1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to Seahawks Stories, teaking you behind the scenes 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: with your favorite Seahawks. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Set back to behind, Zorn, who's back to pass as 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 2: time looks for the left sideline, throws a bomb down there. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: He's got a man in front. 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 4: He makes to grab a travel at a thirty down 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 4: of the twenty. 8 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: They'll never get him. He scores. 9 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's have Seahawks powered by Seahawks dot Com and. 10 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 5: Zorn later in perfectly a rabel who goes in to 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 5: score on an eighty yard pass and run play. 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Raebel, 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn. 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Hey again, everybody, and welcome to Seahawks Stories. And with 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: the legend that he is Jim Zorn and yours truly, 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: and another legend is joining us today. And I always 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: like to preface with our guests. And it's Kurt Warner today, 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: the great running back out of Penn State, and of 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: course with the Seahawks, and Kurt, I just you and 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: I have known each other since you came on board 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: many many years ago. I just wanted to prove to 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: you that I actually he had a highlight that's why 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: we played that play. 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: Not a problem, sir. 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm sure we can find up. I'm sure we can 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 4: find a few more places. 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 6: Well, you better believe you better believe we can. 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 5: He is He tells everybody that I'm the legend, But 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: he is the legend, and he's actually current, you know, 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 5: I mean everybody knows you. 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, he is, he is very very current. We 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 6: are Kurt, You and I are definitely has beens. 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, you know what I say about 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: a number of people, I say, hey, you know what 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: you heard the Clint Eastwood thing when you go, he's 36 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 4: a legend in his own mind. 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 7: How are you, my friend? How's life? 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: How you just get to give us a quick round 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: up on what's up? You're in Vancouver, Washington. You've been 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: You've been up here all these years. You came out 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: here to play, and you've stayed out here, That is correct. 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: I love the Great Northwest. 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: Uh, not as much when we are in the November 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: through large French, but I definitely enjoyed the summertime and 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: the long days. 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: So yes, Great Northwest. 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 6: I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: Now you have tell us about your family, because I 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: think people, you know, maybe a lot of people know 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: about your family. 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 6: But tell us, I. 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: Know you've married and married to a beautiful young woman, 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 5: and you guys are growing old together. 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: We are thirty plus years yea, and I you know 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: what she is. She's a wonderful person, wonderful wife. I 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: love her dearly, and you know it's we've had our challenges. 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm surprised she's still with me at times, but we've 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: had our challenges. We've got a couple of guys with autism, 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: Austin and Christian Warner. We've got an older son body 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: name of Jonathan Warner, who is a Washington State trooper. 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: We're very proud of him. Oh good, Uh yeah, he's. 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: A law law enforcement officer. And then we have a 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 4: daughter who will be graduating from high school this year. 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 6: What high school is that? 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: Kurt Cammus High Schoolmas High School. 66 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: Okay, So tell us what you're doing at Camus High 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: School because I know you're you've been involved there as well. 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: You know what, I was a coach theres years ago. 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 6: You're not're not involved anymore. 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm not a coach. 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: I realized that I'm just not a coach it's better 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: for me to just kind of watch. 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 7: Now, tell me about that and advise accordingly. 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: But to those who are better at it. 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 7: Tell me about that. 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Because I'm sitting across from a guy that you played 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: with and a guy who was our teammate and who 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: became a lifelong coach. 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 7: What is it? What does it take to be a coach? 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: Uh? Communication skills? Patience? Patience? 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 7: Okay, so maybe that's so much. 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: No, no, what are you doing? 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: Why did you go that the ball of the other. 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 6: Arm, not this on the arm? 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: Hey, look, hey, don't give me that book trouble. 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 6: I heard that before. 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 7: Yeah you heard. 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, don't tell me how enough to 89 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: the water is? Just get the ship in, you know. 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: That kind of stuff that I go off on that 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: kind of stuff and then looking at me like where 92 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: did you get that from the street? 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? 94 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, So you coach running backs there 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: and you wanted to how why did you get involved 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 5: in it in the beginning? 97 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: You know what, that's a good question. Sometimes you have 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: an itch and you need to scratch it. 