1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: RFK Junior had a spicy confirmation hearing today. We'll talk 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: about that tonight. Liz Wheeler joins us, Chip Roy joins us, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: what a show, And I'm right. RFK had a spicy 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing today. And I'm going to get to that 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: here in just a minute with the questions and the 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: screaming and the questioning and everything else. But let's just 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: do a little analogy first, because what we're seeing right 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: now on a macro level, and this goes beyond America 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: in Western civilization, what we're seeing right now is people 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: looking for a place to trust, looking for institutions to 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: trust because their old ones violated the trust. So do 12 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: a little analogy this way. I want you to picture 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: you live in a small town, small very remote town, 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: pretty small place, and in this town there is one 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: car dealership, only one, and it's owned by a local family, 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: and they really have sold all the cars to the 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: people in that town for the longest time. It's the 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: local one, it's owned by a family. It's good that 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: everyone can trust them. It's good to go. And one 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: hundred miles away there's a big city with all kinds 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: of dealerships, bad reputation, and so forever, decade after decade 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: after decade, your dad, his dad, everybody, everybody goes to 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: the same local car dealership. But something begins to happen 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: with the local dealership gets bought out, new family, next generation, 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: picky or whatever. They start ripping people off, start selling lemons, 26 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: not making it right, scamming people out of money, screwing 27 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: them on interest rates. Year after year after year, the 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: local car dealership starts doing people wrong and taking all 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: that trust that had been built up for decades and 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: just throwing it away. And so what will happen? Eventually, 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: it's inevitable. Eventually the people in that town, they'll start 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: making the drive one hundred miles away to the big city. 33 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: They're gonna go start start shopping somewhere else. And when 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: that happens, the people who work at the local dealership, 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: and maybe some who've been in the town a long time, 36 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, their dad bought a car there, they'll start 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: yelling about it. Why are you driving it? You can't 38 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: support the big city. Don't you realize that the scam 39 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: art it's over there in the big city. 40 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: Why are you doing it? 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand, But here's the truth. Once trust has 42 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: been violated, once credibility has been lost, people will move on. 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: It is inevitable. And you a you may love or 44 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: you may hate. Whatever they move on to. Who knows 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: where they'll land. Who knows where they're going to take 46 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: their car dealership money. Who knows where they're going to 47 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: take it. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it'll be a disaster. 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. But what I do know is the 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: reason they're taking it anywhere else, the reason they're making 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: the drive to the big city is because they were 51 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: screwed over time and time again by the local dealership. 52 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: And so their car money is now going elsewhere. And 53 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: if you're upset that the car money is going elsewhere, 54 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: well there's only one place to look if you're looking 55 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: to place blame, it's the local dealership. RFK Junior has 56 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: some ideas that are many mainstream, many way outside of 57 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: the mainstream. And we'll get to a lot of his 58 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: testimony to And I'm not saying I'm an RFK Junior 59 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: super fan or anything like that. I most definitely am not. 60 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I really don't really care about him at all, to 61 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: be honest with you, So I don't really care either way, 62 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not really I'm not really taking a stance 63 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of his stances. But what I am 64 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: saying my message to everybody right now is if the 65 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: appeal of RFK Junior confuses you, well, allow me to 66 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: walk you down memory lane. 67 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 3: You really should, in an indoor setting, a congregate setting, 68 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: be wearing masks. It's just the appropriate thing to do 69 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: to defect, to protect yourself and your family. 70 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: Our data from the CDCs today suggest you know that 71 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick. 72 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: Bibermectin is something more often used to deworm horses. 73 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 5: If we really do our part, stay at home, social distance, 74 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: then we can flatten our curve even below those projections. 75 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: But it really depends on all of us. 76 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents 77 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: and my pregnant daughter. I worry about that because then 78 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: it gives people the option to say, well, bars and 79 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: restaurants are open. Then I can have twenty people over 80 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: for Thanksgiving, and so I don't like it to be 81 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: any number. I like it to keep it to your 82 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: immediate household. 83 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: That was what one minute long montage and no, I'm 84 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to try to do an entire COVID revisionist thing. 85 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: But remember the talk we had. If you were watching 86 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm right back then, you remember it like it was yesterday. 