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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too, our number two here on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It is our final power rankings Tuesday of the regular

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Speaker 2: season as we are now transitioning into the playoffs. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Matt, I've got to tell you

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Speaker 3: Oh I've heard, yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: on site there on Saturday night. You'll also, you know,

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Speaker 2: get to chop it up with myself and Tom Opferman

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Speaker 2: obviously Rob and Charlie. So Steelers Playoff party yep, Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: We you know, we do a few of those on

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Speaker 2: the road usually every year and it's always a wild scene.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what it's going to be like

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Speaker 2: at home Saturday night before we get to the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Texans wild Card game. It sure will matt one more

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Speaker 2: thing before where we get to Power rankings. Trinidad Chambliss,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback of Old Miss who we've discussed many times,

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Speaker 2: posted on his Twitter account basically a statement that he

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Speaker 2: is going to finish his college career in Oxford at

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Speaker 2: Old Miss now, so.

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Speaker 3: That means he's going back, he said.

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Speaker 2: As we continue to chase something special this you know,

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Speaker 2: this year and next year. So he would still have

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Speaker 2: But I think he's lay next year. Yes, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: because guys who have started their careers in JUCO or

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Speaker 2: a lot of success getting an additional year of waiver eligibility.

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Speaker 2: But it looks like he's not going to transfer. He's

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Speaker 2: he gets that waiver, he will be back in college

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Speaker 2: football next year.

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Speaker 3: So looks like, I mean, just the wording you're looking

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Speaker 2: Are he worked it in a little vaguely?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just said I'm not going to I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And the NCAA has been so afraid with these guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not sure that all the head coaching

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Speaker 2: as are the Tennessee Titans, who check in at twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: They I think of all these clearly bottom of the

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Speaker 3: And have some hope. Yeah right, I'm not saying they'll

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Speaker 2: Almost all these teams that we continue to list here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they're a bottom feeder, but I don't

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Speaker 2: And you have some pieces too, Yeah, you got some

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Speaker 3: They should signs the life at the end too. They

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes they did. They did beat the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Picking picking sixth in the over in the in the

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Speaker 2: so all these teams looking for I tell you what,

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure he won't be a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly think that that's a possibility. Twenty six

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Speaker 3: Miserable end of the season and.

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Speaker 2: but right before you and I started, Cliff Kingsbury will

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's gonna happen in the NFL

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Speaker 2: The big fish have hired their candidates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, you know, the.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't see him taking like a.

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Speaker 3: I associate with him with college a lot, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean he was you know him and Mahomes

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Speaker 3: Might he won a premier, premier OC job at the

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Speaker 2: That's what I think it would be like. I don't

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Speaker 2: don't see him unless it's offensive coordinator at Ohio State

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's what I think. You could go back

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Speaker 2: Twenty five The Miami Dolphins are they are they sticking?

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Speaker 2: McDaniel is staying.

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Speaker 3: I think that they made the general manager change already.

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Speaker 2: can't see them hiring a general manager that's going to say,

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Speaker 2: Maybe they look at someone like a Kevin Stefanski and go,

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Speaker 2: Last Yeah, I'm not sure that's a good to look

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of coordinator stuff happening.

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Speaker 2: He just would also be like, hey, Jim Schwartz, where

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, Jerry should give Schwartz anything he wants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would be the highest paid defensive coordinator the league.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Hey, buddy, I promise you if you continue to

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Speaker 3: Had every ye, Yeah, you'll be a lot happier here.

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Speaker 2: Another team looking for their next head coach, the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about their situation. But they got rid of

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Speaker 2: They just got crushed with injuries. Yeah, and weren't able

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Speaker 2: I know the division is still going to be really tough.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is at sixteen, Baltimore's at fifteen, Carolina at fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's you're just putting them in there

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Speaker 2: Now, the real question, Matt is at thirteen, who would

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Speaker 3: I say those are the three teams I would consider.

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Speaker 3: But I'll be honest, if the Chargers were coming here,

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Speaker 2: If I could pick any opponent that would be come

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Speaker 3: They would be my choice.

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Speaker 2: They would be my choice.

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Speaker 3: And I have great respect for Herbert, but they would

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Speaker 3: They might get it right. They might. They've been bad lately,

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Speaker 2: Herbert can overcome a lot. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: They don't block anybody.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this whole Cam Newton thing with game

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Speaker 2: like Herbert, like, have you watched Herbert play this year?

