunity to take that pick right now?

788
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Speaker 5: What would me?

789
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: Personally? You?

790
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 5: Personally?

791
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: And they don't. They don't give a damn what I think.

792
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: They don't give a damn what you think.

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00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: They do not they do not give a damn what

794
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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: But what would you do?

796
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: Person Yeah? They I would have taken the runner.

797
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 5: I would have taken Lloyd.

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00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have taken right Well, did a lot

799
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: of sense because the tags to me were touching. They

800
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: were absolutely touching right there to me. And if you said, okay,

801
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: what I what? I the them going out and I

802
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: can understand the kneeling, I can understand the kneeling pick,

803
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: I really do. And then the fact that you were

804
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: able to address that, you know, all of a sudden

805
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: you got Bebe and Giton and you're like, okay, you

806
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: got this offensive line, now go get a runner. You know,

807
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: I can understand why you drafted Neelon. I really can't sure,

808
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: you know, because we're we're sitting there and focus on

809
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: tackles and linebackers. As far as bad run defenders. Their

810
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: edges weren't great. They lost two ends in free AIG

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Speaker 2: they lost, and so they kneeling makes a lot of sense.

812
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: But but when, but when that that linebacker was taken,

813
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: I I said, Okay, they're thinking about this totally different

814
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: than me. But I understood after listening to McCurley and

815
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: them talk day three, they didn't want to get caught

816
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: in a situation where they were short on linebacker. Yeah.

817
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Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with everything you said. That what

818
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: they did make sense. And then when we're sitting there

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Speaker 3: in the fourth round and you're seeing Wright come off

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Speaker 3: the board to Miami and Ray Davis come off the

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Speaker 3: board to Buffalo out.

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Speaker 2: Of Kentucky, I mean, all all the running backs.

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Speaker 3: Just when I think Grendo, Yeah, and when we were

824
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Speaker 3: thinking about maybe isaa garendro can fall, you had a.

825
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Speaker 2: Little skulls were never gonna get Yeah, they were never

826
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Speaker 2: going to get there, no question.

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Speaker 3: All right, there's Twitter on the twenty Thank you to

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Speaker 2: Draft show on what was a player that you thought?

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Speaker 3: Man, that's a great fit, great value, all the above

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Speaker 3: for a certain team in the class. And I think

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Speaker 3: when it was made I had thrown this out there

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Speaker 3: just during the course of the draft, Nick, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was talking to you about it, But to me,

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Speaker 3: I loved the fit of Jared Wiley, the TCU tight

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Speaker 3: end going to Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you.

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Speaker 3: Watch Jared Wiley, big body tight ends, a guy who

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Speaker 3: started his career at Texas local player from Temple High

893
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Speaker 3: School here in a great high school football program there

894
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Speaker 3: with Temple. But Jared Wiley has a lot of I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say, look, this guy's going to

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Speaker 3: turn into a Hall of Fame tight end in Travis Kelcey.

897
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Speaker 3: But to get to go to Kansas City where he's

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Speaker 3: behind Kelsey, he's playing with Patrick Mahomes, he's under Andy Reid,

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Speaker 3: who you know really well, Brian, but he's got some Jared,

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Speaker 3: He's got some Kelsey like trade when you watch him

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Speaker 3: as a receiver. The big question with Jared Wiley was

902
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Speaker 3: okay as a blocker, but he's got the size, like

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt he can develop into

904
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Speaker 3: a better blocker, much like Travis Kelsey has. But my gosh,

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Speaker 3: as a receiving threat, I know, you know, outside of

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Speaker 3: Rock Bauers, I thought he was the best receiving tight

907
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Speaker 3: end in the draft. His ability to stretch the field

908
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Speaker 3: up the middle, down the seam, you get the ball

909
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Speaker 3: in his hands, He's tough to bring down. He's got

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Speaker 3: some quickness to his game. Jared Wiley, I loved that fit.

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Speaker 2: They pick him in the.

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Speaker 3: Fourth round, one thirty one overall to Kansas City. I

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Speaker 3: thought that was a home run selection, and I'm excited

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Speaker 3: to see how he grows and develops there behind Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you.

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Speaker 4: One in each of the first three rounds if I could.

917
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Speaker 4: I know I mentioned it on night one, and I've

918
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Speaker 4: mentioned a lot about oulu Fashnu during the time of

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Speaker 4: the draft show. And just because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Liked him a lot more than everybody else, I was

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Speaker 2: a hater. Hater. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's because I needed I think he needed

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Speaker 4: a red shirt year. I think he needs to come

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Speaker 4: into a program and really develop. He's gonna have the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to do that with the Jets. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a great fit, a great pick. I am picking him

927
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Speaker 4: at eleven if I understand that, Hey, I don't need him.