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: And that's what happened, and we got ahold of the 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 4: high school coach got by the name of John eagle, 101 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: and we started having some conversations and one thing kind 102 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: of led. 103 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: To another and I'm like, yeah, I'll get out here 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: to try this. I volunteered. I was, you know, I 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: was doing it up. But it was fun. 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 4: I don't get me wrong, But it's just you have 107 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: to coach in order to find out whether or not 108 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: you want to continue to coach. So I had, you know, 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: an opportunity to do that. 110 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: I did it. 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: I scratched and the itch and uh and I'm like, 112 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: you know what, I'll just. 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: Watch were you were relieved after it was over. 114 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: Not really I was, you know, I was okay with 115 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: it one way or the other. Uh. It's it's it's 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: very rewarding when when you're winning, and it's not as 117 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 4: much rewarding when you're losing. 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: But uh, it takes a lot of time. You don't 119 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: realize how much time coaching takes up because I mean, 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: you got you know, I mean, you're you're there, man. 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: So it's it's a commitment. It's you know, it's easy 122 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: to kind of roll throw the ball. 123 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: Out there and go run your plays and then go 124 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: home later on that day let the coaches kind of 125 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: clean up stuff. 126 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: But uh, No, it's it's. 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 5: Got to figure you have had time, yep, and you 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: have to figure out how to get that young man 129 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: to carry the ball in the correct arm as he's 130 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: going around there after, right up the middle. And you 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: have to figure that out after, you know, as you 132 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: go home. How come he come. 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: Do it as you go home? 134 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then it's gotta and you have to correct 136 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: them nicely. You can't just I exaggerated it obviously quite 137 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: a bit. But no, I mean you just have to 138 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: sit and talk about it and ask, you know, hey, 139 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: s well did you see why did you do that? 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: And here's some advice and uh and maybe perhaps. 141 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: We will try not to We'll give you some advice. 142 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: It may help. I don't know. 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 5: I told Steve I told Raves a couple of weeks 144 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: ago about handing. We were talking about you, and we 145 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: were talking about how, uh, you know when you came 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: into Seattle as the as the number one pick uh 147 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: for Seattle that particularly you're in nineteen eighty three, and 148 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: I was telling him during the very first handoff, Well, 149 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: he reminded me and I didn't want to say it, 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: but you know that you went that you went around 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: the right the left side about sixty some yards, and 152 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: I expressed to him, you were the first guy that 153 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: I've ever handed the ball off to that I could 154 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: just feel the acceleration and it was so fun because 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: it was just this surge once you got the football. 156 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: It was like, I don't know what it was, but 157 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: I hadn't experienced that all through high school, college or 158 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: even in the NFL, just that immediate acceleration, and. 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 6: I loved it. 160 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: I thought you took a lot of pride in your game. 161 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 5: I loved it that you even wanted to run routes 162 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: and catch the ball. You had a lot of catches 163 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: and past receiving yards as well as running yards. 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, See man, I greatly appreciate it. 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that. And you know I'll give you. 166 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: I'll give you some coaching tips from from coach Knox Good. 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: And he would say to me, Kurt, Hey, number one, 168 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: the ball ain't heavy. 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: The ball ain't heavy. 170 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: What's the first thing. Secondly, run with the ain't run 171 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: with the ain't and then run the daylight. Those were 172 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: my three things that he told me to do, and 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: that's what I did. You know, one thing about Chuck 174 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: Knox's offense is that he would allow me to get 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: The thinking was, we'll attack the point of attack, and 176 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: then once we get to that point of attack, then 177 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: I can I have the option to go straight, I 178 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: have the. 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Option to go left, or I have the option to 180 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: go right. 181 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: So I can pretty much let the flow of the 182 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: game and see the flow of the game as I 183 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: had the football in my arms. After you know, I 184 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: took I took possession of it. I was able to 185 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: kind of be creative and see things accordingly and then make. 186 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: My decisions based on that. And uh, you know it's 187 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: called you know, run when you ain't. 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: That's exactly what you're doing what they ain't. And you're 189 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: trying to get that four yards per carry because that's 190 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: that's all you're going to get in the NFL. If 191 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: you're lucky and you you learn to run between the 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: trenches and the trenches as well. So and I like 193 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: running in the trenches. It's crazy in there, man, it's 194 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: chaotic in thosees. 