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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the Right drama, Queen's Girl Fashion.

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Speaker 1: But you're tough, girl. You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama drawn MC, Queen's Drama, Queens. Hey, Everybody,

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Speaker 1: Season four, Episode eight, Nothing left to say but goodbye.

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Speaker 1: I really liked this episode, Okay, didn't never twenty second

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Speaker 1: two thousand six, Derek, the real Derek convinces Peyton to

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Speaker 1: take a chance with Lucas at the same time that

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Speaker 1: Brook approaches him about getting back together. Bad timing. Dante's

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Speaker 1: latest demand leads Nathan to seek help from an unlikely source.

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Speaker 1: Isn't an unlikely source, It's he most likely and Dan.

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Speaker 1: When Rachel learns of a failing grade, she turns to

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Speaker 1: Haley for tutoring, and Nathan is named m v P

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Speaker 1: m v P of the Ravens at the annual sports banquet,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that he's been shaving points.

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Speaker 1: Dunt Janice directed this one. I liked her a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I liked that this was like a Thanksgiving episode and

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Speaker 1: it was the big banquet, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: way to November twenty two. It's like a way to

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Speaker 1: do a holiday without doing a holiday. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: all together at dinner and it's awkward, like everyone else's holiday.

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Speaker 1: That's so Funday. Yeah, yeah, I dug it. I mean

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Speaker 1: here's my question though. The episode starts off with Nathan

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Speaker 1: at the river Court, and we didn't talk about this

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Speaker 1: for the two older men in the community cornered him,

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Speaker 1: Like I'd be hold up. I guess he thought it

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Speaker 1: was over because he believed them. It's a little gullible. Well,

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Speaker 1: have never watched The Godfather, have you, young man? This

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Speaker 1: kid needed to hide out lay low until like everything's over. Instead,

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Speaker 1: he's just willy nilly all by himself down dribbling his

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Speaker 1: wealthy white privilege around because his dad has always bailed

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Speaker 1: He Yeah, he has no concept. Although I do love

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Speaker 1: that he went to Dan for help in this, I

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Speaker 1: don't love the way Dan handled it. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for him to like muscle up and

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Speaker 1: really do something destardly to the dastardly people. Yeah, one time.

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Speaker 1: At that time, Dan's not corrupt. I'm like, listen, if

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Speaker 1: we know anything about Dan Scott or like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We've read the news ever in the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: the like crooked cops on the p D for Mr

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Speaker 1: the one time Dan's not willing to be completely inappropriate

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Speaker 1: is perhaps the one time it's warranted so his kid

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Speaker 1: doesn't get his knees broken. But okay, But so this

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Speaker 1: is the back story that I found sweet resting because

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Speaker 1: Did they play together? Did they play against each other?

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Speaker 1: Because ps the minute Nathan says you know, Dan asks

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Speaker 1: if there had been backstory rather than oh, everybody knows

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Speaker 1: the local mafia guys like, which is ridiculous, who are

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Speaker 1: But all his mother cared about was like, I'm preserving

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Speaker 1: you're saying, my job, my job is to protect you. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And you know what, what I'm realizing is really interesting

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Speaker 1: about the message, Like, what's the message that's being set

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Speaker 1: why doesn't Nathan just pick up the phone and be like,

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Speaker 1: because it's just you just keep creating the lies. Snowball

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Speaker 1: a woman saying to a younger woman, I see what

426
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: you're doing. You're pretty and you rely on your looks.

427
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: And it reeked of like sexist, ick because it was

428
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: our boss saying that to Danille, not a teacher saying

429
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: it to Rachel. And it's so gross. It's grows when

430
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: someone thinks they're being clever and you're like, uh, we

431
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: all know what you're doing, dork, we all see you.