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Speaker 3: Fine, I love the defense. The offense has a lot

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Speaker 2: They are, they're a little they're a little worried in

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked at. I mean, in Seattle's d is great too.

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Speaker 3: Still very GOODE or six, you know, but I was

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Speaker 2: Perhaps the story of the year in the National Football League. Matt,

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears check in at number eight.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I'm totally on board that. I

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Speaker 3: said this over and over. I know it's repetitive, but

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville in Chicago, for real told me, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Stamp it. The Rams check in at number seven.

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Speaker 3: That bothers me. I'd have them higher, but they I

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Speaker 3: just mentioned Seattle. I'm sure Seattle's won. I think the

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Speaker 3: Rams have a good chance to win it all as

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Speaker 3: any team, but Seattle. They would be DA would be

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Speaker 3: two for me.

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Speaker 2: They would absolutely be in my top three or four. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have them at seven, like I.

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Speaker 3: Think they're better than the Jags or the Bills or Houston.

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Speaker 2: Houston at six.

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Speaker 3: So fiddling with final dvo A today, you know, football

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Speaker 3: siders they've Houston is the third best team in the league.

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Speaker 2: It was all said and done, who's one and two?

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Speaker 3: I didn't even look. I looked at Steelers in Houston,

455
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Speaker 3: got a comparison, who had to you know, where their offenses,

456
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Speaker 3: special teams, everything landed, And I was I'm not all

457
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Speaker 3: that shocked they won nine in a row. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what do you have to do to get up to

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Speaker 3: two or three on this list? Besides with nine in

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Speaker 3: a row?

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Speaker 2: Crazy crazy? Maybe have Josh Allen at quarterback the Bills

462
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Speaker 2: check the Bills check in at five fare thee well

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Speaker 2: to Orchard Park unless some crazy voodoo magic can end

464
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Speaker 2: up happening where they somehow host a playoff game. But

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Speaker 2: I think that what they would need, like the Chargers,

466
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Speaker 2: the couple. Yeah, yeah, they need some big upsets.

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Speaker 3: But then I totally get it, and I I totally

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Speaker 3: understand the respect for Allen, which is deserved. But I

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Speaker 3: would have the Rams and Texans ahead of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the Texans, but I would. I

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Speaker 2: would definitely have the Rams. Yeah, yeah, Josh Allen's carrying

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Speaker 2: a lot of weight for me this time of year.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Number four the Denver bron.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget the Wantay Adams comes back though too.

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Speaker 2: It's a great point, great point, Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Number Broncos and Patriots have had great years. I don't

478
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Speaker 3: know if they're great teams. Agreed, Yeah, they so have

479
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Speaker 3: to prove them.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have second, I don't know if there's

481
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Speaker 2: a great team in the AFC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which

482
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Speaker 2: is encouraging news if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers currently.

483
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Speaker 3: And I'm a Knicks believer, but in the AFC quarterback pantheon,

484
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Speaker 3: he's not super high. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow or something.

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Speaker 3: Game manager he kind of is. But maybe we should

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Speaker 3: rank the quarterbacks one to fourteen. Okay, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 3: that on my list for tomorrow or Thursday or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Will I do that? You tell me how you found.

489
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Speaker 3: Used to build a spreadsheet of every position, every coach.

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Speaker 3: I would rank the playoffs. I don't know. I'm not

491
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Speaker 3: doing that tonight, by the way.

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Speaker 2: The weird world of Matt Williams. Right, Maybe we'll do

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Speaker 2: that as an offseason exercise.

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Speaker 3: Just do the playoff teams I do. I'd rank them

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Speaker 3: all one to fourteen. Running back room, tight end room, oh,

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Speaker 3: line room, you.

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Speaker 2: Know herd alert number. Yeah, so Broncos at four and

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Speaker 2: then your top three Jags, three Pats, two, Seahawks, Numero Uno.

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Speaker 3: I get it again, they're all flawed.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about New England too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, say their defense has not been spectacular. I mean,

502
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Speaker 3: as much as I adore May and he would be

503
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Speaker 3: my MVP, do you trust them to win three games

504
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Speaker 3: in this environment? Or Nicks?

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Speaker 2: And again, when you consider that, you're asking the same

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Speaker 2: question about Nicks, and the same question about Trevor Lawrence,

507
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Speaker 2: and I know, same question about C. J. Stroud or

508
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Speaker 2: he Herbert who still never won a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and again, Allen is the nuclear weapon?