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: The talk we had so many times, it was practically 88 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: a nightly show on this network, where I would tell 89 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: you you only have so much credibility. You're giving away 90 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: the last of it. You are sacrificing the remaining trusts 91 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: less and your institution, and once that trust is gone, 92 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: well this will go beyond COVID. I talked all the 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: time about what it meant for our nation as a whole, 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: for all these institutions to violate our trust. Let me 95 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: ask you something. Are you hesitant about RFK? Fine, that's fine. 96 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Are you critical? Totally fine? You have your opinion about 97 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: anybody you want. I don't really care if you are 98 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: critical about RFK, whack job, not all these other things 99 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: you want to say, Fine, whatever, maybe he is. What 100 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: were you saying about COVID, And don't act like it's 101 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: a separate issue, because it is most definitely not a 102 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: separate issue. How did you handle your management duties at 103 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: the local car dealership, Because if yesterday you were all 104 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: wear a mask at your eighteenth booster shot. Oh my gosh, 105 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: everyone should be fired. Ah close this calls. And now 106 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: today you're saying, this's OURFK guys a nut Why is 107 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: anybody listen to him? Well, you are why people are 108 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: listening to him. You if you were one of those 109 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: nutballs who destroyed the trust and the medical institutions in 110 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: this country, you created the environment for RFK Junior to 111 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: come here. Now let's talk about that trust. Because RFK 112 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Junior said a lot of things today, and of course 113 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: there was a lot of screaming and yelling from senators 114 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: and maybe have been in all those things. I get 115 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: all that. But the most important thing RFK Junior said 116 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: today during the confirmation hearing was when he sat down 117 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: and he did this. He discussed what it will take 118 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to earn back that trust. That's the most critical thing, 119 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: our institutions becoming trustworthy again and earning back that trust. 120 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: And when RFK sat down and talked about opening up 121 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: the books, that's how it's done. 122 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: I approach, ajhs I said before senator is radical transparency. 123 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 6: Democrats at licaus ought to be able to come in 124 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that 125 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 6: is owned by the American taxpayer. They shouldn't get redacted 126 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: to documents. Public health agencies should be transparent, and if 127 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 6: we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies, 128 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 6: we need transparency. 129 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 7: Will you commit not to fire anyone in the health 130 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 7: arena who currently works on protecting Americans from cyber attacks 131 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 7: in their healthcare file? 132 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 6: Will I will commit not firing anybody who's doing their job. 133 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 7: Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your 134 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 7: political agenda, or mister Trump's political. 135 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 6: Agenda, based upon my opinion. 136 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 7: So I guess that means a lot of the folks 137 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 7: who've had any type of views on vaccines. 138 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Will be out of work. For everything else that was 139 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: said today, that was the most important thing. It's what 140 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: you've heard me scream about on the television for how long. 141 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Trust is sometimes impossible to earn back. But it's very 142 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: very hard to earn it back. And there's only one 143 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: way you can earn it back, only one way, And 144 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: up to this point it's been the one thing the 145 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: system refuses to do. Open the books, transparency, no more lies, 146 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: no more you know, changing the subject, no more accusations 147 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: than no, no, no, no, no. Trust has been lost 148 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: in our institutions, including our medical institutions. If you want me, you, 149 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: the rest of us to trust again, we will not 150 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: be lectured into it. We will not be lied into it, 151 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: manipulated into it. You will open up your books government, 152 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: and you will show us the things you have done, 153 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: and then maybe we can start talking about earning trust 154 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: back again. I mean the pharmaceutical industry alone. Did you 155 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: hear this exchange with Elizabeth Warren today? 156 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 8: You're not going to take money from drug companies in 157 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 8: any way, shape or who me? 158 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 6: Yes, you, I'm having to commit to that. 159 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 9: Good. 160 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: That's what I figured. 161 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 8: I said, It's an easy question to start with, and 162 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 8: I think you're right on this. 163 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I haven't want to give me money. 164 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 8: By the way, will you also agree that you won't 165 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 8: take any compensation from any lawsuits against drug companies while 166 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 8: you are secretary and for four years afterwards. 167 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: Well, I'll certainly commit. 168 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 7: That. 169 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 6: Well, I'm secretary, but I do want to clarify something 170 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: because you're making me ease like I shall. 171 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 8: It's just a really simple question. You've taken in two 172 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 8: and a half million dollars. I want to know if 173 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 8: you will commit right now that not only will you 174 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 8: not go to work for drug companies, you won't go 175 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 8: to work suing the drug companies and taking your break 176 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 8: out of that while you're a secretary and for four 177 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 8: years after. 178 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 6: It's just I'll commit it to not taking any fees 179 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: from drug rug companies. 180 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 8: Well, I'm secretary, I'm I'm asking about fees from suing 181 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 8: drug companies. Will you agree not to do that? 182 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 6: You're asking me to not sue drug company. 183 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 8: No, I'm not going to agree with companies as much. 184 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Why would Elizabeth Warren choose that line of questioning, Well, 185 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: people have been digging into it today. It's pretty open. 186 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, campaign donations are open. You know how many 187 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: millions of dollars Elizabeth Warren has taken from the medical 188 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: institutions of this country to keep her campaign coffers full. See, 189 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: if you're upset about RFKG Junior, maybe you're happy about 190 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: RFKG Union. It doesn't really matter. But the important thing 191 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: is that you understand the appeal of somebody like RFK Junior. 192 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: Why is there that appeal? Why are people driving one 193 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,239 Speaker 1: hundred miles now to shop at a new car dealership. 