432
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: But I thought we had also established earlier in Rachel's

433
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: storyline that she was like, you know, secretly brilliant because

434
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: she answered all sorts of hard questions and knew, like

435
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: all these answers in some class. That's right, We've already

436
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: established that she's like super smart. And she does say

437
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: to Haley, you tutor all these people. I've seen what

438
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: you do for them. I'm actually smart. I've just missed

439
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: a lot of class. So they they did try, but

440
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: not that hard, not that hard. It was just it

441
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: was just lost in in the personal attacks, and we

442
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: were at that stage in our show where so much

443
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: of what was happening on screen was needling at people personally. Yeah,

444
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and now Mouth's rejecting her. Now Mouth the character based

445
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: on our boss, I don't want you anymore. I've got

446
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: somebody new. So what do you guys think about the

447
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: speech everybody kept giving Haley about giving everyone's second chances,

448
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: because that was all about Rachel like trying to get

449
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: to I was disappointed that Haley had nothing to do

450
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: this episode. Well that's I don't have anything to do

451
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: for the next because she's becoming a mother and that's

452
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: her only identity. You're like hair right now, I'm all

453
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: for it. But you know what I will say is

454
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: because there's such a beautiful relationship established that you and

455
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: James have built for Haley and Nathan. It's so fun

456
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: to watch you guys together, even if technically there's not

457
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on. There's so much happening around you

458
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: that there's a bit of a respite as an audience

459
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: member when I get to see the people I love

460
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: to watch being in love, just being good to each

461
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: It's not important, it's totally important. In a story like That's,

462
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: where you've got so many weaving storylines, so much drama,

463
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you've got to have at least one stable place, even

464
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: if the stable place changes into into different storylines, and

465
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: it has to otherwise it gets boring. But I just

466
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: I guess as your friend, I just want to say,

467
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: even when you feel like you don't have a lot

468
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: to do, you're so fun to watch. You're like the

469
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: safe thing we want our woo be. You know who else?

470
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: You know who else is really becoming a highlight in

471
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: that space, And I wish we'd gotten to hold onto

472
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: him longer. Is Earnest? Yeah, real, Derek, you know they

473
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: did that thing. I know we talked about it a bit,

474
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: and we can, you know, we can get into it.

475
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: They made him kind of the cliche of the military

476
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: guy who's always yelling at you. And I think when

477
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: they when they got that out of their systems, and

478
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: he just was able to be present with you and

479
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: wasn't written to yell, but was able to be firm

480
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: and challenging to you know, to say to you. I

481
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: wrote it down that that he says, take a risk today.

482
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: He pushes you lovingly. And it's really nice in you know,

483
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Larry's absence. It's so nice to see Peyton have a

484
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: supportive male figure in her life like this, this older

485
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: brother figure. It's just really really fun to watch watching

486
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: the bedroom get painted, you know, the advent of red

487
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: bedroom records. It's all starting. And uh, you guys had

488
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: a I don't remember exactly what the dialogue was, but

489
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: your chemistry is just so good and I was I

490
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: need more of this. I need more of the two

491
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: of these guys interacting. Guys, Guys, you want it today?

492
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Do you want it today? Don't want it today? More

493
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: and more and more. Earnest, I'm really excited about this reunion.

494
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I have not gotten to see Ernest since he left

495
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: the show. So guys, we have him today. Let's breathe

496
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: in you guys, my brother's here. They're well, how do you?

497
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you look exactly the same. I'm going

498
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: to you, I've aged twenty years and you look exactly

499
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: the same. And that's not fair. Um. We've been watching

500
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: you for like weeks now, which sounds like a very

501
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: creepy way to start this off, but watching like the

502
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: introduction of real Derek and then all the military stuff

503
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: which we can we can get into. Um, I'm really

504
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: glad that you were able to come on for this

505
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: episode because this was a lovely you know, button for

506
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: your character. Um, you know, seeing you deploy, I was

507
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: really sad. We've just been watching you and Hillary and

508
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: your whole storyline and and we've really just been like

509
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: fawning over you. So we're so happy you're here. Thank you,

510
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you guys enjoyed my performance, and I'm

511
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: so happy about that. We wish we had you for

512
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: so much longer. We're watching it back, you know, because

513
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Sophia just said, we don't remember a lot of it.