195 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: But I it was a thrill. 196 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: Being able to to to get in there and mix 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: it up. 198 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. 199 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: Kurt, where did you get those skills? Where they learned 200 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: at an early age. Did they come to you through 201 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: work at Penn State? Was it just something that came 202 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: naturally to you. 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: I think it was a combination of pretty much all 204 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: of the things that you're talking about. But more importantly, 205 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: I just think it's a god given ability. And I 206 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: had a god given ability to get to maneuver myself 207 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: in such a way that I could, you know, I 208 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: could get out of a jam, I mean, and then 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: with only a little bit of room, I could, you know, 210 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: manipulate things with my eyes and then kind of make 211 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: a quick decision to get up the field or get 212 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: to the outside or whatever it was. So I had 213 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: some freedom because you can't, you know, you can't look like, 214 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: if you're a quarterback, you can't just look to one 215 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: area and throw the football right because they're gonna they're 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: gonna see that, and they're gonna be looking at what 217 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: you're doing, and they're gonna be. 218 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Sitting there with a pick six. 219 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: So football is a game where, uh, you number one, 220 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: you got to learn to playbook right. Number two, Uh, 221 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: you've got to be educated enough to know what your 222 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: adjustments are going to how they're going to occur. And 223 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: then number three, the ball is snapped, and then once 224 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: the ball is snap, then you've got to figure out 225 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: a whole different game because it changes immensely. 226 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: And that's what I loved about the game of football 227 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: is that it was. 228 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: Constantly changing, constantly evolving from one play to the other, 229 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: and you just never knew, you never knew what you 230 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: were going to get until roughly the game is over. 231 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: Well, I got to hand off to you. I got 232 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 5: to hand off to this guy and see this firsthand 233 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: what he's what he's talking about. And I think from 234 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: my point of view, it was getting in there and 235 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 5: kind of attacking that point of attack as he began 236 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 5: with and then his jump cut or his his lateral 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 5: cut left or right was pretty amazing and it was sudden. 238 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: And I always felt like Kurt found space, you know, 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: he found yes, he found where the space was, and 240 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: then he just he could lunge. He could lunge through it. 241 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 5: You better be as a defensive player, you better be 242 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 5: on it quick because that lunge was acceleration. 243 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 6: You know, and you know it was it was amazing 244 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 6: to take. 245 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: You baked the guys, I mean, you baked the guy 246 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: in a certain way because you know, the point of 247 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: attack is where they're going to be, and then you 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: try to get out of there. 249 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: You pull a man and then you move to the 250 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: right or the left. 251 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: And that may be the difference between a three yard 252 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: or five yard game versus a two yard game. So 253 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: in football, it's it's a game of inches, right, Kurt, literally. 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 5: Is Kurt, I did I hand you the ball on 255 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: the goal line when you got injured? Did I hand Uh? 256 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: No? 257 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: I think it was a pitch. It was a pitch 258 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: to the right hand five. 259 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 6: That's right. It was to the right. 260 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: When we went we went to the left. It was 261 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: the pitch to the left. 262 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: I didn't get in and we went pitch to the right, 263 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: and then that's when I, you know, had what's. 264 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: Very interesting, you know he Kurt tore his uh uh 265 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 5: answer Cruscian legay and. 266 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 6: He wasn't hit right. 267 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: It was just it was a cut, right and uh 268 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 5: just think of the pressure that must have been on 269 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 5: that to make that cut, trying to get into the 270 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: end zone, and he just had he went down. Joy 271 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 5: told me this, Kurt, My wife Joy that she's the 272 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 5: one that went and saw you in the hospital, or 273 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: one of the people that saw you in the hospital, 274 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: and she just told me today because I told her 275 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 5: you were going to be on our show. She said, 276 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 5: you know, I got to feed him in the hospital 277 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 5: because you were out of it. Anna wasn't there and 278 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: when and the food came, so she fed, she spoon 279 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: fed you. 280 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 6: In the hospital. I'll let her know that you really 281 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: appreciated that. 282 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: I appreciated it. 283 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Imagine, I remember that play Pete Gross was our play 284 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: by play guy. Obviously I had retired what two years before, 285 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: so before the eighty two seasons, so a year before 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: you got there, Kurt, and I just I remember this. 287 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: This was eighty four, right, is that one. 288 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 7: Your injury was. 289 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: Brown? 