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Speaker 2: You ready for this before we break here and get

511
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Speaker 2: to our coaching conversation On the other side, I actually

512
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Speaker 2: wrote this down for you. Playoff wins amongst starting playoff

513
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Speaker 2: postseason quarterbacks play almost a fourteen that are in the

514
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Speaker 2: postseason their career playoff wins. Number one Aaron Rodgers with eleven,

515
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Speaker 2: number number number two, Josh Allen was seven, number three,

516
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts was six, number five, matth sorry number four,

517
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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford with five, Brock Party five with four, c J.

518
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Speaker 2: Stroud sixth with two, Okay, Jordan Love and Herbert or

519
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence each have one, and then

520
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Speaker 2: Darnald Herbert, Bryce Young, Drake May Bow Knicks, and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: So six of the quarterbacks of the six of the

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Speaker 2: of the fourteen quarterbacks have none.

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Speaker 3: So I'd like to reiterate this. And this isn't in

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Speaker 3: defense of the Steelers not winning one, but they only

525
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Speaker 3: give you thirteen wins a year, you know, and the

526
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champ gets three or four of them. The

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Speaker 3: super Bow running at runner up gets or three of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that eats him up pretty quick. I just looked real quick.

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Speaker 2: Would you say Rogers was at eleven?

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Speaker 3: What's your guests on Mahomes fifteen seventeen?

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Speaker 2: Good? Lord, it's a.

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Speaker 3: He's half his age Rogers. Lord, that's on a knock

533
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Speaker 3: on Rogers. He's had a ridiculous career. Think about that though.

534
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Speaker 3: Seventeen playoff wins. Yeah, that's the.

535
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Speaker 2: Type of greed they speak about in the Bible.

536
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. Yes, let's get the break here, obscene.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the break here and talk about this this

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Speaker 2: coaching carousel some more when we return on the other side, Williamson,

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Speaker 2: it's the Steelers Blitz on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive. Here, my apologies to Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: to Nathan, to Tyler, because for only the second time

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Speaker 2: this year I called it the Steelers blitz there and

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Speaker 2: the sec Yeah, you know, I wonder if the first

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the first time I did it was

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Speaker 2: that on.

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Speaker 3: It you've said that, you said the words, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know what, though I seek no comfort, all right,

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Speaker 2: I should have cut my island. I should have cut

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Speaker 2: my eyelids off and just looked at the mug in

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Speaker 2: front of me that says S and R. Drive right

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Speaker 2: on its fifty push ups, twenty five sit ups and

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Speaker 2: ten hail Mary's which, by the way, peek behind the

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Speaker 2: curtain for you all. Speaking of which, the priest who

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Speaker 2: did the holy water, his name's father Max. I did some.

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Speaker 2: I put on my journalistic my Dale Wally, my chris

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Speaker 2: A Damski. Yeah, I put on my journalism jacket and

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Speaker 2: I went digging and I got stairway to heaven. Denied

560
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Speaker 2: try to get him on the show, Oh did you?

561
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Speaker 2: But I was told he's not taking questions or doing

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Speaker 2: interviews at this time.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Tried to get him on the show. I thought that'd

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Speaker 2: be a fun, a fun, a fun little five minute

566
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Speaker 2: conversation everybody, Yes, I thought, so okay, yeah, yeah, yes

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Speaker 2: he is so big. Shout out to Uh to uh

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Speaker 2: to Father Max. But he will not be joining the

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Speaker 2: drive on Steeler.

570
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Speaker 3: You never know where that final kicks gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Go up into the broadcast booth and put some of

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Speaker 2: that holy water up there for Sue. Tyler wants some

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Speaker 2: on his on his his equipment and gear so he

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Speaker 2: doesn't get run over in the postgame celebrations. That's what

575
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Speaker 2: we need to do. Love Tyler calling as a guest

576
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Speaker 2: to talk about the pandemonium on the on the sideline

577
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Speaker 2: postgame after Loop missed it ride right wide right, Yeah,

578
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Speaker 2: all those Baltimore dorks wearing their purple Camo pants at

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Speaker 2: Akrosture Stadium on Sunday screaming, I wonder audible it was?

580
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: It was audible? Which Hey, anytime Heath Miller made a

581
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: catch in any stadium, you heard Heath anytime move? Does it?

582
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: You hear moved?

583
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: But it might now, but right, cooler when we do it.

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00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: It's cooler when we do it exactly right, and like, hey,

585
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Speaker 2: maybe hold off on giving your rookie kick or something

586
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: that cool before he earns it. But I digress. Six

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: head coaching vacancies. I believe, by my two are already

588
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: out there, by my math in the NFL right now.