928
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Speaker 5: To start immediately. I'm taking him at eleven.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, so.

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Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be a really good fit

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Speaker 4: for Olu Fashn, who really liked that pick from the

933
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Speaker 4: Jets because they have Tyron Smith that can kind of

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Speaker 4: help mold him into what they want him to be potentially.

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Speaker 4: Moving on, My second round fit that I really like,

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Speaker 4: and this is a guy that slipped who you could

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Speaker 4: probably talk about really good value. Adam and I Mitchell

938
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Speaker 4: go into the Colts. Sure they needed a receiver coming

939
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Speaker 4: into this draft, and you know, some mocks had them

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Speaker 4: potentially taking one at fifteen or maybe sliding back in

941
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Speaker 4: the first round of grabbing a guy like Xavier Worthy

942
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Speaker 4: or something like that. But they stick at twenty in

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Speaker 4: the second round and they're able to grab Ady Mitchell,

944
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Speaker 4: who can slide in and immediately start at wide receiver

945
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Speaker 4: one for them or wide receiver two next to Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a really good fit for a guy

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Speaker 4: that can stretch the field. He's got the speed to

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Speaker 4: go downfield and be a vertical threat, but he's also

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Speaker 4: got the tree as well, and he's got possession skills. Man,

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Speaker 4: you throw it up to him in the red zone,

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Speaker 4: he's bringing it down. My round three fit that I

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Speaker 4: really like, and this is just it's it's you'll understand

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Speaker 4: Junior Colson to the Chargers.

954
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Speaker 5: I mean he used to go back and play with Harball.

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Speaker 4: It's in a room that just lost Eric Kendricks, so

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Speaker 4: he can slide in and potentially start on day one.

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Speaker 4: I think he is a day one starter, really good

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Speaker 4: pick there by the Chargers, and he's able to go

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Speaker 4: to familiar territory, which is really important for him.

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Speaker 2: You know my love for Ricky Piersoll, so we won't

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Speaker 2: talk about that. I think that's a great fit for

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Speaker 2: him where he had ended up there in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: The guy that I thought was a really great value

964
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Speaker 2: and we kind of talked about him, was Mike sanderstill

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Speaker 2: the Commanders took in the second round, and I really

966
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Speaker 2: like where to me the fact that converted wide receiver

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Speaker 2: that has he's got this this cornerback thing down. I

968
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Speaker 2: mean you watch the awareness he plays with his ability

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Speaker 2: to play with quickness. I mentioned a guy that the

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Speaker 2: traits that I saw a guy from back in my

971
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Speaker 2: day when I Scott. It was Ronde Barber at Tampa Bay. Smaller.

972
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Speaker 2: Sander still is quicker, faster, but he's got those same

973
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Speaker 2: kind of traits. He's sticky, he could play an outside,

974
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Speaker 2: he could play inside. He's a really good blitzer sure,

975
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Speaker 2: and that's what and that's what Ronde Barber used to

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Speaker 2: be able to do. Uh, you know Monti Kiff and

977
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Speaker 2: Rod Marinelli, those guys. They used to blind him up

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Speaker 2: in the slot and bring him on blitzes and he

979
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Speaker 2: would get home and get sacks. He was also really

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Speaker 2: good at the interception aspects of things. I really do

981
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Speaker 2: think that the Commander's got him one that they you know,

982
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Speaker 2: they they were trying to get Jordan Lewis, right, and

983
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Speaker 2: the Commanders they were trying to get Jordan Lewis. Yeah,

984
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Speaker 2: they were looking for a nickel. This guy, immediately, I think,

985
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Speaker 2: is going to come in and play at a high

986
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Speaker 2: level nickel for the Commanders this year. Mike Sander, still,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think in the second round Blake Fisher going to

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Speaker 3: the Texans fifty nine overall from Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I love that pick for them. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: a home run.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, like, just to throw out the opposite

993
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Speaker 3: side of this, like, what was a pick that was

994
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Speaker 3: made that was most puzzling. I liked him more than

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Speaker 3: you did, Brian, but to take him here, I was like, ooh,

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Speaker 3: that's rich for me. Mason Smith, the defensive tackle from LSU.

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Speaker 3: The Jags take him in him at forty eight and

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Speaker 3: we saw that run in defensive tackle, so maybe they

999
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Speaker 3: knew something like we got to go ahead and just pull.

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Speaker 2: The trigger here. But I had a fourth on Mason Smith.