290 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just remember seeing that and just watching 291 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: you go down untouched and my heart just sank. And 292 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, obviously you were done for that season, but 293 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: you worked hard and you came back. 294 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 7: It was it was. You had a remarkable. 295 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Career, albeit maybe not as long as a lot of 296 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: people would have liked, maybe not as long as you 297 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: would have wanted it to be, Uh, but you had 298 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: a remarkable career, and you left such a. 299 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 7: Mark on this franchise. 300 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: Ring of honor member UH Pro Bowler, All Pro UH 301 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: and and the thing I guess that that I've. 302 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: Always appreciated C. 303 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Dub Is is when you come back and we get 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: to see you on the sidelines, when when there's an 305 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: event or or an alumni gathering or something. 306 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 7: You you haven't changed. 307 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you've you've asked, You've gotten older, your hair's 308 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: a little grayer, you're more mature in that you've had 309 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: a family and raised but you're still that same great 310 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: young guy that came in here from Penn State as 311 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: a rookie. And I've always appreciated that of you. My 312 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: wife Sharon says the same things. She said, Kurt doesn't 313 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: seem to change. He just seems to be that great, upbeat, 314 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: positive person all this time. 315 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I try to You 316 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: know what, in life. 317 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: It's it's it's how you deal with with challenges. 318 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: It's how you deal with life. I mean, I've obviously. 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: Had my fair share issues and challenges, but we're just 320 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: thankful to the Good Lord that we have an opportunity 321 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: to get through another day and be thankful for what 322 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: we have and who's in our lives. 323 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's been a good ride. I don't 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: have any complaints. 325 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 7: Let me tell one minute. 326 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: Go ahead, no, I said, if I have many complaints, 327 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: my wife usually doesn't want to hear it. 328 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, welcome to Welcome to the club of being married 329 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: a long time. Now, one more quick, Kurt Warner story about. 330 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 7: Your effect on people. 331 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: We're in Arizona for the Super Bowl, so that it 332 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: would have been February twenty fifteen, the one that eventually 333 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: we lost, unfortunately to the Patriots. 334 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 7: At the end of the game. 335 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: I know you were there, right, yes, And there was 336 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: a group of us, and I don't remember if it 337 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: was Sunday morning before the game, and or there was 338 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: there were a number of events that we were all 339 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: taking part of, and I was hosting and m seeing 340 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: a lot of those events. But I remember that Chuck 341 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: was there, and Shirley was there, Zee was there, Dave 342 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Craig was there, and I remember Chuck was in a wheelchairs. 343 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: I remember he was a difficult time getting around, and 344 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: by that time, I think his memory had started to 345 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: really lapse, and so all of us would kind of 346 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: we all sort of walked up to him and shook 347 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: his hand and and or gave him a little hug, 348 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: and he smiled, and only when he saw you, did 349 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: his face light up. It was amazing the effect he 350 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: knew you there was. You know a lot of us 351 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: were kind of ancillary to his coaching career, but you 352 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: were that guy that just boom lit him up in 353 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: a heartbeat. And I always thought that that was I 354 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: think I thought it was great for you to see that, 355 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: but I thought it was terrific for coach to have 356 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: that moment. 357 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: Do you want to know what I said to him? Yes, okay, okay, dog. 358 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 6: Down boy, Down down boy. 359 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: I didn't say that, okay, But what I did say 360 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: to him was I said, hey, coach, the ball ain't heavy, 361 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: the ball ain't. 362 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 7: Ain't that great? Isn't that great? 363 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 5: And you know he at the end, when he was 364 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: in his wheelchair, his repeat line all the time was, Hey, hey, hey, 365 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: we're going to have to play the handward Dell. 366 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 6: That's what you got to play, the handword del I 367 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 6: remember that day. 368 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: We actually took him up in his wheelchair into that bus, 369 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 5: that double decker bus because they have a bunch of Seahawks, 370 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 5: and he signed he signed the ring of honor up 371 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: up there. Actually he signed the bus somewhere I know, 372 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: but it was one of the last autographs that he 373 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 5: had ever that he had ever saw, and it was 374 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: at that game in twenty fifteen. 