514
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: We just didn't have time to watch the show while

515
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: we were filming it, so we missed a lot of

516
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: your performance. You know, we saw bits and pieces, But

517
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: it's so nice to watch it back now and also

518
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: sad to realize we only got you for four or

519
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: five episodes. We needed more. I felt really protected with

520
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: you being there. You know. We had just done the

521
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: storyline where like my characters assaulted and there was also

522
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: all this like wonky stuff going on behind the scenes,

523
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: and you came in as such like a grounded, mature energy,

524
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: and I was just like, why, why are you taking

525
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: this person away from me? Like they took Ellie away

526
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: from me, they took you away from me. I was

527
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: just like, what people always leave? God, people always leave? What? Um?

528
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: What was your experience with the show before you got cast?

529
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Did you have any idea what One Tree Hill was?

530
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Honestly no, because I was in college, so like literally college,

531
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I watching no TV. And then like I just yeah,

532
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I just got a call and they said, hey, down

533
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: to Wilmington's And it was just so amazing because I'm

534
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: actually from Wilmington's. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I remember that.

535
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten, like so much of my family is from

536
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Wilmington's and I was. I had had an amazing time

537
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: there because my dad, not my dad, my uncle loaned

538
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: me his car and it was just amazing. It was great.

539
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I grew up. I grew up in Wilmington.

540
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I was there for like the first few years until

541
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: about three. Yeah, and then I go there every year

542
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: because my family is there and we go to Rightful

543
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: Beach to the we have a beach house there. Yeah.

544
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, So you're still always there. I'm

545
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: still always there. And then in mind from middle school,

546
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Joe Houser, he runs a company in Wilmington. So it's

547
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: just like it's just funny coincidence. So when you go

548
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: down there, do people recognize you? Are they like, oh

549
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: my god, it's brother Derek. Oh of course, of course.

550
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone in Hound knew you guys. I

551
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: mean even when we were shooting, you know, just like

552
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: going out, people would just that's all they would talk about.

553
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: It was it was very cool. I have a very

554
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: strong sense memory of us being at level five. Do

555
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: you remember real Marines on the rooftop? We had the

556
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: fake Marines with us, and it was like there was

557
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: like this energy of like, oh, you guys are playing

558
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: military on TV. Well we're military in real life and

559
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: we'll kick your ass. And I just remember being like

560
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: oh no, they will. Yeah. I definitely felt a lot

561
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: of pressure. Just I mean, my my family were from

562
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: the military. I had my father was in the Air Force,

563
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: my uncle was in the Air Force. So everyone was

564
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: like just picking me apart after the episode. Really yeah,

565
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: just my walk wasn't completely military. You know, We're saying

566
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: good bye and then I'm like walking away, you know. Yeah,

567
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: the fact that, uh, in the last episode, Lucas and

568
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Peyton both just came out into the training center and

569
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: just like found you, like rolled up in a hummer

570
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: walking around base. Yeah, just like got right in, no problem.

571
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: We lost our minds. We were like, on no planet

572
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: would someone in fatigue just pick up a teenage boy

573
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: and drive him into the middle of a training exercise.

574
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: We were losing it. But but having having so many

575
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: folks in your family come from military backgrounds, did you

576
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: ask for advice when you got the part of Derek

577
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: or were you like, I got this, I know what

578
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: this is, Like, how did you prepare for it? I

579
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: had such little time to prepare. I was actually on

580
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: vacation in Europe when I found out that I was

581
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: going to do the show, and I was like, Okay,

582
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna come to Wilmington everything, and I think I

583
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe had very little time to get down there and

584
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: get started, so I just I mostly had to just

585
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: go off of what I knew from my dad, from

586
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: just family members. But the hardest part was just you know,

587
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, erect in this uni.