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00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm betting there's more.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I would say probably, I would. Okay, So would

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Speaker 2: you say over under a half more coaching firings head coach,

592
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Speaker 2: not coordinators head coach.

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Speaker 3: Now. I don't think any of the playoff teams, including Pittsburgh, folks,

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Speaker 3: I mean I did, if anything.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore, I mean we kind of went there yesterday. Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore and Tampa those maybe one of those two.

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00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that they haven't happened yet. I mean

599
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: they've had such.

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Speaker 2: Lately no no, no, no, too good last year, too

601
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Speaker 2: much of a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's too valuable. But I could see and I

603
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: don't know anything about it. I mean, but Tampa and

604
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: Baldoen would be such a big decision. It's not like

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00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: whither Raiders were terrible, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: One year Pete Carroll that didn't work. Get them out

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Speaker 2: of here.

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00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So maybe there's that's a two day conversation inside

609
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: the building and people are lobbying keep them, don't. I

610
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: tend to think Harball's safe, but you know how this

611
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: thing works. Yeah, Miami we already talked about.

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Speaker 2: But probably safe, I think so. Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I can't really come up with any others.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think Aaron Glenn's gonna get canned after

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Speaker 2: one year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think we kind of know that at this point, and.

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Speaker 2: I think they would have done that already if that

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Speaker 2: was going to.

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Speaker 3: Be I don't think there's any old guys retiring or

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Speaker 3: stepping away for the broadcast booth or any of that.

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Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, I don't think so. So six vacancies for

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Speaker 2: NFL head coach currently Cardinals, Brown's Falcons, Titans, Giants, and

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Speaker 2: of course they lost Vegas raid of those six, Which

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Speaker 2: job would you want if you were the young, sexy,

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Speaker 2: up and coming next head coach, Matt Williamson, if you

627
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Speaker 2: were have Ben Johnson of this of this cycle, where

628
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: would which job would you want?

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Speaker 3: I guess Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: I think it's there or Vegas?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ward more of the Mendoza, Yeah, today, I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if Vegas, and this is probably true

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Speaker 2: of Tennessee, you've got a real kind of blank slate.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like you're gonna have some time, You're gonna

635
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Speaker 2: have some real salary cap and draft capital to work with.

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Speaker 3: I was never in the coaching world, but it was

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Speaker 3: five years or so ago I put down my ideal

638
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Speaker 3: criteria if I were shopping, because we did a bunch

639
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Speaker 3: of shows about when there was this time of year

640
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Speaker 3: and ownership. Who my quarterback is, salary caps, base draft resources,

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Speaker 3: you know who's in my division. You know those type

642
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Speaker 3: of things, And I don't know the one stands out

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Speaker 3: way more than the other. I mean, a lot of

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Speaker 3: these teams need a lot.

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00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: Raiders have projected one hundred point eight million dollars in

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Speaker 2: salary cap space, the second most in the least the top.

647
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Speaker 2: Titans not terribly far behind. Ninety five million dollars is third.

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Speaker 2: Titans pick fourth overall, Raiders pick first. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think I like cam Ward a little bit more

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Speaker 2: than Mendoza, But I also love having Ashton Genty and

651
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers already at my disposal. Improve that offensive line

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Speaker 2: and give me Mendoza and I can work with that offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I think.

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Speaker 2: Those are the clear cut best too. If you were

655
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 2: to ask me which job I would won if I

656
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: was a forty four year old ascending NFL head coach.

657
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: South Is and Slouches, but you might have three Hall

658
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: of Fame head coaches to compete with in the West, Definitely,

659
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: Peyton and good Point.

660
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: Falcons would be a decent one, but they have no

661
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: cap space and no first round pick.

662
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: And they have quarterback problems and no first round pack.

663
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like you get a lot of you get a

664
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: lot of leash there. You get a lot of yea,

665
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: not a you know, a hot temperature fan. It's going

666
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: to come after you after a couple of bad results.

667
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: Divisions favorable, divisions favorable, you can turn around.

668
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: But they don't have a lot working for him. Giants

669
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: only have eleven million in projected cap space. They do

670
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: pick fifth overall. I guess it would depend on if

671
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: you want to work with Jackson Dart or not.

672
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Right, That's one of the reasons I took Tennessee over them.

673
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again.

674
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: I think Raiders more around dark than there is Ward. Yes,

675
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: neighbors Thomas and Lawrence and you know right.