194 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: It's because the local dealership took all those years of 195 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: trust and tossed it in the waste basket, and now 196 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: people are looking for something else. Human beings are designed, 197 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: We are created. We will put our trust somewhere. If 198 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: you violate it, we will take it back and we'll 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: drive to the big city. All that may have made 200 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, but I am right now speaking of putting 201 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: horrible things in your body. What do you take to 202 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: sleep when it's time to sleep? They're ever taken something 203 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: to sleep, and then you wake up the next morning 204 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and feel tired, still groggy, sleep like fifteen hours you 205 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: still can hardly wake up. It's probably not something you 206 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: should be taking. The reason I love dream powder from 207 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Beam isn't just because it's natural. It's because I wake 208 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: up in the morning and I feel good, rested every 209 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: single day. I don't feel gruggy and heavy and miserable. 210 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: It's a cup of hot chocolate with melatonin and things 211 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: like that in it. You want to sleep like a 212 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: baby without putting horrible things in your body. Up to 213 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: forty percent off at shopbeam dot com. Slash Jesse Kelly, 214 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: We'll be back. 215 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 6: I'll comply with all the ethical guys, that's not the 216 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 6: question you and I you have. 217 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: You're asking me. You're asking me not to serve a copy. 218 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 6: Yeah you are, That's exactly what you're doing. 219 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 8: Look, no one should be fooled here. I ters Robert 220 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 8: Kennedy will have the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine 221 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 8: manufacturing across our country. Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy 222 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 8: can keep cashing in. 223 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Senator. 224 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 6: I support vaccines. I support the childhood schedule. 225 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: It was a wild day to day. I can't wait 226 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: to hear what Liz has to say about all this nonsense. 227 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Joining me now, host of The Great Liz Wheelers Show 228 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: and noted health freak Liz Wheeler. Okay, Liz, I can't 229 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: wait to hear your thoughts. Oh yeah, By the way, 230 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: she wrote a great book called Hide Your Children, which 231 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: I would recommend my wife love that book. Liz, Okay, 232 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: what was going through your head today? I know you're 233 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: weird vegan type as you watched RFK Junior take on 234 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: these senators. 235 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 9: I did. 236 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: I have so much energy for the show because I 237 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: drank my sixty ounces of spinnetch shit for breakfast this morning, so. 238 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 9: I'm rare to go today. Jesse you are welcome, Elizabeth Warren. 239 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 9: Can't you just picture. 240 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: Elizabeth Warren though, as a four year old like kicking 241 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: and screaming in the grocery store, her arms and legs 242 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: on the floor, being like, no, I will not give 243 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: back the nickel I took, Daddy. 244 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 9: She's just she is. I think the most obnoxious. 245 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: Senator listen the entire US Senate. If this has not 246 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: been clear before, it was made crystal clear today, And 247 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: I think that might be the biggest takeaway from the hearing. 248 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: The United States Senate is the most intolerable place on earth. 249 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 9: It is filled to the brim. 250 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: With self serving, self obsessed, slimy, snobby, elitist senators who 251 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: craved the sound of their own voices. They had the 252 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: opportunity to ask Robert F. Kennedy Junior anything they wanted 253 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: in the world, anything, and the majority of them chose 254 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: to just listen to their own list of people that 255 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: they know and things that they care about in the 256 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: state that they're from. 257 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 9: It was so obnoxious and. 258 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: So crystal clear that every single person in that esteemed 259 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: body is. 260 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 9: Bought off by big Farmer. 261 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: They didn't give Bobby a chance to answer because they 262 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: don't want to know the answer. 263 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 9: They don't want to know the truth. 264 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: They don't want to know the reality of what's happened 265 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 5: to you and your children after vaccines, your autoimmune disorders, 266 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: your infertility struggles, your cancer, your. 267 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 9: Obesity, your diabetes. They don't care. They don't care about 268 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 9: you at all. 269 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 5: All they care is about filling their pockets with big 270 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: pharma and big food money. And that was the biggest 271 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: takeaway from the hearing today. 272 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Liz. First of all, we'll actually come back to the 273 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: vaccines and the health stuff. It amazes me that Democrats 274 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: still let Elizabeth Warren lead really on anything, because everyone 275 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: hates feminists, even other feminists hate feminists. The bug eye, 276 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: crew cut, nasty, loud woman is not appealing to anybody 277 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: on this planet. And yet they let this woman take 278 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: over these Senate hearings all the time. For a party 279 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: that has a branding problem, I'd call that a mistake. 280 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: Their part to me is well, first of all, ironic 281 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: that this was in the Senate Finance Committee. I have 282 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: no idea why the HH secretary was in the Senate 283 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 5: Finance Committee, but ironic because of all the big pharm 284 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 5: of money that's bought off these people. But it's weird 285 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: to me that the Democrats let Elizabeth Warren play such 286 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 5: a prominent role in their party because she has a 287 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 5: recipe in a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. What happened 288 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: to cultural appropriation? What happened about lying about being a minority? 289 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: How could you possibly let this white woman try to 290 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: steal your identity and your legacy and your victimhood, And 291 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: yet they just conveniently ignore that when it's Elizabeth Warren. 292 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I'd almost forgotten about Pow Wow Chow. Gosh. That freakin 293 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: murders me. Okay, back to back to the things RFK 294 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: said today and the things the senators said today. What 295 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: do we do about this confirmation process? Liz? I understand 296 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: it's constitutional, and I'm not all about kings and things 297 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: like that, but as you pointed out, it's just one 298 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: big fundraising effort where they get on television and they 299 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: scramble and scream and they try to get the emails 300 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: prepped up. I'd send fifty dollars to help Elizabeth Bourne. 