588
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: It was kind of tight in there. But but I

589
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: remember they made a really big deal out of that.

590
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: There was like a technical advisor to make sure that

591
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: the belt was appropriate, and so much pressure was put

592
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: on you to like make it right, you know. It

593
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: was it was a mad dash for sure. And then

594
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I remember them the technical guy with the punching yes yeah, um,

595
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and I and I just I was just so excited

596
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: and I was ready to jump in. So whatever it was,

597
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: I was pretty much prepared to just you know, just

598
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: go with the flow, you know. Um. We talked a

599
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: lot about how like you were directed to be really

600
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: really angry and to be like really aggressive in the

601
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: first couple of episodes where we see Derek, the first

602
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: version of brother Derek we had was definitely like get

603
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: your together, Pat, and you're being a baby, you know,

604
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: and was like super aggressive. Was that eat your experience

605
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: with military and your family just being like heightened like that,

606
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: or was that something that you were directed to do

607
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: on our show because you're so good at like the softer,

608
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: more intimate stuff. I think, I mean, I feel like

609
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: that's a natural impulse for me. Sometimes with emotional I

610
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: feel like I high lean on anger sometimes maybe too much,

611
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, but um, and I think I was

612
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: aware that there would be a shift, so I wanted

613
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: to go in initially with a little bit more oomph

614
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: and then kind of shift to the more sensitive side.

615
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know, m hm. That's smart to be

616
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: able to give an arc too, so you don't just

617
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: come in at the same at the same tone, because

618
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: we wanted to see you sort of get wooed into

619
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: this experience and then how it be that much harder

620
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to leave? Absolutely? Absolutely, And I really felt the ending

621
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: to like, I mean, even just watching it back so much.

622
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: There's so much heart in One Street Hill, which I

623
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: really appreciate, And even the way the show was shot,

624
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I feel like they just aren't them any shows that

625
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: you see now, Yeah, that really capture that young adult sweetness,

626
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: that young adult Um. I don't want to use the

627
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: word angst, but you mean Yeah, Well, I think what

628
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: what was interesting for us was realizing that our show

629
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: gave a lot of people permission to be vulnerable anyways

630
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: that didn't require you know, fantasy or and again no

631
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: shade to the genres we love, but we didn't need vampires.

632
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: We didn't need you know, billionaire parents with private jets.

633
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: We didn't need it. Like, it didn't have to be

634
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: so heightened. It could just be honest. And I think,

635
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, you tapped into that in such a way

636
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: it felt natural, you know, to your point Derek coming in,

637
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, written the characters written to be reluctant to

638
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: say I didn't ask for a sister, you know, I

639
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for this, and that sort of energy,

640
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: combined with this military background, it's so interesting to hear

641
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: you say that you wanted to really bring it in

642
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: the beginning because it's it's a mask, right, It's a

643
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: defense mechanism for his terability. So much from just my

644
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: family members, just that there's a there's a way that

645
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: you have to protect your emotions in order to do

646
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: the job that you have to do. And that's I

647
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: think something that I very much felt from from my father.

648
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring to this because you know, working

649
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: with Hillary, you were just so charming and you're so sweet.

650
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: So it was just I was really happy to have family.

651
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: I was so I've been so alone earnest. But you

652
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: and I both come from military families, and so I

653
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: think we very quickly bonded over that because there was

654
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: this desire to portray the military in a loving way.