676
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and your boy Johnny Knoxville, Sketty Be Browns. I

677
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: think it's They're only problem is they have no cap space,

678
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: negative twelve million dollars.

679
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: They have a lot of picks, two first.

680
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Round picks, and somewhat of a nest built if you

681
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: were able to find the right quarterback.

682
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: I think they have a defense. I think they are.

683
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Entirely but you've got you've got a running back.

684
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: They Judkins fan and Judy will be back. Yeah, I

685
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: don't know what they'll do a quarterback. Let's just do

686
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: a quick thumbnail on each of the ones that just

687
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: came open Tennessee. I think in Giants we've discussed Raiders

688
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 3: had to happen to that too. I mean, because his

689
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: whole goal when you hired Pete.

690
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: Carroll was to be good.

691
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: Right now, make us relevant again, you know, you create competition.

692
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: Win eight or nine games and have us playing meaningful

693
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: football at Christmas.

694
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then maybe and then maybe we'll hand it

695
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: off to the next guy or whatever. You know that

696
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: the young pop you know, build a culture here. We

697
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: only know you're for the short term. And they were

698
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: the worst in the league, you know, you know, like

699
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: I want to see Genti and Bowers and Crosby on

700
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: and Gino on the billboards. And get this fan base excited.

701
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: We're still new around here, and you didn't accomplish that

702
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: at all.

703
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: He went the opposite one. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm

704
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: with you on that.

705
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: So that one was the easiest decision for me.

706
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: In terms of firing the coaches of.

707
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: The Black Monday one. Yeah, again, I'm.

708
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: Ignoring Carndles maybe too.

709
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it just came down the point where nothing

710
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: going you even won forever his years, Yeah.

711
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: Thirty year there, and there's there's been nothing to kind

712
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: of hang your hat on.

713
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: The thing I commend him for is he inherited a

714
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: horrific roster two years ago or so. And on both

715
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: sides of the ball, they were very creative Schematically, they

716
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: ain't know good ingredients, but they made they were hard

717
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: to play against. Like, boy, they're doing defensive things nobody

718
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: else does, and boy, they're running games really innovative chicken

719
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: scratch out of Yeah, but then you at the points like, dude,

720
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: you're you're not winning anything. They got hit hard by injury,

721
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: they did, and it's a tough division. But I think

722
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: that's probably the next easiest decision.

723
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Did the Browns make the right decision? I don't know.

724
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: Because he's a pretty good I know he gets a

725
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: ton of flak in this town.

726
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: If I were the Raiders with Mendoza, the Giants with

727
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: dart or Tennessee, who I think is gonna hire Naggy

728
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: with Ward the Fancy could be my head guy and

729
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: at my coordinator, my head guys.

730
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Bengals, I think I'd rather have Stefanski

731
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: than Zach taylor Oh as my head coach.

732
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's a top twenty head coach, maybe

733
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: even top fifteen. He's won the Award twice. I don't

734
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: put a ton of stock in that. I don't think

735
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: he's one of the you know, an all time great

736
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer or whatever. But I think he's a

737
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: really good offensive mind. I all these teams, I assume

738
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: when the head coach is fired, unless we've heard differently,

739
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: the whole staff is fired. But if I'm them, I

740
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: would love to keep schwartz Oh in company. Yeah, absolutely right,

741
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: I absol don't mess with the defense.

742
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Of all these six jobs, which one would you want

743
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: the least? I think it might be the Cardinals.

744
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: For me, that's an uphill climb.

745
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Your division is so good, so hard you have no

746
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: momentum for a fan base. No, I mean, and I'm

747
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: not trying to poop poo, but like, bring Max Starks

748
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: in here, bring Arthur Motes in all these ex Steelers

749
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: who went out there and played.

750
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you've not a great environment, no, not any

751
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: give ownership at least Cleveland.

752
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: The second they start winning again, that place will be

753
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: a hornet's nest atmosphere and environment and you know and

754
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: all that, and it'd be nice. Same with the Giants,

755
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: like and I don't.

756
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: Know what's gonna happen with Dante more, but I mean

757
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: it'd be nice. You picked in the top two. Your

758
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: path through quarterbacks.

759
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Not real sharp either for the third overall.

760
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: I mean you're in striking distance. You could you know,

761
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: Briset and move up or whatever. I'm assuming quarterback goes

762
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: one two if yeah, it comes out just because it's

763
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: the Jets and Raiders and they both need them. But

764
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: maybe that changes, you know, maybe that changes. But there's

765
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: also not a Miles Garrett or Jamar Chase, you know,

766
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: position player.