301 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: And it's awful, and honestly, it makes the country look awful. 302 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: The whole thing kind of is gross, isn't it. 303 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 9: I don't think the process is the problem. I think 304 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 9: the people are the problem. It's not. 305 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: The idea of subjecting cabinet level nominees to questioning by 306 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: senators is a good idea. There's a there's a transparency 307 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: to that that I like. My problem is with these senators. 308 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: I mean, it's incumbent on you today to pick up 309 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 5: your phone and call your US senator. They're there to 310 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: represent you, and tell them, in no uncertain terms that 311 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: to vote yes on confirming RFK Junior to HHS Secretary, 312 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: and you make it very clear, you know, tell them 313 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: to walk down to the office door of Senator Joni 314 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: Ernst and ask. 315 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 9: Her how it felt. 316 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: Ask her how it felt after she threatened torpedo Pete Hagseth. 317 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 5: Ask her how it felt when the wrath of Mega 318 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: was unleashed on her and she felt for the first 319 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: time that that big pharm of money or in this sense, 320 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 5: in this case the military industrial complex money wasn't the 321 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 5: most powerful currency, that she was actually in danger of 322 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 5: losing her power, her seat in the US Senate. You 323 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 5: ask her how that felt, and then you, as a 324 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: United States Senator, you sit there and you think about 325 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: the fact that that's going to be you that what 326 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 5: President Trump did to the Colombian president is going to 327 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: be child's play compared to what's going to happen if 328 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 5: Republican senators defy President Trump. 329 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 9: On his choice of who to lead. 330 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 5: Ahhs, you will your political career. 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 9: Will be destroyed if you vote against. 332 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: It, and it's incumbent on us Jesse, you and me 333 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: and everybody watching the show. 334 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 9: To make that very clear to the. 335 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 5: United States Senate, because the only thing they care about 336 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: more than money is their own power and narcissism. 337 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 9: Hearing their own voices echoing in the US Senate. 338 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: One hundred percent true. As I've told you all many 339 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: times is they're not leaders. They're mostly gutless, coward losers, 340 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: and you have to bull whip them to get them 341 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to do what you want them to do. So never 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: going to have the guts to actually do any of 343 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: these things themselves. Okay, back to the opposition to RFK. 344 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: You covered on your show that Mike Pence is leading 345 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the charge again them what. 346 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I would call it leading 347 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: the charge, but he certainly considers himself to be a 348 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 5: prominent voice and his political group. That's what he does 349 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: now that he's been demoted from Vice president. He's leading 350 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: a group called Advancing American Freedom, and this group spent 351 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: six figures on an ad blitz, an ad campaign targeting 352 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 5: some of the Republican senators that are kind of squishy 353 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: on rfk's confirmation process, and Penn's is trying to convince 354 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: them to vote no. Ostensibly, Pence claims because RFK Junior 355 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: is pro abortion. Pence of course styles himself as being 356 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: pro life, although I don't know how pro life he 357 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: actually is, which is despicable. It's despicable for a couple 358 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: of reasons. First of all, Bobby Kennedy has promised to 359 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 5: do whatever Trump wants to do when it comes to 360 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: abortion and. 361 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 9: Issues of life. 362 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: When Bobby is HHS Secretary. Bobby's also on you can 363 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: see this. You know, he used to be very vocally 364 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 5: supportive of abortion through the ninth month of pregnancy, and 365 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 5: he's not anymore, just like he changed his opinion on Trump. 366 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: He used to despise Trump and then he realized that 367 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 5: Trump is one of the greatest leaders that are country 368 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: has ever known. His mind is changing. You know, we 369 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: should be gracious to people who are actually listening to 370 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 5: us who were persuading this is what we want people 371 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: to do. We should have a little trust in President 372 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 5: Trump that Bobby will be pro life at AHHS. But 373 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: also you have to remember when. 374 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 9: Mike Pence claims that. 375 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: That he cares about whether RFK Junior's pro life, that's 376 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: not what it's about. Mike Pence's group Advancing American Freedom 377 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 5: gets money from big pharma. They're just using Mike Pence 378 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 5: as a stooge. He's a big pharma shill just like 379 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 5: the rest of them, and he doesn't care about abortion. 380 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: He doesn't care about whether RFK is pro life. He's 381 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 5: just trying to wreck him because he doesn't like RFK 382 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 5: actually looking at vaccine safety because that would hinder the 383 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: profits of the vaccine manufacturers. 384 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: That sounds about right, all right. Finally, Liz Telsey gabber, Look, 385 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm worried about o RFK getting through. I'm worried about 386 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Tulsa getting through. I think you're right. I think maybe 387 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: these senators will be intimidated enough by us that they'll 388 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: feel obligated. But when I see Tom tilli is planting 389 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: damaging stories about Pete Heigsith and the Wall Street Journal 390 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: right before that nutless loser went and voted yes himself. 391 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: It tells me there's a lot of opposition in the 392 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: GOP Senate. 393 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, there is. 394 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know that these people, these even 395 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: Republican senators, are on our side. I think though, that 396 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: there's been this title shift in the conservative movement, meaning 397 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: you and I and those watching, because we realize that 398 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 5: we have a role to play in this administration that's 399 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 5: very different than any role we've ever played in government before. 