655
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: You know, we were at war at the time. I

656
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: had friends in Iraq. I think you also had friends

657
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: that were deployed or family members that were that we're

658
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: out um, and you know that that was important to

659
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: us that like we show the honor of our men

660
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: and women, you know, And and we wanted the character

661
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: of Derek to kind of embody that and be like, look,

662
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: this is someone that deals with hard stuff and is

663
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: doing it in a noble way. And he may seem

664
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: like a hard ass, but he's actually like parked outside

665
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: of Peyton's house making sure that no one breaks in

666
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: while she's asleep. Yeah, and that that ark for you

667
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: and the way that you played it, bringing that mask

668
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: down when you see him out there and he tells

669
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: Lucas that he's staying, but she doesn't need to know

670
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: because he's trying to give her that confidence back. And

671
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: then this episode, the reward of seeing you tube together

672
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: out you know, socially in a in a happier environment,

673
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: and watching you be supportive and remind her that she's

674
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: a strong person and that she can do these things.

675
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: It's it's just such a refreshing energy, um, in the

676
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: midst of our show. Yeah, and in such a simple message,

677
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: even the no fear. I just really appreciated that. Just

678
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: hearing that, UM, I think that that's something that it's

679
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: so simple. It's such a simple statement. But I think

680
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: that everyone struggles with you, you know, and UM, I

681
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know, that just really resonated with me. I love it.

682
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: In this episode, you said to Peyton, go take the risk. Um.

683
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I tell my daughter that I used to

684
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: tell her a lot more. I guess I don't know.

685
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: I got out of practice that I used to tell

686
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: her all the time on her way to school. You've

687
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: got to make at least two mistakes today. Oh that's

688
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: a great, you know memo, because exactly exactly how else

689
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: are you gonna learn if you don't and learn that

690
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: and you do make mistakes, it's usually okay, Like if

691
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: everybody's okay. In the end, like things eventually get cleaned up,

692
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: so you gotta try episode because she actually gets rejected,

693
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: the horrible thing happens, You make the mistakes, you give

694
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: it to try, and then the bad thing happens and

695
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: it's still okay. That was my favorite part is the

696
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: look on your face, Ernest, when Peyton comes and like

697
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: has to tell you, like, yeah, I did it. Uh

698
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: it didn't go good. It went bad, and like that

699
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: lock on your face of like, oh, come out and

700
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: just wait. It worse for this kid, Like how do

701
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I got to stay and go to the banquet with

702
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: her now? But I want to go. I think your advice,

703
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, take the risk is part of what pushes

704
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Peyton to finally say it in the end, you know,

705
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: when Lucas says, Brooke and I have realized it's over,

706
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: like it's really over, and then you you unload and

707
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: you say how you've been feeling. It's like you're still

708
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: taking his advice. Actually, I love that. I felt really

709
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: comfortable with you from the jump because you were a

710
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: n y U guy and I had just worked with

711
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Brian Greenberg who was also an n y U guy,

712
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: and like Strangely enough, you guys had very similar set energy,

713
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: like I can see that, yeah, and so I didn't

714
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I have for the whole rest of my career, always

715
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: wondered if that was like an n y U thing,

716
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: just that like grounded nous and focus. You know, you

717
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: two were the most prominent people had worked with. Yeah,

718
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: there's definitely like a tunnel vision. I was thinking about

719
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: this for this, but just um that when I'm on set,

720
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: everything goes so freaking quick for me, and I just

721
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: feel like, well, where did the time go? And I

722
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: think it's like I have a d D. But like

723
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: the only time I have tunnel jian is when I'm acting,

724
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: you know. But I think that there's something about n

725
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: Yu that kind of garners that. You know, we spend

726
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of time, like thirty forty minutes before we

727
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: even enter a room into a scene, so you spend

728
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: a lot of time trying to, I guess, work yourself

729
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: into a particular state, you know, for the circumstances. For sure, Um,

730
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: it's hard, it's hard, but if things are just moving, moving, moving,

731
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: it's just like you're kind of stuck in a machine,

732
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: especially coming onto a show like ours, where it was

733
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: such a well oiled machine, and we all have our

734
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: relationships set and everything was kind of you. You're walking

735
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: into something that's been in motion for a very long time.

736
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there's definitely a lot of payoffs still.