375 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: There's a reason why, Gee, you were the Were you 376 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: the first or the second? You were the first one 377 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: in to the Ring of honors, Steve, Steve was Steve 378 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: was the first. So there's a reason why you and 379 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: Kurt and Chuck are in there because of the history 380 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: of this franchise and what you guys have all meant 381 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: to the franchise, along with all the other guys out there, 382 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Dave Brown and Jake and Kaz, Pete and Pete, Mike 383 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: Holm and Sean at Hasselbeck. Yeah, when you think back, 384 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: Kurt over your time here, what are you what are 385 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: your thoughts about being a Seahawks. 386 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a that's a darn good question, you know 387 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: what it's. 388 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: I think it was a pride of being able to 389 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: to come in my rookie year, knowing that the Seahawks 390 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: had some challenges prior to that, and being a part 391 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: of a change that really took that the whole organization 392 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: in a completely different arena, having Coach Knox there, having 393 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: guys like Ken Easiley there, Jacob Green, Jim Zorn, Steve 394 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: large and having guys who really are talented. We just 395 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: needed to make some adjustments here and there, and Coach 396 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: Knox was able to do that and then being able 397 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: to be a part of that. 398 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: You know, when you're you're a rookie. 399 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: As you know, when you're a rookie, you gotta do 400 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: the donut thing, and you got to bring the food in, 401 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: get a carry bags and all the other stuff. And 402 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: I remember Dave Brown, he had me to stand up. 403 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: We're in a team meeting and he asked me to 404 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: give a donut report. And I'm like, really, and I'll 405 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: tell you something. I was a rookie. They called me 406 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: a rookie, but I did not like being called a 407 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 4: rookie or treated like a rookie. But it was probably 408 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: the best thing that could have ever happened to me 409 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: to me because it allowed me to say, Okay, you're 410 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: in the NFL. This is a different ballgame. So you 411 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: know you gotta wait your wait your time, get in line, 412 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: do what you're supposed to do. 413 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: Hey, Kurt, did you ever get did you ever get 414 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: taped to the goal post at Chenia? 415 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: No? 416 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: I did not see man. I did not get taped 417 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 4: to the goal post that was that that. 418 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 6: Was a rookie. It's a rookie deal. That was a 419 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 6: high round draft choice. 420 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 4: I know we had one of the linemen that got 421 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: taped to the gold cost, but it wasn't It wasn't me. 422 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: I had to get a conceit pretty much every day, 423 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: you know. But I did not like it at all. 424 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: I was just like, I hate, I don't like you 425 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 4: don't won't use the word hate. 426 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: But I'm like, I don't like anybody on this team. 427 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: My fellow rookies other than my fellow rookies, because you 428 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: you you know you those are the guys that you 429 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: hang around with because you're a rookie. 430 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with being a rookie. 431 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: You just learn, you know, what it takes to play 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL and what you need to do and 433 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: how you need to prepare. 434 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: So it was a great experience. 435 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Although looking back on it, it was a great experience, 436 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: but when I was going through it, I was I 437 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: didn't think it was a great experience. 438 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 5: Well, you had you had so many accolades at Penn State. 439 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: You know, now you you a lot of guys like yourself. 440 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 5: You think that you know it's gonna be different when 441 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 5: you get to the NFL, and it really is. I 442 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: mean all of that, it is all of that rookie 443 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: uh and we we didn't do a lot of hazing. 444 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: The hazing was singing a song. But you didn't have 445 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: to go through any kind of big traumatic things. Donuts 446 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 5: and and singing maybe, but uh and I don't think 447 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 5: it was ever it was ever monitored by by Chuck 448 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: or anything like that. 449 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: We just there were no physical threats. There was. 450 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 4: It wasn't that, it wasn't that type of It was 451 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: just yeah, where you're at, where you're at on the 452 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: pecking order, and that's really what it comes down to. 453 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: And then that's just how it works. That's your tradition 454 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: of what we do. When you've lived with it, the 455 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: next year, you're your second year guy and you kind 456 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: of go, okay, rookies, you gotta you. 457 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: Gotta do what you're gonna don't don't complain, just go 458 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: there and do it. 459 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: Hey, Kurt, Kurt Chuck used to always say, uh, we 460 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 5: gotta you know, if we're gonna win, we got to 461 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: carry them ball forty times forty times and we win. 462 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 6: And he would love to call the run. 463 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 5: How what was the what what game did you carry 464 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: the ball the most in your career that you had 465 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: the most carries? 