400 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: That we are not only as important, but actually more 401 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: important than our representatives in Congress, and that they are 402 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: they are obligated to do. 403 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 9: What we want them to do. 404 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: And we have just embraced this role of being the 405 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 5: loud voice, the boss. 406 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 9: And that's what we are. We're the boss of these 407 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 9: United States senators. 408 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: Telling them, you will vote to drain the swamp, you 409 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 5: will vote to put Tulsea Gabbard in the position as 410 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 5: DNI because she was labeled as a terrorist, because she 411 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: dared to criticize the Intel community. 412 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 9: Make these senators fear. 413 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 5: For their political position, make them understand that they will 414 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: be relegan to nothingness in the worlds of politics if 415 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: they defy President Trump's choice for Tulsea Gabbard as DNI. 416 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 9: And let me tell you, Jesse, this works. 417 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: We've not only taken back control of media narrative on 418 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 5: important issues, debunking lies and propaganda coming from the mainstream 419 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: media aimed at Trump or Elon Musk, for example, you 420 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: know the Nazi salute, We took that down like that. 421 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 5: We've also taken control of our representatives in the United 422 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: States Congress. If we just stay vigilant and pick up 423 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: the phone and send that email and tag our senator 424 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: on X, it works. 425 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Listen to Liz Wheeler, go bully your local gop or today. Liz, 426 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate you. All Right, Cash Pttel, 427 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: that confirmation hearing is coming. We have a couple FBI 428 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: whistleblowers joining us in a moment before we get to them, 429 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: I want to switch up your cell phone service. No, 430 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a technician or something like that. It's just 431 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: we have to stop funding these companies who hate us. 432 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: We have to be purposeful with where we spend and 433 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: don't spend our money. We have to put our money 434 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: where our morals are. Believe me, you don't share morals 435 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: with at and TT Mobile or Verizon. These companies hate you, 436 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: They hate the things you care about, and we pay 437 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: them to do the damage they do. That's wild, especially 438 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: when we don't have to because pure Talk is there. 439 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: They're on the same five G network, so you're not 440 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: gonna be dropping calls. Oh my gosh, pure Talk's on 441 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: the same network. I pay half of what I used 442 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: to pay. Pure Talk loves this country. They're a CEO 443 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: fought for this country in the jungles of Vietnam. They 444 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: hire Americans. Pure Talk dot com slash jessetv go. Switch 445 00:24:46,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: takes five ten minutes. Switch, we'll be back. Well, it's 446 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing. I should say it, shouldn't say week. It's 447 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: been a couple of weeks of this now. But we 448 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: have a big one coming up, and that would be 449 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Cash Pattel because his job is going to be to 450 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: go clean out the cheka. Joining me now two men 451 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: who are much more familiar with what goes on inside 452 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: the Hoover building than I am. Brave whistleblowers Steve Friend 453 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and Garrett O'Boyle. Okay, first of all, Garrett Dick Durbin 454 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: came out and surprise, surprise, he's lying about something talking 455 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: about Cash, pattel breaking protocol on what is all this? 456 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 7: Well? 457 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 10: From my view, and I think from the legal view, Jesse, 458 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 10: it's just a lot of boloney, because five USC. Twenty 459 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 10: three oh three is the federal law that governs whistleblowing 460 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 10: in the FBI, and from a legal perspective, you have 461 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 10: to have a reasonable belief that there's a violation of 462 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 10: any law, rule, or regulation, and abuse of authority grossnessmanagement 463 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 10: a clear and significant danger to public health. Nowhere in 464 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 10: that law does it mention some anonymous allegation that protocol 465 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 10: was violated. So you know, if this is all they have, 466 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 10: it's really nothing at least from a legal perspective in 467 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 10: my view, and I think they're just surviving on fumes 468 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 10: at this point. 469 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: Steve, let's talk about the smear campaigns. I would expect 470 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: that there will be more, and they will be extra vicious, 471 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: given how instrumental the FBI has become in protecting the 472 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: worst people in this country. But Cash looks pretty clean, 473 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: and I mean so far, like Garrett just pointed out, 474 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: if this is the best they've got, I mean, how 475 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: do you stop him. 476 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 11: I don't think you can at this point, I mean, 477 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 11: his credentials are impeccable. It's everything that you'd want to 478 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 11: have from somebody at the helm of the checkout to 479 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 11: actually make the demolition that you and I have argued 480 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 11: for into a renovation. The guy comes from a background 481 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 11: not just as a prosecutor, but also as a defense attorney, 482 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 11: which is really significant. He has a healthy appreciation for 483 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 11: the pa that the federal government brings to bear against defendants. 484 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 11: Also worked into the intelligence space and the national security space, 485 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 11: so all these things bode well for his favorite. Plus, 486 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 11: I think that it is laughable that you have members 487 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 11: of the left who are going to stand in the 488 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 11: way against the first person of color going to take 489 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 11: over at the FBI. I think that any sort of 490 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 11: tact that they take with him will only make him 491 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 11: look more appealing, maybe even drying to make him look political. 492 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Well, look, at least. 