737
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: But to be able to just come in solid and

738
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: centered and comfortable with who you are and who you

739
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: saw this character as and just give that it was

740
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: such a generous. It's such a generous thing to do

741
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: as an act or to not get caught up in

742
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: the hype or the chaos or the confusion or the

743
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: intimidation and any of that stuff, but just to just

744
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: open up your heart and be there in spite of

745
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: all these things whirling around you. And you definitely had

746
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: that presence. I didn't work with you more than I

747
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: think that one scene, that banquet scene, but I remember

748
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: that about you. What I remember was all of you

749
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: were so close. It was just and and it's so

750
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: funny because I didn't get that, I got the vibe.

751
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with eight. I'm sorry, Hillary, because because

752
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I immediately I did feel comfortable around you, but then

753
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: when I met all the rest of you, I still

754
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: just felt completely comfortable because you guys are so comfortable

755
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: with each other, and it really comes across. Even when

756
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: I watched it today, Um, it was just obvious that

757
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: you guys, we're so close and loved each other and

758
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: we're having so much fun, and um it made the

759
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: episode more enjoyable. I really actually enjoyed watching it this time.

760
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: It was I mean, I get all weird about seeing myself,

761
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Well, yeah, what was the

762
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: reaction from all of your buddies though? When you're like, hey,

763
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm on one tree hill. You know, remember that time

764
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to be doing like cool edgy, like everyone

765
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: wanted to be playing a heroin addict back during two

766
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: thousand six. Oh yeah, I mean that's I mean that

767
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: was like I mean, coming out of n y U,

768
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: I was like edgy, Yes, But even watching this again,

769
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like, there's so much about this

770
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: show that's so soft, and I just really enjoyed the

771
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: pace of the show as well. I think that it

772
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: would be hard to make a young adult show like

773
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: this now, just because I think that they would. They

774
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: would try to make everything punchy, they would try to

775
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: sensationalize things, and I really felt the softness, the sweetness,

776
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: the room, a building of relationship. You can't duplicate it,

777
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: you can't recreate that. I feel like it was a

778
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: time capsule, a time capsule of TV, because I think

779
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: that you can look at the show and you could,

780
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, pick apart the hairstyles and the clothes and

781
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: things of that era. But I think that there was

782
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: there was something else happening that I feel like just

783
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: doesn't no longer exist in television. You know, even when

784
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: you watch Netflix, I feel like you can immediately tell

785
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: a Netflix show even if you didn't know what it was.

786
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: You know, Um, what what were the shows you watched

787
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: growing up? Like? What were the shows when you were

788
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: in high school and made you feel safe? Martin Signo,

789
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: M Boy Meets World. Were you pumped to see Leon

790
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Norris on our set? Yes? Yes? Um dock tails? Oh

791
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: so good? What else did you think about it? Having

792
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: not watched it for you know, fifteen years? What jumped out?

793
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: How thin everybody was, any all of you? I just

794
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's so funny. I think every show I've

795
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: shot I just felt fat, you know, and then you know,

796
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: you go back to see an episode you're like, oh,

797
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: I was clearly out of my mind. You know what

798
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean. And I think that that's just like an

799
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: actor thing that happens. But yeah, that was one of

800
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: you're like hot older brother energy, like the mill you

801
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: run on that base, like barking orders at all the

802
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: other dudes. Like it was such macho energy. I don't

803
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: know how you see it as anything other than like, yeah,

804
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm awesome, check this out. Okay. I mean you know,

805
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, as an actor, I think that no matter

806
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: how good you do, you still feel like, oh I

807
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: could have done it better. I could have done this. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

808
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: nobody tells you when you decide you love storytelling that

809
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: what you're really signing up for is a lifetime of

810
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: beating yourself up. But I think what's interesting is in this,

811
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: in this stage of our lives, we're all talking about it,

812
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh cool, you two all right, Okay,

813
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm not by myself. This is nice. We're all a

814
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: little crazy together. I appreciate gen z and and this

815
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: whole new self help arab era. I've learned so much

816
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: about every mental disorder. Oh my god. In the same way,

817
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: I just know that that I have a d h D.