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Speaker 2: They know me forty eight. No, no, you you actually

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Speaker 2: have him, You have him better than well. I think

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Speaker 2: I had him in the fourth too. Here I'm looking

1004
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Speaker 2: at my board. Yeah I did. I had him at fourth,

1005
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Speaker 2: but I didn't have him. I had the the defensive

1006
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Speaker 2: tackle from Texas A and m McKinley Jackson ahead of him.

1007
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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's that. Mason Smith's a gamble now because

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Speaker 2: there's some Nick will tell you all about the five

1009
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Speaker 2: star guy and everything that led into recruiting him. But

1010
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Speaker 2: he's dealt with some injuries now and stuff like that.

1011
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Speaker 2: He tends to play a little high that that could

1012
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Speaker 2: that is very boom or bust right there for that player.

1013
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay back with a seventh round pick. Taj

1014
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Speaker 4: Washington to the Domhins.

1015
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

1016
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Speaker 2: Brendan Rice to the Chargers.

1017
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Speaker 3: Talk about value Rice as the top one hundred player

1018
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Speaker 3: they get him in the seventh round.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How about Austin Booker too was another one. Yeah, talk

1021
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Speaker 2: to the Bears. That's a great pick. Michael Pratt another

1022
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Speaker 2: one too in Green Bay. I'm glad you brought that up.

1023
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Speaker 3: So one of my first So the Chiefs I thought

1024
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Speaker 3: nailed the draft, like getting a guy like Hunter Norsad.

1025
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Speaker 2: You brought up Jaden Hicks.

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Speaker 6: Dyln King.

1027
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Speaker 3: I mean, but Green Bay. I thought Green Bay had

1028
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Speaker 3: an excellent draft. Jordan Morgan I think is a great

1029
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Speaker 3: pick for them. Whether they want to play them at

1030
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Speaker 3: tackler guard, I think they do want to play at tackle.

1031
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Speaker 3: Edrin Cooper in the second round forty five overall, I

1032
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Speaker 3: thought was a perfect spot. They took my guy, Javon Bullard,

1033
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Speaker 3: the safety from Georgia at fifty eight. They lost Darnell Savage.

1034
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Speaker 3: Bullard's a plug and play right there. They got Marshawn

1035
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Speaker 3: Lloyd right after the Cowboys there, Brian Hopper, the linebacker

1036
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Speaker 3: from the Zooked.

1037
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Speaker 2: We liked him as well.

1038
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Speaker 3: But I really loved the three picks that they made

1039
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Speaker 3: in the sixth and then the two and the seventh round.

1040
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Speaker 3: Travis Glover Junior. They did this with John Runyon. They

1041
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Speaker 3: took late and he played. I think Glover's gonna play.

1042
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Speaker 3: I think he's a good player. I the size is there,

1043
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Speaker 3: the athletic traits are there. But then we talked about

1044
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Speaker 3: you throw the dart at the quarterback? Packers did it?

1045
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Speaker 3: Michael Pratt tremendous value. I think we all had him

1046
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Speaker 3: as like that. Next year we're taking him like third round.

1047
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been surprised to see Michael Pratt go

1048
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Speaker 3: off the board. You get him in the seventh out

1049
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Speaker 3: of tu lane and then klan King. That's tremendous value.

1050
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Speaker 3: Brought his name up the corner from Penn State. I

1051
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Speaker 3: thought he'd go anywhere from on day two the second

1052
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Speaker 3: or third round.

1053
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Speaker 2: I did too. I had him as a third round

1054
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Speaker 2: guy there. So yeah, the Packers and they were right

1055
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Speaker 2: behind you the majority of the day. So every time

1056
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Speaker 2: you made a pick, then it came down the Packers

1057
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Speaker 2: and I know, marking off my charts. Some like going, man,

1058
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Speaker 2: that was better. So you start comparing him to the team.

1059
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Speaker 2: You're you know, you're I mean, I'm looking at the Cowboy.

1060
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, I like that pick better than they

1061
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Speaker 2: just made than Dallas just made. I like that pick,

1062
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Speaker 2: but you know, you're just kind of looking at that

1063
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Speaker 2: that way. So I thought the Packers, and it's not

1064
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Speaker 2: the fact that I worked at the Packers. I thought

1065
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Speaker 2: that their board was they did an indicative of my board,

1066
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Speaker 2: And maybe that's a maybe that's a curse for the Packers.

1067
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we're giving them a love and these guys

1068
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Speaker 2: don't turn out to be good. But I liked they also.