493 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 11: He wears his politics on his sleeve, unlike Chris Fray 494 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 11: and James Comy. Chris Ray who ran the scheme that 495 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 11: the FBI had in order to influence the twenty twenty 496 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 11: president's election to censor the hundred bye laptop, then you 497 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 11: had James Comy oversaw a Crossfire Hurricane also had a 498 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 11: honeypot operation into Donald Trump's campaign in twenty sixteen. At 499 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 11: least we know where we stand with Cash, and that's 500 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 11: somebody who has a track record of actually going in 501 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 11: and exposing the corruption at the FBI. 502 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Honey pop, that's stuff you only see in movies. Garrett, 503 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: did you ever take part in any honeypot stuff? Although 504 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't think. 505 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 10: You would do that well, to be frank, no, sir, 506 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 10: I can't say that I did. And I think another 507 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 10: interesting aspect of this is you got CBS, I think 508 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 10: was the first outlet I saw who reported this quote 509 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 10: unquote whistleblower. And I find it interesting that that suddenly 510 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 10: they're interested in FBI whistleblowers. I've been suspended for just 511 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 10: a little over twenty nine months now. Steve and I 512 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 10: both got suspended at the same time. I'm still holding on. 513 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 10: I'm technically an FBI employee still, and yet CBS has 514 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 10: never reached out, never said, Hey, you're an FBI whistleblower. 515 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 10: What do you guys have to say? And so it 516 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 10: just is no surprise, but at the same time should 517 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 10: be should be shocking to people that suddenly the legacy 518 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 10: media is interested in whistleblowers and labeling them whistleblowers without 519 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 10: any type of legal vetting. And it's especially funny because 520 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 10: when Steve and I testified, goodness, this was May of 521 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 10: twenty twenty three, so quite a while ago. Now Wie 522 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 10: Wasserman Schultz came out and straight up said these are 523 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 10: not whistleblower. But again, if you go back to the 524 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 10: legal outline that I laid out from our federal statutes, 525 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 10: it's pretty clear that we had a reasonable belief of 526 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 10: an allegation of some type of wrongdoing like that. And 527 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 10: even in fairness, let's say this person isn't a whistleblower, Okay, 528 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 10: they still have a right under five UC seventy to 529 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 10: eleven to contact members of Congress. But to conflate the 530 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 10: issue of some alleged violation of a protocol issue is 531 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 10: vastly different than an allegation that a law is being broken. 532 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 10: And furthermore, this hostage fusion cell or whatever it was 533 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 10: called from the FBI that this person allegedly is whistleblowing from, 534 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 10: they may have different protocols in the CIA or the 535 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 10: State Department or DoD all facets of our government that's 536 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 10: involved in some type of hostage negotiation and release. 537 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: Steve, I'm a little bit frustrated, to put it mildly, 538 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: that Pam Bondi is still not been confirmed. Leave it 539 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: to the low TGOP to take the most important position 540 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: and kick it down the road to last. And I'm 541 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: concerned because I understand what's probably taking place inside the 542 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: walls of the DOJ and the FBI as we wait 543 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: for cash Hotel. These people are preparing, aren't they. 544 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 11: Steve hundred present they are, And it's interesting to use 545 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 11: the term inside the walls. Like earlier today I got 546 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 11: a photograph from the FBI Academy where they were painting 547 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 11: over on the walls what the core value that the 548 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 11: FBI reports to hold, where they put diversity ahead of 549 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 11: vigorous obedience to the Constitution and so in anticipation of 550 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 11: cash Hotel coming in. 551 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: And look, this is completely. 552 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 11: On the shoulders of the low TGP at this point 553 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 11: they hold the power to actually confirm these nominees, and 554 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 11: yet they've put them off. These hearings, frankly, are completely unnecessary. 555 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 11: All these questions could be submitted in writing, These meetings 556 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 11: could happen behind closed doors. But what it basically boils 557 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 11: down to is a bunch of politicians want to get 558 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 11: on TV, get their seven minutes, hope to get a 559 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 11: viral moment so that they can fundraise and maybe get 560 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 11: on cable news TV tonight so they can get their 561 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 11: own name idea up and maybe pick up a. 562 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Few extra ex followers. 563 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 11: It's completely unnecessary. We need to get these vital positions 564 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 11: filled because the Attorney General of the United States, the 565 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 11: director of the FBI, they are the positions that have 566 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 11: the ability to pull back an FBI, a weaponized DOJ, 567 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 11: back and brink and get it onto a correct course 568 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 11: that is objectively good and interested in upholding the rule 569 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 11: of law and protecting the constitution of the United States. 570 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Garrett Trump famously signed an executive order has been talking 571 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: about reinstating military people who got kicked out for the 572 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: backsman adid all that other stuff, and I applaud him 573 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: for that. Question to you, I guess, Steve, everybody have 574 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: you heard anything texts, emails, phone calls, rumors that you 575 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: and the fellas are going to get made whole in 576 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: some way. 577 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 10: I've had some conversations with my attorneys within the last 578 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 10: month or so that certainly it seems like a tide 579 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 10: is turning, and it seems like perhaps there will be 580 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 10: a little more interest in a much more rapid resolution 581 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 10: to this preposterous amount of time that I've been hanging 582 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 10: in limbo. But nothing concrete yet, and I'm okay with that. 583 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 10: I've gone this long, Steve Kyle Marcus, We've all spent 584 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 10: quite a quite a large amount of time just waiting 585 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 10: and trying to fight the good fight. I can make 586 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 10: it a little bit longer, and I'll give I'll give 587 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 10: the current administration a little bit of grace and a 588 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 10: little bit benefit of a doubt there, because they're still fighting. 