818
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: I was like, how you I've literally went through my

819
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: whole life not knowing this. Do you know how many

820
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: problems I could have solved in my in my life,

821
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: how much more self confidence I would have had? How

822
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: just so much that I'm like, I cannot believe I

823
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: lost so much time yep, not knowing that this was

824
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: my problem. I want you to do with a thirty

825
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: second drawing for Drama Queens so we can post it

826
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: on our Instagram. Ernest, Yeah, yes, can I make a request? Sure? Yeah,

827
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: that's what No. I want. I want you to make

828
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: us a piece of art in thirty seconds to one.

829
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm seriously, I'm going to do this literally the minute

830
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: we and I'm going I'm gonna send it to you

831
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: guys immediately. What's going on with you? Dude? Did you

832
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm cyberstalking you? You know? Please come on? Yeah? Um,

833
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just had a baby. Girl. She's

834
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: so graduated, she's too much, but she's but she is

835
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: she is so beautiful. We we truly have been like

836
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: scrolling through your Instagram and we're like, oh my god,

837
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: look at this baby. Yeah, you're done for McKim didn't Payton,

838
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Oh my god. I have the best idea ever. Okay, Okay, Ernest,

839
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: you do art, okay, and I want you to explain

840
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: more of your art thing. But you, guys, I saw

841
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: in Star News today because I still get the newspaper

842
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: back in Wilmington's that they are commissioning a mural in

843
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: downtown Wilmington's in that BISU Theater alleyway, and they're like,

844
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: we want people to submit their designs for this big

845
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: mural that's gonna get painted in town because there's no

846
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: murals in in downtown Wilmington's and they want that. And

847
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Speaker 1: so here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking big brother Derek

848
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Speaker 1: is the right person for this game. And then we

849
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: can all go to like open the mural. We could

850
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Speaker 1: do a ribbon cutting because it's in an alley. Oh

851
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: my god, Okay, we go yeah, tell okay, so explain

852
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: your art to everyone, because I seriously I cybers talked

853
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: the out of you. Er. I'm just like going through

854
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: all of your posts on Instagram, like so cool. It's

855
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: me pursuing that edgier side of myself. I started making

856
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: things about poverty. I was doing that for a bit,

857
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: and then I started to feel like that was very

858
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: cliche but I mean, I know you guys have seen

859
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: what's been going on in the United States lately, so um,

860
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people struggling, and I think I was

861
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: in New York and I was just seeing so much

862
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: of that and I just wanted to capture some of it.

863
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Um and just I think, just keep busy, just keep working.

864
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: I think lately I've been making a lot of films.

865
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm working on a feature film right now. And cool.

866
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: I love these creative outlets though, because there's a part

867
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: of me that thinks that big brother Derek is probably

868
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. You know, a lot of my

869
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: friends who got out of the military really needed career

870
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: paths and other directions when they got out. And so

871
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: watching you paint Peyton's bedroom in this episode, I'm like,

872
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: of course, our brothers and artists they have this. Yeah,

873
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: that's right. I love that. It's a great outlet, great,

874
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: great for emotional um expression, just trying to find a

875
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: way to process. It's about yeah, yeah, And I think

876
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: that's what the character of Derek is like pushing in

877
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: your arc Because we have these little kids on our show,

878
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: like bad things keep happening to all of us. We

879
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: get shot at school. Parents die. We get dumped, you know,

880
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: like bad stuff key, but we get dumped in that category.