767
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: Justin field cylinder contract for the Jets.

768
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: He signed a two year deal, but they can get

769
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: out of it very easily.

770
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though if you bring a Dante

771
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: More in there with the Justin fields, that's not the

772
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: worst possible you know, landing spot for it.

773
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: I think their offense actually is an okay nest.

774
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: They've got some nice piece of line in a franchise

775
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: tag Bressee Hall.

776
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: I guess we'll yeah, defen but they got a million picks.

777
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: As soon as the as soon as maybe the Super

778
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Bowl's over, maybe after the combine will do like a

779
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: state of each franchise.

780
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, week we're digging heavy. Yeah. The team leading

781
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: touch ons the Falcons, and they're one of the most

782
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: interesting ones.

783
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: They're intriguing because the division's not good, right, but neither

784
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: is your cap space in your draft.

785
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Capital, right. So I think what happened here is all

786
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: brick to me, the defensive coordinator. They gave him a

787
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: lot of resources. They gave him both those young first

788
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: round defensive ends. He turned what has been one of

789
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: the worst offenses in the league or defense is in

790
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: the league for twenty years into respectable into respectable aggressive,

791
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, like he's going to get hired somewhere. Like

792
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: that side of the ball got way better. But they

793
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: also were kind of dumb in that they you can't

794
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: just ignore one side of the ball. The whole offseason.

795
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: They did nothing on offense zero, just totally ran it

796
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 3: back and just assumed everybody would be fine. You gotta

797
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: add some kind of reinforcements, and they didn't. But they

798
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: they fired the head guy in the whole staff presumably,

799
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: and the uh GM. Now I think the GMS. The

800
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: GM to me made two huge sins is he went

801
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: all in on two big moves, paid cousins like crazy,

802
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: and then ten minutes later you draft Penix. That's a

803
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: huge move.

804
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Did they move up to get Pennox two or no?

805
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: No, they were at like ten or whatever. If they had,

806
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: they moved up like a spot. I don't think so.

807
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: And then the next draft you go all in and

808
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: trade your future first for Pierce, you know, to put

809
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: next to Walker. So those are two of the biggest

810
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: GM putting your Cajoni's on the table moves in the

811
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: last year live or die right, and neither was a

812
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: disaster disaster, but both you would take back. Yeah, you know,

813
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: so that's probably enough for an owner to be like,

814
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm giving you a lot to play with here, and

815
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: you were kind of over too on big.

816
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Swing yeah, you know, it makes a lot of sense.

817
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: And Morris I think is really really respected. I think

818
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: he's really close with Tomlin. But game day he was bad,

819
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: like in timeouts and game management and things of that nature.

820
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Tom Wlin will add them to the staff.

821
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that'd be great. You know, maybe he's just

822
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: a lifetime assistant, you know, not the respect did and

823
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: all that. So I understand where they're coming from.

824
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: All right, last one for you as we start to

825
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: wrap this up. According to Henry McKenna, I'm not sure

826
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: who that is, but he works. He works for Fox Sports.

827
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: Aside from Naggi and Stefanski, these are the hottest rumored

828
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: seven hottest rumored candidates for head coaching job.

829
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Mostly defensive. I bet. I mean at least those the

830
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: list that I've.

831
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Which is funny because it feels like that goes back

832
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Ebbs and Flows every like last year a defensive minded.

833
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: This year a lot more of the candidates are defensive minded.

834
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: It's like at Ebbs and Flows. Uh. Here are the

835
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: seven names again, he says, other than Stefanski and Naggy,

836
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: here are these seven names. Brian Flores. Uh, I hope

837
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: he gets a shot, same same Clint Kubiak, Seahawk's offensive coordinator. Yeah,

838
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter, for.

839
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: Sure, high respecting.

840
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: Here's another one. I've heard his name all over the

841
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: place the last couple of weeks. Rams defensive coordinator Chris.

842
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: Shula Ye Don's grandson, grandson.

843
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I have had a feeling that there

844
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: was a connection. Yeah, yeah, grandson, that's awesome. Packers defensive

845
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: coordinator Jeff Haffley.

846
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: Okay, might be a little early for him, Might be.

847
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: A little early for him. Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph.

848
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: I think he might be almost a lock to get

849
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: one of them.

850
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: And the former Commander's offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury.