589 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 10: They've been fighting subversions since election day, and they're going 590 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 10: to have to continue fighting it. Cash and Pam Bondi 591 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 10: and any of these other cabinet positions and appointees. They're 592 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 10: going to have to fight this type of subversion for 593 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 10: a long time. So I understand if they don't quite 594 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 10: get to whistle blowing or US whistleblowers right off the bat, 595 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 10: But I'm hopeful that twenty twenty five in a large 596 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 10: way will be a year of vindication for all of 597 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 10: the suspendables. 598 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm pulling for you guys, good luck fellas come back soon. 599 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Thank yes, all right, let's talk to Chip Roy. In fact, 600 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask Chip Roy about that what he's heard. 601 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Let's ask him about what's going on in DC next. Well, 602 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: spending hasn't stopped, hasn't slowed down. And I know we're 603 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: all excited right now about the way things are going. 604 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: We have mass deportations, confirmations are going through, at least 605 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: we hope confirmations we like. Well who things are changing. 606 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm happy, you're happy, everyone's happy. However, spending the country 607 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: into bankruptcy is still going and apparently the GOP intends 608 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: to keep it going. Joining me now to talk about 609 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: that great congressman from the state of Texas, my friend 610 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: Chip Roy. Ok, what the hell is going on? 611 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, Jesse, good to be on. 612 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 12: So, so here's the deal and put it in summary form. 613 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 12: The big tension right now among Republicans is what do 614 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 12: we do on the so called reconciliation product? Right, this 615 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 12: is the package that we have to do under the 616 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 12: Budget Control Act to reconcile tax policy and our spending 617 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 12: policy to achieve zero deficit. Now before you laugh, right, 618 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 12: that's what the law requires. So we're going through that process. 619 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 12: The upside is that you can do it with majority 620 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 12: vote in the House and the Senate. Remind you, Democrats 621 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 12: use this to jam through Obamacare, so we should and 622 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 12: can use this to truly have some transformative change respect 623 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 12: to spending, taxes, and some policies that are embedded in 624 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 12: those decisions, like healthcare. 625 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: So where are we. 626 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 12: There's been a debate about one bill versus two bill 627 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 12: that's kind of shiny. The reason that that debate has existed. 628 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 12: I favor two bills is because I want to move quickly. 629 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 12: I want to get the border funded. I want to 630 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 12: get defense funded properly, not through ways, but to give 631 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 12: heggs up when he needs to modernize the military. And 632 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 12: then I want to get cuts to the very upfront 633 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 12: immediate things like, for example, the student loan fiasco, the 634 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 12: electric vehicle mandates. And then I'm happy to give the 635 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 12: president an increase in the debt ceiling, probably bigger than 636 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 12: I would personally prefer, because I want to give him 637 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 12: the room to go get his job done. Then do 638 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 12: a second bill. I'm taxing and spending. There is a 639 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 12: big debate right now, and we're now focusing on one 640 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 12: big so called beautiful Bill. Well, I'm for a big, 641 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 12: beautiful bill if it actually cuts spending. So this morning, 642 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 12: I'm told that in Florida. I didn't go there. I 643 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 12: went to Texas to be with my family because my 644 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 12: family needed me to be home, and I knew what 645 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 12: would happen in Florida, which is more of the same. 646 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 12: I'm getting updates and I'm not going to announce them 647 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 12: yet because this was a private meeting. But they're what 648 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 12: you would expect, which is not really big cuts. They 649 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 12: want to issue what's called instructions to the Budget Committee 650 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 12: to have I'm going to generally characterize barely low numbers 651 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 12: of additional cuts to quote offset what we're going to 652 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 12: have to outlay. With respect to the tax policy, last 653 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 12: point don't mean a filibuster. Republicans have been taught for 654 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 12: forever if tax cuts pay for themselves, I broadly speaking 655 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 12: agree with the notion if you leave money in the 656 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 12: hands of the of the taxpayers, they will create wealth. 657 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 12: I don't want taxes. I'd like to zero out the 658 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 12: tax code. But if you're going to do that, then 659 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 12: you at least have to do math, because if we 660 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 12: keep printing money, then that's a tax on our future kids, 661 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 12: grain kids, and on our entire. 662 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: Ability to exist because of inflation. 663 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 12: So I'm demanding tax that with the tax cuts we 664 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 12: have spending cuts, we are getting resistance on that and 665 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 12: thus the conflict. 666 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: Okay, so break down a couple things for me, Chip, 667 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: and You're always welcome to philibuster on this show because 668 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: it explains things to us. One, why Florida? What's going 669 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: on in Florida? Two, when you're talking about cuts, the 670 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: things like electric vehicle mandates, you know, student loan ridiculousness 671 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: that seems like bread and butter, easy gop layups. You're 672 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: not asking them to take a hardcore pro life position 673 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. Why is there any resistance at all? Please? 674 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 12: Well, I'm not yet sure where the resistance will be 675 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 12: fully on student loans or ev mandates, but what I 676 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 12: do know is they couldn't agree with me and some 677 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 12: of my colleagues who all signed the letter saying we 678 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 12: would do those things, to do it quickly. 679 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: My view was give the president the border funding. 680 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 12: Now, let's get these people removed, let's get them repatriated, 681 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 12: let's support Tom Homan, and let's do it quickly. Because 682 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 12: the more time that goes on. They're gonna have a 683 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 12: breed of horribles. They're gonna show a picture of somebody 684 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 12: getting removed. It seems sympathetic, and then we're gonna have 685 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 12: a tough time getting that money. But what's really going 686 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 12: on down in Florida is it's a Republican retreat. 