466 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 6: And how many were they? 467 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: Kansas City? 468 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: We went to Kansas City and played that year and 469 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: then I don't know if it was my first year 470 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 4: or whatever, or third year or fourth year or whatever 471 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 4: it was, but it was a Kansas City game and 472 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 4: I had a couple hundred yards, carried it thirty sometimes 473 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: and it was a high scoring game. 474 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: It was a very high scoring game. 475 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 6: So yeah, well that's good. Well that's a lot of carries. 476 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a lot of carries that day and 477 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: we were able to win. So that was a combination 478 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: of a lot of different things. 479 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: I got you talk about now in the years past, 480 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: you you had a car business. You're six In fact, 481 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: you when you were mentioning coaches. I digress for a second, 482 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: and knowing what your business background was, you've become a 483 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: very successful businessman down in Vancouver and stayed in the area. 484 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you'd have been better suited to be a GM 485 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: or the president of an organization as opposed. 486 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 7: To be coaching. 487 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there's still long hours. 488 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: There are still long hours, and you don't know what 489 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: you don't know you can reflect on it, and but 490 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm okay with where I'm at and what I've done, 491 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: and I'm still a long ways from from hanging up 492 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: the helmet or whatever you want to call it, the 493 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: suit or the bags or whatever, because it's just there's 494 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: there's there's there's other things to do and I continue 495 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: to move forward. 496 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: What are you working on today? What do you work at? 497 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: Insurance? 498 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: I've been in the insurance industry for a number of years. Okay, 499 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 4: that's kind of That's kind of where I've been in 500 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: the auto industry, the insurance industry, and. 501 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at right now. 502 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: So it doesn't surprise me just because you have to 503 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: deal with people you uh dealing with you. You you're 504 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 5: straight shooter, straight up, and people get the truth when 505 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: they when they talk to you. You don't have a 506 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 5: lot of fluff going on, are going hey, hey check out. 507 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: I try not do. 508 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: But you know, there's always a point where you got 509 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: to sell, and you got to you got to present 510 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: the product accordingly, and you got to do everything you 511 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: need to do to make sure that you put your 512 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: best foot forward. 513 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: And that's really what it comes down to. 514 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: Every play you got to put your best foot forward 515 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: when you're in life in general. 516 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: You got to put your best foot forward pretty much 517 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: every day, no matter what. 518 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: There was a time, and it might have been your 519 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: third year, fourth year, something like that, we talk about 520 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: what what Kurt has done in the years after football. 521 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: I always thought that you might get into broadcasting, because 522 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: Kurt and I worked on a thing every week and 523 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: we tape it over at the Seahawks Society and we 524 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: put it together and it would be kind of the 525 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner Scouting Report, I believe, wasn't it something like that? Yeah, yep, yeah, 526 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: And we just throw some generalities out there. 527 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: And I took a lot a lot of grief on 528 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: that one. 529 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: Man, I did. 530 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 6: Great, you did great on will you announced it? And 531 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 6: he was playing it was. 532 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: It was basically him telling us the guys who we 533 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: were going to play and what their strengths were and 534 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: all the hell. And we just sketch out some stuff 535 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: and then CURTA just pick up the microphone in one 536 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: of those little cubby hole meeting rooms at the old 537 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: facility and he just go and he was he was great. 538 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: And I always thought, man, this is this is going 539 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: to be a guy that if I'm still around, you know, 540 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: fifteen years from now in broadcasting, maybe I'll get a 541 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: chance to work with him in broadcasting. 542 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 7: And he just thank you. 543 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: Very much, Steve. I appreciate that I did great. 544 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 7: You did great. 545 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. 