881
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: We get dumped the world spectrum, but none of us

882
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: are processing it until this like older Lewins comes along

883
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: and it's like all kids are nuts, Like you have

884
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: to do the work, do your work, and that's important. Well,

885
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: we talked about that actually, Earnest in one of our

886
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: last episodes, watching your performance and what real Derek offers

887
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: to Peyton. We've we've spoken a lot on this podcast

888
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: about how these kids go through these traumatic experiences. Nobody

889
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: sends them to therapy, nobody, nobody helps them to Hillary's

890
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: point process. And weirdly, you know, the grown ups who

891
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: were writing these storylines would would write a lot of jokes,

892
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Like Lucas says in the last episode to Peyton, you

893
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: know when you guys have a moment and Derek is,

894
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, has his wall up, Lucas goes, well, I

895
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: like the other Derek better, and it's like the other

896
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: Derek is literally a rapist. Let's not make jokes about this.

897
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: And and what's so cool is that, even though your

898
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: arc was not as long as we all would have liked,

899
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: you showed up and you grounded it in this way.

900
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: That really did say for the first time, you have

901
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: to deal with this, you have to face it. You

902
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: you as a character, like you know, even though you know,

903
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: Hillary was like, oh my god, I hated the boxing.

904
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I think I looked ridiculous, but that was it. It

905
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: was that moment. But you made her get in her body. Hilarious.

906
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: It was so bad. Kept trying, We just kept trying

907
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: to perfect the like punch punch, punching in the breakdown,

908
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh god. We like to ask a lot

909
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: of our friends who come on the show, like, where

910
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: do you think your character is today? M hmm. Definitely

911
00:54:53,040 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: not in the military my sense. Um, I don't know.

912
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: I immediately went to carpentry. Maybe it's because in the episode,

913
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: but just something I don't know. I get the vibe,

914
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: something that's very relaxing but also engaging. Right, yeah, I

915
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: love it. Okay, we're going to spin a wheel. Because

916
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Speaker 1: this is a high school oriented show, we like to

917
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Speaker 1: do superlatives most likely too, did you have superlatives at

918
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: your high school? I couldn't tell you in your yearbook?

919
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, here we go. Who's most likely to not

920
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: forget your birthday? Who so so Earnest. We do this

921
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: for a character on One Tree Hill, and we do

922
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: it for one of the cast members in real life. Okay, okay, Yeah,

923
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: it's tough because you weren't with us for super long,

924
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: so you didn't get to know all of us very well.

925
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: But you can take your best guests. Um, who is

926
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: it to not forget to remember? I guess to remember

927
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: your birthday? The person. That's the way of saying it.

928
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: That's seven am text. The character I would say, Peyton brother.

929
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: Um the actor, I would say, Sophia, Yeah, no, you

930
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: you're you're you seem like a very precise artist. She's organized.

931
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. We need to know what Ernest real birthday is.

932
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: What's your birthday? Is your birthdad? It's that's right, because

933
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: we're all in July. I remember now, Okay, here we

934
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: are all right. Happy birthday, brother, You're stuck with us forever.

935
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: We're going to get text messages. Hopefully we get to

936
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: see you in person soon, yes, and I hope so too. Yeah,

937
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to our artwork. Maybe I'll get

938
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Speaker 1: that tattooed. No pressure, right, literally, but a lifetime of

939
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: appreciation gets Lee earnest. So good to see you all.

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Speaker 1: I had a blast shooting those episodes. You guys are awesome. Seriously,

941
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Speaker 1: thanks Bud, We're happy to see you. Bye bye, I

942
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: love Why did they get to keep him? Like? Why

943
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: wasn't he at Peyton's wedding? Why wasn't the things? I

944
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: don't know? I know, Well, I'm straight glad we got

945
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: today in our in our parallel universe version of One

946
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, he stayed forever forever. Alright, guys, Next week,

947
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: next guys, Oh, next week we got season four episode nine,

948
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: some you give away. They all sound so spooky this season.

949
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, after every single one we read, I want

950
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: to go done, done, done, don't I don't know why?

951
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: Al Right, Well, let the dreaded too. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Bye bye bye, Hey, thanks for listening. Don't

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