687 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: That's fine. I don't know why we have to go. 688 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 12: Down to a resort in Florida to do that, but fine, 689 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 12: they go to resort, go do that. But I knew 690 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 12: what was going to happen, so I just made a 691 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 12: choice to go be in Texas. But I'm in constant 692 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 12: communication with them. And what's happening right now is they're 693 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 12: putting forward cuts that are pretty small, but yet the 694 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 12: tax amount is pretty significant. 695 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 2: So what does that mean right now? 696 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 12: If you look at outside entity's the Congressional Budget Office, 697 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 12: all these other things, and I don't trust any one 698 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 12: of them, per se, they have a cost to the 699 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 12: tax cut. Right Well, let's take child tax credit, Jesse. 700 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 12: Nobody will tell me, and I'm asking everybody in the 701 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 12: in the House representative, will you tell the world that 702 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 12: child tax credits will pay for themselves through economic growth? 703 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 12: The answer to that is no, is an eight hundred 704 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 12: billion dollar ten year deduction or parents for their kids. 705 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 12: That might be great policy Jesse, but it's not economic productivity. 706 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 12: So you can't go, on the other hand, say, oh, 707 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 12: we don't need to go cut spending to pay for that. 708 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: I believe you do. 709 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 12: So that's all I'm saying. Can we just do math 710 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 12: and we teach our kids to do math. Just put 711 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 12: up a big whiteboard. Let's just put up all of 712 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 12: the taxes on one side, Let's put up all of 713 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 12: the spending on the other side, and let's balance that. 714 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking. 715 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: Okay, So can you merge these worlds for me? Chip, 716 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: because I hear the Trump administration. Trump is trying to 717 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: make these big bull moves like cutting the income tax, 718 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: which obviously is music to my ears, music to everybody's ears, 719 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: I suppose. But we're talking about cutting income taxes. Great, 720 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: sounds good, but they don't want to cut any spending 721 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: in the house. So one of those two things is 722 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: never going to happen. Right. 723 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: Well, so this is the actual big question. 724 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 12: So there's a lot of pressure, for good reason, to 725 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 12: make the tax cuts that were put in place in 726 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 12: twenty seventeen permanent. The corporate rates are already permanent. Okay, 727 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 12: let's be very clear. Those we're the big economic engine 728 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 12: in twenty seventeen. The other rates are the ones expiring, 729 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 12: the standard deduction, the individual rates, the child tax credits, 730 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 12: et cetera. So everybody wants to keep their lower taxes. 731 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 12: They don't want the taxes to go up next December. 732 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 12: I agree. I shared that view. I'm a taxpayer. I'd 733 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 12: like to zero out my tax But are we going 734 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 12: to get spending cuts? 735 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: The answer is no if some of. 736 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 12: Us don't force the question when tied to the tax cuts, 737 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 12: because the pressure for tax cuts is real high, and 738 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 12: I'm saying, guys, I can't agree to give you your tax 739 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 12: cuts and then expect that tomorrow you're going to deliver 740 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 12: for me the spending cut, because they will never do it. 741 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 2: So that's the fight we're having right now. 742 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: All right, tell me about China owning farmland here, Chip, 743 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: before I let you go. 744 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 12: Yes, I introduced the bill four years ago to ban 745 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 12: Chinese ownership of any land. 746 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: It's particularly just when it's farm land. But I don't 747 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: think it should just be a farm land that we prohibit. 748 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: I think it should be all land. Frankly, I don't 749 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 2: think the chi Coom should own any of our significant assets. 750 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 12: No meatpacking plants, production facilities, certainly not land. We would 751 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 12: never let Nazi Germany own land in America in nineteen 752 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 12: thirty nine or nineteen forty four or after the war, 753 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 12: so I think we should restrict it. Frankly, I might 754 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 12: even go further and introduce the bullinesses, why does any 755 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 12: foreign national own any real estate or land in this country. 756 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 12: I understand that you want capital to flow into our nation, 757 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 12: but I don't think I want borders owning dirts, even 758 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 12: if they're supposedly our friends, but certainly not the chi COOM. 759 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: So that's what my bill would do. 760 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 12: I've reintroduced it now for the think third Congress, and 761 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 12: I think we need to act on it. 762 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't think this is that hard. 763 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 12: It's our national security interest, and it's frankly, I think 764 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 12: sensible policy. 765 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: I agree Congressman, as always, thank you, come back soon, 766 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: Please keep fighting. All right, we have a special tomorrow 767 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: speaking of the MS on the Chicoms China. What's going 768 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: on over there? What are we doing about it? You're 769 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna want to touch that anyway before we get to 770 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: that we have light in the mood. Next all it 771 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: is time to lighten the mood. And you know now 772 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: we do things on the show lighten the mood after 773 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: all the heavy news and immigration and spending and confirmation hearings. 774 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: Lighten the mood is supposed to lift you up. You 775 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: are supposed to rise. That's what Chuck Humber wants. 776 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 13: To People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused 777 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 13: in a very very long time in terms of going 778 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 13: trying to get this done. So yes, I think democracy 779 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 13: will have an effect and we are going to keep 780 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 13: at it. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so 781 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 13: aroused in a very very long time in terms of 782 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 13: going right to have this done. So yes, I think 783 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 13: democracy will have an effect and we are going to 784 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 13: keep out 785 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: Lacedemo