546 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 6: Did any of those things ever come true? 547 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 7: The broadcasting, no, the. 548 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: Oh well no, he was right when he was scouting 549 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: the guys, when he scouted the team behind to play. 550 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: You know, hey, these guys are blah blah blah, and 551 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: they're this and that, and these guys are over here. 552 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 7: And while I'm. 553 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: Thinking about it, I know we got one minute with you, 554 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: Kurt before we got to let you go. As I 555 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: walked into this studio now the studio area for podcasts 556 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in renting the 557 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: Seahawks facility, well said, thank you, Jim, thank you. There 558 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: is There are three pictures in a row just down 559 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: this hallway. One of them is z Man under center, 560 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: one of them is Largent making a catch, and one 561 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: of them is Kurt Warner dodging a Miami dolphin. And 562 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: it had to be the eighty three game. And that 563 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: game propelled you guys to the AFC Championship against the Raiders, 564 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: which didn't work out so well. But the one that 565 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: game two touchdowns, Jim, is that you remember? Yeah, what 566 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: a game that was, Kurt? What do you remember about 567 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: that day? 568 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: All I know is that we were the underdog. 569 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: We weren't even we didn't belong on the field with 570 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: the Dolphins at that particular time. And uh, I don't 571 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: think anybody ever thought we were going to win, But 572 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 4: I honestly believe that in that locker room, we were like, 573 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: you know what, we're taking these guys down. 574 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: They're going down today. 575 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 5: Period. Yeah, and that's what you scored twice in that game. 576 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people, a lot of people remember, Uh, 577 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: Dave played that game and he threw a really great 578 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: pass to Steve, but Kurt pounded the ball for two touchdowns. 579 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't The last one was the winning score. I 580 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: think toward the end, right near the end of the game, that. 581 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: You have the pitch to the outside, to the outside 582 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: able to get in. 583 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 5: Is that amazing how guys can remember. You know, he 584 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: remembered when he got injured what play it was. He 585 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 5: remembered the first play that that I got to hand. 586 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 5: I remember it. I can still remember in Kansas City 587 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: his first game, and then the Miami game. Oh it's 588 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: a pitch to the outside steam. 589 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 590 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 7: It was. Well. 591 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: When you when you know, as we talked about before, 592 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: when you have you know a number of highlights, you 593 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: know there you can remember those things, and Kurt had, 594 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: as you did, a career filled with those kind of highlights. 595 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: And I also remember that in the locker room after 596 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: the game, wasn't it Dave Brown. 597 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 7: Chuck the football? 598 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he suddenly became a human I mean he 599 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: was always a human being, but he suddenly became that 600 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: guy that you know so much appreciated what you guys 601 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: did for him that, as you said, Kurt, nobody expected 602 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: you to be there. 603 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 604 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: I remember that Chuck broke down when when he was 605 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: handed the football and I was like wow, and we. 606 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: All started scoring it. 607 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah U. 608 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: And that was actually that was pretty pretty darn good. 609 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: That was one of those moments you domber. 610 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh. 611 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, I know you have to run. You're 612 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: a very important man, way more important than Jim and 613 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: I who were just sitting around here eating oatmeal and 614 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: gumming some sort of solid foods at this point, at 615 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: this point in our lives, we. 616 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 7: Have wanted to get you on. 617 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Here since the first day that they gave us this opportunity. 618 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: And they're still rethinking, by the way, the Seahawks about 619 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: giving us this chance, but we. 620 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 7: Needed to have you on here. 621 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, Thank you, buddy for doing this, and I 622 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: hope we can call on you again and we can 623 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: talk about the second half of your career and all 624 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: that is Seahawks. 625 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 7: Okay, but thank you much time. 626 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 5: Okay, later, Hey, check us out to you got to 627 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 5: go back and you your friends are on as well 628 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: in past shows. So you got to go to the 629 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: Seahawks website or wherever you can find our podcast and 630 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 5: listen to some of your teammates tell some really cool 631 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: stories that might you might remember a few others as 632 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 5: you listen. 633 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 7: And please give give an our best and the kids. 634 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: Sure, thanks, thanks you guys. I appreciate Kurt. Okay, guys, 635 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: see you later. 636 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 7: Again. We've known this guy since he was a youngster, 637 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 7: just a. 638 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: Kid, and he was the closest thing to Barry Sanders 639 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: I've ever seen round the football and what a great 640 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: what a great guy. He was with the Seahawks organization. Zee, Yes, 641 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: we fooled him again. Nice job, partner. We will do 642 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: it again next time, all. 643 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 6: Right, can't wait. We got some surprises in store in the. 644 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: Future anytime, somebody, some players and non players. That's right, 645 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: There are surprises and we will have them all for 646 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: you here on Seahawks Stories. Everybody, thanks for listening in. 647 00:31:48,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next time. Go Hawks.