1069
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Speaker 5: Picked Keith Nola Dappo there at the end of the

1070
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Speaker 5: fifth round.

1071
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Speaker 4: That's a safety that has a ton of lamb that

1072
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Speaker 4: I think can play in space. Maybe more so a

1073
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Speaker 4: strong guy, but I think he can play.

1074
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Speaker 5: In space too. But that was a safety that I

1075
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Speaker 5: really loved in the process just because of his length.

1076
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Speaker 3: Any other teams stood out to you, guys, It's like, man,

1077
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Speaker 3: they did a great job.

1078
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Speaker 2: I think Baltimore every year we look at them.

1079
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Speaker 3: The two corners they get with Nate Wiggins the end

1080
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Speaker 3: of the first round and then TJ. Tampa and the

1081
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Speaker 3: fourth those were steals.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no one wants to hear it. But the Eagles, man,

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Speaker 5: they had a great class.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it feels like every year I'm gawing at

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Speaker 4: the Eagles class they needed secondary help, and they sured

1086
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: that up really early on with Quentyn Mitchell and Cooper

1087
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: dejen who depending on who you talk to, a lot

1088
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: of those guys or both of those guys have a

1089
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: number one corner slot on a lot of different boards.

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Speaker 5: Jylyx Hunt.

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Speaker 4: They get a super athletic pass rusher there in the

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Speaker 4: third round, and then they're able to get an offensive

1093
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 4: weapon in Anya Smith, and they're able to get the

1094
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Speaker 4: Clemson duo of will Ship Lee and Jeremona Jeremiah Trotter,

1095
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Speaker 4: they get a red zone weapon Johnny Wilson. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a pretty phenomenal draft. And then I don't

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Speaker 4: want to steal from Brian because I feel like he's

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Speaker 4: going to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: But this Pittsburgh draft was probably.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about Pittsburgh and they did a great job, so,

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Speaker 2: you know, and like I say, we'll see. That's a

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Speaker 2: great thing about the draft is, you know, three years

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Speaker 2: I had a guy tell me I had the you

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Speaker 2: know that draft we did in Philadelphia ninety eight. I

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Speaker 2: had a scout tell me I had the worst draft

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00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL, you know, and John Golder,

1107
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: God rest his soul. John said, you just had the

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00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: worst draft in the history of the NFL. I go,

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00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: don't you want to give it a few years and

1110
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: the next thing you know, yeah, four the eight picks

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00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: make the Pro Bowl. So you got to bless you,

1112
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: John GOLs. God bless you. Should let you run that

1113
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: draft class more often. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you all so much. You've been part of this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Brian for everything you've done. Ed Ca Hill,

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Speaker 3: like the founders here of the Draft show, but we

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00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't be here if it weren't for you, man, And

1118
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: thank you so much for having the vision, the love

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00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: and then bringing us along as a mentor to be

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Speaker 3: able to do this.

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Speaker 2: Well. No, you guys have done a hell of a job.

1122
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Speaker 2: Has said it after the draft. It's you know, it's

1123
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: funny we've had now it's different classes. People go on

1124
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: and you know, it's kind of like scouting in the

1125
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Speaker 2: real world. You lose scouts along the way you gain scouts.

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Speaker 2: You guys did a hell of the jobs for the

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00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: put in the work. You have full time jobs too.

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Speaker 2: But the love and the passion you showed for this,

1129
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: the intensity you showed for this, the spirit you have

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Speaker 2: for it. It makes it all worth the while. This

1131
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: is what the Draft show is all about. So thank

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Speaker 2: you guys for all your hard work. Iish as well,

1133
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: sure Kyle Yeoman's Bobby belt and beaming those guys in

1134
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: the back, Derek Gigleton, everybody that gives us this opportunity

1135
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: to talk about these players. It's a special It's a

1136
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Speaker 2: special one that I don't ever take for granted.

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Speaker 3: It is Nick's fantastic job to you as well. Man,

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Speaker 3: Thank you all so much that this has been It's

1139
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: been a dream and can't wait to run it back

1140
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: do it again next year. So so we'll wait, we'll

1141
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: put this one to bed, and then we'll come back.

1142
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Speaker 2: We'll talk more to draft. We'll be here before you

1143
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: know it.

1144
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Speaker 4: I have added the first player to my board, and

1145
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: he's not gonna be the first overall pick, Harold Perkins

1146
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: at LSU.

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Speaker 3: There, let's go, let's get early peak, all right, enjoy it, everybody,

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Speaker 3: We love you. Thank you so much until next draft season.

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Speaker 3: Hugs and handpounds everybody.

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