851
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

852
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: And I really like Kingsbury. I do because I go

853
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: back to watching him as a head coach in the

854
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: Big twelve, like you know, But I don't. I just

855
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: don't think he's an NFL head coach.

856
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure either.

857
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a brilliant mind. I think he's a

858
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: I think he could be a very effective college heck coach.

859
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: I think he can be a very good NFL oc

860
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: You've you've just got to have like you have to

861
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: have some innate charismatic characteristics to be an NFL head coach.

862
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is off the charts in that strength in

863
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: that in that regard, I think even someone like Harball

864
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: is off the charts. Even someone like Sean McVay, who

865
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: may make no mistake about it as a brainiac genius,

866
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: he still has that charismatic leadership.

867
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: To hell, oh yeah, you're like, how fast coach?

868
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: If coach asked me to run through the wall, I'm

869
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: not gonna ask why. I'm gonna put my chin strap

870
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: on and I'm gonna do it. Yeah, you know, Like,

871
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: I just don't know if Kingsbury is that guy.

872
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Speaker 3: Like he was on these lists a year ago for

873
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: what he did with Daniels and the offense because they

874
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. But I don't see him. He

875
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: didn't improve his stock since last year.

876
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No way, Yeah, well absolutely not

877
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: this year. He's only forty six years old, which is crazy,

878
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: like he's he's still he's still so young relatively in

879
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: that industry. Forty six year old is a baby in

880
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: terms of, you know, being an NFL head coach.

881
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: But immediately when I saw the report today that they

882
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: decided to part ways. I wouldn't be shocked if tomorrow

883
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: were like, he's already got a job, like you know,

884
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: it's for something specific whatever that is, college pro whatever.

885
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe, I don't know. I wouldn't like that.

886
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that right now. I'll tell you that

887
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: right now.

888
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: Mahomes are tight, right, Yeah, that was.

889
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: His He was Mahomes. He was Mahomes' college coach. When

890
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: when Mahomes was at Texas Tech.

891
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: So when he's young and find you know.

892
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: My favorite Cliff's Cliff Kingsbury is you and I have

893
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: laughed about this before, Like these James Franklins of the

894
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: world who get paid fifty million dollars to go away

895
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: and then they have another job two seconds later. Oh,

896
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: I know.

897
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: It was a crazy world, right.

898
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury when he got fired from the Cardinals. Yes,

899
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, he was like,

900
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go live in Asia for a for a

901
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: couple of years. He was like, I'm gonna go to

902
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: like Thailand or Taiwan or somewhere. He's like and just

903
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: and just you know, like take a sabbatical.

904
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: And get away from it.

905
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: All like three weeks. Three weeks later he took the

906
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: head coaching job at USC, or the offensive coordinator job

907
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: at USC under under like Lincoln Riley or whatever it was.

908
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: It's like, these guys are psychos, man, they just can't

909
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: they just can't turn it off.

910
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: I heard some things about like Stefanski too, like people

911
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: close to him or have said, like, man, he's got

912
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: so beat up through this whole Watson nightmare. I mean, like,

913
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: take a year off, but these guys never do.

914
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: He's been dealt a very tough hand over.

915
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: The last few years.

916
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: Tough take a year off, some time with your family.

917
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: But again, that's not how these guys get to be

918
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: in the one percent of the one percent in their industry.

919
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: They are. That's how they got there.

920
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: They are just wired differently. Look at Philip Rivers for

921
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: another perfect example. Yeah, are just wired differently. One more segment, Togo,

922
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: We'll close this thing down when we return. On the

923
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Speaker 2: other side. It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

924
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. You are too about Drive on.

925
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

926
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

927
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: Wrapping the show up here on a Tuesday, we have

928
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: got some tweets to get to as we uh put

929
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: a bow on this thing. Rodney tweets us and points

930
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: out the strength of victory for the Steelers.

931
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: I saw that.

932
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the highest strength of victory of any

933
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: of the AFC playoff teams. Meaning just how the teams

934
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: that you beat and the teams that you lost to,

935
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: and how good they were and how bad they were.

936
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Steelers actually have the highest strength of victory in the

937
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: AFC playoffs.

938
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Speaker 3: So what exactly that means, folks, is you take all

939
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 3: their wins combined the winning percentage of the teams. Who's

940
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: the highest of all the playoff teams? Steelers are number one.

941
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: Now like losing the Browns doesn't help. I mean, you know,

942
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: well it doesn't hurt Jemmy. Sure that's because you don't

943
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 3: talk about the losses.

944
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right.

945
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: But they beat the Patriots, and they beat teams have

946
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: good records.

947
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Speaker 2: And most of their losses other than Cleveland and Cincinnati

948
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: are all the playoff teams, green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago, a

949
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of playoff teams in there.

950
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Speaker 3: Along those lines. You know, we haven't talked about enough

951
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: that Rob brings up every Monday on our show is

952
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: the last like five or six opponents are like the

953
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: every week we're like, oh, it's the best rushing team

954
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: in the league. And meanwhile, I just tweeted this out.

955
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 3: I mean, in the last month, the Steelers rushing defense

956
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: has been phenomenal and every week this week isn't one.

957
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: Of the outside from that Bills game the last two months,

958
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: they've been great.

959
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: Since then, right, yeah, boy, the Bears are the best

960
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: rushing attack in the league. Here even like before the Bills,

961
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: Jacob Taylor, I mean, these guys were at the height

962
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: of their power.

963
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Bears, the modern guy combination was like third highest rushing

964
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: yards in the league.

965
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: Chan was a mad yeah right. They faced some really

966
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: good rushing teams, including the Bills, but they stacked up

967
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: really well against them, except for Buffalo Henry. Henry lamar unbelievab.

968
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: Justin tweets and says love you guys, bringing up punch,

969
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: wolf Dale and Stan on the show yesterday. Keep up

970
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: the great work, enjoy those victory Monday donuts. They are

971
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: the best. And then here's a lot. We've gotten a

972
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: bunch of tweets and maybe later this week we'll get

973
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Speaker 2: to some more but angry Bike Lane tweets us and says,

974
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: should the lack of recent playoff success embarrass the entire organization?

975
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm being a little too pedantic, but it should

976
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: not embarrass the entire organization. Why should Arthur Smith be

977
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: embarrassed by that? When he when he just got here,

978
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and d k and Jalen Ramsey. A lot

979
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: of that roster and a lot of that coaching staff

980
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: has turned over. They haven't been part of all of them,

981
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Speaker 2: like Mike Tomlin.

982
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Speaker 3: You know, there are some pieces in place, have been

983
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: through a lot.

984
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Speaker 2: There's been a general manager change during that streak too,

985
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: So I understand the nature of the question. They are,

986
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: believe me, aware of it and want to change it.

987
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: You can embarrass a strong word.

988
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: The embarrassed is a strong word like act like.

989
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: They're the only team that hasn't won a Super Bowl

990
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: in the last ten years.

991
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and you know we I hate doing the

992
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: My parents used to yell at me for this all

993
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: the time. I'd come home with a C on a

994
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: physics test and my dad would be like, what the

995
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: hell man, and I'd be like, yeah, Well, Matt and

996
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: Tyler and Nathan all got d's yeah, and my dad's like,

997
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: I don't care. What did Sarah get? Oh she got

998
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: an A. You get an A like Sarah, like the

999
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: whole class.

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00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to compare.

1001
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: The Steelers to the Jets and the Raiders, and you

1002
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: know that's at the company, but no, the entire organization. No,

1003
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: because some of those people have only been there for

1004
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: a year or two or three and it's not there.

1005
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: As Mike Tom would say, it's not their baggage to carry.

1006
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: But I think there's a strongly wording question.

1007
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: I think they're all aware of it and desperate to check.

1008
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: I think the way that they operated this offseason was

1009
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: in big part, you don't go out and get Jalen

1010
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: Ramsey's and Aaron Rodgers without we really need to have

1011
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: some postseason successes this year.

1012
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: And I say it's all the time. They're thirty two different,

1013
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: very different organizations, much like thirty two different companies in

1014
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: any walk of life. IBM's on same as Apple blah

1015
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and I will tell you there are

1016
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 3: many more organizations. I can promise you are more comfortable

1017
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: with the lack of playoff success than the Steelers would

1018
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: be no doubt, no doubt, no no doubt about it.

1019
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: And that's a good way to wrap this thing up

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Speaker 2: for today. Thanks to everybody who tweeted. Like I said,

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00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: we've gotten a ton in the last forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: or so. We'll get to some more of those as

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Speaker 2: we roll along. Thanks to Chris Danski for joining us,

1024
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Speaker 2: Nathan for producing on the radio side, TV Tyler V

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Speaker 2: for keeping us handsome on the YouTube video side. For

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, I'm Wes Shuler. Take care, everybody. We will

1027
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Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know where to

1028
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Speaker 2: find us. It's on your twenty four to seven home

1029
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.